Trade (or Labor) Unions Explained in One Minute: Definition/Meaning, History & Arguments For/Against
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- Should you join a trade union, or labor union as it is called in the United States? Well, let's just say that as this video makes clear, there are quite a few arguments in favor of being a trade/labor union member, despite there being arguments against as well.
But while the arguments in favor of joining trade unions seem to outweigh those against when it comes to the individual, how do things stand as far as society as a whole is concerned?
Do trade/labor union-related frustrations tend to build up over time? For example, do other workers end up considering trade union members spoiled... perhaps even at their expense? What about politicians, where do they stand when it comes to this topic?
As the video makes clear, trade/labor unions have had a somewhat "complex" history as of 1794 when it comes to the US and the present comes with its own set of challenges. By explaining what trade unions are all about, how things work and why you should care, the video helps you pick a proverbial side in an informed manner.
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You are wrong! "Labor" is NOT a substitute for "Trade" Unions. The skilled workers make more money.
The math of normal supply and demand has skilled workers shopping on the left side of that math chart. The skilled workers buy the product and services on the left side of the normal supply and demand math chart and the unskilled workers buy the product and services in the middle of the big X on the normal supply and demand math chart.
The left side of the normal supply and demand math chart is not limited to our crony capitalist shoppers. The predotory lenders utilizing a for-profit banking system. This would be griffin goods supply and demand math.
>too many priveledges
Ah yes, the priveledge of a lunch break, 8 hour shift, safety measures, and many other things
To be fair, I don't think there are many folks in 2020 and beyond who would consider those privileges (in developed nations, of course). For the most part, those who criticize unions tend to be afraid of the idea of allowing one entity or another to have too much control over their businesses
@@OneMinuteEconomics *ahem* screw bussiness before it screws you. join your union
Don't get me wrong, a lot of businesses are treating employees unethically. At the same time, I don't believe considering your employer the proverbial enemy is the way to go either, since you're kind of in this together, with it being in your best interest that the employer does well.
@@OneMinuteEconomics The employer does well when he makes a lot of profit. The more profit the better. Now how can he have a lot of profit.... keeping cost low and revenue high. Where can he cut costs? Wages! The Union is necessary in fact to counterbalance the employers power. While no the employer is not some "enemy" that needs to be fought he will never have your best interest in mind and therefore needs to be counterbalanced by collective bargaining, through f.e. a union.
TLDR: Businesses will always have their own profits at mind and wont care about you, therefore they will try to cut wages, benefits or other things that are good for you.
@@germangamingvideos6069 yea. Workers are pretty much expendable. The turnover rate is very high
Remember that if it wasn't for the Union we'd still have child labor, 12-15 hour work days, 6 day work weeks, and women wouldn't be eligible for work.
The good ol days ;(
I think there was a time and place for unions, but now a days things are very different. We have state labor laws and minimum wage. I don't think we need anything else, except the right to choose to take a job or not. My experience with a union has been worse than my experience without a union.
@@burtjulia0 Expect for the fact that major companies have monopolized most if not all sectors. Amazon treats there workers more like robots than actual human beings. The same could be said for most cooperations.
I mean-In a lot of places theres still a lot of child labor-the chocolate industry for example
LMAO yeah 2021 and if it weren't for the government protecting us from having our children work, and working us like the Chinese, and women would just sit back, because they can't do anything with out the government helping them. Yeah totally, we would be screwed if the government didn't help us. Thank you government! I'm so happy, I'm going to go wait in line at the DMV to show my appreciation.
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So what's the point of this if were already offered great benefits and comp pay I dont get this still ??
I cannot find info on Switching/Changing unions. We’re considering doing that. E.G. I turned in a Request Form to the manager & stated that I was taking a whole day off, vs a half day, bc I found out they count the half day as a Whole Occurrence. They got mad and responded with “that’s fine we’ll talk to your union steward about your tardies” to which I swiftly responded “AbSoLuTeLy!”. I went to our Union Representative who said they’re allowed to do that, it’s crappy, but allowed’ to which I said “That’s retaliation and illegal!” However they’re saying it’s not?!? This is one small example and we’re all getting responses like this.. the only reason we are with this union is because, it’s said, our last union was removed for corruption…. this is all just too much!! What the heck do I do (as an employee)?
It's really weird to consider unions to be the cause of tensions inside the compagny where unionisation is usualy born from a feeling off disrespect comming from the bosses. -.-
Maybe 100 years ago. For the largest part of the last century the line was already drawn, you have right to work states where unions haven't established power, and you have union states where you aren't allow to work without being in a union or having to give part of your paycheck to one. The vast majority of unions that exist today in the US have existed for more than 70 years. They are extremely influential power structures that control vast amounts of capital and are largely unregulated.
