This Fender Nut Is Terrible - How To Cut A Nut
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2023
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There can never be too many videos on this subject.
Agreed!!!
He has another video about nuts and is sitting at a lake campground. It’s very relaxing. I listen to the video in bed for relaxation
Wait... guitar maintenance or busting nuts 🤔?
What if this subject was the ONLY content on RUclips?
I appreciate you keeping it real and showing when things don't always go as expected, as opposed to just scrapping the video... this is what makes us learn the most!!!
I'm an Aerospace machinist and you are measuring just fine.
Trust my 40 years of experience as a machinist.
Thanks Dylan, your experience and knowledge and the way you explain why things are so invaluable. I learn a lot from you. That nut slot for the low E string is so difficult. There so little wiggle room as far as the correct depth, and the space you have to move the file. Too high and the first three fret notes are sharp, too low and the open string buzzes against the first fret. With my age and eyesight I could really use one of those gauges. I must consider buying.
Its been my experience - and again just my experience , that people who are are hellbent on bitching and arguing , will do EXACTLY that even if you are doing something the same way they do it . I do my best to not believe that this is human nature because I am very human but am still open to an objective point of view from someone else ; objective being the key word lol . Dylan you have a unique point of view and as objective as I am in the fact that you will at least try someone elses method and not just bump your gums like 90 % of the people in this planet . Thank you for giving me 30 seconds to share my 2 cents worth of opinion . Thanks also for sharing with true musicians seeking constant improvement - NOT constant approvement . Rock on bro 👏🤘👌
This is a perfect video in my opinion!! I love to see what the pro's do when things go wrong (and things will always do) !!! Ready to see the conclusion of this video !! Please show making the nut from scratch ?!
Dylan, would you and Leslie consider an episode JUST about a basic guitar toolkit youd recommend as the essential spoons, wrenches, and tongs for anyone who owns a few guitars to have? I appologize in advance if youve already done this, youve got a shit ton of videos and i havent scanned them for this today. If its just fret rocker, files, plug popper/string winder, soldering iron, then consider it already done in most of the videos as dicta, also.
Great idea
Good vid Dylan! I always learn something from you.
Very well done, Dylan. Even the part where you illustrated the edge of the nut cracking. Just subscribed on the basis of your approach on this.
Interesting tip (Stewmac, I think): Drop the nut about a foot onto a tile or other hard surface. Listen for the resonance of the 'ping' when it hits. There's an amazing amount of variation.
I've ended up mostly with white Graphtechs. No use for bone now.
Great counterpoints to Stewmac's instructions!
Great video. I totally agree about the StewMac nuts and those nut backers. High quality and worth it. I maintain all my basses and guitars so I have accumulated all of the sizes of those stew mac files now.
I'm not super picky on the nut material, although I'm not the biggest fan of brass because its a pain shaping them and the slightest burr causes strings to stick. Most importantly, avoid cheap plastic nuts.
Again great video.
Measurements with fiedler gauges, rulers and fancy digital string measurment tools only provide rule of thumb measurements. Final adjustment will always come from the player's "feel" of how the instrument plays which is subjective per individual.
You mean if I go by the numbers and it doesn't play how I want it to I should change it? No way dude you're nuts.
You’re 100% right. It all comes down to feel. If you file slowly even using a string or credit card and keep checking it you will get what you’re looking for.
Very important to note that it’s best to use this thing by pressing the plunger in the playing position. Same orientation you’d normally check the nut slot height with feeler gauges. Neck rests manipulate the measurement by flexing the neck. Also the strings sit lower when the guitar is in its back
Show me
Great Tip using your finger resting on the next string as a guide..Thanks
Nice work!!
Spot on…just this week I effed up the nut on my tele…cut the B slot too deep…now it’s buzzing against the first fret…uurrgghh!!!!
@DylanTalksTone Dylan thanks for sharing
I would contend that it's not just "this" Fender nut that is terrible, but all Fender nuts are terrible relative to non-Fender style nuts. I mean sure, Fender nuts are adequate, but for all Leo Fender's innovation and unique design ideas, Fender nuts are the one I hate the most. A thinner nut means a higher likelihood of problems like buzzing and chipping out. And unlike the chip out in this video, on a regular style nut, it will often be only a partial chip because there's more material so it can be salvaged and repaired much easier. And don't even get me started on f%^&ing radiused nut slots!
