What happens when you spend $10,000 on Anti Lock Brakes
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I've always wanted to see Rob's abs
Rob you're looking young, great and stress free, that means its time for some 6 rotor content 🙃
True
I want the 12 rotor
I also noticed he's looking healthier. Those Athletic Greens? lol
12 rotor, 6 or even 4. I'd watch him do spaghetti probably.
Trueeee
The wild thing about watching Rob's videos is you'll sometimes find yourself watching a movie about ABS installation.
😂 it's a great movie, this kinda knowledge is priceless
I like making videos like this. It’s a weird mix of “how to” and wow what a pain in the ass vlog that most people only show the result
@@RobDahm It's really appreciated in the community by the people who actually care about the craft. The willingness to share not only the highlights, but the full process (and especially the evolution of the systems and choices and hardware you've used and are using!), the reasoning, and the sourcing for everything you're doing is fantastic and almost never seen. A lot of youtubers/racers/builders will share some things, but never enough of what matters about the process and why certain choices are important, either to appease the algorithms with shorter videos or because they are trying to protect some egotistical bullshit as their "own secret sauce" for some imagines competitive advantage.
But you consistently show how the sausage is made (and how much Isaiah LOVES playing with your sausage), and we can't thank you enough!
@@RobDahmit feels much more like an honest conversation than any kind of marketed content. You’re a gifted teacher.
@@RobDahm I liked seeing the date on your laptop showing October 4th - really puts into perspective why there's sometimes 2 weeks before a new video drops!
Seeing Rob grow from the original rainbow spaghetti loom to fully sealed milspec has been mana from heaven for my soul. Our little boys all grown up 😭😄
I'm still in my rainbow spaghetti phase with Rotaru, hahaha.
I was so excited the whole time.
The quality and caliber of work you guys pump out in such a short time without a staff of 30 people is quite literally astonishing.
It's fun to see creators leave in, accidentally or intentionally, little things here and there from their fun outside the topic they're a creator on. Pretty sure the audience is nearly all car guys, I am myself, didn't expect Rob to be a fellow Star Citizen. (52:50 you can see the icon on the desktop)
from what I remember, Rob has been a gamer and/or PC geek as long or possibly longer than he's been a car guy. He was on the rx7club forums before youtube existed.
@@scotty305he’s had a rotary I think for his whole driving life and one of his videos in Michigan he mentions the computer store(s) he owns/has owned. The car nerd for all of us car nerds
@klm2fm4 yeah he was/is in the IT industry
Also that moment he got stuck in the car window lmao
Yeah I caught that too. O7
This is the only channel where an hour long video feels like 20 minutes keep up the good work.
Can't wait to see this back on track after this crazy upgrade.
Yay electronics talk time from an electronics engineer! @25:20 when you are talking about how the wheel speed sensor works. Its changing the current in the loop based on the magnetic field. Using Ohms law V=IR, if the current across the resistor in series in the loop is changing, the the voltage across the resistor (what you are measuring) also has to change. So you're still reading an analogue signal signal. It just works in a different way.
There are PWM wheel speed sensors as well!
This crew has to be the best youtube mechanics. I havent seen anyone else that can do full custom wiring harnesses, full custom brakes, welding, tube chassis, full engine customization, making weird engine swaps work with factory body harnesses, tuning on the computers, custom drivetrains, literally anything possible at this point
Rob thanks for the free and open sharing of what you learn as you go along on your projects.
really excited to see how you put ABS on this, the only aftermarket ABS systems i've ever seen is people using C5 vette units!
BMW MK60 Bosch ABS has been the easiest. It's a stand alone system and all the parts are cheap.
I would say Conti product are superior compared to Bosch atleast in terms of performance and options but they are quite expensive
I love this format of your videos 1hr+ of car building feels like I’m watching a movie of just everything any car guy loves with all the knowledge in the world. Thank you 🙏
Tryhards: remove ABS from their track cars because they think they're Kimi Räikkönen
Rob: Installs ABS because he's humble and realizes the threshold braking meme is just that, a meme, because if you think you can out brake ABS you can't because a pro would never say he could but "it depends on the conditions"
Motorsport ABS is something else. It's a totally different level. Standard OEM ABS on cars (until about five to ten years ago) wasn't really all that great. The trickle-down effect of GT racing using more and more powerful (and accurate) ABS and TC systems directly led to the development of things like PTM in Corvettes and Cadillacs being so easy to manage.
