One thing I've always loved about Richard's approach to this stuff isn't just telling you what's wrong and what to do about it, but getting into the mechanics of how all this stuff works. I wanna know WHY it isn't working and what I can do to fix it and he delivers on that pretty much all the time.
@@Rhettnorris09 before pots and dishes felt a little greasy and some spots. Now everything is just as clean as washing them by hand. (Again at least in our household) try it see if you see a difference) Happy New Year
The timing of this video is surreal. My dishwasher literally just stopped draining properly the other day. Got some troubleshooting ideas to try out thanks to y'all!
Before doing anything on a no draining dishwasher, ask one question. Did you just install a new garbage disposal? If yes, check to make sure the deposal drain plug is knocked out. Courtesy of RichLine Appliance Parts. Eagle Lake, Fl.
Yes a very common install mistake I was surprised it wasn’t mentioned in the video but the common home owner/handy man/ plumber doesn’t know these things like you and I in the appliances business, courtesy of ammm bcc Maidencreek TV and appliance. 8261 Allentown pike Reading Pennsylvania 19605
I got into my dishwasher a couple decades ago because I had to and found pieces of glass stuck in the sprayer holes. A glass must have broken and it went through the system. It worked much better after getting them out! ☺
Technology Connections youtube channel did 2 great videos on dishwasher mechanics. In summary, use detergent in both reservoirs, don't fill it with too much detergent, and (the key) run the hot water in your sink until it's piping hot before turning on your dishwasher.
45 minutes after watching this my dishwasher filter is nice and clean. I had a twist tie in there and some larger shell bits stuck in the “pre filter” of the grinder. Plus lots of built up nasty scum everywhere. Thanks!
Most new dishwashers have a completely different design. Too bad they did not show how much the design has improved for access. Most people still don't know that there is a filter in the bottom of new dishwashers or how easy they are to access. Macerators are also not found on many new dishwashers.
Use detergent in the wash and prewash sections, plus rinse aid. Basically just the $1/lb powder stuff. That helps both keeping it running better and cleans dishes well. Cheaper than those tablets too. Also don't stop in mid cycle, may end up with large particles or grease issues.
Absolutely! I used the pods for a while but they left a residue that gummed up the pumps. Run a cup of vinegar through it every so often, helps deodorize the sump.
Running the hot water before helps in the drying cycle as well. Our hot water heater is on the opposite end of the house. Run it until there is a lot of steam. Also using a rinse aid helps in the drying as well. Today’s dishwashers just aren’t like they used to be.
I had to replace two parts on my dishwasher just a few months apart. The intake valve including the actuator and the output drain valve where the water is pumped out of the bottom. I've noticed from years of use many of the seals and gaskets will simply dry out. Also, moving parts will simply fail over time. Many people just go and spend alot of money on a dishwasher but I grew up in a house where we fixed everything ourselves.
Many other parts wear out. My Bosch DW is 6 years old. The front display failed. I will not replace that because not worth it. The start button physically broke. To replace the simple button, I opened up the front door compartment. The control buttons are held by plastic. The plastic started crumbling as soon as I touched it. I had to rig a piece of Styrofoam to hold them together. Then the inlet valve failed so I replaced that, too. If anything else fails in this dishwasher, it will go straight to the junkyard. It is just not worth fixing anymore if something breaks. 😕
The problem is that the computer / display is often the thing that fails, and replacing that is several hundred dollars. At which point its just worth it to get a new dishwasher as you might spend that couple hundred and end up not even fixing the problem. Appliances in general nowadays are all built out of the crappiest components imaginable and designed to fail after several years so you're forced to buy new ones. Doesn't matter whether you buy the cheap models or expensive models, the same is true of all of them. What's really interesting is that "forced obsolesce" isn't even a new business concept. In the early 1900s, when lightbulbs were relatively new, manufacturers kept improving them and made versions that could last for years and years. But then they found their sales decreasing. So they all conspired together to start making them as cheaply as possible so they'd wear out much more quickly and force people to replace them. That became the standard until CFLs and LEDs finally came around. I'm generally not a fan of government regulation but I really don't see what else could fix this issue. The free market on its own can't, because a competitor that makes long-lasting products would have to both charge more and then wait years for their claims to be proven out, and even then its no guarantee of sales as people often buy the cheapest option regardless. Perhaps manufacturers should be required to post expected lifespans on all appliances? Make it easier for consumers to compare upfront the quality of the product they're buying?
If you managed to get an appliance to last more than 7-10 years, many parts will no longer be available. The amount of different models/corresponding parts for these things is astonishing.
I'm surprised they didn't talk about the solenoid or pump. That is usually the catastrophic failure. This became a look under this dishwasher, ewwww complicated... now let's pretend we're never going to service any of this.... Let's just clean under the sump cover
These videos are great. My tip. Have a magnet to gather and hold the screws and metal parts and a parts tray for everything you take off. Its easy to magnetize the screwdriver too. Just three strokes in one direction with a magnet. Also I saw a video about putting a cup upright and filling it with vinegar to run with every other cycle. This has worked for me.
Thanks Roger and Kevin for your assistance too, lol. New tips I had not yet learned. I've been watching since the 80s(!) as a kid and have been "more doing" for 17 years often helping out neighbors:)
Had an interesting discussion with my daughter about rinse dishes before putting them in Dw. “Waste of water.” Then she discovered her new Dw didn’t have a macerator (grinder?) as the older models did. Directions say to rinse dishes before putting in Dw.
@@robertbamford8266 correction, quiet is more expensive since you need more insulation. I suppose the Cadillac would be a quiet model with a grinder...but not sure I've seen one of those!
@@oambrosia Exactly. You can also have a superior motor in the unit that runs quieter but that would also add to the price of the unit. Not to mention stabilizing the washer against the combined vibrations from all the internal functions. At that point you're looking at professional quality.
Same with my wife, when we brought it the sale woman said that can mess with the sensor if you do that. I told her that that to much food on the dishes is to much for the dishwasher. It's like I'm talking to a brick wall and the way she loads is crazy as well. Now have small problems, it's a year old. I'm now going to clean it with her and let her see that she is the problem (in a nice way). She say the same thing about wasting water. I brought a garbage disposal splash guard that has a Scraper on the other side. Just to scrap it in the trash. That doesn't happen. I'm mean SOB.......
It's amazing how many dishwasher installation "pros" conveniently don't mention the drain hose loop thing or correct it when it's installed wrong. Almost like they know a bad install means future business.
