I know a truckie and i keep telling him it's coming. He said the same thing. A robor can't do his job. It's like no it can do it and do it way more efficiently
Yeah they can send spaceships outer space and back autonomously but airplanes need Pilots! And by the way if there's autonomous semi truck you can't forget about the autonomous cars. Because people kill people willing and unwilling
What baffles me is how people just focus on trucking jobs. Do you really think once AI is sophisticated enough to guide a 60 ton vehicle down an icy road it won't be able to do the majority of what's done on computers by white collar workers? This isn't just going to be truckers. It's going to be a lot of us.
@@shaneskull820 White Collar jobs yes, most programming will stay. As a CS major, yeah, there's a long fucking way to go before you can teach an AI to program efficiently since a lot of it is critical thinking that AI just can't do.
@@servebotfrank4082 - I'd respectfully disagree with you there. As a programmer myself for many years, I don't think our job is conceptually as complex as we let on. Sure, if you're creating a foundational technology such as a new protocol or codec then it requires intense critical thinking, but the majority of applications are essentially remixed MVC-like applications with less than 50 or so fundamental building blocks. Look at a highly complex gaming engine such as Unreal Engine and view their Blueprint visual programming tool. It doesn't take much of a leap to see how we could train AI to leverage a similar flow-based model. I could easily see programming tools that make the composition of most web, desktop and mobile applications fairly turnkey for 90% of scenarios.
I worked in an AI lab for a national-scale bank in Canada, my VP basically said that I was to figure out how to automate loan officers' jobs using basic technology (low-hanging fruit) to AI (things like Optical Character Recognition or Computer Vision for document verification). Don't think this is far away, whole departments (ranging from 30 to 50 people each) are doing basic tasks that pass off as doing a lot of work on the surface but once you tally up the numbers is not a lot of stuff done while being paid salaries that can be $50K. If you think white-collar automation is faraway, then you are wrong.
You're so right. I used to know a guy who was a bank manager. He hated that all loan decisions were now made by a computer. He had no input any more, meaning nobody could look into someone's eyes and judge whether they were really a good bet or if they just knew how to write a good business plan with the right numbers. That was almost 15 years ago. It's obviously only going to get worse.
White collar creative here (writing, video, content creation, etc) and even in that highly specialized and changing field automation is taking more and more of my job responsibilities. In the short term, it’s nice and frees me up to focus on the aspects of my job that require creative focus. But there’s a big gulf between the aspects of my job that I value and the aspects of my job that my employer values. I punch a clock, wear slacks, and sit at a desk most days. I’d consider myself a white collar worker and the machine learning team within our company terrifies me. I wasn’t thinking about my future in any positive or tangible way until Andrew Yang popped up on my radar
I’m a computer science major in college. The amount of jobs that my fellow class men are going to automate using AI is insane. People don’t realize how many cubicle jobs are going to be gone over night with thousands of people blindsided by their sudden loss of employment.
Sonkwa Sonkwa luckily I’m 25 and don’t think I’ll struggle learning a different trade , I feel bad for the older drivers that trucking is all they know
Retraining is just unrealistic. Truckers are not going to become software or robotics engineers. Noether will nost retail workers or manufacturing workers. You migjt be able to retrain less than 10% of them. Also those fields will be flooded too.
James Loehr I dont know why so many folks think that the only option is for them to get a Master’s degree in computer engineering or to become a doctor or lawyer. Isn’t it perfectly realistic to expect perhaps even most of them to gravitate towards the skilled trades? We’re in such dire straights that I’m sure a number of companies would be willing to train individuals from the bottom up, and family oriented truckers would probably be a reliable investment for the most part. Contrary to popular belief, we are a looong ways aeay from automating plumbing and electrical wiring and the like, and those are great pathways to starting your own business. When it comes to automation, I’m not sure why we focus so much on truckers - a population with ample opportunities to find other decent paying work - instead of the intellectually disabled population who will have no other option because they’re more or less incapable of learning new skills. There are probably way more of them than truckers.
And we'll have a One World technocrat overlord/council that effectively runs and owns the entire thing... the rest of us being disposable biological matter without any real worth, at least all of the men and the ugly women. It's either that, some kind of collapse due to natural disaster or other environmental factor that effectively resets the entire world, or it's all out infinite Totaler Krieg. Pick one. lol
It should be noted that IQ plays a role in this as well. Replacing "Low-IQ" jobs with automated ones means the "Low-IQ" people have no where to go, regardless of how motivated they might be to find adapt and find another job.
Yes I know someone at my job great guy nice hard worker but I can tell his limited on what he can do idk how to explain this as my iq. Is just 120 but doesn't really mean anythiny
"They would really block the roads for something that's more efficient, kills less people?" Millionaire Joe just can't imagine what might drive people. Millionaire since the 90's, he can't remember.
Don Timberman I don’t think I would trust my child to get on an self driving bus too school. And if that’s the case. That have too be some sort of worker on that bus too monitor the children
Edward Borne Ya I didn’t think school busses. But you are right about that. Think they will do volunteer bus Monitors like to do volunteer crossing guards? But ya you can’t leave 30 kids alone for a hour. Know when you have self driving cabs it may be cheap enough to just order a car to take them to school.
dude for as long as I live people will be driving cab/uber.. buses go slow, transport can be managed because the money is there... it's not viable to have robot cabs/uber until ALL cars are robotic.. think about it.
@@edwardborne9809 good point about supervision, they can also use more smaller buses with video monitoring and action team, I heard Schwarzenegger still likes politics... yeah this is all crazy talk just because this dude is Asian doesn't mean he knows wtf he is talking about.. America is the tech leader, always was, does anyone even realize that?
@@dontimberman5493 let me tell you a story from a time not all that long ago... I was left alone from age 5 until the grave, I'm not there yet. your world view is a lie
Nick Not only that, but you wouldn’t be discouraged into putting your resources that you have into what you love, but if it fails. You wouldn’t be left in the shitter. And can choose different paths for yourself. Letting the market and economy drive you towards what you both love to do, and is monetarily possible.
Nick if you didn't realize there are 12 months in a year instead of 10 and that makes 14.4k on this calculation... maybe you are part of the low end to benefit by this measure
AI/automation will be present in every industry as we go further. Our school systems will have to adapt in a way that prepares people for a world and job market ruled by these technologies
@@JohnSmith-iv5le I meant that we should teach students different skill sets that prepare them for a job market where technology is now replacing human ressources.
@@historicaltruther6300 we shouldn't ban progress. As humans we are made to adapt like we did when phenomenons like agriculture, money, the industrial revolution took place.
As a automotive/diesel mechanic, I know one day my job will be automated. I’m just trying to save up enough money so I can buy some land and learn how to farm and have my own water supply so I can be self sufficient.
My husband is a Welder. Automation is a worry for us. We are both 29, home owners and have 2 small boys. Its scares me a lot because he's our bread winner and his job may be gone soon.
I wouldn't worry too bad. Plumbers use welding quite a lot and they're not going to be affected by automation for a long time. Should be pretty easy to transfer.
@@cgasucks Currently, the technology exists where the welding work that would traditionally require a highly skilled welder can be done by someone with little to no experience, which would def devalue the work. Much of it is (or can be) automated quite easily.
5:25 that 100% would happen or something similar. They threaten striking over the smallest contract disputes. Go tell union truckers they are being replaced and see how quick shit hits the fan. I know its inevitable but if they dont handle that transition carefully it will get ugly
@@midget_spinner8449 There are a lot of benefits to automation (eg. less accidents, more efficient etc.), automation shouldn't be looked at as a bad thing even though we need to work through the problems it makes.
From 1:15 to 1:45 that is exactly what I've been going through for the last nearly two years since I destroyed my leg. Back at work since Tuesday this week and I haven't had the dark thoughts that I was having and I feel just in general happier.
I can relate. Yang described my current unemployment situation to the tee... To have a president that understands nuances like this to drive policy would be incredible #yang2020
The middle class will do what it does best and consume until ai comes knocking for their jobs too... grim out look but we will socially degrade to places like india with the extreme opposites of wealth and poverty gated communities vs slums. At best massive civil unrest more likely guerrilla civil war
For people who don't think this is possible in the next decade you should research what is possible now with AI and self driving cars. Not just in this country but elsewhere. Also I recommend reading the recent news articles about huge corporations investing in self driving startups. 20 years ago I didn't think I would ever see a self driving car in my lifetime but now they exist and there is even DIY kits which is scary and crazy to me. Think about this: what do you think would be harder to create and bring to production? A.Self driving car that has to drive around residential areas and avoid hundreds of obstacles coming from every direction. B. Self driving truck that mainly has to drive from point A to point B on a straight stretch of road in the middle of nowhere. answer: Self driving trucks are coming.
I know. A. I. will do it all better. They are working on automating loading and unloading trucks too. The first generation will digitally chain the trucks together for long hauls. One human driver will be able to watch over a dozen automated trucks behind him. Sort of like a train. . The next generation will be fully automated with one human watching over hundreds like a traffic controller.
