Hello I was baptized as an infant, I am 12 and I have given my life to Jesus Christ and repented, I just want to ask if I should be baptized again because I heard that you should know who Jesus is first before being baptized
Fran ni I had the same question and someone answer yes you should to me because you are technically not baptized with a little sprinkle of water so I would say yes if you want and I want to, but you are not saved by water baptism you are saved through the lord Jesus Christ, accepting him and read Roman 10:9
@@jesus4life196 yeah you must get baptised again. That was not baptism in which you were sprinkled with water. Beleive me. Your whole body must be immersed in water (which symbolize the death of christ). You must beleive in JESUS as your savior and you must repent for your sins and then you shall be baptised. This will open your gateway to heaven. Whereas a baby does not repent and it does not know who is jesus. So take my words seriously and get baptised soon for the time is short and JESUS is coming soon. Don't miss the rapture. By the way get baptised in a protestant church as they do it in a right manner than doing it in a catholic church. 😊
@@jesus4life196 read ACTS 8:35 - 38 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him."
The audience that Paul is speaking to in Acts baptized their entire families and continued to do so for centuries. More than 1,500 years later, people decided to stop doing that, declare themselves as interpreting Paul correctly, and in so doing proclaim that the audience right in front of him heard it incorrectly and Paul allowed them to do it incorrectly for the rest of his life. Crazy.
Exactly! Plus, in the old covenant babies were circumcised. They also went thru the baptism at the parting of The Red Sea and the various other forms/ways God's Word speaks of baptisms. Confirmation class is an outward accepting of their faith at around age 12. But they are allowed to be baptized Christians before that.
@Asaph Vapor Even if we don't count the numerous references to household baptisms. And we leave out Peter in Acts 2, saying that the promises of baptism were for your children...we could even ignore Jesus commanding us to baptize them as part of all nations. We would still be confronted with God's clear desire to baptize our children, based on who needs it, what is delivered thru it and who is acting in it.
@Asaph Vapor just to be as transparent as possible on RUclips comment sections: I have a family and a job, so pinging me for not responding within 24 hours of your comment is slightly silly. I mean, go ahead and do it if you think it strengthens your point or amplifies your scathing retort, but waxing eloquent about theology with strangers is firmly in the “when I got the time” category. Having said that, I commend you for requesting the chapter and verse, too many of these youtube theologians cite their opinions based on feelings and man-made traditions never cracking a bible. I thought the Great Commission and Peter’s sermon at Pentecost were well known enough to assume you had the verses. Thank you for the correction, I apologize for assuming. I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but you seem to advocate for some kind of age of accountability. Where exactly is the scriptural support for that position? As requested: Matthew 28:16-20, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.” (Children are included in the ALL) Acts 2:38-39, “38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”” (Peter explicitly includes children in the promises of Baptism.) As far as the baptism of households, the verses are: Cornelius (Acts 10 but specifically 10:47-48); Lydia (Acts 16:15); The Philippian jailor (Acts 16:33-34); Stephanas (1 Cor. 1:16). (The term Household is used throughout the scriptures to indicate everyone from infant to the infirm elderly, from the head of house to the youngest slave girl. If you are going to change the meaning of a term you need to have an overwhelming reason to do so.) Pax, Nge
@Asaph Vapor Interesting, you don't seem to be very intellectually consistent with your demands for explicit verses to support your doctrinal positions... You demand an explicit verse endorsing or describing infant baptism, but don't seem very bothered by the absence of scriptural support for the false doctrine of age of accountability. Bonus question: Do you deny women the Sacrament of Holy Communion? I ask because there is no verse or clear example of women taking part in communion in the bible.
The offense to people which causes them to not want to baptize their children, is really because they don’t understand Ephesians 2 where Paul says “while we were still God’s enemies Christ died for us.” Jesus didn’t wait until you were ready to accept Him to die for you and then accomplish your salvation for you. Babies can recieve gifts and they can be adopted and enter into a contract without even knowing it at the time. God adopted us as His sons and daughters, not because of righteous things we have done but because of His mercy.
