Yes, The HOFer that got SNUBBED bc of those idiot, French fry eating writers that CANT EVEN PLAY BASEBALL! Sheffield is a HOFer and one of the greatest homerun hitters! 500 club
@@randallcarver6950 I don't think it matters how you get to that ready-set spot, so long as you get there. Yordan Alvarez, for example, starts there. He doesn't cradle rock the bat into position. If you can do it and stay on-time that's great but you don't have to.
These men also had remarkable strength and hand eye coordination most of us don’t have. Babe and Lou are swinging sledgehammers in these clips, no one is using a bat anywhere near as heavy in the modern game. You can swing as hard and as fast as you want, but you’d better hit the ball on the barrel if you want it to go anywhere.
I’ve seen various b/w and color versions of the same vid. This is the first side-by-side. Good idea. Thx. There is a color version of the vid where Babe pulls badly and stings his hand. He coolly shakes it off. Lou and Babe share the same bat. Lou is very connected in the swing shown. Hips are square. Left elbow is anchored to the clockwork of the lower body: hips and shoulders turn together like the hinge of a door followed by well timed release of cascading levers in the elbow and wrist. Lou’s bat path is level. Babe pulls in the swing shown. His hands and shoulders end up slightly ahead. Take a look at the bat path: it’s upward.
I love the comparison and the similarities between the two men's swings. I am always fascinated to see how many great hitters over the years, including these two of course, plus Williams, Aaron, Mays, etc. drop their hands as the one of the first motions of their swing. Players do not do that today. I was watching Bernie Carbo's home run in Game 6 of the 1975 World Series, and noticed that he did it too. Carbo was not an all-time great like those others, but my point in mentioning it is that the hand-drop was still being used as a timing or loading device even in the 1970s. I wonder when it went out of favor?
When the swing starts it goes like this, hands high, back elbow straight, stride with the front leg, drive with the back leg, rotate the hips, pull the hands through, follow through. Nothing has changed since day one for the great hitters. Look at any swing once the swing starts, they all look more or less the same. Check out Ty Cobb's swing it looks just like this once he starts the swing.
The striking thing to me is how Ruth holds his legs so close together before he starts his swing. Most hitters, including Gehrig, have their legs positioned somewhat apart from each other. Ruth's legs are held so close together, it appears that the inside portion of each knee might be touching. It obviously worked for him, so it would be foolish to say that it was wrong, but it was unusual.
Little known fact about the Yankees players during that time and how they got their uniform numbers. the numbers were issued by the equipment manager according the the place they batted in the lineup, Ruth hit third (3), Gehrig fourth (4). Matt you should compare Ruth to Bonds, Mantle to Mays (batting right of course), Aaron to A-Rod. you could do Mantle Vs. Murray from both sides of the plate two of the greatest switch hitters of all time this could be a whole series for your channel. you can also do base stealing Henderson Vs. Brock Vs. Wills..........
I think that Ruth's swing was more fluid, natural, athletic, and relaxed. Ruth made it look easy. Like I could do it. Gehrig looked like he worked endlessly on his swing with hard work on the mechanics of the time paying off.
For those who want to know more about Ruth, check out Bill Jenkinson's book. Don't let the title chase you off, the stupid publisher forced it on Jenkinson.
Please do a breakdown on the swing of Keith Hernandez I think it would be fun to hear your insights on his swing especially since the Mets are going to retire his number this year
I honestly think Ken Griffey Jr had probably the prettiest swing I have ever seen..... It was just so effortless..... Jeff Bagwell was another one he had the real wide stance he also just had a pretty swing
What stuckout to me the most is they aren't wearing batting helmets. I forgot that helmets weren't mandatory until many years later. "Brushing someone off the plate" had a different meaning back then.
