It was great to hear Jaman talk about Trooper. Neeme was the first poker vlogger to blow up, but Trooper was the OG poker vlogger that gave birth to poker vlogs (and one of Neeme's inspirations) . I feel like he doesn't get the recognition he deserves. Great documentary!!!!!!
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I can't find the web page, the link doesn't work, at least not for me.. Maybe I'm too late to the party? 😔 (I see that the comment is a week old at the time I write this). Anyways, I watched the documentary. Congrats 🥳 Well done! Really well made and interesting! I like your ambitions.
As someone whos mastered and faultered in multiple arenas, poker has been one that for the last 20 years has humbled me the most and helped expand my outer and self awareness. Thank you for everything poker community. Thanks for the content above the felt.
Just when I wanted to retire from my poker dreams, I watch this..........great documentary about the game I love and the people that play it. Well done.
I used to play three or four nights a week. Made a living playing tournaments during the week and then cash games on the weekends only. That's fine and dandy while being a single bachelor. But as soon as I started a family and got married I soon realized the 9 to five work is much more responsible and secure. I haven't gambled in years. Tho I do miss it.
This was above & beyond my expectations. Absolutely amazing all the way around. I hope this gets the views and exposure it deserves. LFG ETHAN!!!!!!!!!!
Great content, thanks for putting this together! Also - Soooo well deserved for Rampage to win this. Had already seen the VLOG, but still - Awesome to see the “behind the scenes” as well!
Awesome documentary. I’m happy to see how poker has evolved. I gained interest in 2004 during the moneymaker effect and then seeing Greg Raymers giant chip stack at the final table before winning 5 million dollars. I was hooked. I only got to play my first live wsop tournament in 2022. It was the $600 deep stack. The only one in my budget 😅 and lasted about 7 hours. It is still my dream to one day play the main event. I feel like I could cash and that would be a huge event for me.
Excellent documentary and a much needed look behind the scenes of high stakes professional poker. Fantastic insight and great production. Very enjoyable to watch. Looking forward to more.
Never knew Berkey was a lefty. I was a pitcher back in high school as well. I was throwing hard and had a solid curveball, and batted .370 as a pitcher. It never worked out for me either. Hopefully I can follow in Berkeys footsteps. Great docu, I’ve seen this many times while I’m out doing my gig work. Thanks Tom and the above the felt for keeping me inspired as I continue to progress in poker. And congrats to Rampage! Hopefully I succeed enough to work with the team one day ;) Cheers.
Tom seems like a really down to earth intelligent human! It would be amazing to play some poker with him. What an inspiring documentary. Thank you for taking the time to create and share this with all of us.
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This is brilliant. I particularly love the section at the end where the important distinction between the casino and playing poker is drawn. Yes, it's a gamble at times. But it's a game of strategic thinking, emotional intelligence and skill. And if you possess those qualities you can be really good at the game. I play in Leeds in the UK, where the game is no where near as big as it is in the States, hopefully one day!
"Dreamers" that's a good name which implies newcomers youngsters, even CM is a newcomer to me... ESPN had picked up poker and took it to another level by the time Chris Moneymaker won the tournament.. ESPN accelerated popularity of Poker... The World Series of Poker and World Poker Tour has been the greatest instrument in promoting poker... Great poker commentary from Mike Sexton and Vince Van Patten. Other great players, Doyle and others too many to list, took poker into the stratosphere... Chris Moneymaker has looked beaten down and tired for a number of years.. It's bad that he left his wife for poker, that didn't seem like a good decision.. I have enjoyed poker from the early 90's , I'd like to play more often..
Absolutely amazing!!! The part about my boy Ethan winning the $25k and the faith in himself that he had along with Berkeys wisdom about how life changing that is and the path for success he's setup for almost made me cry. That's the poker dream right there! The other part I loved was about the brilliant minds and the good that's coming out of the poker community. Keep up the AMAZING work Above the Felt!!! ❤❤❤ P.S. Definitely would love to see us do everything we can to be more inclusive of women at the table.
