I have been looking at the slides while the video is playing. But Holy F?! Eichi is a first year (15) when he implemented a competition system which gave an indirect massacre!
I have been in this fandom for like a week, two at most I munched on the lore at a record speed, working my *ss off to understand how this idol school works, only to find out that there are vampires, maybe time travel and a whole lot of trauma And that Eichi committed war crimes. I did not know what that meant until now. On the completely 180 turn, I have started to like Eichi more after this video, thank you!
remember the people in the audience during kanatas execution were practically chanting to kill him in a “bloodthirsty frenzy” and the war ruined his relationship with madara in a similar way as the sakuma brothers
and souma was ordered to kill him if kanata ever started ”going mad” or “defying” his position. we can thank madara for dismantling the entire religion
@@hellochako It's ! era Ryusteitai Chiaki flashback story called "Meteor Impact". But good lord, please read it a few times if you do because there is a lot to unpack and it haunts future narrative like you wouldn't believe.
@@ouwkaii actually, Souma's position in relation to Kanata is more complicated than that, due to their shared ancient history, but the order to kill god is actually something that has been passed down in his family, generation to generation since ancient times, and the occurrence of the first Meteor Impact. Madara wasn't the one who dismantled the religion, it was Kanata, but he did help in doing so. Also, the blood thirsty frenzy? Oh man is it insane what actually causes it and Kanata actually gives us hints as to what it was in part two of the Meteor Impact narrative. This will also become insanely lore relevant to Mayoi as well.
SOMEONE FINALLY EXPLAINED THE WAR!!! Absolutely great video man, explained the war and every character perfectly! This would have been draining for me to write this so I’m genuinely impressed with this
"i hope people dont come out of this video hating the group that irreparably damaged the mental psyche of 5 kids cause they were feeling their fascist-dictator egos as WELL as caused a mass of executions for the student body" In real life this group would be in jail, the school would by bulldozed down and idols would've simply ended as a usable concept cause there aint no way youre gonna put a grave next a school and think thats the end of it. the sheer size of this travesty and how every family of every victim would be affect and have motive to personally get involved to end this, no parent is sending their kid to a school where they have a grave for all the kids would suicided IN A YEAR there. AND you know this school was filled with wealthy ass kids, those kinda families wouldve actually had that evil ass group "executed" on stage. by burning at the stake like the witches they are hello!?!?
You're assuming that fine was directly causing their deaths, which isn't true. Even in narrative it was stated as being an unforseen and unfortunate occurrence of the reformation.
@@saioutakuma you're very okay with evil cute guys I know that about you. You don't have to try to explain how a reformation would naturally cause a full graveyard of students to pop up next to a school that houses the three generic Hitler heads of the verse, nobody would take you seriously anyways.
BRO ?? WHAT?? hello0 ??? excuse me ?? i htought this game was all "happy!" "music!" "woohoo!" "let's do this!" BUT WHAT?? i cant comprehend this games utter darkness .. this hits deep
@@jumgkoo3079 It's a running joke that Akira the lead writer for the game desperately wants to write mystery thrillers (which he has done before), but he doesn't want to leave Enstars. And so, you got these bewildering events and dialogues. Also Happyele probably had him chained into an office chair somewhere because his writings are sometimes so erratic and out of pocket I wonder if it's due to stress I mean, there are allusions that Wataru's hair is alive and he is the Second Coming of Christ. There's a theory that Koga is an actual werewolf and he uses rock and roll to channel his anger every full moon. Another wild theory is that Adonis is already dead, and he is actually a ghoul that feasts on human flesh. And don't forget of course about how Godfather may have summoned the soul of God Himself and implant it into Nagisa Enstars is wild man
as an enstar player who is into lore (but barely reads and dont have the time to read 😓) this is sooo helpful and gave me more infos and understand it more
Same I play ensemble stars music and played it for the music but I was always somewhat curious about the lore but I mainly didn't want the characters being ruined for me 😅
I'm pretty new to the fandom and haven't had the chance to read a ton of stories yet but. Eichi's actions during the War are pretty excusable, a complicated situation and he was honestly trying to reach the 'best outcome'. It's fine, complicated character with a good heart... But the story Milky Way/Fall of a Great Star is something that I don't think I can forgive him for. ='l Spoilers for it- This happens around a few months after DDD. After fine destroyed Valkyrie, Shu went into a depressive state for around 6 months. Finally they've recovered enough to start holding tiny lives, hidden away and outside of the school and the DreFes system because of trauma and the system being against them. Eichi hunts them down after one of these and gives a Horrible speech/ultimatum to force them to compete against fine (a second time= Trauma) or he will have AKATSUKI murder Nazuna and the cute little first-year bunnies that he adopted. The story ends with fine winning (because the DreFes is biased) and the last scene is just Eichi being entranced and inspired by Valkyrie's performance- zero regrets or second thoughts. Seriously, there is no way that Eichi didn't know what that first battle did to Shu Itsuki, the first Eccentric sacrificed to the War, the Eccentric who used to rule the school- who immediately stopped going to school and faded away into nothing after the War began with his defeat. The War was over, things were better now, and Eichi went and targeted Valkyrie after they had barely pulled themselves together again Just so that he and fine 2.0 could win against them. Eichi's speech antagonizing Shu is Sooo over the line- "Let us make meat pies out of rabbit flesh" (Fan translated but relatively accurate) He is a pretty great Character, but he is also a Terrible person happy to do and say messed up stuff purely for his own benefit, regardless of the impact on others. I do enjoy Eichi and his shenanigans' but he is just Not a good person. =P
@@StarNinja77 I just reread the stories translation and I think I understand why Eichi did what he did to Shu its because among the 5 eccentrics, he hurtNatsume, only 3 remained and continued to live their lives, shinkai+ryusetai, rei+undead,Shu and wataru+fine,, meanwhile Shu and Natsume refused to, Shu rebels and did not show himself in public stage only on underground music while Natsume is not showing himself, and we all know Eichi loves idols that his willing to hurt someone and be the villain as long as the idol industry thrives and if we say idol, Eichi actually idolize the 5 eccentrics for him their talent is what an idol should be that's why he chose them as the 5 eccentrics a being dominating the Yumenosaki academy that everyone should aspire to overcome uhhhm...(eliminate), but we all know the result, it's bad, buuut~~~ he repented already, especially when he and Tsumugi separated. from what I've read to support Ryusetai his been secretly giving the small jobs that fit their unit, Wataru is with him, and I'm not sure about his love and hate relationship with Rei. sooooooooo after the trickstar revolution/DDD Yumenosaki academy changes, units known and unknown is slowly revitalizing themselves except for Valkyrie and Natsume so for Valkyrie, in order not to waste their talent Eichi blackmails Shu, not just once though haha...😓😭 first is when he blackmails them in ruining rabbits so Shu shows himself in public media again and that's when Eichi+Fine was slap hard that Valkyrie was indeed the top unit talent-wise in Yumenosaki thus the scene where Eichi is admiring Shu, the second is.. I'm not clear I think Eichi blackmailed Shu again into not giving funds to Valkyrie for the lack of participation in official events thus Shu was forced to do live and since then he started doing lives again. while regarding Natsume+switch I think Eichi found out from Tsumugi that Natsume is having a hard time choosing to be future teller or idol thus he asks mao+trickstar to help Switch (i think the event story is titled three magicians) and in Natsumes monologue, he said that he understands why Rei and Wataru did not approve his plan and let themselves be the sacrifices, because he now understands that Eichis plan was actually the fastest and least destructive way in savIng Yumenosaki or the only plan that can save Yumenosaki since then switch was continuously participating lives and events and Eichi was happy with the current statuses. I just hope he lessens being aggressive and socially emotionless though my heart still aches for those babies hurt😞
I know Eichi started a whole war, but wasn't Yumenosaki Academy responsible for enabling Eichi to do that? Yumenosaki Academy literally neglected its students; the lack of care towards them was so severe that, not only did it enable students to simply to leech onto the academy's reputation, but it also permitted a very toxic environment to grow, one where students forced eachother into a strict hierarchy in which everyone fought each other like starving dogs, like how Jun said himself that people were bullied in YA if they lost their reputation, and the administration didn't do anything about it. Because YA is super famous and because there is probably some kind of mafia behind all of this (the godfather I suppose), the police would've done nothing about it, even though reporting YA for student neglect was the right thing to do. Unfortunately, the war was one of the solutions possible, and what Eichi did was necessary, but YA already put too much pressure on the students (and are also hypocrites because they supported Eichi?! The administration literally bullied those who lost during Drefes and had biases towards the winners), and knowing how gruesome japanese schools can be... Well, deaths happened. And it's a shame :( Edit: 5:24 and 6:20 You really can't blame the students for being lazy, as the academy itself let that happen. YA also didn't care at all about Eichi's rules. Eichi did a "coup d'état", but instead of it being against a government, it was against an academy that let it happen. At a normal school, if someone slacked off, they would get bad grades and such, sometimes even expelled, depending on the severity of the delinquency. Yumenosaki Academy did absolutely nothing, which is the reason why Eichi resorted to such unethical means. He knew that no one there, from students, to the employees, and the administration itself would rather blame everyone but themselves, so he resorted to straight up brute force, which is bad but situations like these happen in real life too. Also, we don't know where these students came from; some of them might come from more modest families and need the money that comes from YA's prestige to live properly. It's super complex