@@techbro1979 You clearly have no idea about how trucking works. The semis today have more electronics than ever and they are proving to be completely unreliable. Tons of issues with sensors. If they can’t even get that right, how could they ever successfully guide a 40 ton vehicle down a road in icy conditions? Not to mention backing into docks? Self driving trucks are pretty far into the future.
@@techbro1979 you've never drove a truck with a 50 foot trailer have you? It's not as easy as you think.. I guarentee you couldn't even pass all the test and the pretrip because your not as smart as you think you are buddy
Truckers will lose , the people that fix the trucks will lose, people that manufacture the vehicles to begin with will lose. The whole automotive industry is going to Implode within 15 years. People won't be needed to build, fix or drive any kind of new vehicle. Your main car dealerships will have 2 or three techs working just keeping an eye on the robots. The other 20-50 won't be required. Big grocery stores won't have people on the tills anymore as every item will scan itself on exit of the store, The shelves will be stacked by robots. Coffee shops won't need people, restaurants won't need people other than maybe the chef, eventually they will be replaced too. Places like phone shops and Apple stores don't need people, if your device is faulty you just place it on a tray, you'd type on a screen what is wrong, the tray has a scanner on it that wirelessly removes all of your data and puts it onto another phone, that phone rises on another tray next to your phone, you take the replacement and your old phone falls through a trap door to be taken away to a factory where a team of robots remove all the components then builds a new phone with the viable bits which then gets returned to the store for the next person. After that the store is closed down, when you get a problem you'd just ping the manufacturer who sends a drone to wherever you are and swaps your phone for a new one. No factory/manual worker is safe. After that it will be google, Microsoft, Facebook etc laying off all of it's workers, as A.I will just come up with all the new ideas and do all the programming. A.I can do it now to some level. Then its gp's, why have a human there that you tell your issue to when you can just tell a robot which scans the biggest library of symptoms and issues available in a matter of seconds and can then prescribe a drug or treatment or refer you to see a specialist. A.I and robots are going to change this world drastically.
read more Finally. Now we can actually focus on spiritual growth because it’s the whole reason we’re here on earth in the first place and have an easier way of life.
Truckers aren’t going to be the first to go. It will be finance, white collar jobs. Creating AI to calculate, manipulate data, create reports etc is a much easier feat than taking over trucking
The Outdoors no they have been down sizing corporate jobs for awhile it doesn’t take much to automate index match functions, basic algebra especially if the data is all ready in various data bases. AI has all ready wrote symphonies, etc.
Jets have the best auto piloting software in the world, they still require two pilots, why? Because of risk vs reward, the same will hold true for trucking. Yang is fear mongering, we need to worry about important things like advancing antibiotics and reducing obesity.
@@worm2879 you compare Elons business to Boeing? Elon frequently addresses issues almost daily. Boeing is more of a bloated conglomerate that gets in its own way. Boeing knew of the problem, but still rolled with it.
Andrew is right about a lot of things, including regarding automation. The one thing I think he gets wrong is timing. All of his arguments rely on the timing being right, i.e. AI will take these jobs over soon. I think he's wrong on that, I think it will be a few decades before these jobs are fully automated and I think the world will have time to adjust. The pace of advancement in AI is overhyped by the media and people like Elon Musk. We're not there yet.
In theory Automotive trucks seems like a great idea. My fear though is some terrorist organization hacks into the network and causes havoc on the roads. 60 minutes did a piece on this very topic a few years back. Very interesting segment
They're working on tele-presence where a remote person can take over control of the truck in tough situations, similar to how drone pilots can take over a drone if needed. Once they're on the road they'll have human co-pilots for the first 3-5 years and then phase them out quickly in order to reap massive profits. Basically, they just have to prove it's safe for long enough to get drivers on the road used to it and regulators off their back.
@@shaneskull820Wow, that's what I read too, take in mind that Shane's method is only one of the many which can succeed, there are others like follow-the-leader where group of truck follows one truck in an artificially intelligent manner so you reduce it to one driver still at the wheel controlling a fleet of trucks. The real issue however is that at a certain point, there will be more robot trucks on the roads which will reduce human interference and would mean less accidents as there is just no humans driving so no humans die. All in all, truck drivers still gonna be out of a job, it is a manner of time, not of possibility.
Me: (*listening while unemployed in college with no money*) Yang: "Men deal with joblessness very poorly, they play video games, or spend too much time on the computer, and become anti-social" Me: Damn... accurate, but at least I'm not on substance abuse
@@friendmegaming804 not unless the prius drops to 10k whicj it cant because input costs are high. We won't have enough money to buy them unless u fix robots or are a politician lol
I think what would be smart for truckers to do is to start saving their money. Save as much as you can to buy an automated truck such as a Tesla Semi. For now you can drive it yourself, but then when the time comes for automation, and it likely will come, you can lease your truck to companies to do shipments for them. Passive income while you're sitting at home or working another job.
Listen everyone, the automation revolution is *here* already. The 2 minor issues it faces are typical for most emerging technologies. 1 Not enough experts/easier to learn tools. 2 It's also quite expensive to design automated tech. Once it's cheap to do it easy, it's gonna be like flipping a switch, life as we know it will be shaken up overnight unless we prepare for it.
Automation just means people can engage in more fulfilling careers to help society advance even further. The fact that some of the displaced workers will riot, commit suicide, etc., is no excuse to inhibit progress. In this day and age of the internet and the very cheap resources for learning to code and design (like my own channel), you don't need a college degree.
Shake he’s suggesting rightly that most ppl aren’t fulfilled in their jobs and what they want and need is income... hence the high rate of suicide and depression and drug abuse. When intellectuals and entrepreneurs suggest that people move with the market demand though which may require them to learn something like coding they resent it as elitism . But that’s okay because when things get hard if the former working class wants to riot and burn the place down... us intellectual elitist can afford to move somewhere else and thanks to global economy the Normies hate so much, we will be just fine...
Joe, I love ya man, but if you think that anybody will just lay down when they, their families and livelihoods are threatened, simply because something is more efficient, you are missing a big fact.
the closer they get to replicating a human brain, the closer they get to automating any job on the planet. if a human can do it, advanced ai will do it 1000x better.
They will never be able to replicate a fully functional brain because we cannot replicate what we cannot observe about ourselves, and besides that, no one ever wants a weaker version of themselves to replace them in the society, or even compete with it.
@@eax2010EA right, we dont really know what consciousness is so we cant yet replicate it. turing tests and what not. i dont think they would need to fully replicate a brain for ai and algorithms to replace most low and high level jobs.
@@poppaDehorn Replacing even the first 10% of all jobs regardless of skill is enough to cause massive civil unrest that would restrict even more the use of AI.
@@poppaDehorn Straight out banning AI to ensure competition between the people because that is the current definition of capitalism, and if that is changed the only competition we would see are wars between divided groups and nations. There will always be someone who wants the bigger slice of the cake.
The lack of empathy for people who likely will lose their jobs to automation is astounding. Even Joe seems to be approaching this from a position of "tell me why we shouldn't automate" rather than why we should. It's just another symptom of the current system that sees a small percentage of the population holding a disproportionately large percentage of the wealth.
Those people could easily transfer to different profession. What is a truck driver, fast food worker, waiters, cashiers, clerks going to transfer to? Become a successful painter? Move to Seattle to become a web designer? What? You got nothing but snarky comments.
Fortress Europa the whole point of technical advancement is that we can’t predict how the economy will adapt. The Luddites were wrong and these new age luddites will be proven wrong again.
Fortress Europa the dude was saying that truck drivers will block roads and try to ban self driving trucks through government force to protect their jobs. That’s pretty much modern day Luddites.
Cars are a hardware upgrade to buggys, ai is a software upgrade. AI won't make trucks faster, sure they could drive faster, and use it more efficiently, but it's the same truck. But going from a carriage that relies on animals which get tired, old, hurt, ect. to a car which does (almost) none of the above.
In perfect world it makes sense why automate, but we don’t live in a perfect world. The batteries aren’t efficient to last 24 hrs. It takes forever to charge a Tesla. Imagine how long it would take to charge a tractor trailer.
Ex military here and let me tell you something. To think that we truckers are going to allow this to happen to us is stupid. Most of us rather die on our feet then live on our knees. I’ll be damn if ima bout to just lay there while I get fucked. I make good money to live the way I live, and provide for my family to. To think that men are just going to allow there families to starve, because of greedy company is insane. Together we stand of divide we fall!
I don't know. If trucking jobs and farming jobs get automated, I can see prices for goods getting so low that a UBI could definitely work. When you add in that renewable energy is getting cheaper, and will eventually reach a point where the energy grid is completely renewable, energy companies could be paid off and acquired by the government, making for free energy. The future doesn't have to be bleak if we act proactively.
I think morality and ethics will be the primary concerns. Free stuff doesn't change a conscientious or indoctrinated person's mind effectively. Free resources results in free conflict. I fully support the elimination of jobs by means of automation. My concern is who administrates the system(s)...There needs to be a maintained distinction between private and public infrastructure.
If no one likes "free money" then why is the lottery a thing? People absolutely like free money. Look at all the credit card debt in this country. Look at the people who earn passive income through stocks. Both are fantastic examples of "free money."
