I just started getting into vintage racebikes when buying a 1985 Kettler Alpha and stumbled upon your videos. They really helped me out with bringing life into this old bike, love your energy and charisma!
Thanks for uploading this video. I have some Benotto ‘Tresse De Guidon” professionelle - new old stock bar tape to wrap today and had no prior knowledge of how it was done in the 80’s.
Thanks brother! I think this gave me the confidence to wrap my first set, been staring at the bar tape I bought for a week, haha! The fact you did it on a vintage Raleigh, as I'm about to do a vintage Raleigh Mixte, made it that much more fun to watch! Be well!
Good old Bennotto Bar tape... It came in two types smooth and grippy... Was about 3 pounds back in the 80s. used tons of the stuff. had a habit of splitting sometimes if you hit the deck.. ! Tended to go bottom up if it was a handlebar control bike to guide the outer cable.. it also ended up short a lot of the time as you mentioned can happen in the video. :)..
Great video Andy. When I owned my Raliegh Triathlon I would always wrap my bars this way, personally I found it more asthetically pleasing. All the best for the new year. John.
In the early to mid 80’s all I used on my race bikes was Benotto Celo tape, almost everybody at that time wrapped Benotto tape from the bottom up and used finishing strips .. usually colored electrical tape. We also used two short pieces of the Benotto behind each brake lever .. usually held in place by electrical tape.
I have watched many videos of this form of wrapping , but you are the only one I have seen and specifically state to wind the tape away from the bike in direction, all other videos show it running over towards the back of the bike , is there a reason for this difference ?
Short answer…no. Hmm generally I get that it’s wrapped from the bottom up but in the early 80s so many was wrapped from the top. I’d honestly not picked up on if it was away or towards. Thanks for watching
Hi, great video. It would fantastic if you could list the places you source your vintage parts from. I've got a bike I'm trying to find some vintage bartape for, but I'm finding it difficult!
This video started out great, but right at the most important part, the "forming an X" (at the brake clamp) the video cuts off to the end of the bar..... :(
Great looking retro ride. Think I'll have to do this on my Dawes (possibly Celeste) project. But toying with the idea of a matching seat, and whether or not to leave the mud guards on????
Hello and thanks for watching! Regarding mud guards My personal option is a Road Bike looks more sporty and runs better without. However if you ride a lot in the rain 🌧 then they make sense. Thanks for tuning in and watching all the best 👍Andy
How does one remove adhesive from (fiberglass tape?) .. The previous owner did a shabby job maintaining his bike and used it on the handlebar. Rubbing alcohol/regular hand soap kinda works, but i could use something stronger to save some time.
OK I've got several Questions. What handlebar Tape is that what you've used in this video? How about cotton Handlebars? Would you suggest using some shellack on cotton handlebars? What handlebartape would you use for an early 80s bicycle?
Thanks for watching the handlebar tape used in the video is Benotto handlebar tape. Yes cotton handlebar tape can also be wrapped in the same way and I wouldn’t recommend using shellack. Benotto or leather handlebar tape was used in the 1980s. I hope this helps 👍
@@BikeItUK Thanks for the answer really appreciate it. I like your videos and projects. It's so satisfying to see how you blow new life into all these old bicycles. But sadly though getting a benotto bartape is pretty hard. So i finally bought some white cotton tape, restoring a cilo right now. Using your way of polishing all the parts right now. So thanks for the good videos and the answer. :-) keep on with that amazing work.
I am blissfully ignorant of the various types of tape and their advantages/disadvantages. I bought my 1978 Raleigh Grand Prix second-hand and it has black tape that, thought slightly scruffy, does not need currently changing from a functional point of view. Can anyone advise me of what would be the best replacement tape brand to use when I do decide to replace the tape? I am quite happy with the existing black colour and I think black might be less prone to showing scuffs and marks. The colour of my frame is Bronze.
I'm currently using cinelli's basic cork tape and it's great, although might not be what you're after if you're looking to keep it period correct- it's a lot thicker than the tapes used back then.