Yeah, exactly right. Plus the computer can have each of the 4 wheels on the threshold independently, and it monitors and adjusts them hundreds of times per second.
I'm a purist, I want to feel as much possible relying on my skills = no ABS or AWD or else. You can race clean or on roids, I don't judge as long as it's fair game.
@@ForeheadPushUpsexactly. People don’t understand the difference between being a purist and going for the fastest time possible.
every gt3 car has abs but I’ll never put that shit in my Miata
"my buddie Niel sent me these in exchange for... sexual favors" 15:34
i love you Rob lol
I was looking for this comment 😂
@@rockovincetti4869 same bro 😂
I was also listening to it and thought, did I just hear that correctly? Reverse 😂
Damn this is some legit racecar tech. Rob is such a car nerd to the point of ocd and it’s so relatable. As always this content is incredible.
I'd be extremely careful with that Wilwood pedal box. if the balance bar is 3/8-24 thread like some of their other ones, it can and will bend or break with ABS since you can basically apply an infinite amount of pressure to the pedal without lockup, unlike non-abs. And trust me, when you brake too late in a corner or someone spins in front of you on the track, you do apply as much force as you can if the car isn't slowing fast enough. I've had two fail, and i know of other failures as well. I have videos of the bolt flexing under normal pressure if you care to see it. Tilton and other manufacturers use at least a 7/16" bolt for this reason.
id add the bendix masters ( might even work for automatic/computerised controllable brakes/clutch-pedal feature feed-back/or-automatically-slipping/shifting ect ) N9 robs next to ABS-🛑-brakes california company that restores them, love mine all the feel plus dialling it the force feed-back ( using the stock mathematics at 6:1 petals so there's more travel ect, willwood 17"in/carbon-kits on all-4 corners ) aka more PSI/help = wife/mom mode as there smaller/less-brawny then me/6ft~ 220lb and yes my car is heavyweight at 4k+lb's/dodge charger aka similar to there 1970~ challenger but my car rocks a BBM/hemi and instead of being a 6speed it's a TR6070 TT/boosted car 😉
make sure that the fluid stays clean and add filler's!! ( parker industrial makes a really nice 4-JCB 200-4k-psi/normally-ABS-pressures units that works in line mine are on the returns/bleeds side of the system as i copycated a 1960-80's TA-race-car ish ) my master doesn't like water/dirty aka vary picky as well as the system rob added as iv been eyeing on installation for ride/daily/charger's , O by the way others have used gm or ford junkyard ABS systems sorry not as up on programming/hacking ( 2013 Shelby gt350? also for electric power steering rack ect, my information is aimed for my charger's but hope that helps someone else out, my goals are not to wrecking my daily mostly and airbags/actively-SRS are harder to installation than really good brakes-systems ect ) but it's cheaper than directly paying bosh/continental as the lawyer fees aren't paying/including in the pricing ect
as for the abs-pump ( wonder if the part number crossover to a gm numbers as the one in robs hand looks similar to the normal big3 just he's got the reprogram function that most are locked 🔒out on modifying ) look at late 90's gm car's/truck there's a reason for orientation as the circuit board can get fluid/electric/programming failure-mode/mechanical valve failure-ect on it and wig it the TFO aka customer/silent-business-partnership-there-caddy came into the shop i was working at after a crashed at 40mph~ ( smaller city drive ) and curbing-a-rim-ect so yes torque vectoring works but it also can work against you/car