Our old dishwasher (Bosch) had the drain loop. When I installed our new LG dishwasher a few months ago I was surprised the installation instructions had both the supply and drain hose going through the the same hole low on the cabinet. I did do a drain loop but now it was in the sink cabinet. Being on a well and septic we do not have a garbage grinder so at least that is not a problem.
I had some issues with my clothes washer concerning over zealous suds and found myself on RUclips being instructed to clean the lower filter out. This was simple enough and now I know where all my missing zipper pulls have went to. Still looking for those guitar picks tho... :)
I went around in circles a couple of days trying to fix a problem with dishes not getting clean. There was a sticky gummy coating on all of the plastics in the sump area. Turns out, my water softener was out of salt and my water had turned hard. I added salt to the softener and problem solved. Soft water is a must.
My DW is ancient and the pump finally died. Took a while to find a replacement (same unit was made under several names with a number of pump changes throughout those manufacturing cycles), Replacing the pump was not hard. With a rotary dial, I can set it to use only one wash cycle so it's much faster (and louder) than modern units and still very effective. Hope I never have to replace it.
I have a very similar if not the same dishwasher as in this video and I clean mine and found a whole bunch of paper on the bottom. It seems like someone in my family washed glass pasta bottles with the labels on them still and all the paper accumulated on the bottom, I’m sure that was not good and it was good to clean all that out.
My Miele dishwasher is designed very differently, with a triple filter that's designed to be easily removed and cleaned. It doesn't have a grinder. Every dishwasher I owned with a grinder eventually started redepositing food onto the dishes, because the grinder blades had worn down. Same for the non return valve. You can easily remove it and clean it from the inside of the machine. The bottom washer arm also just pulls right out for cleaning. I much prefer the European approach to dishwashers to the US designs.
I don't understand your "grinder" issues. At the end of the wash cycle the water is pumped out past the spinning wire (common design) you're calling "blades". Then the rinse cycles start. "Redepositing" food should have nothing to do with the built-in "disposal"...usually just a spinning wire in the pump discharge path. Sounds like your wash water isn't being fully pumped out, isn't hot enough, bad detergent, weak pump, clogged wash arms, etc.
A lot of new dishwashers have now removed the heating coil at the bottom (energy efficiency laws) and the food grinder/disposer (noise). Only American brand dishwashers (GE, Whirlpool) still have the heating coil and you can get better drying performance as compared with an import brand (Bosch, LG) as they dont have heated dry. Always clean the filter! Never run it without the filter! Use a dishwasher cleaner like Affresh and run the cleaning cycle!
As soon as your dishwasher finishes open the door. Steam will escape and everything will dry. Hand dry glasses and cutlery if you want them to sparkle.
I worked at Denny's when I was a teenager. I was responsible for keeping the dish machine running. It was a HOBART monster. It had a heating element for standing water in the bottom. I had to drain it & take out the aluminum filter cage and wash it and scrub it. Put it back in. Then, I would remove the wash arms and take a toothpick to clean out the jet's. Then I would put it all back together. Fill it back up & replenish the detergent solid in the Despenser. Then, it was ready to run for eight hours. They always called me when it was having trouble. They did have to have someone else replace the start button. It broke. Half Assed replace switch. The vent hood over the HOBART didn't work either. What a filthy dump that place was.
With these energy efficient appliances out and it being the time of the year to use them, you guys should make a video on portable room heaters. I had one about three or four years ago and my bill shot up. Folks told me it was the portable heater but it was hard to believe that did it. There has to be options out there that won’t double or triple your monthly bill.
@ yup, I understand that my dude. Last i checked portable heaters used up quite a bit of wattage, the good ones. My bill shot up after i started using a brand new one. Here’s the thing that can take this either way, i lived in Lubbock TX where there’s word the only electrical company there sticks it to their customers every year and i did get two bills in my three years living there where the bill inexplicably tripled. I was baffled when around February it shot up for one month, but then on December of the previous month when we had the Christmas lights on we only paid a fraction of February’s amount. Many folks i worked with brushed it off as “it happens” when i told them my situation, saying lubbock power does it to everyone at least once a year and politicians know but turn a blind eye. At that time i was also told these appliances use up a lot of electricity and it’s best to just have your central unit on auto. Folks at the store where I bought the heater, co-workers, my apartment’s handyman and manager, and the folks at lubbock power all said the same thing. If this is in fact true then i go back to my original post’s question, there’s got to be new portable heaters that are easier on your wallet by now.
Electric space heaters cannot be improved upon. They are 100% efficient. A heat pump is an electric type of heater which gives more heat for the given watts is consumes. It's -10F here in Maine, and I have never used an electric space heater.... insulation and a good heating system is key.
Electricity in Texas is very expensive when you need it most so probably any other source of heat is cheaper. How about a wood stove/propane/natural gas/oil
Most dishwashers can avoid a lot of problems/issues if they're properly cared for. This usually requires very little effort on the homeowner's part. Unfortunately, most people are too lazy to do even the most simplest tasks when it comes to stuff like this. They'd rather be lazy and not take care of anything. They're okay with buying a new model when their current model dies. My mom taught me much better than that. She always told me to take care of everything I own so it will last much longer. Those words live inside my head every single day.
Great seeing ole Richard. He's looking good although a bit older as are we all. The best maintenance I've found for a dishwasher is to minimize using your garbage disposal and pre-rinse your plates/pots with plenty of water.
The old Kitchenaide (KDS) washers will dry the dishes in a cycle and have stood the test of time. You can clean them easier than the one in this demo as well.
Thanks, interestingly, our Landlord just replaced old Dishwasher ,WITH “AMANA “( HOME DEPOT, delivery’s ).. ha being three KITCHENAIDE DISHWASHERS ( with Quiet Packages on two OF THEM ?, the first was a Portable/Push/ Sink Connector, with Butcher Block TOP) over some 45 years :: I do miss KITCHENAIDE.! We downsized to apartment Life……
Best practice is to do quick rinse of dishes regardless of what the Cascade, etc. says. Save yourself the headache. Also, once a month run an empty load with a cup of vinegar in the top rack. It will breakdown lots of food and gunk in the discharge hose, remove hard water deposits, and deodorize the inside.
