Man did NOT Evolve from Apes
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2024
- Catechism: Man did NOT Evolve from Apes - Humans did not evolve from apes: arguments.
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"Humans didn't evolve from apes but we are heading that way" Hieromonk Arsenie Boca
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@@holyresurrectionofchrist It seems that you are ignorant of science
THE IMPASSE OF “ORTHODOX” EVOLUTIONISM
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@@holyresurrectionofchrist It seems that the EVIDENCE OF A HOLY STIGMATA FOR THE ORTHODOX AND CATHOLIC RELIGIONS HAVE BEEN MORE THAT EXTRAORDINARY FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD OF INNOVATIONAYRY SYSTEMS AND SCIENTIFIC PROGRESS.
MEANWHILE YOU ARE MERELY LEFT OUT.
Read what I have sent you before you judge@@lindaglendenning3896
Christ is the Truth! Glory to God.
Amen ❤❤❤
I'm a classical composer and your video inspired me to compose a piece for three instruments representing the Trinity as explained. Glory to God!
I would be happy to listen to your music. God bless.
@@satvrne Thank you, brother. I'm currently working on a choir cycle of Orthodox liturgical prayers sang in Church Slavonic. I hope to get them performed this year. I'll share a link here if I remember to. I'll get to this idea here next. God bless.
@@0live0wire0 Thanks for your answer! May the Holy Spirit inspire your works. God bless.
Wow. This was like washing a very dirty dish. I feel I'm able to pray again. Thanks.
Glory To God For All Things!
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Amazing! Great work!
We share quite a bit of DNA with bananas too, those that hold to evolution over scripture are bananas.
living things came from the first cell
Humans and chimpanzees have the same DNA in proportion to 98.7%, this is a fact regardless of what is written in the bible, what some people want to believe or whatever the people of the planet imagine. In another way, man is not descended from monkeys, but man and today's monkeys have a common ancestor, it is completely different from the idea that the religious manipulators want to induce that man is descended from monkeys.
Wake up to reality!
We have common ancestors with bananas. All life came from a single source .
It’s a beautiful miracle
The childish story of God waving a magic wand and just’ poofing ‘ people into existence is just that .. childish .. for children
Time to put away childish things
Especially need to stop being lying and being wrong in the name of Christ and bringing dishonor to his name all because you’re too lazy and arrogant to actually do any honest research
The Lord is an architect. He made the universe using wisdom .. not magic
@@keenanmiller6231 you are also being dishonest and arrogant, who are you to say that God used magic to create humans? We do not know how God created us, we just know that he did. You made a strawman out of us, you can't use the fairy tale analogy because we don't believe in magic either.
@@player1playforfun So you agree if God wanted to use evolution to bring about life he could have done that ?
Glad you agree 😀
Or maybe you have a very definite idea of how God did it . Maybe You think you know exactly how God did it?
I certainly hope you’re not guilty of the exact same thing you’re accusing me of of thinking you know something
Thanku 🙏🏽I also felt the music was too loud for the narrative 🙏🏽 and as the narrative was so short and skillfully shared , that it didn’t even need any music ?
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Amazing video! I agree that the way Genesis is structured does not allow for the idea of evolution, and to do so would be to skew the text tremendously. This is the issue of many people who try to make Christianity fit the evolutionist mould, instead of recognizing that the evolutionary theory is in itself just that - a theory.
We should never mold the theology into the frames of the worldly speculation
@@borjan978 aww yes because scientific theories that describe how the world works is all just speculation compare to theology....
@vedrane0 "Evolutionary theory is in itself just that-a theory" tell mean you don't know what a scientific theory is without telling me
@@DeathhellandthegraveIf evolution is somehow true, then God still has to be the origin of it. In any case, evolution being true doesnt disprove the existence of Jesus Christ, a fact attested by most modern (atheist) scholars.
Anyway, evolution is still only a theory.