Have you ever been a boss that has a union in it? it freaking sucks. They(not all) wont follow procedures if they don't like it. they don't stay productive throughout the day. seriously, head banging environment. Only good thing is that Union workers are getting a fair livable wage because of their leverage.
back in the day it was important, today unions serve no purpose because Americans have better labor rights
Trade union translated to Italian means fascist. Your ideology is very stuck in the 1930's.
$7.50 minimum federal wage, shitty annual/maternity leave etc, child rates, child labor. America is far behind the rest of the developed world in alot of aspects and that includes labor laws
Literally all employers view employees as replaceable. Many are still paying only enough to make ends meet and not enough to have a person develop a sizeable nest egg for fear of losing the employee to financial freedom. Labor unions have more importance now than ever.
Considering employees replaceable is not just immoral, it is also a strategic error IMO. So from a let's say left-wing as well as right-wing perspective, a wide range of solutions that stem from this binary reality can be found.
@@OneMinuteEconomics Except it's absolutely not the case all the time. If you show yourself to be reliable, know your job and do it well, replacing you costs them much more than they gain. Most bosses don't expect you to do a ton of extra duties or work off the clock. What they do expect you to do is not be argumentative, complete your job to basic standards, and not be calling in often. The OP is only right when the worker is a shitty worker. People who do their jobs well consistently don't need a union, but the ones that are bad at their jobs absolutely need them.
@@FredrickTesla wrong. I’ve seen the hardest working people get treated like crap and let go over asking for a 1$ wage. I’ve walked into jobs and made 6-7$ more an hour right off the bat than the guy that’s been there for 20 years who dedicated his whole life to that shit. Greed is wrong.
@@GregLatronica Sure you have pal. Tell me, when you say "walked in," you mean after the last job fired you? Cause $6 an hour extra doesn't mean anything if you're job hopping every 6 months.
The "cost" of union dues is extremely exaggerated by the opposition. It's a relatively small amount of money in relation to the financial benefits and working conditions of being a union member.
Imagine licking the boots of the person that thinks you're just a number and getting mad at the person that wants to tell your boss that you have value.
Aren't union leaders sometimes guilty of that exact same behavior, though?
Employers, like all citizens in the United States, have the right to free speech. Although employers cannot prevent unions from soliciting to their employees or punish employees for supporting a union, employers can express their disproval of labor unions to employees. Employers can explain to workers why they dislike unions and how unionization might affect the company.
Labor Relations Act (NLRA) of 1935- This Act secures workers’ abilities to bargain as a group instead of individually. The NLRA prohibits employers from firing and disciplining workers for trying to organize labor! For the most part, employers cannot ban or discriminate against pro-union employees. If the employees want to be represented by a Union, they are free to make that choice.
Employers must negotiate in collective bargaining if requested
Both sides must negotiate in good faith, meaning that neither party can intentionally behave badly during negotiations
Employers cannot prevent employees from organizing
Employers cannot prohibit signs or symbols promoting the union
Employers cannot promise or grant benefits to bribe employees
Employers should not hold meetings about unions in a supervisor’s office
U.S. employers are willing to use a wide range of legal and illegal tactics to frustrate the rights of workers to form unions and collectively bargain. Employers are charged with violating federal law in 41.5% of all union election campaigns. And one out of five union election campaigns involves a charge that a worker was illegally fired for union activity. Using more comprehensive measures, employers were charged with illegally firing workers in nearly a third (29.6%) of all NLRB-supervised elections, a violation of NLRA Section 8(a)(3)! Employers are charged with violating NLRA Section 8(a)(1) by making threats, engaging in surveillance activities, coercing, disciplining, changing work terms, threatening to remove benefits, threatening to close plants, questioning employees about their union activities or membership, spying or pretending to spy on union gatherings, granting wage increases deliberately timed to discourage employees from forming or joining a union, retaliating or harassing workers in nearly a third of all union election campaigns! Employers were more likely to be charged with violating the law where there were larger bargaining units. More than half (54.4%) of employers in elections involving more than 60 employees (roughly 25% of elections) were charged with violating federal law. Beyond this, there are many things employers can do legally to thwart union organizing; employers spend roughly $340 million annually on “union avoidance” consultants to help them stave off union elections. This combination of illegal conduct and legal coercion has ensured that union elections are characterized by employer intimidation and in no way reflect the democratic process guaranteed by the National Labor Relations Act.
www.nlrb.gov/about-nlrb/rights-we-protect/the-law/coercion-of-employees-section-8b1a
Far more U.S. workers want unions than have the benefit of representation today. In 2018, only 6.4% of private-sector workers were union members (BLS 2019). That stands in stark contrast to the nearly half (48%) of all nonunion workers who say they would vote for a union if given the opportunity-a 50% higher share than when a similar survey was taken in 1995 (Kochan et al. 2018). When workers are able to win union representation and collectively bargain, their wages, benefits, and working conditions improve. On average, a worker covered by a union contract earns 13.2% more than a peer with similar education, occupation, and experience in a nonunionized workplace in the same sector. Union workers are more likely to have employer-sponsored health insurance, and their employers contribute more toward those plans. They are also more likely to have paid vacation and sick leave. Union workers are more likely to have retirement plans, with their employers contributing more toward those plans than comparable nonunion employers do. Unions also create safer workplaces. And union workers are covered by due process protections, so that, unlike nonunion workers in the U.S., union workers cannot be fired “at will,” with no warning and for almost any reason.