Then why are there no recorded baptisms in the bible. In the bible it clearly said that the children were circumcised but when baptism is mentioned there is always a part where the person being baptized repents and then accepts the Lord, how can a baby or a small child repent or even accept God as their savior if they cant even discern good from evil without guidance from parents or other people. I would truly like to read your response as this discussion can not make either of us any less wise, but perhaps you or I can learn something.
@@augmentumstratus8434exactly. People fell to look at it from historical context and a social context on what was going on and that time and not what it's like now. When people back then converted they usually got baptized at the same time. That's because there was a body of water around somewhere to do it. It was coming back then. Yet babies were not baptized. I don't understand how people can clearly see past that one must already be a Christian to be baptized. And that means that one must confess or sins and repent and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Infants don't have the knowledge or to understand it to do that. When someone baptized an infant they're actually taking away something from that infant. Baptism is very personal and very intimate between the believer and Jesus Christ.. It is for the choice of the individual to get baptized and yet people fell to acknowledge that. We cannot make that choice for nobody else they must make it themselves
@@joshcardone1836 this is a topic I am beginning to study more deeply (currently would line up with believers baptism) but my question is what do we do with the child/adult who is a member of a Christian family but is mentally unable to repent and make a confession of faith? Do we just assume they are destined to hell therefore we should withhold baptism?
Where a household was baptized the Scripture states the following: "29 The jailer called for lights and ran to the dungeon and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas.30 Then he brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, along with everyone in your household. ”32 And they shared the word of the Lord with him and with all who lived in his household. 33 Even at that hour of the night, the jailer cared for them and washed their wounds. Then he and everyone in his household were immediately baptized 34 He brought them into his house and set a meal before them, and **he and his entire household rejoiced because they all believed** in God." Acts 16:29-34 (NLT) Thus unbelieving babies would not have been included.
Acts 2:38-39 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
Where does Scripture even imply that Baptism is "an outward sign of an inward expression"? Acts 2:38 literally says to "repent and be Baptized for the remission of sins." That flat out denies that Baptism is an empty symbol. Baptism is the Effectual Sign that brings us into Covenant with God, just like the Old Testament's circumcision.
Circumcision only resembles Baptism in minor ways. Circumcision is an outward sign easily checked. Like at lot of men my age (68) I am circumcised for hygienic reasons but not a Jew. Baptism doesn't show on the outside. Females are baptized. Circumcision had a prescribed ritual and time.
@@markhorton3994 Circumcision is literally connected to Baptism in the Epistle to the Colossians. Actually, "checking" circumcision is not really easy, given public decency. All of the rest of your arguments do not in the least challenge what I've said.
@@barelyprotestant5365 Your original argument that Baptism is not merely an outside sign but actually does something I am in agreement with. I am a confessional Lutheran, I believe that Baptism is the act by which God gives His Grace ie. Salvation. Necessary for salvation when possible. If Baptism is not possible (or someone delays too long) they still might be saved (God knows) but rejecting Baptism is rejecting salvation with all that implies. Since Baptism is an act of God, not man, I am of the opinion that infants should be baptized but that adults should believe first. My argument was that circumcision and Baptism are only slightly similar. It is easy to check circumcision, it just might not be socially convenient. I was talking about making a check not being able to tell at a glance.
No it’s absolutely not like the circumsision because if it was why did the early Jews who believed in Christ get circumcised and still get baptised of baptism was there to replace it. Baptism doesn’t bring us into a covenant it’s the expression that you’re welcoming Jesus Christ in your life AFTER you’ve repented of your sins. How can an infant repent and not only that but accept Jesus Christ? Your satanic catholic doctrine is clearly man made and was not practiced by the early church fathers. You need to repent
If you are a VIRGIN, Vatican bride, you must be a nun who has taken a vow of chastity. Only one virgin ever has or ever will give birth. You are not her.
@@vaticancitybride7137 God bless you for your service to Him. Ps. I am not Catholic but I appreciate the dedication of those who serve the Lord with all they are.