Ok. I am now an expert at dishwasher, install/maintenance/ disposal. In the 18 years I have lived in my house I have had 8 dishwashers. The one that came with the house and died 6 months in. New whirlpool #2 lasted 3 mo before arm fell off. Replaced arm with service lasted 3 months...rinse/repeat...service 3 mo rinse/repeat... 4 times then they replaced whole thing. #3 did the same they replaced it. #4 worked for 1 yr and1 month. Motherboard blew. All whirlpools till now. Switched to Bosch #5 worked for almost 2yrs then died motherboard not covered under extended warranty that we paid for. #6 Samsung worked good for a few yrs under extended warranty and arm fell. Called for service... replaced arm. Then motor went, service replaced then died and they had no idea why so no replacement. Perhaps wiring they said and not covered. #7 samsung panel died under extended warranty so they cut a check and said we will not ever get another check or replacement via Samsung. At this point whirlpool out, Bosch out, Samsung out, so we go with GE because our 15 yr old sink attached portable dishwasher in my bathroom still functional and our backup leads us to GE. This one lasts 5 yrs before I replace the temp sensor. Then the motor. Then the drainage hose. Then the water valve (attach point to h2o hose) which the filter was dirty and stuck. Then the heating element went but I don't use it so never mind. 7.5 yrs it lasted I gave up. So bought the cheapest ge out there and it's internals are exactly like portable, confirmed with online research. So my hope is it lasts 5 yrs min. Took apart old GE keeping all parts because they fit this one, all parts match. The plastic tub is now an outdoor cat house for abandoned cats in winter. Long story I hate dishwasher makers who do not produce nor follow thru with their warranties. Yes I'm good at maintenance and repair. Faulty products regardless of makers reputation. Look at Canada's fifth estate analysis on dishwashers and makers customer service it was very enlightening even though we are in US.
My neighbour threw out their 2008 Kenmore dishwasher and there was nothing wrong with it. I installed it and it is still working for the last 4 years without any issues.
Hate my dishwasher! It won’t dry the dishes, and yes there is plenty of rinse aid in it. Had repair guy out from place we bought it and he said that it’s normal for newer dishwashers to not have the heat element not get hotter to save energy!
You’re probably much less likely to get the melted dishes you’d once find. I know they tell you not to wash dishes before loading a washer, but I either wash by hand and use the machine to dry, or I soak the dishes in hot water to remove caked-on and larger pieces of food before placing them in for a wash cycle. I just much rather not deal with dismantling that machine for anything. Since I live alone, however, I tend to wash items by hand as I use them.
I had a dishwasher like this one. It was a real pain to clean the filter etc. Now I have a another made by Kitchen Aid. It is really seay to clean the filters.
In an effort to save on electricity, we NEVER use the dry mode. Instead, when the wash cycle completes, we open the door, pull racks out, and let the heat in the dishes evaporate the water on them.
Been there on getting things back together. Look for a YT video b4 you start, and do take lots of photos as you work and make notes including on the photos. If it's complex, don't be in a hurry.
do you have a video explaining how dishwasher wash dishes? a) does it continuously spray new water? b) or is it similar to a washing machine: it has wash cycles and each cycle a new set of water; rinse repeat?
I'm in a rental temporarily thanks to hurricane Ida. I haven't had a dw in over 40 years and really enjoying it. I will definitely include one in our rebuild. The rental house kitchen does not have a garbage disposal. Is this normal?
I'm an electrician and I've done alot of kitchens. Most of the time they do not ask us to run a circuit for a garbage disposal unless it is an add on. So a garbage disposal is extra. When you design your new kitchen make sure you ask for one if you want it.
This is a good video but. Every modern dishwasher has a filter that is easily accessible, so you don’t have to disassemble the unit to get to, as well as if the unit doesn’t fill with water, and you have a well or have old copper pipe sediment in the water, etc there is a filter on the water inlet valve where he said there is a solenoid, that’ll get clogged up and the unit can’t fill with water
Another thing that can happen is those dishwasher packets that you can buy and just toss in the plastic casing on them doesn’t dissolve all the way and can build up over time and clog the drain holes as well as the spray arms powder dishwasher detergent can also do this it happened to my dad his machine wasn’t cleaning dishes so I took it apart to find little pieces of plastic from those dishwasher packets along with built up powder I cleaned everything out and his over 15 year old dishwasher works like new again we both now use the gel detergent’s in a bottle not the little plastic packets
My dad works for whirlpool he knows that dishwasher inside and out He services them and he does warrantee repairs on them to He also works on stoves refrigerators dryers washers That are made by whirlpool so anything you buy from Lowe’s he can work on in fact that’s what he’s been doing most of the time it’s just doing warranty work at the local Lowe’s
And if you want to make sure your dishwasher is doing a good job Throw away those pods & use a liquid dishwashing detergent & fill both slots up with detergent & let your kitchen sink run until the water is hot before starting.
I would just add to this video that you neglected the importance of Jet Dry. As a serviceman for 38 years I saw many people that neglected to use Jet-Dry in their dishwashers. This causes hardening spots and prevents the dishes from drying. If you use Jet-Dry all the time with the new dishwashers you will not experience wet dishes.
My big complaint is that the coating on the racks doesnt last and then they begin to rust. And at over 100 bucks a pop to replace every few years, its too much money to have to spend on replacing the racks. So I used some Flex Seal and sprayed the areas of my rack that were beginning to rust. They werent bad, but were starting to rust. Seems to be working so far.
It was explained to me that when we rinse the dishes to clean before putting them in the DW the soap has very little dirt to work with, therefore the coating on the racks receives the harshness of the power of the soap and the coating breaks down sooner.
@@niroms8199 Interesting, but not what is causing my problem. Evidently the dryer element gets the dishes so hot, that over time, they begin to melt the plastic coating. I have already replaced both racks at over $100 a piece, once, and didnt want to do it again. So I read where Flex Seal could with stand the high temperature of the heating element and decided to just spray the bad spots and see if it holds. So far it has, but its only been a few months so only time will tell if it was a good idea.
The main thing I want to know is how to take apart the washer arms. I have extremely hard water and sometimes the ends of the top washer arm gets blocked. I take a wire to it but I'd like to get it open so that I could clean it out more efficiently.
Yeh they really suck since you can’t access backside to clean holes. Glass and other pieces invariably get in there and fall back when trying to get them out with tweezers etc
good info! thanks! i have a on again off again leak at the corner underneath where the door seal stops near the floor of the dishwasher. how i load the dishes on the bottom rack influences this leak. any suggestions on how to fix it so i do not have to do ground maneuvers to avoid this leak? thanks
We have the same problem with an old Maytag. Replacing the door seal should be the easy fix - but we're running into issues finding old parts. Good luck!