Bro did u type all dis😂
@@uniquenoodles5413 No I cut and pasted, and then went on a educational spree under after I learned that corporations spend millions on consultants (like Google did with IRC Consultants) which provide education on tactics for “union avoidance". Labor Relations Institute is another one, and it's one of the nation’s largest union-avoidance firms... But doesn't it sound so collaborative?
In half of all union election campaigns employers are charged with violating laws (threatening, firing, disciplining, or retaliating against workers trying to form a union). We have weak labor laws as it is, unions are at record lows, and still millions are spent busting unionization. Netflix has a decent film on this, American Factory.
Were learning about this in social studies (Antebellum South Carolina) and I really didnt understand what a unionist was
Union Strong!!! ⚒️ Labourers should have a Say in the Workplace!!!
If you're a good worker you already have a say without a union. I've gotten plenty of raises in my lifetime and I live in a right to work state. I've also watched plenty of people who weren't cut out for the job being escorted out. If there were a union here the company would be forced to keep those people on staff and they would have kept being a liability to everyone else on the job.
No you don't.
If you are my best employee and you tell me that your equipment is obsolete (and somehow I as the boss haven't noticed it before) and that replacing it will make everyone more productive I would rush to do it. Or if you tell me that work conditions are poor as they are and improving them will lead to more productive workers I am going to improve them because I want more money. Or if you say that we need more security measures because people could get injured as they are working right now then I will implement them because I don't want to lose my best workers in an accident and I don't want to pay a funeral.
If you are a parasite that demand for more free time, more pay, more days off, less hours and less responsibilities, while at the same time you are trying to convince my productive employees that they should threaten to quit if I don't do what you say then you are a net liability and you should get the boot as soon as possible along with anyone that went along with your nonsense.
That's how it should work.
its not just good workers that deserve bargaining power, fair pay, fair breaks, fair leave, fair conditions etc etc and there are lots and lots of cases of valuable workers being underappreciated in their workplace, labor unions are very important still and probably forever however whether or not the union has your best interests at heart is where you should be worried.
Gotta watch this for a grade anybody else?
Hope you extracted a ton of value from it and that the grade will reflect that, good luck!
Lol me too😂✊🏽
No I'm reading the Irishman. Just wanted some context.
For education, I guess.
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Without the unions, companies get to fire you easily.
with union,company will bankrupt soon and u all lose job.
@@asdfghjklqwertyuiopzxcbbnm ah right because the multimillion dollar company will spontaneously implode because i asked for a livable wage.
as a truck driver for over 20 years. Being all over the country i can honestly say that going to union places is the most miserable experience they are the slowest and most miserable people. I also went to truck driving school that was union. After I got my cdl I was on the property and some new students were talking to me and I was banned off of the property because an instructor thought I was giving them advice. Side note the school is no longer union.
@@asdfghjklqwertyuiopzxcbbnm Cope
The missed aspect of union workers getting paid more than non union workers in the same organization is the effect of the prisoner's dilemma. Government employers as the main example have a fixed budget coming directly from taxpayers. The employer ends up making cuts from non-union workers in order to meet the demands of the union due to the bargaining power differential, incentivizing employees to join the union. at the same time, the employer will resist at every instant to prevent salary increases against the entire union whereas private sector employees will negotiate based on their individual merits.
good work as always
Thank you so much Rachel!
I think one of the grips I have against Unions is it can (but not always) encourage mediocrity. I am guaranteed a certain payment by the Union, not by my quantity or quality of work performed.
Note: I clicked on this video to better understand Unions as I don't have strong opinion at this time.
What's special about trade unions that economic conservatives are against them, but against any other market interventions?
Hahaha, that's a good point about economic conservatives general hypocrisy
The thing is, conservatives (republicans in the US) tend to be against many forms of market intervention, as explained here: ruclips.net/video/Pl9pAtdJck4/видео.html
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I live in Sweden and here I haven't benefitted at all from trade unions, people withintrade union also don't always takes their job seriously and doesn't always help the workers
the job I'm at right now turned a temp worker into a union worker because the first year apprentices were making more than him on the check and had better benefits than he could afford. there was some bitching and backlash from him when we spoke about what we wanted in our contract (spoiled and privileged and all that jazz). But in the end the only solution for him to get what he felt he was worth was to just join up. Hopefully he won't be working nights at a Wendy's anymore!
Argument against, less money 4rd generation multibillion inheritance. Argument for, a dignified life for workers thanks to more access to surplus value.