Roy Gardiner can second that, I just wrapped my handlebars with Cinelli’s black cork tape and it looks and feels great plus it’s fairly inexpensive and easy to install
Hiya Andy, happy 2019 to you and yours wish you health to boast about, and all you desire. Nice video video very timely I want to wrap mi risers with bar tape and this will certainly be helpful 😊 thanks 4 the detail and easy information and process. Cheers
Hay buddy, all the very best to you to Sir. I hope that life if treating you well and more importantly that you are enjoying yourself. I hope to get a lot more done this year so watch this space. Andy
My missus just asked me why I was smiling like an idiot at my screen= easy, just found a new video from BikeIt UK!! She thinks I'm nuts but nice to see you back mate, and Happy New Year 2019!!!
Hello and thank you for your comment, the tape varies from the vintage shiny plastic bar tape to the more standard cork ribbon. I’d say as a general rule I mainly use the vintage leather look but this all depends on the bike. I try and match the original to what was on the bike. I hope this helps all the best Andy
I wrap my bars from the tops to the brake levers, then 're start from bar ends back to brake levers. That way I can change just the to or lower half & have 2 colours if I choose.
That is interesting because here in the UK 🇬🇧 they sell for as much as £20. If I fly to Mexico again I’ll have to fill a suitcase 🧳. Thanks for the comment all the very best Andy
I'm still after a pre-Team colours Corsa. This was in pearl metallic and AFAIK only made in 1984. IMO, this Corsa looks better on black bar tape, which is what the near-identical '85 model had.
Hi the pearl white has become near impossible to get hold of now. I agree with the black it’s what I always remember the Corsa having as a kid. It’s not until now when you study all the brochures that they had slight variations. Thanks for the comment all the best Andy
@@BikeItUK Thank you !! I do believe that this model is the "Team Corsa". Just looking through the Raleigh '83, '84 & '85 brochures, they made some stunning racers back then. I passed on a metallic pearl Corsa a few years back on E-Bay as it was priced at £230-ish, which I thought was a bit much for that bike. With hindsight, I should have bought it as it would have added to my fleet nicely (although they are mostly '85 bikes from the Raleigh Lightweights Catalogue)
Really dislike this method as the tape roles between the top of the bars and the hoods but I'm open to new ideas. So please feel free to tell me I'm wrong Andy
Hi thanks for watching, to be honest these are old ideas. In the 1980s many handlebars were wrapped from top to bottom. Looks over efficiency, sounds about right for the 80’s. My modern carbon Canyon bikes are all wrapped from bottom to upwards but my period retro rides generally wrapped as they were back then. In all honesty I’ve not had the issues of the tape slipping either way. I hope this explains things a little more. Thanks Andy 👍
@@BikeItUK maybe it's the modern type of tape that slips and that's why we now go the other way. My 1970s Viking is all modern stuff as its my only road bike and the one I do things like Lands End to John O Groats on so I like my modern comforts. I really loved the bike and that frame has a fantastic feel when riding.
Hi that’s for the comment I will be doing more videos. I try and keep the restoration videos to around 12 minutes now due to viewing retention. Stripping the bike down is about 15 to 20 but the rebuild can take a lot longer. I am wanting to do a lot more how to videos at a much slower pace. I hope this makes sense. Thanks for the support all the best Andy
Sorry Andy, but I have to say that this is completely wrong. You ALWAYS start from the bottom and up. I have been raising amateur and professionals between 1975 and 1991 in all Europe, and I have never ever seen anyone wrap handlebars top to bottom! Only one time did I see it, and that was in a bicycle shop with some low quality raising bikes. I don’t know where you got the impression that this was the right way on vintage bikes, but those people who had done it this way, or told you this was the right way in the old days were completely wrong. Just ask anyone who have been into real bicycle raising😉
No worries I’ve even had workers at Raleigh and other remorse’s confirm this was right it creates such a debate. Funny, even GCN has covered this on modern ride saying even some pro modern bikes have used this technique. I understand the theory from bottom to top and even have both my Canyons wrapped in this manner. I have many images to back this type of wrapping was done in the 80’s early 90’s. As I say this subject creates such a debate. 😉 Thanks for watching and your support
I like your channel, but it's getting sloppy. That was no use, and you did a poor job too - gaps around the front brake lever,. You should spend more time showing people detail, like how to do the "X" (or figure 8) at the lever. You've done lots of vids, you shoud be better than this by now. I've got 50yrs experience, but people starting out need help, and you are not giving it. Check out the Park Tools vid on the same subject, they leave people in no doubt about how to do the job.
