@@millercalen I, why not both, I reckon. Xivu's rage & anger sounds like a fitting touch for some exotic gauntless, used to melee the bath water out of the Hive. A fitting tribute for Xivu as well, is to be smithed into a sword, as another commentator pointed out. A sentient sword with Xivu's soul & billions of years of harvested tithe would be brilliant.
I think our guardian can pull a Savathûn on her. Technically speaking because we are paracausal we’ve proven we can break the Sword Logic more than once and have the ability to define our own logic in defiance of it. We destroyed Oryx and took not his throne, meaning his tithes are gone and go to Xivu rather than to us as they SHOULD. The logic is unelectable to the Hive, meaning we should get the tithes by strength not by conclave as Xivu wanted. I mean if you think about it, she didn't actually get tithes from the cabal's war, she gained power by actually having to defeat them in a war she waged on her terms, and the Cabal didn't have the power to alter those terms. We’ve technically beaten Xivu in Seraph, but I think that’s because we pulled something Savathûn would have. We changed the definition of victory. In Xivu’s eyes the only sort of winning is unconditional through fighting and killing. But what's different is our victory is in defense. By not fighting, but PROTECTING. If our guardian changes the definition of the war's victory from the destruction of the Hive through war but instead our victory is in the protection of humanity, then Xivu is powerless. If you listen to her tone she's very much DEMANDING we submit to the logic, meaning we aren't privy to it unless we actually give in like the Hive do. She's working on reputation alone now, which is a strong tactic. She wants us to believe that she's right, and that's more important than ever because she's losing her belief in the Logic, and in a cosmic irony sort of way we can give her that belief back. Hell she's silently fighting against the Witness who's telling her offhandedly that there's more than the logic, and seems to think that it's just a tool in it's massive toolbox. Xivu is trying to prey on the fact that she can define what we do on her terms. But in fact we can define it just as her, and she's likely very frustrated by this. But . . . her nature dictates that she respect our strength and hope to sharpen herself on it. Think a sort of Phylaks mentality only she can probably back it up.
I love how I keep hearing the word STRIFE like it's being hinted to the name of the next darkness subclass and suits perfectly along with the hints slash rumour of the third being red of colour
As I said in Byf's Video. The Bomb Logic can encompass and consume the Sword logic, as we, as the head of Bomb Logic, and grow stronger from Xivu's tests as well as other sources, and if even if we defeat her, it's not a true tithe to the Sword Logic - as the ultimate result is us getting stronger as a champion of Bomb Logic. The Sword Logic and strenghten us, because we cast little aside. We will grow from both our fight, and our strenghtened bond with our allies - where as her power comes from only war and violence. We are all that, and more.
The new weapon catalyst appears to be a random deep dive drop. If I recall it gives overflow and reloads the mag when collecting a stasis shard. It’s alright but should’ve either been headstone to play into stasis more or 4th times the charm to keep the crits rolling
Doubt it is, don't think a single person has got it, and there's a hidden deep dive triumph between the scout and the messages, so either time gated or a puzzle I feel
I think Xivu is just in love with us. She wants us to ascend the Taken King throne as is our right by Sword Logic and she’s constantly testing us just so she can watch us overcome everything time and time again with hearts in her eyes. The Hive god of war is down bad for us and I think I’m okay with that for some reason.
That's what I'm saying. By Hive standards the exotic mission was effectively a date, one that ended in us getting a gun! She's a woman after our heart both figuratively and also quite literally. One more of those and I think we should just become the Taken King. Think about it; we'd finally get our own customizable room in the form of an entire Throneworld with nigh-infinite vault space AND we'd get to take the Dreadnought out on joyrides. It's a win/win.
@@WafflesAndSauce I mean reality ends one way or another regardless, might as well go out throwing a house party so massive it fills the Dreadnought to capacity. I'm sure the Vanguard would understand.
We've had 9 years of plot armour, I doubt xivu can do anything to us. We already clapped her sisters (Oryx is a guy yes but he was actually a girl before becoming a Hive God, her name was originaly Aurash.) Just let me turn her into a gun when we fight her and Ill be happy :)
ofc she is they said tht at the end of a season that she could send 10x more reinforcements as she has but she aint since her worm feeds on violent deaths and war :)
So there is seven of those artifacts you have to destroy after you complete the boss. One thing though is that I destroyed the one above the statue and was able to listen to that message immediately after. So you don't actually need all seven to listen to it.
Ya know this reminds of hellsing abridged" i love war, you get wake up a flip onto the chabnel about whos going to get the box storage wars, then get ready for work and drive your shitty car and light turns and right next to you is a executive who works half as much you do class war, you go into and find out theres a drug test today drug war, but you find out it is only for your black and latino coworkers race war."