Fair arguments in both cases, but only two of maaaaaaaaany variables in this equation :)
Good work - but the greatest argument against was skipped - the rising cost of labor puts the poorest fellow out of work.
They have consequences, those who get hired get better privileges while the those who do not produce enough for this new minimum wage are let go.
I gotta love the union workers around me that 10 of them stand around and do nothing, while one person works. Or when none of them work, but still get paid. I wish everyone can stand around and do nothing but still get paid.
I'm from Eastern Europe, you should drop by sometime :D
When you are new you have to work but when you are there for awhile then you can stand a little
Elon musk, jeff bezos and mark zuckerberg do just that and they earn wayyy more
@@Gigachad-mc5qz Yet, they put in capitol and hard work early on, risking their entire lives for the sake of financial growth. Money breeds money. Elon may have millions, but he doesn't live like it. He consumes almost none of what he makes, he simply puts it right back into business to provide people jobs. He's done way more good than any harm to the economy. Look into him and what he does.
I wish a bill enacted by congress to audit and make it public where those union fee go and how much they got each time they took a pay cut, since working for public they are require to publish our salary
congress is sadly full of a lot of right wing politicians right now and i doubt they'd go for that action especially since alot of unions do properly delegate fees to strike funds, legal funds etc etc and that would probably increase the popularity of unions which does go against their wishes
>Union executives tell union members to vote for champagne socialists.
>Champagne socialists seize power.
>Companies offshore even more.
>Champagne socialists support mass immigration and one-sided trade deals.
>Champagne socialist-in-chief cancels major pipeline project with executive order.
>Union executives give themselves pay raises and bonuses using union dues and agency fees collected from those who do not qualify to join the union.
>Earning decline but union dues still high.
Modern labor unions in a nutshell which is why they need major cleansings or replacements.
Ouch :(
If we can get rid of capitalism then these issues would be solved
@@ericthedumbmet4699 how simplistic of you.
Great video bro
Thanks a lot!
I cannot find info on Switching/Changing unions. We’re considering doing that. E.G. I turned in a Request Form to the manager & stated that I was taking a whole day off, vs a half day, bc I found out they count the half day as a Whole Occurrence. They got mad and responded with “that’s fine we’ll talk to your union steward about your tardies” to which I swiftly responded “AbSoLuTeLy!”. I went to our Union Representative who said they’re allowed to do that, it’s crappy, but allowed’ to which I said “That’s retaliation and illegal!” However they’re saying it’s not?!? This is one small example and we’re all getting responses like this.. the only reason we are with this union is because, it’s said, our last union was removed for corruption…. this is all just too much!! What the heck do I do (as an employee)?
Why do you call it trade union? It´s not about trade or trading at all. Its a strong voice and a way for the workers to unite and claim their rights.
Historical arguments for the most part, from the idea (controversial, however) that trade unions are the successors of medieval guilds (different guilds for different trades/occupations) to even names of past organization themselves, for example the fact that arguably the first labor organization which represented the interests of a broad groups of workers with different occupations was called the General Union of Trades back in 1818.
Trade was just another word for occupation. f.e. factory workers union
yes, its so funny. it should not to be called " trade union" because they are burden of companu and do nothing at trading.
@@asdfghjklqwertyuiopzxcbbnm Yeah a burden on the company, they force the company to not do child labour, 12 hour days or other profitable ways to "trade"
@@germangamingvideos6069 what companies do it? i think its just your imagination
You are going so fast .! Buddy please reduce your speed a little bit.!
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Just make it slower-I have ADHD and it made it easier
as a truck driver for over 20 years. Being all over the country i can honestly say that going to union places is the most miserable experience they are the slowest and most miserable people. I also went to truck driving school that was union. After I got my cdl I was on the property and some new students were talking to me and I was banned off of the property because an instructor thought I was giving them advice. Side note the school is no longer union.
Thanks for sharing your experience Steven!
Awesome job
Thanks a lot for the kind words Timbone!
Uhm but at most jobs if you say the word union you are fired.. or “laid off” so how does this all actually work in practicality.
One question I'd like to ask is, who can create a union? Can it be created by some employees of the same company or employees from the different company or what exactly is it?
Any worker can create a union there is no specific person who is allowed to create it.
@@vloggsswithshy Suppose there are 100 employees, and 20 employees consent to create one, so there can be 5 unions in the company itself ?
Near.