Yes this is correct however when restoring retro road bikes pre 1988 the bikes you will find were taped from the top downwards because it illuminated the need for extra tape and looked better. My modern rides are all taped from bottom upwards. Thanks Andy
@@BikeItUK yes ok, the better way was the so-called harlequin-winding to make maybe synonymous only with a single color handlebar tape to not let the open edges to point inwards. so i have often seen it on high end wheels of yesteryear.
I just started getting into vintage racebikes when buying a 1985 Kettler Alpha and stumbled upon your videos. They really helped me out with bringing life into this old bike, love your energy and charisma!
Thanks for your supporting comment and watching glad you are finding the videos useful. Enjoy and all the best doing your restoration 👍🚲
Thanks for uploading this video. I have some Benotto ‘Tresse De Guidon” professionelle - new old stock bar tape to wrap today and had no prior knowledge of how it was done in the 80’s.
Thanks for your support it’s much appreciated. Take your time enjoy 👍
Thanks brother! I think this gave me the confidence to wrap my first set, been staring at the bar tape I bought for a week, haha! The fact you did it on a vintage Raleigh, as I'm about to do a vintage Raleigh Mixte, made it that much more fun to watch! Be well!
Many thanks and glad you’ve found the video helpful 👍
Good old Bennotto Bar tape... It came in two types smooth and grippy... Was about 3 pounds back in the 80s. used tons of the stuff. had a habit of splitting sometimes if you hit the deck.. ! Tended to go bottom up if it was a handlebar control bike to guide the outer cable.. it also ended up short a lot of the time as you mentioned can happen in the video. :)..
Love hearing of personal tales of products gone by, thanks for the comment and sharing. All the best and thanks for your support
HAPPY NEW YEAR MATE! Good to see back.
Happy New Year to you also. Thanks for the support just getting straight from last year so hoping to get a lot more done this year 👍
Great video Andy. When I owned my Raliegh Triathlon I would always wrap my bars this way, personally I found it more asthetically pleasing.
All the best for the new year.
John.
Thanks John for the support and all the very best to you also Andy 👍
In the early to mid 80’s all I used on my race bikes was Benotto Celo tape, almost everybody at that time wrapped Benotto tape from the bottom up and used finishing strips .. usually colored electrical tape. We also used two short pieces of the Benotto behind each brake lever .. usually held in place by electrical tape.
Thanks for watching and your experience it’s much appreciated 👍
Great job and nice demo Andy! the original white bar tape really makes the bike gleam with period correct luster...
Crack On mate!
Thanks buddy and all the very best for the New Year! 👍 Thanks for your support Andy 😉🚲
I have watched many videos of this form of wrapping , but you are the only one I have seen and specifically state to wind the tape away from the bike in direction, all other videos show it running over towards the back of the bike , is there a reason for this difference ?
Short answer…no. Hmm generally I get that it’s wrapped from the bottom up but in the early 80s so many was wrapped from the top. I’d honestly not picked up on if it was away or towards. Thanks for watching
Nice video. Great tips for a tricky job.
Thanks for the support Rob 😉 👍
Hey videos are great have u ever done one where u re spray a frame?
Hi, great video. It would fantastic if you could list the places you source your vintage parts from. I've got a bike I'm trying to find some vintage bartape for, but I'm finding it difficult!
Hi thanks for watching the majority is eBay and recently managed to locate an item on a Facebook group. I hope this helps. Andy
Any idea on how to repair a dropdown handle bar when it is moving within the sleeve.
its a Modolo anatomic slope tech bar off a 1990 Cannondale
Hi not to sure maybe send us an image via message on our social media platforms. Thanks for watching
This video started out great, but right at the most important part, the "forming an X" (at the brake clamp) the video cuts off to the end of the bar..... :(
Great looking retro ride. Think I'll have to do this on my Dawes (possibly Celeste) project. But toying with the idea of a matching seat, and whether or not to leave the mud guards on????
Hello and thanks for watching! Regarding mud guards My personal option is a Road Bike looks more sporty and runs better without. However if you ride a lot in the rain 🌧 then they make sense. Thanks for tuning in and watching all the best 👍Andy
Thanks Andy
Not restoration but been looking at doing this direction again like I tried before on my planet x rtd90 bike
Hope it helped thanks for watching
Is that Benotto tape? I remember that well - it was a bit slippery but was easy to clean and was very neat and tidy !
