I don't run or have a crew but I agree with that. If guys fight legit have no problem fighting back and having fun with it. Things are so toxic in RDR 2 online it is crazy.
I liked what you had to say about griefing. I for one love to instigate little vendettas in free roam, and it's easy to keep it sportsmanlike IMO. I will vent a bit and say that explosive ammo and dual sawn offs are unsportsmanlike. (Personnel preference) cheating is a wright off. if i don't find explosive ammo fun i can't imagine how bored i would get if i used cheats.
Damn, man! I haven't agreed with so many things said in one video for a long time. You are completely correct, although I play offline at times because I am farming or with non-pvp friends, I understand your point and you are right on that.
i hope rockstar does something,came across a rank 900+ cheater. his movement showed he was a skilled/long time player but he was for sure using god mode
If you wanna beat these people than you have to not support them and bring attention to it. I still like this video but that seems to be to reality of it. I love your boldness.
I've noticed lately, since last time we got new missions, the tidal wave of new players and Smurf accounts, that cheating is becoming increasingly common. Also posses jumping low ranks even though they are in defensive and most common is what I call the GTA griefers. The GTA griefers are the ones who attack you only with dynobows, explosives and fire rounds. They hide, run, hide and when out of their baby ammo they leave and claim they are better than you. Smh. I also get into a lot of fights when I'm defensive while collecting or whatever and they kill or shoot me so I shoot back and stay in defensive against a posse while wiping the floor with them and then they have the nerve to get mad that I'm in defensive and they can't shoot me smh. If you attack someone while they are defensive you have no right to complain when they kick your ass. If you are going to attack them then you should be decent at free aim before doing it at the very least. I know they are from GTA as well because they get mad and say things like, be a man and stop using passive. Passive is GTA, defensive is rdo. So that's a dead giveaway. GTA players come into rdo thinking they can play it like GTA but it's not the same, two totally different games. But anyways, I'm off topic now and ranting lol. So yeah, cheaters, get a life, play fair and you'll see how much fun the game actually is, win or lose. Thanks for sharing the vid. See you all on the frontier!
Hardcore modes were always the most fun to me. It's how the freemode should be imo. But, hey, it's Rockstar so PvP is gonna be awful and toxic. You're never gonna have a good time unless you're the one being an ass.
I have played this game from day one and here is what i have to say about it. IT IS A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully i said that loud enough. For those in the back..... IT IS A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am almost 40 years old and have gamed all my life. I can tell you from my vast experience in online gaming if people really think RDR2 online is toxic, they never would have survived the days of the first Modern Warfare, Black ops, Black ops 2, Halo, GTA or any of the other online games that have been around 10+ years, before console companies started babying players and controlling what could be said online or in text chat. People and especially gamers have become soft little babies that get butt hurt at anything and everything. Bullying has been around for a long time and in my day we dealt with bullies up close and personal but now society thinks its best to sit around and sing love songs and hold hands to deal with our problems. All that has done is create several generations of cry babies that won't let anything roll off their backs and move on and its quite pathetic. Now we have YT and other social media platforms that allow people to air all their crap with little to now affect other than showing just how pathetic you really are and how easy it is to get your undies all in a twist. Now, here is the solution to all of the above mentioned commentary......... IT IS A GAME!!!!!!! Play the game, get jumped in RDR2 either fight back, parlay, or swap lobbies but for the love of GOD stop taking it so damn personal and stop posting on social media about how everyone is so mean and how everyone cheats just to win. For goodness sakes has none ever played monopoly with their siblings or family members and accused someone of cheating before? Cheating has been around long before video games and people learned how not to be little babies about it and we need to learn not to be little babies about it now. Just play the damn game and grow up.
