brutal. spirited away is a masterpiece but it really is about teaching little girls about hard work, kindness, greed and staying in touch with your roots such as family. yes there is some critique of over-consumption in the movie but it's not a movie for adults because the focus is on driving home the idea that kids can do better than their parents but they need to be given some space to develop.
Most of Miyazaki's works are primarily made with children in mind (with the exception of The Wind Rises ofc). He always makes a story that teaches the kids an important lesson in which perhaps the adults might learn a different thing from it.
I think that's why I'm so thankful that I saw this movie when I was younger. I think I was 8-10 the first time I saw it. My parents actually didn't want me to watch it as they thought it would be too scary (which is really funny to me after hearing Miyazaki's beliefs about children being sheltered). To this day it is still my favorite movie. I've never tried to complicate it, and I've always appreciated it for how simple it truly is. It was especially relatable at the time as I was moving houses and going to a new school... If I hadn't seen it at a young age, it wouldn't have hit me as hard. Now when I watch it I feel like I'm transported back to being a little kid just enjoying my favorite movie.
People will come with theories about the movie and hidden messages whereas Hayao himself stayed that he wanted to make a film about little girls to feel representative. Many Japanese cultural references for sure, but the point is about a girl maturing from the hardships she faced such as work, spirits and curses. Other companies try soo hard to make their messages come through that they missed the point 😂
Hey this is awesome, i am looking into Nausicaä now and often I’ll realize video essays completely go on long tangents of some theory while being ignorant of the source material or unaware of some of his earlier work that counteracts their theory. The most common i see is people praising his “ambiguity” which is in reality just his team realizing that it would be better to leave something up for the audience to interpret. Not everything has some direct translation to old yokai or myths
I watched this as a 7 or 8 year old girl, so I can just totally still view it that way. In other words, you just taught me why this movie works for me.
The first time my daughter watched Spirited Away she was 3 almost 4 and she saw herself in Chihiro copying little things like tapping the tip of her shoe after putting them on. More important was all she took away from it one being that Chihiro gained a strength and understanding she didn’t have before. She would say to me that that she learned to not be afraid of things that seemed scary just like in the movie. She was so shy and timid but she wanted to be brave in the same way. She was the target audience and learned lessons from it even if it wasn’t exactly the intent.
dude this channel is just simply underrated. I feel lucky to have found this channel when its still relatively small because aint no way this channel staying small for long. Keep it up!!!
300 subs? wtf. This was quality and extremely useful. When I finished watching this movie for the first time a couple days ago I didn't really get it (Im 20 btw). But it seems I've been overcomplicating the plot itself. Now that I think about it it reminds me of The Never Ending Story triology. Great vid and new sub!
The idea of downsizing the ideas actually makes for an interesting and less intimidating take. I'd like to write some of my own stories one day, and it gives me a bit more confidence to think that I don't alwsys need a million tying themes to make a great story full of life and philosophy
honestly when I watched it the first time, as an Southeast Asian, it just reminded me of the hungry ghost month festival, where taoist/buddhists believe in lunar 7 month to be the month where the gates of hells opened, leading to people offering food/ burning incense money to these spirits. Source: it is still commonly practiced by my family and I. I thought it was no coincidence that the location of reference was in of Jiu Fen, a city in Taiwan with a large population of the taoist and buddhist beliefs.
When I was younger I hated this movie 😂 I love it now that I’m older but when I was little I hated how she had to learn a lesson on behalf of her parents. Like she did nothing, if anything she didn’t want to be there yet here she is getting a job, forgetting who she is, and trying not to get turned into a pig.
The melody is by English composer Gustav Holst. This clip is from "Jupiter," a movement from his orchestral suite "The Planets." Though he also used that same melody elsewhere and I often hear it in Catholic masses.