In the Old testament jews circumcized their babies at 8 days old to be part of the covenant. Hmmm. What harm can infant baptism have? I inherited the faith of my family thank God and was baptized under 2...thank God. As an Orthodox Christian I understand Jesus as love and fear him as God, thank God. As I grew and learned about other Faiths and churches I discovered how truely bless I am! I wish more people study the traditions of the early church fathers (apostles) to help guide them to understanding the scripture more before they "teach" holiness and speak of the union of God and his creation, may the Lord Almighty bless and forgive us always through Jesus works. Amen. I will definately baptize my children and keep icons in my house as a reminder that God did come in human form although close to 2000 years ago and is alive and watching us. many hugs and kisses to the brethren, truely love you much - no worries - God understands our heart, your brother if you choose to believe it - George
Which of the Two Baptisms is required for salvation? Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, as prescribed by the Old Covenant. Christ was water baptized by John and then received the Holy Spirit from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a New Covenant water baptism ceremony. The conversion process is described below. Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.) ============ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13) “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.) Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5) Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant - New Covenant) How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist? Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ? New Covenant water baptism is a beautiful ceremony which allows new believers to declare their conversion to the whole world.
What I don't like is how Baptists and some Non-denominational churches will not allow church membership for people baptized as infants in a Reformed or Presbyterian church. In fact, they do not consider infants baptized as part of the overall Church. However, Presbyterians and Reformed churches do. How do you deal with people baptized as infants trying to become a member of your church? Tell them to re-baptize by immersion?
@SuperReisiger Just out of curiosity, what exactly is the point of "biblical Baptism" in your church? I ask, because I've listened to a lot of baptists over the years and they use the term. The main problem is they never really seem to quote any verse in the bible except for the book of Acts. (And then they spend a lot of time like Rick Smith in the video, explaining how the bible doesn't actually mean what it clearly says...)
@SuperReisiger I did not say there was anything wrong with using the book of Acts. All scripture is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training. I was merely wondering why you wouldn't use the rest of the New Testament too. I always suspected the answer was to avoid having to come to the uncomfortable conclusion (for you that God is the one acting in Baptism not us. At the end of the day, Acts provides more than enough support for us to continue the biblical practice of baptizing our infants, (The monergistic view of baptism is fully supported in Acts and all but one of the household baptisms occur in Acts) but a richer fuller defense of our practice comes from using the entire bible. (The Psalms and Gospels say Infants & Children can have faith; throughout the entire scriptures household refers to infants to elderly; the epistles tell us again and again the gifts of baptism and those gifts can only come from God.) While it was nice to see you actually refer to some verses about baptism from the epistles, it was unfortunate to see you gut them and make them about you instead of God's grace. The problem with turning things into symbols, is how do you turn them back to actual comfort? Your mis-quote of Romans inserting baptism SYMBOLIZED Christ's death, burial and resurrection, is frightening. If we are only attached to His death and burial symbolically, are we only symbolically joined to His resurrectionl? How can you claim otherwise? That is worse than Rick Smith in the video, trying to explain how Peter didn't really mean to include 2 of the 3 groups mentioned as covered in the promises of baptism (Kids and those far off are out in the cold). I am glad that you seem to hold Baptism in high regard, it is a start. The more I read comments by evangelicals, the more I am struck by the dismissive attitude towards baptism that pervades your denomination. That is probably a natural out growth of viewing baptism as something you do and not on what Christ did for us. We essentially have two diametrically opposing views on baptism: You believe baptism is where YOU reach out of your sin & filth to grasp onto Christ and claim him as your personal Lord and Savior. I believe baptism is where Christ reaches down from heaven into my sin, filth, muck & mire: grasps me tight and claims me as God's child. I'd just ask whose grip do you trust more?
