Fixing Five TERRIBLE Kirby Copy Abilities

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
  • Kirby copy abilities are really fun, in the textbook, classic Nintendo way. But... you'd be surprised how many of these are actually bad. Let's talk about them, and make them better!
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Комментарии • 68

  • @buttbags379
    @buttbags379 2 дня назад +20

    HAL Laboratories in their laboratories creating a Copy Ability that will both be the most popular with the fans and the worst at speedrunning the Arena: 👨‍🔬🧪👨‍🔬 💥 🪞

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад +5

      Every fiber of my being desperately wants Mirror to be good. I just want the casuals and runners to agree on something

    • @WildArmACF
      @WildArmACF 2 дня назад

      @@Klaire_Fluffle Mirror was a fave for the true arena and arena. Especially its guard and reflection of ranged attacks. I get its not speedrun use but Mirror is just fun

  • @bug1gub225
    @bug1gub225 День назад +7

    other way to fix parasol: turn it in a beach umbrella to have extra vertical range (like a smaller chumbrella from star allies) to use as a platform and a shield

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  День назад +1

      That's a good idea actually! For speedrunning it's probably not what you'd expect, but it sounds fun casually too, so it fits both sides.

    • @bug1gub225
      @bug1gub225 День назад

      @@Klaire_Fluffle i imagine like It been used as a puzzle tool

  • @King_Hehehe
    @King_Hehehe 2 дня назад +7

    Cupid is such a tragedy. They were so afraid of making flight too powerful in a Kirby game that they barely gave it anything else. Still, people love it, so I have some hope. Maybe if it ever returns they'll learn from the past.

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад +2

      I actually would trust the current team with Cupid... if they cared about the abilities from the GBA games and SqSq

    • @asprinjuice425
      @asprinjuice425 День назад

      It's funny because kirby literally flies anyway so what was the point of

  • @Cruschrirus
    @Cruschrirus 2 дня назад +7

    I think the pogo stick parasol is a great idea and I also really like how you use speed running as an objective metric

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад +2

      Anything (good) for Parasol can be a great idea! hehe

    • @Cruschrirus
      @Cruschrirus 2 дня назад

      @@Klaire_Fluffle exactly

  • @Wings_Of_Nightfall
    @Wings_Of_Nightfall 2 дня назад +8

    I feel like Mirror being as rare as it is now is part of why it's so popular, if it was more prevalent people would realize it…really doesn't have much going for it. Even with its flaws, it's still one of my favorites since reflecting projectiles is just so fun

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад +3

      Fair point, but there are other rare abilities that don't get as much attention as Mirror does - literally thinking of Jet from the same games, minus Battle Royale. Shame because Mirror is , at least compared to Jet~

  • @user-lx8mk2wr2r
    @user-lx8mk2wr2r День назад +1

    I do not think balancing copy ability's around speed running is a good thing, because not all of us want or need to go fast, sometimes I want to be defensive and have fun at my own pace.

  • @autismandgaming4532
    @autismandgaming4532 2 дня назад +21

    Staff kirby was not included as that ability is beyond saving

  • @CyberKirby
    @CyberKirby 2 дня назад +2

    I'd buff mirror by making its reflecting ability active while its dashing. They don't lean into the cool relfection enough and making it so you don't have to stop moving to use it might make it more helpful.

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад +1

      I dunno if that'd help with speedrunning at all, but it would be cool! Maybe its dash naturally reflects, or something.

    • @CyberKirby
      @CyberKirby 2 дня назад

      @@Klaire_Fluffle It might not be a speedrunning superfix but it'd give a way to attack without having to lower your speed

  • @grugspro
    @grugspro День назад +2

    it'd be cool if mirror's dodge roll went across the screen or even through certain walls, broken but neat

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  День назад +1

      The dash attack already goes through walls, it just doesn't do anything aside from hitting enemies. It'd be really cool if it could do more

  • @Egalemanly
    @Egalemanly День назад +2

    Mirror can be made better if can block and reflect laser attacks , even with a helper with a Beam attack for huge damage also maybe even open portals with mirrors , Parasol be made better with a pointy end making more damage but it's a small hit box so players have to make the attack use just the tip , Cupid can turn Kirby into a arrow and shoots himself, Ranger needs a trick shot power up that can ricochet off walls like a ball for when a shot misses its target

    • @Egalemanly
      @Egalemanly День назад +1

      Also have Mirror Kirby Mirror shards be a gameplay thing where it can be break up on the floor and damage bosses , and can suck up Beam attacks for a trap , plus it can be use for puzzles

  • @castform7
    @castform7 День назад +2

    One of my least favorite abilities getting buffed for my least favorite mode in SSU. A match made in heaven. To be clear, I don't find Mirror awful, I've actually somewhat enjoyed it when I used it in the Arenas it gets to be used in (especially Robobot with the new moves and improvements to reflected projectiles). It's just that when I'm in actual levels I would usually rather use any other ability with a couple exceptions. Also never liked Dash Attack. I don't need every ability Dash Attack to be a burst movement option but I also don't need it to be Mirror's Dash Attack. Charming? Yes. Anything else. Eeeeeeh. Oh, and if you're wondering about GCO, it's kinda just a "worst of the best situation". Fine mode, look forward to the others way more every time I play SS and SSU.

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  День назад +1

      All fair points! I'm in agreement with Mirror, too; very fun, not every dash attack has to be like Wing or Fire, but compared to my other options I'm not as into it.

  • @Kirbun
    @Kirbun День назад +1

    Man, I do wish Cupid was better. It's such a guilty pleasure of mine.