This video shows how ignorance people are about the job Truckers do. I should know I did it for several years. I would love to see one of these automated trucks back into some of the docks I have had to back a 53' foot trailer into I want to see this automated truck deal with some of the weather,iidot drivers and traffic conditions and other things I have had to deal with when I drove a truck. I want to see this automated truck hook up a trailer, roll up the landing gear,do a pretrip or some of the other things I had to do I have no doubt that automation will change the trucking industry in some ways but getting rid of the driver is a pipe dream It isn't going to happen anytime soon because guys like this do not really understand the changes the industry would have to make for driverless truck to be a truly viable and safe option. There is a lot more involved in driving a truck then just holding a steering wheel and driving down the highway.
A close friend of my dad is a retired MTA Train operator. I asked him if train operating jobs are going to exist in the next 5-10 years and he told not very likely. Trains pretty soon are going to be automatic. The MTA is working on automatic trains to save costs.
joe sounds like such an elite when talking about these truckers. Its easy for a man to say who gives a crap if people lose there jobs because ill still have mine. What he doesn't understand is that there needs to be a balance between automation and humans. Whats the point of making our lives easier if a lot of people want have any money to spend.
@@justinhall5415 Part of the equation for 'balance' of automation and humans should take into account that more efficiency isn't really about 'people are starving' or 'people have no nowhere to live' - the social costs of technological progress might be getting to the stage where it clearly outweighs the benefits. I was agreeing with you... I think. Reading it back, it does seem a vague reply to your comment. Maybe I was replying to someone else, LOL.
@@rainman11985 True. But i believe automation doesn't need to take complete control. The reason for automation is to help humans not take over there jobs. Would you rather be able to take 50% of jobs or pay a little more for the product that you are buying. Not everyone can be a tech geek. And we can also control this by making sure companies are helping this cause by over charging for a product. that way it helps the worker and the owner
I'm a trucker I just want to clarify something's and give my opinion. we can only drive 11 hours and need to shut down 10 hours If the industry went full self driving heres where problems come in. How do they get fuel who pays for it, if they are electric how do they recharge. When they get to shipper and receivers how do the know which door to back into. If it's a tanker or refer who will wash out the trailer, if flat bed who straps the load down.
It's called contracting out/partnering with gas station/electric station. Heck, if they are willing to invest this kind of money into an automated truck, don't you think they would have a repair/hub center in the middle of the US? People were concern about the mileage and charging for Tesla vehicles. Guess what? In a matter of a few years, you are seeing Tesla charging hubs throughout the US.
Charging station still arnt enough takes to long to charge. The amount of juice used to get a 40 ton truck up to speed will kill those batteries. Still have to have people check in at the warehouse get put in a door open trailer. Clean the trailers fill them with fuel if they are refrigerated. I just dont see it.
@@Aunubus69 Did you see us packing 4 billion transistors onto a microchip 30 years ago too? Even if automation of the trucking industry takes another 2 decades to figure out then we still need to put the economic safety nets in place soon to prepare for when it does happen
@@DuckRiceFarmer The battery was invented over 200 years ago. There isnt a battery capable to do the job. Engineers have said this long ago. It's why Tesla cars arnt meant to drive thousands of miles. They also take 10 hours to recharge. Aside of those issues I dont see an electric motor pulling 40 tons for miles on end. The batteries would drain 1000x faster and the motor will wear out. Trucks today can drive over a million miles without needing a rebuilt engine. If they can do that then I'll be impressed.
Coming from a Truck Driver, this will never fukkin happen in the foreseeable future....they haven't even figured out Driverless cars yet....All this Nonsense is Coming from People who never Drove a Truck in their Life....Totally Different Ballgame and Its very irritating how people think you can just jump in a truck and Drive no Problem just because you drive a Ford 150....I promise you, If you jump in a Truck without knowing the Small things let alone the Big things, YOU WILL DIE or Worse Kill someone else in the Process....Anybody with a Commercial License will 100% agree
I doubt Truck drivers will be replaced any time soon. It requires a lot of intuition and skill to back up a trailer you know. I think AI will extend their operating hours, like driving on the interstates and ramp on and off high ways while the driver sleeps, for example. Besides, you need a supervisor for any machine. Turns out a truck is still a machine, AI installed or not. That's why we still have pilots even though commercial planes pretty much fly themselves.
They will either have remote take overs like the guys that fly drones in the middle east from Nevada. Or they will just have 1 driver at the drop off location that only needs to back up trucks all day. Either way the jobs are going to be cut in half or eliminated.
@@joerapo "Current laws" Emphasis mine, I think we all know how malleable laws can be when enough money is involved, labor and fuel are the big two running costs in the transportation industry. Someone comes along with a way to mostly take labor out of equation and increase operating times as well. Its just too tempting a prize to be left untouched by the avaricious. I think right now its more a case of when rather than if its going to happen.
The smaller and complex jobs will still use traditional trucking for a while but the larger jobs will be automated fairly quickly. If I'm Amazon or Walmart, I can control the entire process end-to-end so it can be worked out where everything works in a precise order.
After listening to this guy he has my vote. With so many FACTS hes talking I doubt alot of our country will listen. America has seem to become allergic to facts and more about agendas. I get laughed at when I go to McDonald's and tell them how the self kiosk is replacing their jobs, it was frustrating now its just a shame. People just dont get what's already in their face. Dem rep facts are facts it would be nice if everyone got on board with that after all we were all raised off rite is rite and wrong is wrong I thought. But then again common sense is pretty far from common today.
I wonder how many people were telling pilots that they would soon become obsolete when autopilot systems were developed decades ago that were more advanced then than these "autonomous" trucks are now? The military even had B-17 drones back in the 50's. We should have had all drone airliners for 20 years already by now according to the socialists. Yet that hasn't happened and won't happen in the foreseeable future. Considering that planes would be a whole lot easier to completely automate than trucks as they encounter far less traffic and basically fly in a straight line I don't think truckers should be the least bit concerned. They'll just have a more advanced cruise control which I don't think they will mind.
Autopilot doesn’t have the technology to land and take off even drones need operators to do that. Plus unions and regulations kept the airlines from trying to remove the co pilot.
I'm a truck driver, I understand the need for ubi but I think it is a path we should not take. It is not a sustainable idea AI will keep growing and taking more jobs we would have to abolish the idea of currency and monetary policy and economics. And it still would not work sustainably. We need to embrace a system that heavenly regulates monopolies, enforce are trade busting laws, we need to end corporate welfare. We need to change our social welfare programs our social safety net to a form of meant to catch and release as thriving self-sufficient individuals not as snaring net meant to keep the person in
Joshua Oliver ubi is that social safety net, if I have money and the ability to go to college without fear of bankruptcy, or fear of getting injured and losing everything, then people have been caught and now free and I do whatever they want with their lives. Start a business, sell something, start a RUclips channel. Idk
There's a very important detail about automation that is frequently missed. Automation is not a bad thing, which will wreak havoc and should be stopped. Automation is a great thing. It means that, where 1 million people today can produce X amount of services, in the future 1 million people will produce and enjoy 10 times more stuff and services. Everybody can get much richer. The problem is making sure that there's a system to distribute the new wealth and that it doesn't stay with the few people who made the robots. Universal basic income can do it. Socialism can do it. Even communism might work. But libertarian free market capitalism can absolutely not work.
robot tax, if you want a robot you have to pay it a wage, goes into a pot and get shared out. thats all I can think of. probably a bad idea. anyone else?
Heard this idea floated a few times now, and seems like one of the more reasonable/possible options for whats...lets face it an unknown future we're currently barreling straight towards, Question then becomes how do you benchmark the "productive worth" of any given AI system that has displaced a human ? and who gets to decide what that is ?
Drivers will most likely become more of baby sitters than regular drivers over time. Possibly taking part in the fine detail maneuvers, road maintenance, and load/unload of products. Maintenance, tech, and trade work will continue to be viable. That said, we need systems in place to retrain people for the change in the job market. We can't forget people. Like what happened with the coal industry. Otherwise, we will end up with another Trump, or something worse. That is hard to imagine, but it could happen if nothing changes.
I honestly don't see how any robot trucks will even be useful..think about it..people will be running these trucks off the road..if they fail..or breakdown..they will have their cargo stolen or stripped down..it's not gonna happen..people will have new jobs stealing from these trucks...it's gonna happen
Dude they will have 360 degree cameras and live streams that will alert someone if it has to stop for some reason. They will probably have one human operator watching over a fleet of 50 automated trucks until AI can replace that job.
The majority of the reasons for automation, is solely profit based. There is some good reasons but you need to legislate against it. It's that simple. UBI is an unproven and is a last resort. Legislation needs to happen
As someone currently working 2 full time retail jobs to pay for commercial driving schooling just to get OUT of retail this podcast kind of scared me haha but there's always thousands of truck driving jobs that automation can't fill every single one of them
People that think truckers are going to be replaced by computers do not know what a trucker does. He is not just holding a steering wheel. He's monitoring and maintaining his truck all the time. Keeping an eye on wearing parts. Having them replaced. Limping his truck to the nearest service when something unexpected goes wrong. Putting chains on tires in bad weather. There is alot more to trucking then holding a wheel. Second question no one has answered. What happens when the computer gets into an accident? Who is responsible when a senser glitch causes an accident that kills people? Who is responsible? Will it be the mechanic that last serviced the vehicle? Will it be the programmer who wrote the lines of code?? Will it be the CEO of the trucking company? A trucker can and does get held responsible if he messes up. People are forgetting that trucks are VERY LARGE and going down the highways next to you. 60 000 or even up to 160 000 lbs at 70 mph racing down the highway. More of trying to de-mean the work that good people do. Your JUST a trucker. Yeah... go ahead and give it a go. Dodging a 75 foot 80 000 lbs vehicle down town through traffic and reversing it into some god awful tight spot. Then tell me someone is JUST a trucker.
