After watching this video and graduating from social media College I think this guy is just a little bit upset that part 8 isn't being represented fairly in this game 🧐
@Aboood Fun - By definition, it's not a "remaster" due to the lack of under-the-hood changes aside from relatively minor additions. It fits squarely into rerelease/port territory, albeit likely the latter. (For context, Overwatch 2 is also not a "remaster".) - Prices are an issue across the board when it comes to the AAA (adjescent) market, and just pointing out that "Overwatch 2 is also expensive" isn't a valid criticism of the statement "this game should not cost $60." Neither of them should cost that much to begin with, so pointing out that ASBR shouldn't be as expensive as it is... is a completely reasonable point to make. - In terms of the additions you mention, basic balancing and refining of combat could be handled in a single patch and does not constitute an entirely new game. As for remade sounds and new moves, both of these are minimal with vast quantities of the content being directly pulled from the PS3 game - meaning they're not as high-quality as they could be. - The addition of new characters also doesn't make this a "remaster". They're additional content, and whilst I have no issue with them using stuff from EoH in order to fill out the roster, you wouldn't call a game like Mortal Kombat 11 a "remaster" of the first Mortal Kombat game just because both of them have Scorpion as playable fighters, because they run on different engines. ASB and ASBR, however, run on the same engine. - The presence of spammers isn't the issue itself, his issue with spamming is specifically in relation to the game's CPU fighters. If he was complaining about spammers online, I'd agree with you to an extent (though there is still an issue because it makes the experience less fun for all involved), but when the game's own CPU fighters are spamming moves, it indicates that they're not well-made - especially when you consider that the example he provided of Bruno indicated that the CPU was only willing to use one defensive strategy. This puts players at a disadvantage when training due to being unprepared for alternative outcomes. Whilst there are some minor mistakes and issues with the video, I feel like if your main takeaway from the video is "He missed the Avdol vs. Polnareff fight, Overwatch 2 is expensive and this video is objectively wrong, smh", then it might not be him that needs to think about what they say before saying it.
And even though some are from eyes of heaven every eyes of heaven character has a reworked move set making them. What’s that FUCKING NEW CHARACTERS. Hell trish was ass in eyes of heaven and so was deigo but now they are awesome
“The only reason there is no Avdol vs Polnareff fight is because Connect 2 forgot it even happened”… proceeds to show how there is in fact the avdol vs polnareff fight on the third page at 15:46
"yeah, we wont add New Moon Pucci because it will spoiler anime only..." Keeps on every reference to final battle in Jonny and Funny Valetine, Love train, stage.
One thing I think this video kind of gets wrong is that somehow characters in eyes of heaven were just *ported* into asbr, the thing is eyes of heaven isn’t really a fighting game, characters in ASB need new movesets to actually work in the 2D plain that they are now bonded to, also what 10 characters were they supposed to add that weren’t in eyes of heaven? We’re we really expecting them to not add Diego, Trish or Vanilla Ice? I’m not even trying to defend the roster by any means, it clearly has glaring problems but I’m not going to pretend that 10 characters were just copied and pasted and they called it a day (except for part 4 Jotaro I guess lol)
Pretty much this. Who cares if these character models were ported from EoH, they still have to build and design a character's move set from the ground up.
One thing I forgot to mention is that the GHA animations are reused, but eyes of heaven also reused the super animations from the original ASB so it was kind of expected and would’ve been a waste of time to animate all of these new super animations if the references were gonna be the same anyways
The "like hell i will" prompt is a Rohan quote,it also goes by the words "i refuse" back when highway star trapped Rohan he told Rohan to lure Josuke into the trap as well. Rohan hearing this sweet offer says......"Like hell i will/I refuse,if theres one thing Rohan Kishibe loves to do...is tell people no when they think they're hot shit".
Oh shit! Yeah I know the "Daga Kotowaru!" line but I didn't make that connection. I'm used to the subtitles for that line reading "But I refuse" so I didn't catch that, thanks dude, very cool!
@@maestrofeli4259 i like both,"i refuse" makes him sound calm but "like hell i will" makes him sound like he's actively trying to piss off his opponent. But thats my opinion.
@@chewiedog1 you've seen to many _But I Refuse_ memes that you didn't recognized the connection of the line *Like hell I will* and just complained about it for sounding like a cringe angsty teen.
14:59 it does seem random, but Koichi and Johnny have the same VA so this one actually had some thought put into it, unlike ones like Shigechi vs. Pet Shop where it feels like they threw arrows at a dart board to make the matchups
Actually it sorta makes sense considering that the whole Shigechi and Kira meeting started because a stray dog took his sandwich bag when he wasn't looking.
@@TheActualJeebus7520 We still don’t have Yasuho, Mamezuku, Jobin, Damo, or Kei 🤦♂️ Also, Gappy’s character model, color scheme, and moveset is very outdated. They didn’t even bother updating him…
Wow, this video is already super uninformed. They can carry over models but they barely can carry over their moves. Especially since eyes of heaven was super limited, they have to create new normals, stand attacks, stand specials, frame data, range. Like it isn't just a taken asset, they're taking the models and the visuals of supers. The rest up to them. It takes a lot of effort.
Yeah I just kinda rambled my thoughts out onto Audacity, I didn't bother fact checking a lot of stuff and a lot of people are bringing up stuff I got wrong. I appreciate the corrections tho, If I miss something, then at least people in the comments can find the correct information. And I agree about game dev taking a lot of effort, I know game devs get shafted by publishers and work crazy hours in piss poor conditions.
@@chewiedog1 After reading through the comments and replies I get it man, you were just throwing up your opinions and I doubt you expected so many people to see this video. You probably weren't thinking about how defensive JoJo and fighting games fans can be, and how they take anything said online as an authority figure having to be 100% factually correct
@@chewiedog1 I'm glad to know you're open to criticism. Not everyone can admit when they're wrong, and not everyone looks for ways to improve. I respect that mindset.
@@plastic0995 what are you doing trying to find a match on from a Japanese fighting game on Xbox? You go to Play Station or Switch for that. PC is exclusively for mods. It's been the standard almost since Street Fighter 4.
So the "Like Hell I Will!" is a crappy mistranslation of Rohan's "I Refuse!" There's lots of other god tier lines from the original that get utterly wasted because of wonderful translations
Wh-What did you think Arcade mode was gonna be? Its literally in EVERY fighting game. The more this video goes on, the more I feel like suggesting you just play Smash already.
One thing you didn't mention about the training mode; there's no way to change your health in training mode, it's stuck at full with auto regen. This is a problem because there are not only low health mechanics, there are moves like Purple Haze Distortion that can only be used at low health.
@@arcusmarc2353 I am aware, but it’s also possible to use the meter less low health distortion activation as a kind of cancel, allowing for unique combo routes which are difficult to set up in practice mode because of the lack of control
-updated graphics -updated framerates -new color pallets -10 new characters with new animations not in the old game -new stages -an entirely new game changing mechanic “ThIs DoEsNt DeSeRvE tO bE cAlLeD a ReMaStEr, ItS jUsT a PoRt”
It is pretty much a port with some bonuses. Like you wouldn’t call something like Pokken tournament a remaster going from the Wii U to Switch because they added like 5 new characters and did some minor tweaks under the hood
Bruh the graphics literally the same no need to defend it so hard. The only thing that carry this game is because we don't have any jojo game on old or even next gen. Also i'am playing this game on pc and even modders can make anime characters model and it looks even better than cc2 model
Why all is complaining about the graphics? Dude the Art Style made almost imposible notice any difference There are some games that do that like The Legend Of Zelda Wind Waker The game is a Remaster because it actually has an resolution update Or what Games like the Castlevania collections aren't remaster just because it doesn't have better graphics?
The reason Tooru and WoUwas so late is because nobody wanted to pursue him(and anyone who thought about it got hospitalized, but it was great as reference for his special moves), and Tooru took his sweet time to arrive of his own volition
weather reports stand was found by data miners in the files and his stand didnt make any appearences in the original game so the fact that it is in the game is a very good sign that he will be a dlc. I really would like to see how they can tackle weather in a fighting game other than an arena fighter like eyes of heaven.
8:27 Have you ever even read Baoh? It's a very short and sweet story Araki wrote before Jojo and is referenced many times in the anime adaptations with small cameos. Ikuro was the final DLC character for the original release of ASB on PS3 and it's a very cool nod to one of Araki's earliest (and best written) works. You should probably be a bit less condescending honestly.