BTW thanks i thought 💭about adding one more and a balance bar ( but let the computerised ajust it with a manual override under my dashboard as i don't want to clutter it up or change the classic style-ect as it's not likely to get much attention dailying ect 😉 ) but figured that i would let ABS/me sorting out hydraulically but maybe i should reconsider that ( started out with wedge/906's heads and had more room but now with D8's/hemi's and a cross-ram intake's and turbocharged headers it's cramped on the driver's side firewall, 1 turbocharger is actually at my feet/floorboard to give a vision of were it's sitting down pipe is hugging the block and bell housing+firewall ) and make sure the bar can handle 0-60lb-full-boosting ( = 1200psi as my kit wouldn't let me go any higher hydraulic lines PSI's wise ( other wise 🤔2-3k maximum from my memory in 2018~ ) or the clippers 6-P seals will run the risks of failure ) help or 0-300lb unboosted/assted brake 🛑or panic attack stomping or drag/HPDE/autoX event's ect
racing is at most 4 ( realistically more likely once a year, as time vs $$ getting in the way vs car+me being ready to full-hammer 🔨down 😉 🤠 ) times a year ( 30 minutes/full session on circuit at most given or taken as that's about what a hellcat or corvette should/can do dealer deliveryed to owner/end experience for not being a full racing la mons 🇫🇷 /24h racing car ) for my build/60's-charger's consideration, the rest of the time its used like a regular hellcat/higher end car would be with a 30-65 year-old people/personal-use/owners
wondering if using the 64-2/LSX or grayscale triggers would be helpful for increased activity/information as rob says that currently= 2in every chance/changing vs about 1"inch, on my back tires that more as there 30-33in tall by 12 wide fronts are about the same size/26T as rob's 4-rotor but probably narrower ( @10'in~ ) as i sofar don't have a wide-body ( might add 1967-68 nasscar/prototype fender's/body-kit but that's above my personal skills and $$ for now so maybe later on 😉 ) and not cutting ✂as id like to have good body taste's 😉
@@richardprice5978 You are nuts man! Good luck with your build, sounds awesome!!!
You guys are seriously one of kind. Sick build y’all.
Look forward to watching this, would love motorsport ABS, unfortunately, like a swquential gearbox, its a bit out of reach but on the must have list.
I worked in the factory that made his Valve Block for 10 years. That’s a Mk 100. The tolerance’s on those blocks are less than the width of a human hair. They used to check the tolerances using lasers, but you can only scan the outside of the blocks.
Back in 2021ish, they bought a Cat-Scan machine to scan the whole block sample and have the computer measure them. A ton of tech goes into making sure those blocks work right all the time and every time!
Wake up samurai! New Rob Video just dropped 🔥 and it’s the 3Rotor yes!
Isaiah never fails to impress with his beautifully fabricated parts and his beautifully sculpted body
Rob's explanation about the electrical has got more cutaways than a Liam neeson fight scene.
I work for Continental. Super proud to see a product that I've worked on go into such an awesome project!!
I was half anticipating a blueballs cliff-hanger for the ending.
What a massive difference that ABS module has made!
I replaced every single wire in my car doing essentially what Rob is doing. I used tefzel and mil-spec wires with duetsch connectors. Thankfully my car is 50 years old so I have fewer circuits, but I would say the shrink tube is the toughest part. Trying to put 10ft of wire through the shrink tube is a pain.
Very nice, the same block did Philipp Kaess install in his lightweight Abarth last year, an enormous advantage. You guys with sensor-fetish should combine 🙂 Good Luck and have fun.
Oh yes please. Limo vs 4 rotor would be wild!
Seams like the way to go.. i also have problem with abarth ABS/ESC mostly that u can’t turn off ESC with sometimes is way to agressive on some tighter sections when u want rotation…
FD goals! Best car RUclipsr! We’re not just watching someone scream at the camera about their rare JDM parts.
as a electrical engineer i must say love the wiring stuff, you do it the most correct way possible.
Great episode, outstanding effort by all involved! Gotta admit, I absolutely love your long form content. I feel like I get a better chance to settle down and actually absorb and enjoy! Keep up the great work team!
The level of tech that goes into one of these builds is mind blowing. This channel actually holds my interest enough to learn about skill i probably won't ever need lol.