Also, about the Oddballs; I'm generally very skittish about labels, so, I'm surprised how the characters were very open to absorb the Five eccentrics label? Like, imagine someone going up to you and saying something like "hey, you're in this group now with crazy random people you don't know. Don't ask why we're calling you guys the 5 Oddballs or why you guys are together! Just take it!", like?! I initially thought that they were friends beforehand, and that the label was created to give popularity to said friend group, thus initiating the plan of, you know, fighting against the units that were associated with it and so on. But the fact that they went along with something so out of the blue? It's so confusing
A lot of what's in the slides (and therefore the video) was taken from the wiki, so it's more of a compilation of sorts. It isn't solely Eichi's fault (I just think the whole cute pictures of anime boy + this guy has done crime is very funny), which is why I said at the end that I didn't want people hating Eichi for it. A lot of factors were involved and at the end of the day it's just the lore of a real bizarre idol game
@@SheHulk-jg2jc Actually, this was somewhat mentioned in the Elements anime! The "label" sort of brought them together and then it became about supporting each other
@@cupcake_smoothie Yeah lol. The idea of a pretty man commiting very morally gray acts is hilarious, but a lot of ppl hate on him as if YA doesn't exist lol, but I think that's the writing's fault
thanks for explaining! *SPOILERS* not so fun fact: in a story flashback there is a scene where Yuuta talks Hinata out of jumping off a roof. Also, Madara dismantled the Shinkai c*lt, causing his family to disown him and hated by Shinkai :)
This is an amazing video I've an estarrie for almost 8 years and you did a really good job talking about this chaotic moment of the enstars lore. I hope this encourage new fans to read more about the war!! It's crazy how much some characters changed after the war and the Knights story makes me cry every time I read it :( kdkfdjskd
i want to give more insight into rei’s execution since until altered we had only crumbs and really just assumptions to go by… correct there was no live and instead he had just been exhausted from going overseas (among other things) to help yumenosaki’s sister schools interestingly enough this is three people’s faults: ritsu’s (black tea), eichi (black tea/element/altered), and rei himself (altered) have you ever wonder why none of the adults interfered during eichi’s rise to power as he changed the rules during this time period: rei well why didn’t the superstar rei sakuma sama chan stop eichi: he didn’t want too, and even ended up invested in how eichi’s script would end rei’s mindset even before the war was actually pretty bad, ritsu himself mentions seeing the same look that he saw in leo’s eyes during this time in rei’s… “even him who could do anything had already given up” the truth of the matter is that rei knew from the start, yes from his presidency to the very end, exactly how eichi felt towards him and wanted to use him specifically. he knew and in fact encouraged it, no one wanted rei sakuma of the eccentrics more subjugated than him: “like an old man preparing his grave…” he was exhausted from his life of constantly giving and helping those around him. he had planned his demise from the very start… however just like wataru he’d found something precious along the way to his “deathbed”… im sure you can all guess who. i ended up going more into detail than i wanted too hehe… last words but please read not only the reminisce stories but read altered as well as it’s sort of like closure for ex-fine and the oddballs… there’s someone who livetweeted/translated all of altered and another’s translation that i referenced for this comment as well if you want either just comment and i’ll hand it over willingly, thanks for listening to the little ramblings of a rei-p 🫶🏾
Damn you're more ReiP than me, thank you for this! Finding translations after the wiki stopped doing them has been really hard, so I don't know what happened in Altered besides Kanata's sad mom thing
@@cupcake_smoothie I think the most fucked up thing about Kanata's backstory is the fact he was lied to about his mother's death, and then finding out he was actually supposed to have gone with her.... the fact Kanata could forgive her, after being left behind, and forced to serve as a living god, let's just say he's far more kind than me, even if everything he went through brought him to Ryuseitai.
Whoa, thank you for the explanation. I just started playing Enstars!! for about two weeks and was confused as to why some ppl mentioned how Eichi is kinda the bad guy, when all I see in-game so far is just a.... normal guy (to me). Now I understand why Shu is so allergic to Eichi, even signed Valkyrie under Cos-Pro. Nevertheless, this story of the "past" breathes life and depth into Shu's character (whose card I picked blindly at the start) and now I intend to support him and Mika forevermore. Very amazingly done, Enstars writers.
Thank you for explaining the war and the characters, it can help many newbies understand more about the story of Ensemble Stars :D For anyone who wants to know more about the character's personality, the relationship between Eccentrics and exfine, you should read the Altered event story (part of the reason why Wataru joined the fine, why Rei didn't ruin the war when he could do it in the last performance of Eccentrics,...)
I've been playing enstars since it was just a basic card game game until now where they alr have rhythm game and global server of it. Tbh I rarely read the stories except the main story in engstars. I just love the characters and their music, but since enstarries twt (mostly meme stuff) kept appearing on my tl I started being curious about the story and lore behind those contents. They kept saying "the war" and the whole TW in Enstars lore, which peaked my curiousity even more. Gladly, I found ur video. Turns out... it's worse and way more absurd than I expected 😭 Very helpful video btw, tysm for ur explanation!
as someone who knows jack shit abt enstars other than it being a rhythm game and only clicked on the vid bcus of the absolutely INSANE title, in the words of our lord and gamer Berleezy, “What are we talking about❗️❗️”
Goodness me ! This is unbelievable and amazing! Will definitely recommend to newbies for a better understanding of the game :DDDDDD Plussssssssssssss it's incredible how good and extraordinary the whole plot isssss
THIS EXPLAINS SO MUCH! I never fully got into enstars, but I did watch a youtube video back when I was still into it saying everyone's problems and I was so incredible confused and concerned about half the cast having war trauma. This makes so much sense, since I thought it was talking about a legitimate war with weapons and tanks and everything. I'm glad that it wasn't that kind of war, but man that still sounds traumatizing.
Considering I haven’t been able to read the stories much this video is a very good summary on what the war is, I knew keito had a part in it but I didn’t realise how much he actually did
ENSTAR fans who defend Eichi by saying he’s misunderstood and nice are crazy. Doesn’t matter that he felt remorse blah blah blah. Also, do y’all know that in one of the latest story events or whatever, he literally tricked Tomoya into jumping off an airplane and wished he was dead💀☠️
hes misunderstood tho 😭 he did this for the school's good and because he wanted to be an idol before he dies. Other characters also have wished death on others but no one bats an eye
yea but he still did it like even if something is misunderstood it still gets consequences yknow, it's a different thing from "the fandom is singling out eichi"
I want to add i really dont believe shu has did or osdd, Shu is heavily implied to be autistic , its practically canon, while obviously he is fixated on dolls, this is a sorce of comfort, rather then having "split off a alter" after the war, which let me add would be an extremely incorrect example of any facet of DID, because the disorder can only be formed during early childhood, from extreme stress and trauma. I believe he uses Mado-nee as more of a catalyst to express his true emotions since he can't do it himself. She is not a independent identity but rather a hidden part of shu himself, of his personal emotions and feelings, manifested from kuroos mother, because she treated him kindly and gave him that freedom to express himself. As of recent, mado-nee has been fading out of the story as a result of Shu healing and learning to express himself better. If it was DID, mado-nee would not simply fade out. In all, i feel the fandom wiki highly scewed Shus character by taking natsumes words far too literally, which sometimes should not be taken at face value, similar to wataru. Of course everyone can have their interpretations, but i feel this specific thing is a fanon theory that tends to interfere with the look into shu's canonical character and relationships.
alters can actually integrate or front less which can (sometimes) come from the system healing and needing less fragments of their personality to handle the trauma so while Shus OSDD is inaccurate its not because of Madam not showing up as much. Also you cant form the disorder as an older teen but you can form a new alter or have them change from a traumatic event.
@@ronaldreaganhater69 true, but if read as the wiki implies, it simply states shu just formed the disorder at that point, theres no possible indication in the current story that he had such a thing as a child, rather that he has a hyper fixation on dolls and to the first part yes, i am aware of that, and i wont say that, that isn’t possible, but i just, don’t think its accurate at all to how mado is phasing out of the story, in the sense that again, mado is not a separate identity, but rather a way for shu to express his emotions, so now shu is being more open, without needing mado to express those emotions, rather then a trauma response, because to be quite honest even before the fall of ex Valkyrie, shu was absolutely inept at properly expressing his true feelings in crucial moments. I believe it is all linked to his autism, of course, people are free to interpret this as they wish.