No, I haven't read Baoh. Since It's short i probably will give it a shot in the future. My humor is a bit abrasive though, sorry if it came off condescending, I have no qualms with Baoh, it's all the name of entertainment
@@chewiedog1 it's only natural Baoh is top tier. He is said to be stronger than a nuke in his story. He would probably be able to win against Ultimate Cars.
"Copying and pasting from an old game," is said as if they are supposed to waste dev time on entirely new models, textures, rigs, for preexisting characters. What was expected?
Yeah man that comment doesn't make any sense since EOH and ASBR share the same Art Style Plus the Moveset is Brand New Using their time for making a balanced and fun moveset takes time
I would guess parts 3 & 4 get the most characters because they have the simplest stands. It would be a lot harder coming up with movesets for the later stands.
Actually he's here for jojo and not the fighting mechanic so it's kinda made sense. His ranting for the roster selection definitely understandable. Only 10 new characters, only few of them are new and rest of them from EoH. Also no new part 7 characters, only 1 part 8 characters in the base game literally a questionable decision especially when they already proves that they can add manga character like WoU. If you believe this is a game that made because they love jojo then u fkin wrong because this game definitely a money grabbing game that can be see easily even by a blind people (no proper story, no characters ending from arcade, trash net code).
@@renhardhalim truee The fact that they constantly refused to give the game rollback netcode and the stupid bug that makes you lose matches if the other player leaves proves that this was just a shitty money grab to capitalize on the part 6 anime without putting any effort
@@Futo_no_mononobe i actually wish CC2 choose to remastered EOH or making EOH2 instead of JJASBR. I'am not saying that JJASBR is bad, but releasing a remastered fighting game without netcode definitely shows their true colors. CC2 definitely not the same company like we used to know anymore. Even their Golden goose (Ultimate ninja storm series) getting fk by Storm connection that we all know for a no effort remastered that only used for money grabbing.
The non-canon fights pages are for "what ifs",or for example Johnny vs Koichi for having the same voice actor,but now I got no damn clue for Shigechi vs ice 🐔
I read through a bunch of comments but didn't see it mentioned, taunts are a part of every characters move set, the cinematic taunt is mechanic in the game
When you taunt a character that's on the ground from an attack, you do a cinematic taunt that lowers the enemy's Heat Bar by 1 , as far as I've tested you can only do this once per fight, but it might be once per round either way, it's this way to prevent it from getting exploited, as many characters have easy ways to make you tumble with minimum effort
Weather Report was found in the game's files, so he's gonna be DLC. The "like hell I will" line is just Rohan's iconic "but I refuse" line but bastardised. The localizers erased a lot of iconic lines and characters say a lot of stuff they would never say, even though most lines come directly from the manga. I think the localizers either aren't Jojo fans or Namco would have shot them for using lines from the fan translation.
@@Cr102y thing is we have to look at what the character would say if there could be more than one translation. And theres no way Rohan would ever say Like Hell I Well
@@Small_humon If it was about what the character would say then it’s still not innacurate considering that “like hell I will” fits Rohan’s personality.
@@Cr102y it doesnt really matter the point is theres a version of the translation thats in the manga, the anime, and everyones minds, and they picked some other one for... idk why.
I like how the extras fight have unique dialogue between characters who wouldnt normally interact. Also i hope they add more Jojolion characters but im not sure who. maybe Jobin would work best with his stand being a bit more direct in combat.
Ranked mode doesn’t even work. It says you have a “rank” but you still get matched with people who can consistently pull off 50 hit combos while you just bought the game an hour ago.
Josuke 8's All Star Battle Page is positively hilarious. They literally couldn't put any proper content of the part in there with only one character, so they just went with "what if he met all the other MCs?"
I can definitely see why you feel the way you feel, definitely not enough part 8 representation here and certainly there are some issues, but I gotta say gameplay wise it feels much better than asbr, the combos feel better and thank God there is a combo breaker. All your complaints are definitely valid though. Hopefully Joshu and Tooru get added as DLC. Personally though I really enjoy it.
Looking back I have to wonder if his opinion changed. Especially considering they're still adding more content even now. EVEN MORE SO that this graph now has another Part 8 fighter with Wonder of You. I won't lie, Parts 3-5 taking up over 70% of the roster is a bit nuts, but when you consider these 3 parts are the most popular for anime only fans I can accept it. This game is dead for online and still no rollback and they've said they won't be adding it either. If you can play with friends, this is the best IP fighter around hands down no question. BUT I do think there is something to be said about if they are going to keep adding characters that Parts 1 and 8 need more reps to really round this out and make it the best possible JoJo game available. It's not like they lack the ability and talent to do it either.
I’ve been an avid player since the PS3 era. I’ve always advocated that actually getting into a good connection match and playing someone is my favorite fighting game experience of all time, and still firmly believe that. In terms of balance and the characters themselves, almost every change is hugely refreshing. The problem arises when you have to deal with the numerous puddles of dog urine surrounding that piece of goodness in the game such as the mediocre offline modes, some lackluster voice performances, and the soul suckingly bad net code.
@@chewiedog1 as much as I loved it, there were a lot of glaring issues. Anyone that was a huge fan of playing the game against other people are huge fans of this remake. It’s a dope fighting game, there just isn’t much to supplement that, which sucks because it’s Jojo. Literally any fan service or cool stuff is all it would take to get more people to play it. Like an option similar to SF5 where you can have a character specific win quote or taunt would be super dope. The biggest heartache of this game is that the main developer, CC/Cyber Connect, is notorious for leaving games like this they made to die besides doing the literal bare minimum. Which means most of these issues will be probably around for the game’s lifespan.
As someone who only played eoh, I miss when sex pistols actually sounded enthusiastic However joseph's "Your next line" counters are an improvement from old asb bc now we can see how versatile his voice acting is Which is very
@@marcostheblinkedscout1309 some voice performances are head and shoulders better, while others became more like they were in the anime but just sound worse. Pucci is like the biggest example to me, he is an entirely different voice but just doesn’t have the impact and such that old Pucci did. Though some do say new one is better. Then you’ve got Pistols, who is just flat out worse in my opinion.
I think the game is fun, and while the netcode is bad, i still can find good connections and have fun, also i think your point about the game being a port is off by quite a bit, as this game has very different mechanics from the original, such as assists, perfect dodges, and many characters moves were changed in order to change how combos work in the game, this is definitely more than just a port. Video was funny, i do hope they add more part 8 characters though but i feel you lingered on it a bit too much.
Yeahhhh, I did exaggerate a bit for entertainment value, and I was totally nitpicking (especially with Baoh). I don't hate the game as much of the video makes it seem, I just wish they did it a bit differently
A game based on the Jojo anime? WHY ISNT THERE MORE PART 8 CHARACTERS 😡😡😡 Eyes of heaven is completely different from all star battle so they did have to make new movesets for new characters. Not to mention there is new characters that haven't appeared before?
I was watching the video all the way through, HOPING, he would change his mind about the game, but all the guy had was personal gripes against the game and finding small little reasons to why he doesn't like it. Yes, sure, some of the new character's models in the game are straight up ports, but that's it, all their movesets, fighting mechanics, etc. are completely new and require time to come up with, while also making sure the characters aren't broken af. I mean, you keep complaining about characters being "ported" but you continue to praise the variety and unique play styles each character has, it's really contradictory. As for the content, you'd be surprised by how much extra content JoJo fighting games in general have compared to others. I honestly see myself scrolling through the gallery and buying new art, 3d models and medals for characters I don't even play. Also I understand that there's a lack of part 8 representation, but you got to realize that even though the part is already finished, that doesn't mean the average JoJo fan has caught up to that point, so it would make sense to just cater to the anime onlys. Also complaining about all star battle and arcade mode was just ridiculous. There was literally nothing to the original game's story mode, so having a mode that is sorta a small celebration of iconic JoJo battles while also obtaining rewards likes skins, music, art, etc. which replaces the original game's way to unlock cosmetics. You also brought that the Avdol vs Polnareff fight wasn't there, yet you proceeded to show off the thumbnail to play the fight. As for arcade mode, it's deadass in the name, AN ARCADE MODE. No ahit you're gonna be playing the same character several games in a row, that's the point of an arcade mode. If anything. As for online, that was literally the only thing you brought up that happens to be a good complaint about the game, but it's so unjustified because you didn't even touch the mode or even attempted to play a match,all you did is show of clips of moist critical playing the game. The reason why I've come to that conclusion was because you had no clue to what the card tag option was. You obtain card tags by fighting other people online, simple as that. From my experience on playing the online, it actually isn't as bad as everyone says, it works about 7 times out of 10. I usually just come across 1-2 people who have terrible internet before coming across players who have a good connection. The game doesn't just have a 60fps boost too, but the original didn't have any sort of hit stun, making it a lot more difficult to string combos together, or at least that's how I remember it being. Now to my last point, you said the game was fully priced when that itself isn't even true, it's actually $50. The price point would've been a valid criticism too, but you couldn't even get that right. The only thing that truly caught my attention was the medal list being in the customization option and not in the shop. Overall, this guy was making poor excuses to hate on the game, do buy it whether you like fighting games or JoJo, and if you don't want to buy it at full price, wait for it to go on sale. It's a Bandai Namco game, they literally go on sale in less than a year. Deadass eyes of heaven goes on sale all the time for $12 with it's dlc. Same thing is bound to happen for asbr. Small lil edit: I feel like I was a little too harsh, but c'mon man, am I wrong? Another edit: Lmao, bro liked my comment then removed it.