Babe Ruth the best hitter ever, he had the perfectly designed body to create this catapult swing...long, lanky legs and arms and mutant wide torso. I think his unusually big head, eye spacing, and flat nose contributed to superhuman depth-perception and hand eye coordination. You notice this mutant body design in photos of him with other people...even teammates. It was also his mental side making him the best, he lived to be a showman especially to please children and I think that motivation and mentality kept him centered, balanced. One other strength to me and it's in the 2nd best hitter ever Hank Aaron is the lock of the front side, basically the plant of the front foot and coordinated explosiveness of hip up to shoulder. I'm guessing both had exceptional coordination and strength in the hip to shoulder movements.
Ruth steps with his back foot as his swing comes around. Looks like his back foot is actually off the ground when he makes contact. Gehrig had a pretty swing.
While I agree there are a lot more hard throwers in today’s game, better breaking stuff is a lot more debatable. Remember baseball skins were somewhat looser and the balls were a lot easier to grip and many times were compromised with scuffs, foreign substances etc... I remember seeing Camilo Pascual who was a very good pitcher back in his day but not a superstar by any means and the only curve ball that I saw be that consistently good in the more modern day is probably Nolan Ryan’s. Jacob DeGrom’s slider is the best I’ve ever seen so I’m not saying that there isn’t a case to be made that the harder and tighter you can make a breaking ball the tougher it is to hit but that’s not the only consideration is my point. The thing Matt is great about pointing out is that what makes a player a great hitter was true in 1922 and it’s still true in 2022. Those great hitters would make adjustments to the differences during the different eras and still rake.
It doesn't look like Lou is swinging slightly up through the zone. The swing starts at shoulder level and finishes at his right hip... Almost like he's chopping down at the ball or at best a level swing. George's swing does look slightly up
What strikes me about their swings is how they both cut through the zone exactly the same, with a quick strong level swing, no uppercut or cheating towards a specific pitch, just flat and level all the way through. Can you imagine someone trying to hit with Ruths stance in the majors now? They wouldnt make it out of rookie ball trying that ass to the mound load up Ruth has.
The thing that always sticks out to me about these older hitters is the followthrough always seems so much lower than it is with today's players. Both of their hands stay well below shoulder level even completing the follow through
Garrig has to step wider To accomplish the whip That Babe Ruth gets in a more compact Swing. Garrig is more muscular, Babe more elegant. The Babe and Joe Jackson had carbon copy swings But 2 different physical statures
1190 homers between these mugs. Only Hank Aaron and Eddie Mathews come close to that total. Also Everyone threw Straight pitches in the 20's and 30's A few guys threw breakers and Knucklers but these men just flat out raked.
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How sweet I did a report on Lou back in elementary school. Very interesting video.
Love the swing breakdowns.
Request: Gary Sheffield
Good one! I’d love to see that
Yes, The HOFer that got SNUBBED bc of those idiot, French fry eating writers that CANT EVEN PLAY BASEBALL! Sheffield is a HOFer and one of the greatest homerun hitters! 500 club
Barry Bonds basically did the same thing before he swung. These legends knew something that has eluded so many. Great breakdown.
Funny. I thought the same thing. However not until steroid Barry. Skinny Barry just takes hands straight back without dropping first
@@randallcarver6950 I don't think it matters how you get to that ready-set spot, so long as you get there. Yordan Alvarez, for example, starts there. He doesn't cradle rock the bat into position. If you can do it and stay on-time that's great but you don't have to.
These men also had remarkable strength and hand eye coordination most of us don’t have. Babe and Lou are swinging sledgehammers in these clips, no one is using a bat anywhere near as heavy in the modern game. You can swing as hard and as fast as you want, but you’d better hit the ball on the barrel if you want it to go anywhere.
I’ve seen various b/w and color versions of the same vid. This is the first side-by-side. Good idea. Thx.
There is a color version of the vid where Babe pulls badly and stings his hand. He coolly shakes it off. Lou and Babe share the same bat.
Lou is very connected in the swing shown. Hips are square. Left elbow is anchored to the clockwork of the lower body: hips and shoulders turn together like the hinge of a door followed by well timed release of cascading levers in the elbow and wrist. Lou’s bat path is level.
