Estimating the temperature of a star

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @logician1234
    @logician1234 2 месяца назад +13

    Prof takes a break and then the first video he posts is calculating temperature of the star 💀

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +4

      I had to think of something impressive for my return!

  • @shrivatsa8604
    @shrivatsa8604 2 месяца назад +6

    Great to have you back, sir. I had previously worked with the same problem, which after solving yielded the same result. And then tried to solve it in a non-classical, relativistic way .my initial goal was to find the potential energy of the entire system using relativistic way calculating energy (Swartzchild interior solution) , which was complicated. Based on your expertise in this field, I believe working on relativistic physics in your upcoming videos will be very brilliant and intresting like this one.

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +5

      Thanks for your support. Solving this one relativistically certainly sounds complicated!

  • @notsodope834
    @notsodope834 2 месяца назад +1

    7:32 3/2kT term is definded as KE per gas molecule , here hydrogen is diatomic so M/2mH h2 molecules ( where mH= mass of hydro. atom)

    • @notsodope834
      @notsodope834 2 месяца назад +1

      This makes 3/4kT( M/mH)
      T= 4GMmH/5kR

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +2

      Hydrogen exists in monatomic form in a star because the temperature is so high. If it were diatomic, we'd have to use (5/2)kT instead of (3/2)kT as diatomic molecules have rotational kinetic energy as well as translational.

    • @notsodope834
      @notsodope834 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes, I did a mistake but why multiplied by 2 still can't get that

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +1

      The hydrogen atoms are ionised due to the high temperature, so each hydrogen atom contributes two separate particles, a proton and an electron.

  • @MissPiggyM976
    @MissPiggyM976 2 месяца назад

    Welcome back, many thanks!

  • @darwinvironomy3538
    @darwinvironomy3538 2 месяца назад +2

    can you do about geothermal model of the earth probably? using heat equation on steady state with a core that generates heat and a mantle. is it reasonable?

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад

      I suppose the complication is that you probably need to account for convection in the mantle!

    • @darwinvironomy3538
      @darwinvironomy3538 2 месяца назад

      @@DrBenYelverton i see!

  • @mohsenrezaei5965
    @mohsenrezaei5965 2 месяца назад +1

    brilliant! your work in this channel is priceless, thank you

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад

      Thanks for your kind words! Glad you are enjoying the videos.

  • @yahavhazut
    @yahavhazut 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video that shows the power of estimation theory!
    Thanks!

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +3

      Thank you - it's amazing how well simple models work sometimes!

  • @paxshild4924
    @paxshild4924 2 месяца назад +1

    Hey Dr. Ben, it's great to see you back! I really enjoyed your recent video on the temperature of a star, especially after such a lon break. Your content always brings out some of the most interesting problems in physics!
    I was thinking, as a follow-up to this thermodynamics topic, what if you did a video exploring how temperature changes over time for an object in a completely empty vacuum? Specifically, if we consider an object with a certain initial temperature in an ideal vacuum (with no surrounding objects), how does its temperature evolve over time as it radiates heat away? I've been trying to come up with a satisfying equation for this, but it seems like Newton's law of cooling might not fully apply in this scenario. I feel like this could be a really fascinating continuation of your recent video.
    Also, I wanted to say that I'm deeply sorry for your loss, and I admire your resilience in continuing to share such amazing content. Looking forward to more thought-provoking problems from you!

    • @umylten4142
      @umylten4142 2 месяца назад +1

      Just for fun (as almost all assumptions are incorrect), assume:
      - constant density r
      - constant specific heat capacity c
      - uniform temperature T(t)
      - black body radiation
      Then, thermal energy is (up to a constant) r•c•V•T(t) (where V is the volume) and radiated power is s•A•T(t)⁴ (where s is Stephan-Bolzmann constant and A is the area of the object).
      Equating the loss of thermal energy with the radiated power:
      r•c•V•(dT/dt) = -s•A•T⁴
      This is a simple differential equation which provides T(t) :^) If I didn't mess up, the result is
      T(t) = T(0)/[(1 + bt)^(1/3)]
      where b = 3•s•A•T(0)³/(r•c•V).

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +3

      Thanks for your kind words, I'm always happy to see your comments! I've just recorded another video today and hope to get it uploaded soon. Cooling of a black body is on my to-do list, this could of course become arbitrarily complicated but I was thinking of doing it using a simple model like the one proposed by the commenter above.

  • @Herogamergaming59
    @Herogamergaming59 2 месяца назад +2

    Sir after doing some analysis using the Stefan-Boltzmann law I found out that this model suggests that the intensity released by a star is proportional to the mass of the star raised to the power of 4 ! I find that quite interesting

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +2

      Apparently, that is actually a pretty good approximation for Sun-like stars! See e.g. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93luminosity_relation

  • @mxminecraft9410
    @mxminecraft9410 2 месяца назад +3

    Sir I have been doing a lot of physics problems some of them are very hard where can I share the problems with you?

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +1

      Feel free to email me at ben.yelverton@cantab.net!

    • @mxminecraft9410
      @mxminecraft9410 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DrBenYelverton ok

    • @mxminecraft9410
      @mxminecraft9410 2 месяца назад +3

      @@DrBenYelverton question sent

    • @DrBenYelverton
      @DrBenYelverton  2 месяца назад +1

      @@mxminecraft9410 Got it, looks interesting! I will have a go at solving it when I get the chance.

    • @mxminecraft9410
      @mxminecraft9410 2 месяца назад +3

      @@DrBenYelverton ok can you also upload a solution too?

  • @drscott1
    @drscott1 2 месяца назад +2

    👍🏼