Pop Flash: “NAVI Weren’t Even Tested!” PGL CSGO Major Review
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Pop Flash: “Nothing Was Stopping S1mple!” PGL Major Stockholm Review. The first CSGO Major for two years has been and gone, as we witnessed the coronation of s1mple as the true GOAT of Counter-Strike.
But as Auguste ‘Semmler’ Massonat and Duncan ‘Thorin’ Shields discuss, s1mple wasn’t the only NAVI player to pop off, as electronic, Boombl4, B1T and Perfecto all played their part in a piece of CSGO history - despite the best efforts of NiKo & G2 Esports.
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MAJOR GRAND FINAL! - NaVi vs G2 - PGL Major Stockholm 2021 - HIGHLIGHTS | CSGO • Video
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TALENT:
Auguste 'Semmler' Massonat
Duncan 'Thorin' Shields
EDITOR:
Amy Dixon 
Игры
Navi were in a class of their own at Cologne on lan. Clear best at pro league, winning the grand slam and then this major was a dominant performance. They played so well as a team and then the individual performances were nuts. The 3 people everyone doubted of b1t perfecto and boom, all showed up. Electronic was a rock on lan. And s1mple showed why he deserved the major with an mvp performance
Don’t forget Boombl4
electronic played so well.. he creates so much space & so cold under pressure
@@Jon-cw8bb I loved how electronic was kinda quiet the entire tournament until the final where he showed why he is considered a top 3 rifler in the world
They seemed stronger at cologne even if they lost maps ngl. I think now navi will be much more dominant when the pressure from winning the tournaments for the first time goes away.
@@lukaslillestl-brandlistuen7269 it's hilarious that a quiet performance is still top 6 in the tournament in groups lmao
Semmler's right. I was one of those fans that kinda took a break from watching cs cause it was all online but I got hooked again after esl one cologne (sorry kinda weird to call it iem cologne xD).
During that break I kinda dipped into LoL and Valo esports but it just doesnt compare to csgo
Welcome back, brother :)
Valo honestly rly disappointing as an esport so far. It's missing so much of the cs appeal, despite being mechanically similar. Wish valve would hurry up and bring out the next gen engine so that I can delete it
When everything first went online I checked right out because I could bring myself to care. Later I got the itch and watched online tournaments for a couple months but lost interest again. With LAN back I think CS can hold my interest long term again.
@@hambo6713 the top valorant players are basically csgo rejects, the operators look generic as hell with 0 personality or charm, the gun sounds are disgusting, the color palette is dull and depressing, the overall watching experience is boring
Welcome back brother and yes LAN CS is by far the best esports of all time. Not even close.
Yesss The first podcast back I was waiting for anything from thorin
Still waiting for RLewis and him to rip some people new assholes
The major was absolutely great. I just hated the background music during the desk segments with a passion. The fucking snare that would just occasionally drone into your ear while you were listening to the talent speak was like a thick fat fly that always buzzes into your ear, only you can't get rid of it....
Just like the ESL Mykonos 2017 music, it was absolutely awful 😂😂
Yeah PGL had absolutely horrible production
i miss the eleauge dududududududududu
Semmler was spot on. I am a new cs fan. Since the online era. Love cs fan for life now!
Watched Semmler's stream in the morning then this video came out later in the same day. Awesome.
I was waiting for thorin lessss go
1:22 yes
I started playing CS GO right before the pandemic. I follow so many hours of pro matches and play as much as possible! I wish I would've had the means to play CS a few years ago... DAMN!
I think Sem is spot on regarding his first point. I am one of those dude's. Didn't watch a single shred of CS in the online area (I did keep up, sort of, with BTN to get a feel of what was happening in the scene) but I watched most of the PGL major and had a goddamn blast. What a great tournament. Edit: Also I must say, both of you (Thorin and Semmler) killed it. You did your part in making this an awesome event, thank you both!
Great show host and guest!
The first match of CS I ever watched was ESL PL S13 finale map 5. It was just on twitch and I watched it and I was hooked immediately.
This channel is my favorite source of CS content on youtube! Hope to see more content now that the major is over 💪
G2 really impressed me, especially Niko who carried his team to the finals
True G2 lost to the t2 and 3 teams but all of sudden in major Niko turned his god mode on but in the end players like amanek and nexa were overwhelmed and couldn't put up a fight.
I want kenny to be back on the roster. Fight for another major before he retired from csgo
@@edmarbundoc4998 yeah same here
This was a great major. Hope I get to see more awesome competitions like this one
The chemistry between thorin and semmler is so great on this talk shows , hope they do more
I agree with semmlers take on the viewer record. I'm not necessarily only interested in LANs but all the online tournaments pretty much just blurred together. With the LAN environment there's always something notable that happens where the crowd goes crazy and I can remember exactly what tournament it was.
me and all my group of 4 or 5 mates that follow havent watched at all barely for 2 years all watched the finals. long live CS
Love these two together.