As Richard states in the video, DW doors are not well sealed. The problem you describe might be a combination: the way you load it and/or the seal giving out. I can get our very primo Miele to leak if I run it MT, for example.
At the 2 lower corners of the door seal you will see 2 rubber blocks. They may be very dirty or cracked. They are easily replaced. Yes, how you load it can affect how the water is deflected inside. Also be sure you are not using too much DW detergent or that there is some residual SOAP on the dishes before loading. There must be no or only very little foaming during the wash cycles.
Great video. Very good info. But the best, quickest, and more energy efficient way of cleaning those nasty dishes is the old fashioned way…by hand. Saves time, money, water, and electricity. What I call a “win-win”.
You mean they don't work by magic???!!!! 4:55 I never understood the need to change up screw head components. Other than to add a layer of complexity to discourage the do it yourselfer from making their own repair.
Pretty much. For example, furniture makers usually use Robertson (square) tips. In construction I use SAE sockets, wrenches and nut drivers.. meanwhile in automotive there is all metric.
@@oambrosia As much as I love Torx I have to defend Phillips. There's a big misconception about phillips. Most people are using a #2 phillips when they are supposed to be using a #1 Phillips, #3 Phillips or even a Posidriv. The same stripping would occur if you used one size off from the correct Torx bit size required. Try it for yourself with different sized bits. I've stripped many Torx screws in my early years of tool usage. Even when using the correct size of Torx I have stripped a few titanium screws that were expensive to replace. I believe the reason for that is because it is more expensive to machine a 6 point star accurately than it is a 4 point cross to exact dimensions.
@@JustinL614 I don't disagree using the wrong bit will cause issues...and don't forget to include JIS in the mix. But in general a Phillips is still far more likely to have an issue than Torx or square.
@@oambrosia Hey I might be wrong because I'm only going on personal experience. I'll have to see if someone did a comparison video of Phillips vs Torx.
My prevention for this is to cold rince ALL of the dirty dishes BEFORE putting them in the washer. The little girl in the TV ad says, "What does the dishwasher do?" when mommy pre-rinses. Well, the dishwaasher deep cleans and sanitizes. The tpical homeowner is NOT going to have the washer up on a table or bench where that kind of service is easy. When down on your knees and reaching in and up, its a royal PIA.
looks like a cheezy american design. Our Bosch DW has a sump pan that extends under all the locations that might leak and has a sump pump to empty this sump pan. No more ruined floors from unnoticed leaks.
What about hard watee ...diff soap/cleaner doesnt do anything and i took it all apart and it was cleaned with clr so its basically spotless and everything works on it too 🤷
One thing I've always loved about Richard's approach to this stuff isn't just telling you what's wrong and what to do about it, but getting into the mechanics of how all this stuff works. I wanna know WHY it isn't working and what I can do to fix it and he delivers on that pretty much all the time.
4:07 What a gentleman! Very careful and considerate
One of the things that we noticed improved our DW was running the HOT WATER before running the DW. The water supply line runs off the hot water. FYI
Yep!! I was told that several years ago by a professional repair man. They don't make them like they use to thats for sure.
We use cold supply in the UK. Far smarter
How was your DW improved by running the hot water? I’m curious
@@Rhettnorris09 it gets your DW hot faster. You don't have to run your hot water for long, just long enough to get the water hot then Starr you DW.
@@Rhettnorris09 before pots and dishes felt a little greasy and some spots. Now everything is just as clean as washing them by hand. (Again at least in our household) try it see if you see a difference) Happy New Year
The timing of this video is surreal. My dishwasher literally just stopped draining properly the other day. Got some troubleshooting ideas to try out thanks to y'all!
It’s the sink also show? If so you need to rod the main drain after the p trap. That happened to me
Mine was draining slow and there was always water in the bottom. I ran a bottle of “dishwasher cleaner” through it, problem solved!
“Literally” ? 😂😂😂
@@kurtvonfricken6829 Vinegar is cheaper
Before doing anything on a no draining dishwasher, ask one question. Did you just install a new garbage disposal? If yes, check to make sure the deposal drain plug is knocked out.
Courtesy of RichLine Appliance Parts.
Eagle Lake, Fl.
Yes a very common install mistake I was surprised it wasn’t mentioned in the video but the common home owner/handy man/ plumber doesn’t know these things like you and I in the appliances business, courtesy of ammm bcc Maidencreek TV and appliance. 8261 Allentown pike
Reading Pennsylvania 19605
I got into my dishwasher a couple decades ago because I had to and found pieces of glass stuck in the sprayer holes. A glass must have broken and it went through the system. It worked much better after getting them out! ☺
i have been in my dish washer many times and gave it a good going threw and clean out its some times amazing what makes its way threw the system
Technology Connections youtube channel did 2 great videos on dishwasher mechanics. In summary, use detergent in both reservoirs, don't fill it with too much detergent, and (the key) run the hot water in your sink until it's piping hot before turning on your dishwasher.
The last part is very important. But people are really dumb.
45 minutes after watching this my dishwasher filter is nice and clean. I had a twist tie in there and some larger shell bits stuck in the “pre filter” of the grinder. Plus lots of built up nasty scum everywhere. Thanks!
Most new dishwashers have a completely different design. Too bad they did not show how much the design has improved for access. Most people still don't know that there is a filter in the bottom of new dishwashers or how easy they are to access. Macerators are also not found on many new dishwashers.
Use detergent in the wash and prewash sections, plus rinse aid. Basically just the $1/lb powder stuff.
That helps both keeping it running better and cleans dishes well. Cheaper than those tablets too. Also don't stop in mid cycle, may end up with large particles or grease issues.
Absolutely! I used the pods for a while but they left a residue that gummed up the pumps. Run a cup of vinegar through it every so often, helps deodorize the sump.
@@joshm340 And vinegar helps dissolve hard water residue. Miele recommends that and as I expect do many others.
Also if next to the kitchen sink and you are far from the water heater get the hot water to the faucet. I am on the 3rd floor
Running the hot water before helps in the drying cycle as well. Our hot water heater is on the opposite end of the house. Run it until there is a lot of steam. Also using a rinse aid helps in the drying as well. Today’s dishwashers just aren’t like they used to be.
Yeah I should have kept my old dishwasher that worked fine but looked ugly. Should have just put a new front on it
I'll have to take a look at my install for that "hi loop". Thanks for the pointers.