I have a question you may be able to answer. I am a fan of a sport that has existed in the USA since 1968. The sport is "Motocross", (dirt bike racing off road on a dirt track full of jumps and other obstacles), used to be very much more free market than it is today. But intervention from Europe, (they really invented the sport after WW2), starting in the mid 80's, and now global environmentalists, (pushed a 4-stroke engine over the less expensive to manufacture 2-stroke engine), with much added regulation for emissions have driven the cost of a bike from $1,400 in the mid 80's, (rose from $800 in 1968-79, to $1,400 by 1984, which I consider a natural free market increase over time, the bikes got a lot better too) to over $10,000 now, with one 1/5 the bikes sold compared to the 70's. The sport is not supported by bike sales today, as much as it is on energy drinks. Now there is talk about a "racers union", including a fair wage, free health care/insurance, and even a pension. My question is, from the information I gave you, (I hope it is enough), how do you think a riders union will effect the health of the sport. IMO, it might finish the sport off in 10 years. What do you think?
Thank you
A guy from Michigan.
Thanks a lot for dropping by but the thing is, it is difficult to tell at this point because it all depends on the specifics associated with the union in question. How aggressive is it? How constructive, if at all? The list could go on and on. But as someone who lives in the European Union, I'm the first to admit that EU bureaucrats oftentimes take things too far. Enough to put an otherwise popular enough sport to its knees? Not necessarily but perhaps enough for a "perfect storm" situation to eventually emerge :(
OUR few Remaing Trade Union Jobs.
Ideally a balance would be necessary between pro-union and pro-employer laws. If the laws are too much in favor of the unions, it hurts the companies, productivity goes down and it cuts into the gross domestic product that sustains the economy. If the laws are too much in favor of the employer, the workers get screwed over and society becomes less sustainable sowing discontent with more people having less money to contribute to the economy. Unfortunately, the US labor laws to this day remain too much in favor of the employer with left-wing politicians too feckless by design to do anything about it.
Thanks for the country! Which specific measures would you recommend in the US?
@@OneMinuteEconomics Running businesses has never been my strong suit, but ideally they would be measures that are for both sides. On the employees side, they are paid livable wages with a decent length weekend, given decent benefits like Medical coverage, stable employment, the opportunity for overtime, and are minimally stressed. On the employers side, they are permitted to work their employees within reason, able to terminate employees for just cause, and will not be obliged to pay their employees more than a certain percentage of profits within their company. CEOs don’t need to earn 100 times more than their workers, but they should still be making enough money that benefits everyone under them, and not just make the money for themselves. One shouldn’t reject success however as too much pressure on the employers could lead to brain drain and corporate exodus, which would be a new set of problems that’d hurt our economy.
At least that’s my take on it.
Sensible ideas, with one important remark. After coming across more than a few ultra-successful entrepreneurs, I have to say that in many cases, I believe a visionary founder/CEO deserves even 100x more. If only because in pretty much all situations I for one have withessed, executing their vision involved essentially putting their lives on hold, risking everything financially, submitting themselves to debilitating levels of stress and so on. In the absence of asymmetrical rewards and especially given today's context of demonizing high-earning CEOs, I feel that there would be too much in the way of disincentives and not enough in the way of incentives associated with this path in life. Nowadays, there is an ultra-strong healing and mindfulness trend: learning to be happy, saying no to stress and so on. Yet in the absence of the occasional degenerately ambitious founder/CEO and the job creation potential thereof... many of those who currently hate executive types would be without a job and thus, anything but in a good position to seek happiness and deploy mindfulness. I know I am not winning popularity points with such comments, but this trend of hating CEOs has gone a bit too far in my opinion. Not referring to your comment by the way, which was more than reasonable and well-articulated. I'm talking about the broader trend :(
@@OneMinuteEconomics And what when billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk avoid paying federal income tax while increasing their net worth by billions, spend their vast wealth on yachts, gilded furniture, going into space, what have you…it’s hard for us peasants to have any sympathy for them. Such injustice only favors the rich.
Do you believe that if people like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk (with all their flaws) would not exist, the world would be a better place? It's easy to succumb to the temptation of saying yes in light of how asymmetrically wealthy they are or perhaps let's say after one of Elon Musk's excesses. But no matter what angle I for one view the situation from, I find it extremely different to settle for anything other than "no" as an answer :)
At the end of the day, In my opinion, there are arguably good and bad points working union or non-union. Fact check, about 8% or 9%, tops, of labor in this Nation is Union. Leaving a 90% to 92% of the work force in the Nation Non-Union. Yet the loudest voices speaking derogatory of Unions are the 90%. While companies and today's large corporations spend millions of dollars on Union Busting Tactics. Doing everything in their power to keep Unions from organizing. Some of whom make record breaking profits quarter after quarter. The bottom-of-the-pyramid workers may, or may not see their fair share while the share-holders, and upper management reap the Lion's Share. This, while workers across the Nation watch their income stagnant for the last 15 years. (2008). We have no more Middle Class. You cannot ignore the income inequality, Union or Non-Union! At the end of the day, it's the worker's decision. Do your homework. That's the great thing about this Nation, CHOICE!
Are there competing unions, like competing insurance companies?
