Simon Jordan SHUTS DOWN Reports That Newcastle MUST SELL Top Stars To Bring In New Players 👀
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- Опубликовано: 11 янв 2024
- TalkSPORT's Simon Jordan rejects claims that Newcastle may have to sell top players such as Alexander Isak in order to bring in new transfers.
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Yes Simon, yes. You've got it. The media are picking and choosing the soundbites out of Eales statement. "May" is the critical word here, its likely they will move, Almiron, Longstaff, Murphy, Lascelles etc etc to improve.
@@CC1984_ murphinhio has deffo upped his value last few seasons
@@CC1984_think we could get £20-25m for miggy , and maybe £30 ISH for longstaff ,
Longstaff frustrates me so much he is able to make intelligent runs and get into great positions
But really struggles to finish
Always leaning back smashing it into row z
If we could get £40-45m
For the pair of them it would be good business
@@CC1984_ well how much needs to be raised? Most clubs recoup around £30-£80m each summer from player sales without even trying, im sure they can get that much and more with the players they have in this market.
Almiron has £35m to Everton written all over him. Longstaff £25m to Villa. Etc.
@@CC1984_ They dont have to be "assets" if you listen to Darren Eales you would understand that if we even just sold Miggy for 10m profit that in itself creates a headroom of potentially a 50mil player amortised over 5 years.
@@CC1984_Eddie Howe definitely said he wouldn’t sell star players and laughed at the reporter suggesting he would have to. He said (paraphrasing) that’s the way the game is now, you have to sell players to free up money to spend players, he hinted at academy players being a target to sell but also said longstaff wouldn’t be someone they would sell a he’s established himself in the squad.
It seems to me Eddie Howe had been briefed very well, and the whole management of the team is attacking their situation and not on the defensive.
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
The CEO of Newcastle was outlining a business scenario which the media have jumped on and reinterpreted to get a nice headline splash, as usual facts are in short supply when you can have sensational journalism instead.
Correct,but that does nt get past the fact that the top clubs can spend twice as much as others and pay twice as much in wages to attract the best players. This is destroying competition.
74m loss and 200k loss a day Simon lost his club for business like this
150 million quid is peanuts compared to what Chelsea spent in one window.
Chelsea had made that revenue to spend that much! I think people forget how many players Chelsea also sold to be in line with ffp
@@elliotstone2764ssssh you are not allowed to scare people with reality anymore
If Newcastle can't break it into the top 6 with every advantage, lesser backed clubs don't stand a chance how is that good for the league???
Newly promoted clubs are spending over £100m a summer, everyone in the league is.. The money clubs have is less relevant than people think..
Exactly what FFP has done…made it nearly impossible to close the gap to the big boys
By long term investment, good recruitment and sensible planning.
thats becauses the profit gained in the prem due to tv rights and even if they go down with parachute payments allows them to spend that much@@Primitive01
It to stop clubs going bust@GIBBO4182
Eddie Howe had a man holding cue cards and another man pointing a gun at his face. He kept his cool throughout. I like Eddie Howe. He's cool
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Exactly, that annual loss of 73M includes all sorts of areas that aren't included in FFP calculations. The FFP "loss" will have been considerably smaller. And those annual figures don't account for the new Sela shirt sponsorship, the new Adidas kit sponsorship next season, or the Champions League revenue from this season. Financially, the club is doing just fine. But that doesn't mean they have carte blanche to spend on new transfers.
Exactly
FFP has established the positions of the elite clubs. It was introduced to stop clubs going bust by overspending. I’m not a Newcastle fan but how are they ever going bust if debt goes to the owner funding the spend and not the club!!
Exactly. In what other situation is an owner prevented from investing in their business, and brining that to a competitive level with other businesses?
There is no debt, the money is coming straight from the investment fund.
@@AlanBrownPhotography Don't be like Pep and play the dumbass and pretend what City have been doing and what Newcastle will be doing is all by the book and nothing is out of order.
To answer your question it is basically in all situations with regards to competitiveness that regulatory agencies try to prevent unsustainable practices. What City, and Newcastle want to do and are doing, is exactly the same as price dumping. That is to say, selling product for a lower price than it cost to produce to increase market share, drive competitors into bankruptcy or in case of international trade on nation level like China does, to drive a whole industry along with the jobs into China and away from other countries.