Really a sweet dream that we carry in our hearts. Many thanks to the makers for this five-star documentary (compared to the rest, only the passage about Heads-Up is a bit boring since they mention only each other but no one else in the industry), but otherwise flawless with versatile characters and plenty of room for identification. Moneymaker as the centerpiece of this lovingly crafted work is also a brilliant choice. It's a real shame that the WPT and WSOP aren't available for free on RUclips. That would really help realize the dream of growing numbers, among other things. By the way, I wonder if I'm the only one who thinks of Barney Rubble every time he sees Chris Moneymaker 😊❤️✌️
É incrível escutar como cada pessoa chegou ao poker...eu devo essa paixão quando descobri o livro da Konnikova enquanto assistia um vídeo do autor do livro you2 sobre salto quântico, e ele citava ela nesse vídeo e o que aconteceu em 1 ano quando ela fez toda a imersão na indústria do poker com Erik Seidel. De repente, lá estou eu, começando a buscar apps para jogar poker, sendo que tive 1 ou 2 contatos com poker durante a faculdade e nada mais. Realmente, é algo que as pessoas de fora não compreendem de início, um choque imediato quando você fala que joga poker e pretende se profissionalizar o que é meu caso. Obrigado por produzirem esse material!!
I was playing in a thunder valley poker series, NorCal jack stack with jamie right after covid restrictions were lifted.3 tables left I was knockout out in 23 she was still alive. I’m curious because I left right after I busted if she made the final table?
Absolutely 100 %...the reason I watch, follow, dream. I thank you! Inspiration to feed on, boom 💥. Nailed it. 10 out of 10 marones. That's Italian for OMG.
Tom jus wanna let you know if your ever looking for a new face for the team I’m your man. You would make a 20 year dream come true. I love playing poker more than anyone. Jus can’t do it as much as I want bc I have a family and don’t have the backing to jus go for it. But one day I will. Bc I’m not gonna give up. Great video. Very inspiring
Platt, if you want more women in the game we need the opportunity to grow with the understanding that we're coming from behind. That said, we believe we're competitors, now we need industry leaders to believe in us.
Great production and cast! It is definitely nice to hear from well respected people in the industry in a more intimate capacity. I unfortunately felt that this documentary underemphasizes the risk of poker and overemphasizes/glorifies the rewards. If the goal is to expand the integrity of the game & to include more diverse groups of people, how is this accomplished by displaying such overt romanticism of poker? I think it’d be more interesting to know the struggles that these individuals faced and how they chose to overcome them so that newer people are not blindsided by the resilience needed to be successful.
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Let’s get it
Paappppiiiii glad you’ll be watching!
Joey, tell your mods to be nicer , especially that angry white dude one . Forgot his name
@@abovethefelt Nick Vitucci the scammer that swindle millions of dollars from people in his real estate Seminars and Con-man of Poker
Cant believe tice didnt thank papi. 😢
It was great to hear Jaman talk about Trooper. Neeme was the first poker vlogger to blow up, but Trooper was the OG poker vlogger that gave birth to poker vlogs (and one of Neeme's inspirations) . I feel like he doesn't get the recognition he deserves. Great documentary!!!!!!
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Trooper is Awesome
This is a breath of fresh air! Poker is still alive. Thanks for continuing to move the game forward.
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Looks like moneymaker need some fresh air. Time has not treated his body well.
Good wholesome poker viewing right here.
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I can't find the web page, the link doesn't work, at least not for me.. Maybe I'm too late to the party? 😔 (I see that the comment is a week old at the time I write this).
Anyways, I watched the documentary. Congrats 🥳 Well done! Really well made and interesting! I like your ambitions.
We need 2023 WSOP Dreamers part 2. This was fun to see people backgrounds in poker! Killed it!!
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I can't get enough of, nor IS there enough of Poker Docs
We agree! This is a unique one for sure...see you tonight!
As someone whos mastered and faultered in multiple arenas, poker has been one that for the last 20 years has humbled me the most and helped expand my outer and self awareness. Thank you for everything poker community. Thanks for the content above the felt.
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One of the best documentaries I have seen. I like to understand the people beyond the game. This did it for me.
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And the dumbest idea to PLAY MUSIC WHILE THEY TALK! GEEZUS it’s annoying as hell
Jaman Burton says “bloggers bring people to poker.” lol The only people who watch poker vlogs are poker players. Lmao
@@playinragz8183is burton a snake charmer?
Just when I wanted to retire from my poker dreams, I watch this..........great documentary about the game I love and the people that play it. Well done.
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We loved the authenticity! Great job to the Above the Felt team for this production for poker.
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Glad to see the trooper get a shoutout. The real OG vlogger.
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Goosebumps during the Rampage portion. Love that kid.
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@Above the Felt whut he's a bookie and fake pimps the poker scene?
I used to play three or four nights a week. Made a living playing tournaments during the week and then cash games on the weekends only. That's fine and dandy while being a single bachelor. But as soon as I started a family and got married I soon realized the 9 to five work is much more responsible and secure. I haven't gambled in years. Tho I do miss it.
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is jeff platt a snake charmer?
Love that Jaman gave Trooper a shoutout! Great video
The OG!