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  День назад

      Moving around with it is so much fun! If only attacking with it wasn't so miserable

  • @reesewhittington6778
    @reesewhittington6778 День назад +1

    Klaire I swear to god if YOU SAY THAT MIRROR KIRBY IS BAD I'm going to scientifically remove hands from everything else in the world so you can never receive headpats again.
    3:50
    I find the lack of mentioning how Mirror Kirby is insane due to being able to hurt background/foreground enemies disturbing.
    24:52
    Ma'am you are objectively wrong. This thing SHREDS the projectile-heavy bosses, and Mirror Split solves the issue of non-projectile bosses
    25:56
    Oh, jolly good then, the pikes have been rather empty, can't wait to stab hands onto them.
    26:24
    HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU SAY MIRROR'S BAD WITHOUT MENTIONING THE THING THAT MAKES IT SO FUCKING STRONG

  • @freakishuproar1168
    @freakishuproar1168 2 дня назад +2

    I've never tried doing a serious speedrun before, and honestly I haven't been playing Kirby games for that long, so being the filthy casual I am I'm hugely intrigued by the notion of specific copy ability runs - the more silly and unoptimised the better :3 But I don't think it should be controversial to assent to the notion that certain copy abilities are "bad" in speedrunning contexts. Puppy can't go fast if she's not using the best ability for a specific scenario I agree with cupid not being a particularly good ability, at least for me. I get thrown off by the way the flying mechanic zips Kirby around levels, but the arrow firing mechanic has to wind up to activate - I feel like I'm going faster than the game intends yet I'm always late to attack.
    Slightly off topic, but the enemy designs in _Planet Robobot_ are really rad, very cute aesthetic

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад +1

      Planet Robobot in every way is such a rad game, I love it a lot

  • @the3dluxe53
    @the3dluxe53 День назад

    Needle would be good in other games if the people at HAL weren’t cowards and let it have the dash attack and the down stab in the same game. Imagine retaining needle roll momentum across an entire screen. Truly peak.

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  21 час назад +1

      Ahh, just imagining that is making me really happy AND angy because they refuse to give us peak Needle

  • @sophietwilight5051
    @sophietwilight5051 День назад +1

    I just found this channel through this video and honestly love that you're a kirby channel and also you're cute so i immediately subscribed 😊
    [I couldn't handle all the dog puns you done this video🫠]

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  День назад +1

      Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed, hope you enjoy future videos too c: I hope you pup-joy them, if you will

    • @sophietwilight5051
      @sophietwilight5051 День назад

      @@Klaire_Fluffle 😭😭😭

  • @SCoreReMake
    @SCoreReMake 2 дня назад +1

    0:30 Infomercial Kirby real? (Infomercial is an ability in the fangame Pik's Epic Kirby Sprite Comics Teh Game 2, one of its attacks is simply throwing steak knives straight forward)
    I like the idea for a new attack for Parasol! A few days ago I was playing TDX (robobot wasn't cooperating that day)True Arena with Parasol and that down attack is POWERFUL (especially the midbosses which get ripped to shreds), but it really struggles in the air. This made aerial bosses such as Kracko (and the first two phases of SoS) rather annoying. I'm thinking an even funnier solution to this problem is make Parasol's stationary hitbox comically powerful =)
    -anyways if you dont mind im going back to killing braincells playing bugzzy helper to hero why is this ability so agonizing-

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  День назад

      For the video I wanted to keep things balanced, but now that I'm in the comments I absolutely agree that just making Parasol comically OP is the way to go!

  • @howtocrie6874
    @howtocrie6874 2 дня назад +1

    Yes there are bad for speed running copy abilities but agreement that there are just some copyabilities that do practically nothing

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад

      Yeah some can be kinda stinky no matter what, those are snoozers

    • @howtocrie6874
      @howtocrie6874 2 дня назад

      Poor light
      We just need a Kirby game that gives it a move set. and its entire move set is speed at the cost of damage

  • @trickortriq
    @trickortriq 2 дня назад +1

    You don’t just make videos, you also make videos

  • @milenasouza2975
    @milenasouza2975 2 дня назад +3

    Amusing, isn’t it?

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад +3

      Lots of things are amusing! Like Kirby copy abilities hehe

  • @janthehuman1679
    @janthehuman1679 16 часов назад

    Yay! Another Klaire Fluffle video! 😁✨

  • @Sofiaabrams
    @Sofiaabrams День назад +2

    Love you're accent and your voice sounds very natural

  • @Swagpion
    @Swagpion 2 дня назад

    16:30 doesnt space ranger deleat bosses? That has to be useful in at least 1 catagory.

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  День назад

      It does alright against the bosses but there are plenty of other abilities that can do it faster. Which is why it should be able to Free the Waddle Dees

  • @JeffreyCrossaint9808
    @JeffreyCrossaint9808 2 дня назад +1

    Yay new Klaire video!

  • @Singularity-he1hm
    @Singularity-he1hm 2 дня назад +2

  • @Cruschrirus
    @Cruschrirus 2 дня назад +2

    WOOOOO

  • @cybugnephrite166
    @cybugnephrite166 2 дня назад +1

    Make Sand Better,Give it new moves instead of Just Grabs,Or slide dashes.,Like make use of Tornado's ability.

    • @Klaire_Fluffle
      @Klaire_Fluffle  2 дня назад

      For what it's worth, while I could give it better movement, it's already the best ability in Return Deluxe for bosses. True Arena speedruns basically come down to solo'ing with Sand, so it's already good!