Yep :)
Thx
You're more than welcome! :)
Paying dues goes into retired members pension and it's only 30 dollars a month. Non union workers are getting crumbs while the owners pocket the rest and if they get hurt well there fucked
So trade unions are internal to firms? They aren’t a third party organisation that employers hire to make sure their needs are being seen to?
yes they are a third party organization
no nvm, nvm. It's internal to a buisness yes. Sry lol
District of Columbia, ITTYL.
0:22 wouldn't that violate freedom of assembly?
Do unions work for employees? Once the union is established it protects workers.
You do not believe? Look at the success and power of police unions and understand why corporate structures are afraid of unions. ;-)
Are there not stories of mediocrity as well, however?
@@OneMinuteEconomics I appreciate you playing the devils advocate for all sides.
i still dont get what it means 😔 for my business class 😭
If you have a question, let me know and I'll do my best to answer or perhaps someone else can chime in :)
I might get a job at a union for bimbo is it worth it ?
Unions can be good or worse. For a worker with unfair employers, it's a blessing. For good employers where employees want more every time to the point where it can put you out of business, it's very bad. A smart company that has a bad union should always have a month's worth of back up revenue, have connections to hire non union employees and fire the union workers altogether. Several companies have done that and fared very well.
I was just introduced to Unions and have heard things from both sides, but you have any good resources I could watch to learn about them?
Im not trying to debate anything or be the 'source?' type of person, just trying to find info.
@@tobicipher9300 My best advice is to look up labor laws and understand they are for everyone. The next time you see someone making outlandish claims of abuse or neglect from their employers, ask yourself why law enforcement wasn't involved, and what the likelihood of the story being a fabrication is.
Also, a good mental question: Unions aren't just the good and nice people at your job, they're not people like you, it's everyone from all walks of life. What is the likelihood that you will never disagree with the majority of your union for your entire career vs what is the likelihood they will be deducting their dues from your paycheck every pay period?
Work union.
These videos are strongly censored by capitalism. But its true. People live better with unions. But thats not profit, thats quality of life. Quality of life does not regard capitalism.
Hi Francisco, for what it's worth, I don't think there is anything algorithm-wise designed to limit the exposure of videos about such topics. Also, I believe capitalists care quite a bit about the quality of life dimension, not for reasons pertaining to morality necessarily but rather for practicality purposes: from selling products/services designed to improve the quality of life of those who buy them to being interested in the quality of life of their employees because it's been proven to be conducive to improved productivity.
Unions are the reason all workers get a decent wage - eliminate the unions and we will all be working for $5 an hour
Hmm, but how do you explain situations where unions don't exist, yet wages are sky-high?
I would say that although the workers in question are getting paid well it's probably because there employers are not contributing into a pension and or annuity. So on paper it looks as if the workers are getting more money. Trickfuckery. All i know is most union benefit packages are over 20 bucks an hr and they can retire at 62 or earlier with a pension and annuity. Unions only make up about 7.5% of the workforce today with more states going "right to work" which is "right to work for less". Rep @ Dem are crushing unions as we speak glad I am retired and living the dream. I put 24yrs in and retired at 56 1/2 yrs old. Good Luck 👍 glad to hear your doing so well. I need more people like you working and working to pay into my soon to be drawing SS.
Congratulations, first of all! However, in many sectors such as most notably IT, ultra-high wages as well as generous contributions are paid. Shades of grey :)
Well I'm the last person you would want to talk to about Unions. I can till you this. You will always be able to come up with what you perceive to be a good wage - IT workers c'mon man ha ha there average pay is like $20 per hr. A union Electrician in Wa state is like $48hr a Boilermaker is $40hr a Pipefitter is over $50hr. Hell a Teamster UPS driver makes $30hr or more. And that is just there wage THERE benefit package which includes there annuity pension vacation pay health insurance ect is way over $20 an hr. Each of the three trades I mentioned have 4-6yr apprenticeship programs that pay as you learn. Do they have dues yes do they take 5-6% out of your weekly pay check yes. But let me ask you this. If I told you, you could live and work anywhere in the US and make 60 to over 100k a year but you had to give 3,600 to 6,000 out of that money would you do it? Having to work far away from home at times is not for everyone. Being in a Union is not for everyone. I did it at age 32 1/2 and retired at 56 1/2. Full retirement was 58. I did it for 24yrs. Employers have to base the wage on something and if a Union worker gets $50 a hr a non union knowing the whole union package is over $80 an hr can pay a non union worker $60hr and still under bid the Union contractor for the job. In the end like I said before - when they get rid of the unions everyone can all work for $5hr.
Truly appreciate the degree to which you are willing to share. Hope other viewers will end up noticing your comments. And I agree 100% that the scenario you have referred to represents a clear one where the pros outweigh the cons. Also, I might have gone to broad by simply saying "IT" because if we narrow it down to let's say "hot" fields such as app programming, blockchain development and so on, the average pay is well, well... well north of $20 hourly over in the US. That was the main message I have tried to get across. Just like there are union-related success stories such as yours, there are non-union ones as well :)
Unions are the reason Angel Hernandez still has a job.