Thank you for this video! May I know the name of the music used? :)
It's byzantine chanting from the Athonite monks. It's available online as a free content
This is an interesting video, but if I may be nitpicky, can you turn down the music in the background? I enjoy Orthodox chant, believe me, but it was loud enough that it almost felt like it was competing with the narration. It became a distraction. I also wonder, is it appropriate to use chant like this as background music? I am not trying to be combative, so please forgive me if I've cause any offense.
No worries. I'll make sure that we lower the music next time
@@holyresurrectionofchrist thank you. I found your video worthwhile, I appreciate the effort you put into this!
That’s so beautifully explained. Very needed for some of us to hear.
What was explained? I was expecting the video to approach the data supporting evolution and discuss its potential deficiencies or shortcomings, but instead it avoided data completely. This is not an explanation, it’s a tactical evasion.
What evolution? It's a theory. God did NOT created death and evolution is cycle of death. @@paulallenscards
That’s expecting an explanation within a scientific paradigm. That is not necessary.
If you are not an Orthodox Christian you may believe whatever you want. If you are, this is what we believe to be the truth: God did not create man through death.
We do not espouse a ‘scientific’ worldview, nor an anthropocentric one. Christ is the scale and framework of everything @@paulallenscards
@@holyresurrectionofchrist if a person fails to accept the theory of gravity, this will not cause him to float off into the ether. In the same way, your failure to accept the theory of evolution has no bearing on the veracity of its arguments.
Why would the theology conform to the "Procrustean bed" of theoretical science?
If you are not an Orthodox Christian, you can believe anything you want, but if you are Orthodox, then how can you believe that God created death? Evolution is an endless maze of self-recycling death.@@paulallenscards
it's very interesting how they say we evolved from apes, because while we DO possess a lot of physical similarities to the animals of the ape family, we are still so different mentally, we know both good and evil, we have morality, we've never stuck to one way of living, we have developed the ability to conquer all sorts of beasts through various methods. I was once a bit of a christian evolutionist, believing that perhaps God doesn't look anything like us, kinda like how biblical accurate angels don't actually look like humans, but for us to be so incredibly distinct from every other creature in this world, to be the only living kind to know good and evil, to have this ability to learn and adapt that absolutely NO other creature has ever fathomed in the millions of years, it makes me think otherwise. None the less, my faith in God shall never be shook, because even if the big bang did happen, guess what, who created the big bang? The lord. ❤
Man are NOT animal like, animals are human like
And how can you assume that no other species on Earth or any of the countless world orbiting distant stars in the past, present or future won't develop like we have? I say this since it is a near certain fact humans undeniably have living relatives and a fossil record that shows relation to extinct hominids who ultimately diverged from a common ancestor we would recognize today as an animal. This need to be special is merely a psychological urge. Elephants mourn, whales and dolphins develop hunting traditions and language, chimpanzees wage war. The distinction is that our species adapted to heavily rely on a highly developed nervous system that elevates our behaviors into more complex functions that are already expressed in other species. Evolution is the nail that destroys specifically the Abrahamic religions as it identifies we are not distinctly made for a purpose; and that for millions of years prior to any supposed fall creatures lived and died on our planet; not because of some allegory about good and evil but because it is simply the nature of the universe, we live in. The effort to deny centuries of scientific progress is only persuasive to those who either willingly ignore the evidence or don't grasp concepts beyond 6th grade biology.
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@@Deathhellandthegrave and live a life of pure misery worshiping loli girls and never amount to anything in life? No thanks Clayton, I'll pass. :)
@@grandfathernurgle2840 we deny the way those fossils are dated, we believe that it is unjustifiable to say that some species lived millions of years in the past.
The only thing to take issue with is the 8 billion figure which seems to be as whole cloth fictitious as the TE(p)NSSSBMGD&GF (Theorum of Evolution by (probably) Natural Selection, Sexual Selection, Biased Mutation, Genetic Drift, and Gene Flow).