I had to replace two parts on my dishwasher just a few months apart. The intake valve including the actuator and the output drain valve where the water is pumped out of the bottom. I've noticed from years of use many of the seals and gaskets will simply dry out. Also, moving parts will simply fail over time. Many people just go and spend alot of money on a dishwasher but I grew up in a house where we fixed everything ourselves.
Many other parts wear out. My Bosch DW is 6 years old. The front display failed. I will not replace that because not worth it. The start button physically broke. To replace the simple button, I opened up the front door compartment. The control buttons are held by plastic. The plastic started crumbling as soon as I touched it. I had to rig a piece of Styrofoam to hold them together. Then the inlet valve failed so I replaced that, too. If anything else fails in this dishwasher, it will go straight to the junkyard. It is just not worth fixing anymore if something breaks. 😕
The problem is that the computer / display is often the thing that fails, and replacing that is several hundred dollars. At which point its just worth it to get a new dishwasher as you might spend that couple hundred and end up not even fixing the problem.
Appliances in general nowadays are all built out of the crappiest components imaginable and designed to fail after several years so you're forced to buy new ones. Doesn't matter whether you buy the cheap models or expensive models, the same is true of all of them.
What's really interesting is that "forced obsolesce" isn't even a new business concept. In the early 1900s, when lightbulbs were relatively new, manufacturers kept improving them and made versions that could last for years and years. But then they found their sales decreasing. So they all conspired together to start making them as cheaply as possible so they'd wear out much more quickly and force people to replace them. That became the standard until CFLs and LEDs finally came around.
I'm generally not a fan of government regulation but I really don't see what else could fix this issue. The free market on its own can't, because a competitor that makes long-lasting products would have to both charge more and then wait years for their claims to be proven out, and even then its no guarantee of sales as people often buy the cheapest option regardless. Perhaps manufacturers should be required to post expected lifespans on all appliances? Make it easier for consumers to compare upfront the quality of the product they're buying?
If you managed to get an appliance to last more than 7-10 years, many parts will no longer be available. The amount of different models/corresponding parts for these things is astonishing.
I'm surprised they didn't talk about the solenoid or pump. That is usually the catastrophic failure.
This became a look under this dishwasher, ewwww complicated...
now let's pretend we're never going to service any of this....
Let's just clean under the sump cover
We have a 2002 Fridgedair DW that runs 5 times a week. Never had a problem so far!
These videos are great. My tip. Have a magnet to gather and hold the screws and metal parts and a parts tray for everything you take off. Its easy to magnetize the screwdriver too. Just three strokes in one direction with a magnet. Also I saw a video about putting a cup upright and filling it with vinegar to run with every other cycle. This has worked for me.
Thanks Roger and Kevin for your assistance too, lol. New tips I had not yet learned. I've been watching since the 80s(!) as a kid and have been "more doing" for 17 years often helping out neighbors:)
That’s not Roger.
@@davidpearson3304
Richard, my favorite TV plumber!!!
Had an interesting discussion with my daughter about rinse dishes before putting them in Dw. “Waste of water.” Then she discovered her new Dw didn’t have a macerator (grinder?) as the older models did. Directions say to rinse dishes before putting in Dw.
I would say most do not. But they likely have a filter that is easier to clean. Skipping the grinder keeps the unit quiet.
@@oambrosia 👍 And cuts manufacturing costs. But not, evidently, prices.
@@robertbamford8266 correction, quiet is more expensive since you need more insulation. I suppose the Cadillac would be a quiet model with a grinder...but not sure I've seen one of those!
@@oambrosia Exactly. You can also have a superior motor in the unit that runs quieter but that would also add to the price of the unit. Not to mention stabilizing the washer against the combined vibrations from all the internal functions. At that point you're looking at professional quality.
Same with my wife, when we brought it the sale woman said that can mess with the sensor if you do that. I told her that that to much food on the dishes is to much for the dishwasher. It's like I'm talking to a brick wall and the way she loads is crazy as well. Now have small problems, it's a year old. I'm now going to clean it with her and let her see that she is the problem (in a nice way). She say the same thing about wasting water. I brought a garbage disposal splash guard that has a Scraper on the other side. Just to scrap it in the trash. That doesn't happen. I'm mean SOB.......
It sure is easy to work on the DW when up on a table. :)
It's amazing how many dishwasher installation "pros" conveniently don't mention the drain hose loop thing or correct it when it's installed wrong. Almost like they know a bad install means future business.
Our old dishwasher (Bosch) had the drain loop. When I installed our new LG dishwasher a few months ago I was surprised the installation instructions had both the supply and drain hose going through the the same hole low on the cabinet. I did do a drain loop but now it was in the sink cabinet.
Being on a well and septic we do not have a garbage grinder so at least that is not a problem.
that discharge high loop is built into the side wall of our Bosch DW
Make sure you unplug your dishwasher or breaker before you start disassembling it
*I always wondered how to maintain my dishwasher correctly thanks for making this video.👍*
I had some issues with my clothes washer concerning over zealous suds and found myself on RUclips being instructed to clean the lower filter out. This was simple enough and now I know where all my missing zipper pulls have went to. Still looking for those guitar picks tho... :)
Someone should tell this to my apartment maintenance man.
I'm surprised they didn't mention the need to clean the filter, a very easy thing to do. No tools required.
Depends on the washer. Many don’t have a strainer and only have a macerator.
Oh yes, it can get quite gross.
Very helpful. I replaced the motor and the dishwasher is still not working right. This gives me some ideas. Thanks.
I went around in circles a couple of days trying to fix a problem with dishes not getting clean. There was a sticky gummy coating on all of the plastics in the sump area. Turns out, my water softener was out of salt and my water had turned hard. I added salt to the softener and problem solved. Soft water is a must.
I would also add to disassemble and clean inside the sprayer arm and propeller. Mold can grow in those and behind the sprayer arm.
My DW is ancient and the pump finally died. Took a while to find a replacement (same unit was made under several names with a number of pump changes throughout those manufacturing cycles), Replacing the pump was not hard. With a rotary dial, I can set it to use only one wash cycle so it's much faster (and louder) than modern units and still very effective. Hope I never have to replace it.
Love the older machines. You can rebuild them in a pinch!
@@nathanncohen793 Like the old center post washers. Kept mine going for 47 yrs.
New disposers usually have a stopper in the water inlet, to be used only in conjunction with a dishwasher. Need to be sure to remove it.