Love this show!
these top players like Niko and Zywoo need to team up at this point... if this Navi team stays hungry they wont lose against these current rosters.
Oml NiKo Zywoo Ropz
@@ShadowWasntHere8433 no ropz should go to faze
Just want to say I love that semmler host a podcast, hope this continues
Ill admit when cs went online i kinda dipped out. But as soon as LAN was back. Im back
THORIN
Nuke GF game against G2 Electronic just says: go play your game guys, i take care of Niko. Ffs this guys is BEAST
When did he say that
Absolutely agree. Nuke Outside is electronic's playground
@@johncarlonijaga6949 he called me before the second map
@@muratsarsenov2008 gago bataa
Semmler: Hi Thorin
Thorin: The problem is...
As an old viewer this is correct. Although I did watch the Grand Slam.
Online CS was good for us who are new to it. I'm one of those people who started watching during quarantine.
I was one of these new cs fans that started during online
I'd advise you to go watch some old classic lan matches. The whole environment with arenas packed with fans during epic matches are just something else. I'm yet to see something better from any other eSport. Maybe the old classic LoL and Starcraft LCK finals could rival that, but even then...
To this day I keep getting caught off guard by just how good of a voiceover voice Semmler has. He really is such a smooth and pleasant presenter.
Good show
Nobody talks about the following play:
Round 17 (g2 anti-eco) - Amanek doesn't swing to trade Niko (who correctly jumped around the corner to bait for him) against Boombl4 in secret, and instead die to King Boom giving up a double kill to the CZ. Navi go on to win the round 2v3, instead of having to pull off the less likely 2v4.
If G2 converts that round, they would be up 13-5 before Navi's first gun round.
Forget Niko's whiff, THIS round (and misplay by Amanek) lost G2 the Nuke map.
I think because its the first major in 2 years, the hype was overflowing. This is a lesson to learn i believe, Valve should just make 1 major every year like the UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE to make it more prestigious
They beat Gambit, Zywoo then NiKo. Damn.
cheers
HuNter "fuck that heroic guy" Kovac
Is it a good idea to replace jackz with zywoo (if there is no problem with the transfer)? Imagen Niko and Zywoo be on the same team.
Why Jackz? Zywoo is an awper so why not replace their current awper Amanek?
I don't think it would work. NiKo needs space to perform. Only time NiKo was able to play well with other superstars in his team was when he played with Karrigan.
@@wolf_9626 because they need a support player. Jackz is inconsistent, so get rid of him and move zywoo to awp and amanek to support.
Niko-lurk
Hunter-rifle
Zywoo - awp
Nexa - igl
Amanek-support
@@shak9558 and amanek is not inconsistent? I would kick ama and then move on when jackz is not performing in this team then go replays him with a player who has the same role and that’s it
@@kaibum8261 amannek was the better support/player when he wasnt awping 🤷♀️
1:10:59 NEVER rile up huNter- 🧐
idk why you shit so much on mouz, literally the main problem they have is that their AWPer is garbage compared to any other team, they are pretty much playing 4v5 with an economy deficit
yeah ropz might be thinking about himself but that doesn't stop the rest of the team, they can play around that if they know what's happening
Yeah acor is the worst awper in current roster, jackinho was too but fnatic made the right call early. Dunno why mouz is carrying acor.
Even kennys will be a better call for them as he is experienced as well it will be good support for dexter.
why does the channel logo say "PF"?
Pop flash
One point that could have contributed to the huge jump in viewership was how many new viewers valorant has brought into the tac FPS genre. I never watched or cared about CSGO, but just from knowing more about the scene because of all the NA CS ex pros and learning about their history it got me interested enough to tune into some games here and there and all the games from the quarters onwards.
1:19:13 Now this is actually amazing comparison, good point!
I greatly enjoyed the major, in part due to these two gentlemen. Thank you. NaVi showed us all how weak the current top-10 is. They'd usually have at least 3 teams around that could keep up. Astralis, Liquid, Vitality, Faze, EG, Ence... This tournament, only G2 got near a map win -- and then didn't. Nobody could keep up. When they were put on the back foot, NaVi just fragged their way out of a tight spot every time. That shouldn't be possible. NaVi can be fragile, but when they have people like B1T constantly getting one kill too many, it doesn't matter if the opponents can't take advantage.
@@4tCa4mzUPqRZZo Two years ago.
Heroic also got close to pulling a map from Navi. One of those games where scoreline didn’t tell the full story but probably one of the best maps of the major.
@@cally8934 i think Heroic did deliver a great fight to Navi, but it was still a pretty comfortable win in the end. I believe scoreline reflects it perfectly since second half Heroic were not able to do a sht. Same with how Navi-G2 game went on ancien5
Regarding the viewer record, I myself know a handful of people irl who don't play cs but watched the grand final for the entertainment. So my guess is there were lots of casual fans tuning in.