O boy you are denying a lot of fields of science
@@miguelatkinson only the fields that are obvious lies. 😃
May I suggest a video on this topic in light of St Athanasius' "On The Incarnation"?
I note several points that may on face value appear to leave room for some elements of "theistic evolution" yet I suspect they don't and that had he been aware of this controversy he may have clarified. Not wishing to make assumptions, I would appreciate a discussion of what he probably meant instead.
Specifically...
Ch1, pt3 - second half from "For God is good." until "remain in a state of death and corruption." containing:
"upon men who, as animals, were essentially impermament,"; and "But if they went astray and became vile, throwing away their birthright of beauty, then they would come under the natural law of death and live no longer in paradise, but, dying outside it, continue in death and corruption."
Ch1, pt4 - all but the introductory part, begining "For God had made man...."
Ch1, pt5 - begining from "This, then, was the plight of men." until "the penalty of which God had forewarned them for transgressing the commandment."
God willing we'll make one. He is a great saint
@@holyresurrectionofchrist Thank you, I really appreciate it brother, and thank you for your videos.
Holy Father St. Athanasius please pray for our illumination with the truth of God, that we do not fall into worldly delusions or heresies.
Hi! What is the name of this chant? It is so beautiful ☦️
Psalm 135, “Give thanks to the Lord for He is good”
@@holyresurrectionofchrist I couldn't find the exact one, do you have a link for it?
I only have it on my private library. I am looking to find a way to share it with everyone for free. Hope very soon@@typicalpurpleshorts
Okay, no problem!@@holyresurrectionofchrist
Hello! Why in orthodox icons of creation the sun and moon are depicted with faces as they are not living beings?
In God everything is alive. He holds everything alive, including the non biological creation. Because we are fallen we see death In everything
Amen
I usually separate the history of pre-fallen world to that of the post-fallen world.
Moxie dose choose she is my dog friend. A rare case, but she dose act out of genuine love at times. I will agree she can be controlled by bacon, but then again so can I be.
Hmm 🤔 I like that there are arguments but I don’t think they rule out evolution. To me it is irrelevant though. It is not a relevant fact for my understanding to accept Christ, it is also not something that I would try and defend or fight for because it is not my religion.
So the Big Bang theory .How does something come from nothing what was before and how did it come to be. Without God there is nothing ☦️☦️☦️
@@petergunn9149 The big bang theory was produced by a Catholic priest and does not state that something came from nothing. It rather states that the beginning of the universe came from a large explosion. Which is compatible with the story of creation.
@@danielpg3303 explosion of what and where or who came up with this in the Catholic church
@@danielpg3303 ok I googled it👌 So some random priest that has a PhD invents thus idea and it spreads🤔 This is the state of information now something out of nothing 👍
Excuse me but evolution is actually a poisonous-yes poisonous and filthy-heresy,without any scientific and spiritual basis.It has enormous soteriological issues! Christ,the God-Man, became Perfect Man.If we accept evolution,it means our Christ took a human form that has its beginning from an ape?!!!What a blasphemy!Man was fashioned according to the image and likeness of God.Period.
You know whats interesting when god created male and female to become one its like a imagination of the trinity between a male a female and god all 3 made one i belive that discovery of understanding shows the true beauty of god.
A big problem with evolution I began to have is the idea that evolution is driven by accidental mutations which are beneficial toward survival, but this can only be deemed to be the case further down the line after a series of subsequent mutations all leading in a particular direction, and then by the merit of us still being around, any mutation will automatically be retro-actively considered beneficial. It’s entirely non-falsifiable by the fact that humans exist to do science and investigate the genome, thereby rendering evolution as a blind force we are able to attribute all existence to by virtue of our own existence. Evolution is presupposed and then all the evidence is moulded to fit that model.