I don't think he would, specially this season dwelled into how he's trying to better himself as a person, don't think he will ever forgive himself, but with the nine and such, I think he is trying to be a better person, in some ways
Hmmm, so does that mean using this exotic we gift a tithe to Xivu Arath? When since the defeat of Oryx she, (as well as Savathun) would have been gifting a tithe to US IF we had taken up the Taken Kinship? We did not, and have not, we free'd Savathun from her Worm, and broke the chain of Witness's hold upon the Hive. True we killed both Oryx, and Savathun and only Xivu Arath remains bound, choking and screaming in her need to feed her Worm and her servitude to the Witness. Let us find a way to use this tithing, and end Xivu's pain.
I haven't watched this yet( I'm definitely about to ) but I just want to say oryx did it first...then savathun a few years later...xivu is just following in the footsteps
I think this is a completely different structure. The Pyramid was likely still functional and flew off when it finished. This feels similar to how The Enclave was left on Mars.
Hey so we... umm fucked up. Guardian, destiny lore wise. Hear me out. We should of let Eramis use Rasputin's sats to destroy the traveler. Think about it. If we did. The witness could not move on with the final shape or do what he did with the traveler currently. Sure the witness would of still got the veil but without the traveler. The witness would have nothing. And knowing the Eramis destroyed the witness (if the sats could). Eramis would of been getting the rage from the witness. Sure that would of started a full on invasion with the hive (xivu). However Ermais would of been fighting for more then two fronts and the House of Salvation would not survive. Plus again it would give the witness something other than the traveler to focus on, leaving earth alone. Granted there is not confirmation on that but with the amount of rage and hate the witness has for the traveler. Only to get to the last bastion the traveler was at, just to have one of your own destroy it without your permission and stop all your progress. Yeah I am sure he would be pretty mad with Eramis. Granted there is not confirmation that would happen. But seems the most likely. Also if you say "Well all the guardians would lose the light." Yes and now. The Lucent hive would of been hugely affected by the light lose. But our guardian is proof that we don't need the traveler. As long as the guardians protect the shard of the Traveler in the EDZ. the other guardians would be fine. Also also. Eramis is good at running. She would give the witness a worthy chase. Which would leave of to less enemies. Leaving the Lucent which we could ally with (tentatively) and Xivu's hive. Which we are so use to dealing with the hive. Eh it is another Tuesday.
Very fun mission and story but bruh the weapon is such a let down :( after giving it a few runs I do better playing normally than trying to get the perk off. I mean pvp it’s okay but pve idk. The catalyst doesn’t seem good eithet
You can join other people with the exotic broken blades and you can still get the exotic weapon. No exotic fish on your end is required👍 (Atleast, this is what others told me)
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Our Guardian has 7 years of plot armor. He/She will be fine. I just want to know, will Xivu look better as a fusion rifle or a pair of gauntlets?
Why not both?
A sword. Xivu cant be anything other than a sword. It would be the opportunity of opportunities lost.
@@cgpazevedo very good point
@@millercalen
I, why not both, I reckon. Xivu's rage & anger sounds like a fitting touch for some exotic gauntless, used to melee the bath water out of the Hive. A fitting tribute for Xivu as well, is to be smithed into a sword, as another commentator pointed out. A sentient sword with Xivu's soul & billions of years of harvested tithe would be brilliant.
Warlock arms/helmet, hunter arms and titan arm/chest if she becomes armour and a sword or glaive if she becomes a weapon.
"turn off the caps lock Xivu"
Xivu: "NEVER!!"
"I AM WAR!!!!"xivu arath
Yeh never ties in with her former name zero
MINE LOCK IS BROKEN! MINE CAPS ARE ETERNAL!
I think our guardian can pull a Savathûn on her. Technically speaking because we are paracausal we’ve proven we can break the Sword Logic more than once and have the ability to define our own logic in defiance of it.
We destroyed Oryx and took not his throne, meaning his tithes are gone and go to Xivu rather than to us as they SHOULD. The logic is unelectable to the Hive, meaning we should get the tithes by strength not by conclave as Xivu wanted. I mean if you think about it, she didn't actually get tithes from the cabal's war, she gained power by actually having to defeat them in a war she waged on her terms, and the Cabal didn't have the power to alter those terms.