Let me guess...you. cheat. And now you're butthurt because somebody said nasty things about cheaters. And you just can't keep from letting people know how much you HATE hearing them complain about cheaters. I think your undies might have a knot in them, friend. LOL
@@miabrantley205 That fact that you read my comment (and i am assuming you read the whole thing) and that was your response to it tells me a lot about you. Your attempt at being a keyboard warrior is duly noted. However, you simply came across as a huge "KAREN" that plays rdr2 online all the time and really sucks at PVP, so in your eyes everyone is a cheater. Which is why you assumed, just like a KAREN would, that I cheat and i'm tired of people calling it out. I can prove I don't cheat....... I don't cheat because...... I DON'T CARE ABOUT WINNING OR LOSING IN AN ONLINE GAME, BECAUSE IT IS AN ONLINE GAME THAT IS NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AT ALL......and that was the whole point of my comment in the first place. I am almost 40, I have a full time job, one young son, a wife and gaming is for enjoyment not life altering surgery. The main reason I even play RDR2 is because my son and I love playing together in the evening after I get home from work, it gives us something to do together during the week on school nights. But hey, thanks for your "Karen" response. Now shut up and go make me a sandwich. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is an issue way back from GTA. Rock stars know about this &, to be honest with you Cronus is not the issue 🤷🏽♂️ The issue is the off radar & god mode & booting people 🤷🏽♂️. I don't have this problem with the call of duty 🤷🏽♂️
just tried your current build and it seems to be completely outmatched compared to the max damage build when you’re sniping because there’s only a one shot bonus (in mid range however max defence build demolishes repeaters and one handed weapons compared to how weak max damage becomes)
SnS becomes more about defensive positioning in sniper fights, I would tend to agree that Focus fire is better at sniper range, I just like the headshot immunity in repeater range. Focus players really need Sawed offs to compete at close range with SnS, and short of a D bow they really cant compete at mid range.
@@condvit9348 i agree the moment an sns player fights against a repeater they need 8 headshots with express to even get killed it’s unbeatable in mid range
A great message but it won't change anything, i was fighting off radar freeze laggers yesterday & a few of them I've fought before yet even tho i bested them multiple times in events they always spout racist stuff in game chat, they will always cheat to bully others & crews will use that as an excuse to cheat themselves, i wish we could change all that but some people just don't care & if Rdo is completely dead then they'll just go back to gta so they can continue to bully in that game too smh 😔
I play on defensive mode because I want to be left alone to play the game. Why do I get grieved? I don’t bother people. I parlay then report them. I’ve been told reporting them is a waste of time. Nobody cares.
I cant argue that, I still think there are lines that shouldn't be crossed, even if it is an entitled opinion to say as such. No one is without there opinions on the way things should be.
Damm bro real shit dawg I love red dead online it's way better then GTA me and my boys been in so many wars it's just crazy especially them 2 or 3 hr wars I know what I signed up for the moment I started fucking with other people 😂 this the best game ever for rockstar I think someone fucked with my router doe because I ain't been able to play online for 4 weeks now
a bit strange a slow and stready player want everyone to follow these rules bruh how you expect me to tell a grown man how to play a game that he played for this was of thinking ain’t gone solve nun
If its a game of your life, as you say, just buy xbox and play. There are no cheaters on console and community there is huge. On PC there will always be cheaters in RDO and GTA. I play 4k resolution 50" TV and everyone has same equal gaming setup.
There are definitely cheater's on console, depends what community youre tied to, im on either console, the biggest issue is booting, so much of it going on in rdr its pointless playing, if you got to boot ppl offline thats an L in itself, obviously a sore loser who can't except being outplayed, dude's out here toying with that nonsense like their lives depend on it, bad enough they need 2 or more extra posse's to help settle the score against 1 or 2 posse's, no lifers
@@lxopenfirexl7007 there are no cheaters or bots on console, that is not technicaly possible. Console has own OS and nobody making cheats on OS other than windows. And this will be true for any game. The only thing that is possible on console is a macro. But there are not many games you can get advantage of macro using.
@@jekabro7435 there definitely is, are you not familiar with cronus? Or other strike pack's? Player's abuse it all the time, like i said, depending on the community you run with, if you aint part of the pvp side to rdr you wouldn't know, you'll definitely see it first hand, to say there aren't cheater's on console is laughable
@@lxopenfirexl7007 Have you tried cronus? Buy it and try. Have you tried mouse input on xbox? With 100+ms input lag and stick emulation? Man you are talking about things you not understand. There are no real cheaters on xbox. I mean there is no aimbot, wallhax etc. Macro and emulation is a crutch for bad player who will never become good. Forget about cronos its a waste of money. And as told earlier cronus=macro it is not a cheat technicaly and barely gives advantage.
@@matthewv7934 I'm new player and haven't any trouble with pvp against 400+ players. Some are skilled, some are less, but I can't say that I lose because somebody abuse smth. With good build I usually win 90+% of 1v1 encounters.
I met so many cool and awesome people on this game it's just too badass I miss rdo so much
I don't run or have a crew but I agree with that. If guys fight legit have no problem fighting back and having fun with it. Things are so toxic in RDR 2 online it is crazy.
I liked what you had to say about griefing.
I for one love to instigate little vendettas in free roam, and it's easy to keep it sportsmanlike IMO.
I will vent a bit and say that explosive ammo and dual sawn offs are unsportsmanlike. (Personnel preference)
cheating is a wright off. if i don't find explosive ammo fun i can't imagine how bored i would get if i used cheats.