Unfortunately, I find myself unable to explain this fully. But does the idea of a beneficial adaptation not presuppose an ideal? An ideal not justifiable from the evolutionary worldview, because as long as any life exists then evolution is “working.” It seems nonsensical to me. That’s before even getting to a-priori reasoning etc
Evolution is the inverse of the gospel and the dogma of anti-Christian progressivism and occultism. The idea that we are ascending up the mountain from a lowly place, rather than being made in the image of God and having fallen, before being raised up again by Christ, our King and God
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Can im safe someone who probebly going to hell if im would be in heaven ? Can im ask god to forgive the man who he sent to hell?
You can always pray for the departed to God and ask Him for the deliverance of your loved ones, by starting now.
@@johnnyd2383 okey
I don’t think so. Because they are different form us & we are different form them.
You are correct we are definitely different form them. And some people just are thinking crazy 🤪
Preach the gospel message to all creatures, it dose say “creatures” also in isiah there are saved loins and other animals at the end of the book
Every single person watching this video, actually rejects church Authority when it comes to the heliocentric off of the solar system
Saint Basil and other church fathers were very explicit that the sun revolves around the earth
So, if you are denying evolution based on church Authority, you had better be telling people that the Earth is the center of the universe
What you are claiming is nonsensical. The Church Fathers are all against the evolution, which is man made religion of today. But you are free to believe whatever you want.
@@holyresurrectionofchrist the church fathers also believed the sun circled the earth
@@keenanmiller6231 that’s not important. Whether the earth is round or whatever has no implications to our salvation whatsoever, while believing in evolution, you believe that God created death since the theory of evolution preaches that. I do not believe that God created death. That’s a demonic belief
Not from "apes," from a "common ancestor."
But still never ceases: the fear that one's faith will become completely undone by slightest hint that (esp) Genesis may not need to be taken Literally, afterall...? Instead of engaging and wondering at the world that God has given us, one with He only knows how many things are still very much beyond our comprehension? But one we continue to explore and discover through Science. Being able to pause at gorgeous pics of distant nebula thru Hubble/Webb telescopes or follow odd, incomplete trails left in the fossil record is not to be frozen in some state of "demonic stupor," but rather one in which we should find ourselves stunned in absolute awe of His endlessly inventive Creation.
In Genesis, grass was created before the sun. From a scientific perspective that makes no sense. We’re not supposed to view it from a scientific perspective.
There’s overwhelming evidence for biological evolution. We have fossils, carbon dating, and we have empirical evidence of micro-evolution.
Eat banana.
No one said we did though except you guys...
What are your theories why our dna is so close? Also why do we look so similar to apes but no other animals on the planet. Apes are the only animals that resemble us… I actually believe we did not evolve from apes but I’m curious how you explain these two facts
This is what someone told me: "Let's say the soil contained various substances and micro-organisms, and God took these and created man...."
"You mean," I replied, "that if those elements did not exist in the soil, God would not have been able to create man? It would have been really difficult for Him?"
"Well, let's say," he continued, "that He took some things from the ape and perfected them. Couldn't that be how it happened?"
"Are you trying to say," I answered, "that God cannot create a perfect creature, that he cannot create a human being, even after dedicating a whole day to it? What should He have done? Go get spare parts? Why don't you read the prophecy of Job[1] from the Scripture readings of Holy Thursday? Science does not accept all the claims about our kinship with apes. How long has it been since man went to the moon? In all these years, have apes evolved enough to build a bicycle or at least a skateboard? Have you ever seen an ape on a skateboard? Of course you can teach him to do that, but that's not the same thing."
But the man would not give up. He would insist, "Let's assume this," or "let's say that...."
"Well, let's just say that you will not assume a thing," I finally told him. "This way you'll find the certainty you want."
The theory of evolution was being taught by a professor I knew at the University. Once, I said to him: "In time and with proper care a green bean plant will become a better green bean plant, the eggplant a better eggplant. If you feed and take care of an ape, he will become a better ape, but he will not turn into a human being."