Paul Carpenter most of this just seems like angst to me, but from what I’ve seen a computer can “think” over a million times faster a second than a human being can. I don’t think trucking is an easy job whatsoever but it is not a job that is exempt from the machine. Id also be much more willing to sacrifice one “computer glitch” accident than the 4,000+ people that die in truck accidents per year
Paul Carpenter and as Quin said up above, until all cars are automated and human drivers have been taken off the roads, companies will most likely need a job for a human copilot as we do with automated cars. Because a company would not risk a one million dollar computer glitch when they can just put a human in the seat for a couple thousand dollars
But don't we already do that with commercial airliners that carry 500+ people carrying a 100 thousand pounds in the night sky. It flies through snow, windstorms, clouds, intense heat, pitch black darkness. I think it's inevitable. Maybe this is why we need universal income to protect against that inevitability.
Universal basic income will become a thing we basically already have it in many country’s we call it the dole in Australia, it takes a lot of weight off people but causes a lot of friction as well, people may like to treat each other equal or be equal but people also like to strive for greatness and to have more which will always cause an imbalance. I truly believe people will be forced to take up what few roles are left in society and watch as the jobs slowly trickle away there will be basic income for people but the friction between the rich and the regular will be stark.
There’s nothing wrong with having it in your company, but when you start replacing workers with machines that’s fucked up on too many levels to describe. This is why when the auto industry left Detroit it caused one of the largest social depressions in American history
Yesterday I started thinking about this all day. My conclusion is that 1. Everyone's income will go up 1k higher and 2. Everyone's cost of living will go up 2k.
More people will just get bigger houses and share rooms and chip on rent get a 5 or 6 bed room and everyone getting 6 to 12 k a month if two to a room I think they'll be fine plus you can still work also
So guy running for president if you believe these truckers will become dangerous when their jobs are automated and replaced what are you suggesting be done? Sounds to me like you got something in mind but you don't want to talk about it huh. I don't think I could get on board with anyone supported by the racist Young Turks
@Morris Watkins Why is he a conservative? Theres a reason TYT in 1 year went from 4 mill active subs and 120mill views a month to 2 mill active subs and 35 mill views a month. They're deceptive, racist and outright fabricators of news.
@@danzwku that's a legitimate question. What's wrong with asking questions??? I know a lot of brain-dead leftists mindlessly except information without asking questions especially if it comes from CNN or MSNBC. If something doesn't sit well there's nothing wrong with asking questions that's how you learn and understand someones positions.
“No way a robot can take my job”
- Everyone who’s job is about to be taken by robots
I know a truckie and i keep telling him it's coming. He said the same thing. A robor can't do his job. It's like no it can do it and do it way more efficiently
Yeah they can send spaceships outer space and back autonomously but airplanes need Pilots! And by the way if there's autonomous semi truck you can't forget about the autonomous cars. Because people kill people willing and unwilling
@@ericpayne8837 The real question is how can we send spaceships to mars but we can find a way to put hair back on a bald man's head.
@@moda-vi facetious bruh! But you got to let people be, especially if you ain't fuck em!
lol
We should automate politicians
We already do. They’re basically all robots anyway.
dkrbuckley they already are...😂
@@TKinfinity01 facts
* runs corruption.exe *
in ther words - let's implement SkyNet
Lmao half of Joe's views come from us truckers lol
What?
Randy3197 CBR Yea but have you done DMT yet?
@@deckleberry look guys someone who doesn't know where they are, how adorable
This podcast made me wanna be a trucker.
Seriously a cool job, pays ok/well here too.
Respect to all you truckers
Actually my dreamjob is being a traindriver, don't know why I haven't thought about truck driving.
What baffles me is how people just focus on trucking jobs. Do you really think once AI is sophisticated enough to guide a 60 ton vehicle down an icy road it won't be able to do the majority of what's done on computers by white collar workers? This isn't just going to be truckers. It's going to be a lot of us.
The lowest rung of white collar work will go to automation (AI or even something which just resembles AI) faster than trades.
You are right, plenty of white collar jobs will go away too, including some development/programming jobs.
@@shaneskull820
White Collar jobs yes, most programming will stay. As a CS major, yeah, there's a long fucking way to go before you can teach an AI to program efficiently since a lot of it is critical thinking that AI just can't do.
@@servebotfrank4082 - I'd respectfully disagree with you there. As a programmer myself for many years, I don't think our job is conceptually as complex as we let on. Sure, if you're creating a foundational technology such as a new protocol or codec then it requires intense critical thinking, but the majority of applications are essentially remixed MVC-like applications with less than 50 or so fundamental building blocks. Look at a highly complex gaming engine such as Unreal Engine and view their Blueprint visual programming tool. It doesn't take much of a leap to see how we could train AI to leverage a similar flow-based model. I could easily see programming tools that make the composition of most web, desktop and mobile applications fairly turnkey for 90% of scenarios.
@@servebotfrank4082 they already have AI that can make other AI not to mention programs and anything else it creators ask of it lol
I worked in an AI lab for a national-scale bank in Canada, my VP basically said that I was to figure out how to automate loan officers' jobs using basic technology (low-hanging fruit) to AI (things like Optical Character Recognition or Computer Vision for document verification). Don't think this is far away, whole departments (ranging from 30 to 50 people each) are doing basic tasks that pass off as doing a lot of work on the surface but once you tally up the numbers is not a lot of stuff done while being paid salaries that can be $50K. If you think white-collar automation is faraway, then you are wrong.
You're so right. I used to know a guy who was a bank manager. He hated that all loan decisions were now made by a computer. He had no input any more, meaning nobody could look into someone's eyes and judge whether they were really a good bet or if they just knew how to write a good business plan with the right numbers. That was almost 15 years ago. It's obviously only going to get worse.
White collar creative here (writing, video, content creation, etc) and even in that highly specialized and changing field automation is taking more and more of my job responsibilities. In the short term, it’s nice and frees me up to focus on the aspects of my job that require creative focus. But there’s a big gulf between the aspects of my job that I value and the aspects of my job that my employer values. I punch a clock, wear slacks, and sit at a desk most days. I’d consider myself a white collar worker and the machine learning team within our company terrifies me. I wasn’t thinking about my future in any positive or tangible way until Andrew Yang popped up on my radar
I’m a computer science major in college. The amount of jobs that my fellow class men are going to automate using AI is insane. People don’t realize how many cubicle jobs are going to be gone over night with thousands of people blindsided by their sudden loss of employment.
yup...my boss just got rid of a lot of admin people because most of the work they do now can be done online
Good riddance!
t. engineer
I go trough 2 or 3 jre’s while driving 🤙🏼🚛
Thank you for working very hard and transporting supplies around
Me too!
what do you think about all this?
Sonkwa Sonkwa luckily I’m 25 and don’t think I’ll struggle learning a different trade , I feel bad for the older drivers that trucking is all they know
Same either I'm listening to this or Tim pool
Retraining is just unrealistic. Truckers are not going to become software or robotics engineers. Noether will nost retail workers or manufacturing workers. You migjt be able to retrain less than 10% of them. Also those fields will be flooded too.
James Loehr I dont know why so many folks think that the only option is for them to get a Master’s degree in computer engineering or to become a doctor or lawyer. Isn’t it perfectly realistic to expect perhaps even most of them to gravitate towards the skilled trades? We’re in such dire straights that I’m sure a number of companies would be willing to train individuals from the bottom up, and family oriented truckers would probably be a reliable investment for the most part.
Contrary to popular belief, we are a looong ways aeay from automating plumbing and electrical wiring and the like, and those are great pathways to starting your own business.
When it comes to automation, I’m not sure why we focus so much on truckers - a population with ample opportunities to find other decent paying work - instead of the intellectually disabled population who will have no other option because they’re more or less incapable of learning new skills. There are probably way more of them than truckers.
@@rhyca4804 That's why there are plans to boost humans cognitive capabilities. Companies such as neural link aspire to make people smarter.
James Roscoe won’t happen in any constructive way in your lifetime
Tell joe I said DMT
LOL
Donald Motherfkn Trump??
At some point, the only jobs will be creating new ways to automate
Michael Evans yep
And we'll have a One World technocrat overlord/council that effectively runs and owns the entire thing... the rest of us being disposable biological matter without any real worth, at least all of the men and the ugly women. It's either that, some kind of collapse due to natural disaster or other environmental factor that effectively resets the entire world, or it's all out infinite Totaler Krieg. Pick one. lol
Unfortunately those jobs were lost to AI some time ago....