Yes it is...a blast from the past hope it brought back some fond memories 👍🚲
How does one remove adhesive from (fiberglass tape?) ..
The previous owner did a shabby job maintaining his bike and used it on the handlebar.
Rubbing alcohol/regular hand soap kinda works, but i could use something stronger to save some time.
Thanks for watching, I personally have use petrol before now. Which is a thinner, I hope this helps
OK I've got several Questions.
What handlebar Tape is that what you've used in this video? How about cotton Handlebars? Would you suggest using some shellack on cotton handlebars?
What handlebartape would you use for an early 80s bicycle?
Thanks for watching the handlebar tape used in the video is Benotto handlebar tape. Yes cotton handlebar tape can also be wrapped in the same way and I wouldn’t recommend using shellack. Benotto or leather handlebar tape was used in the 1980s. I hope this helps 👍
@@BikeItUK Thanks for the answer really appreciate it.
I like your videos and projects. It's so satisfying to see how you blow new life into all these old bicycles.
But sadly though getting a benotto bartape is pretty hard. So i finally bought some white cotton tape, restoring a cilo right now. Using your way of polishing all the parts right now.
So thanks for the good videos and the answer. :-)
keep on with that amazing work.
I am blissfully ignorant of the various types of tape and their advantages/disadvantages. I bought my 1978 Raleigh Grand Prix second-hand and it has black tape that, thought slightly scruffy, does not need currently changing from a functional point of view.
Can anyone advise me of what would be the best replacement tape brand to use when I do decide to replace the tape? I am quite happy with the existing black colour and I think black might be less prone to showing scuffs and marks. The colour of my frame is Bronze.
I'm currently using cinelli's basic cork tape and it's great, although might not be what you're after if you're looking to keep it period correct- it's a lot thicker than the tapes used back then.
Many thanks for your help!@@jamesconvey4239
Roy Gardiner can second that, I just wrapped my handlebars with Cinelli’s black cork tape and it looks and feels great plus it’s fairly inexpensive and easy to install
Thanks for your advice @@rudytorres4917 !
Hiya Andy, happy 2019 to you and yours wish you health to boast about, and all you desire.
Nice video video very timely I want to wrap mi risers with bar tape and this will certainly be helpful 😊 thanks 4 the detail and easy information and process. Cheers
Hay buddy, all the very best to you to Sir. I hope that life if treating you well and more importantly that you are enjoying yourself. I hope to get a lot more done this year so watch this space. Andy
@@BikeItUK 🇬🇧 looking forward to see what's coming Andy, you always deliver the best on what you do so can't wait 🙏🙂
@@naujaral2131 Thank you pleasure
My missus just asked me why I was smiling like an idiot at my screen= easy, just found a new video from BikeIt UK!! She thinks I'm nuts but nice to see you back mate, and Happy New Year 2019!!!
Mate! nice message thanks and Happy New Year to you and the Mrs 👍😉
good day. What kind of tape do you use for your projects?
Hello and thank you for your comment, the tape varies from the vintage shiny plastic bar tape to the more standard cork ribbon. I’d say as a general rule I mainly use the vintage leather look but this all depends on the bike. I try and match the original to what was on the bike. I hope this helps all the best Andy
I wrap my bars from the tops to the brake levers, then 're start from bar ends back to brake levers. That way I can change just the to or lower half & have 2 colours if I choose.
Sound great that I’ll have to give it a go. Thanks for watching and the tip on how you wrap your own handlebars. All the best Andy
How do you join the 2 ends up neatly then?
@@Stoney3K underneath each the brake lever hoods, normally secure them with electrical tape.
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Where do you get the vintage benotto type tape?
Generally from eBay is becoming more expensive and harder to find the peal white
That appears to be a benotto tape, if that's the case, here in Mexico you can buy them for a cheaply 30 pesos or 1.5 dollars in all sorts of colors.
That is interesting because here in the UK 🇬🇧 they sell for as much as £20. If I fly to Mexico again I’ll have to fill a suitcase 🧳. Thanks for the comment all the very best Andy
I'm still after a pre-Team colours Corsa. This was in pearl metallic and AFAIK only made in 1984.
IMO, this Corsa looks better on black bar tape, which is what the near-identical '85 model had.