Of course City does have an answer for this and that is with fake sponsorship deals, so they will have Ethiad set up some non sensical jersey sponsorship deal and have Ethiad only pay 10% for it while the owners reimburse the company through other channels and boom, City are the highest earning club in the world right now. Or so the accounting firms tell us.
I am looking forward to seeing Newcastle all of the sudden attracting enthusiastic sponsors from Saudi Arabia all of the sudden or signing players on 8 year long contracts like Chelsea does.
@@jonb3150 last time I checked clubs are allowed to report a loss of 100m thereabouts and most do so why are saying city does this alone if you made a loss then you selling your product at below cost ... But as usual you criticism of the only club in English football which is well run top to bottom is proving to be out of jealousy more than anything else
@@robinramkhalawan468 Because City was and is spending money they are not earning. They use fake sponsorship deals to create fake revenue for the club so they can spend much more than is normal.
And no, most clubs do not do that. City fans are getting so used to being pumped up by oligarchs that they actually think it is the norm. That owners want to lose tons of money on a club every season just to, what? Why? Because the owners are such Manchester City fans, that's why they do it?
Why would Liverpool owners for example intentionally lose money on a club, when they are American investors. FSG are not Liverpool fans. They are businessmen. same with United owners. They pump profit out of the club, not stuff the club with their own money to create fake revenue so they can spend more money on players.
And City is not a well run club. It has just been pumped up with tons and tons of cash. This will obviously make them dominate the league. This of course does not mean it is well run anymore than PSG in France is.
The solution is very simple. Just dump as much money you can at the problem and in the end you will get results. There will be failures here and there but just keep throwing money at it and it will end up with a success. It's a very simple formula.
The top teams are already where they are
FFP have ruined lesser teams to challenge in most cases
Without fair play rules Newcastle city Chelsea and utd would run away liverpool and other clubs can't compete against them
I think that by restricting Newcastle's spending to 50% of that of Liverpool and other top clubs is not competitive, or fair. To be competitive clubs should be allowed to build their squads to a similar level (assuming they can afford it). Eddie Howe inherited a team of little value and being denied the ability to spend just helps those teams above.@@andrewwright4195
@@andrewwright4195 Yes agreed, although Liverpool are up there too. so it should be based on league position to make it more fair to lesser clubs...making it a level playing field
@@villainofthepiste8275 if they kept like 80s in first place wouldn't be in this mess sell to buy but no have to do new league and spend what they want I am sure that didn't kill clubs but I agree it is unfair on teams who are top liverpool and utd but we did build it in 10 years small clubs will get more money just have to be smart look at fsg spend less top 4 but won everything with 700 million
@@villainofthepiste8275 LMAO, Newcastle fans trying to drag Liverpool through the same mud you guys want to swim in. Liverpool as at the very best a mid table club in terms of spending, at best. If you mean to say that Liverpool is up there in terms of how well Klopp is managing the team, you are right, but if you mean Liverpool is up there in terms of spending then you are absolutely clueless about Liverpool.
Klopp took over in October 2015. His first summer window is before 16/17 season. So 4 seasons before he wins PL title. Unbelievably 3 of those 4 seasons Liverpool turned a transfer profit...and he still won Champions league and Premier league title. Net spend those 4 seasons was like 80-85 million euros in total. In 3 last seasons, when Saudis took over, Newcastle net spent 410 million Euros. So 4 times more spending in 3 seasons than Klopp did in his first 4 seasons. And of course Liverpool has net spent only half of what Newcastle has net spent in last 3 seasons from now.
According to transfermarkt.
Net spend of Liverpool in euros:
16/17 season: 6 million profit.
17/18 season: 11 million profit. Liverpool goes to champions league final.
18/19 season: 138 million net spend. Almost the same amount Liverpool got for Coutinho. Liverpool wins champions league.
19/20 season: 38 million profit. Liverpool becomes PL winner.
Next 3 seasons Liverpool net spent only 60 million per season and the message from the club every year for those 3 years was always that the next transfer window would be the big one. The big window never came and then finally this 23/24 season, when the squad is totally depleted and we can't even field a starting midfield since Thiago and kid Bajectic are injured and only midfielders in the club left are academy players Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliot bought for like 5 million. Then I would have thought net spend of at least 200-300 million to build a new midfield line up.