I didn't mean to remove it. Yeah I was exaggerating for entertainment value. Also I agree it was a very nitpicky and a bit of a mess. I'm a much more casual player and so I don't really care all too much, so I gotta latch onto nitpicks. I just thought overall I think this game is a bit scummy and wanted to share why. Appreciate hearing ur perspective though, I'm still learning this whole youtube thing so I'm seeing now things i got wrong that I missed when making the video
@Big Crunch my comment doesn't exactly have to do with the show itself and more so with the poor criticism of the game itself. If it was a different game, I still would've found the criticism poor.
It’s a little weird Joshu Higashikata isn’t in this given he was in Eyes of Heaven, so they at least have a finished model and some moves ready to go for him. Same with N'Doul, although he might be hard to work out into a character in a fighting game like this. I’m slightly surprised the story mode in this wasn’t just the Eyes of Heaven story mode brought over given Hirohiko Araki had some hand in that. Game could’ve used Walken from Baoh.
@@atroe143 I don’t really see it with either of them. The thing isn’t how his Stand works, powers wise he’d be pretty easy to turn into a cool fighting game character. The thing about N’Doul is, at least to stay true to him, he needs to sit in place while doing stuff. You almost need him to be this really weird glass cannon trap character that throws stuff out, is really hard to get to, but is also basically dead if someone can get next to him. You’ll that kind of character is highly mobile in fighting game, but N’Doul needs to be a sedentary version of that. Like, there’s a reason when Capcom made their Stardust Crusaders focused JoJo fighting game, which has Midler in it, they didn’t make N’Doul a proper playable character.
Also, they undoubtedly decided to include more characters from parts based on their popularity. That's why Jotaro is given the most prominence on the cover, after all. It's the most well-known, so it has the most representation because marketing dictates it so that the game can recoup production costs.
I love the hyperbole you keep putting into the video. It feels very AVGN. Sometimes it’s difficult to figure out which of your opinions are hyperbole and which are honest criticism but I really enjoyed your video overall. I feel like a lot of the “new content” in this game was more optimisation of gameplay. There were often reports of the gameplay of the original ASB being “clunky” and “stiff”. The only truly original content was FF, Everglades, Prosciutto and Ghiaccio. I’m of the opinion the lack of Part 8 content was a long term goal that would be fulfilled with time via DLC. Since NM Pucci is probably coming with the Kennedy Centre stage, it is more plausible that we will be getting more than just characters in the future.
Yeah I love AVGN lol. It does lead to some issues though, some people take some stuff more seriously than I do and don't understand that a lot of what I say ... is satire or hyperbolized for the sake of entertainment.
To be fair jojo is easily one of those og games where it’s in a sweet spot to where there really doesn’t need any graphical changes when it already looked fantastic. Granted it could of been way better but it still looks good. But I do want stroheim
Boah is actually a really powerful character if you watched the anime. He is immortal and he can melt people for touching them and can make thunder powers and more abilities
Screw you, Horus is one of my favorite stands. Granted, a bit weird to put Pet Shop in over a second part 8 character, but still, I like Pet Shop so his inclusion is a thumbs up from me.
I'm looking forward to them adding in Weather Report (who wasn't in the initial release but was in EoH, so I'm against him being one of the paid DLC characters since he isn't a wholy new character) and the version of Pucci with C-moon and Made in Heaven (who was in the initial release, just not as a separate character), but I'd really like to see at least one more character from Jojolion and an updated move-set for Gappy that reflects the later chapters of part 8. Oh, and Stroheim and any other character who was playable in EoH should really be added to this game free of charge. I hope the remaining DLC fighters released will be ones we've never seen before.
I wonder where that guy from 2013 asking for Stroheim is now. Another comment made a really good point that a lot of part 8 stands wouldn't work in a fighter, but I can see Rai totally working, same with Hato and Joshu.
After all the dlc I think it's weird how n'doul and joshu weren't added as playable characters they were the only characters introduced in eyes of heaven that weren't in the original
There is certainly a fine line these days between a port, a remaster, and a remake. But in my mind, a remaster is the video game equivalent of a film going from DVD to Blu-Ray or from Blu-Ray to 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray. The game runs at a higher resolution and framerate than the original, includes tweaks to the UI and menus, and has several new characters and stages. Some of which (but definitely not all) are carryovers from EOH but the setup of that game is different enough to this one that it really isn't the same as simply reusing content. I think all of this more than qualifies calling this a remaster rather than a simple port. Although I do agree that it should have launched at a lower price point, maybe around $40 or so. Still a solid buy for any jojo fan that missed it on ps3. My only real complaint is the netcode, but I'm not a huge online guy anway (I prefer to play with friends in person if I can), so that isn't even a huge deal for me.
You know what makes me more upset about the fact there's only one to jojolion character. The had a trailer saying there would be a new part 4 6 and 8 character but when we got to part 8 it was just gappy with his original moveset but the only difference is the new voice lines
I do like that Joseph in Part 2 is reading a Baoh manga in the anime rather than SuperMan in the manga. I like it when showwriters/creators reference their older material as easter eggs in their newest stuff. I do like the idea of Baoh being a guest character in JoJo since like you said, Baoh was one of the springboards Araki would tackle before he would start JoJo. Kudos and respect are deserved to that oldie.
I didnt play asbr and dont know balance changes but in old asb baoh was just a meme. He wasnt bad all around but he had more block stun recovery frames than anyone so something like air atack into a throw was unavoidable damage
The game is NOT a port. New, updated gameplay, assists, new balancing patches, new stages, new characters, runs at 60 fps. All PS3 DLC included in base roster. More characters to come. Sound's like you're just hating just to hate
"I would barely call this a remaster since the graphics are barely updated" while showing a screenshot of the steam pages that describes how most of the changes are to gameplay Edit: also joshu sucks and I don't think would translate very well to a full fighter, and with all the long range stands and oddly specific stands I honestly don't know who they would add from part8. The only ally I could think of is maybe the rokakaka appraiser, for the villains who else but like the football twins? It would be very difficult to turn the Big Bad into a fighting game character
@@chewiedog1 also steam not being a platform that's local coop friendly? Not only does remote play exist, but you can also just... Connect another controller to your pc? I'm sorry but this video is so uninformed it feels like every other thing you say is just personal opinion or just provably wrong
@@MilkManic everything I say is entirely my personal opinion and holds no more weight than anybody else's 👍. You are correct, It is all personal nitpicks because they're my nitpicks and I wanted to express them in a video Also for JJl, I think Rai and Hato could totally be added
Personally I don’t mind the reused characters from EOH because it allowed for the bigger roster. Notice how F.F, Prosciutto, and Ghiachio are the only new characters they had to make from scratch. Those three probably took a lot of development time whereas someone like Trish or Diego was easier to put in. Also, had they not put in these characters, we would’ve had a smaller roster and/or there would be a lot of people mad. This is especially with Speedwagon and Diego, guaranteed if they weren’t in, there would be just as many people mad as those who wanted Part 8 characters. Part 8 definitely deserves more representation. I haven’t even read that far (I’m on Steel Ball Run) and I agree with that statement. But we have to face the realistic facts, this game is for the anime fans, not the manga fans. We have the anime voice cast, the colors, they’re timing it with Stone Ocean. Heck, they changed Pucci and delayed his C Moon version AND Weather Report to avoid spoilers for SO. The team probably didn’t want to spoil the incredible stories of part 7 and 8 to the anime only viewers. Honestly, the fact we got Diego at all just shows how beloved he is as a character. It’s a shame that 7 and 8 don’t have more but that’s how it is, the dev team knew that a lot of people don’t have manga access and wanted to protect their minds from spoilers That’s my two cents on the matter. I honestly love the game. I’ve been wanting a new JoJo game for forever. Me and my friend play online with each other a lot, and aside from the occasional TRANSMITTING it’s an absolute blast.