We’ve technically beaten Xivu in Seraph, but I think that’s because we pulled something Savathûn would have. We changed the definition of victory. In Xivu’s eyes the only sort of winning is unconditional through fighting and killing. But what's different is our victory is in defense. By not fighting, but PROTECTING. If our guardian changes the definition of the war's victory from the destruction of the Hive through war but instead our victory is in the protection of humanity, then Xivu is powerless. If you listen to her tone she's very much DEMANDING we submit to the logic, meaning we aren't privy to it unless we actually give in like the Hive do. She's working on reputation alone now, which is a strong tactic. She wants us to believe that she's right, and that's more important than ever because she's losing her belief in the Logic, and in a cosmic irony sort of way we can give her that belief back. Hell she's silently fighting against the Witness who's telling her offhandedly that there's more than the logic, and seems to think that it's just a tool in it's massive toolbox.
Xivu is trying to prey on the fact that she can define what we do on her terms. But in fact we can define it just as her, and she's likely very frustrated by this. But . . . her nature dictates that she respect our strength and hope to sharpen herself on it. Think a sort of Phylaks mentality only she can probably back it up.
damn dude are you a bungie writer or just hella attentive 😮😂
@@marcianosummers3582 Hella attentive Seal grinder XD
And I know we got plot armor, might as well make it make some sense lol
She loses her conviction and morale in the causes, she’ll lose her strength.
Funniest part is this isn’t even the first time we fell for this exact trap
The Gullible Guardians
Hell it isn’t even the 2nd time, something about hive gods tricking us into making weapons that feed them power
It was oryx if I'm right
@@Apis6969 No it was Whisper of the Worm
@@ace_of_spades4038 it was Xol, Will of the Thousands
Honestly her giving us respect and wanting to fight like its a damn anime fight kinda has me giddy to see what she has in store later for final shape
I love how I keep hearing the word STRIFE like it's being hinted to the name of the next darkness subclass and suits perfectly along with the hints slash rumour of the third being red of colour
Called it ever since caitl said it at the end of light fall. She has a like where she says strife is coming or something along the lines.
As I said in Byf's Video. The Bomb Logic can encompass and consume the Sword logic, as we, as the head of Bomb Logic, and grow stronger from Xivu's tests as well as other sources, and if even if we defeat her, it's not a true tithe to the Sword Logic - as the ultimate result is us getting stronger as a champion of Bomb Logic. The Sword Logic and strenghten us, because we cast little aside. We will grow from both our fight, and our strenghtened bond with our allies - where as her power comes from only war and violence. We are all that, and more.
This is the first time I've heard of Bomb Logic can you link me to that video or explain it more?
The new weapon catalyst appears to be a random deep dive drop.
If I recall it gives overflow and reloads the mag when collecting a stasis shard. It’s alright but should’ve either been headstone to play into stasis more or 4th times the charm to keep the crits rolling
Should have been a stasis version of Polaris Lance
Doubt it is, don't think a single person has got it, and there's a hidden deep dive triumph between the scout and the messages, so either time gated or a puzzle I feel
I think Xivu is just in love with us. She wants us to ascend the Taken King throne as is our right by Sword Logic and she’s constantly testing us just so she can watch us overcome everything time and time again with hearts in her eyes. The Hive god of war is down bad for us and I think I’m okay with that for some reason.
Xivu is a baddy
Honestly, I wouldn't say love but I do think Xivu at least heavily admires the Guardian.
That's what I'm saying. By Hive standards the exotic mission was effectively a date, one that ended in us getting a gun! She's a woman after our heart both figuratively and also quite literally. One more of those and I think we should just become the Taken King. Think about it; we'd finally get our own customizable room in the form of an entire Throneworld with nigh-infinite vault space AND we'd get to take the Dreadnought out on joyrides. It's a win/win.
@@immoralboi3158all fun and games till the megamind/Virgil guy ends reality
@@WafflesAndSauce I mean reality ends one way or another regardless, might as well go out throwing a house party so massive it fills the Dreadnought to capacity. I'm sure the Vanguard would understand.
xivu can try everything, we'll still make xivu into a gun when this is all over
I love how Xivu always has caps lock on to show her passion and aggresion.
What a sweet god. She just wants us to be the best warrior we can be.
Really, Xivu? The menagerie trick? Ask Calus how that worked out for him... 😂
Kratos is looking for a new pantheon. Lol
“ALL WHO PASS THROUGH THESE HALLS ARE MINE CHAMPIONS, STEEPED IN STRIFE”
Very interesting considering the next subclass is rumored to be names Strife
Thanks for another fantastic video
Xivu arath has a awesome Temple
Really can't wait to finally face the God of War at the end of the universe
We've had 9 years of plot armour, I doubt xivu can do anything to us.
We already clapped her sisters (Oryx is a guy yes but he was actually a girl before becoming a Hive God, her name was originaly Aurash.)