The end result was only 110 million net spend this season. Between Bournemouth and Burnley. And this was supposed to be the big window for Liverpool.
I tell you Newcastle fans that you will run out of excuses before you run out of money if you try to compare yourself with Liverpool and start whining about lack of transfer budgets. Absolutely laughable.
They'd be better off having under the table accounts and paying off the right people, then they'll be able to win a treble
They probably already are
Or just spend 1.2bn on the squad in pst 10 years luke man u
@@Godzzbinzz Man Utd can afford to do that because of their global brand, Newcastle aren’t a global brand so they can’t.
Just buy players and spread their contracts to 10 years and that one you'll be able to beat financial fair play.
@@tomodul2619i believe the rules are being made so that doesnt happen again ie chelsea.
Ffp is a rule brought in to keep the old guard,its a stupid rule that hampers competition
When's Joey Barton coming on?
Not that 🔔🔚
It was clear as day want the CEO said. The revenue is growing at a fast pace and we have to wait for it to continue growing before we can spend big again. In the meantime we may have to player trade. Which every club needs to do at no point did he say it was a key asset. It could be someone like Longstaff or Miggy
But it might not grow if you can't spend big first.
Are they not just waiting for their sponsorship deals to expire so they can dump money into the club via fake sponsorship deals like City does with Ethiad, Ethisalad, Visit Dubai etc etc? City got red handed explaining in an email to Ehtiad staff that they would only need to cover 10% of Man City shirt deal.
All of the sudden City is the highest earning club in the world and Pep plays the dumbass and pretends everything is in order.
@@izdatsumcp it's already went up 40% after year 1 and another 40% this year. We don't need to do massive spending to keep going eventually over time the extra revenue will result in higher standards
At least there's someone else who heard what I did. I'm frankly amazed that Simon Jordan appears to have heard it too.
@@shealey9763 yep our revenue went up 40% in 1 year and also apparently broke the £300m barrier this year. The narrative should be "Newcastle close financial gap on top 6" yet instead it's apparently we are skint and need to sell the family silver.
A big problem with Newcastle is the difficulty selling payers who won’t be required from the Ashley period like Hayden, Clark and Frazier who were given an extended contract just before the take over now they are reluctant to instigate a move because of what their wages are so other clubs don’t want to buy them because of their expected value.
Tbh Hayden understands hes not needed and is trying to get away for playing time. Proper decent bloke Hayden.
Agreed!! And Darren never said they were going to sell our star players but answered the question in practical terms how that can work. Been taken way out of context on him talking about how the business needs to run for the medium and long term vision.
These players are pivotal to our success
FFP IS to protect the cartel clubs, it was the cartel clubs CEOs that forced UEFA to formulate FFP. If they wanted clubs no to go under then they should move the spending risk onto owners and not the club.
sell some players, get in more players and have a better team. smart team building. Ron Saunders did this at Villa and won the title.
Great show this one.
Are they just trying to tell clubs to stop asking for ridiculous transfer fees??
Its a great hint that clubs need to take! They have all brought it on themselves over the years! The prem teams are the worst for it spending stupid amount of money on bang average players😂😂😂
Limit all clubs to 150m on transfers each year and you see the price drop for players .... Right now fantasy football is fairer than the real thing
This is one of the reasons Eddie howe was the best man for the Newcastle job.he has got players that were worth nothing to being worth 20 million +
If we were to sell a Bruno or Isak, it wouldn't be a complete disaster...
I remember a certain Andy Cole being sold by Keegan many years ago and it was considered a disaster, fans protested to KK and were up in arms, but then Sir Les was brought in and he was immense... and then Shearer and he broke records... Sometimes losing your star player isn't the end of the world. We may not have won trophies but we improved as a team and bought in better players.
A Villa fan pointed out how they have gone from strength to strength since Grealish left. They are in Europe and are near the top of the league.
Kane has gone and spurs have improved. They look better than they have done in years.
West ham lost Declan Rice and their league form has drastically improved and are sitting in the top 6 and doing well in Europe still.