Hi the pearl white has become near impossible to get hold of now. I agree with the black it’s what I always remember the Corsa having as a kid. It’s not until now when you study all the brochures that they had slight variations. Thanks for the comment all the best Andy
@@BikeItUK
Thank you !! I do believe that this model is the "Team Corsa".
Just looking through the Raleigh '83, '84 & '85 brochures, they made some stunning racers back then.
I passed on a metallic pearl Corsa a few years back on E-Bay as it was priced at £230-ish, which I thought was a bit much for that bike. With hindsight, I should have bought it as it would have added to my fleet nicely (although they are mostly '85 bikes from the Raleigh Lightweights Catalogue)
Been a while without any new video
Hi I’m on the verge of a Kestral restoration and got a special Raleigh on the go. Sorry for the delay 👍🚲
Really dislike this method as the tape roles between the top of the bars and the hoods but I'm open to new ideas. So please feel free to tell me I'm wrong Andy
Hi thanks for watching, to be honest these are old ideas. In the 1980s many handlebars were wrapped from top to bottom. Looks over efficiency, sounds about right for the 80’s. My modern carbon Canyon bikes are all wrapped from bottom to upwards but my period retro rides generally wrapped as they were back then. In all honesty I’ve not had the issues of the tape slipping either way. I hope this explains things a little more. Thanks Andy 👍
@@BikeItUK maybe it's the modern type of tape that slips and that's why we now go the other way. My 1970s Viking is all modern stuff as its my only road bike and the one I do things like Lands End to John O Groats on so I like my modern comforts. I really loved the bike and that frame has a fantastic feel when riding.
I felt like I was watching cycling Art Attack.
😂thanks for watching 👍
Starts at 2:28
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Please dont speed up the rebuild, we are watcing every step. Post more Vids🙏🏼
Hi that’s for the comment I will be doing more videos. I try and keep the restoration videos to around 12 minutes now due to viewing retention. Stripping the bike down is about 15 to 20 but the rebuild can take a lot longer. I am wanting to do a lot more how to videos at a much slower pace. I hope this makes sense. Thanks for the support all the best Andy
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Sorry Andy, but I have to say that this is completely wrong. You ALWAYS start from the bottom and up. I have been raising amateur and professionals between 1975 and 1991 in all Europe, and I have never ever seen anyone wrap handlebars top to bottom! Only one time did I see it, and that was in a bicycle shop with some low quality raising bikes. I don’t know where you got the impression that this was the right way on vintage bikes, but those people who had done it this way, or told you this was the right way in the old days were completely wrong. Just ask anyone who have been into real bicycle raising😉
No worries I’ve even had workers at Raleigh and other remorse’s confirm this was right it creates such a debate. Funny, even GCN has covered this on modern ride saying even some pro modern bikes have used this technique. I understand the theory from bottom to top and even have both my Canyons wrapped in this manner. I have many images to back this type of wrapping was done in the 80’s early 90’s. As I say this subject creates such a debate. 😉 Thanks for watching and your support
I agree with u31r.but each to there own.if it stays on and the owner is happy with it I guess that's all that matters.
Tutto sbagliato. Si inizia dal basso
In the 80’s many started from the top. Thanks for watching
I like your channel, but it's getting sloppy. That was no use, and you did a poor job too - gaps around the front brake lever,. You should spend more time showing people detail, like how to do the "X" (or figure 8) at the lever. You've done lots of vids, you shoud be better than this by now. I've got 50yrs experience, but people starting out need help, and you are not giving it. Check out the Park Tools vid on the same subject, they leave people in no doubt about how to do the job.
Thanks for watching and your support sorry you feel this way I’ll take your points on board and try and do better. All the very best Andy
complete wrong!
Sorry please explain? Thanks Andy
@@BikeItUK The direction is not right, there is no way to start from the top because the open tape edges always point inwards and peel off.
Yes this is correct however when restoring retro road bikes pre 1988 the bikes you will find were taped from the top downwards because it illuminated the need for extra tape and looked better. My modern rides are all taped from bottom upwards. Thanks Andy
@@BikeItUK yes ok, the better way was the so-called harlequin-winding to make maybe synonymous only with a single color handlebar tape to not let the open edges to point inwards.
so i have often seen it on high end wheels of yesteryear.