That and drawing anime :P
Michael Evans Until AI itself is able to create and regulate new ways to automate, which is the point of artificial intelligence in the first place.
It should be noted that IQ plays a role in this as well. Replacing "Low-IQ" jobs with automated ones means the "Low-IQ" people have no where to go, regardless of how motivated they might be to find adapt and find another job.
Yes I know someone at my job great guy nice hard worker but I can tell his limited on what he can do idk how to explain this as my iq. Is just 120 but doesn't really mean anythiny
"They would really block the roads for something that's more efficient, kills less people?"
Millionaire Joe just can't imagine what might drive people.
Millionaire since the 90's, he can't remember.
Yeah peabrain statement he made there
We’re close to a war and you the reason we need one
And that’s just truck drivers. What about cabs, bus drivers, all gone.
Don Timberman I don’t think I would trust my child to get on an self driving bus too school. And if that’s the case. That have too be some sort of worker on that bus too monitor the children
Edward Borne Ya I didn’t think school busses. But you are right about that. Think they will do volunteer bus Monitors like to do volunteer crossing guards? But ya you can’t leave 30 kids alone for a hour. Know when you have self driving cabs it may be cheap enough to just order a car to take them to school.
dude for as long as I live people will be driving cab/uber.. buses go slow, transport can be managed because the money is there... it's not viable to have robot cabs/uber until ALL cars are robotic.. think about it.
@@edwardborne9809 good point about supervision, they can also use more smaller buses with video monitoring and action team, I heard Schwarzenegger still likes politics... yeah this is all crazy talk just because this dude is Asian doesn't mean he knows wtf he is talking about.. America is the tech leader, always was, does anyone even realize that?
@@dontimberman5493 let me tell you a story from a time not all that long ago... I was left alone from age 5 until the grave, I'm not there yet. your world view is a lie
Yes pay me $12K a year so I can finger paint farm animals and live my passion
Hey! If you can find away to not only monetize such an act but also continue money flowing through the economy. Go for it! Whatever floats your boat!
@@Machiavelli2pc Ha yes there's always dumb rich people blowing money on silly art so it just might work
Nick Not only that, but you wouldn’t be discouraged into putting your resources that you have into what you love, but if it fails. You wouldn’t be left in the shitter. And can choose different paths for yourself. Letting the market and economy drive you towards what you both love to do, and is monetarily possible.
The day I can get paid for doing no work is the day right before I quit my job.
Nick if you didn't realize there are 12 months in a year instead of 10 and that makes 14.4k on this calculation... maybe you are part of the low end to benefit by this measure
Let’s not forget about the lot lizard jobs being lost too!!!
@@nonyobussiness3440
Who wants to pay $400, and where you gonna park your rig?
Are they automating prostitution too?
Despicably Irascible Rapscallion with new sex tools and vr I’d say yes
@@johnedwards1968
Sex robots are just around the corner Bubbs
non yobussiness Hahahaha
It's a rolling jail cell.
but you get paid
@@kasper5688 you can get paid in jail to.
not really but ok
AI/automation will be present in every industry as we go further. Our school systems will have to adapt in a way that prepares people for a world and job market ruled by these technologies
To many unions and red tape in my opinion I think the school system will be the last thing to be automated.
@@JohnSmith-iv5le I meant that we should teach students different skill sets that prepare them for a job market where technology is now replacing human ressources.
Just ban automation and put high tariffs and imported goods so foreigners cant compete!
@@historicaltruther6300 we shouldn't ban progress. As humans we are made to adapt like we did when phenomenons like agriculture, money, the industrial revolution took place.
@@historicaltruther6300 That is a brilliant way to end the United States stake in the global economy.
As a automotive/diesel mechanic, I know one day my job will be automated. I’m just trying to save up enough money so I can buy some land and learn how to farm and have my own water supply so I can be self sufficient.
Hah its inevitable. I also thought the same. Might as well buy land somewhere to get away.
Yeah im training to become a mechanic probably just gonna join the police in 5 years anyway, cant really see that becoming automated
stegosaurus I’m in the medical field, and we are all doomed. We have to think together
My husband is a Welder. Automation is a worry for us. We are both 29, home owners and have 2 small boys. Its scares me a lot because he's our bread winner and his job may be gone soon.
There will always be related jobs in that industry regardless.
I wouldn't worry too bad. Plumbers use welding quite a lot and they're not going to be affected by automation for a long time. Should be pretty easy to transfer.
Damn... good luck for your family.
I really doubt that a t-1000 will take a welder's job or any other trade in your lifetime.
@@cgasucks Currently, the technology exists where the welding work that would traditionally require a highly skilled welder can be done by someone with little to no experience, which would def devalue the work. Much of it is (or can be) automated quite easily.
5:25 that 100% would happen or something similar. They threaten striking over the smallest contract disputes. Go tell union truckers they are being replaced and see how quick shit hits the fan.
I know its inevitable but if they dont handle that transition carefully it will get ugly
If you were a carriage driver in the 1800s you might have been worried too. -paraphrasing Jack Ma
the real question is... Should We Automate Regulation?
I look forward to city buses that run 24/7 and more on time than ever before
You look forward to it. But the thousands who will be out of jobs will not. Stop thinking about yourself
@@midget_spinner8449 There are a lot of benefits to automation (eg. less accidents, more efficient etc.), automation shouldn't be looked at as a bad thing even though we need to work through the problems it makes.
From 1:15 to 1:45 that is exactly what I've been going through for the last nearly two years since I destroyed my leg.
Back at work since Tuesday this week and I haven't had the dark thoughts that I was having and I feel just in general happier.
I can relate. Yang described my current unemployment situation to the tee... To have a president that understands nuances like this to drive policy would be incredible #yang2020
Business is short minded.....if people don’t have jobs in the future who’s gonna buy all the stuff that the robots make if people can’t afford it.
@@claymusicoff5663 Bullshit.
The middle class will do what it does best and consume until ai comes knocking for their jobs too... grim out look but we will socially degrade to places like india with the extreme opposites of wealth and poverty gated communities vs slums. At best massive civil unrest more likely guerrilla civil war
"who cares make money and cash out" - businessman
Ralph W America is downsizing.
Ship out
For people who don't think this is possible in the next decade you should research what is possible now with AI and self driving cars. Not just in this country but elsewhere. Also I recommend reading the recent news articles about huge corporations investing in self driving startups.
20 years ago I didn't think I would ever see a self driving car in my lifetime but now they exist and there is even DIY kits which is scary and crazy to me.
Think about this: what do you think would be harder to create and bring to production?
A.Self driving car that has to drive around residential areas and avoid hundreds of obstacles coming from every direction.
B. Self driving truck that mainly has to drive from point A to point B on a straight stretch of road in the middle of nowhere.
answer: Self driving trucks are coming.
There's a lot more to trucking than just sitting and holding a steering wheel.
I know. A. I. will do it all better. They are working on automating loading and unloading trucks too. The first generation will digitally chain the trucks together for long hauls. One human driver will be able to watch over a dozen automated trucks behind him. Sort of like a train. . The next generation will be fully automated with one human watching over hundreds like a traffic controller.
@@techbro1979 You clearly have no idea about how trucking works. The semis today have more electronics than ever and they are proving to be completely unreliable. Tons of issues with sensors. If they can’t even get that right, how could they ever successfully guide a 40 ton vehicle down a road in icy conditions? Not to mention backing into docks? Self driving trucks are pretty far into the future.
@@techbro1979 you've never drove a truck with a 50 foot trailer have you? It's not as easy as you think.. I guarentee you couldn't even pass all the test and the pretrip because your not as smart as you think you are buddy
Truckers will lose , the people that fix the trucks will lose, people that manufacture the vehicles to begin with will lose. The whole automotive industry is going to Implode within 15 years. People won't be needed to build, fix or drive any kind of new vehicle. Your main car dealerships will have 2 or three techs working just keeping an eye on the robots. The other 20-50 won't be required.
Big grocery stores won't have people on the tills anymore as every item will scan itself on exit of the store, The shelves will be stacked by robots. Coffee shops won't need people, restaurants won't need people other than maybe the chef, eventually they will be replaced too. Places like phone shops and Apple stores don't need people, if your device is faulty you just place it on a tray, you'd type on a screen what is wrong, the tray has a scanner on it that wirelessly removes all of your data and puts it onto another phone, that phone rises on another tray next to your phone, you take the replacement and your old phone falls through a trap door to be taken away to a factory where a team of robots remove all the components then builds a new phone with the viable bits which then gets returned to the store for the next person. After that the store is closed down, when you get a problem you'd just ping the manufacturer who sends a drone to wherever you are and swaps your phone for a new one. No factory/manual worker is safe. After that it will be google, Microsoft, Facebook etc laying off all of it's workers, as A.I will just come up with all the new ideas and do all the programming. A.I can do it now to some level. Then its gp's, why have a human there that you tell your issue to when you can just tell a robot which scans the biggest library of symptoms and issues available in a matter of seconds and can then prescribe a drug or treatment or refer you to see a specialist. A.I and robots are going to change this world drastically.
read more Finally. Now we can actually focus on spiritual growth because it’s the whole reason we’re here on earth in the first place and have an easier way of life.