Just saying, it's not the end of the world if Bruno (for example) left.
Very underrated comment, shame I could only drop 1 like 👍🏻
@@andrewtingate6658 thank you. I don't want to lose Bruno but if selling one of our best players is the only way we will be able to spend money to build the squad, it can't be avoided as the people at the top will make the decision that's best for the team.
The Star players are the spine of the future, we would only sell peripheral players
probably use the Chelsea Boehly-Eghbaly model which is to sell off home-grown product where the sale proceeds are pure profits and buy new players.
Why do fans and pundits on this station need to be continually told how FFP works? It has been in for over 10 years.
Eddie Howe looks like Steve Bruce drawn by A.I here
Simon Jordan is right , you don’t sell your crown assets , fillet your fish , you get rid off the least tasty bits , out with the players that’s really not top quality
Will ffp gain the agents most? If everyone need to trade and tinkle and keep using the system with contract lenghts etc the agents will get more activity/provisions/money...
Simon cites Blackburn, but realistically Keegan did exactly the same - the only difference was Newcastle blew the league lead in 95/6. When you consider Shearer's £15 million was a world record fee, Keegan spent more than £30 million net in 95 & 96 alone, Blackburn spent less net over the 3 seasons before they won in 94/5, before making £11.5 profit on Shearer in 96. Yes Keegan gave us wonderful football to watch, but I can never understand why only Blackburn's spending is mentioned
you couldn't be more wrong lmao
@@ryanrumpidge9456in what way? Both were funded through their owners putting money in directly; not by commercial revenue, tv or prize money. They did the same as Abramovich - except Walker & Hall had fewer zeroes on their bank balance
@andrewharrison7767 wrong Shepherd and Hall didn't fund anything at Newcastle except the take over from Mckeag, they bankrolled everything via the Barclays bank loans that every PREMIERSHIP team from the beginning to today are entitled to borrow, back in the days of Keegan it was between £15-20m could be borrowed at a certain Interest rate, that's how we ended up with over £120m debt because of mismanagement in the boardroom after Freddie Fletcher left us and that's FACT and hoe Ashley ended up with the debt by not doing due diligence
Why dont they sell Tonali, what a waste of a salary!
If that guy is saying the figures are wrong and newcastle have loads of money to play with then answer this .. Why are the richest owners in the world not keen to spend ? 😅
Ffp stops smaller clubs competing. Its that simple. No other industry presents a company from investing as much as it needs to win vs its competitors as long as cheating isn't done, you can invest as much as you want unless you go bust. Ffp doesnt stop clubs going bust, ever.
I have an idea about FFP. If the owner leverages bills against the club FFP applies. If the owner goes into his pocket book and doesn’t leverage purchases against the club. Then FFP doesn’t apply. That way the club is protected more or less.
This just goes to show that how much money you have isn’t the major factor in growing a club anymore.
The already established ‘big clubs’ are protected by FFP and all the other clubs - despite how much money they might have - are being artificially held back.
Oh I am sure Newcastle will find ways to cook the books just like City did. Would you believe that City is the highest earning club in Europe, that would be news to me but that is what their accounting firm tell us. Reportedly Ethiad is only paying 10% of the shirt deal with City.
A lot of Saudi Arabian fake sponsorship deals will be incoming now where Newcastle will get better shirt deals than Liverpool and United. I would call that artificial deals. And FFP is not artificially holding anyone back, they are straight up attempting and failing badly to prevent those kind of artificial revenue.
Newcastle will also be signing players on 8 year long contracts or some non sense like that, just like Chelsea does to prevent FFP interfering with reckless spending.
FFP is furthermore not preventing any club to spend the money they have, what you mean is FFP tries to to prevent owners from dumping money into a club, pretend it is the clubs money or revenue and outspend other clubs. But I am sure Newcastle and City fans would be quite happy to make this a 1-2 team farmers league like the Bundesliga are Ligue 1. Thankfully by far the most of us disagree.
Pfft Newcastle being held back. I got to laugh. Net spend 410 million Euros since new owners came in. We Liverpool fans are lucky if we get half that budget at same time.
To be fair, the concept of spending money you can afford, isn't new. The more you earn, the more you can spend.