53:00 canbus gas 120 ohm resistors on each end in parallel. To emulate the canbus you have to replace it with a 60 ohm resistor, not a 240 ohm... if 2 resistors are the same, in series it's double the resistance and in parallel it's half
Crazy how different the 3 rotor is now compared to when I first started watching. Keep on daddy Dahm!
Hi Rob! I'm an electrician from Australia and id like to give you a small tip or a time saver for your wire pair twisting. When needing to do that on electrical switch gear we use a battery drill. Put the two wires in the chuck of the drill and tighten down. Make sure the other end of the pair are firmly in your connector in the vice, stand back so the wires are not slack and then very gently use the drill and that will twist them for you very neatly.
Love all your videos and hope this little tip helps you out in future!
Cheers!
the best sound rotor on the internet cant wait to finish my build
keep doing an amazing work Rob
Rob your videos are something that I can't find anywhere else. Such trick stuff and a great source of knowledge. I'm very much a guy who loves going fast but more than that I appreciate the engineering that goes into motorsports and building race cars and there is not a single channel out there that encapsulates that better than yours. Very grateful for the videos. Thank you.
Suspension geometry, weight transfers, braking efficiency are so important for grip and braking distance. Installing fittings in your module port holes will prevent having to tap/insert in case you strip threads connecting your lines in the future.
Working on the tune for my car right now as i watch some rob dahm, hes been my inspiration to learn how to tune and build cars! Seeing my racecar idol grow and learn is so cool
Thank you for tightening your hitch ball! I can rest easier now knowing you guys wont lose all of your hard work and expensive new trailer and possibly lives lost over a completely preventable issue that is a simple fix.
Also great job on all of your hard work and expertise. Excellent job on the harness to Rob, Excellent work with the fabrication Isaiah, Ethan god job. Joel congratulations.
I sincerely doubt you guys have time to read this but if you do... keep up the good work! God bless
Abs warning goes to you dash light. And the abs failure goes to ecu. I’m so glad I watch you do this. They really really hide all the information about how it works. I went and pulled old expired patients to have more information.
Just have a look to the manual chapter 5.2.5.
It clearly states the difference between those two lamps. The "failure" lamp indicates every small failure, so you will be able to connect to the RSX ABS using the diagnostic tool and will find out exactly, what the issue is.
If the warning lamp comes on too, ABS is disabled.
Bro.. huge respect for Isaiah's tube work.
the custom hard brake line bending montage was awesome!
Isaiah killed those brake lines
Awesome video
your wiring gets cleaner and cleaner every recap. nice work
Crazy that i was just looking at the bosch abs system and Rob puts one out by rsx abs. More knowledge for me tonight.
A one hour video?! Oh how blessed we are!
Loving this episode, very informative! Well done Rob, Ethan, Isaiah and Jo. Looking forward to see how the update work ln track
I never thought rob would ever get ABS, as ABSurd as it sounds, it’s ABSolutey astonishing to see the change
Agree. He was ABStaining from the ABSence of ABS
Volvo V70 has a racing grade ABS unit that works wonders for everything short of GT3 racing.
This aircraft mechanic is so proud of you guys applying EWIS. Yor great work deserves it!
All of this sounds like my Lexus 2nd gen GS300. I mean literally! The ABS is so integrated into the performance of the engine it's astounding.
cutting all the wire out, wow. always balls deep on this channel. awesome content
You are so frickin inspiring!!!!! I want to do stuff to your quality level. I’ve only been working on cars for about 2years now and the first project I did was to ls swap a Volvo 240. And I want the final product to be like yours. Love your vids❤
Rob mate, your love of what you do is amazing.
Also, you've given me an awsome canbus tip. I use CAN on my 3D printers and I had no idea I could use one 240Ohm resistor instead of terminating with two 120s for testing. Going to make my bench flashing so much less annoying.
Huge respect for the shoutout to your Dad, enjoy every moment with him m8 👍
I swear out of the many car channels I watch, this is the only one where I think wait what ?? and then tap back 40 Seconds to listen again. Thank you for sharing this adventure. Oh and never has heat shrink been so sexy 🤭
1 hour of my life well spend !