Not bitching at you though, Dylan. Great video as always, and please pardon my Fender nut rant!
Dylan, answering your question about measuring the string height at the 12th fret... are you familiar with the Hosco step gauge? You can get really precise measurements of the string height, at the 12th fret. But you need good eyes and probably also some kind of magnification.
Business Idea: Sell your own dial indicators, but call them "Dyl Indicaters"
I broke the bone nut on my acoustic almost exactly the same way last week. Luckily the nut is still functional, as I am gigging weekly at a restaurant with it. I learned some things here, thank you. I'm going to look for a handle for my nut files like yours. Where did you get yours. I agree that synthetic nuts are better because of their uniform density.
Dylan uses StewMac tools.
Think those digital nut slots are worthless. I own one and I am tired of the inconsistency of the readings. Mean I can use it twenty times and get different readings every time. The feeler gauges and pair of Optivisor never lie. (Yes we have to get low and squint our eyes) Diamond slotting files are the way. Trust me. You use a set of those and you will never go back. Doubt your nut would have cracked with a diamond file. Think tbe issues with the digital slotting gauge is that the bottom is flat and it rocks. Especially on the e strings. Just the variance of a fret board radius is enough to give an inconsistent reading. Was just like you in the beginning. This is the greatest thing ever. Then after about 20 nut and the desire for more accuracy im back to a Optivisor and feeler gauges.
this is amazing!. I need these tools lol.
One of my guitars has a micarta nut. It’s fantastic.
I bet you could also use it for neck relief as well.
Why the Zero Fret is still not the standard? I can't see bad things about it (maybe I'm blind)
I own that same tele same color mystic surf american pro ll, lefty i will definetily send it to my local luthier to setup my tele cheers from tijuana mex
Also, I really appreciate you posting your "mistakes" . Takes a heavy set of nuts to do that kinda thing and own it integrally!. (pun intended)
Best way to cut a guitar nut: Get a Zero Glide kit, replace your conventional nut (if you’ve got any problems going on with it) with a zero-fret instead.
What's the biggest tone difference / use cases / genres on a strat when comparing position 2 with a humbucker bridge (hss) versus single coil bridge (sss) pickup? Specifically curious about position 2 in both of these cases, and what would be missing if one went with an hss (Would be an interesting video comparing position 2 hss with humbucker, position 2 hss split, and position 2 sss strats)
Everything you said and did is 100% correct
Does that file holder fit all of the Stew Mac nut files? I've got about a dozen of them, but think that would be especially useful for my .010" file... that one likes to flex because it's so thin, so I have to change my technique to keep it straight. I have a sneaky suspicion that would solve that hassle!
Question. I play mostly chords and I have a heavy hand. Would you recommend an Earvana compensated nut? Or a Tusq should I compensate it ? Or can I?
Nice cap, Dylan. Who do you support? Checo or Max - or both ?
Ruh-Roh! I hate when that happens. But it was going to break sooner or later and it will be a whole lot better when you are done with it. What is you preferred choice of synthetic nut? Now, have a drink, it's 5:30 somewhere! Yes, I see that bottle behind you.
that looks like a nice measure gauge
it' appears simple enough the example you show
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Hey Dylan, I have a question. Do synthetic nuts also need to be adjusted like this, or is this generally more of a bone nut problem?
Most guitars you purchase off the rack need this done once whether it's bone or synthetic. I've found in my 45 years of playing that most guitars I've purchased (except for my Taylor acoustic, which was set up for a touring pro) have the nut slots too high. This saves the manufacturer time/money but it also allows you to set your guitar up the way you like it. For me, I'm glad it's that way because I like my action a little higher than most people on my electrics and I can dial it in just right. By the way, I've learned to always go with a quality synthetic nut. (no matter what the "gurus" tell you!)
How do we know what height to file to for each string?