@@jonb3150 You had 14 good years of being able to buy players we couldn't dream of. We haven't come anywhere close to your over a decade of development, just because we spent in the last 3 windows.
Mike Ashley was living death. We were like the starting character in bloody Dark Souls for 14 years.
I hate FFP
We are toonarmys for life
Finally people are realising FFP is all about protecting the positions of the big 6 (with the exception of City and Chelsea to an extent) why do you think they wanted a closed Superleague… Liverool and Spurs are the worst culprits
Interested to know why Liverpool and Spurs are the worst culprits?
@@hellalive8973because we spend wisely...
How dare we 🤣
If at all spurs did bad transfers and hardly spend while growing revenue.
Liverpool are tad bit lower than Man city but they spent big.
@@hellalive8973 err because you were the main instigaters of the Super League and one of the last clubs to stand down!
@@TheMadMan0 You are absolutely on drugs mate. Liverpool are mid table in the league in terms of spending. Not even half of what City or United spend. And like half compared to Newcastle has spent since Saudis took over. I am suggesting Klopp is masochistic to put up with the transfer policy since he took over. He seems to like being the underdog.
Nufc have reported there books and eagles clearly stating that we are up by 40% last 2 seasons we had £250 mill incoming with £70 mill loss
No he said there was a 74m debt from spending and 200k a day loss
Thanks for saying that Simon, and Eddie. My feelings exactly. Isak must stay especially because great as he is, we haven't seen the best of him yet. Shaar , Botman, Bruno hopefully stay too.
Newcastle do need to increase the strength in depth of the squad our UCL games showed that
I think the club are putting pressure on the FFP regs, it’s going to get a legal challenge, it stifles competition so there’s a case… the owners will not accept constraints
Liverpool built this model and showed the league that it can be done by selling and building a squad of players that can win titles and challenge the top.
Fantastic ran club, best run club in England
Liverpool were working on a base of a strong squad where players could be moved on for significant value. They are also able to spend twice as much as most other clubs. This MASSIVE spending advantage simply stifles competition and ensures those at the top stay at the top. If in doubt, check out the SQUAD value and wages for each team in the league, and compare to annual revenue.
@@AlanBrownPhotography to get to that point and from the brink of bankruptcy, the Fenway sports group have done an incredible job with less money than the other top t clubs in England.. I have no idea what you're even trying to say here...Great club and ran incredibly well
Liverpool got lucky and that’s all. Couldn’t believe your luck when Barca threw £130m at you for a player no where near worth it and Klopp still wanted to keep it. He’s worked miracles on a shoestring… with worlds most expensive keeper, defender and a striker that cost £85m and has scored 5 goals this season.
@@AlanBrownPhotography
I have to laugh. Newcastle fans are fulminating. They want to get in there and spend billions on top of billions like City. For some reason they keep talking of Liverpool here even though Liverpool is starved in transfer windows compared to other clubs. Liverpool is at absolute best a mid table club in terms of spending, at the very best. Newcastle is spending twice as much as Liverpool, but Newcastle fans want to spend like 10 times more and still complain and to quote you: "This MASSIVE spending advantage simply stifles competition". Absolutely weird approach and lacking any self awareness or reality check.
Klopp took over in October 2015. His first summer window is before 16/17 season. So 4 seasons he is managing before he wins PL title. Unbelievably 3 of those 4 seasons Liverpool turned a transfer profit...and he still won Champions league and Premier league title. Net spend those 4 seasons was like 80-85 million euros in total. In 3 last seasons, when Saudis took over, Newcastle net spent 410 million Euros. So 4 times more spending in 3 seasons than Klopp did in his first 4 seasons. And of course Liverpool has net spent only half of what Newcastle has net spent in last 3 seasons from now.
And no, Liverpool did not have a strong base in terms of squad. Klopp took under the radar signings and made them world class. 1 thing you should learn from Liverpool transfers is that you should never buy players from Liverpool, they always flop when they are out of the hands of Klopp. Coutinho was world class in Liverpool but flopped everywhere else. Wijnaldum, Henderson, Mane and Firmino have all flopped after they left Klopp.
According to transfermarkt.
Net spend of Klopp's Liverpool in euros:
16/17 season: 6 million profit.