Thank you for the content.
Amazing stuff.
Yall are an incredible team.
In a pinch you can stretch a heat shrink with heat and something to stretch it while it's soft. For that size of heat shrink I'd probably find 2 steel rods, put one in the vise and have the other in your hand. Have someone heat the shrink while you gently but firmly and hold tension on the rods. Stop when just over the desired size, and hold until cool
I do commercial vehicle diagnostics and our abs and roll stability stuff is cool as hell to see it working, tie that in to see what you do all the time makes it pretty epic.
I feel like you've hit mad scientist mode on this build.
Perfectly executed explanation on abs!
Only rob could make an hour long video on brakes and me watch the whole thing.
Love your videos Rob. I love that your philosophy mirrors my own when it comes to doing jobs. I like your process.
I saw the car at gridlife laguna and noticed how shiny the abs unit was. This explains a lot lol
3 rotor sounding nutty af
Rob that ecu connector that goes onto the abs pump is also used by JCB for there ecu’s they have lots of problems with bad connections on the pins make sure the pins are tight onto the male pins
Rob, you and Sarah-n-Tuned doing a collab would be AWESOME. You two are basically the only ones that go WAY into depth of what actually makes a car tick, and how servicing and proper assembly OEM-style works in a car, regardless of its purpose.
ALSO: YAAAAAAAYYYYY MORE MOTORSPORT ABS! :D :D :D
when the product you buy comes in a case like that, you know it isnt cheap 😂
Looking trim Rob! All thanks to AG1 😉
Sweet sweet job my man
You should look into the jackery. It comes with solar panels tooo perfect for track because you can let it charge while sitting out in the blistering heat and it def holds up to its name for high power consumption because it’s recommended for outdoor power tool use for carpentry
Twisted pair reject noise from changing magnetic fields and shielding blocks electrical noise. Ideally, shielded twisted pair is used to block both sources of noise.
Good vid Rob, nice work on the harness. The wiring is interesting to I assume most other people here we avoid wiring as much as possible. Really shows that when you set your mind to something and put in the work learning the in's and out you can accomplish anything. As a fan of the track I really like this content about how to turn a street car into a track weapon. Keep it coming. Werd up Fab Daddy! nice work as usual.
Anytime Rob is like “it’s that simple” I’m like 😵💫😵💫😵💫
Dahm and the team will be up there with Hennessy in 5 years time if they keep this up. Full support absolutely love the work you guys do
If he's there in 5 years I'll buy you a McDonald's sprite
@@Bubbaj226 I’ll hold you to that 😂
"I'm doing this half assed, properly" this is when you can do a job correctly but it's on your own stuff.
This video was so entertaining An educational I wish some other motorsport RUclipsrs that do builds would watch your videos to see how it’s done not talk too much not do two little just right
Bout time I’ve been eagerly waiting for a new video !
Firman generators is where it's at IMHO. For off grid use. I've moved to a solar generator powered by (used to be Honda) now Firman. Run it 2 hrs a day for 24hrs of power
what labelling machine is that i need one and a few more tools to follow in your footsteps my first wiring job was making a pair of tailights for a ford ranger now im collecting tools to make my first engine and chassis harnesses for my project(turbo ford 302 swapped jdm mitsubishi chariot) and a turbo m50 e30 as my first deep dive into wiring. your wiring video gave me some great ideas on how to really tidy up my work, so i always have to watch a rob video no matter what
The Sensor setup you're talking about around 25 minutes is just a basic voltage divider circuit. Sensors in general are just materials that have varied resistances of a predictable amount to a certain input(temp, light, in this case magnetism). Don't know much about vehicle sensors but all sensors work this way in one way or another, whether the second resistance is baked into the sensor itself or into the device reading it.
calmly says "received them for sexual favors" rob is the best lol
42:10 i've seen loctite fail on that after a while to. The best solution i've come up with so far is castelated nuts. Tighten the nuts out of that nut, mark the spot where the pin goes and drill it just a little against the wall of the nut, with a just large enough for a pin (the type with the metal ring around it) to pass through. The ones i've modified in the past haven't given up the ghost yet. FYI, those balls are consumables. You should replace them after a few years of use.