Problem is, the way the economy is set up won't facilitate that.
Truckers aren’t going to be the first to go. It will be finance, white collar jobs. Creating AI to calculate, manipulate data, create reports etc is a much easier feat than taking over trucking
non yobussiness ya middle managers are all reddy on the way out.
The Outdoors no they have been down sizing corporate jobs for awhile it doesn’t take much to automate index match functions, basic algebra especially if the data is all ready in various data bases. AI has all ready wrote symphonies, etc.
The Outdoors no because insurance companies don’t know who picks up the cost for accidents etc
He mentioned that in the full podcast.
I work for a company that facilitates this lol he’s spot on
A Tesla can’t keep itself in its lane on a clear day, how do expect a 30 ton truck to stay in its lane? And with wind, icy roads, etc.
1:20 "Doing other things" means watching porn.
75% of the time watching porn? Sounds 'bout right.
Its true
Instead of VAT, why not tax a company based on how much of their labor is done by automation to pay for freedom dividend?
As a truck driver I have serious skepticism of self driving vehicles, especially tractor trailers.
You posted this 3 years ago, but can I ask why you are skeptical about that
If both of these people are sitting across from each other, what’s the points of the head phones???
joe is bald and doesn't want anyone to find out
Ever notice someone with headphones on speaks louder? Yeah, that's the point. Just like music/vocal artist.
Jets have the best auto piloting software in the world, they still require two pilots, why? Because of risk vs reward, the same will hold true for trucking. Yang is fear mongering, we need to worry about important things like advancing antibiotics and reducing obesity.
People are scared so fear mongering is easy these days
We shall see how the automation handles the weather, when it kills enough people it will be abandoned
Truckin America Answer: better than humans can...
Oh yeah how is that automation working out for Boeing. Not good when they have grounded them
@@worm2879 you compare Elons business to Boeing? Elon frequently addresses issues almost daily. Boeing is more of a bloated conglomerate that gets in its own way. Boeing knew of the problem, but still rolled with it.
Driving is just 10% of the job there’s a lot more to it than just driving
Alvarado Energy yup
Most “driverless” trucks will have cabs for drivers. So yeah I don’t think it’s going away as soon as people think
Andrew is right about a lot of things, including regarding automation. The one thing I think he gets wrong is timing. All of his arguments rely on the timing being right, i.e. AI will take these jobs over soon. I think he's wrong on that, I think it will be a few decades before these jobs are fully automated and I think the world will have time to adjust. The pace of advancement in AI is overhyped by the media and people like Elon Musk. We're not there yet.
That's a big 10-4 for automation of the trucking industry. I can't wait to see the Boston Dynamics lot lizard.
Jo Po I think you mean Boston dynamics but still an amazing joke 😂😂😂
@@CreossCross good catch
🤣🤣🤣 Lot Lizards 🦎 “I will not suck you, and I will not be sucked on... by you” -Always Sunny ☀️
Can’t drive more than 11 hours a day 14 represents total working hrs not driving hours.....
In theory Automotive trucks seems like a great idea. My fear though is some terrorist organization hacks into the network and causes havoc on the roads. 60 minutes did a piece on this very topic a few years back. Very interesting segment
The efficiency might need to sacrifice security.
i have the feeling for a long time to come automated trucks will Still require a human (co)pilot . Mind you we'll likely get lower pay probably .
Yup, like traindrivers.
But traindrivers get paid really well, so idk
Pilots to
They're working on tele-presence where a remote person can take over control of the truck in tough situations, similar to how drone pilots can take over a drone if needed. Once they're on the road they'll have human co-pilots for the first 3-5 years and then phase them out quickly in order to reap massive profits. Basically, they just have to prove it's safe for long enough to get drivers on the road used to it and regulators off their back.
I believe so too but they'll probably not employ as much people as before.
@@shaneskull820Wow, that's what I read too, take in mind that Shane's method is only one of the many which can succeed, there are others like follow-the-leader where group of truck follows one truck in an artificially intelligent manner so you reduce it to one driver still at the wheel controlling a fleet of trucks. The real issue however is that at a certain point, there will be more robot trucks on the roads which will reduce human interference and would mean less accidents as there is just no humans driving so no humans die. All in all, truck drivers still gonna be out of a job, it is a manner of time, not of possibility.
NO!!! because something something GOVERNMET BAD!!! and something something SOCIALISM!!! and something something FREE MARKET!!! and such
This is like the climate change crisis. Conservatives are gonna look the other way.
😅😅
I agree. Something something libtards, something something CONservatives, something something Wil E Coyote
lol libtard
@@JohnSmith-ef2sx Climate Change is a hoax!
Me: (*listening while unemployed in college with no money*)
Yang: "Men deal with joblessness very poorly, they play video games, or spend too much time on the computer, and become anti-social"
Me: Damn... accurate, but at least I'm not on substance abuse
C.B Fernández Yup same
Forget driving anywhere with driverless trucks filling the freeways and one lane to pass a train of them behind some slow poke in a Prius 👎
Don't worry, you'll have a self-driving Prius that will pass safely for you. :)
@@friendmegaming804 not unless the prius drops to 10k whicj it cant because input costs are high. We won't have enough money to buy them unless u fix robots or are a politician lol
Ideally we avoid a car centric design for cities. So that wont be essential.
I think what would be smart for truckers to do is to start saving their money. Save as much as you can to buy an automated truck such as a Tesla Semi. For now you can drive it yourself, but then when the time comes for automation, and it likely will come, you can lease your truck to companies to do shipments for them. Passive income while you're sitting at home or working another job.
That was very entrepreneurial of you to say. Interesting idea.
Yang is the only politician that can reasonably explain this issue 👀
Listen everyone, the automation revolution is *here* already. The 2 minor issues it faces are typical for most emerging technologies. 1 Not enough experts/easier to learn tools. 2 It's also quite expensive to design automated tech. Once it's cheap to do it easy, it's gonna be like flipping a switch, life as we know it will be shaken up overnight unless we prepare for it.
Automation just means people can engage in more fulfilling careers to help society advance even further. The fact that some of the displaced workers will riot, commit suicide, etc., is no excuse to inhibit progress. In this day and age of the internet and the very cheap resources for learning to code and design (like my own channel), you don't need a college degree.
@Shake it was a mere suggestion. You can use the internet to educate yourself on many topics. The college degree will be antiquated for many fields.
Shake he’s suggesting rightly that most ppl aren’t fulfilled in their jobs and what they want and need is income... hence the high rate of suicide and depression and drug abuse.
When intellectuals and entrepreneurs suggest that people move with the market demand though which may require them to learn something like coding they resent it as elitism .
But that’s okay because when things get hard if the former working class wants to riot and burn the place down... us intellectual elitist can afford to move somewhere else and thanks to global economy the Normies hate so much, we will be just fine...
But then wouldn't the wages for those jobs lower due to the increase supply of workers? Then we are back to square one.
Coding will soon be automated, even as more people than ever learn to code.
#learntocode ?
Joe, I love ya man, but if you think that anybody will just lay down when they, their families and livelihoods are threatened, simply because something is more efficient, you are missing a big fact.
Robots will take over podcasting
the closer they get to replicating a human brain, the closer they get to automating any job on the planet. if a human can do it, advanced ai will do it 1000x better.
They will never be able to replicate a fully functional brain because we cannot replicate what we cannot observe about ourselves, and besides that, no one ever wants a weaker version of themselves to replace them in the society, or even compete with it.
@@eax2010EA right, we dont really know what consciousness is so we cant yet replicate it. turing tests and what not. i dont think they would need to fully replicate a brain for ai and algorithms to replace most low and high level jobs.
@@poppaDehorn Replacing even the first 10% of all jobs regardless of skill is enough to cause massive civil unrest that would restrict even more the use of AI.
@@eax2010EA whats more likely, businesses replace the 10% of jobs with ai or our government passes sweeping regulations on corporations, banning ai?
@@poppaDehorn Straight out banning AI to ensure competition between the people because that is the current definition of capitalism, and if that is changed the only competition we would see are wars between divided groups and nations. There will always be someone who wants the bigger slice of the cake.
re watching old Yang videos as he starts his campaign for NYC mayor. It's gonna be a long road, Yang Gang, but it is well worth it.
12k a year aint shit. You cant live off that
The lack of empathy for people who likely will lose their jobs to automation is astounding. Even Joe seems to be approaching this from a position of "tell me why we shouldn't automate" rather than why we should. It's just another symptom of the current system that sees a small percentage of the population holding a disproportionately large percentage of the wealth.
"why we should"
cheaper shit
Just say Jews its ok.
Nah this more has to do with the fact that people care a lot less about problems that don’t affect them when it comes to issues of social progress
By the time automation comes those truck drivers of today would have already retired. At least 2 decades to go. It is not an easy technology.
Could you imagine if we let the horse and buggy industry make cars illegal
Those people could easily transfer to different profession. What is a truck driver, fast food worker, waiters, cashiers, clerks going to transfer to? Become a successful painter? Move to Seattle to become a web designer? What? You got nothing but snarky comments.