I feel like you just chose to ignore all the things people pointed out in the comments. Is a really fun game and the fgc agreed on that, the inly thing that holds it back is the terrible netcode
ik im a year late but i think they compressed the menu into 8 tabs because it represents the 8 parts of jojo that was out at that time, going from part 1 at the top to part 8 at the bottom
Fun fact baoh is araki's frist manga that got an anime and ova adaption also the ova isnt the first anime jojo as jotaro was in a commercial for shonen crossover game in the 80s or 90s i think also his hat is part of his hair
What bothers me the most is that they didn’t even bring over the more polished lighting, effects and, most importantly, costumes from EoH. The there’s some irritating model changes like for example Requiem Giorno who doesn’t have his „messy hair“ anymore even though they didn’t remove that from the anime or anything. My biggest gripe however is that they didn’t include any of the satisfying sound effects from the anime and didn’t bother to change the colors of the stand auras of different characters
I think they didn't add costumes from EoH because some of them are a little weird and might confuse people on hitboxes. The main one that comes to mind us that giorno skin with the ENORMOUS scarf. They prob realized some skins would be too much but then decided it was all or nothin ig? Also part 6 jotaro was gonna be a character in EoH, which makes me wonder if he'd be different, but he got turned into a costume iirc, which is sadge
@@marcostheblinkedscout1309 I mean when you hit someones scarf youre not hurting them. The bodies of the charactwers largely stay the same. And look at taht trish fit with no arms. Way more misleading and its still in the game
kinda, the DLC adds a lot more characters but at the same time paying 5 dollars for a character that should have been in the game to begin with sucks. Idk about the online though i dont play online.
Its downright criminal that they "remastered" a game, said they'd add 10 new characters, and not a single one is fron jojolion. Even tho it just finished, even tho there's so much potential for characters. Imagine Josuke with Go beyond, imagine Toru, Yasuho, and Joubin. Its honestly just a huge missed opportunity and a fat L on the devs part
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Great Video, agreed with a lot of your points👍
No way Jojodoss saw my video 🤧
@@chewiedog1 Nah im srry but when you said Weather report would come first but then we look it was Risotto
@@shadowbird5594 Oh no the order is incorrect 😫
@@Wongel_mit_Hut Misson Failed Try again next time soilder
@@shadowbird5594 🫡
The reason why Johnny and Koichi are against each other is because they are the only characters with Act stands
Nice
Bro I read this RIGHT after he mentioned it
They also share same va
@@votovoice8210wait really ？
@@cherie..cherry yeah, they're both voiced by Yuki Kaji
After watching this video and graduating from social media College I think this guy is just a little bit upset that part 8 isn't being represented fairly in this game 🧐
😂
Congratulations btw
😂😂
@goldbladeninja7932 thank you thank you it took alot of hard work studying for the finals
I am, too. I wanted to play as Yoshikage Kira, but I have to settle for Yoshikage Kira and Yoshikage Kira
Fun fact! The taunts are used to remove a bar of meter from the enemy they also added weather report for free with final pucci to reduce spoilers!
That’s not a fun fact. That’s just a regular part of the game
@@GoldNuggt so a fact, which also happens to be a fun one because you can taunt people so what’s your point?
@@zekkenquinnit's not fun it's boring
That fact bores me
Facts are subjective on their fun scale so you cannot revoke the right of this comment to be called a fun fact 😎
1 year later. And look. We got Wonder of U. Featuring Toru
And he's fucking broken
@KingCrimso i mean of course he would be lol
We still need yasuho hirose, jobin higashikata and tamaki damo imo
@@Pau31076Don't forget Tsurigi , Dr. Wu, Yotsuya, Hato, Daiya, Metsuba, Karera, Kei Nijimura, Part 8 Yoshikage Kira, Josfumi, Go Beyond Josuke, Joshu (Re-add him), Aisho, and Jodio
@etonasama it's just a list of everyone we need Also why?
"Why didn't they add some fights they could've from the actual manga, like Avdol vs. Polnareff?"
*Proceeds to scroll past Avdol vs. Polnareff*
Fr 💀
There is a avdol vs pol fight wat💀
bro i have no idea how I missed that 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀
@Aboood Fun ikr this guy complains too much
@Aboood Fun - By definition, it's not a "remaster" due to the lack of under-the-hood changes aside from relatively minor additions. It fits squarely into rerelease/port territory, albeit likely the latter. (For context, Overwatch 2 is also not a "remaster".)
- Prices are an issue across the board when it comes to the AAA (adjescent) market, and just pointing out that "Overwatch 2 is also expensive" isn't a valid criticism of the statement "this game should not cost $60." Neither of them should cost that much to begin with, so pointing out that ASBR shouldn't be as expensive as it is... is a completely reasonable point to make.
- In terms of the additions you mention, basic balancing and refining of combat could be handled in a single patch and does not constitute an entirely new game. As for remade sounds and new moves, both of these are minimal with vast quantities of the content being directly pulled from the PS3 game - meaning they're not as high-quality as they could be.
- The addition of new characters also doesn't make this a "remaster". They're additional content, and whilst I have no issue with them using stuff from EoH in order to fill out the roster, you wouldn't call a game like Mortal Kombat 11 a "remaster" of the first Mortal Kombat game just because both of them have Scorpion as playable fighters, because they run on different engines. ASB and ASBR, however, run on the same engine.
- The presence of spammers isn't the issue itself, his issue with spamming is specifically in relation to the game's CPU fighters. If he was complaining about spammers online, I'd agree with you to an extent (though there is still an issue because it makes the experience less fun for all involved), but when the game's own CPU fighters are spamming moves, it indicates that they're not well-made - especially when you consider that the example he provided of Bruno indicated that the CPU was only willing to use one defensive strategy. This puts players at a disadvantage when training due to being unprepared for alternative outcomes.
Whilst there are some minor mistakes and issues with the video, I feel like if your main takeaway from the video is "He missed the Avdol vs. Polnareff fight, Overwatch 2 is expensive and this video is objectively wrong, smh", then it might not be him that needs to think about what they say before saying it.
2:01
"Every single new character they were adding was from Eyes of Heaven"
*shows Prosciutto and Ghiaccio like a boss*
And foo fighters
And even though some are from eyes of heaven every eyes of heaven character has a reworked move set making them. What’s that FUCKING NEW CHARACTERS. Hell trish was ass in eyes of heaven and so was deigo but now they are awesome
Yeah I thought they were in eyes of heaven, but someone else pointed out they weren't. whoops. I think they were like a stage hazard or something
@@chewiedog1 pesci was a low quality polygon model in eoh
Everyone but ff Prosciutto Ghiaccio and Risoto is from eoh tbf
If bro had a dollar for every time this NERD meat rode part 8 he'd be richer than Speedwagon.
If only 🤧
Part 8 > part 7, fight me tusk act 4 tards Soft and wet go beyond solos
Richer than Joshu at his richest
I love this channel but this is definitely the most part 8 meat ride video I have ever seen
“The only reason there is no Avdol vs Polnareff fight is because Connect 2 forgot it even happened”… proceeds to show how there is in fact the avdol vs polnareff fight on the third page at 15:46
"yeah, we wont add New Moon Pucci because it will spoiler anime only..."
Keeps on every reference to final battle in Jonny and Funny Valetine, Love train, stage.
They even got ball breaker
“We wont add New Moon Pucci” who’s gonna tell him???
@Stupei3555 who is going to teach you how to read the date of when the comment was posted? Or do you prefer to stay dumb as fuck
@@Stupei3555they did
Lol@@Jacksontrooper777
One thing I think this video kind of gets wrong is that somehow characters in eyes of heaven were just *ported* into asbr, the thing is eyes of heaven isn’t really a fighting game, characters in ASB need new movesets to actually work in the 2D plain that they are now bonded to, also what 10 characters were they supposed to add that weren’t in eyes of heaven? We’re we really expecting them to not add Diego, Trish or Vanilla Ice? I’m not even trying to defend the roster by any means, it clearly has glaring problems but I’m not going to pretend that 10 characters were just copied and pasted and they called it a day (except for part 4 Jotaro I guess lol)
Pretty much this. Who cares if these character models were ported from EoH, they still have to build and design a character's move set from the ground up.