Damn, man! I haven't agreed with so many things said in one video for a long time. You are completely correct, although I play offline at times because I am farming or with non-pvp friends, I understand your point and you are right on that.
i hope rockstar does something,came across a rank 900+ cheater. his movement showed he was a skilled/long time player but he was for sure using god mode
If you wanna beat these people than you have to not support them and bring attention to it. I still like this video but that seems to be to reality of it. I love your boldness.
I've noticed lately, since last time we got new missions, the tidal wave of new players and Smurf accounts, that cheating is becoming increasingly common. Also posses jumping low ranks even though they are in defensive and most common is what I call the GTA griefers. The GTA griefers are the ones who attack you only with dynobows, explosives and fire rounds. They hide, run, hide and when out of their baby ammo they leave and claim they are better than you. Smh. I also get into a lot of fights when I'm defensive while collecting or whatever and they kill or shoot me so I shoot back and stay in defensive against a posse while wiping the floor with them and then they have the nerve to get mad that I'm in defensive and they can't shoot me smh. If you attack someone while they are defensive you have no right to complain when they kick your ass. If you are going to attack them then you should be decent at free aim before doing it at the very least. I know they are from GTA as well because they get mad and say things like, be a man and stop using passive. Passive is GTA, defensive is rdo. So that's a dead giveaway. GTA players come into rdo thinking they can play it like GTA but it's not the same, two totally different games. But anyways, I'm off topic now and ranting lol. So yeah, cheaters, get a life, play fair and you'll see how much fun the game actually is, win or lose. Thanks for sharing the vid. See you all on the frontier!
do collecting in a legendary bounty
One day when the community isn’t gross I shall make my return.
And Dad never came home with the milk..
If there were free aim lobbies on console, we won't need defensive mode anymore but that'll never happen.
I wish..
Ayo I suck at PVP so I just get humbled 24/7 I use private lobby through MTU to run wagons and stuff to get my money up :o
Everyone uses lag switch now it's sad 😔
Hardcore modes were always the most fun to me. It's how the freemode should be imo.
But, hey, it's Rockstar so PvP is gonna be awful and toxic. You're never gonna have a good time unless you're the one being an ass.
I have played this game from day one and here is what i have to say about it. IT IS A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hopefully i said that loud enough. For those in the back..... IT IS A GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am almost 40 years old and have gamed all my life. I can tell you from my vast experience in online gaming if people really think RDR2 online is toxic, they never would have survived the days of the first Modern Warfare, Black ops, Black ops 2, Halo, GTA or any of the other online games that have been around 10+ years, before console companies started babying players and controlling what could be said online or in text chat. People and especially gamers have become soft little babies that get butt hurt at anything and everything. Bullying has been around for a long time and in my day we dealt with bullies up close and personal but now society thinks its best to sit around and sing love songs and hold hands to deal with our problems. All that has done is create several generations of cry babies that won't let anything roll off their backs and move on and its quite pathetic. Now we have YT and other social media platforms that allow people to air all their crap with little to now affect other than showing just how pathetic you really are and how easy it is to get your undies all in a twist.
Now, here is the solution to all of the above mentioned commentary......... IT IS A GAME!!!!!!! Play the game, get jumped in RDR2 either fight back, parlay, or swap lobbies but for the love of GOD stop taking it so damn personal and stop posting on social media about how everyone is so mean and how everyone cheats just to win. For goodness sakes has none ever played monopoly with their siblings or family members and accused someone of cheating before? Cheating has been around long before video games and people learned how not to be little babies about it and we need to learn not to be little babies about it now. Just play the damn game and grow up.
Let me guess...you. cheat. And now you're butthurt because somebody said nasty things about cheaters. And you just can't keep from letting people know how much you HATE hearing them complain about cheaters.