Old (ancient) ones do, too.
I have a very similar if not the same dishwasher as in this video and I clean mine and found a whole bunch of paper on the bottom. It seems like someone in my family washed glass pasta bottles with the labels on them still and all the paper accumulated on the bottom, I’m sure that was not good and it was good to clean all that out.
My Miele dishwasher is designed very differently, with a triple filter that's designed to be easily removed and cleaned. It doesn't have a grinder. Every dishwasher I owned with a grinder eventually started redepositing food onto the dishes, because the grinder blades had worn down. Same for the non return valve. You can easily remove it and clean it from the inside of the machine. The bottom washer arm also just pulls right out for cleaning. I much prefer the European approach to dishwashers to the US designs.
Oh that sounds wonderful. How much did you pay for it
@@KMF3 It is a basic model, around $800. They were having a sale. Normal price is around $1000, I believe.
@@johnstone7697 oh wow
I don't understand your "grinder" issues. At the end of the wash cycle the water is pumped out past the spinning wire (common design) you're calling "blades". Then the rinse cycles start. "Redepositing" food should have nothing to do with the built-in "disposal"...usually just a spinning wire in the pump discharge path. Sounds like your wash water isn't being fully pumped out, isn't hot enough, bad detergent, weak pump, clogged wash arms, etc.
A lot of new dishwashers have now removed the heating coil at the bottom (energy efficiency laws) and the food grinder/disposer (noise).
Only American brand dishwashers (GE, Whirlpool) still have the heating coil and you can get better drying performance as compared with an import brand (Bosch, LG) as they dont have heated dry.
Always clean the filter! Never run it without the filter! Use a dishwasher cleaner like Affresh and run the cleaning cycle!
I make sure to tell her she's appreciated.
Yep, ol’ Richard sure can state the obvious, “Lots of dishes get dirty and they have to be cleaned”!
Did he really say that? 😂😂😂😂
As soon as your dishwasher finishes open the door. Steam will escape and everything will dry. Hand dry glasses and cutlery if you want them to sparkle.
Good call. Was just fixing to say this as well!
It's what I do but no spots on mine.
I worked at Denny's when I was a teenager. I was responsible for keeping the dish machine running. It was a HOBART monster. It had a heating element for standing water in the bottom. I had to drain it & take out the aluminum filter cage and wash it and scrub it. Put it back in. Then, I would remove the wash arms and take a toothpick to clean out the jet's. Then I would put it all back together. Fill it back up & replenish the detergent solid in the Despenser. Then, it was ready to run for eight hours. They always called me when it was having trouble. They did have to have someone else replace the start button. It broke. Half Assed replace switch. The vent hood over the HOBART didn't work either. What a filthy dump that place was.
Keep up the grate work! Y’all work so professionally and are the greatest teachers when I’m in a pickle or just need a refresher
With these energy efficient appliances out and it being the time of the year to use them, you guys should make a video on portable room heaters. I had one about three or four years ago and my bill shot up. Folks told me it was the portable heater but it was hard to believe that did it. There has to be options out there that won’t double or triple your monthly bill.
@ yup, I understand that my dude. Last i checked portable heaters used up quite a bit of wattage, the good ones. My bill shot up after i started using a brand new one. Here’s the thing that can take this either way, i lived in Lubbock TX where there’s word the only electrical company there sticks it to their customers every year and i did get two bills in my three years living there where the bill inexplicably tripled. I was baffled when around February it shot up for one month, but then on December of the previous month when we had the Christmas lights on we only paid a fraction of February’s amount. Many folks i worked with brushed it off as “it happens” when i told them my situation, saying lubbock power does it to everyone at least once a year and politicians know but turn a blind eye. At that time i was also told these appliances use up a lot of electricity and it’s best to just have your central unit on auto. Folks at the store where I bought the heater, co-workers, my apartment’s handyman and manager, and the folks at lubbock power all said the same thing. If this is in fact true then i go back to my original post’s question, there’s got to be new portable heaters that are easier on your wallet by now.
Electric space heaters cannot be improved upon. They are 100% efficient. A heat pump is an electric type of heater which gives more heat for the given watts is consumes.
It's -10F here in Maine, and I have never used an electric space heater.... insulation and a good heating system is key.
Electricity in Texas is very expensive when you need it most so probably any other source of heat is cheaper. How about a wood stove/propane/natural gas/oil
Or move to a state where they allow competition with the electric companies
Ceramic disc heater uses less electricity.
Very informative! My chief complaint is that it nvr dries :(
Most dishwashers can avoid a lot of problems/issues if they're properly cared for. This usually requires very little effort on the homeowner's part. Unfortunately, most people are too lazy to do even the most simplest tasks when it comes to stuff like this. They'd rather be lazy and not take care of anything. They're okay with buying a new model when their current model dies. My mom taught me much better than that. She always told me to take care of everything I own so it will last much longer. Those words live inside my head every single day.
Yup, they'll spend $800 on something that's really worth about $100.
Great seeing ole Richard. He's looking good although a bit older as are we all. The best maintenance I've found for a dishwasher is to minimize using your garbage disposal and pre-rinse your plates/pots with plenty of water.
The old Kitchenaide (KDS) washers will dry the dishes in a cycle and have stood the test of time. You can clean them easier than the one in this demo as well.
Thanks, interestingly, our Landlord just replaced old Dishwasher ,WITH “AMANA “( HOME DEPOT, delivery’s ).. ha being three KITCHENAIDE DISHWASHERS ( with Quiet Packages on two OF THEM ?, the first was a Portable/Push/ Sink Connector, with Butcher Block TOP) over some 45 years :: I do miss KITCHENAIDE.! We downsized to apartment Life……
Richard, I hope you feel better.
Best practice is to do quick rinse of dishes regardless of what the Cascade, etc. says. Save yourself the headache. Also, once a month run an empty load with a cup of vinegar in the top rack. It will breakdown lots of food and gunk in the discharge hose, remove hard water deposits, and deodorize the inside.
Thank you for this video! Our dishwasher was not cleaning our dishes, so following your video, I took it apart and cleaned it; was extremely dirty.
yup, our stainless steel walled Bosch DW works well.