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Yea dope giving props to the og
This felt like the good old WSOP episodes!
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Poker world needs more of this
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Hopefully there is going to be more content like this!! This was so good.
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This was above & beyond my expectations. Absolutely amazing all the way around. I hope this gets the views and exposure it deserves. LFG ETHAN!!!!!!!!!!
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i could watch so much more of this, hope more people are encouraged to learn the game
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THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING TO WATCH!!!
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Circling back to this. Super well made. That’s for the dope shit
Finally a documentary that gives the Trooper his flowers!
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It’s videos like this that make me wish there was a love button on YT
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Loved this. Everyone comes across very authentic. There’s hope for me yet!! 😂😂
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Thank you for putting this on. I'm really enjoying everything about it.
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Great content, thanks for putting this together! Also - Soooo well deserved for Rampage to win this. Had already seen the VLOG, but still - Awesome to see the “behind the scenes” as well!
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Awesome documentary. I’m happy to see how poker has evolved. I gained interest in 2004 during the moneymaker effect and then seeing Greg Raymers giant chip stack at the final table before winning 5 million dollars. I was hooked. I only got to play my first live wsop tournament in 2022. It was the $600 deep stack. The only one in my budget 😅 and lasted about 7 hours. It is still my dream to one day play the main event. I feel like I could cash and that would be a huge event for me.
Excellent documentary and a much needed look behind the scenes of high stakes professional poker. Fantastic insight and great production. Very enjoyable to watch. Looking forward to more.
This is a great doc. Very well done and produced. Love to see more content like this. Hoping to see you all at the series this year.
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Awesome documentary! We need more of these for our small community. Very well done!
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Never knew Berkey was a lefty. I was a pitcher back in high school as well. I was throwing hard and had a solid curveball, and batted .370 as a pitcher. It never worked out for me either. Hopefully I can follow in Berkeys footsteps. Great docu, I’ve seen this many times while I’m out doing my gig work. Thanks Tom and the above the felt for keeping me inspired as I continue to progress in poker. And congrats to Rampage! Hopefully I succeed enough to work with the team one day ;)
Cheers.
Tom seems like a really down to earth intelligent human! It would be amazing to play some poker with him. What an inspiring documentary. Thank you for taking the time to create and share this with all of us.
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A super cool view into the game that I have been playing for decades. Really well done !
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Awesome guys, thanks for putting this together.
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LOVE IT
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Can't wait love this idea and an updated doc
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Looking forward to this!
Us too! See you at the premiere!
Amazing documentary!!!! really shows the true side of modern poker
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Enjoyed it. I know it was an Above The Felt production, but wished it included others and wasn't just a promo for their stable
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So awesome! Amazing job with such a great cast of players.
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This was a awesome documentary!! Hope they continue to make content
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Loved this & hope you do more documentaries!
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This is brilliant. I particularly love the section at the end where the important distinction between the casino and playing poker is drawn. Yes, it's a gamble at times. But it's a game of strategic thinking, emotional intelligence and skill. And if you possess those qualities you can be really good at the game. I play in Leeds in the UK, where the game is no where near as big as it is in the States, hopefully one day!
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Great video
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what poker teaches me about life is how to deal with loss and that is more valuable then some people think
Well put together documentary. Makes me wanna go play today.
very cool to see content of this quality coming out; the people, production, and insight are all top notch. way to go 👌🏼
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Well done, Tom! Congratulations!👊🏻👊🏻
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I seriously love Jaman's energy
Yeah, that Jaman guy is the coolest!
Love seeing quality poker content. Kudos
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"Dreamers" that's a good name which implies newcomers youngsters, even CM is a newcomer to me...
ESPN had picked up poker and took it to another level by the time Chris Moneymaker won the tournament.. ESPN accelerated popularity of Poker... The World Series of Poker and World Poker Tour has been the greatest instrument in promoting poker...
Great poker commentary from Mike Sexton and Vince Van Patten. Other great players, Doyle and others too many to list, took poker into the stratosphere...
Chris Moneymaker has looked beaten down and tired for a number of years.. It's bad that he left his wife for poker, that didn't seem like a good decision..
I have enjoyed poker from the early 90's , I'd like to play more often..
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Thanks for this. As an industry person of 15 years it got me motivated even more to join growing the game!
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Absolutely amazing!!! The part about my boy Ethan winning the $25k and the faith in himself that he had along with Berkeys wisdom about how life changing that is and the path for success he's setup for almost made me cry. That's the poker dream right there! The other part I loved was about the brilliant minds and the good that's coming out of the poker community. Keep up the AMAZING work Above the Felt!!! ❤❤❤
P.S. Definitely would love to see us do everything we can to be more inclusive of women at the table.