One thing I forgot to mention is that the GHA animations are reused, but eyes of heaven also reused the super animations from the original ASB so it was kind of expected and would’ve been a waste of time to animate all of these new super animations if the references were gonna be the same anyways
"JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Eye of Heaven" is better!
Vanilla Ice was vanilla ASB dlc but you're still right about characters like pet shop and yukako
I don’t really see many issues with the roster. Yes there isn’t a lot of part 8 characters but all of the characters we have are huge fan favorites.
The "like hell i will" prompt is a Rohan quote,it also goes by the words "i refuse" back when highway star trapped Rohan he told Rohan to lure Josuke into the trap as well. Rohan hearing this sweet offer says......"Like hell i will/I refuse,if theres one thing Rohan Kishibe loves to do...is tell people no when they think they're hot shit".
Oh shit! Yeah I know the "Daga Kotowaru!" line but I didn't make that connection. I'm used to the subtitles for that line reading "But I refuse" so I didn't catch that, thanks dude, very cool!
I refuse sounds so much better than "like hell I will".
@@maestrofeli4259 i like both,"i refuse" makes him sound calm but "like hell i will" makes him sound like he's actively trying to piss off his opponent. But thats my opinion.
@@chewiedog1 no problem,glad i could help.
@@chewiedog1 you've seen to many _But I Refuse_ memes that you didn't recognized the connection of the line *Like hell I will* and just complained about it for sounding like a cringe angsty teen.
Perchuto and pesci, risotto , foo fighters ghiacchio and risotto are not in eyes of heaven
Whoops. It's been quite a bit since i played it, thanks for pointing out my error
...but there's a prosciutto model for a stage hazard in eyes of heaven-
so i guess it counts?
@@swissycheese it doesn't only counts if they were a playable character
@@yoboiililtorii2998 yeah but they had models for them tho, they were literally stage hazard bosses
They had the models but thats it they have no cutscenes or moves or anything
14:59 it does seem random, but Koichi and Johnny have the same VA so this one actually had some thought put into it, unlike ones like Shigechi vs. Pet Shop where it feels like they threw arrows at a dart board to make the matchups
And they both also have stands that develop wildly
Koichi and Johnny are the only Stand users that have Acts to their Stands, so that's far more likely to be the reason
In part 3 iggy saved a kid from getting killed by pet shop, so I think it's a reference to that maybe
I’m pretty sure the Shigechi vs Pet Shop one is because birds tend to steal food
Actually it sorta makes sense considering that the whole Shigechi and Kira meeting started because a stray dog took his sandwich bag when he wasn't looking.
Well now there's two part 8 characters😊
Not in ASBR 😭
wdym? theres josuke and toru now. @@Kingdom_hurts
@@TheActualJeebus7520 yeah actually played it right after I commented this and I forgot 💀
@@TheActualJeebus7520 We still don’t have Yasuho, Mamezuku, Jobin, Damo, or Kei 🤦♂️
Also, Gappy’s character model, color scheme, and moveset is very outdated. They didn’t even bother updating him…
@@JohnnyBoi-11153 we need Go beyond fr, and the shovel
Wow, this video is already super uninformed. They can carry over models but they barely can carry over their moves. Especially since eyes of heaven was super limited, they have to create new normals, stand attacks, stand specials, frame data, range. Like it isn't just a taken asset, they're taking the models and the visuals of supers. The rest up to them. It takes a lot of effort.
Yeah I just kinda rambled my thoughts out onto Audacity, I didn't bother fact checking a lot of stuff and a lot of people are bringing up stuff I got wrong. I appreciate the corrections tho, If I miss something, then at least people in the comments can find the correct information. And I agree about game dev taking a lot of effort, I know game devs get shafted by publishers and work crazy hours in piss poor conditions.
@@chewiedog1 After reading through the comments and replies I get it man, you were just throwing up your opinions and I doubt you expected so many people to see this video. You probably weren't thinking about how defensive JoJo and fighting games fans can be, and how they take anything said online as an authority figure having to be 100% factually correct
@@MilkManic thanks dude, that means a lot to hear
@@chewiedog1 I’m not sorry you just disrespected my favourite piece of JoJo media money boy versus ice birb
@@chewiedog1 I'm glad to know you're open to criticism. Not everyone can admit when they're wrong, and not everyone looks for ways to improve. I respect that mindset.
"Weather Report is probably going the be the first DLC"
Risotto: I'm about to end this man's whole career
Bro they made me look stupid
@@chewiedog1 He's the second one don't worry
@@emperornefarious5273 *Puccis Alternate account enters the universe*
@@JonRinzRaccotterz Nah, normal Pucci will be available for free in a future update
@@emperornefarious5273 Oh I know he is free DLC the joke is that I hope pucci releases before weather, lol.
The game absolutely has an online community lol
its basically impossible to find a match on xbox or any console 💀
@@plastic0995 what about pc
@@plastic0995 play ranked
@@plastic0995 i find hella matches idk what rickety routers or servers you’re on but i find really good, sometimes non laggy matches
@@plastic0995 what are you doing trying to find a match on from a Japanese fighting game on Xbox? You go to Play Station or Switch for that. PC is exclusively for mods. It's been the standard almost since Street Fighter 4.
So the "Like Hell I Will!" is a crappy mistranslation of Rohan's "I Refuse!"
There's lots of other god tier lines from the original that get utterly wasted because of wonderful translations
Daga Kotowaru!
Like hell I will sounds better than I refuse though?
Wh-What did you think Arcade mode was gonna be? Its literally in EVERY fighting game. The more this video goes on, the more I feel like suggesting you just play Smash already.
Yeah I think so too
Gotta gatekeep smashers
@@gwen4557 Not Gatekeeping. More *suggesting*
@@gwen4557more like annoyed suggestion
Typical ASBR fanboy lol
All things considered, ASBR is a really good fighting game. Its biggest flaw is how bad the netcode is
Joe
@@chewiedog1 joe
That’s every CC2 game😂
@@chewiedog1 wait who's joe?
@@coooooooooooooooorn Joe Mama
One thing you didn't mention about the training mode; there's no way to change your health in training mode, it's stuck at full with auto regen. This is a problem because there are not only low health mechanics, there are moves like Purple Haze Distortion that can only be used at low health.
I completely agree with your point but you can also get distortion with fugo’s GHA. You probably already knew that but in case you didn’t.
@@arcusmarc2353 I am aware, but it’s also possible to use the meter less low health distortion activation as a kind of cancel, allowing for unique combo routes which are difficult to set up in practice mode because of the lack of control
@@ultraftriv9261 I didn’t know you can do that. That sounds sick as hell
There's also the inability to change forms so it's a big pain to practise a lot of combos, especially if you're Johnny
You can actually get into rumble mode as long as you take enough damage it will still work
1:23 welp at least he's getting Stroheim finally..
-updated graphics
-updated framerates
-new color pallets
-10 new characters with new animations not in the old game
-new stages
-an entirely new game changing mechanic
“ThIs DoEsNt DeSeRvE tO bE cAlLeD a ReMaStEr, ItS jUsT a PoRt”
It is pretty much a port with some bonuses. Like you wouldn’t call something like Pokken tournament a remaster going from the Wii U to Switch because they added like 5 new characters and did some minor tweaks under the hood
@@Purple_Sloth
What Updated Graphics???
The game still looks like it was made 10 years ago lol
Bruh the graphics literally the same no need to defend it so hard. The only thing that carry this game is because we don't have any jojo game on old or even next gen. Also i'am playing this game on pc and even modders can make anime characters model and it looks even better than cc2 model
Why all is complaining about the graphics?
Dude the Art Style made almost imposible notice any difference
There are some games that do that like The Legend Of Zelda Wind Waker
The game is a Remaster because it actually has an resolution update
Or what
Games like the Castlevania collections aren't remaster just because it doesn't have better graphics?
The reason Tooru and WoUwas so late is because nobody wanted to pursue him(and anyone who thought about it got hospitalized, but it was great as reference for his special moves), and Tooru took his sweet time to arrive of his own volition
weather reports stand was found by data miners in the files and his stand didnt make any appearences in the original game so the fact that it is in the game is a very good sign that he will be a dlc. I really would like to see how they can tackle weather in a fighting game other than an arena fighter like eyes of heaven.
