Batman Black and White - A Good Comics Experiment from the 1990s

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
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Комментарии • 65

  • @aztektheultimatewoman
    @aztektheultimatewoman 3 года назад +46

    I’d love to see a Kayfabe episode on the Solo series.

    • @antr7493
      @antr7493 3 года назад

      Hopefully your talking about "Solo (1994 Marvel)"

  • @cassisbrook
    @cassisbrook 3 года назад +17

    Brian Bolland's straight to the point way of dealing with Batman was...straight to the point.

  • @VIARideas
    @VIARideas 3 года назад +20

    Super surprised that they dedicated so many words of affection to my teacher José Muñoz! Thank you on his behalf. I don't know if you've considered it, but perhaps you'll find it interesting to take a look at the work of another student of José Muñoz_ Francisco Solano Lopez, the illustrator of "El Eternauta", the iconic Argentinean agricultural novel published during the military dictatorship and for which its author was kidnapped and disappeared.

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  3 года назад +6

      Love José Muñoz's art. It's like magic. As for the Eternaut, yes! That's the only Francisco Solano Lopez art that I've seen, but I thought it was excellent! Gorgeous art and storytelling in that one. Here's a video we made about it: ruclips.net/video/RQjDy1J71cI/видео.html

    • @VIARideas
      @VIARideas 3 года назад +3

      @@CartoonistKayfabe Oh, great! I missed that video. Thank you!

  • @jamesgreato
    @jamesgreato 3 года назад +16

    Perfect timing guys! The new Batman B&W miniseries starts this week with some pretty great artists (Tradd Moore and JH Williams III just to name a couple).

    • @jamesgreato
      @jamesgreato 3 года назад

      @@roymakescomics what I find astonishing is that he does everything with a brush! I would’ve bet money that he was an all digital artist because of his level of detail and crisp line.

    • @gabrieljimenez9762
      @gabrieljimenez9762 3 года назад +2

      JH Wiliams is one of those artists that I'll get whatever he is working on. Love his stuff.

  • @geoffyuendesign
    @geoffyuendesign 3 года назад +7

    Not enough people talk about Matt Wagner. Seriously underrated cartoonist.

  • @mattprather3140
    @mattprather3140 3 года назад +8

    Really liked the Batman black and white series and have picked up the subsequent trades. Wednesday Comics and the Solo series are successful experiments in my mind, I bought them. It was a fun look guys. So many great artists in this series. Love watching you guys poor over cool sequential art.

  • @Phantoman7
    @Phantoman7 3 года назад +6

    The end of the Simonson story seems very timely!

  • @RaulGonzalez-ee7wl
    @RaulGonzalez-ee7wl 3 года назад +7

    Matt Wagner knows how to do Batman justice. Faces is brilliant.

    • @RandomAccessDreams
      @RandomAccessDreams 3 года назад +4

      Matt Wagner is a dark horse for "Best Batman writer/artist no one talks about", he captures the pulp origins of the character.

    • @largefactory
      @largefactory 2 года назад

      @@RandomAccessDreams - Mad Monk and Monster Men are fire

  • @Elizabetty
    @Elizabetty 3 года назад +8

    I think Vol 2 has one of my favourite short story by Enrique Breccia

  • @cthulhuhandluke8026
    @cthulhuhandluke8026 3 года назад +4

    " the abyss yawned and I fell " - two face

  • @jyrkivainio425
    @jyrkivainio425 3 года назад +4

    Haha! You guys are reading my mind: I was just looking at those books thinking: Cartoonist Kayfabe should cover these!

  • @kasraghanbari
    @kasraghanbari Год назад +2

    Walt Simonson told me that he was outright jealous of Ted McKeever's idea to use an autopsy as the structure for Batman to have a sort of "dialogue" with the deceased so that she would reveal who her killer was.

  • @bradfrederick1135
    @bradfrederick1135 3 года назад +4

    The Bolland & Timm stories and the Toth cover were highlights for me

  • @jlolsson2
    @jlolsson2 3 года назад +2

    Guys, this channel is my favorite comics channel at RUclips at the moment! It’s like the wishlist I never wrote....almost every new post lately, is covering one of my favorite comics or series...... and your views are so interesting! Just keep it coming!