And then there's this thing to think about. Christ was born of a human being, the Panagia. Are we to believe that His ancestors were apes? What blasphemy! And those who support this theory don't realize that they are blaspheming. They throw a stone and do not check to see how many heads they have cracked. All you will hear from them is: "Mine went further than the other fellow's." That's what they are all about these days; they marvel at who will throw a stone the farthest. But they care nothing about those who are passing by and the many heads their stones will crack.
@@holyresurrectionofchrist I’m still confused. It’s very nice writing but I’m confused. Why of all the animals above and below the ocean do we only resemble apes? Why is our dna so close? Again I don’t believe in evolution but I don’t think you actually addressed the question. Also with humility it is ok to say you do not know
People make helicopters which resemble a dragonfly. Why? Because that shape works the best for that action. Humans need to walk and grab things, raise hands in worship, knees to kneel and a waist to bow. Apes need to swing, grab fruit, and walk short distances, the way their body is composed (designed) works well for that. God can use a similar code to make body configurations that are needed to do those things.
Also the apes act out archetypes, the gorilla is ruthless and polygamous, the gibbon is a peaceful and monogamous animal. We can see one is a good creature and the other inherited a brutal existence from the fall from Eden.
@@James.E41 why did he copy an ape ? I thought we were made in his image…
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Ofc they didnt
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a spirit of lies, ignorance and reasonlessness is not of the holy spirit either.
You have forgotten most important one - arrogance. Perhaps you are missing a mirror somewhere in your place of living.
@@johnnyd2383 I don't understand this comment...
Are you trying to say that arrogance is part of the Holy Spirit..? The poor syntax of your comment makes it unclear asto what you're trying to say. Or maybe you're presuming that I am arrogant somehow based on my 14 word comment while knowing nothing about me?
Perhaps you don't subscribe to the theory of evolution and somehow feel offended by my comment, but you could have simply wrote that instead of going straight for the ad hominem attack? In any case, I forgive you.
I know that people who think and conduct themselves the way you do are actually pretty dangerous people given the right circumstances, and you probably don't deserve the apology, as you probably are incapable of apologizing for your mistakes, but for the sake of Christianity, I'll forgive you of your ignorance just this once...
But at this point, your weird comment has me writing more than you did based on how open-ended and poorly written your comment is.
Anyways, here's something for you to think about:
Proverbs 18:13
If one gives an answer before he hears, it is his folly and shame.
Proverbs 29:20
Do you see a man who is hasty in his words? There is more hope for a fool than for him.
Ephesians 4:29
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
@@johnnyd2383 Proverbs 18:13
To answer before listening-
that is folly and shame.
@@Liquid_Atlas You were saying what is NOT of the Holy Spirit and I added to your list arrogance. Ignorance is benign for as long as the one who is ignorant does not pretend not to be ignorant. People are on a learning curve for the entirety of their lives and at every point of our lives we are ignorant to certain extent in just about everything. So I will exclude it from your list.
Your mistake in adding arrogance to the list is evidence of what I have just said. Since you took offence in my comment it tells me how puffed up your ego is and hence I was right in prescribing you a mirror as a remedy. To conclude about your own ignorance, Bible lists the passions that are NOT of Holy Spirit: (Mark 7, 21-23), (Galatians 5, 19-21), (1 Corinthians 6, 9-10), etc. Cheers.!
@@johnnyd2383 Your unprovoked ad hominem attack was not of the Holy Spirit is my point right now... The offense that you decided to take from my original comment is of your own fleshly hatred, not some 'arrogance' on my part. And you are probably projecting the 'arrogance' thing onto me, as it was quite arrogant of you to presume to know the reasoning behind my original limited 14 word comment without asking me first.
Again, to answer before listening is folly and shame. -Prov. 18:13
And Ephesians 4:29 - Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.
Where is your grace when you slander someone without reason?
But I digress, now that you HAVE brought my original comment to attention in a very degenerated manner, I feel a need to explain myself very clearly to you before you continue in your baseless slander against me into a third comment. Rather than humbly apologizing on behalf of your baseless slander, this is how you continue, think of that... You are literally demonstrating that my original comment is true with your ignorance, folly and mistruth lol.