TLdr: “Part 8 isn’t represented enough so this game sucks”
8:27
Have you ever even read Baoh? It's a very short and sweet story Araki wrote before Jojo and is referenced many times in the anime adaptations with small cameos. Ikuro was the final DLC character for the original release of ASB on PS3 and it's a very cool nod to one of Araki's earliest (and best written) works. You should probably be a bit less condescending honestly.
No, I haven't read Baoh. Since It's short i probably will give it a shot in the future. My humor is a bit abrasive though, sorry if it came off condescending, I have no qualms with Baoh, it's all the name of entertainment
@@chewiedog1 it's only natural Baoh is top tier. He is said to be stronger than a nuke in his story. He would probably be able to win against Ultimate Cars.
@@chewiedog1 if you want, it also got an ova adaptation
🤓
"Copying and pasting from an old game," is said as if they are supposed to waste dev time on entirely new models, textures, rigs, for preexisting characters. What was expected?
Pretty sure in this section he was just yapping. He even stated himself that he just went on a huge yapping session 💀💀
Yeah man that comment doesn't make any sense since EOH and ASBR share the same Art Style
Plus the Moveset is Brand New
Using their time for making a balanced and fun moveset takes time
6:19 don't you dare to underestimate PetShop, the god of HFTF!
I would guess parts 3 & 4 get the most characters because they have the simplest stands. It would be a lot harder coming up with movesets for the later stands.
You complain about Polnareff and Avdol fight not being in the game when it is in the game. Just two pages later. You can even see it in the video.
Hey, Now WOU is in the game as another part 8 character at least
They didn't really port characters from EoH, only the models. They still had to give them brand new attacks and combos.
god please keep this smash player away from actual fighting games
frr these kids vaporize at the sight of a good game like 3rd strike
I think it’s probably good when Smash players branch out into traditional fighters
Actually he's here for jojo and not the fighting mechanic so it's kinda made sense. His ranting for the roster selection definitely understandable.
Only 10 new characters, only few of them are new and rest of them from EoH. Also no new part 7 characters, only 1 part 8 characters in the base game literally a questionable decision especially when they already proves that they can add manga character like WoU.
If you believe this is a game that made because they love jojo then u fkin wrong because this game definitely a money grabbing game that can be see easily even by a blind people (no proper story, no characters ending from arcade, trash net code).
@@renhardhalim truee
The fact that they constantly refused to give the game rollback netcode and the stupid bug that makes you lose matches if the other player leaves proves that this was just a shitty money grab to capitalize on the part 6 anime without putting any effort
@@Futo_no_mononobe i actually wish CC2 choose to remastered EOH or making EOH2 instead of JJASBR. I'am not saying that JJASBR is bad, but releasing a remastered fighting game without netcode definitely shows their true colors. CC2 definitely not the same company like we used to know anymore. Even their Golden goose (Ultimate ninja storm series) getting fk by Storm connection that we all know for a no effort remastered that only used for money grabbing.
He really went “why isn’t there there avdol vs polnaraph fight” then 2 scrolls later the the fight is literally right there! 15:47
The non-canon fights pages are for "what ifs",or for example Johnny vs Koichi for having the same voice actor,but now I got no damn clue for Shigechi vs ice 🐔
I read through a bunch of comments but didn't see it mentioned, taunts are a part of every characters move set, the cinematic taunt is mechanic in the game
I meant that Speedwagon's taunt is more than just a taunt, It's actually a move
@@chewiedog1 what do you mean by this, his taunt doesn't function differently than anyone elses
When you taunt a character that's on the ground from an attack, you do a cinematic taunt that lowers the enemy's Heat Bar by 1 , as far as I've tested you can only do this once per fight, but it might be once per round
either way, it's this way to prevent it from getting exploited, as many characters have easy ways to make you tumble with minimum effort
@@Jack_Woodsit is in fact once per round, which is weird, but makes the game less toxic atleast
6:05, well that aged poorly
lol
Did you know? If you hit your taunt after knocking down your opponent, it takes away 1 bar of their meter
Oh that's cool
My guy Pucci was just one character in ASB initially, there WERE no Pucci mains that wouldn't go for the 14 phrases because that was kinda his wincon
"Like hell I will" is basically the Dub's version of Rohan's quote "I refuse" in the highway star fight.
Weather Report was found in the game's files, so he's gonna be DLC.
The "like hell I will" line is just Rohan's iconic "but I refuse" line but bastardised. The localizers erased a lot of iconic lines and characters say a lot of stuff they would never say, even though most lines come directly from the manga. I think the localizers either aren't Jojo fans or Namco would have shot them for using lines from the fan translation.
And he was added by dlc
Japanese doesn’t have 1 to 1 translations,those “bastardized” versions are merely alternative translations that are just as accurate.
@@Cr102y thing is we have to look at what the character would say if there could be more than one translation. And theres no way Rohan would ever say Like Hell I Well
@@Small_humon If it was about what the character would say then it’s still not innacurate considering that “like hell I will” fits Rohan’s personality.
@@Cr102y it doesnt really matter the point is theres a version of the translation thats in the manga, the anime, and everyones minds, and they picked some other one for... idk why.
Telling people NOT to buy a $60 game while the other options is to buy a ps3 along with purchasing ASB & EoH? Bro that’s $300 😂
Emulators are free
The reason they put shop and gallery together is because they wanted 8 options, 1 for each part
I like how the extras fight have unique dialogue between characters who wouldnt normally interact. Also i hope they add more Jojolion characters but im not sure who. maybe Jobin would work best with his stand being a bit more direct in combat.
I'd like to see both Joubin and Kei make it in ASBR
Well, do I have news for you!
Ranked mode doesn’t even work. It says you have a “rank” but you still get matched with people who can consistently pull off 50 hit combos while you just bought the game an hour ago.
Josuke 8's All Star Battle Page is positively hilarious. They literally couldn't put any proper content of the part in there with only one character, so they just went with "what if he met all the other MCs?"
I can definitely see why you feel the way you feel, definitely not enough part 8 representation here and certainly there are some issues, but I gotta say gameplay wise it feels much better than asbr, the combos feel better and thank God there is a combo breaker. All your complaints are definitely valid though. Hopefully Joshu and Tooru get added as DLC. Personally though I really enjoy it.
That's great! Games are made to be enjoyed, I'm glad you're enjoying it
WONDER OF U, LET'S GOOOOOOOO
Looking back I have to wonder if his opinion changed. Especially considering they're still adding more content even now. EVEN MORE SO that this graph now has another Part 8 fighter with Wonder of You. I won't lie, Parts 3-5 taking up over 70% of the roster is a bit nuts, but when you consider these 3 parts are the most popular for anime only fans I can accept it. This game is dead for online and still no rollback and they've said they won't be adding it either. If you can play with friends, this is the best IP fighter around hands down no question. BUT I do think there is something to be said about if they are going to keep adding characters that Parts 1 and 8 need more reps to really round this out and make it the best possible JoJo game available. It's not like they lack the ability and talent to do it either.
Probably still annoyed that he is locked behind a paywall
I’ve been an avid player since the PS3 era. I’ve always advocated that actually getting into a good connection match and playing someone is my favorite fighting game experience of all time, and still firmly believe that. In terms of balance and the characters themselves, almost every change is hugely refreshing. The problem arises when you have to deal with the numerous puddles of dog urine surrounding that piece of goodness in the game such as the mediocre offline modes, some lackluster voice performances, and the soul suckingly bad net code.
100% agree with everything you said, 'cept I never played the OG ASB
@@chewiedog1 as much as I loved it, there were a lot of glaring issues. Anyone that was a huge fan of playing the game against other people are huge fans of this remake. It’s a dope fighting game, there just isn’t much to supplement that, which sucks because it’s Jojo. Literally any fan service or cool stuff is all it would take to get more people to play it. Like an option similar to SF5 where you can have a character specific win quote or taunt would be super dope.
The biggest heartache of this game is that the main developer, CC/Cyber Connect, is notorious for leaving games like this they made to die besides doing the literal bare minimum. Which means most of these issues will be probably around for the game’s lifespan.
As someone who only played eoh, I miss when sex pistols actually sounded enthusiastic
However joseph's "Your next line" counters are an improvement from old asb bc now we can see how versatile his voice acting is
Which is very
@@marcostheblinkedscout1309 some voice performances are head and shoulders better, while others became more like they were in the anime but just sound worse. Pucci is like the biggest example to me, he is an entirely different voice but just doesn’t have the impact and such that old Pucci did. Though some do say new one is better. Then you’ve got Pistols, who is just flat out worse in my opinion.