Babe pulls in the swing shown. His hands and shoulders end up slightly ahead. Take a look at the bat path: it’s upward.
Good work Matt, thank you for both comparison
Damn Matt this might be your best breakdown yet!! Love it man!! Thanks for the great content!
Most devastating 1-2 punch baseball history
How does the higher strike zone in those days cause differences for success in those days as opposed to today?
I love the comparison and the similarities between the two men's swings. I am always fascinated to see how many great hitters over the years, including these two of course, plus Williams, Aaron, Mays, etc. drop their hands as the one of the first motions of their swing. Players do not do that today. I was watching Bernie Carbo's home run in Game 6 of the 1975 World Series, and noticed that he did it too. Carbo was not an all-time great like those others, but my point in mentioning it is that the hand-drop was still being used as a timing or loading device even in the 1970s. I wonder when it went out of favor?
When the swing starts it goes like this, hands high, back elbow straight, stride with the front leg, drive with the back leg, rotate the hips, pull the hands through, follow through. Nothing has changed since day one for the great hitters. Look at any swing once the swing starts, they all look more or less the same. Check out Ty Cobb's swing it looks just like this once he starts the swing.
Take a look at Dick Allen's swing. He did the same thing with that 40 ounce bat he carried to the plate.
amazing! Hank Greenberg and Ted Williams!
The striking thing to me is how Ruth holds his legs so close together before he starts his swing. Most hitters, including Gehrig, have their legs positioned somewhat apart from each other. Ruth's legs are held so close together, it appears that the inside portion of each knee might be touching. It obviously worked for him, so it would be foolish to say that it was wrong, but it was unusual.
I found that striking too.He really uncoils violently through the zone. Complete follow through also
Little known fact about the Yankees players during that time and how they got their uniform numbers. the numbers were issued by the equipment manager according the the place they batted in the lineup, Ruth hit third (3), Gehrig fourth (4).
Matt you should compare Ruth to Bonds, Mantle to Mays (batting right of course), Aaron to A-Rod. you could do Mantle Vs. Murray from both sides of the plate two of the greatest switch hitters of all time this could be a whole series for your channel. you can also do base stealing Henderson Vs. Brock Vs. Wills..........
This is awesome stuff
I think that Ruth's swing was more fluid, natural, athletic, and relaxed. Ruth made it look easy. Like I could do it. Gehrig looked like he worked endlessly on his swing with hard work on the mechanics of the time paying off.
For those who want to know more about Ruth, check out Bill Jenkinson's book. Don't let the title chase you off, the stupid publisher forced it on Jenkinson.
Please do a breakdown on the swing of Keith Hernandez I think it would be fun to hear your insights on his swing especially since the Mets are going to retire his number this year
Have you done anything on history of bat weight over time?
I don't know too much about baseball but it looks like Gherig has a more modern approach for batting?
Too cool 😎
Man Lou Gehrig was one very strong man the size of his back is amazing!
mickey mantle swing looks like he has a longer stride left handed. but has has the back foot movement where he turns and drags his back foot
I honestly think Ken Griffey Jr had probably the prettiest swing I have ever seen..... It was just so effortless..... Jeff Bagwell was another one he had the real wide stance he also just had a pretty swing
What stuckout to me the most is they aren't wearing batting helmets. I forgot that helmets weren't mandatory until many years later. "Brushing someone off the plate" had a different meaning back then.
This is batting practice.
Hi Matt I was wondering if all mlb players have to join the players union
Your right Matt. A few adjustments and he’d Max Sherzer’s worst enemy.
The "flamethrowers" from those days would be 40 velo today.
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And you'd flunk out of grammar school in 1924.