@@Yu2fishh yeah it's not accurate to real life systems with how it's not linked to his childhood meaningfully. Personally I headcanon he has both but when it comes to the actual story I think the writer might just have fucked up the disorder rep when writing a system character. I've seen other media ignore the childhood trauma part while getting a lot of other stuff right too. I think that reading Shus story as autism instead is valid and an interesting perspective though! I don't think it's fair to call him being a system fanon though since we are told that in canon still and the inconsistencies are stuff that most ignorant writers would screw up, and we know that the enstars writers aren't the best with that in general. There's nothing to suggest that they are purposefully hinting it's not actually a system so far.
@@ronaldreaganhater69 yes i agree, again it is up to interpretation, but i will say whole heartedly believe the DID label is fanon, because, again, it is not properly implied or stated, while there is no direct message saying it isn’t, there is also next to no proper representation of the disorder itself either. Akira is, a questionable writer when it comes to mental disorders, disabilities, race, etc, so, with how he treats those things, if it hypothetically were to be canon, I believe that the way he portrays it would be a mockery of the disorder, similar to TOKO from danganronpa, again, everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion on this, but, it really is fanon, because it is not at all properly implied, and not stated. The autism angle is implied because shu has set realistic autistic traits, thats what makes the autism angle implied, and the DID angle simply a headcanon. Theres nothing wrong with that, but, as someone whos been playing enstars and producing valk since around 2018, and has read practically everything there is for shu, I just feel like it really has changed peoples perception of his character, and even how some (might i add very ignorant but still) people online in the fandom view DID itself, i think it would be better if people acknowledged the fact that the label is fanon, and that, even if it were canon, the representation is so so so poor, horrible, and downright ridiculous that it does nobody justice. This isnt the first time either, as the same occurrence happens with hitsugi and NEGI, taking fantasy plotlines, (or poorly just written) and then passing it off as real representation for real crippling mental disorders, is more of a romanticization, then representation. I am not saying its wrong to believe that shu has did, or to headcanon this, but, the way the current fandom passes it off as canon, some even putting it on a pedestal, is, a bit insensitive.
@@ronaldreaganhater69 i also want to add, though i do not like the reality of this, a lot of the characters traits play into fetishes, (ie mayoi, mika, Ibara) and shu is one of them, so there is a point where you have to step back and realize the buyers, and the sellers, the game was never meant to be properly representing or helping anyone, its a idol game, they put in what they think is maybe “alluring” or “sexy” and then go from there. Shu has many god so many issues in that department as well, its just not reliable.
The one time artists actually bother to make cute male character designs and it turns out to be fucked up…. WHY?! Why can’t there just be wholesome cute bois?
honestly i dont think the franchise would be as popular as it is if it had any less pathos, its part of the charm. theres a reason why things like sb69 and sanrio boys dont stick as hard w ppl
@@lesbirdie The pathos of Enstars is exactly what makes me love it so much. All the characters are so nuanced and detailed with hopes and traumas, and it makes them very interesting to see. Honestly, I started Enstars and Project Sekai at the same time looking for a rhythm game. I dropped Sekai purely because all the characters lacked in interest and pathos imo. (Also the cute animeboy+war crime combo is always funny.)
Ensemble Stars is written by Akira, a novel author who is known for writting dark (and often problematic) themes, he is originally the writer for Ensemble Girls (Enstars' sister game), Engirls story/lore is even darker than Enstars, there's this scene of one of the girls beating another girl's head using guitar
Oh and btw Anzu was originally an NPC in Engirls, she was a student in Kimisaki Gakuen (the school where the setting of Engirls is in), she was bullied by the other girls there and had to be kicked out by the teachers (yes, the teachers were gaslighted by their own students who play victim card) and they punished her by sending her to all-boys high school that was Yumenosaki Gakuen
As someone who loves the war era I love how much details were in this video and it really took me by surprise about watarus execution & Kanatas. Really love this video!
Their actions were the cause of many students bullying suicide and trauma. Eichi will never be redeemed and the other two won’t be fully clean neither. Anyways thanks for making this video I finally know what actually happened in the war! ^^
thank you for this video. I'm looking up enstars video essay and this came up. I'm an enstarrie for 3 months now, and also watched the anime for the first month of being an enstarrie. There are a lot of enstars lore that i have yet to discover, and although the anime covered some of it, i feel like im missing out a lot (enstar basic doesn't have a tl and i can't find a proper translation of the game in Yumenosaki times lol). I'm only 6 minutes in the video and i love the summarization so far.
this is so amazing!! i personally had trouble trying to find out about the lore & this was so well made and easy to understand! i hope uou make more lore vids ab enstars ^_^
Thanks for the video! I’m still new and didn’t understand what happen or some of it but your explanation is so well. I didn’t know about this. Now I know the lore omg.
Hahaha thanks! So THAT'S where the Discord stats are coming from. Whenever I look at my analytics I'm always like whose DMs am I in?? Jokes aside, I really appreciate it! I'm glad you liked the video
I did have an entire long reply to this stating why the war happening is narratively important but it deals more with Kanata and will make no sense outside the Meteor Impact narrative but all I will say is that in Meteor Impact, the war shows us two things that are extremely important which is summed up in Kanata's execution, although the students are heavily affected even prior to that moment. I also want to point out that outside of Meteor Impact, there is an explicit reason behind why Kanata's execution is never mentioned at all in narrative post war., although Keito makes extremely vague af references to it in Submarine. If anyone wants me to go off on an unrelated to Eichi and the war tangent, please let me know as Kanata and Mayoi are two of my favorite characters to spout lore about.
New RUclips rules, so now I can't have external links in descriptions, anyway. docs.google.com/presentation/d/11viN8AfCsrLEr3SaqoaaPjaj4oOYkPA1yjjK27qfv6Q/edit?usp=sharing The link to these slides ensemble-stars.fandom.com/wiki/The_War?so=search The English Ensemble Stars wiki page about the War. Most of the things in this video were copied from there word for word You can use the Wayback Machine to read most of the Ensemble Stars! stories, that have since been removed from the wiki because of copyright reasons
Eichi actually do have a good intentions, but a rather morally wrong executions and too high standards. He wanted Idols, who he loved from his childhood, to be impressive enough so that the audience is happy. Well...past is past and Eichi did feel bad, so...i cant hate him. He's still my fav...
Ayyy funny you say that lol. I'm working on a video explaining the reminiscence stories like rn. It's way more pain cause 1. I haven't read most of them and 2. No one else (that I know of) has summarised it, so I gotta. I'm halfway reading Crossroads for the first time and woooow this is gonna talk a while to summarise/explain. Someone else is welcome to do that in these comments tho
Checkmate is fun to read tbh.... If ya want a quick summarized here ya go; So, Eichi make a plan for this "revolution" or as we know "war" with Tsumugi and Keito (but he didn't appear in Checkmate only mentioned). In Checkmate, is where he started his planned to create a unit named "5 eccentric" (Eichi do this secretly and Tsumugi is too oblivious to realize his sceme.) Knights didn't exist yet instead a big unit name Chess. But all the students are lazy except Leo and Sena. Eichi took advantage of Leo's naivety and started the "war". He use Chess as an experiment to see if he can make a battle between other units. Since all of his unitmates wanted his song only, that's where Chess split up. Hence, this is where "Knights" rise. Sena already met Ritsu and Arashi that time, so it's easier for them to fight. Leo keep writing song until he broke down (like literally) (there's 2 ep I think a quick flashback in Next Door event). If am not wrong, it's because all of his haters came in their performance and overthrown Knights while yelling out "Checkmate!". Their performance declining rapidly afterward along with Leo's mentality (that why Leo sometimes act crazy). He locked himself in his room and force himself to write even though he couldn't. Sena also mentioned that Leo keep apologizing to him and stab his hand with a pen, then bite his hand until bleeding, forcing himself to continue writing song. And that's all for now I guess, that is long lmao.... But that is the "quickest" explanation I can give. I love angst so much, it really fun to read. ;)
@@dorimikizup Meteor Impact is more than just Chiaki and Kanata, so the easiest way to disection it is basiclly Ryuseitai members, Akatsuki Members, War, and Eccentrics; mostly because the war took place over eight months, and there are several other stories in narrative, that also took place during this time period (Crossroads, Checkmate, Marionette, and Element, being the big four, but by no means the only ones.) Through in Madara's convoluted backstory alongside Kanata and you have a menu for a really fucked up time.
Where of the other Characters during the war? (The exception is The Akatsuki Members,Undead Members,5 Oddballs,Ex-Fine and Knights) (Example Characters i meant meant: Trickstar,Yuzuru,Tori,Ibara,Jun,Mitsuru,Hajime,Etc)
Yuzuru wasn't present in yumenosaki during the war era, but regularly attended ex-fine's live shows, since Tori was a fan of Eichi, and transferred to it during his second year, which is around the same time as Anzu did.