17/18 season: 11 million profit. Liverpool goes to champions league final.
18/19 season: 138 million net spend. Almost the same amount Liverpool got for Coutinho. Liverpool wins champions league.
19/20 season: 38 million profit. Liverpool becomes PL winner.
Next 3 seasons Liverpool net spent only 60 million per season and the message from the club every year for those 3 years was always that the next transfer window would be the big one. The big window never came and then finally this 23/24 season, when the squad is totally depleted and we can't even field a starting midfield since Thiago and kid Bajectic are injured and only midfielders in the club left are academy players Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliot bought for like 5 million. Then I would have thought net spend of at least 200-300 million to build a new midfield line up.
The end result was only 110 million net spend this season. Between Bournemouth and Burnley. And this was supposed to be the big window for Liverpool.
I tell you Newcastle fans that you will run out of excuses before you run out of money if you try to compare yourself with Liverpool and start whining about lack of transfer budgets. Absolutely laughable.
I can't see us selling the likes of Bruno, Isak or Botman. They're the foundations upon which the club's charge to consistently break the top six will be built. And besides, we won't attract quality players without them. There are plenty of saleable assets if needs must: Murphy, Miggy, Wilson, Lascelles, Longstaff, Anderson, Krafth, etc. They're not £50 million players, but they'll raise enough for a couple of upgrades in key positions while revenue continues to grow.
If the purpose of FFP is the protection of clubs via sustainability........ why cant Newcastles' owner's just put 1 billion pounds into the clubs bank account? No need for the FA & EPL & UEFA to worry over the clubs balance sheet anymore. Clubs' future is sorted. 👍
Nice to see we’re *allowed* to comment on this
Shame on you, talkSPORT
What u on about?
When weren't you allowed?
What video have they stopped comments?
I haven’t seen a video where we couldn’t comment.
And yet we still wait for citeh' 115 ffp "questions" ...
It’s funny ‘they still spend significant money’ - still not even in the top 8 for PL spending in the summer 😂
They've hardly spent anything
The interview Darren Eales never said that top/star players would be sold...... its media who is reporting misinformation.
Ffp is a ruse to keep the big 6 the big 6 and everyone else can get lost its not a fair playing field
It's not a fair playing field. It never was. Without FFP, the so called big 6 would be over the hill and totally out of sight with maybe Newcastle making it a big 7. FFP was brought in after the horse had bolted.
@Themunkeymac I completely agree it came in too late. But everton were still sustainable but only thing costing them and holding them back was the p&s that forced them to sell the Brazil #9 at a lesser fee than market and cost them millions in league places with a points deduction for building a stadium to increasee revenues. Its a broken system
@@TheRobconnor Over the last 10 years Everton have relied on £678m of owner funding to pay the bills. More than any other club. The suggestion that Everton are in any way sustainable is laughable.
@@creepingbrain and man utd are a billion in debt living of bank loans.
Man City only joined the big 6 in 2011
Oh no they can't just buy success. How terrible.
City got in before ffp was introduced
@@mymemories925so what?
Chelsea sold hazard ffs. Spurs sold bale and kane
And Liverpool sold Coutinho.
First 4 seasons with Klopp, Liverpool turned a profit 3 of those seasons... and he still won the Champions League and Premier League.
According to transfermarkt.
Net spend of Liverpool in euros:
15/16 season: Klopp takes over in October.
16/17 season: 6 million profit.
17/18 season: 11 million profit. Liverpool goes to champions league final.
18/19 season: 138 million net spend. Liverpool wins champions league.
19/20 season: 38 million profit. Liverpool becomes PL winner.
So that tells you there keeping the top six where they are
Jim has left Everton cheerleader to Newcastle 🤡🤡
Owners now have to be interested in THIS particular field of business that they have invested in. We don’t want clubs going to the wall - yes it’s been lower league clubs, but sustainability is what we all want.