Fortress Europa the whole point of technical advancement is that we can’t predict how the economy will adapt. The Luddites were wrong and these new age luddites will be proven wrong again.
@@dain6492 By the way, who has called for technology to be banned? This is about UBI. Are you watching the right video?
Fortress Europa the dude was saying that truck drivers will block roads and try to ban self driving trucks through government force to protect their jobs. That’s pretty much modern day Luddites.
Cars are a hardware upgrade to buggys, ai is a software upgrade.
AI won't make trucks faster, sure they could drive faster, and use it more efficiently, but it's the same truck. But going from a carriage that relies on animals which get tired, old, hurt, ect. to a car which does (almost) none of the above.
In perfect world it makes sense why automate, but we don’t live in a perfect world. The batteries aren’t efficient to last 24 hrs. It takes forever to charge a Tesla. Imagine how long it would take to charge a tractor trailer.
wow this dude just described my life in the first 2 minutes
Ex military here and let me tell you something. To think that we truckers are going to allow this to happen to us is stupid. Most of us rather die on our feet then live on our knees. I’ll be damn if ima bout to just lay there while I get fucked. I make good money to live the way I live, and provide for my family to. To think that men are just going to allow there families to starve, because of greedy company is insane. Together we stand of divide we fall!
Why regulate automation instead of just automating all redundant jobs, get rid of money and live civilized. The Venus Project fam.
Coz they consider us as insects
It works, 100% Terminator guaranteed
I don't know. If trucking jobs and farming jobs get automated, I can see prices for goods getting so low that a UBI could definitely work. When you add in that renewable energy is getting cheaper, and will eventually reach a point where the energy grid is completely renewable, energy companies could be paid off and acquired by the government, making for free energy. The future doesn't have to be bleak if we act proactively.
@Alex X We can 3d print stuff with light bro, look it 😊
I think morality and ethics will be the primary concerns. Free stuff doesn't change a conscientious or indoctrinated person's mind effectively. Free resources results in free conflict.
I fully support the elimination of jobs by means of automation. My concern is who administrates the system(s)...There needs to be a maintained distinction between private and public infrastructure.
If no one likes "free money" then why is the lottery a thing? People absolutely like free money. Look at all the credit card debt in this country. Look at the people who earn passive income through stocks. Both are fantastic examples of "free money."
1:12 EXPLAINS MY LIFE YOU HAVE MY VOTE MAN
This video shows how ignorance people are about the job Truckers do. I should know I did it for several years.
I would love to see one of these automated trucks back into some of the docks I have had to back a 53' foot trailer into
I want to see this automated truck deal with some of the weather,iidot drivers and traffic conditions and other things I have had to deal with when I drove a truck.
I want to see this automated truck hook up a trailer, roll up the landing gear,do a pretrip or some of the other things I had to do
I have no doubt that automation will change the trucking industry in some ways but getting rid of the driver is a pipe dream It isn't going to happen anytime soon because guys like this do not really understand the changes the industry would have to make for driverless truck to be a truly viable and safe option.
There is a lot more involved in driving a truck then just holding a steering wheel and driving down the highway.
I’m ok. I’m one of the guys they send in to put in the automation systems..... till they build a robot that can do it.
Congrats your the reason why millions will suffer in the future
The Government better do something quick there's going to be alot of unemployed pissed off armed Hungry Americans out there
Can he get Tulsi Gabbard for VP on this ticket?
She's way above him dude.
Agreed but IMHO, she already has too many insiders/establishment Dems against her to lead the ticket.
Jonnie Candito no shes not.
A close friend of my dad is a retired MTA Train operator. I asked him if train operating jobs are going to exist in the next 5-10 years and he told not very likely. Trains pretty soon are going to be automatic. The MTA is working on automatic trains to save costs.
joe sounds like such an elite when talking about these truckers. Its easy for a man to say who gives a crap if people lose there jobs because ill still have mine. What he doesn't understand is that there needs to be a balance between automation and humans. Whats the point of making our lives easier if a lot of people want have any money to spend.
justin hall won’t needvas much money to spend when things are easier?
Western countries are already practically 'post scarcity'.
@@rainman11985Yes but jobs such as trucking has nothing to do with that at the moment . So what is your point?
@@justinhall5415 Part of the equation for 'balance' of automation and humans should take into account that more efficiency isn't really about 'people are starving' or 'people have no nowhere to live' - the social costs of technological progress might be getting to the stage where it clearly outweighs the benefits. I was agreeing with you... I think. Reading it back, it does seem a vague reply to your comment. Maybe I was replying to someone else, LOL.
@@rainman11985 True. But i believe automation doesn't need to take complete control. The reason for automation is to help humans not take over there jobs. Would you rather be able to take 50% of jobs or pay a little more for the product that you are buying. Not everyone can be a tech geek. And we can also control this by making sure companies are helping this cause by over charging for a product. that way it helps the worker and the owner
If there will be no driver how is the truck protected against thieves hijacking the truck and stealing all the goods ?
I'm a trucker I just want to clarify something's and give my opinion.
we can only drive 11 hours and need to shut down 10 hours
If the industry went full self driving heres where problems come in. How do they get fuel who pays for it, if they are electric how do they recharge. When they get to shipper and receivers how do the know which door to back into. If it's a tanker or refer who will wash out the trailer, if flat bed who straps the load down.
It's called contracting out/partnering with gas station/electric station. Heck, if they are willing to invest this kind of money into an automated truck, don't you think they would have a repair/hub center in the middle of the US? People were concern about the mileage and charging for Tesla vehicles. Guess what? In a matter of a few years, you are seeing Tesla charging hubs throughout the US.
It's more likely the automation will be used to make it a 24 hour operation.
Charging station still arnt enough takes to long to charge. The amount of juice used to get a 40 ton truck up to speed will kill those batteries.
Still have to have people check in at the warehouse get put in a door open trailer. Clean the trailers fill them with fuel if they are refrigerated. I just dont see it.
@@Aunubus69 Did you see us packing 4 billion transistors onto a microchip 30 years ago too? Even if automation of the trucking industry takes another 2 decades to figure out then we still need to put the economic safety nets in place soon to prepare for when it does happen
@@DuckRiceFarmer The battery was invented over 200 years ago. There isnt a battery capable to do the job. Engineers have said this long ago. It's why Tesla cars arnt meant to drive thousands of miles. They also take 10 hours to recharge.
Aside of those issues I dont see an electric motor pulling 40 tons for miles on end. The batteries would drain 1000x faster and the motor will wear out. Trucks today can drive over a million miles without needing a rebuilt engine. If they can do that then I'll be impressed.
Turns out, that yes, people will block traffic with their vehicles.
I cant wait till robots take UFC jobs away. What a bunch of dbags. Let em fight robots see how tough they are
You’ve not heard of Battlebots?
I can't wait for AI to take podcasts jobs away let's see how they react
I'd insult you but we have the same name!
UFC should try 2v2 fighting
I wanna say battle bots but those things are controlled by people. They aren't automated.
Coming from a Truck Driver, this will never fukkin happen in the foreseeable future....they haven't even figured out Driverless cars yet....All this Nonsense is Coming from People who never Drove a Truck in their Life....Totally Different Ballgame and Its very irritating how people think you can just jump in a truck and Drive no Problem just because you drive a Ford 150....I promise you, If you jump in a Truck without knowing the Small things let alone the Big things, YOU WILL DIE or Worse Kill someone else in the Process....Anybody with a Commercial License will 100% agree
They can't even fix the roads and they want to put all these robots on them lol
I doubt Truck drivers will be replaced any time soon. It requires a lot of intuition and skill to back up a trailer you know. I think AI will extend their operating hours, like driving on the interstates and ramp on and off high ways while the driver sleeps, for example. Besides, you need a supervisor for any machine. Turns out a truck is still a machine, AI installed or not. That's why we still have pilots even though commercial planes pretty much fly themselves.
I agree their will still be a need for a operator on board it will just make it a 24 hour operation instead of 14 hours.
They will either have remote take overs like the guys that fly drones in the middle east from Nevada. Or they will just have 1 driver at the drop off location that only needs to back up trucks all day. Either way the jobs are going to be cut in half or eliminated.
@@howdydutt1e Current laws require a driver at all times the vehicle is in operation.
@@joerapo "Current laws" Emphasis mine, I think we all know how malleable laws can be when enough money is involved, labor and fuel are the big two running costs in the transportation industry. Someone comes along with a way to mostly take labor out of equation and increase operating times as well. Its just too tempting a prize to be left untouched by the avaricious. I think right now its more a case of when rather than if its going to happen.
The smaller and complex jobs will still use traditional trucking for a while but the larger jobs will be automated fairly quickly. If I'm Amazon or Walmart, I can control the entire process end-to-end so it can be worked out where everything works in a precise order.
Joe rogan crazy as hell I love free money
Can you really see a self driving truck parking at a downtown warehouse or something dropping off a delivery? Idk
Not anytime soon.
@Morris Watkins The tech is a long ways away from being safe to use in public.
@Bill Anderson guess im retarded... I cant see the human element completely eliminated in urban areas
@@dkrbuckley least you admit it.
@@dkrbuckley Yes, sadly the technology already exists. It just doesn't have the necessary infrastructure yet.