I'm honestly a little confused by the way that this video is being talked about in the comments, and even some of the framing at the beginning of the video. I'm seeing a lot of people either apparently agreeing that the movie isn't saying much of anything, or criticizing the video because they think Spirited Away actually has a lot to say, but although the intro kind of implies that there isn't deeper meaning (saying that it's not social commentary, for example) that wasn't my takeaway at all. The video goes into the values, perspectives on life, and cultural/historical experiences and sources that Miyazaki drew from, and how they informed the movie. It's shaped by a particular worldview and a subsequent perspective on human nature and the experience of being a child, and the video points out how obstacles in the movie took the forms they did because of problems in society as Miyazaki understood them. If there's one thing the video made clear to me, it's that spirited away has a lot to say through how it tells its adventure story, even if it may not be immediately apparent. I don't know if I'm missing a particular set of overcomplicated takes on Spirited Away that this video is in conversation with, it could be that I'm coming in with different assumptions than a lot of other viewers. But from where I stand, ATP seems fairly aware of how the movie is meaningful, and did a convincing job of communicating it.
idk man. I didn't understand anything the first time I watched Spirited Away and still didn't really enjoy it. The joy for me only comes from the deep analyses.
Watch again. She enters a spirit world. Learns the inner workings to save her parents. It’s not too complicated. The frog and the toad people are the ones full of greed for gold. And the parents are gluttony, eating til turning to pigs.
This video is awesome, but Tangled rules man, so you have got to stop with that passive aggressive attitude towards it, or I’m coming to find you. I will make you listen to I See the Light a hundred times, then I’ve Got a Dream 500 times
Your interpretation is ridiculously simplistic and literal to the point that it devalues all the hard work that went into creating such a deep work. You’re free to enjoy the movie however you like. But thinking you understand Miyazaki’s intent, is utterly ridiculous. I recommend people check out the video Miyazaki’s Marxism to understand a more historically valid interpretation of Miyazaki’s intent. There are also of course many great videos on the literary aspects of the film. After taking those into consideration, one can see how vapid such an approach like the one used in the video really is.
@@alpacathunderproductions5412 Tangled is the best of the post Disney Renaissance era movies IMO. Disney finally figured out how to go back to basics, but in CG.
Every story will look like this if you look at this uninspiring way. LOTR is just some guys wanting to destroy a ring etc. People's attitude or expectation influence what a film is for you. I personally avoid reading / seeing works when I'm not in the mood for it. What you value / look for in a movie is important because what other people see as entertaining might not be interesting to you. Tldr. Why are you judging a painting like you're an engineer?
Thanks for commenting. Perhaps you skipped it but I claim pretty quickly that I just wanted to take Miyazaki’s own point of view for this one, from his own book, Turning Point. And I’d hazard to call Miyazaki and engineer. I recommend the book, it’s a great read. It only made me love Ghibli films even more
@@alpacathunderproductions5412 You do though. Your interpretation is ridiculously simplistic and literal to the point that it devalues the all hard work that went into creating a deep work. You’re free to enjoy the movie however you like. But thinking you understand Miyazaki’s intent, is utterly ridiculous.
art is meant to be interpreted by the viewer. I think whatever you feel the art is saying is what it's saying, if that's what you got from it. that's why I love art, the artist can convey a completely different message from the one I decode and they're both completely valid.
brutal. spirited away is a masterpiece but it really is about teaching little girls about hard work, kindness, greed and staying in touch with your roots such as family. yes there is some critique of over-consumption in the movie but it's not a movie for adults because the focus is on driving home the idea that kids can do better than their parents but they need to be given some space to develop.
Most of Miyazaki's works are primarily made with children in mind (with the exception of The Wind Rises ofc). He always makes a story that teaches the kids an important lesson in which perhaps the adults might learn a different thing from it.
The movie is for families, not just for kids.
How mindlessly superficial can one take be?
@@Liliquan about as mindlessly superficial as this comment u wacko . Maybe backup your point instead of using dumb words lol wtf
Their movies are for every ages not only for kids, that's Disney formula.
I think that's why I'm so thankful that I saw this movie when I was younger. I think I was 8-10 the first time I saw it. My parents actually didn't want me to watch it as they thought it would be too scary (which is really funny to me after hearing Miyazaki's beliefs about children being sheltered).
To this day it is still my favorite movie. I've never tried to complicate it, and I've always appreciated it for how simple it truly is.
It was especially relatable at the time as I was moving houses and going to a new school...
