Simucube 2 Pro vs. Ultimate - DRIVING TESTS - Is the Ultimate worth DOUBLE?
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- The Simucube 2 Ultimate costs more than double that of the Simucube 2 Pro, so it's time to see exactly how the two compare in terms of the driving experience, and if the Ultimate is worth the extra!
In the next video we'll compare the Simucube 2 Pro against the Fanatec DD2, Then move on to our comparisons between the Simcube 2 Sport, Pro and Fanatec DD1.
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Simucube 2 with Cube Controls wheel and Heusinkveld pedals are just " Fantastic " !! , i came from the other famous brand and will never go back for sure , software who never bug's , just happiness ;)
This video and the next ones really are long awaited comparisons. Thank you for your work!
Great video Will. As always. Waiting patiently for HRS to send word my SC2 Pro has landed. Can't wait👌
Such great detail in your videos. Awesome man keep up the great work!
I watched too many reviews.... ended up buying one. And love the Pro!
As someone who is waiting for black Friday and to step up to a DD wheel these videos are priceless! I'm still leaning more towards fanatec as I have all the other periferals (pedals, shifter and handbrake) and coming from a T300 wheel base I think it will be plenty strong enough for me!
Don't count on black Friday deals for DD wheels. The demand is so high that there is no need for any deals.
@@pyrates2000 You never know! I'd kick myself for not waiting another 2 months 😂
Astounding videos. 10/10. Very in depth without straying away from the initial subject. I am not sure how much experience you or my fellow viewers have with the Dirt Road side of iRacing, but I am hoping to understand how the Simucube Pro 2 works with the Pro Trucks. Any feedback/comments would be greatly appreciated!
Oof don’t think this turned out to be how the ultimate owners were hoping it would 😅. Great vid I’m sure a lot of us were interested to know and you delivered once again👍
Any Ultimate owner I've ever asked has told me "Get the Pro, theres no difference and if there is any, it's not worth the extra cost". 10+ of them.
@@VRSimulationStation i have ultimate and i agree 100%
I have both and i see no difference.
Thanks for the info guys. I've been teetering between the two, and was about to spring for the Ultimate, but have decided to go back with the Pro.
I have both at the moment, spent allot of time in Sebring (IRacing) and the biggest difference for me is that with Ultimate I can feel slighly better the weight transfer, the tortion of the car and specially the feeling of the rear. I agree that the PRO is already an AWESOME experience, but if money is not a problem, Ultimate is there to please you even a bit more :)
😂😂
@MAX__Apex so whats so funny ?
Great comparison! Man I want one so bad!
Finally a new brand! Love the content! Thanks for making it. From Michigan
A new brand?
@@boostedmedia i new brand to me at least. i feel like everything has been thurstmaster.
Great info Will, really nice work on this series, lots of work to get it done :)
I cant wait to build my new sim rig, im saving up for the pc first.
I just got my pc so I'm saving for a t300 rs
That's how one makes a test. Barry should be proud of you :)
Barries biggest mistake is, that for some reason he’s afraid of comparing products to one another. We viewers desperately need these comparisons as a way to relate to the actual differences, pros and cons. I love Barries reviews, but he really needs to step up his game in this regard.
Love your videos! You have taught me soooo much about sim racing!!
Googles to look at the price difference...........Coughed and farted at the same time.
😂😂😂😂
Nice vid. Doubting between pro and ultimate is over for me. Will go for the pro and buy a nice wheel to it and still have some money left!
Kinda was waiting on this video because I went simucube pro and was hoping there wasn’t to much differents because I was really thinking about cancelling and getting the ultimate but I think the pro will be perfect 👌
Can’t wait for my pro to arrive next week pumped
The higher power levels are massively unrealistic. Maybe the Nm max Nm setting is similiar to real-life but the way in which it's delivered is massively different. The sim-wheel is way too stiff, snappy, accelerative, and has way too much constant force especially when it comes to SAT. It also feels like it's literally being controlled/moved rather than simply reacting to forces acting upon it like a real-life steering system does. I'm a proud owner of the original Large Mige OSW --> software-simulated Simcube 1 --> true Simucube 1 --> Simucube 2 Pro but there are many inherent flaws with the fundamental FFB technology which all wheels/games use. These wheels have so much more potential but the fundamental FFB technology is limiting them and we're trying to compensate with filters (which definitely do help in some ways - like the slew-rate which is a godsend for realism - but they also can have their drawbacks too). There needs to be a revolution in fundamental FFB technology & design rather than the system still used today which dates back to the 1990s and was never meant for high powered wheels like DD wheels, not even close.
It depends on the wheelbase of course but yes that’s very true. Particularly when the damper and reconstruction filters is turned down/off.
Thank you for your video saying useful to me
Great advice well-spoken.