@@narciatori what about Trickstars,Ibara,Jun,Tomoya,Hajime,Sora,Tsukasa,Shinobu,Tetora,Midori and the other Character that didn't appear in the war Era,Elements,Crossroad and Checkmate Series?
@@davianananttaliem1660 Trickstar doesn't form until after the war, although all it's memebers would have been first years during it. For Ibara, Jun, Hiyori, and Nagisa, it's just easier to read Obbligato. Hajime Tomoya, Sora, Tsukasa, Tetora, Midori, and Shinobu wouldn't attend until after the war.... same with Yuzuru and Tori. 2wink also attended YA after the war, Shu and Mika technically still were at YA, but didn't actually attend classes and performed at underground live houses (the one we see them come out of in the anime is actually Crossroads), but eventually they return after some prodding by Eichi and their comeback during the Tanabata Fes. Switch is formed just prior to the Tanabata Festival which is interesting if you watch the OG anime because their debut live happened during Tanabata Fes pt1. Not 100% sure about Knights, but yeah, a third of the cast wasn't even around during the war so it's insane. I think the most messed up lore about YA comes in !! 1.5 and that is learning who was actually running the school.
A lot of the teachers were apathetic or didn't care either. They were there, but had the same attitude as most of the students. That's why finding out Akiomi is the faculty advisor for the Student Council was insane to me. Whether it was before the war or after, not 100% clear on that
@@cupcake_smoothie oh I would like to ask whether tsukasa was able to know what happened to leo and izumi? Because I heard that something happened to leo because of eichi during the war
As Tsukasa attened as a first year after the war, I think it was mentioned that he was told stories about Leo, but what specifically he was told is really unknown. We just know he has always looked up to Knights, and after he became leader of the unit, I have no doubt he had to know at least his unit's backstory.
How to read the stories in the wiki? I'm getting frustrated because i am so interested on what happened but i can't access or press the episodes and read them!?
They had to be removed due to copyright, so most of the new stories cannot be read on the wiki, however, you can use the Wayback Machine to read about The War, and most ! stories.
I know this video was a long while ago, but where can I watch the anime? I've been trying to look for it but I can't really find it. To add on, do you know where I can find additional info about the characters? If not its okay
You can watch it on the official RUclips channel! They're releasing a new season soon, actually. You can also check out the Fandom wiki for more info on the characters!
ruclips.net/p/PL5wEQ3YUNbnBHtrbn-gLh2YM95QM0Un6u&si=_m42Q9Tl8L5BbZh2 Here's the playlist! Someone on Twitter added subtitles too, but I don't really remember who
i havent watched the vid yet but can someone PLEASE explain where this info is coming from😭? like where does the war happen? is it an event in the game? i know its in the anime but wheres this extra info coming from? like i don’t remember anyone committing suic!de
I got the info from the Enstars wiki, but all of this happens in the first game, which only has a Japanese server. It's part of the Reminiscence events but if I'm not mistaken you can still read them
@@cupcake_smoothie oh now it makes sense. however i don’t really understand people opposing eichi too much😭 like i completely agree that the fact that he used 5 people as stepping stools is terrible, but that aside, if he didnt reform the school, would that not just mean that students from yumenosaki would fail in the future? by making them work hard, at least now some of them have talent or are not on the path of being immediately rejected from future jobs. although some su!cided because of this system, i believe even more student wouldve su!cided in the future as a result of being failures + yumensaki’s reputation wouldve plummeted even more. so, in a sense, eichi also prevented lives from being destroyed, more so than if he werent here at all. its like, either way there would be people who were bound to fail, but at least this way, the percentage is lower. am i getting that right or did i miss something? thats why although the steps he took aren’t completely justifiable, i think people discredit him too much and overlook the realistic ideology
@@iquit1044 Yeah, you're not wrong. While a lot of people don't like Eichi for what he did he definitely did have good intentions. He was just a kid too. But it's the internet, so a lot of people view things very black and white
@@cupcake_smoothie true, but i still think its wrong for people to say hes the cause of peoples de3th. like many more wouldve died if it werent for his plan. eichi is a very well written character, i really despise it when others just see “good” or “bad” without understanding the depths behind ones actions, whether theyre justifiable or not. youre considerate though!
@@cupcake_smoothie Eichi's guilt also carries over to his creating ES for similar reasons as in the Tempest event, he second guesses if making ES was the right thing to do as he tramples the dreams of others in order to achieve his own. However, it's Wataru who says to him, if Eichi doesn't keep moving forward, he would have trampled those people for nothing (an obvious war reference here, given Wataru is one of the five eccentrics).
It's in the comments (which I can't pin for the same reason the link is cut off), but here docs.google.com/presentation/d/11viN8AfCsrLEr3SaqoaaPjaj4oOYkPA1yjjK27qfv6Q/edit?usp=sharing
Not even an enstarrie and never will be one but im just going to say this once: what the fuck is happening in this game i thougjt this was a normal idol game 😭
... Ya I still dont trust Eichii, although he is "fine" in the sequel, just sussy as always like dude you taking 3 episodes to announce that v w x y z people are under-achievers and then 3 more to explain what your possible solution is- Great writting, which is why I cannot handle being in the same room as him for long! Nah, Tori annoys me more honestly. Because he is a gremlin -_- ... and I really... really need to find out tue whole background on Izumi cuz GOOD LORD did the anime not provide enough for me to somehow empathise since his attitude is also so...so annoying. GIVE ME A REASON TO LOVE HIM!!! 😅
I FEEL THIS WITH MY ENTIRE SOUL. I use to hate Izumi and then shrimpy boy decided to have music era character development and now I am KnightsP because of him ~_~ XD (I also blame Road to Show XD) And yeah, Izumi 'is' annoying as hell, but you do come to understand his character more through Knights Events in !! era
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I have been looking at the slides while the video is playing. But Holy F?! Eichi is a first year (15) when he implemented a competition system which gave an indirect massacre!
I believe he was a second year, actually…? Since the war was the year before !, when Eichi was a third year.
It's 2nd year he's attend school early cause his birthday on January
I have been in this fandom for like a week, two at most
I munched on the lore at a record speed, working my *ss off to understand how this idol school works, only to find out that there are vampires, maybe time travel and a whole lot of trauma
And that Eichi committed war crimes. I did not know what that meant until now. On the completely 180 turn, I have started to like Eichi more after this video, thank you!
Though, Sakuma brothers arent really vampires, they just have this rare conditions (illness) that makes them weak to sunlight, like vampires
remember the people in the audience during kanatas execution were practically chanting to kill him in a “bloodthirsty frenzy” and the war ruined
his relationship with madara in a similar way as the sakuma brothers
and souma was ordered to kill him if kanata ever started ”going mad” or “defying” his position. we can thank madara for dismantling the entire religion
@@ouwkaiiomfg which story is this from?
Tf i need to read it please op what storyyyyy
@@hellochako It's ! era Ryusteitai Chiaki flashback story called "Meteor Impact". But good lord, please read it a few times if you do because there is a lot to unpack and it haunts future narrative like you wouldn't believe.
@@ouwkaii actually, Souma's position in relation to Kanata is more complicated than that, due to their shared ancient history, but the order to kill god is actually something that has been passed down in his family, generation to generation since ancient times, and the occurrence of the first Meteor Impact.
Madara wasn't the one who dismantled the religion, it was Kanata, but he did help in doing so.
Also, the blood thirsty frenzy? Oh man is it insane what actually causes it and Kanata actually gives us hints as to what it was in part two of the Meteor Impact narrative. This will also become insanely lore relevant to Mayoi as well.
SOMEONE FINALLY EXPLAINED THE WAR!!! Absolutely great video man, explained the war and every character perfectly! This would have been draining for me to write this so I’m genuinely impressed with this
Thanks!
"i hope people dont come out of this video hating the group that irreparably damaged the mental psyche of 5 kids cause they were feeling their fascist-dictator egos as WELL as caused a mass of executions for the student body" In real life this group would be in jail, the school would by bulldozed down and idols would've simply ended as a usable concept cause there aint no way youre gonna put a grave next a school and think thats the end of it.
the sheer size of this travesty and how every family of every victim would be affect and have motive to personally get involved to end this, no parent is sending their kid to a school where they have a grave for all the kids would suicided IN A YEAR there.
AND you know this school was filled with wealthy ass kids, those kinda families wouldve actually had that evil ass group "executed" on stage. by burning at the stake like the witches they are hello!?!?
Something something godfather
You're assuming that fine was directly causing their deaths, which isn't true. Even in narrative it was stated as being an unforseen and unfortunate occurrence of the reformation.
@@saioutakuma you're very okay with evil cute guys I know that about you. You don't have to try to explain how a reformation would naturally cause a full graveyard of students to pop up next to a school that houses the three generic Hitler heads of the verse, nobody would take you seriously anyways.