Ok. I am now an expert at dishwasher, install/maintenance/ disposal. In the 18 years I have lived in my house I have had 8 dishwashers. The one that came with the house and died 6 months in. New whirlpool #2 lasted 3 mo before arm fell off. Replaced arm with service lasted 3 months...rinse/repeat...service 3 mo rinse/repeat... 4 times then they replaced whole thing. #3 did the same they replaced it. #4 worked for 1 yr and1 month. Motherboard blew. All whirlpools till now. Switched to Bosch #5 worked for almost 2yrs then died motherboard not covered under extended warranty that we paid for. #6 Samsung worked good for a few yrs under extended warranty and arm fell. Called for service... replaced arm. Then motor went, service replaced then died and they had no idea why so no replacement. Perhaps wiring they said and not covered. #7 samsung panel died under extended warranty so they cut a check and said we will not ever get another check or replacement via Samsung.
At this point whirlpool out, Bosch out, Samsung out, so we go with GE because our 15 yr old sink attached portable dishwasher in my bathroom still functional and our backup leads us to GE. This one lasts 5 yrs before I replace the temp sensor. Then the motor. Then the drainage hose. Then the water valve (attach point to h2o hose) which the filter was dirty and stuck. Then the heating element went but I don't use it so never mind. 7.5 yrs it lasted I gave up.
So bought the cheapest ge out there and it's internals are exactly like portable, confirmed with online research. So my hope is it lasts 5 yrs min.
Took apart old GE keeping all parts because they fit this one, all parts match. The plastic tub is now an outdoor cat house for abandoned cats in winter.
Long story I hate dishwasher makers who do not produce nor follow thru with their warranties.
Yes I'm good at maintenance and repair. Faulty products regardless of makers reputation.
Look at Canada's fifth estate analysis on dishwashers and makers customer service it was very enlightening even though we are in US.
My neighbour threw out their 2008 Kenmore dishwasher and there was nothing wrong with it. I installed it and it is still working for the last 4 years without any issues.
Hate my dishwasher! It won’t dry the dishes, and yes there is plenty of rinse aid in it. Had repair guy out from place we bought it and he said that it’s normal for newer dishwashers to not have the heat element not get hotter to save energy!
You’re probably much less likely to get the melted dishes you’d once find.
I know they tell you not to wash dishes before loading a washer, but I either wash by hand and use the machine to dry, or I soak the dishes in hot water to remove caked-on and larger pieces of food before placing them in for a wash cycle. I just much rather not deal with dismantling that machine for anything. Since I live alone, however, I tend to wash items by hand as I use them.
Folks, if you have the washers manual, it has a parts diagram that will help you. But if your not mechanical, let a pro do it.
Wimp
The worst work I've seen have come from so called "professionals"
@@davidmiedema2950 well if you read what I said, it wouldn’t pertain to you…..maybe🤣
My Maytag manual has nothing about parts of cleaning!
I had a dishwasher like this one. It was a real pain to clean the filter etc. Now I have a another made by Kitchen Aid. It is really seay to clean the filters.
HUGE TIP: Have your live-in mother-in-law do the dishes and you just have to give her room and board.
In an effort to save on electricity, we NEVER use the dry mode. Instead, when the wash cycle completes, we open the door, pull racks out, and let the heat in the dishes evaporate the water on them.
I'm not brave enough to do this. I took apart my dryer door and it did not come back together well. Now I hear about it from my wife all the time.
Been there on getting things back together. Look for a YT video b4 you start, and do take lots of photos as you work and make notes including on the photos. If it's complex, don't be in a hurry.
Don’t do that Jeff. Keep at it. Learn from mistakes and experiences. I never have had a repairman in my house for 10 yrs
do you have a video explaining how dishwasher wash dishes?
a) does it continuously spray new water?
b) or is it similar to a washing machine: it has wash cycles and each cycle a new set of water; rinse repeat?
Every time I do a repair job like this I cringe at all the plastic. Slow and steady lest a plastic piece cracks and adds to the cost.
-FJB, FYT
Holy moly. I thought Richard was dead! Nice to see your still kicking it bro……..
Why did you think that? He's still on the TV show and most videos.
@@tberkoff I figured with the new technology of deep fake - that they had super imposed his likeness for a higher viewership.
@@bobwhelk2117 If they were going to do that Roger would be in every episode. But he wouldn't be super imposed. He would be supaah emposed!
As they say always rinse food from your plates B4 placing it in the dishwasher. It helps tremendously. Thnx for the awesome tip.
I honestly never experienced any issues with dishwashers before. I can't say that about refrigerator, clothes washers, and dryers.
Thanks guys that was something I need to watch lots of information.
I never use the dry cycle. It smells like burning plastic, even though we don’t use any plastic. We just have glass and stainless steel.
I'm in a rental temporarily thanks to hurricane Ida. I haven't had a dw in over 40 years and really enjoying it. I will definitely include one in our rebuild. The rental house kitchen does not have a garbage disposal. Is this normal?
I'm an electrician and I've done alot of kitchens. Most of the time they do not ask us to run a circuit for a garbage disposal unless it is an add on. So a garbage disposal is extra. When you design your new kitchen make sure you ask for one if you want it.
Garbage disposals are not good for cesspools or septic tanks. Are you on city sewer?
@@Rhodeygirl as a plumber, I fully agree with not having a GD with septic. I think garbage disposals are a bad idea, (that’s my opinion)
This is a good video but. Every modern dishwasher has a filter that is easily accessible, so you don’t have to disassemble the unit to get to, as well as if the unit doesn’t fill with water, and you have a well or have old copper pipe sediment in the water, etc there is a filter on the water inlet valve where he said there is a solenoid, that’ll get clogged up and the unit can’t fill with water
Not fair! Show us putting it back together! Heck, I can take something apart!
Another thing that can happen is those dishwasher packets that you can buy and just toss in the plastic casing on them doesn’t dissolve all the way and can build up over time and clog the drain holes as well as the spray arms powder dishwasher detergent can also do this it happened to my dad his machine wasn’t cleaning dishes so I took it apart to find little pieces of plastic from those dishwasher packets along with built up powder I cleaned everything out and his over 15 year old dishwasher works like new again we both now use the gel detergent’s in a bottle not the little plastic packets
Gels are among the least effective DW detergents. Use a powder in box for best effect. His water might not be hot enough.
Great Tips. Thanks.
Thumbs up if you came to see the handsome man, Richard.
What about re-deposits of food?
My dad works for whirlpool he knows that dishwasher inside and out He services them and he does warrantee repairs on them to He also works on stoves refrigerators dryers washers That are made by whirlpool so anything you buy from Lowe’s he can work on in fact that’s what he’s been doing most of the time it’s just doing warranty work at the local Lowe’s
And if you want to make sure your dishwasher is doing a good job
Throw away those pods & use a liquid dishwashing detergent &
fill both slots up with detergent & let your kitchen sink run until the water is hot before starting.