The hole saw deal.....lol.....I'll drill a hole through a piece of wood, and clamp it to the area I need to use the hole saw on, and it acts as a guide when you don't have a pilot hole.
You should put together some wiring kits from basic to advanced and sell them. I tend to look for stuff like that when working on my own stuff.
Pompadour-faux hawk-mullet;
Innovating in rotaries and hairstyles
Heat exchanger work more efficiently the greater the temperature differential. So it is better To run oil heat exchanger in parallel.
Good work
Looking good Rob, abit late on the video but been busy. I like the whole ABS thing but it's so freaking expensive :( About the brakes and stopping of the car. The ABS will help alot, but at higher speeds they will slip at a point in time without the proper grip. I see that you have been using "street" tires for the track.
Get some street slicks that is allowed on the street and works very well on the track, i have run Yokohamas and Toyo R888's over the years and it helps alot. What also needs to be added is bigger brakes at the rear to compensate for the fronts. And adding a brake adjuster to the rear, if you can do that with the new unit it would be great. As you want the rears to "lock" at just abit more pressure then the front.
When i was racing the 4 rotor, i did just have a brake box and no abs or anything. And with the adjustments we found the point of where it would lock the brakes in the rear at about 10-15% more pressure on the pedal. So it's important to get that balance right. As you would be amazed how much extra braking force you get with a proper adjusted rear balance.
Also for the weight and size of the car, do 11-12 inch in the rear with 315 or bigger, and atleast 10" with 295's in the front. That will not slip on a track even without ABS :)
About the dry sump tank, figure out where you are missing weight and try and put it there. Some do put it in the rear of the car. In the wheel well on the passenger side does work as well.
And about the oil cooling, what i did was use a Y to split the oil comming off the Drysump pump and run seperate lines in to each cooler, then spread the oil in the front and rear after the filter. That kept the oil cool and chill. Never saw about 88 degreece celcius on the track.
Comming off the track was another story, so make sure to put a fan on the coolers to cool down the oil once you are not going too fast. As the temps will rise fast to 110 decreeece celcius after just a minute or so. And with a slow cooldown lap it will be over 100 with no fans once your are in the pits.
Oh and like others are stating, try and get a brake pedal box that is not willwood, some of them can't handle all the pressure and i have seen one brake during braking on the track aka no brakes :(
Yes a Rob video! Was hoping for an update on the custom Rotary engine
Rob Dahm just said he's not a good builder 😂😂😂 Rob make me seem like I try to put a square in the circle hole on those children's toys 😂
16:20 I have one of those 🤣 but I only use the buildin one if I’m in the tent or there is no pomp , I think those are made for backpackers to save space 🤷🏼♂️
Finally the wiring madness ❤
Bro.. get some “solar generators”, no you don’t have to use solar panels , if you want quiet. You can charge them up and take them with you. I have one that I can run my rv for a few days if I’m not running the big rooftop ac. It can run the ac no problem but it eats up the power obviously. Look up the Bluetti ac200max. You can charge your laptops many times without any noise. You can also run the lights on your trailer if needed. It’s a game changer for my Airstream when I park where I shouldn’t.
Hey Rob! When Camping or (Glamping) and weight isn’t an issue for comfort I’d recommended and fishing bed like a cot but fully padded with insulation. Definitely recommend in the UK!
I love how Rob throws in so many sly sexual comments/jokes but doesn't give any extra attention to them. 15:32 thank you Neil!!!
as a machine builder. Zip ties are indeed your friend. I regularly go though a 1000 standard + however many small and long ones a month. Then there are those months where I go though way more then that.
Also the twisted pair is indeed for signal intererty. (same with internet cabling) It works by making sure both have the same interferance so it automaticly compensates for it
Congrats joel mate!
Rob seeing you doing all this realy makes me want to go down the rabbit hole of Rotary swappig my S2000 xD
Such a good watch