BRO ?? WHAT?? hello0 ??? excuse me ?? i htought this game was all "happy!" "music!" "woohoo!" "let's do this!" BUT WHAT?? i cant comprehend this games utter darkness .. this hits deep
@@jumgkoo3079 It's a running joke that Akira the lead writer for the game desperately wants to write mystery thrillers (which he has done before), but he doesn't want to leave Enstars. And so, you got these bewildering events and dialogues. Also Happyele probably had him chained into an office chair somewhere because his writings are sometimes so erratic and out of pocket I wonder if it's due to stress
I mean, there are allusions that Wataru's hair is alive and he is the Second Coming of Christ. There's a theory that Koga is an actual werewolf and he uses rock and roll to channel his anger every full moon. Another wild theory is that Adonis is already dead, and he is actually a ghoul that feasts on human flesh. And don't forget of course about how Godfather may have summoned the soul of God Himself and implant it into Nagisa
Enstars is wild man
Oh and the lore is just going to keep getting darker I feel like
eichi is my little skrunclkyl he was just feeling silly
real
so true
as an enstar player who is into lore (but barely reads and dont have the time to read 😓) this is sooo helpful and gave me more infos and understand it more
Same I play ensemble stars music and played it for the music but I was always somewhat curious about the lore but I mainly didn't want the characters being ruined for me 😅
I find it weird that Eichi is the only character that was explicitly mentioned to feel remorse over The War, yet he gets a lot of hate.
Yeah, Keito and Tsumugi do have some haters, but Eichi is by far the least popular
yeah, i was super confused by that when i got into enstars too since eichi deeply regretted it while the other two felt almost no remorse…?
@@dghsdjk44 to be fair, they vowed to never do something of that scale ever again.
I'm pretty new to the fandom and haven't had the chance to read a ton of stories yet but.
Eichi's actions during the War are pretty excusable, a complicated situation and he was honestly trying to reach the 'best outcome'. It's fine, complicated character with a good heart... But the story Milky Way/Fall of a Great Star is something that I don't think I can forgive him for. ='l
Spoilers for it- This happens around a few months after DDD. After fine destroyed Valkyrie, Shu went into a depressive state for around 6 months. Finally they've recovered enough to start holding tiny lives, hidden away and outside of the school and the DreFes system because of trauma and the system being against them. Eichi hunts them down after one of these and gives a Horrible speech/ultimatum to force them to compete against fine (a second time= Trauma) or he will have AKATSUKI murder Nazuna and the cute little first-year bunnies that he adopted. The story ends with fine winning (because the DreFes is biased) and the last scene is just Eichi being entranced and inspired by Valkyrie's performance- zero regrets or second thoughts.
Seriously, there is no way that Eichi didn't know what that first battle did to Shu Itsuki, the first Eccentric sacrificed to the War, the Eccentric who used to rule the school- who immediately stopped going to school and faded away into nothing after the War began with his defeat. The War was over, things were better now, and Eichi went and targeted Valkyrie after they had barely pulled themselves together again Just so that he and fine 2.0 could win against them. Eichi's speech antagonizing Shu is Sooo over the line- "Let us make meat pies out of rabbit flesh" (Fan translated but relatively accurate)
He is a pretty great Character, but he is also a Terrible person happy to do and say messed up stuff purely for his own benefit, regardless of the impact on others. I do enjoy Eichi and his shenanigans' but he is just Not a good person. =P
@@StarNinja77 I just reread the stories translation and I think I understand why Eichi did what he did to Shu its because among the 5 eccentrics, he hurtNatsume, only 3 remained and continued to live their lives, shinkai+ryusetai, rei+undead,Shu and wataru+fine,, meanwhile Shu and Natsume refused to, Shu rebels and did not show himself in public stage only on underground music while Natsume is not showing himself, and we all know Eichi loves idols that his willing to hurt someone and be the villain as long as the idol industry thrives and if we say idol, Eichi actually idolize the 5 eccentrics for him their talent is what an idol should be that's why he chose them as the 5 eccentrics a being dominating the Yumenosaki academy that everyone should aspire to overcome uhhhm...(eliminate), but we all know the result, it's bad, buuut~~~ he repented already, especially when he and Tsumugi separated. from what I've read to support Ryusetai his been secretly giving the small jobs that fit their unit, Wataru is with him, and I'm not sure about his love and hate relationship with Rei. sooooooooo after the trickstar revolution/DDD Yumenosaki academy changes, units known and unknown is slowly revitalizing themselves except for Valkyrie and Natsume so for Valkyrie, in order not to waste their talent Eichi blackmails Shu, not just once though haha...😓😭 first is when he blackmails them in ruining rabbits so Shu shows himself in public media again and that's when Eichi+Fine was slap hard that Valkyrie was indeed the top unit talent-wise in Yumenosaki thus the scene where Eichi is admiring Shu, the second is.. I'm not clear I think Eichi blackmailed Shu again into not giving funds to Valkyrie for the lack of participation in official events thus Shu was forced to do live and since then he started doing lives again. while regarding Natsume+switch I think Eichi found out from Tsumugi that Natsume is having a hard time choosing to be future teller or idol thus he asks mao+trickstar to help Switch (i think the event story is titled three magicians) and in Natsumes monologue, he said that he understands why Rei and Wataru did not approve his plan and let themselves be the sacrifices, because he now understands that Eichis plan was actually the fastest and least destructive way in savIng Yumenosaki or the only plan that can save Yumenosaki since then switch was continuously participating lives and events and Eichi was happy with the current statuses. I just hope he lessens being aggressive and socially emotionless though my heart still aches for those babies hurt😞
I know Eichi started a whole war, but wasn't Yumenosaki Academy responsible for enabling Eichi to do that? Yumenosaki Academy literally neglected its students; the lack of care towards them was so severe that, not only did it enable students to simply to leech onto the academy's reputation, but it also permitted a very toxic environment to grow, one where students forced eachother into a strict hierarchy in which everyone fought each other like starving dogs, like how Jun said himself that people were bullied in YA if they lost their reputation, and the administration didn't do anything about it. Because YA is super famous and because there is probably some kind of mafia behind all of this (the godfather I suppose), the police would've done nothing about it, even though reporting YA for student neglect was the right thing to do. Unfortunately, the war was one of the solutions possible, and what Eichi did was necessary, but YA already put too much pressure on the students (and are also hypocrites because they supported Eichi?! The administration literally bullied those who lost during Drefes and had biases towards the winners), and knowing how gruesome japanese schools can be... Well, deaths happened. And it's a shame :(
Edit: 5:24 and 6:20 You really can't blame the students for being lazy, as the academy itself let that happen. YA also didn't care at all about Eichi's rules. Eichi did a "coup d'état", but instead of it being against a government, it was against an academy that let it happen. At a normal school, if someone slacked off, they would get bad grades and such, sometimes even expelled, depending on the severity of the delinquency. Yumenosaki Academy did absolutely nothing, which is the reason why Eichi resorted to such unethical means. He knew that no one there, from students, to the employees, and the administration itself would rather blame everyone but themselves, so he resorted to straight up brute force, which is bad but situations like these happen in real life too. Also, we don't know where these students came from; some of them might come from more modest families and need the money that comes from YA's prestige to live properly. It's super complex
Also, about the Oddballs;
I'm generally very skittish about labels, so, I'm surprised how the characters were very open to absorb the Five eccentrics label? Like, imagine someone going up to you and saying something like "hey, you're in this group now with crazy random people you don't know. Don't ask why we're calling you guys the 5 Oddballs or why you guys are together! Just take it!", like?!
I initially thought that they were friends beforehand, and that the label was created to give popularity to said friend group, thus initiating the plan of, you know, fighting against the units that were associated with it and so on. But the fact that they went along with something so out of the blue? It's so confusing
I think that Eichi snapped. That's why he was so cruel to the 5 eccentrics
A lot of what's in the slides (and therefore the video) was taken from the wiki, so it's more of a compilation of sorts. It isn't solely Eichi's fault (I just think the whole cute pictures of anime boy + this guy has done crime is very funny), which is why I said at the end that I didn't want people hating Eichi for it. A lot of factors were involved and at the end of the day it's just the lore of a real bizarre idol game
@@SheHulk-jg2jc Actually, this was somewhat mentioned in the Elements anime! The "label" sort of brought them together and then it became about supporting each other
@@cupcake_smoothie Yeah lol. The idea of a pretty man commiting very morally gray acts is hilarious, but a lot of ppl hate on him as if YA doesn't exist lol, but I think that's the writing's fault
for some reason when I first heard about "the war" I thought about an actual war involving guns and stuff like that for some reason 😂
Well, there are in music(!!) now lol. The current DF event in jp
Yeah I imagined a Danganronpa situation
thanks for explaining!
*SPOILERS*
not so fun fact: in a story flashback there is a scene where Yuuta talks Hinata out of jumping off a roof.