@@thedandguy189 pistols make me sad I'm ngl.
I played eoh, they sounded so insane in that game.
In asbr they sound so fuckin bored and shoehorned in
I think the game is fun, and while the netcode is bad, i still can find good connections and have fun, also i think your point about the game being a port is off by quite a bit, as this game has very different mechanics from the original, such as assists, perfect dodges, and many characters moves were changed in order to change how combos work in the game, this is definitely more than just a port.
Video was funny, i do hope they add more part 8 characters though but i feel you lingered on it a bit too much.
Yeahhhh, I did exaggerate a bit for entertainment value, and I was totally nitpicking (especially with Baoh). I don't hate the game as much of the video makes it seem, I just wish they did it a bit differently
@@chewiedog1 bro you literally scrolled past an Avdol vs Polnareff fight
@@juub5171 oh yeah I know now 💀
Honestly I have no idea how I didn't see it
A game based on the Jojo anime? WHY ISNT THERE MORE PART 8 CHARACTERS 😡😡😡
Eyes of heaven is completely different from all star battle so they did have to make new movesets for new characters. Not to mention there is new characters that haven't appeared before?
The og game still had Part 8 josuke
My favorite part of the video is
"Why do you think you are burning in hell?"
"My affiliations with the attacks on Septe-"
I was watching the video all the way through, HOPING, he would change his mind about the game, but all the guy had was personal gripes against the game and finding small little reasons to why he doesn't like it. Yes, sure, some of the new character's models in the game are straight up ports, but that's it, all their movesets, fighting mechanics, etc. are completely new and require time to come up with, while also making sure the characters aren't broken af. I mean, you keep complaining about characters being "ported" but you continue to praise the variety and unique play styles each character has, it's really contradictory. As for the content, you'd be surprised by how much extra content JoJo fighting games in general have compared to others. I honestly see myself scrolling through the gallery and buying new art, 3d models and medals for characters I don't even play. Also I understand that there's a lack of part 8 representation, but you got to realize that even though the part is already finished, that doesn't mean the average JoJo fan has caught up to that point, so it would make sense to just cater to the anime onlys. Also complaining about all star battle and arcade mode was just ridiculous. There was literally nothing to the original game's story mode, so having a mode that is sorta a small celebration of iconic JoJo battles while also obtaining rewards likes skins, music, art, etc. which replaces the original game's way to unlock cosmetics. You also brought that the Avdol vs Polnareff fight wasn't there, yet you proceeded to show off the thumbnail to play the fight. As for arcade mode, it's deadass in the name, AN ARCADE MODE. No ahit you're gonna be playing the same character several games in a row, that's the point of an arcade mode. If anything. As for online, that was literally the only thing you brought up that happens to be a good complaint about the game, but it's so unjustified because you didn't even touch the mode or even attempted to play a match,all you did is show of clips of moist critical playing the game. The reason why I've come to that conclusion was because you had no clue to what the card tag option was. You obtain card tags by fighting other people online, simple as that. From my experience on playing the online, it actually isn't as bad as everyone says, it works about 7 times out of 10. I usually just come across 1-2 people who have terrible internet before coming across players who have a good connection. The game doesn't just have a 60fps boost too, but the original didn't have any sort of hit stun, making it a lot more difficult to string combos together, or at least that's how I remember it being. Now to my last point, you said the game was fully priced when that itself isn't even true, it's actually $50. The price point would've been a valid criticism too, but you couldn't even get that right. The only thing that truly caught my attention was the medal list being in the customization option and not in the shop. Overall, this guy was making poor excuses to hate on the game, do buy it whether you like fighting games or JoJo, and if you don't want to buy it at full price, wait for it to go on sale. It's a Bandai Namco game, they literally go on sale in less than a year. Deadass eyes of heaven goes on sale all the time for $12 with it's dlc. Same thing is bound to happen for asbr.
Small lil edit: I feel like I was a little too harsh, but c'mon man, am I wrong?
Another edit: Lmao, bro liked my comment then removed it.
I didn't mean to remove it. Yeah I was exaggerating for entertainment value. Also I agree it was a very nitpicky and a bit of a mess. I'm a much more casual player and so I don't really care all too much, so I gotta latch onto nitpicks. I just thought overall I think this game is a bit scummy and wanted to share why. Appreciate hearing ur perspective though, I'm still learning this whole youtube thing so I'm seeing now things i got wrong that I missed when making the video
@@chewiedog1 you're good
Editing a comment removes the heart, calm down
@Big Crunch my comment doesn't exactly have to do with the show itself and more so with the poor criticism of the game itself. If it was a different game, I still would've found the criticism poor.
It’s a little weird Joshu Higashikata isn’t in this given he was in Eyes of Heaven, so they at least have a finished model and some moves ready to go for him. Same with N'Doul, although he might be hard to work out into a character in a fighting game like this.
I’m slightly surprised the story mode in this wasn’t just the Eyes of Heaven story mode brought over given Hirohiko Araki had some hand in that.
Game could’ve used Walken from Baoh.
They could have taken inspiration from Zato and Eddie from Guilty Gear for N'Doul's moveset and gimmick, i feel like that couldve worked well
@@atroe143 I don’t really see it with either of them. The thing isn’t how his Stand works, powers wise he’d be pretty easy to turn into a cool fighting game character. The thing about N’Doul is, at least to stay true to him, he needs to sit in place while doing stuff. You almost need him to be this really weird glass cannon trap character that throws stuff out, is really hard to get to, but is also basically dead if someone can get next to him. You’ll that kind of character is highly mobile in fighting game, but N’Doul needs to be a sedentary version of that. Like, there’s a reason when Capcom made their Stardust Crusaders focused JoJo fighting game, which has Midler in it, they didn’t make N’Doul a proper playable character.
16:44 Nah I'm out I can't believe you're complaining about an Arcade Mode being in a fighting game, that's too funny 😂
They just now FINALLY announced one part eight character for the season pass
Also, they undoubtedly decided to include more characters from parts based on their popularity. That's why Jotaro is given the most prominence on the cover, after all. It's the most well-known, so it has the most representation because marketing dictates it so that the game can recoup production costs.
Though it’s not a full battle Joseph and Caesar “fight” when they first meet
The worst thing about this game is how Yukako desperately needs buffs since Eyes of Heaven
I love the hyperbole you keep putting into the video. It feels very AVGN. Sometimes it’s difficult to figure out which of your opinions are hyperbole and which are honest criticism but I really enjoyed your video overall.
I feel like a lot of the “new content” in this game was more optimisation of gameplay. There were often reports of the gameplay of the original ASB being “clunky” and “stiff”. The only truly original content was FF, Everglades, Prosciutto and Ghiaccio.
I’m of the opinion the lack of Part 8 content was a long term goal that would be fulfilled with time via DLC. Since NM Pucci is probably coming with the Kennedy Centre stage, it is more plausible that we will be getting more than just characters in the future.
Yeah I love AVGN lol. It does lead to some issues though, some people take some stuff more seriously than I do and don't understand that a lot of what I say ... is satire or hyperbolized for the sake of entertainment.
We finally got wonder of u
1:23 Game file digging seems to imply that Stroheim will be a dlc character
To be fair jojo is easily one of those og games where it’s in a sweet spot to where there really doesn’t need any graphical changes when it already looked fantastic. Granted it could of been way better but it still looks good. But I do want stroheim
Yeah it doesn't look horrible. But I think some of the background textures and lighting could definitely looked better
They really hyped up the graphic overhaul but it's barely noticeable if you're not looking at side by side photos
You should redo this review, especially considering the new update stuff which adds some missing characters that were mentioned in this video
Boah is actually a really powerful character if you watched the anime. He is immortal and he can melt people for touching them and can make thunder powers and more abilities
Baoh is the ultímate life form
@@valtube6728is he as ultimate of a life form as shadow and kars?
And?
@@Futo_no_mononobe ur so ohio late lil bro🙏😭
@@darealkiawe and?
We didn't get Joshu.
But we did eventually get tooru wonder of u, and even a part 9 character (rohan lol).
You feel quite familiar, it feels like I watched you since forever. Great video whatsoever and Im looking forwards more of your content!
Screw you, Horus is one of my favorite stands. Granted, a bit weird to put Pet Shop in over a second part 8 character, but still, I like Pet Shop so his inclusion is a thumbs up from me.