  • @gongorelocksmagiincommand
    @gongorelocksmagiincommand 3 года назад +4

    man, if anything's is gonna inspire one to start inking it's these stories!

  • @strawhattheory3607
    @strawhattheory3607 3 года назад +3

    Artwork is dope, love the black and white. Might do a pen and ink piece for my channel next.

  • @janderjanus2036
    @janderjanus2036 3 года назад +3

    Your wrestling references are delicious!
    That Average Joe story by Bolland was included in a reprint of The Killing Joke here in Spain

  • @gb7995
    @gb7995 3 года назад +14

    KAYFABERS, the official Kubert school RUclips recently uploaded those videos Ed is talking about. Check them out asap

    • @russworks2882
      @russworks2882 3 года назад

      Watching him draw is incredible. He pencils like Michelangelo.

    • @gb7995
      @gb7995 3 года назад +2

      @@russworks2882 It really changed the way I view my own work.

  • @k.drawscomics4422
    @k.drawscomics4422 3 года назад +4

    Around the time it came out, I got a "polite rejection letter" from DC plus this mini-series signed by some of the creators. Anybody knows why? Was it some kind of promo or what?

  • @demetriusdillard2863
    @demetriusdillard2863 Год назад

    I love the initial Batman: Black And White limited series from '96! Every single issue is a masterpiece! I have the trade paperback downloaded on my Kindle!

  • @thomasleon9550
    @thomasleon9550 3 года назад +3

    Always been a huge, huge fan of Batman Black and White, even bought the whole run of Gotham Knights that had the b&w backup stories. The series led me to find some of my favorite Cartoonists of all time, a real gateway. I've always thought that of those first four issues, that Liberatore one is one of the weakest, and I've always kinda written him off because of that, but I will totally be giving him a second chance after Jim's recommendation! Thanks dudes.

  • @antdujar
    @antdujar 3 года назад +1

    One of my fave anthologies that I own. To me, this is what Batman is to me. A detective. I feel that this side of Batman has been missing on a massive level these last few years. That and all of the creators on this book showed me and many others that you can do anything. It’s all about the good story and artistic execution. I own volume 1 and volume 4. I’m hoping with the new 2020batman black and white series would do things in the spirit of the first 4. Even during the 2011 black and white series, it just wasn’t as interesting and experimental as the original series. The range of artists, cartoonists, of various comic genres and mediums, just hasn’t been done again with the 2011 series. So hopefully they’ll do that again for the new one.

  • @Phantoman7
    @Phantoman7 3 года назад +3

    After seeing the Silvestri piece here, I have to ask... When oh when will we finally get to be blessed with Silvestri's Batman book (that he has shared some glimpses of)?

  • @elpadrino1128
    @elpadrino1128 3 года назад +2

    You guys should do more episodes on Kevin Nowlan

  • @keithroberts4754
    @keithroberts4754 3 года назад

    I got to meet and chat with Kevin nowlan when i was 14, he was very encouraging, and asked about my drawings even taking a moment to give a pointer.

  • @peterm.fitzpatrick7735
    @peterm.fitzpatrick7735 Год назад

    Wow! I love black and white comic art, and you guys have satisfied my needs today!

  • @awesomebillfromdawsonville9633
    @awesomebillfromdawsonville9633 3 года назад

    That oldschool batmobile with the shield is one of my favs too

  • @kurtk7838
    @kurtk7838 3 года назад +2

    Ted McKeever is the man-- you should look into "Industrial Gothic" some time!

  • @TheWhmaxwell
    @TheWhmaxwell 3 года назад +1

    Good stuff guys, it's funny, I got to meet Klaus Janson a few years ago at Heroescon, I was supper excited, got him to sign the DC guide to inking... he was crusty as hell. LOL, mighta been a bad day but it made me smile. Anyway, I forgot about this series... now I have to go dig it out and read it again.