Also, Madara dismantled the Shinkai c*lt, causing his family to disown him and hated by Shinkai :)
Ooh yeah I remember these, Meteor Impact is THE story when you wanna talk about insane Enstars lore
This is an amazing video I've an estarrie for almost 8 years and you did a really good job talking about this chaotic moment of the enstars lore. I hope this encourage new fans to read more about the war!! It's crazy how much some characters changed after the war and the Knights story makes me cry every time I read it :( kdkfdjskd
i want to give more insight into rei’s execution since until altered we had only crumbs and really just assumptions to go by…
correct there was no live and instead he had just been exhausted from going overseas (among other things) to help yumenosaki’s sister schools interestingly enough this is three people’s faults: ritsu’s (black tea), eichi (black tea/element/altered), and rei himself (altered)
have you ever wonder why none of the adults interfered during eichi’s rise to power as he changed the rules during this time period: rei
well why didn’t the superstar rei sakuma sama chan stop eichi: he didn’t want too, and even ended up invested in how eichi’s script would end
rei’s mindset even before the war was actually pretty bad, ritsu himself mentions seeing the same look that he saw in leo’s eyes during this time in rei’s… “even him who could do anything had already given up”
the truth of the matter is that rei knew from the start, yes from his presidency to the very end, exactly how eichi felt towards him and wanted to use him specifically. he knew and in fact encouraged it, no one wanted rei sakuma of the eccentrics more subjugated than him: “like an old man preparing his grave…” he was exhausted from his life of constantly giving and helping those around him. he had planned his demise from the very start… however just like wataru he’d found something precious along the way to his “deathbed”… im sure you can all guess who.
i ended up going more into detail than i wanted too hehe… last words but please read not only the reminisce stories but read altered as well as it’s sort of like closure for ex-fine and the oddballs… there’s someone who livetweeted/translated all of altered and another’s translation that i referenced for this comment as well if you want either just comment and i’ll hand it over willingly, thanks for listening to the little ramblings of a rei-p 🫶🏾
Damn you're more ReiP than me, thank you for this! Finding translations after the wiki stopped doing them has been really hard, so I don't know what happened in Altered besides Kanata's sad mom thing
@@cupcake_smoothie I think the most fucked up thing about Kanata's backstory is the fact he was lied to about his mother's death, and then finding out he was actually supposed to have gone with her.... the fact Kanata could forgive her, after being left behind, and forced to serve as a living god, let's just say he's far more kind than me, even if everything he went through brought him to Ryuseitai.
Whoa, thank you for the explanation. I just started playing Enstars!! for about two weeks and was confused as to why some ppl mentioned how Eichi is kinda the bad guy, when all I see in-game so far is just a.... normal guy (to me).
Now I understand why Shu is so allergic to Eichi, even signed Valkyrie under Cos-Pro. Nevertheless, this story of the "past" breathes life and depth into Shu's character (whose card I picked blindly at the start) and now I intend to support him and Mika forevermore. Very amazingly done, Enstars writers.
Thank you for explaining the war and the characters, it can help many newbies understand more about the story of Ensemble Stars :D
For anyone who wants to know more about the character's personality, the relationship between Eccentrics and exfine, you should read the Altered event story (part of the reason why Wataru joined the fine, why Rei didn't ruin the war when he could do it in the last performance of Eccentrics,...)
Love how straightforward this one is.
I thought this was supposed to be just a male idol group?! Wtf?!
Oh yeah, all the characters are all little shits, and the overall lore is dark af
I've been playing enstars since it was just a basic card game game until now where they alr have rhythm game and global server of it. Tbh I rarely read the stories except the main story in engstars. I just love the characters and their music, but since enstarries twt (mostly meme stuff) kept appearing on my tl I started being curious about the story and lore behind those contents. They kept saying "the war" and the whole TW in Enstars lore, which peaked my curiousity even more. Gladly, I found ur video. Turns out... it's worse and way more absurd than I expected 😭
Very helpful video btw, tysm for ur explanation!
as someone who knows jack shit abt enstars other than it being a rhythm game and only clicked on the vid bcus of the absolutely INSANE title, in the words of our lord and gamer Berleezy,
“What are we talking about❗️❗️”
Goodness me ! This is unbelievable and amazing! Will definitely recommend to newbies for a better understanding of the game :DDDDDD
Plussssssssssssss it's incredible how good and extraordinary the whole plot isssss
THIS WAS ACTUALLY REAL HELPFUL, SINCE IT WAS KINDA CHAOTIC AND I DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT FULLY. AAA THANKS
THIS EXPLAINS SO MUCH! I never fully got into enstars, but I did watch a youtube video back when I was still into it saying everyone's problems and I was so incredible confused and concerned about half the cast having war trauma. This makes so much sense, since I thought it was talking about a legitimate war with weapons and tanks and everything. I'm glad that it wasn't that kind of war, but man that still sounds traumatizing.
Yeah, people always think of guns and stuff when thinking of war but nah they're just slightly dramatic
Considering I haven’t been able to read the stories much this video is a very good summary on what the war is, I knew keito had a part in it but I didn’t realise how much he actually did
Ah yes...corruption, murder, suicides, mafias, cults. I never knew Ensemble Stars is a realistic music industry simulator
whoa, this was amazing. i never knew this lurked behind the cute appeal of enstars. its lore is deep
thank you, this is awesome
ENSTAR fans who defend Eichi by saying he’s misunderstood and nice are crazy. Doesn’t matter that he felt remorse blah blah blah. Also, do y’all know that in one of the latest story events or whatever, he literally tricked Tomoya into jumping off an airplane and wished he was dead💀☠️
hes misunderstood tho 😭 he did this for the school's good and because he wanted to be an idol before he dies. Other characters also have wished death on others but no one bats an eye
yea but he still did it like even if something is misunderstood it still gets consequences yknow, it's a different thing from "the fandom is singling out eichi"
@@obbl1gato yes but you forget Eichi is nobility. His actions have heavier weight than anyone else,, regardless of the intent behind his actions
I want to add i really dont believe shu has did or osdd, Shu is heavily implied to be autistic , its practically canon, while obviously he is fixated on dolls, this is a sorce of comfort, rather then having "split off a alter" after the war, which let me add would be an extremely incorrect example of any facet of DID, because the disorder can only be formed during early childhood, from extreme stress and trauma. I believe he uses Mado-nee as more of a catalyst to express his true emotions since he can't do it himself. She is not a independent identity but rather a hidden part of shu himself, of his personal emotions and feelings, manifested from kuroos mother, because she treated him kindly and gave him that freedom to express himself. As of recent, mado-nee has been fading out of the story as a result of Shu healing and learning to express himself better. If it was DID, mado-nee would not simply fade out. In all, i feel the fandom wiki highly scewed Shus character by taking natsumes words far too literally, which sometimes should not be taken at face value, similar to wataru. Of course everyone can have their interpretations, but i feel this specific thing is a fanon theory that tends to interfere with the look into shu's canonical character and relationships.
alters can actually integrate or front less which can (sometimes) come from the system healing and needing less fragments of their personality to handle the trauma so while Shus OSDD is inaccurate its not because of Madam not showing up as much. Also you cant form the disorder as an older teen but you can form a new alter or have them change from a traumatic event.
@@ronaldreaganhater69 true, but if read as the wiki implies, it simply states shu just formed the disorder at that point, theres no possible indication in the current story that he had such a thing as a child, rather that he has a hyper fixation on dolls and to the first part yes, i am aware of that, and i wont say that, that isn’t possible, but i just, don’t think its accurate at all to how mado is phasing out of the story, in the sense that again, mado is not a separate identity, but rather a way for shu to express his emotions, so now shu is being more open, without needing mado to express those emotions, rather then a trauma response, because to be quite honest even before the fall of ex Valkyrie, shu was absolutely inept at properly expressing his true feelings in crucial moments. I believe it is all linked to his autism, of course, people are free to interpret this as they wish.
@@Yu2fishh yeah it's not accurate to real life systems with how it's not linked to his childhood meaningfully. Personally I headcanon he has both but when it comes to the actual story I think the writer might just have fucked up the disorder rep when writing a system character. I've seen other media ignore the childhood trauma part while getting a lot of other stuff right too. I think that reading Shus story as autism instead is valid and an interesting perspective though! I don't think it's fair to call him being a system fanon though since we are told that in canon still and the inconsistencies are stuff that most ignorant writers would screw up, and we know that the enstars writers aren't the best with that in general. There's nothing to suggest that they are purposefully hinting it's not actually a system so far.