I was going to let you off the hook for it the first time, yet there you go on treading in your folly as a dog returns to its own vomit -Proverbs 26:11.
This is not spiritual behaviour; you are not elevated in the Spirit when you carry on like this, but maybe the Holy Spirit is not an important possession to you, I wouldn't know...
Anyways, the reason that I think lying, mistruth and conspiratorial thinking is not of the Holy Spirit is because of years of interactions and observations of how science deniers conduct themselves. They usually talk straight from the flesh with not filter, similarly to how you are doing right now, and they do not have a Holy Spirit presence in their words.
Often their souls are corrupted to begin with, which is what lead them to believing decieving spirits such as the flat earth conspiracy theory; things which have no basis in reality. It is a wicked spirit which has power over them that leads them towards flat out denying scientific facts or questioning things that have no logical basis being questioned. These things are not in line with a Spirit of Truth, and actually you can be a scientist and accept science and be more holy than someone who is a self proclaimed person of the faith by merits of your person and behaviour.
Again, in your case, you presumed to have the answer to the reasoning behind my comment BEFORE you even tried to ask me personally -Prov. 18:13, and then you continued in your folly -Prov. 26:11, and to top it off, you allowed baseless, corrupting talk to come out of your mouth, which is profaning you. -Ephes. 4:29, Mark 7:20.
Futhermore, rather than realizing your fault and humbly apologizing for it, you insulted my mirror. Like what does my mirror have to do with the topic at hand here, dude?
Again, you have no idea who I am... There is no Holy Presence in your words right now, which fully illustrates my point that baseless assumptions, lying and mistruth are not traits/fruits of a Holy Spirit and/or Holy Presence working in someone, and you should think on that intently before you continue into a third comment trying to twist a fellow Christian's words.
You are sinning right now.
Anger is of the flesh, of the earth, not of heaven or the Spirit, and anger is like gnashing of teeth. You should fight against that urge to continue slandering me. If you can do that, then I will say that you have a victory in the Spirit for yourself in this comment section where you were not invited, you are not needed and are not wanted. God bless you.
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Grandpa! It's been so many millennia! I haven't seen you since the Ice Age!
Ok but what about all those fossils?
Read the book by Father Seraphim Rose: Genesis and the origin of man. You can find it online
@@holyresurrectionofchrist how about all those fossils that prove the existance of evolution? How could all those animals have shared the same planet with no problems?
What about them?
@@Massimo2.0-zj1qy The fossils contain data found by scientists who interpret them according to the Darwinian framework. But they can also be interpreted in other ways. The fact is, a lot of the methodology scientists use (like carbon dating) is imprecise, and the bones themselves do not prove evolution. They can be used as evidence for it, but they do not in and of themselves prove it. There are many metaphysical problems with evolution, such as the emergence of human consciousness and the ontology of death, which can lead to the conclusion it is false.
@@Massimo2.0-zj1qy Fossils do not necessarily prove evolution. They are evidence interpreted to support it, but they do not in-and-of themselves show it to be true, as they can be interpreted in other, alternative ways. As for how animals could have shared the same planet with no problems, I am not quite sure I understand what you are saying, but if you are referring to the fact that in the Garden of Eden, all animals coexisted, it is quite clear that this was due to the fact that they lived in Divine Grace.
As a true Christian I can say this, man did not evolve from apes which is what you pointed out. But (I may have interpreted it wrong) did you say that evolution does not exist at all? There is basic evidence for evolution as when the enviroment of an animal changes, it must adapt to survive, this takes several generations but it is just true. Otherwise i completely agree with you.
It is why mammoths in the ice age had fur to fit their enviroment but elephants today do not. This is because their enviroment changes how they are adapted to it.
Adaptation.