Think it’s time all the teams get together and abolish FFP
It really makes me laugh when people question eddie howe when you can clearly see newcastle have had rediculas injuries this season and the fact tonali tucked the club up because of his idiocy of betting on games when he was a main player for newcastle
Spurs are catching up with Arsenal and Chelsea revenue wise.. Brighton are doing the same.
newcastle purchased two donkeys barnes is a waste of space injured for over 4 months with a glass toe and tonali is a much use as a chocolate fireguard
Simons right we will catch up to the septic six soon when our revenue increases we will compete
FFP is (as far as my basic understanding goes) a great thing in order to protect smaller clubs from over spending and putting themselves at risk, however it also massively protects the already established powerhouses I.e Manchester’s. Arsenals etc as these clubs already have huge incomes from multiple resources (league positions, sponsors) so how do clubs like palace, Brighton etc close the gap,
Can’t get better sponsorship coz your not a big draw, can’t become a big draw/club because your spending is limited…
FFP will never appease everyone but for me..clearly needs looked at more
Sell Longstaff,Dummet,Richie,and buy a no6 CM stopper.
That would solve Newcastles woes.
AVFC played 10 in 35 before January… get on with it
Notice how few young kids are going to matches compared to yesteryear ? They are the future of football. If we are not careful the bottom will fall out and there won't be any football .
Fans are now customers
No mate. Looking out for young kids isn’t my kind of thing.
Does FFP need reviewing? How do teams with available wealth like Newcastle, Forest and Villa begin to compete with City, Liverpool etc.? It's difficult to understand why clubs owners can't invest in the business they own.
Ffp design to keep the clubs with bigger budget on top totally unfair...... If we want to be fair let all clubs have a specific budget and work within that let's say all clubs should have up to 200m to spend each year this would be fair
Agreed
The issue is that like it or not FFP is working towards strengthening the teams with the strongest squads. Like Simon says, commercial revenue comes from results on the pitch. Yet teams out side the top few are restricted in who they can buy. The likes of Newcastle are unable to compete for the top players as their current revenue is less that 50% than the likes of City or Liverpool, that also translates to wages - the top players preferring moves to wealthier clubs. I would love someone to do an analysis of each prem club wrt income, entire squad value, and top salaries - I think that would be an eye opener and a clear demonstration of how FFP is stifling competition. I'm afraid FFP does not work in this respect, more like FUP
Liverpool trebled their revenue by finishing in the Top 4 regularly, not owner funding. You can do it.
I agree with that statement. Man utd, Liverpool, City, Chelsea spent whatever they like. They have a solid foundation. Other clubs like Brighton cant just get a sugar Daddy owner and buy who they like.
Why isnt debt an issue. Utd are in debt and always are. That conflcts with ffp in my book. All profits should be used to pay that debt. Regardless if the club can sell assets to cover said debt. Double stds. No club under ffp can get into debt without consequences.
All clubs have debt mate
Were you concerned one win in 8 games? Uh, yes.
course it is to keep the cartel of top clubs closed
Watch us all pretend to be shocked when Longstaff is sold to a Saudi team for $150 million. It’s all smoke and mirrors don’t buy it for a second
FFP is a protects of the clubs that give the premier league the most brown paper bags
Eales gave and example of creating head room, and Talk Shite think we are selling Bruno & Isak
Simon Jordan looks more like the old man from Up everyday.
leicester doesn't win the prem without ffp.
likewise the league has gotten closer if we exclude 115fc.
Leicester broke ffp when the won the league get your facts right. Not the fairy tale you though it was😂
@@Kojo558 then they would have been punished if the prize money didn't fix their ffp.
get a grip.
you're out here trying to add a caveat to leicester winning the league? pathetic.
We will take Isak at the Boro if they don't need him
You'd be lucky if we loaned you Isaac Hayden mate
@@jtmmmm27 No need mate, we have super Hayden Hackney!!!
Don’t worry about ffp. Just get man city’s lawyers. Then you can do what you want. Get someone to sponsor your stadium for ten billion
All to be exposed late next season! The independent panel is unbiased and will do what is required
@@mymemories925no one believes that
Newcastle fans just need to be patient, it takes years to become a big club.
In Eddie we trust. HWTL
If Man City get soft punishments for their breaches Newcastle should just splash the cash and buy Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Brighton as feeder clubs.🤣
I think eventually Newcastle will move on Players like
Dubravka Krafth Lascelles Dummett Targett Longstaff Willock almiron Anderson Murphy wilson
can they not sell a player for 10 billion to one of their other owned teams and not have to deal with ffp for a while
Who was the last premier league to go broke because of ffp ?
everton 10 point deduction! man city 115 charges and nothing! chelsea and others just given small fine. Is A Joke!!!!