@@ronaldreaganhater69 yes i agree, again it is up to interpretation, but i will say whole heartedly believe the DID label is fanon, because, again, it is not properly implied or stated, while there is no direct message saying it isn’t, there is also next to no proper representation of the disorder itself either. Akira is, a questionable writer when it comes to mental disorders, disabilities, race, etc, so, with how he treats those things, if it hypothetically were to be canon, I believe that the way he portrays it would be a mockery of the disorder, similar to TOKO from danganronpa, again, everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion on this, but, it really is fanon, because it is not at all properly implied, and not stated. The autism angle is implied because shu has set realistic autistic traits, thats what makes the autism angle implied, and the DID angle simply a headcanon. Theres nothing wrong with that, but, as someone whos been playing enstars and producing valk since around 2018, and has read practically everything there is for shu, I just feel like it really has changed peoples perception of his character, and even how some (might i add very ignorant but still) people online in the fandom view DID itself, i think it would be better if people acknowledged the fact that the label is fanon, and that, even if it were canon, the representation is so so so poor, horrible, and downright ridiculous that it does nobody justice. This isnt the first time either, as the same occurrence happens with hitsugi and NEGI, taking fantasy plotlines, (or poorly just written) and then passing it off as real representation for real crippling mental disorders, is more of a romanticization, then representation. I am not saying its wrong to believe that shu has did, or to headcanon this, but, the way the current fandom passes it off as canon, some even putting it on a pedestal, is, a bit insensitive.
@@ronaldreaganhater69 i also want to add, though i do not like the reality of this, a lot of the characters traits play into fetishes, (ie mayoi, mika, Ibara) and shu is one of them, so there is a point where you have to step back and realize the buyers, and the sellers, the game was never meant to be properly representing or helping anyone, its a idol game, they put in what they think is maybe “alluring” or “sexy” and then go from there. Shu has many god so many issues in that department as well, its just not reliable.
The one time artists actually bother to make cute male character designs and it turns out to be fucked up…. WHY?! Why can’t there just be wholesome cute bois?
honestly i dont think the franchise would be as popular as it is if it had any less pathos, its part of the charm. theres a reason why things like sb69 and sanrio boys dont stick as hard w ppl
@@lesbirdie The pathos of Enstars is exactly what makes me love it so much. All the characters are so nuanced and detailed with hopes and traumas, and it makes them very interesting to see. Honestly, I started Enstars and Project Sekai at the same time looking for a rhythm game. I dropped Sekai purely because all the characters lacked in interest and pathos imo. (Also the cute animeboy+war crime combo is always funny.)
Ensemble Stars is written by Akira, a novel author who is known for writting dark (and often problematic) themes, he is originally the writer for Ensemble Girls (Enstars' sister game), Engirls story/lore is even darker than Enstars, there's this scene of one of the girls beating another girl's head using guitar
Oh and btw Anzu was originally an NPC in Engirls, she was a student in Kimisaki Gakuen (the school where the setting of Engirls is in), she was bullied by the other girls there and had to be kicked out by the teachers (yes, the teachers were gaslighted by their own students who play victim card) and they punished her by sending her to all-boys high school that was Yumenosaki Gakuen
As someone who loves the war era I love how much details were in this video and it really took me by surprise about watarus execution & Kanatas. Really love this video!
The fact I know you from reddit and I read those slides it's so funny to see how many people also liked this slides
im not gonna lie, i know absolutely NOTHING about enstars so i was not expecting the first 12 seconds of this video lmao
YES! That's always my favourite part. Quite literally the reason I made these slides was just so I could have that at the ready
This dude literally just sounds like a blonde version of Komeda from DR with slightly less explicit murderous impulses
The usage of that Shu image at 4:04 made me giggle
Yeah, I wanted to get pictures of them during the war era and that one was one of them
@@cupcake_smoothie i thought that was when she was getting mad at ryuseitai for being bad at cooking
@@dorimikizup yea that was when he was scolding ryuseitai during chocofes, not war era
idol related animes or games always have deep lore
Their actions were the cause of many students bullying suicide and trauma. Eichi will never be redeemed and the other two won’t be fully clean neither.
Anyways thanks for making this video I finally know what actually happened in the war! ^^
thank you for this video. I'm looking up enstars video essay and this came up. I'm an enstarrie for 3 months now, and also watched the anime for the first month of being an enstarrie. There are a lot of enstars lore that i have yet to discover, and although the anime covered some of it, i feel like im missing out a lot (enstar basic doesn't have a tl and i can't find a proper translation of the game in Yumenosaki times lol). I'm only 6 minutes in the video and i love the summarization so far.
I appreciate you bc I've been into enstars since en beta but was not reading this whole wiki lol
this is so amazing!! i personally had trouble trying to find out about the lore & this was so well made and easy to understand! i hope uou make more lore vids ab enstars ^_^
Thank you! I'm glad you found it helpful
Thanks for the video! I’m still new and didn’t understand what happen or some of it but your explanation is so well. I didn’t know about this. Now I know the lore omg.
THANK YOU!!! I really needed this 😭💕 You did a very good job explaining it!
Thank you! I'm glad me reading off the slides was at least helpful
this genuinely made me wanna get back into enstars again fck
Ty so much for this ive sent it to three people already (new to Enstars) 🎉❤
Hahaha thanks! So THAT'S where the Discord stats are coming from. Whenever I look at my analytics I'm always like whose DMs am I in??
Jokes aside, I really appreciate it! I'm glad you liked the video
I did have an entire long reply to this stating why the war happening is narratively important but it deals more with Kanata and will make no sense outside the Meteor Impact narrative but all I will say is that in Meteor Impact, the war shows us two things that are extremely important which is summed up in Kanata's execution, although the students are heavily affected even prior to that moment.
I also want to point out that outside of Meteor Impact, there is an explicit reason behind why Kanata's execution is never mentioned at all in narrative post war., although Keito makes extremely vague af references to it in Submarine.
If anyone wants me to go off on an unrelated to Eichi and the war tangent, please let me know as Kanata and Mayoi are two of my favorite characters to spout lore about.
thank you, i needed this
I thought this was made for meme wtf I thought enstars was a silly game about teens singing and dancing
I cried as this idol game is too much lore
New RUclips rules, so now I can't have external links in descriptions, anyway.
docs.google.com/presentation/d/11viN8AfCsrLEr3SaqoaaPjaj4oOYkPA1yjjK27qfv6Q/edit?usp=sharing The link to these slides
ensemble-stars.fandom.com/wiki/The_War?so=search The English Ensemble Stars wiki page about the War. Most of the things in this video were copied from there word for word
You can use the Wayback Machine to read most of the Ensemble Stars! stories, that have since been removed from the wiki because of copyright reasons
thank you for explaininggg uwu i enjoy it hahaha xD yes yes rei is yours
Oh i didnt know this was the war I actually watched the whole anime so now i get it
I THOUGHT THIS WAS JUST AN IDOL GAME WHAT IS THIS
well the more you know i guess
It NEVER was just a mere 'idol' game
Thank you you are angel because I don’t understand the war at all-
0:03 the nutshell
Eichi actually do have a good intentions, but a rather morally wrong executions and too high standards. He wanted Idols, who he loved from his childhood, to be impressive enough so that the audience is happy.
Well...past is past and Eichi did feel bad, so...i cant hate him. He's still my fav...
I'm an eichi apologist
I hope this video wasn't too bad then >.
As I keep saying to people, if you're going to hate him, at least hate him for the right reasons
SOMEONE PLEASEEE SUMMARIZE AND EXPLAIN METEOR IMPACT AND CHECKMATE TO ME THE SAME WAY YOU TELL IT TO A 5 YEAR OLD 🙏🙏
Ayyy funny you say that lol. I'm working on a video explaining the reminiscence stories like rn. It's way more pain cause 1. I haven't read most of them and 2. No one else (that I know of) has summarised it, so I gotta. I'm halfway reading Crossroads for the first time and woooow this is gonna talk a while to summarise/explain. Someone else is welcome to do that in these comments tho
ive read meteor impact twice but tbh i barely know where to start in summarizing it. like, i can spell out the basic story or idk
Checkmate is fun to read tbh.... If ya want a quick summarized here ya go;
So, Eichi make a plan for this "revolution" or as we know "war" with Tsumugi and Keito (but he didn't appear in Checkmate only mentioned). In Checkmate, is where he started his planned to create a unit named "5 eccentric" (Eichi do this secretly and Tsumugi is too oblivious to realize his sceme.) Knights didn't exist yet instead a big unit name Chess. But all the students are lazy except Leo and Sena. Eichi took advantage of Leo's naivety and started the "war". He use Chess as an experiment to see if he can make a battle between other units. Since all of his unitmates wanted his song only, that's where Chess split up.
Hence, this is where "Knights" rise. Sena already met Ritsu and Arashi that time, so it's easier for them to fight. Leo keep writing song until he broke down (like literally) (there's 2 ep I think a quick flashback in Next Door event). If am not wrong, it's because all of his haters came in their performance and overthrown Knights while yelling out "Checkmate!". Their performance declining rapidly afterward along with Leo's mentality (that why Leo sometimes act crazy). He locked himself in his room and force himself to write even though he couldn't.
Sena also mentioned that Leo keep apologizing to him and stab his hand with a pen, then bite his hand until bleeding, forcing himself to continue writing song.