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The one truth not mentioned here is that the unions universally donate to the Democratic Party. Imagine the roles were switched and the unions donated to the Republican party out of your pay check. Many unions offer the option to opt out but you are still required to pay dues. My mother lived this. From her perspective, her union was funding people who supported abortion against her will. And you wonder why the right actually oppose unions?
Unions still protect workers and prevent them from being exploited and abused by the establishment they work for. Without Unions workers would be treated extremely poorly and be underpaid.
@@JHEntertainment98 And fund the Democratic party. This is the only reason they support them. It has nothing to do with worker rights. I am from Michigan. How well do you think unionizing worked for our auto industry? Worked out real well for Flint and Detroit right?
@@Infectd it happened because the factories moved to places they can fire people witout cause. if everyone american state had workers rights, they could not of moved out of michigan. they found a place with dumber people who were willing to accept less money. that's not a slight on michigan.
@@greencable2222 I mean our federal government actually made it easier for them to move out of the country. That was done by the Dems. But wait, do you think the government should have the power to force businesses to not move from one state to another? What happens when they have a legitimate reason like lack of talent in their area after years of liberal arts majors producing nothing but coffee shop workers with a dream? Couldn't said town complain they are leaving because they want better labor and the government have the authority to make them stay? Would this not hinder future products by said company for the sake of your ideology? I am for free market and the states have their own rights. If the residents of that state want additional rights, they have the power to obtain them. You liberals are so uneducated on the WHY our government is structured the way it is. You just see your ideology being stopped from full woketardism at the national level. Now you want to change the rules so you can rule from DC dictating everything to everyone without question.... For the good of all mankind. Authoritarians like you deserve the misery you will inflict on society. Just glad I can afford to wait you out.
All I know is, I worked at a non-union job and got paid more and had longer breaks, than I did at the exact same job with a union. Then when I tried to negotiate a higher wage based on my experience and my previous wage, I was told they couldn't even have that conversation with me, because I was part of a union. So not only was I making significantly less money, but I had to pay Union dues out of it. And I didn't have a choice to join the union or not, and I'm not sure the employer had a choice either. Sooooo, based on my experience, unions are just parasites no one wants and you can't get rid of. They're the mob boss who takes your money and tells you how it's going to be. They're the unnecessary middle man.
Thanks for sharing your experience Daisy, it's always important to keep an open mind and stay away from "one size fits all" answers
Why did you leave a job that has better working conditions than the job you went to?
@@kevinwalton3038 bc I moved
@@burtjulia0 oh, that sucks.
as a truck driver for over 20 years. Being all over the country i can honestly say that going to union places is the most miserable experience they are the slowest and most miserable people. I also went to truck driving school that was union. After I got my cdl I was on the property and some new students were talking to me and I was banned off of the property because an instructor thought I was giving them advice. Side note the school is no longer union.
if a company doesn't want to be crippled by a strike then it shouldn't resist it's workers
Wouldn't that depend on what the demands of the workers in question are?
@@OneMinuteEconomics obviously if the workers are demanding gold plated Tesla's then that's rediculous. But workers don't do that, if a company can't afford to meet union demands which rarely go beyond decent benifits, not being worked to death, maternity and decent pay in the most extreme circumstances then it probably shouldn't be in business in the first place, it's not like those things are unreasonable
Fair point, although in some cases there can be a fine line between demands that are reasonable and sustainable on the one hand and on the other, demands which might jeopardize the profitability of the company in question.
@@OneMinuteEconomics maybe in a country where capital hasn't developed enough to allow for a decent wage and all those other things but in america where average labour productivity is about $70 an hour and PROFIT per worker in 2020 (not a good year obviously) is about $50K (I double checked the math on that one 😅) you'd have to be asking for some pretty insane benifits before it got anywhere near unreasonable, like more than any union has ever asked for levels of insane
Unions protect the bad workers. If your a great employee you don’t need Union protection because any sane company will want to keep you. Years ago my friend was in the Boston carpenters Union. He worked for the same company even when work dried up because they wanted to keep him around. He told me that if he were paying his co-workers ( not all but most) he would pay them minimum wage because that’s what most were doing, this minimum
Its funny that people spend all day seething at how good Union workers have it, instead of trying to join a union. Weird.
I used to be anti union. I was poor. Im not anti union anymore. Im not poor anymore.
Lol your work being union or not had nothing to do with you being poor or not. There are plenty of high paying non-union jobs.
You know what's better than workers organizing for greater conditions under the boot of the ruling class? Workers owning the means of production!
Karl... is that you? :)
Then start your own business. Once you put in the capital and risk, then you can own it.
@@user-nx1pe2cs1t Did u even read my comment, that's obviously not what it meant.........
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It's just a middleman
the techno union army is at your disposal count...