Babe Ruth the best hitter ever, he had the perfectly designed body to create this catapult swing...long, lanky legs and arms and mutant wide torso. I think his unusually big head, eye spacing, and flat nose contributed to superhuman depth-perception and hand eye coordination. You notice this mutant body design in photos of him with other people...even teammates. It was also his mental side making him the best, he lived to be a showman especially to please children and I think that motivation and mentality kept him centered, balanced. One other strength to me and it's in the 2nd best hitter ever Hank Aaron is the lock of the front side, basically the plant of the front foot and coordinated explosiveness of hip up to shoulder. I'm guessing both had exceptional coordination and strength in the hip to shoulder movements.
Seems like Ruth had a slightly more exaggerated uncoiling and follow through. So much fun to see side by side
Stupid question, in your opinion, what is the easiest and hardest position to make it to the show?
Ruth steps with his back foot as his swing comes around. Looks like his back foot is actually off the ground when he makes contact. Gehrig had a pretty swing.
Ruth starts out with his back facing the pitcher, Gehrig is more square with the bag, so Ruth gets a lot more hip rotation than Gehrig
While I agree there are a lot more hard throwers in today’s game, better breaking stuff is a lot more debatable. Remember baseball skins were somewhat looser and the balls were a lot easier to grip and many times were compromised with scuffs, foreign substances etc... I remember seeing Camilo Pascual who was a very good pitcher back in his day but not a superstar by any means and the only curve ball that I saw be that consistently good in the more modern day is probably Nolan Ryan’s. Jacob DeGrom’s slider is the best I’ve ever seen so I’m not saying that there isn’t a case to be made that the harder and tighter you can make a breaking ball the tougher it is to hit but that’s not the only consideration is my point. The thing Matt is great about pointing out is that what makes a player a great hitter was true in 1922 and it’s still true in 2022. Those great hitters would make adjustments to the differences during the different eras and still rake.
It doesn't look like Lou is swinging slightly up through the zone. The swing starts at shoulder level and finishes at his right hip... Almost like he's chopping down at the ball or at best a level swing. George's swing does look slightly up
Gehrig steps more towards first base I think, but they really end up in the same place.
Maybe it's the angle of the video; but Gehrig seemed to have had a longer stride.
PROPERS TO THE WAGGLE 🙏
What strikes me about their swings is how they both cut through the zone exactly the same, with a quick strong level swing, no uppercut or cheating towards a specific pitch, just flat and level all the way through. Can you imagine someone trying to hit with Ruths stance in the majors now? They wouldnt make it out of rookie ball trying that ass to the mound load up Ruth has.
The thing that always sticks out to me about these older hitters is the followthrough always seems so much lower than it is with today's players. Both of their hands stay well below shoulder level even completing the follow through
It’s because they’re pushing the barrel
Lou had the sweeter swing 🐐
Did ANYONE ever hit down on the ball?
If we could only hear their thoughts about the cheating / drugs in the game today?
They swing back
Credit the source of this material.
Gehrig had a slightly more level swing, how the heck did he hit so many home runs?
He was hella strong.
Bill Dickey said "He hits line drives between outfielders the way I hit line drives between infielders."
Garrig has to step wider To accomplish the whip That Babe Ruth gets in a more compact Swing. Garrig is more muscular, Babe more elegant. The Babe and Joe Jackson had carbon copy swings But 2 different physical statures
Ruth=jay Bruce
Gehrig=Pete Alonso
Babe with the slow pitch softball swing
Oh, would slow pitch him? He’d hit a pissrod at your head.
@JMD
You with the slow shortbus take.
@@gregdiiamond3899 why would I if his swing is like that? Also, easy on the comments about Matt’s daughter, it’s very weird to say the least.
@@TheBatugan77 you’d know what I mean if you got out of the house some time. Guess you’ve never seen a softball game
1190 homers between these mugs. Only Hank Aaron and Eddie Mathews come close to that total. Also Everyone threw Straight pitches in the 20's and 30's A few guys threw breakers and Knucklers but these men just flat out raked.
Wrong.
Babe over rotates
The more rotation the better. Cannot over rotate
Can we admit that their swings were bad? It’s okay, right?
Ruth’s swing was so ugly