And that's all for now I guess, that is long lmao.... But that is the "quickest" explanation I can give. I love angst so much, it really fun to read. ;)
@@dorimikizup Meteor Impact is more than just Chiaki and Kanata, so the easiest way to disection it is basiclly Ryuseitai members, Akatsuki Members, War, and Eccentrics; mostly because the war took place over eight months, and there are several other stories in narrative, that also took place during this time period (Crossroads, Checkmate, Marionette, and Element, being the big four, but by no means the only ones.) Through in Madara's convoluted backstory alongside Kanata and you have a menu for a really fucked up time.
What the fuck is ensemble stars about
as a new enstars player, i am scared 😀
You don't 'need' to know lore to play the game, but if you want to read the stories, more will make sense if you know backstory.
I DOWNLOADED THIS GAME CUZ IT WAS A RHYTHM GAME WHAT IS ALL OF THIS
Where of the other Characters during the war? (The exception is The Akatsuki Members,Undead Members,5 Oddballs,Ex-Fine and Knights) (Example Characters i meant meant: Trickstar,Yuzuru,Tori,Ibara,Jun,Mitsuru,Hajime,Etc)
Yuzuru wasn't present in yumenosaki during the war era, but regularly attended ex-fine's live shows, since Tori was a fan of Eichi, and transferred to it during his second year, which is around the same time as Anzu did.
@@narciatori what about Trickstars,Ibara,Jun,Tomoya,Hajime,Sora,Tsukasa,Shinobu,Tetora,Midori and the other Character that didn't appear in the war Era,Elements,Crossroad and Checkmate Series?
@@davianananttaliem1660 Trickstar doesn't form until after the war, although all it's memebers would have been first years during it. For Ibara, Jun, Hiyori, and Nagisa, it's just easier to read Obbligato. Hajime Tomoya, Sora, Tsukasa, Tetora, Midori, and Shinobu wouldn't attend until after the war.... same with Yuzuru and Tori. 2wink also attended YA after the war, Shu and Mika technically still were at YA, but didn't actually attend classes and performed at underground live houses (the one we see them come out of in the anime is actually Crossroads), but eventually they return after some prodding by Eichi and their comeback during the Tanabata Fes. Switch is formed just prior to the Tanabata Festival which is interesting if you watch the OG anime because their debut live happened during Tanabata Fes pt1.
Not 100% sure about Knights, but yeah, a third of the cast wasn't even around during the war so it's insane. I think the most messed up lore about YA comes in !! 1.5 and that is learning who was actually running the school.
THANKS WHEN SOMEONE ASKS ME WHATS THE LORE OF THIS INSANE GAME ILL JUST SEND THEM YOUR VID‼️ THANK YOU AGAIN!!!
Ok but where is the teacher ?!
A lot of the teachers were apathetic or didn't care either. They were there, but had the same attitude as most of the students. That's why finding out Akiomi is the faculty advisor for the Student Council was insane to me. Whether it was before the war or after, not 100% clear on that
llevo dos años jugando el juego y todavio no entiendo mucho el lore 😭pero esto me ayuda mucho thaaaanks,
This game has a lore?????
May I ask if tsukasa was able to know what happened to the war?
Could you elaborate on your question?
@@cupcake_smoothie oh I would like to ask whether tsukasa was able to know what happened to leo and izumi? Because I heard that something happened to leo because of eichi during the war
@@_HIRAETH_04 Oh, I'm not sure actually
@@cupcake_smoothie its okay, thank uu tho 😊
As Tsukasa attened as a first year after the war, I think it was mentioned that he was told stories about Leo, but what specifically he was told is really unknown. We just know he has always looked up to Knights, and after he became leader of the unit, I have no doubt he had to know at least his unit's backstory.
How to read the stories in the wiki? I'm getting frustrated because i am so interested on what happened but i can't access or press the episodes and read them!?
They had to be removed due to copyright, so most of the new stories cannot be read on the wiki, however, you can use the Wayback Machine to read about The War, and most ! stories.
:(omg i cant imagine how the students suicide thts terrible :(
Thanks for the video!! But I can't open the link to the presentation since it's only half readable...
I linked it in the comments cause of RUclips's new rules, I can't pin the comment either so you'll have to look
@cupcake_smoothie and here starts my journey!! LOL ty for sharing it in the comments!
I know this video was a long while ago, but where can I watch the anime? I've been trying to look for it but I can't really find it. To add on, do you know where I can find additional info about the characters? If not its okay
You can watch it on the official RUclips channel! They're releasing a new season soon, actually. You can also check out the Fandom wiki for more info on the characters!
ruclips.net/p/PL5wEQ3YUNbnBHtrbn-gLh2YM95QM0Un6u&si=_m42Q9Tl8L5BbZh2 Here's the playlist! Someone on Twitter added subtitles too, but I don't really remember who
@@cupcake_smoothie THANK YOU SO MUCH!
also the original anime is licensed on Crunchyroll
I just want to say that ALL of this is YA fault. End of the day.
i havent watched the vid yet but can someone PLEASE explain where this info is coming from😭? like where does the war happen? is it an event in the game? i know its in the anime but wheres this extra info coming from? like i don’t remember anyone committing suic!de
I got the info from the Enstars wiki, but all of this happens in the first game, which only has a Japanese server. It's part of the Reminiscence events but if I'm not mistaken you can still read them
@@cupcake_smoothie oh now it makes sense. however i don’t really understand people opposing eichi too much😭 like i completely agree that the fact that he used 5 people as stepping stools is terrible, but that aside, if he didnt reform the school, would that not just mean that students from yumenosaki would fail in the future? by making them work hard, at least now some of them have talent or are not on the path of being immediately rejected from future jobs. although some su!cided because of this system, i believe even more student wouldve su!cided in the future as a result of being failures + yumensaki’s reputation wouldve plummeted even more. so, in a sense, eichi also prevented lives from being destroyed, more so than if he werent here at all. its like, either way there would be people who were bound to fail, but at least this way, the percentage is lower. am i getting that right or did i miss something? thats why although the steps he took aren’t completely justifiable, i think people discredit him too much and overlook the realistic ideology
@@iquit1044 Yeah, you're not wrong. While a lot of people don't like Eichi for what he did he definitely did have good intentions. He was just a kid too. But it's the internet, so a lot of people view things very black and white
@@cupcake_smoothie true, but i still think its wrong for people to say hes the cause of peoples de3th. like many more wouldve died if it werent for his plan. eichi is a very well written character, i really despise it when others just see “good” or “bad” without understanding the depths behind ones actions, whether theyre justifiable or not. youre considerate though!
@@cupcake_smoothie Eichi's guilt also carries over to his creating ES for similar reasons as in the Tempest event, he second guesses if making ES was the right thing to do as he tramples the dreams of others in order to achieve his own. However, it's Wataru who says to him, if Eichi doesn't keep moving forward, he would have trampled those people for nothing (an obvious war reference here, given Wataru is one of the five eccentrics).
As someone who doesn't want to read but wants to know the lore, this did in fact make me dislike Eichi lmao
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I saw you on Reddit hi!!!!!!!!
Hiiiii! I actually made this cause I said I would make a video version in the first post lol
@@cupcake_smoothie oh wait really I didn’t know
oh gosh rei so thts why he acts like old man lmao :(((((
well, part of it has do with that, the other part of it is the running gag that he's an ancient vampire XD
Wait what
The slide link doesn't work. It's cut off
It's in the comments (which I can't pin for the same reason the link is cut off), but here docs.google.com/presentation/d/11viN8AfCsrLEr3SaqoaaPjaj4oOYkPA1yjjK27qfv6Q/edit?usp=sharing
Not even an enstarrie and never will be one but im just going to say this once: what the fuck is happening in this game i thougjt this was a normal idol game 😭
fucked up characters, and even more dark and fucked up lore. Welcome to Ensemble Stars
hot take all of them except hiyori and nagisa are complete losers
those two are still losers but not complete
Rei and Kaoru are my boyfails
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Ya I still dont trust Eichii, although he is "fine" in the sequel, just sussy as always like dude you taking 3 episodes to announce that v w x y z people are under-achievers and then 3 more to explain what your possible solution is-
Great writting, which is why I cannot handle being in the same room as him for long!
Nah, Tori annoys me more honestly. Because he is a gremlin -_-
... and I really... really need to find out tue whole background on Izumi cuz GOOD LORD did the anime not provide enough for me to somehow empathise since his attitude is also so...so annoying.
GIVE ME A REASON TO LOVE HIM!!! 😅
he has nice voice👍
The Checkmate anime tells more about the origins of Knights and is very Izumi and Leo-centric
I FEEL THIS WITH MY ENTIRE SOUL. I use to hate Izumi and then shrimpy boy decided to have music era character development and now I am KnightsP because of him ~_~ XD (I also blame Road to Show XD) And yeah, Izumi 'is' annoying as hell, but you do come to understand his character more through Knights Events in !! era
THIS WAS ACTUALLY REAL HELPFUL, SINCE IT WAS KINDA CHAOTIC AND I DIDNT UNDERSTAND IT FULLY. AAA THANKS