Another great video Will. Hey dud you ever get around to your in depth review of your HE Ultimates?
Not yet. Waiting to gain some experience with other similar products so I have a reference point to compare to. Should be happening in the next few months.
I thought you would of compared the Simucube 2 - Sport to the other Simucube 2 wheels before bring the DD1 and DD2 in mix. I think it would make more sense but, it's your channel . I hope you are going to compare all 3 to each other since many of us had asked you to do so. Thanks
I’ve been doing back to back tests with all 5 units for weeks now. All combinations will be covered.
hi Will, is there a reason why you run iracing ffb as "strenght" value instead of the usual - and suggested - way for dd which is Nm force?
also, you didn't mention what difference does the ultimate filters make, the ones that are just available on the ultimate and not the other sc2 wheels.
I dont mean to be so off topic but does someone know a method to get back into an instagram account?
I stupidly forgot the login password. I would love any help you can give me!
@Ezequiel Briggs instablaster ;)
@Cyrus Thatcher thanks so much for your reply. I found the site on google and im in the hacking process atm.
Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later when my account password hopefully is recovered.
@Cyrus Thatcher It did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
Thanks so much, you saved my account !
@Ezequiel Briggs no problem :)
Hey will great video! Definitely helped me confirm about the simucube 2. Just wondering if you are going to include the simagic into the mix against the dd1?
I’ve already reviewed the M10 and discussed it in my DD1/2 comparison as well.
Meme magic is real
@@boostedmedia I'll go look up the comparison video must have missed that one.
Cheers
im trying to simulate driving without a power steering pump.. in parking lots.. should i go ultimate or pro
I love you vids. But ama skipp this one. I dont want to regret getting the pro!;)
I think you should watch the video then. I just bought the pro.
Are there any good Simucube profiles for the new Forza Motorsport yet? I’m still very new to sim racing; Just returned my first DD wheel, a Fanatec GT DD Pro, after the shaft’s usb connection kept disconnecting.. so I’ll have only had 2 days on a DD when my Simucube Pro and Tahko wheel arrives tomorrow.
Hi,
I just wanted to say I love your content but I think one way that would make it more interesting for us would to maybe put a camera so we can see your pedals. Once again just a recommendation and keep up the good content.
All my driving videos have a pedal cam. They have done since the very start.
Boosted Media ok sorry this is the first video I have seen of yours in a while and just thought that the cameras would be the same in every video not just the driving ones.
I only include it in racing videos because it’s not really relevant elsewhere and distracts from the point of the video.
Boosted Media yep makes sense
Appreciate you brother 🥰
Great video mate. The Ultimate is hard to justify, but it's nicer aesthetically, so compact! Do Simicube require an adaptor if using a Fanatec Formula V2 wheel?
Yes, you’ll need to make two mods, first is to buy a USB conversion kit for the wheel and second replace the Fanatec QR with a 50 or 70mm QR adapter
Hi from France Will ! Can you share your TD and ingames settings for each games you test ? I ve watched the video where you explain all the TD settings and i woud like to have a base to begin. Thx. Keep on the good work !
Best base to start with is Simucube’s presets built I to the software :)
@@boostedmedia yes, but i have problems with ingame settings. I have my simucube pro since a couple days ;) Do you plan to make a video based on ingame settings ? I copied your settings for iracing and i find them perfect. AC and AMS 2 i can't find good ingame settings yet. I have to watch your TD setting video again ;P
Should do some rFactor2 laps on Bridgehampton or Nordschlieffe.
What makes the simicube better than the fanatec? Like what's the difference and is it a big difference?
Well I think I that reaffirms what base I’ll target then, but having just got pedals and needing a PC of my own first means it’ll have to wait
Thanks for the great vid! My Simucube Pro 2 that I ordered back in March finally turned up yesterday. It seems great but with iRacing I get massive FFB when braking (to the point that it shakes my whole rig), it's really odd. In the FR2.0 it's basically unusable unless you turn the FFB strength way down to the point it's way too low. Any ideas? I had the same thing with my G27 and hoped it would go away with the Simucube...
Second question, on one of your last videos you had the strength turned up and also the static force reduction so you could have more detail but less force for turning but it looks like you have the static force reduction turned all the way down for iRacing... curious why this is?
My force feedback explained video in the description should help you. :)
Boosted Media thanks, I'll take a look at that one and see how I get on. I thought I had settings pretty much the same as yours and have tried various other settings without any luck...
@@davefellows Sounds like your brake discs were warped. Did you ever get them resurfaced or fit new ones to cure the braking shudder? Oh, sorry, wrong channel. Sim racing is so realistic these days! 😋
Simucube is currently throwing in a free Tahko-21 GT wheel with the purchase of an ultimate. I know you say there’s not much of a difference between the Pro and the Ultimate but would this generous deal lean you more towards purchasing the Ultimate?