I haven't played CS since cs:s, but always watch the tier 1 tournaments
I love rpk.
Just too much fragging power from Navi, no team could handle it and s1mple wasn’t even going supernova all the time. It’s like a semi-super team with s1mple electronic and bit, perfecto can frag out as well.
I think that g2 with a competent awper may have had a better chance, specifically to upgrade their defence on the CT side because in this match, 3 players from navi could just dry peek and clear the site.
I wonder how this team would do against prime summer 2019 liquid. Considering both were known for their exceptional firepower. I think navi would have the edge simply from the s1mple x factor. But I do think their firepowers are about even
I was just day dreaming, what if G2 get zywoo to replace jackz. Not only they have a awper, it will also be a great firepower upgrade for G2.
@@muxinwang7771 not in a million years are vitality giving up zywoo. Did you hear the news that vitality benched shox kyojin and their coach to bring in zonic dupreeh and magisk?
@@trocoplaytv1254 yeah this will be a monstrous team !
@@trocoplaytv1254 that would be a pretty interesting match, as liquid used to almost always win Navi in 2019, well you could say Navi wasn’t having a good year overall. But I think that this Navi does not have holes as the 2019 Navi had, they have 2 super strong rifles +. Simple and then perfecto who is super solid and can also frag out.
liquid had godlike twistzz at that time, this guy was going nuclear every match.
I guess we will never know.
Navi best Vitality, Gambit, G2, but there's one thing they couldn't beat. Production.
jame (major finalist) is such a low impact massive baiter that he ended the major the only player on his team with a positive k/d but also the lowest rated .97 meanwhile yekindar (lan rookie) 1k/d 1.09 rating
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Wasn't at TI 2.95 million or something like that?
I didnt follow cs until online
I came over from Valorant to watch simple and niko. Was a great entertaining game. Plus the gambit one was good too
Thorin saved s1mple and k0nfig what a legend
Kinda hated it that Thorin was at the Major cause there wasn't any fire content but then again, his banter and style on the desk was so good too so it's give and take.
Hoping that he's gonna back on the grind now.
imagine the final would have been Navi vs Furia .... viewr numbers would have been absolutely rediculous
they were tested on nuke mista thurin
TH OMEGALUL RIN
Drink a shot whenever Thorin say: "The problem is ..." As a league fan, the PGL Major is such a hype event. Will keep a look out in the future!!
Can you talk about where all commentators ganged up and prevented the new casters from getting into semis and finals
thats a btn topic
If by new casters you mean bardolph and do then they are some of the oldest casters in the game
lmao they weren't in semis in the first place, watch richard lewis for more info
??? wuh
@@Timurkani it was moses and sado to cast semis, but sado got stuck in germany, hr couldn't make it to sweden. then all this caster drama happened
I feel like the chemistry between Semmler and Duncan isn't great. Semmler is a bit too quiet. Richard would be much better to have in a podcast
How can you say they wherent even tested when they where literally 1 deagle shot away from losing their own pick?
a) With all the insane clutches nowadays, there was no gurantee that G2 would have won that round. B1t could have still won.
b) “Losing their own pick” doesn’t qualify as much of a test when they made a huge comeback and were most likely going to win the 3rd map anyway.
c) Navi won ALL their maps rather dominantly throughout the major, and even won Ancient (G2’s pick) with a significant gap. Regardless of how close you think G2 was, Navi STILL won. It doesn’t matter if it was 1 deagle headshot away, 1hp away, or 1sec in defuse away. They won convincingly and were nowhere close to any threat of losing a Best-of-Match, so they weren’t tested.
Only team in cs history to win a major without dropping a map. They 2-0 every team they was against so was pretty dominate
To be fair, Navi was the only team that seemed serious about the major. Don't get me wrong, they are a great team. But the others have been faffing around. Astralis with God know how many roster changes. Vitality with Kyojin, G2 with no primary awper are three big teams with really stupid ideas to be even deemed "professional" orgs. The "try hards" (And I don't mean it with a negative connotation) like Heroic and Gambit made really deep runs in the tournament. I hope others get serious about CS soon. I want to see Boom's calling under pressure.
If you actually think they are not serious, then you are an i*iot. Sorry to say it like that.
You want to see him under pressure??? A fucking 16,000 person crowd isn’t pressure? What the fuck is wrong with you 😂
@@ryanroche6169 don't forget about being down 14-7 in the grandfinals.....
@@ryanroche6169 well to be fair I think by under pressure he means yaknow losing a map haha. But I get what you mean
@@luca7675 serious is really poor wording, but he is right about the majority of top teams not having solid rosters they're gonna keep without shuffling a couple players , and that they kept these players simply because the major and not wanting to lose rmr points from swapping out players
im a simple man, I see threnin, I dislike + unsubscribe.