If they do need to sell a “ major asset “ arsenal better get their wallet out as Isak would suit them to an absolute T. Bruno is going nowhere unless someone completely breaks the bank Chelsea style. Tonali I doubt will go anywhere with the fact of the ban and the midfield is going to be unbelievable. Lascelles came back in and looks really good..: so that’s the botman reason for a transfer if they can get someone for good value.
Question. If owners can contribute to their yeams finances then why aernt the owners the fans ???
Can't *
I tuned out when Lord Gob said ffp wasn't done to protect the red cartel. What a load of waffling. How can he say that with a straight the sausage
Well Bruno has a 100mil buy out
Newcastle are not doing badly
So refreshing having Psycho instead of the muppet Keown spouting drivel
Mr i now everything is off again
Daniel Levy's way of running Tottenham Hotspur is proving to be the correct way to do things. And howling "Levy Out" supporters have no idea what they are talking about.
For heavens sake there are three organizations you should not listen to.The Government,BBC,and of course the M.S.M.❤
Wouldn't trust Eales as far as I can spit.
You guys boost up Newcastle because they got a lucky 4th place.. just like Arsenal who got a lucky 2nd place 😂😂.. i knew it was luck.. eddie howe football cant win tittles.. too much defnding .. goals win matches not defending
@@JJSpence15 lol clown .. only because other big teams where poor last season and this season.. like man u and Chelsea.. even villa will finish above both
When is ManCity's turn to get punished by FFP?
IF and when they’re found guilty. I know you must hate that thing called due process, but unfortunately it here so you’ll just have to wait
Id take eddie howe at city when pep leaves 😅😂😂i dont mind
It's only bog standard Newcastle that will never win f.a
3 minutes of waffle from Jim White before we actually get to the interesting bit!
Just send Tonali to Saudi lol
I"m a Newcastle fan and to be honest I don't want to follow a sport where money rules. Big clubs are the ones who have the largest revenue, and will always be so. I firmly believe that the Man Citys and Chelseas of this world will get hammered eventually once the top lawyers and even in City's case geo-political backroom threats are taken care of.
Both could in all probability be in the Championship next season.
I would also point out how cute Newcastle have been proven to be with regards to player recruitment - they are very adept at smoke screens prior to suddenly delivering top personnel.
Newcastle should do what City did and just have a bunch of Saudi Arabian companies ‘sponsor’ them.. if they don’t throw the book at City just shut down the premier league, absolute scam
Couldn’t we just ignore ffp, spend like maniacs for the next 4 window and by then, this awful super league will be underway which newcastle will prob end up moving to, meaning no restrictions, sanctions or any hindrance from FA, UEFA or FIFA ? This was my thoughts the last few years the way Barca, Madrid,Psg etc were spending, as if to say we don’t care because the second you try and deduct us, we will
Leave your tournaments. The clubs have the power.
"meaning no restrictions, sanctions or any hindrance from FA, UEFA or FIFA"
You are sadly mistaken if you think that is what the super league is set up to be. Why would Liverpool and Man United want to start that kind of a league when their main objective is to fleece the clubs of cash. It is to prevent relegation. Make everything really profitable. Put salary cap on all clubs. Make it like the NBA where the owners always make money. Next there will be a suggestion of same kind of transfer policies. Like a draft and trading players. If you are not competitive, no worries, we will give you the right to draft the biggest talent. Do you want to sign a player, oh sorry, we don't want that, we just trade players.
Now can someone explain how city spent and bought all these players for ten years without breaking FFP?
Again another blind deluded anti - City comment.
Look at all the academy players we’ve sold at virtually 100% profit.
Sponsorship money
Really simply actually, they win 🏆. City are a UCL constant and go deep into the competition each year. City have been top of the league or thereabouts for that period as well. The more you win, the more money you’ll have to spend. Newcastle need to win & the rest will take care of itself
They didn't. That's why they have 115 breaches of ffp
@anon7503 dont forget when city first got bought there was no ffp for the first two years.
I think most of them charges are bullcrap,i wanna see the evidence first