Just let me turn her into a gun when we fight her and Ill be happy :)
ofc she is they said tht at the end of a season that she could send 10x more reinforcements as she has but she aint since her worm feeds on violent deaths and war :)
So there is seven of those artifacts you have to destroy after you complete the boss. One thing though is that I destroyed the one above the statue and was able to listen to that message immediately after. So you don't actually need all seven to listen to it.
Ooo.. a new weapon given by a hive god? Sure why not… totally not going to be a problem later 😂
As long as I get that loot I ain't complaining
Guardians fall for every trap, ever
Ya know this reminds of hellsing abridged" i love war, you get wake up a flip onto the chabnel about whos going to get the box storage wars, then get ready for work and drive your shitty car and light turns and right next to you is a executive who works half as much you do class war, you go into and find out theres a drug test today drug war, but you find out it is only for your black and latino coworkers race war."
I still think that slone is going to be the light side god of war.
Idk but I feel that drifter will become the next taken king I could be wrong but he like his Primevals and he messes with the stuff alot
I don't think he would, specially this season dwelled into how he's trying to better himself as a person, don't think he will ever forgive himself, but with the nine and such, I think he is trying to be a better person, in some ways
If are fight with xivu arath will leave a scar on existence I can only image what are fight with the witness will do.
Break or create realities. 😅
So is this pyramid area deep down in the sea of Titan?
Hmmm, so does that mean using this exotic we gift a tithe to Xivu Arath? When since the defeat of Oryx she, (as well as Savathun) would have been gifting a tithe to US IF we had taken up the Taken Kinship? We did not, and have not, we free'd Savathun from her Worm, and broke the chain of Witness's hold upon the Hive. True we killed both Oryx, and Savathun and only Xivu Arath remains bound, choking and screaming in her need to feed her Worm and her servitude to the Witness. Let us find a way to use this tithing, and end Xivu's pain.
what a surprise..................
NUH UH, she is using YOURS
we need savathune to convince her to change sides instead of fighting her
I haven't watched this yet( I'm definitely about to ) but I just want to say oryx did it first...then savathun a few years later...xivu is just following in the footsteps
Is the wicked implement fish themed?
Does this hint at what's coming at the end of this season or the next one?
she aint using mine. i havent bought the dlc ☠
Xivu Arath will turn against the Witness?
Is the Drowned Pyramid the same Titan Pyramid from season of arrivals
Yeah it is actually which is interesting
I think this is a completely different structure. The Pyramid was likely still functional and flew off when it finished. This feels similar to how The Enclave was left on Mars.
Error code baboon
Hey so we... umm fucked up. Guardian, destiny lore wise. Hear me out. We should of let Eramis use Rasputin's sats to destroy the traveler. Think about it. If we did. The witness could not move on with the final shape or do what he did with the traveler currently. Sure the witness would of still got the veil but without the traveler. The witness would have nothing. And knowing the Eramis destroyed the witness (if the sats could). Eramis would of been getting the rage from the witness. Sure that would of started a full on invasion with the hive (xivu). However Ermais would of been fighting for more then two fronts and the House of Salvation would not survive. Plus again it would give the witness something other than the traveler to focus on, leaving earth alone. Granted there is not confirmation on that but with the amount of rage and hate the witness has for the traveler. Only to get to the last bastion the traveler was at, just to have one of your own destroy it without your permission and stop all your progress. Yeah I am sure he would be pretty mad with Eramis. Granted there is not confirmation that would happen. But seems the most likely. Also if you say "Well all the guardians would lose the light." Yes and now. The Lucent hive would of been hugely affected by the light lose. But our guardian is proof that we don't need the traveler. As long as the guardians protect the shard of the Traveler in the EDZ. the other guardians would be fine.
Also also. Eramis is good at running. She would give the witness a worthy chase. Which would leave of to less enemies. Leaving the Lucent which we could ally with (tentatively) and Xivu's hive. Which we are so use to dealing with the hive. Eh it is another Tuesday.
jokes on Xivu, i dont have the season
Bruhwhy is xivu talking in kjv😂
Very fun mission and story but bruh the weapon is such a let down :( after giving it a few runs I do better playing normally than trying to get the perk off. I mean pvp it’s okay but pve idk. The catalyst doesn’t seem good eithet
She won't get any power from the gun bc no one will use it lol
Please let her be a raid boss or dungeon boss.....not seasonal content rubbish
well good i dont fish this stuff XD
Xivu cant use my gardian because i dont play the game anymore. So who tricked who?
Funny thing I've been up for 4 weeks haven't gotten a exotic fish yet
You can join other people with the exotic broken blades and you can still get the exotic weapon. No exotic fish on your end is required👍
(Atleast, this is what others told me)