Are We MISSING OUT! Necron Strategy 10th Edition Codex
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- Are we missing out on the Doom Scythe? Let's review the Necron Doomscythe Flyer, in this Necrons tactics 2024, 40k Strategy video.
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Night Shroud. На него правила есть ? Ним можно играть в место косы?
@@ТлазолтБезликий Yes it has rules
I one shot a Knight Gallant with my Doomscythe in the biggest tournament that I competed in back in the index days. I went 3-0 to finish 2nd at the event. I put 34 damage into the Knight and my buddy failed enough saves and FNP to literally one shot it off the table. Best moment in my Warhammer history.
That's awesome, I love stories like that :) NECRONS!!
By the way yes my Doom Scythe always came in by The Silent King also.
@@travishayton1183 I love the doom scythe you got to love the memes
If the doom scythe was slightly cheaper or given hover I think it would be amazing.
It defo could come down in points
@@IDICBeer i was really hoping they would reduce the points for the night and doom scythes with the recent point changes.
@@PapaFunDip Yeah 😪
Will give this a go with the HCL - Putting down and picking up the Doomscythe each turn
I think it will be fun 😎
I think the Doomscythe just costs way too much. 230 Points for a unit which can’t hold objectives and unfortunately could be shot down way too easy. I tried one in HCL. It was not worth the points and definitely I would not think about bring a second.
Yes I agree it needs to be cheaper
Others don't get 5+ sustained. Just 5+ criticals. I'm sure that's what you meant just want to clear that up. I don't really think they're competitive with all the flyer issues. Maybe if it cost at most the same as the DDA ... or ideally less.
The combo you're mentioning would be almost half your army, which is the problem. I do love the idea of hyperphasing them
Thanks, yeah that's what I meant to say ha ha
Yeah, more for fun games and tbh I wouldn't do this with TSK myself, just pointing out the possibility
@IDICBeer it does sound a lot of fun. I miss using my Scythes
Do the opponents get any benefit from standing firm or ducking for cover? Doesn’t state that they do
No, it just effects the benefits we get
@@IDICBeer that’s such a great idea actually. First turn, I’ve found it’s mostly setting the stage, and getting a few shots off for a nasty turn two push. These two flyers, popping in and out every turn after that sounds good. They still get a -1 to be hit with the aircraft rule right?
@@johngibson826 Sadly they took away the -1 in 10th
This unit needs to be totally reimanaged. If you have races that are this old. why not combine their flyers? Give it hover increases every aspect, even price, but make it useful make the transport in league with the monolith like beam up some troops and they can come out the monolith ect..…
It does seem like GW aren't putting any effort into flyers in general atm
Shot at a squad of assault intersesors rolled 2 5s and 6 with 3 3s on his d3.... yeah they died
Nice :D
Its biggest problem is its survivability. Thats a lot of points for a unit that won't last long.
Maybe, but in the right list it will be ignored, I find my heavy gun units hardly get touched these days as we fight over midfield objectives so much
honestly all choices are fine besides the ark... I hate how it looks
Fair play
Once I use it in hypercrypt,only to check if it is easy for positioning, when I start play I found the change to the ability is good against main damage output unit.
Good to hear
I think across all factions GW needs to decide how they want to treat flyers. I hope for 11th they find a way for them to be fun without being oppressive. The current system just makes most flyers feel bad (unless they have hover in which case they are just inefficient but still fun)
Yeah they have gone from one extreme to the other and it seems like they are almost striking them out of the game
@@IDICBeer I wonder if giving all flyers hover and just making players pay premium for their mobility and utility/damage would fix it. Also limiting your force to 1 flyer per 1000 points might be a way to make them more balanced without having their points be awful.
Hmm...you want to know what I think? 🤔 If only I had thought of such a tactic....😛
If only ;) ha ha
yes normal name please lol
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Having some friendly games tomorrow. Night try them out for a change 🎉
Let me know how it goes if you do 👍
@@IDICBeer I had a play with it and... I don't think it's great. It's fragile and expensive like we knew it would be.