I'm looking forward to them adding in Weather Report (who wasn't in the initial release but was in EoH, so I'm against him being one of the paid DLC characters since he isn't a wholy new character) and the version of Pucci with C-moon and Made in Heaven (who was in the initial release, just not as a separate character), but I'd really like to see at least one more character from Jojolion and an updated move-set for Gappy that reflects the later chapters of part 8. Oh, and Stroheim and any other character who was playable in EoH should really be added to this game free of charge. I hope the remaining DLC fighters released will be ones we've never seen before.
Exactly
I wonder where that guy from 2013 asking for Stroheim is now. Another comment made a really good point that a lot of part 8 stands wouldn't work in a fighter, but I can see Rai totally working, same with Hato and Joshu.
@@chewiedog1 Honestly, if they get creative enough, I can see Damo, Yotsuyu, Toru, Kerara and Kei all working
I have bad news for you, Weather Report was already leaked and I'm hyped for it
@@thatonepyronoobToru….do you want the good news? Or the good news?
Hey well atleast toru's in the-oh
After all the dlc I think it's weird how n'doul and joshu weren't added as playable characters they were the only characters introduced in eyes of heaven that weren't in the original
There is certainly a fine line these days between a port, a remaster, and a remake. But in my mind, a remaster is the video game equivalent of a film going from DVD to Blu-Ray or from Blu-Ray to 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray. The game runs at a higher resolution and framerate than the original, includes tweaks to the UI and menus, and has several new characters and stages. Some of which (but definitely not all) are carryovers from EOH but the setup of that game is different enough to this one that it really isn't the same as simply reusing content. I think all of this more than qualifies calling this a remaster rather than a simple port. Although I do agree that it should have launched at a lower price point, maybe around $40 or so. Still a solid buy for any jojo fan that missed it on ps3. My only real complaint is the netcode, but I'm not a huge online guy anway (I prefer to play with friends in person if I can), so that isn't even a huge deal for me.
Great video man 🔥🔥 we just played this game and made our first video on this recently and we agree with pretty much everything u said 😂
You know what makes me more upset about the fact there's only one to jojolion character. The had a trailer saying there would be a new part 4 6 and 8 character but when we got to part 8 it was just gappy with his original moveset but the only difference is the new voice lines
No waaaay 💀
Hopefully that is hinting that one of the dlc will be part 8
I do like that Joseph in Part 2 is reading a Baoh manga in the anime rather than SuperMan in the manga.
I like it when showwriters/creators reference their older material as easter eggs in their newest stuff.
I do like the idea of Baoh being a guest character in JoJo since like you said, Baoh was one of the springboards Araki would tackle before he would start JoJo.
Kudos and respect are deserved to that oldie.
I didnt play asbr and dont know balance changes but in old asb baoh was just a meme. He wasnt bad all around but he had more block stun recovery frames than anyone so something like air atack into a throw was unavoidable damage
They actually listened to you and added Weather Report and also made it free
I don’t know if anyone has said this but joshu was in eyes of heaven so it would have been easy to put him in the game
crazy thing is that after this video tooru actually got added
No Yasuho? 💀 No Norisuke? 💀 No Jobin? 💀 No Tsurugi? 💀 No Joshu? 🚬😎🙏👌
10/10 game
Man we needed wou
The game is NOT a port. New, updated gameplay, assists, new balancing patches, new stages, new characters, runs at 60 fps. All PS3 DLC included in base roster. More characters to come. Sound's like you're just hating just to hate
"I would barely call this a remaster since the graphics are barely updated" while showing a screenshot of the steam pages that describes how most of the changes are to gameplay
Edit: also joshu sucks and I don't think would translate very well to a full fighter, and with all the long range stands and oddly specific stands I honestly don't know who they would add from part8. The only ally I could think of is maybe the rokakaka appraiser, for the villains who else but like the football twins? It would be very difficult to turn the Big Bad into a fighting game character
shhhhhhhhhhhh :P
@@chewiedog1 also steam not being a platform that's local coop friendly? Not only does remote play exist, but you can also just... Connect another controller to your pc? I'm sorry but this video is so uninformed it feels like every other thing you say is just personal opinion or just provably wrong
@@MilkManic everything I say is entirely my personal opinion and holds no more weight than anybody else's 👍. You are correct, It is all personal nitpicks because they're my nitpicks and I wanted to express them in a video
Also for JJl, I think Rai and Hato could totally be added
Personally I don’t mind the reused characters from EOH because it allowed for the bigger roster. Notice how F.F, Prosciutto, and Ghiachio are the only new characters they had to make from scratch. Those three probably took a lot of development time whereas someone like Trish or Diego was easier to put in. Also, had they not put in these characters, we would’ve had a smaller roster and/or there would be a lot of people mad. This is especially with Speedwagon and Diego, guaranteed if they weren’t in, there would be just as many people mad as those who wanted Part 8 characters.
Part 8 definitely deserves more representation. I haven’t even read that far (I’m on Steel Ball Run) and I agree with that statement. But we have to face the realistic facts, this game is for the anime fans, not the manga fans. We have the anime voice cast, the colors, they’re timing it with Stone Ocean. Heck, they changed Pucci and delayed his C Moon version AND Weather Report to avoid spoilers for SO. The team probably didn’t want to spoil the incredible stories of part 7 and 8 to the anime only viewers. Honestly, the fact we got Diego at all just shows how beloved he is as a character. It’s a shame that 7 and 8 don’t have more but that’s how it is, the dev team knew that a lot of people don’t have manga access and wanted to protect their minds from spoilers
That’s my two cents on the matter. I honestly love the game. I’ve been wanting a new JoJo game for forever. Me and my friend play online with each other a lot, and aside from the occasional TRANSMITTING it’s an absolute blast.
just check this game today, im suprised theres still 152 players online
3:36 so a whole bunch of non fighting games, and netherrealm games. Alright.
Seeing how much he complained at the start it REALLY doesn't shock me thats all he played
i disagree with like everything in this video but that prison architect joke was hilarious
I feel like you just chose to ignore all the things people pointed out in the comments. Is a really fun game and the fgc agreed on that, the inly thing that holds it back is the terrible netcode
6:05 watching this in 2024 is funny because they actually did add Tooru
ik im a year late but i think they compressed the menu into 8 tabs because it represents the 8 parts of jojo that was out at that time, going from part 1 at the top to part 8 at the bottom
I want Jodio before Joshu only to make you angry
15:46 polnareff vs avdol is right there. are you restarted?
Battle tendency defiantly could’ve had 3 maps like kars hideout place and also the place where Joseph fought esidesi
Fun fact baoh is araki's frist manga that got an anime and ova adaption also the ova isnt the first anime jojo as jotaro was in a commercial for shonen crossover game in the 80s or 90s i think also his hat is part of his hair
What bothers me the most is that they didn’t even bring over the more polished lighting, effects and, most importantly, costumes from EoH. The there’s some irritating model changes like for example Requiem Giorno who doesn’t have his „messy hair“ anymore even though they didn’t remove that from the anime or anything.
My biggest gripe however is that they didn’t include any of the satisfying sound effects from the anime and didn’t bother to change the colors of the stand auras of different characters
I think they didn't add costumes from EoH because some of them are a little weird and might confuse people on hitboxes. The main one that comes to mind us that giorno skin with the ENORMOUS scarf. They prob realized some skins would be too much but then decided it was all or nothin ig?
Also part 6 jotaro was gonna be a character in EoH, which makes me wonder if he'd be different, but he got turned into a costume iirc, which is sadge
@@marcostheblinkedscout1309 Bro that Giorno costume is my favorite XD
@@geschnitztekiste4111 yeah but imagine the hell it would be to play against someone with it
you'd be so confused where the hitbox is
@@marcostheblinkedscout1309 I mean when you hit someones scarf youre not hurting them. The bodies of the charactwers largely stay the same. And look at taht trish fit with no arms. Way more misleading and its still in the game
@@geschnitztekiste4111 uhhhhh i do not know about the trish skin huh
12:15
Here is something bad to say about Smash Bros: Still no Waluigi
From 2 years later here is this game in any better state than it was?
kinda, the DLC adds a lot more characters but at the same time paying 5 dollars for a character that should have been in the game to begin with sucks. Idk about the online though i dont play online.
Its downright criminal that they "remastered" a game, said they'd add 10 new characters, and not a single one is fron jojolion. Even tho it just finished, even tho there's so much potential for characters. Imagine Josuke with Go beyond, imagine Toru, Yasuho, and Joubin. Its honestly just a huge missed opportunity and a fat L on the devs part