If I hadn't seen it at a young age, it wouldn't have hit me as hard. Now when I watch it I feel like I'm transported back to being a little kid just enjoying my favorite movie.
People will come with theories about the movie and hidden messages whereas Hayao himself stayed that he wanted to make a film about little girls to feel representative. Many Japanese cultural references for sure, but the point is about a girl maturing from the hardships she faced such as work, spirits and curses.
Other companies try soo hard to make their messages come through that they missed the point 😂
Hey this is awesome, i am looking into Nausicaä now and often I’ll realize video essays completely go on long tangents of some theory while being ignorant of the source material or unaware of some of his earlier work that counteracts their theory.
The most common i see is people praising his “ambiguity” which is in reality just his team realizing that it would be better to leave something up for the audience to interpret. Not everything has some direct translation to old yokai or myths
I watched this as a 7 or 8 year old girl, so I can just totally still view it that way. In other words, you just taught me why this movie works for me.
The first time my daughter watched Spirited Away she was 3 almost 4 and she saw herself in Chihiro copying little things like tapping the tip of her shoe after putting them on. More important was all she took away from it one being that Chihiro gained a strength and understanding she didn’t have before. She would say to me that that she learned to not be afraid of things that seemed scary just like in the movie. She was so shy and timid but she wanted to be brave in the same way. She was the target audience and learned lessons from it even if it wasn’t exactly the intent.
Why is this video and this channel so goddamn underrated, easily on-par with high quality 200k+ subscribers channels
Aww shucks thanks
dude this channel is just simply underrated. I feel lucky to have found this channel when its still relatively small because aint no way this channel staying small for long. Keep it up!!!
Thanks! We’ll keep trying to improve
300 subs? wtf. This was quality and extremely useful. When I finished watching this movie for the first time a couple days ago I didn't really get it (Im 20 btw). But it seems I've been overcomplicating the plot itself. Now that I think about it it reminds me of The Never Ending Story triology. Great vid and new sub!
Amazing. Thanks for the kinds words
Great video essay!
Not going to lie, subscribed after that self ad. I haven’t even finished watching, which I know I will.
Haha thanks!
The idea of downsizing the ideas actually makes for an interesting and less intimidating take. I'd like to write some of my own stories one day, and it gives me a bit more confidence to think that I don't alwsys need a million tying themes to make a great story full of life and philosophy
How have I not found you before!?! I love this video!! I’ll go check out your other ones.
Thanks! The quality may vary as we’re still learning hah
Forever thankful to the algorithm for bringing me here
loved this bro
Why doesn't this man have over 100k subs yet? ANSWER ME RUclips!!!!
honestly when I watched it the first time, as an Southeast Asian, it just reminded me of the hungry ghost month festival, where taoist/buddhists believe in lunar 7 month to be the month where the gates of hells opened, leading to people offering food/ burning incense money to these spirits. Source: it is still commonly practiced by my family and I.
I thought it was no coincidence that the location of reference was in of Jiu Fen, a city in Taiwan with a large population of the taoist and buddhist beliefs.
Interesting!
When I was younger I hated this movie 😂 I love it now that I’m older but when I was little I hated how she had to learn a lesson on behalf of her parents. Like she did nothing, if anything she didn’t want to be there yet here she is getting a job, forgetting who she is, and trying not to get turned into a pig.
Love this video, keep up vids like these!
Thanks for the support!
So Spirited Away is actually a japanese version of Alice in Wonderland with sometimes subtle and mature themes I guess.
Love the video! :D
0:54 song name? It doesn't seem to be included in the description. It should be between "leave it all behind us" and "nocturne".
I vow to thee my country
The melody is by English composer Gustav Holst. This clip is from "Jupiter," a movement from his orchestral suite "The Planets." Though he also used that same melody elsewhere and I often hear it in Catholic masses.
That was a good ad.
I'm honestly a little confused by the way that this video is being talked about in the comments, and even some of the framing at the beginning of the video.