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Really a sweet dream that we carry in our hearts. Many thanks to the makers for this five-star documentary (compared to the rest, only the passage about Heads-Up is a bit boring since they mention only each other but no one else in the industry), but otherwise flawless with versatile characters and plenty of room for identification. Moneymaker as the centerpiece of this lovingly crafted work is also a brilliant choice. It's a real shame that the WPT and WSOP aren't available for free on RUclips. That would really help realize the dream of growing numbers, among other things. By the way, I wonder if I'm the only one who thinks of Barney Rubble every time he sees Chris Moneymaker 😊❤️✌️
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Awesome documentary. We need some follow up on the journey.
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É incrível escutar como cada pessoa chegou ao poker...eu devo essa paixão quando descobri o livro da Konnikova enquanto assistia um vídeo do autor do livro you2 sobre salto quântico, e ele citava ela nesse vídeo e o que aconteceu em 1 ano quando ela fez toda a imersão na indústria do poker com Erik Seidel. De repente, lá estou eu, começando a buscar apps para jogar poker, sendo que tive 1 ou 2 contatos com poker durante a faculdade e nada mais. Realmente, é algo que as pessoas de fora não compreendem de início, um choque imediato quando você fala que joga poker e pretende se profissionalizar o que é meu caso. Obrigado por produzirem esse material!!
Berkey’s interview…really heartfelt, my fav part ✨
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This was a great watch time flew by great job on the production
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Amazing!
This was a really great and well made doco hope we see more from you
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Awesome, inspiring, anyone know what the hoodie is that rampage is wearing at 1:19:32 ?
Great cast, good people, inspiring stories. Really well done 👍
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so good man, 10/10 poker doc
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Best poker documentary 👏👏👏👏👏
Nice boys and girls ... 👍
Great job guys ! Loved the video and even my wife that doesn’t play really enjoyed it 😁👍
See you guys on the felt 😉
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Awesome Watch
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This is a very good documentary.
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This was great. Thanks!
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Great documentary!!!!!
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Nice job putting this video together.
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Poker is so back.
Let's gooooooooooo!!!
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Well done, all. Very well done!
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Looking forward to watching this ❤
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Great documentary 👏 👍 👌
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I was playing in a thunder valley poker series, NorCal jack stack with jamie right after covid restrictions were lifted.3 tables left I was knockout out in 23 she was still alive. I’m curious because I left right after I busted if she made the final table?
Moneymaker has a good sense of humor
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Great doc. See you all on the felt!
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@@abovethefelt I look forward to seeing you at the WSOP!
Absolutely 100 %...the reason I watch, follow, dream. I thank you!
Inspiration to feed on, boom 💥.
Nailed it. 10 out of 10 marones. That's Italian for OMG.
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Well done...thank you!
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Solid production.
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what song was that used for during the background of day 1?
Can't wait to watch
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Can't wait!
Us too, see you in chat!
Very well done. Enjoyed it!
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Thank you. Great content!
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How is Jeff Platt so good looking and good at poker, its not fair.
Is this my burner account? Too kind
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We should be able to give some videos more than one like!
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Tom jus wanna let you know if your ever looking for a new face for the team I’m your man. You would make a 20 year dream come true. I love playing poker more than anyone. Jus can’t do it as much as I want bc I have a family and don’t have the backing to jus go for it. But one day I will. Bc I’m not gonna give up. Great video. Very inspiring
Awesome. Thank you. ❤
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So good 🎉
Well done, thanks for this.
Platt, if you want more women in the game we need the opportunity to grow with the understanding that we're coming from behind.
That said, we believe we're competitors, now we need industry leaders to believe in us.
Completely understand and agree with this
MGM Springfield.....Rampage...can't wait
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Great production and cast! It is definitely nice to hear from well respected people in the industry in a more intimate capacity. I unfortunately felt that this documentary underemphasizes the risk of poker and overemphasizes/glorifies the rewards. If the goal is to expand the integrity of the game & to include more diverse groups of people, how is this accomplished by displaying such overt romanticism of poker? I think it’d be more interesting to know the struggles that these individuals faced and how they chose to overcome them so that newer people are not blindsided by the resilience needed to be successful.
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Resilience means nothing if you don't put in the work off the table!
Very well done!
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Loving it!
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35:02 Brad Owen sighting 🙈🙈🙈
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Dustin da closer really made out well here
Idk if it’s just me but the audio isn’t syncing with the video starting just before Rampage’s high roller tourney run 😢 other than that Doc is fire.
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