I love that tool, but I don’t see me needing it. Also I hate paying for the Mac Attac factor
Ernie Ball uses a Compensated Nut, I'm not sure what they mean by Compensated but you should make a lesson about this. PRS uses a Radius Slope in their nuts which you should go over what Ernie Ball and PRS are doing to their guitar nuts. The theory and calculations behind it would help
i hope by leaving this comment i can get some help i saw these strings on a telecaster guitar at my local guitar shop they white strings they where very easy to press down i asked the people that worked there what strings are these they said that they didnt know....yeah they are my only guitar shop in town so i bought the DR strings they recommended they were way way to thick it might as well have been nickel or brass strings i bought anyways im trying to figure out what strings where on that telecaster anyone have any ideas?
"Synthetic nuts smell better." I wasn't expecting that, but very true.
Great tools. I wish there was a Chinese company called XuMec that sold them cheaper.
XuMec, the sister company of Chibson.
I can tell you what you did wrong with the gauge. You didn’t use metric
I'm an American and I use the metric system for guitar work. Counting to ten is super easy.
@@SonovaBish same, plus fractions are hard lol
He’s using thousands of an inch- which is significantly more accurate than hundredths of a mm (the metric option on this gauge). He’s not measuring in something crazy fractions of an inch here- how would using metric be better?
@@mbrooks0711 .001 inch is .0254 mm. Hundreths of millimeters is the smaller of the two.
I'm sure people make a job of it to whinge keep up the good work cheers from Australia
If at all possible, please give the measurements in millimeters as well. Thanks.
Yes, for 95% of the world who use metric !
Some useful conversions (rounded to the nearest 1/100th of a mm):
0.020" is 0.51mm
0.019" is 0.48mm
0.018" is 0.46mm
0.017" is 0.43mm
0.016" is 0.41mm
0.015" is 0.38mm
Thank-you for showing us how to care for our nuts......properly...lol
as for measuring at the 12th fret, there is no way in heck the human eye and a ruler will ever be anywhere as accurate as using that micrometer. despite it not being the intended use for the tool, it is far more accurate.
There’s just one problem, all measurements when setting up a guitar should be done with the instrument in held in the playing position! This rule applies regardless of what measuring gauges are in use. As for filing the nut slots with the guitar headstock rocking all over the place, no thanks.
Looks to me like you were a bit aggressive when you were filing and your file was rocking like a sea saw. This put some stress on the nut wall.
Oh well, we’re human right?
Since I have two left hands, I keep away from any tools and make my guitar tech happy 😉
Go to 12:01 to hear Dylan bust a nut 😂 and then explain why it happened. Jokes aside thanks a lot for making this kind of videos, sometimes it’s this simple setups that help us get to know a guitar better and truly enjoy it to the fullest potential
Stabilize the neck so using tools with such precision and you won't have that issue. You were wobbling all over the place.
@@firebald2915 I was wobbling all over the place just watching! But yeah, probably to much pressure and the filming surface wasn’t the best 😂
Bone is best for nuts and acoustic saddles.
If Tusq was better they would have been using it 150 years ago!
Lol!
Wait, did you just say a HUNDRED DOLLARS?’bn
That gauge is dumb AF. Just do it by eye and ear. It's pretty simple. I used those a lot in my life but they are a waste of Money and time. You do the tap test holding the third fret and tapping on the second
I agree. I can make a nut out of a blank in the time it takes to fiddle around with that rickety gauge. If you don't have the eye and feel for this, then leave it to those who do...😀🎸🤘🎸
Synthetic materials are constant, cleaner, and easier to work with. I don’t understand all the shade in favor of natural materials. They stink, they’re not up to the task for the long haul.
playing with nuts again I see
stop saying Ok, at the end of every sentence, ok? It makes you come across as authority. are you a cop? from New Jersey?
your angry tone makes *me* think you dont know what you are talking about. saying 'ok' doesnt help.
when you are filing, you are taking 'a bit off'. Is it in your mind about the target you are trying to hit? 'Being careful' 'I like that better' 'play it safe' 'i knew' isnt educational speak in any way, either is 'brand X' is better than this. Better isnt descriptive.
it'is nice to see someone file nut 🔩 slot for the electric guitar 🎸
this is a great video 📽️