After listening to this guy he has my vote. With so many FACTS hes talking I doubt alot of our country will listen. America has seem to become allergic to facts and more about agendas. I get laughed at when I go to McDonald's and tell them how the self kiosk is replacing their jobs, it was frustrating now its just a shame. People just dont get what's already in their face. Dem rep facts are facts it would be nice if everyone got on board with that after all we were all raised off rite is rite and wrong is wrong I thought. But then again common sense is pretty far from common today.
The only fact I see is Democrat say one thing and do another once in office.
Think about the piracy that will take place with the robotic truck. Somebody knocking out tires or an engine still in the goods from the inside
For real. lol. The mafias truck hijackers business will skyrocket
@se7en I think some duck or Goose shot would knock out a drone really easy
What?
Mr. Mr. a fucking slingshot would take out a drone
You can´t hack anything if it isn´t connected to a red.
This isn´t a movie, closed webs exist
I wonder how many people were telling pilots that they would soon become obsolete when autopilot systems were developed decades ago that were more advanced then than these "autonomous" trucks are now? The military even had B-17 drones back in the 50's. We should have had all drone airliners for 20 years already by now according to the socialists. Yet that hasn't happened and won't happen in the foreseeable future. Considering that planes would be a whole lot easier to completely automate than trucks as they encounter far less traffic and basically fly in a straight line I don't think truckers should be the least bit concerned. They'll just have a more advanced cruise control which I don't think they will mind.
Autopilot doesn’t have the technology to land and take off even drones need operators to do that. Plus unions and regulations kept the airlines from trying to remove the co pilot.
Autonomous vehicles need to pay the taxpayers a subsidy. Per mile.
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Get your own money, leech
I LOVE FREE MONEY JOE WTF YOU TALKING ABOUT? DON'T TRY TO REPRESENT US PO FOLKS
This is one of my reasons why I didn’t wanna get a CDL License... I can imagine out future full of automation. Wiping out most of the jobs
So what’s your next move?
I’m not a truck driver. That’s why I’m not in the field cause I fear automation
I'm a truck driver, I understand the need for ubi but I think it is a path we should not take. It is not a sustainable idea AI will keep growing and taking more jobs we would have to abolish the idea of currency and monetary policy and economics. And it still would not work sustainably. We need to embrace a system that heavenly regulates monopolies, enforce are trade busting laws, we need to end corporate welfare. We need to change our social welfare programs our social safety net to a form of meant to catch and release as thriving self-sufficient individuals not as snaring net meant to keep the person in
Joshua Oliver ubi is that social safety net, if I have money and the ability to go to college without fear of bankruptcy, or fear of getting injured and losing everything, then people have been caught and now free and I do whatever they want with their lives. Start a business, sell something, start a RUclips channel. Idk
There's a very important detail about automation that is frequently missed. Automation is not a bad thing, which will wreak havoc and should be stopped. Automation is a great thing. It means that, where 1 million people today can produce X amount of services, in the future 1 million people will produce and enjoy 10 times more stuff and services. Everybody can get much richer. The problem is making sure that there's a system to distribute the new wealth and that it doesn't stay with the few people who made the robots. Universal basic income can do it. Socialism can do it. Even communism might work. But libertarian free market capitalism can absolutely not work.
Get that man to the White House!
Learn to Code
... sorry I had to do it.
@Jimbus Rift Already happening as we speak.
AI must not replace humans in any directory as long as there are people that are unemployed. Period.
robot tax, if you want a robot you have to pay it a wage, goes into a pot and get shared out. thats all I can think of. probably a bad idea. anyone else?
Heard this idea floated a few times now, and seems like one of the more reasonable/possible options for whats...lets face it an unknown future we're currently barreling straight towards,
Question then becomes how do you benchmark the "productive worth" of any given AI system that has displaced a human ? and who gets to decide what that is ?
If nobody has a job who do they plan on selling all this stuff
Thank you Joe Rogan! I really needed to know if we should regulate automation!
Drivers will most likely become more of baby sitters than regular drivers over time. Possibly taking part in the fine detail maneuvers, road maintenance, and load/unload of products. Maintenance, tech, and trade work will continue to be viable. That said, we need systems in place to retrain people for the change in the job market. We can't forget people. Like what happened with the coal industry.
Otherwise, we will end up with another Trump, or something worse. That is hard to imagine, but it could happen if nothing changes.
I honestly don't see how any robot trucks will even be useful..think about it..people will be running these trucks off the road..if they fail..or breakdown..they will have their cargo stolen or stripped down..it's not gonna happen..people will have new jobs stealing from these trucks...it's gonna happen
Dude they will have 360 degree cameras and live streams that will alert someone if it has to stop for some reason. They will probably have one human operator watching over a fleet of 50 automated trucks until AI can replace that job.
The majority of the reasons for automation, is solely profit based. There is some good reasons but you need to legislate against it. It's that simple. UBI is an unproven and is a last resort. Legislation needs to happen
I smell agenda
As someone currently working 2 full time retail jobs to pay for commercial driving schooling just to get OUT of retail this podcast kind of scared me haha but there's always thousands of truck driving jobs that automation can't fill every single one of them
You're good for a while. It's going to take longer than we think. But it will happen one day.
You got about 10 years, max, of being able to drive through the worst weather and terrain. AI has real problems with those.
Ya we are talking 25+ years before they start replacing them all. It will take that long to build enough auto tucks.
Joe "I cannot believe I didn't ask him about truck driver's spotting ufo's" Rogan.
People that think truckers are going to be replaced by computers do not know what a trucker does. He is not just holding a steering wheel. He's monitoring and maintaining his truck all the time. Keeping an eye on wearing parts. Having them replaced. Limping his truck to the nearest service when something unexpected goes wrong. Putting chains on tires in bad weather. There is alot more to trucking then holding a wheel. Second question no one has answered. What happens when the computer gets into an accident? Who is responsible when a senser glitch causes an accident that kills people? Who is responsible? Will it be the mechanic that last serviced the vehicle? Will it be the programmer who wrote the lines of code?? Will it be the CEO of the trucking company? A trucker can and does get held responsible if he messes up. People are forgetting that trucks are VERY LARGE and going down the highways next to you. 60 000 or even up to 160 000 lbs at 70 mph racing down the highway. More of trying to de-mean the work that good people do. Your JUST a trucker. Yeah... go ahead and give it a go. Dodging a 75 foot 80 000 lbs vehicle down town through traffic and reversing it into some god awful tight spot. Then tell me someone is JUST a trucker.
Paul Carpenter most of this just seems like angst to me, but from what I’ve seen a computer can “think” over a million times faster a second than a human being can. I don’t think trucking is an easy job whatsoever but it is not a job that is exempt from the machine. Id also be much more willing to sacrifice one “computer glitch” accident than the 4,000+ people that die in truck accidents per year
Paul Carpenter and as Quin said up above, until all cars are automated and human drivers have been taken off the roads, companies will most likely need a job for a human copilot as we do with automated cars. Because a company would not risk a one million dollar computer glitch when they can just put a human in the seat for a couple thousand dollars
But don't we already do that with commercial airliners that carry 500+ people carrying a 100 thousand pounds in the night sky. It flies through snow, windstorms, clouds, intense heat, pitch black darkness.
I think it's inevitable. Maybe this is why we need universal income to protect against that inevitability.
Universal basic income will become a thing we basically already have it in many country’s we call it the dole in Australia, it takes a lot of weight off people but causes a lot of friction as well, people may like to treat each other equal or be equal but people also like to strive for greatness and to have more which will always cause an imbalance. I truly believe people will be forced to take up what few roles are left in society and watch as the jobs slowly trickle away there will be basic income for people but the friction between the rich and the regular will be stark.
There’s nothing wrong with having it in your company, but when you start replacing workers with machines that’s fucked up on too many levels to describe. This is why when the auto industry left Detroit it caused one of the largest social depressions in American history
Yesterday I started thinking about this all day. My conclusion is that 1. Everyone's income will go up 1k higher and 2. Everyone's cost of living will go up 2k.
Stonks
More people will just get bigger houses and share rooms and chip on rent get a 5 or 6 bed room and everyone getting 6 to 12 k a month if two to a room I think they'll be fine plus you can still work also
So guy running for president if you believe these truckers will become dangerous when their jobs are automated and replaced what are you suggesting be done? Sounds to me like you got something in mind but you don't want to talk about it huh. I don't think I could get on board with anyone supported by the racist Young Turks
@Morris Watkins "cry" "butthurt" ? What the fuck are you, a 12 year old boomer?
@Morris Watkins
Why is he a conservative?
Theres a reason TYT in 1 year went from 4 mill active subs and 120mill views a month to 2 mill active subs and 35 mill views a month.
They're deceptive, racist and outright fabricators of news.
what are you suggesting being done? really?
@@danzwku that's a legitimate question. What's wrong with asking questions??? I know a lot of brain-dead leftists mindlessly except information without asking questions especially if it comes from CNN or MSNBC. If something doesn't sit well there's nothing wrong with asking questions that's how you learn and understand someones positions.
He is suggesting for universal basic income.
Of course. Why ask stupid questions?