I'm seeing a lot of people either apparently agreeing that the movie isn't saying much of anything, or criticizing the video because they think Spirited Away actually has a lot to say, but although the intro kind of implies that there isn't deeper meaning (saying that it's not social commentary, for example) that wasn't my takeaway at all.
The video goes into the values, perspectives on life, and cultural/historical experiences and sources that Miyazaki drew from, and how they informed the movie. It's shaped by a particular worldview and a subsequent perspective on human nature and the experience of being a child, and the video points out how obstacles in the movie took the forms they did because of problems in society as Miyazaki understood them. If there's one thing the video made clear to me, it's that spirited away has a lot to say through how it tells its adventure story, even if it may not be immediately apparent.
I don't know if I'm missing a particular set of overcomplicated takes on Spirited Away that this video is in conversation with, it could be that I'm coming in with different assumptions than a lot of other viewers. But from where I stand, ATP seems fairly aware of how the movie is meaningful, and did a convincing job of communicating it.
Damn, so that’s what it feels like to be heard 🥲
Great video!
Thanks! Much appreciated.
Comment for the algorithm :-)
“During a day off … at the office.”
That’s not a day off
"It's not a coming of age story" tell that to the Chihiro-Haku shippers
❤
This video taught me that even tho I am a 33 year old man, my taste in film is that of a 10 year old girl. Huh.
"believe the difference"
idk man. I didn't understand anything the first time I watched Spirited Away and still didn't really enjoy it. The joy for me only comes from the deep analyses.
Watch again. She enters a spirit world. Learns the inner workings to save her parents. It’s not too complicated. The frog and the toad people are the ones full of greed for gold. And the parents are gluttony, eating til turning to pigs.
This video is awesome, but Tangled rules man, so you have got to stop with that passive aggressive attitude towards it, or I’m coming to find you. I will make you listen to I See the Light a hundred times, then I’ve Got a Dream 500 times
How odd. All of a sudden I see the light.
@@alpacathunderproductions5412 at last
Your interpretation is ridiculously simplistic and literal to the point that it devalues all the hard work that went into creating such a deep work. You’re free to enjoy the movie however you like. But thinking you understand Miyazaki’s intent, is utterly ridiculous.
I recommend people check out the video Miyazaki’s Marxism to understand a more historically valid interpretation of Miyazaki’s intent. There are also of course many great videos on the literary aspects of the film.
After taking those into consideration, one can see how vapid such an approach like the one used in the video really is.
Ya these guys are vapid
@@alpacathunderproductions5412 Your response is so thoughtful it almost leaves me lost for words.
Man what do you have against tangled
Love the movie, just needed an example. Gonna go work on my smolder
@@alpacathunderproductions5412 Tangled is the best of the post Disney Renaissance era movies IMO.
Disney finally figured out how to go back to basics, but in CG.
Every story will look like this if you look at this uninspiring way. LOTR is just some guys wanting to destroy a ring etc. People's attitude or expectation influence what a film is for you. I personally avoid reading / seeing works when I'm not in the mood for it. What you value / look for in a movie is important because what other people see as entertaining might not be interesting to you.
Tldr. Why are you judging a painting like you're an engineer?
Thanks for commenting. Perhaps you skipped it but I claim pretty quickly that I just wanted to take Miyazaki’s own point of view for this one, from his own book, Turning Point. And I’d hazard to call Miyazaki and engineer. I recommend the book, it’s a great read. It only made me love Ghibli films even more
Not your best, guys! Do better.
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What an awful video, lol! Love Spirited Away but this was not well done. 👎
Ya these guys suck
There’s always that guy😂
@@alpacathunderproductions5412 You do though. Your interpretation is ridiculously simplistic and literal to the point that it devalues the all hard work that went into creating a deep work. You’re free to enjoy the movie however you like. But thinking you understand Miyazaki’s intent, is utterly ridiculous.
I appreciate your leave to enjoy the film 🙇♂️
@@alpacathunderproductions5412 Maybe if you took constructive criticism to heart your channel would grow faster
art is meant to be interpreted by the viewer. I think whatever you feel the art is saying is what it's saying, if that's what you got from it. that's why I love art, the artist can convey a completely different message from the one I decode and they're both completely valid.
Well said