Powder is cheaper and even better at washing the dishes.
Running the hot water in the sink is the key! Gets the pre wash water hot.
Thanks for the video.
I would just add to this video that you neglected the importance of Jet Dry. As a serviceman for 38 years I saw many people that neglected to use Jet-Dry in their dishwashers. This causes hardening spots and prevents the dishes from drying. If you use Jet-Dry all the time with the new dishwashers you will not experience wet dishes.
God I love this show!
When did they stop making dishwashers that heat up properly?
Thank you.
My idea of loading the dishwasher is getting my wife drunk!🙃
I think my 45 year old Maytac predates Torx screws...
Bought a condo a few years back. Went to clean the dishwasher, found half a broken wine glass in the filter!
To dry my dishes, I try to stop it midway through the dry cycle open the door and pull the racks out then they air dry.
1) plastic versus stainless still worse since less heat and 2) need jetdry
My DW never clogs because my wife insists in washing the dishes first in the sink. She said the dw is for sanitizing only.
i bought her flowers for her birthday.
My big complaint is that the coating on the racks doesnt last and then they begin to rust. And at over 100 bucks a pop to replace every few years, its too much money to have to spend on replacing the racks. So I used some Flex Seal and sprayed the areas of my rack that were beginning to rust. They werent bad, but were starting to rust. Seems to be working so far.
It was explained to me that when we rinse the dishes to clean before putting them in the DW the soap has very little dirt to work with, therefore the coating on the racks receives the harshness of the power of the soap and the coating breaks down sooner.
@@niroms8199 Interesting, but not what is causing my problem. Evidently the dryer element gets the dishes so hot, that over time, they begin to melt the plastic coating. I have already replaced both racks at over $100 a piece, once, and didnt want to do it again. So I read where Flex Seal could with stand the high temperature of the heating element and decided to just spray the bad spots and see if it holds. So far it has, but its only been a few months so only time will tell if it was a good idea.
@@michaelfisher7835 Suggest anyone taking this suggestion make sure the area to be coated is very very dry before coating.
There is a specific coating made for DW racks that you can apply.
@@wholeNwon What coating would that be? I would appreciate knowing.
Mist have missed the garbage disposal video that was mentioned.....
The main thing I want to know is how to take apart the washer arms. I have extremely hard water and sometimes the ends of the top washer arm gets blocked. I take a wire to it but I'd like to get it open so that I could clean it out more efficiently.
Yeh they really suck since you can’t access backside to clean holes. Glass and other pieces invariably get in there and fall back when trying to get them out with tweezers etc
1:50 That is the connection for the Turbidity sensor... NOT the heating element... Lol!!
The small wire size was the dead giveaway. Too small for a heating element.
We always rinse our dishes before they are placed in dishwasher!
I rinse all the heavy stuff off the dishes before I put them in. I think that keeps a lot of junk out.
good info! thanks! i have a on again off again leak at the corner underneath where the door seal stops near the floor of the dishwasher. how i load the dishes on the bottom rack influences this leak. any suggestions on how to fix it so i do not have to do ground maneuvers to avoid this leak? thanks
We have the same problem with an old Maytag. Replacing the door seal should be the easy fix - but we're running into issues finding old parts. Good luck!
As Richard states in the video, DW doors are not well sealed. The problem you describe might be a combination: the way you load it and/or the seal giving out. I can get our very primo Miele to leak if I run it MT, for example.
At the 2 lower corners of the door seal you will see 2 rubber blocks. They may be very dirty or cracked. They are easily replaced. Yes, how you load it can affect how the water is deflected inside. Also be sure you are not using too much DW detergent or that there is some residual SOAP on the dishes before loading. There must be no or only very little foaming during the wash cycles.
Great video. Very good info. But the best, quickest, and more energy efficient way of cleaning those nasty dishes is the old fashioned way…by hand.
Saves time, money, water, and electricity. What I call a “win-win”.
Good stuff!
You mean they don't work by magic???!!!!
4:55 I never understood the need to change up screw head components. Other than to add a layer of complexity to discourage the do it yourselfer from making their own repair.
Torx is better than Phillips as it is much harder to strip the head. You'll find more cars using Torx fasteners these days, for example.
Pretty much. For example, furniture makers usually use Robertson (square) tips. In construction I use SAE sockets, wrenches and nut drivers.. meanwhile in automotive there is all metric.
@@oambrosia As much as I love Torx I have to defend Phillips.
There's a big misconception about phillips. Most people are using a #2 phillips when they are supposed to be using a #1 Phillips, #3 Phillips or even a Posidriv. The same stripping would occur if you used one size off from the correct Torx bit size required. Try it for yourself with different sized bits. I've stripped many Torx screws in my early years of tool usage. Even when using the correct size of Torx I have stripped a few titanium screws that were expensive to replace. I believe the reason for that is because it is more expensive to machine a 6 point star accurately than it is a 4 point cross to exact dimensions.
@@JustinL614 I don't disagree using the wrong bit will cause issues...and don't forget to include JIS in the mix. But in general a Phillips is still far more likely to have an issue than Torx or square.
@@oambrosia Hey I might be wrong because I'm only going on personal experience. I'll have to see if someone did a comparison video of Phillips vs Torx.
My prevention for this is to cold rince ALL of the dirty dishes BEFORE putting them in the washer. The little girl in the TV ad says, "What does the dishwasher do?" when mommy pre-rinses. Well, the dishwaasher deep cleans and sanitizes. The tpical homeowner is NOT going to have the washer up on a table or bench where that kind of service is easy. When down on your knees and reaching in and up, its a royal PIA.
Step 1. Buy her flowers for valentine's day
Are the full episodes coming back anytime soon?
looks like a cheezy american design. Our Bosch DW has a sump pan that extends under all the locations that might leak and has a sump pump to empty this sump pan. No more ruined floors from unnoticed leaks.
I have a drain under mine. It leads to the basement system.
What about hard watee ...diff soap/cleaner doesnt do anything and i took it all apart and it was cleaned with clr so its basically spotless and everything works on it too 🤷
Never soap...only DW detergent. Powder best.
Our GE is tooless
Nice 👍
What if you do not have a disposal? Is that a good thing or more problematic?
No disposer means you likely don't need the loop.