The main uses I found for it are
1 hunt super heavy units. If they stand firm on the first round of shooting then the second one will often get extra hits. A lot of damage against one big target.
Or if they choose to take cover their super heavy will now be -1 to hit that can be very good against guard or orks
2 support a monolith . Having 4 death rays get extra hits can be big if your happy using a monolith. But with the cost of both units not sure this is a great option. ( But was fun) Hope this helps
@@es83stevenson88 Thanks for the feedback, very interesting
I've been having a lot of luck with the scythe lately. I think flyers have become so rare in this edition that people aren't used to something being able to see through terrain. As for it's deathray ability, in my experience across maybe 5 games, no one, ever, chooses the 5+ to crit. They duck every time, it's just too much damage to risk, especially if you have a bunch of other sustain on the board.
I haven't tried it yet, but I'm actually thinking of running it in obeisance phalanx... I know, I know, it's "the bad one" but there are a couple nice tricks in the strategem department. Specifically enslaved artifice for that 5+ crit your opponent isn't going to give you anyway, and nanoassembly protocols for -1 damage on the return fire.
Thanks for sharing that and a good point for sure, I really enjoyed playing the obeisance phalanx, defo will play it again
My favourite model in the whole list, such a shame it costs 50-60 points more than its worth.
The update to the heavy death ray effect is nice although imagine what a titanic model would look like ducking for cover lol
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One thing you did not mention Nick was that as a 'true' aircraft, if you 'toe' it into ruins when you bring it on in your deployment zone you get true line of sight (towering rule) to many places and the benefit of cover for your opponent's return fire. In addition, only flying units can charge it.
Good points mate 👍
I personally quite like the model, and you don't even have to magnetise the main weapon, easy enough to swap out the gun with the teleporter device to change it to Night Scythe if you want. Planet 40k said he didn't like the model though 😢 don't know why.
Yeah I like it myself, looks like the old Battlefleet Gothic Necron ships which is nice to see and like you say a two in one model with no magnets is a plus for it for sure :D NECRONS!!
also about the doom scythe I wish they bring back the rules of -1 to hit for all aircraft... it will not survive a turn most of the time so any defensive rules will help
Yeah that woukd helo and make sense for sure
Thanks for Ur thoughts on that 🤩 someday i gonna try IT Out in hypercrypt 🎉 i think for the Rest of the detachments, there are much better Units 🤷🏼♂️
Yeah perfect for Hypercrypt for sure :D NECRONS!!
I think there should be a scenario/detachment for flying units. Like rescue mission/deep insertion mission.
Yeah that would be really cool, it seems like GW aren't too keen to have flyers everywhere atm, not like it was when they were first launched ha ha
I love it in hypercrypt. My opponent finds it hard to hide from and pen in.
Good to hear Steve 👍
I need to finish repainting mine soon
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I always use a doomscythe in every 2k list, and works nice!
Good to hear 👍
@@IDICBeer Last time i shot at baneblade rolled 4,5,6 ( with criticals on 5s) and got 7 heavy death ray hits. Did 16 dmg. :)
I think that this critical 5+ only applies to the doomscyte's death rayz
, and not for the whole army.
DS is also decent in obesience phalanx and critical hits 5+ strat, which will also work in its Tesla destructors.
@@bastionwargaming7965 You may be right, but from the way it's worded it indicates that after is stands firm ranged attacks get it
@@IDICBeer Yeah, wordings can be unclear, so I'd say it's RAI.
I think you're underestimating the silent king. One of the top players in the world made a comment about one of his abilities that really made me think. The bringer of unity ability. There are a lot of models in the game right now by either one or half. Disability will remove that modifier. This can be absolutely huge when facing anything from greater demons to Ctan.
Yeah that is a good point, personally I am not a fan of playing one big unit type lists generally, especially after having almost no choice in 9th to play TSK every game lol
@@IDICBeer that's why I don't take my monolith, tesseract vault, or any of my cyans
I love the king. Run him in range of 2 doomsday arks. If they say still they hit on 2 re roll 1 and then wound most things on a 2 or 3 and re roll the 1. King makes them very efficient