I think your undies might have a knot in them, friend. LOL
@@miabrantley205 That fact that you read my comment (and i am assuming you read the whole thing) and that was your response to it tells me a lot about you. Your attempt at being a keyboard warrior is duly noted. However, you simply came across as a huge "KAREN" that plays rdr2 online all the time and really sucks at PVP, so in your eyes everyone is a cheater. Which is why you assumed, just like a KAREN would, that I cheat and i'm tired of people calling it out. I can prove I don't cheat....... I don't cheat because...... I DON'T CARE ABOUT WINNING OR LOSING IN AN ONLINE GAME, BECAUSE IT IS AN ONLINE GAME THAT IS NOT MEANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AT ALL......and that was the whole point of my comment in the first place. I am almost 40, I have a full time job, one young son, a wife and gaming is for enjoyment not life altering surgery. The main reason I even play RDR2 is because my son and I love playing together in the evening after I get home from work, it gives us something to do together during the week on school nights. But hey, thanks for your "Karen" response. Now shut up and go make me a sandwich. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
boomer
Ayyye yo no one would survive the mw2 2009 lobbies haha
bro you’re so old
This is an issue way back from GTA. Rock stars know about this &, to be honest with you Cronus is not the issue 🤷🏽♂️
The issue is the off radar & god mode & booting people 🤷🏽♂️. I don't have this problem with the call of duty 🤷🏽♂️
just tried your current build and it seems to be completely outmatched compared to the max damage build when you’re sniping because there’s only a one shot bonus (in mid range however max defence build demolishes repeaters and one handed weapons compared to how weak max damage becomes)
SnS becomes more about defensive positioning in sniper fights, I would tend to agree that Focus fire is better at sniper range, I just like the headshot immunity in repeater range. Focus players really need Sawed offs to compete at close range with SnS, and short of a D bow they really cant compete at mid range.
And thanks for trying one of my builds.
@@condvit9348 i agree the moment an sns player fights against a repeater they need 8 headshots with express to even get killed it’s unbeatable in mid range
I don't pvp at all because of cheaters.
Well said.
A great message but it won't change anything, i was fighting off radar freeze laggers yesterday & a few of them I've fought before yet even tho i bested them multiple times in events they always spout racist stuff in game chat, they will always cheat to bully others & crews will use that as an excuse to cheat themselves, i wish we could change all that but some people just don't care & if Rdo is completely dead then they'll just go back to gta so they can continue to bully in that game too smh 😔
Bro you aint stopping them arabs
People love abusing that defensive mode
I play on defensive mode because I want to be left alone to play the game. Why do I get grieved? I don’t bother people. I parlay then report them. I’ve been told reporting them is a waste of time. Nobody cares.
Pretty ironic to watch this video after the entitlement video
I cant argue that, I still think there are lines that shouldn't be crossed, even if it is an entitled opinion to say as such. No one is without there opinions on the way things should be.
I agree bro
👏 ❤
The real west never had off radar I play like the real west
Damm bro real shit dawg I love red dead online it's way better then GTA me and my boys been in so many wars it's just crazy especially them 2 or 3 hr wars I know what I signed up for the moment I started fucking with other people 😂 this the best game ever for rockstar I think someone fucked with my router doe because I ain't been able to play online for 4 weeks now
a bit strange a slow and stready player want everyone to follow these rules bruh how you expect me to tell a grown man how to play a game that he played for this was of thinking ain’t gone solve nun
👏👏👏👏👏👏
If its a game of your life, as you say, just buy xbox and play. There are no cheaters on console and community there is huge. On PC there will always be cheaters in RDO and GTA. I play 4k resolution 50" TV and everyone has same equal gaming setup.
There are definitely cheater's on console, depends what community youre tied to, im on either console, the biggest issue is booting, so much of it going on in rdr its pointless playing, if you got to boot ppl offline thats an L in itself, obviously a sore loser who can't except being outplayed, dude's out here toying with that nonsense like their lives depend on it, bad enough they need 2 or more extra posse's to help settle the score against 1 or 2 posse's, no lifers
@@lxopenfirexl7007 there are no cheaters or bots on console, that is not technicaly possible. Console has own OS and nobody making cheats on OS other than windows. And this will be true for any game. The only thing that is possible on console is a macro. But there are not many games you can get advantage of macro using.
@@jekabro7435 there definitely is, are you not familiar with cronus? Or other strike pack's? Player's abuse it all the time, like i said, depending on the community you run with, if you aint part of the pvp side to rdr you wouldn't know, you'll definitely see it first hand, to say there aren't cheater's on console is laughable
@@lxopenfirexl7007 Have you tried cronus? Buy it and try. Have you tried mouse input on xbox? With 100+ms input lag and stick emulation? Man you are talking about things you not understand. There are no real cheaters on xbox. I mean there is no aimbot, wallhax etc. Macro and emulation is a crutch for bad player who will never become good. Forget about cronos its a waste of money. And as told earlier cronus=macro it is not a cheat technicaly and barely gives advantage.
@@matthewv7934 I'm new player and haven't any trouble with pvp against 400+ players. Some are skilled, some are less, but I can't say that I lose because somebody abuse smth. With good build I usually win 90+% of 1v1 encounters.
Is true
Kiddie script hacking are just for kids bad at pvp. Sadly
why dont you freeaim like a man
AGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Plus your cheating too
How so?
@@wintrydolphin36 exactly, how's he cheating
Good message brother but sadly this guys are to scared to loose there no wining there is only having fun! 🦾