Perfectly said, adaptation, evolution means getting better (from an inferior to a superior state of existence, materially), the laws of physics disprove that from ever happening
Nobody said mam evolved from apes. Man and apes evolved from a common ancestor. Get your facts straight.
There was no evolution of apes into man.
Man is a godlike created being. According to image and likeness of God, while animals are human like. That’s what we as orthodox believe.
Our common ancestor is Adam.
@@holyresurrectionofchristthat is not true there was no adam and eve been proven wrong already
You shouldn't mischaracter evolution like this. It is not said that we are evolved from apes or monkeys but that we evolved alongside them and only share a common ancestor far in the past. If anyone wants to argue against evolution they must understand it fully or discredit themselves
Evolution ultimately preaches that God created death. That’s false teaching. It’s an ideology
@@holyresurrectionofchrist I'm really not sure what you mean by this.
@@pancakekraken876 i think he meant the trial and error aspect of evolutionism, Man was immortal before the fall and that's a fact, how could he evolve from a common ancestor of the apes, if animals weren't esplicitly said to be immortal? And if animals were immortal, why were the Humans the only ones who would receive this gift (theosis), yet they have common ancestry with the apes? It comes down as unfair and injust, yet God is fair and just, which is why we reject evolutionism.
i think the liberals did
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Animals don’t have freedom to choose? Where does this come from?
Animals are not self aware... they are programmed to live by their instincts.
He must be from another planet...The individual is simply delirious, speaking parallel to reality. This aspect is specific to any manipulator.
Basic metaphysics and epistemology.
This is blasphemy!
God bless you
Must our dogma always speak at length before we give any data a chance to speak for itself?
What data?
Like the data on how the British Royal Society used Darwin's "theory" to subjugate the "less evolved" through colonialism?
@@0live0wire0 we can start with the data from the thousands of archeological digs uncovering genetically and physiologically distinct hominids like homo neanderthalensis, homo heidelbergensis, homo egaster, homo antecessor, homo erectus, homo ergaster, homo habilis, australopithecus africanus, austrolopithecus afarensis-each of which demonstrate a transitional step away from the hominin ancestor that we *appear to* share in common with chimpanzees, considering the 95% agreement in identical base pairs that our respective genomes share in common.
@@drewstinson3901 the example you cited is a case where Darwin’s theory of evolution has been used to demonstrate that all homo sapiens are more genetically similar to each other than they are to any other hominid group. And furthermore, that it is actually the caucasians who have the highest ratio of genomic overlap with our more primitive neanderthal cousins. The British government abandoned the scientific process and jumped to its own incorrect conclusions in the absence of evidence to fit its own preconceived notions about race.
Why would the theology conform to the "Procrustean bed" of theoretical science?
If you are not an Orthodox Christian, you can believe anything you want, but if you are Orthodox, then how can you believe that God created death? Evolution is an endless maze of self-recycling death.
God bless! however i want to say that sometimes what is said is barely understandable because the orator jumps from one subject to another mid sentence and opens many paranthesis
Feelings don't care about the facts. The facts: DNA shows us to be very closely related to apes. It also shows that we're related to every other living thing. We share very similar distinct physical characteristics with apes that we don't share with other animals, like opposable thumbs, upright locomotion, and our teeth have molars, canines, and incisors. We share similar penises that are unique among all living creatures. We're capable of communicating with apes using sign language. Apes are self aware. Apes have empathy and some understanding of fairness. Apes have complex social systems. Apes rely on companionship and nurturing for a long time after birth.
Blah blah blah.
> Chimps eat bananas
> Bananas are 50% chimp through DNA
> Chimps are cannibals!!
>> Never trust chimps (or those who claim to be descended from chimps) 🤣
"very closely to apes". That's essential. But we did not evolve from apes. I'll publish more regarding this topic. Stay tuned
@@holyresurrectionofchrist we are great apes so we evolved closely with them.