>too many privileges
Sounds like the boss is needs to check theirs.
todays Union, is not my Dads Union.... he would be ashamed... yes, I worked Union.
Hi John, what do you believe today's unions are missing and why?
@@OneMinuteEconomics I am/was a PM/Estimator for several Contractors, both Union and non Union. What I have to say is the Business side of it, and Clearly would get some Feathers up in a bunch with Union Workers.
Heh, I've noticed in the comments that it's a topic that generates a fair bit of emotion. Understandable, at the end of the day.
One Minute Economics one guy commented he was Union and screw the business... so screw the business that is keeping him employed and gives him a check..... it’s sad really.....
Given the very tricky context we find ourselves in, emotional responses are to be expected. When someone makes a harsh emotion-laden comment, I always try to understand that a personal tragedy might lie behind those words, for example. I then remember my own down days and that helps put things into perspective. I've had great results here on this channel when, unlike most folks who like to be controversial/edgy, I deployed the exact opposite approach and even tried to empathize with those who criticized me in the harshest of terms. We're only human, after all, even if it sometimes feels we're losing just that :(
let's not leave out that it DOESN'T matter if you have a PHD or 20 plus years experience, in a union job you will start at level 1 (ENTRY) smfh
I guy said to me he would kill for a 30 dollar union job, I told him 30 dollars ant shiii t to me , I got a brain, no need for union, or snitch or harm nobody. Some people would do harm for a p of s job, and at the end they find them selfs still broke because the brain part was the issue the how time for them.
I came here after i found out that the NY family Mobs owened all these Unions.
@Lazys The Dank Engineer well they funded and laundered money.
Look up "Fear City: NY V. The Mafia:
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Sounds like great business for employees. Who cares about the politics. We're there to make money 💰
Can it prove to be great for employees? Yep. Can it backfire and prove to be terrible? Once again... yep :)
I have never met a trade worker that said damn I wish I could join the Union... I have however met quite a few people that said I'm glad I left the Union
Ouch :D
Labor union don’t work in Nj non union makes more
The arguments for are absolute BS
The cons heavily outweigh the pros here
Go do slave work then. But dont complain
The Mafia owns the union!
Then we can get the Mafia out of Labour Unions just like we did with the production of alcohol.
A union worker gets 20% work done when compared to a non-union worker
Hi, what data supports the value in question?
Created from a pro union perspective
I'm politically and ideologically agnostic, for what it's worth
A union sounds like something a lazy entitled person is a part of.
Not necessarily
@@OneMinuteEconomics no one forces anyone into any job. It is a mutual agreement between an employer and employee with an agreed upon wage. For a group of employees to band together to go against the person who hired them in the first place sounds quite ridiculous.
In a lot of cases, sure. But can you think of no scenario in which unions represent a net positive?
@@nickhofstetter7640 What a stupid take devoid of any reason and any sense of understanding of the world. Do you know why union are a thing in the first place ? They are there to give power to the workers that otherwise DONT HAVE ANY !
There is no mutual agreement.
Do you really think people would want to work at a job that keeps them in poverty ?
If the only choice you have is either working 2 jobs or going homeless then you don't have any say in the negotiation table. Compagnies know that, so they can afford to say fuck off and take the other desperate guy looking for a job. JUST DON'T WORK IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT LOLOLOLOL ! WHO CARES IF YOU GO HOMELESS OR LIKE LIVE IN A SHITTY APARTMENT WITH NO FUTURE !
Its like you assume that workers have any power. There is no mutual agreement if the worker is forced to accept the conditions given to them.
NOBODY wants to live in poverty. Compagnies can afford to pay their workers more but don't do it. WHY ? Because they know that workers individually have 0 power.
Compagnies and big corporation work together to keep salaries low. Just look at how much they pay to campaign against unions.
People would never take shitty work benefits/salary. They agree to work in these kinds of jobs BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE A CHOICE. The one in power is not the worker but the employer.
8 hour work day, 40 hours a week, abolition of child labor (even if it still exists in the usa), women being able to work, parental leave etc... Exists because of labor unions.
Any worker could have more. Every corporation/compagnie can afford to give more. No worker individually has power. Every corporation/compagnie has more power than the worker.
Unions are there to force a standard and give a voice to the worker. And it needs to be there because otherwise, its open season for exploitation.
No unions = no power. History has shown that.
@@simonpitre7978 You know what they say, hide and go seek for a grand a week. The good union workers break their backs for the same position guys playing with their tools. Probably would take a couple months to get him fired, boom, hire another one. Same thing over and over. Unions are mostly good and all but there are some private sector jobs that actually pay competitively with room to move up. Lot more running room when it comes taking time off, breaks, showing up on time, going home early, etc.
Non union members do pay for union members benefits indirectly through tax dollars going to unions and unions being exempt from anti trust laws and therefore holding labour monopolies through the power of the state