  • @whitheringstudios
    @whitheringstudios 3 года назад

    Barry Windsor-Smith reprints that cover in one of the issues of Opus but adds red lipstick to Batman. There’s a similar pinup of Marv from Sin City with lipstick and mascara. Good stuff.

  • @shaneberryhill5800
    @shaneberryhill5800 3 года назад

    You said it best re: the meta Gaiman/ story with the wrestling analogy...it was a "loving" dismissal of Batman...all his stories being the same basic formula...just like in wrestling. They literally "go through the motions" and gave the audience what they came for, then go backstage and drop the charade...just as is done in wrestling

  • @lourahkneeri0229
    @lourahkneeri0229 Год назад

    I have to get the tpb before finishing this episode! Another Banger.

  • @duanehicks6962
    @duanehicks6962 2 года назад

    Great video! DC was pretty amazing or at least interesting in the 90s with many of their prestige projects. Kingdom Come, some Elseworlds projects, Bizarro Comics/World (which you guys should check out; features indie creators doing humour superhero strips), Batman B&W, and even Paradox Press with the Factoid Press line (The Big Book of Freaks, Weirdos, Conspiracies, etc. (which again featured a mix of mainstream and indie artists doing non-fiction strips).

  • @kevinmorris7224
    @kevinmorris7224 Год назад

    The boys the, kayfabe couple, should do the other 4 trades' worth if issues! Good stuff!

  • @RobSnell
    @RobSnell Год назад

    Hey! Where did y'all say the Bruce Timm techniques were covered? The TPB collection? Love these videos

  • @pjbrown4736
    @pjbrown4736 3 года назад

    I used to have these. Kinda want to read them again now.

  • @blindboy118
    @blindboy118 3 года назад

    Re: Gianni's style, reminds me of Alcala over Buscema's Savage Sword of Conan. Beautiful stuff

  • @Oddernod
    @Oddernod 3 года назад

    Would love to see this revived every 5 years.

  • @willagnes8376
    @willagnes8376 3 года назад +1

    Have you guys picked up a book from Thames and Hudson called Anime Architecture?
    You guys would dig it for sure, definitely microscope material.

  • @LsElite4210
    @LsElite4210 3 года назад +1

    There relaunching this and hopefully it’ll be good but we’ll see

  • @paulseidler1644
    @paulseidler1644 3 года назад

    The omnibus for this is great

  • @ES_Glenn
    @ES_Glenn 2 года назад

    Holy Shit I never heard of this Otomo Batman story!!!!!

  • @maskedmarvel7869
    @maskedmarvel7869 2 года назад

    The Wagner panel at 47:46 is based off of the black and white film Nosferatu ( maybe) lol

  • @seandunne82
    @seandunne82 3 года назад

    The frozen hand thing happened, think it was the westies did something similar

  • @savage75_
    @savage75_ 3 года назад

    I dig the Black and White series

  • @Kingcomics2021
    @Kingcomics2021 3 года назад +1

    Ratman (Moebius)

  • @71degrees
    @71degrees 2 года назад

    The new book.... is it volume 5? Or 6? We are finding confusion when we research

  • @oldmandavid7944
    @oldmandavid7944 3 года назад

    excellent video

  • @Oni_no_Hanzo_Twitch
    @Oni_no_Hanzo_Twitch 3 года назад

    Please cover Volume 2!

  • @manusigfried2603
    @manusigfried2603 3 года назад

    Man.. You shoul do Batman Broken Ciity by Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso. The series that had the unfortunate luck of been the one after Hush. It's a great history with amazing art that looks like black and white, even whit colour. But, after Hush, nobody gives two fucks about Broken City

  • @rickrudge9349
    @rickrudge9349 3 года назад

    Incredible!!!!

  • @elpadrino1128
    @elpadrino1128 3 года назад

    19:00 - 20:25 same last panels?

  • @spiderphil
    @spiderphil Год назад

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Eduardo-zp1os
    @Eduardo-zp1os 3 года назад

    * great experiment

  • @CasaBlack5
    @CasaBlack5 Год назад

    ur loco