We share similar DNA but that doesn't point towards us coming from apes. There is no proof that monkeys have similar emotions to us, it's observations that pointed towards this thought, but those behaviours are merely because they live in groups. Monkeys don't have exestancial questions, they don't worship anything nor do they create art. This is what seperates us from all species.
So, when you see two simmilar cars or buildings you assume that they evolved from one? Or is it not more reasonable to assume one designer? I personally leave question of human evolution (with preserving of Adam and Eve as literal) open, but that argument from comparative features is specially weak one.
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So your forefathers you consider - monkeys.? Such arrogance renders you to the same lows.
@@johnnyd2383 I believe he was joking, brother.
Humans are mammals and members of the great ape family.
It's in vain that you explain this to people who don't live in reality, they live their lives in an embarrassing lie and lie to themselves.
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@@Bakarost Haha!
Even if one believes the Bible, Adam and Eve weren't immortal before the fall, after the fall, God says he has to get them out of the garden lest they eat from the fruit of the tree of life then become immortal.
Death entered the world at the moment of their fall. Prior to that event, it did not exist in the world. That is why Adam and Eve were given fruits for their diet as by eating the fruits, no death is caused either to animals or plants.
thats a myth
Explain your position please.
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you're right, humans share a common ancestry with apes, we didnt evolve from them. Educate yourself before talking about something you clearly know nothing about.
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Go to school and stop lying to yourself!
Get out of cognitive dissonance and get into consonance!
Yeah, but we still actually are apes.
spiritually, unfortunately
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@@holyresurrectionofchristphysiologically, too
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Maybe you are, but we certainly are not.
yes we did
No I did not. Neither did you, but you are free to think whatever you want
Youre right, humans didnt evolve from apes... because we are still apes!
Orthodox Christians are not in a same biological classification with your species.
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Because man were never apes, man was man even in primitive form, we evolved from primite man not apes. I dont understand how belief in evolution denies Christ. If it does then im going to church, going to confession for no reason then. Its not hard to think that God made all things and those things grew to their final form which God obv knew and accepted because He created it? You make a child with a woman and the child grows to a man
Same thing except God dont need a partner to create. If this denies the Trinity, or Christ somehow, i doubt i can understand. Just seems people who care about this have too much zeal. And too much fire burns the house down
THE IMPASSE OF “ORTHODOX” EVOLUTIONISM
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Well said
The problem is the theory of evolution is true. We know it’s true. And you truly can’t be a Christian and except the theory of evolution means Christianity is false.
Because reality is simply what it is
If you, God is real, you need to repent for making this and forcing people to choose a lie . This is going to be a stumbling block for many honest people
Or evolution is false and it’s difficult to accept Christ because He shatters your delusional worldview. Interesting how evolution has become religion
@@holyresurrectionofchrist it’s not false though . Some of us are former creationists who had to study biology in class . We had to study evolution. Some of us even held on to our creationism as long as we could in the face of reality
Telling people if you don’t accept 2 + 2 = 9 then you can’t follow Jesus isn’t going to go well brother
And that is exactly what you are doing. Because evolution is just a reality of biology and our world .
It’s not going away . It happened. It is happening. It’s real
You are creating a war between Christ and Reality .
I am not creating anything that is the position of the Holy Fathers of the Church. I choose to listen to them and my conscience rather then the wisdom of this world.
@@keenanmiller6231 Evolution is not just a reality. It is an interpretation of reality. It is a narrative built on certain presuppositions - false presuppositions.
This video is so ignorant.
Circular logic and zero understanding of evolution.
Evolution is a myth. Not a single evidence scientists managed to provide to prove it. When we see alleged predecessors of a certain species, lined up to show alleged lineage of evolution, we can always say that those are different species that went extinct and are no longer living, and those scientists can only steam in anger. They have no proof of any of their claim.
It's in vain that you explain this to people who don't live in reality, they live their lives in an embarrassing lie and lie to themselves.
We are made out of clay... right? so dont go out when it rains. Thats why we have umprelas.
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Amen