I ended up with the pro because, well, the price, lol. But seeing how great the pro is, nowadays I regret it a little 🤣
Hey again, part 2 even better than part 1! It's really interesting that the lesser inertia bases got lesser slew rates... Completely opposite of simucube 1 small mige vs large mige (small one is "jumpy" and more reactive, large is slower and has "natural" damping).
Would it be possible to make a comparison between simucube 1 and simucube 2?
Can't wait to see the sport in action, For Science!
Now after using Simucube 2 Sport and Simucube 2 Pro in max slew rate and max torque, I find too much difference. If you do the testing in same newton meters with same slew rate then you feel zero difference. I think Will, u need to update this video with Part 2 because it is wrong to compare like this. You need to make them %100 in Truedrive and Maximum slew rate, then you need to decrease the ingame gain so that you can hold the wheel (strength/maxforce in iRacing). And I see so much of Static Force Reduction that you must not go up than %20 then it becomes so numb so you cannot feel any turning the car in-corner details. I believe that if you do test all of the bases in 12 Nm with same slew rate then all are same, but you need to do it like what I explained above and make the ingame gain differently so that you don't hurt yourself.
Bro when you crash are you taking your hands off of the wheel?
Other than the max torque the main point of difference between the 3 SC2 models is the torque slew rate adjustment but you turned it off in your test. Admittedly not much diff between the Ultimate (9.5Nm/ms) and Pro (8Nm/ms) but would be interested to see how much a difference this makes between the sport which I own and which only has a max torque slew rate adj of 4.8Nm/ms.
However the main purchasing conundrum with SC2 is not Pro v Ultimate it is Sport v Pro given the huge cost of the Ultimate and most people go for the Pro over sport purely because it only costs EUE150 more. I agree with you that the ultimate is more suited for a commercial enterprise which is probably why the warranty is 60months as opposed to 24 months. Great original content by the way, I was beginning to think that with your product reviews and taking apart the hardware you were becoming too much like the legend Barry Rowland.
I of course tinkered with the slew rate adjustment in my extended testing. As I said in the video, the slew rate of the ultimate can be adjusted to match that of the pro for a smoother feel. But I didn’t feel the additional response capability of the ultimate really added anything significant to the overall driving experience.
Thanks for your kind words. I think it’s important to still capture that raw first impression.
whats your opinion on brake stiffness? I picked up some BJ simracing pedals and they come very stiff from default, maybe 1-2 inch of travel with a 200kg loadcell.
Talked about this specifically here:
ruclips.net/video/UwgjEuaOYe8/видео.html
Can you put the perspective on something I know, have you driven a kart and how does the 25nm compare to kart driving? The only reason I use karting as a comparison is that's about the only thing I driven where my arms ache.
Yeah I’ve spent a bit of time in karts. If I had to guess I’d say they’re probably around 15-20nm but that’s just an estimate. Obviously depends on the track surface, camber, etc.
how many people buy this stuff, am i crazy thinking its worth it for a hobby?
Ayye nice video
12:47 aren't you running 2.08:1 strength here? :O
Don’t I feel like a dummy buying the ultimate....
i can't even handle my Logitech g pro racing wheel at 11 nm usually run at 6 nm MOZA R5 probably good enough for most people
why do your graphics look sooo poor Will? whats your pc spec?
He must not have a big graphics card as there is no eye candy in the stand just a basic look but, he is also running 3 monitors. I'm not sure what his FPS are. I run 3 32 144Hz monitors with a 2080TI and I turn it up as high as I can still running 120 FPS. I need more than a 2080TI because I'm not able to run with the best settings but, it looks much better than this.. 3080 series coming soon. LOL
Classic silverstone is a very plain track. I have graphics pretty much maxed out in iracing. However for testing I usually turn things down a bit just so I’m guaranteed to sustain 100FPS (marching the native refresh rate of my monitors).
I’m running a resolution of 10320x1440 and my system specs can be found here:
boostedmedia.net/technology/boosted-media-ultimate-gaming-pc-system-specs/
Boosted Media makes complete sense Will thank you for the response. Loving the content btw keep up the great work!
I bought the Ultimate, now sad :( lol
Lol! Nothing to be sad about. You own the best of the best :)
yup dd2 vs sc pro with the new firmwares
Wears a glove and says bumps don’t feel so sharp. What a noob move. Would u run your hand on your gf and say her skin is soft with gloves on. Such comedy.
Max and lando don’t use gloves but this guy knows better
Wait what are you even on about? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When you have no idea but decide to post anyway, lets start with he is using gloves with both tests, Max and Lando probably would use gloves when using a wheel that is designed to be used with gloves.
Lmao how did I miss this comment. 😂