You asked several questions and it made organizing the reply difficult, I apologize if this format is confusing. Regarding the symbolic nature of baptism, i continue to disagree with you. Is means is until the Holy Spirit says otherwise. Paul doesn't say our baptisms are symbolic, he says our baptism unite us with Christ and his death and resurrection. And again, if the first two are only symbolic, how can the third not be? SuperReisiger: Are you in a cult that teaches that every baby you sprinkle makes them a child of God? ANSWER: Thats not a cult, that's biblical Christianity. Are you in some sort of heretical sect that claims there is another way to salvation besides faith in Christ? My denomination bases our doctrine on what the bible says, not on what we wish it did. You should try it, instead of reading verses you don't like/understand as only symbolic. SuperReisiger: Where does the Bible say you can sprinkle instead of Baptise(immerse)? ANSWER: Actually the correct question should be, where does the bible demand immersion? The word in koine Greek means wash and CAN mean immerse. Mark 7:4 says the Pharisees wouldn't eat until they had washed (baptized) themselves, their cups, pots and COUCHES. Where did they get that much water in ancient Israel? Speaking of which, at Pentecost where could they baptize the 3000 new converts by immersion in Jerusalem? Granted this last one is not a biblical source, but the Didache is a very early church document (~50-120. AD) and it describes baptizing converts in rivers or standing water OR by pouring water on the head. SuperReisiger: Do you presume salvation for each babt? ANSWER: That is an interesting question coming from you, isn't that YOUR doctrine? Correct me if I'm wrong about your theology, but don't you believe that infants & children are innocent until some mythical age of accountability? That sounds like presumed salvation to me...unless you want to invent a holding pen for the youthful departed (e.g. purgatory). There are numerous verses through out the New Testament that say we are saved by faith, if your position is that infants and young children can't have faith, you have two options: all children that die are condemned OR once again you have to claim that the bible doesn't mean what it clearly says about faith in Christ being the only way to eternal life. But to answer your question: yes, I believe God honors His promises in baptism. We must trust in God's mercy and love for the children of believers who mistakenly denied their children His gift prior to their deaths. SuperReisiger: Are they in the new covenant? ANSWER: Given the fact that their baptism incorporates them into the name of the Triune God(Matthew 28); clothes them in Christ (Galatians 3); adopts them as God's children(Galatians 4); forgives their sins(Acts 2); sactifies and cleans them (1 Cor 6); unites them to Christ's death, burial and resurrection (Rom 6); washes us with the regeneration of new birth (Titus 3) and Saves us(1 Peter 3): yep, I'd put them squarely in God's new covenant. SuperReisiger: Where is your bible verses that say you should baptised babies? ANSWER: Well, babies would fit inside Jesus' "All Nations" criteria. They would also fit in Peter's words that baptismal promises were for "our children". And the whole house hold baptisms...to heck with this, YOU TELL ME where is your verse to deny babies baptism? Infant baptism is a result of understanding what baptism is (See prior answer). Who is acting in baptism (Only God can do those things) Who needs baptism? (everyone, Romans 3:23 & sinful babies Psalm 51) Our Faith comes from God. (Ephesians 2) Infants/Children can have faith. (Psalm 22:9-10 / Psalm 71:5-6 / 2 Timothy 3:14-15 / St Luke 1:15 & 41 / St Matthew 21:15-16 ) SuperReisiger: What denomination are you anyway, seams like you are quick to criticise but don't give any substance for an alternative few. ANSWER: I'm a confessional lutheran. All I did was ask a few pointed questions, you were the one who jumped right to attacks, implying I was in a cult because I disagreed with your beliefs. Hopefully this helps explain my views a bit better. SuperReisiger: O and where in the Old Testament do you get verses that speak on New Covenant baptism? ANSWER: Reading comprehension brother... my comment was that the concepts that support infant baptism are found through out the bible. 1. I gave you a few verses above from the Old and New Testament that show infants and children can have faith. 2. The Old and New Testament both teach we are ALL sinful. 3. The Old Testament uses the term Household to refer to the entire family from babes to infirm grandparents, why would the Holy Spirit suddenly change course and use the term to mean everyone in the family, except young children?
@SuperReisiger No, I completely understand the symbolism you are referring too. You are more focused on the illustration of immersing in and emerging from the water than what God is doing in your Baptism. My focus is on what the bible says God does at Baptism(forgiveness of sins, adoption, the whole list you ignored in my last comment.) I don't understand why you think I believe salvation rests on anything but my faith in Christ's death for my sins. I've been trying to tell you, that is exactly what baptism joins me to. Thank you for your love and concern. I share it for you. Your denial that infants & children can have faith is basically calling Jesus and the Holy Spirit liars. I've already gave you some of the verses that show their faith. Further more you chose to pit scripture against itself rather than submit to it. The angel didn't say with God all things are possibla... except grant children faith. You ignored my question of what you presume for each baby. You seemed to deny/mock my belief that God will honor His baptismal promises to babies. I'd like to know what is your belief of what happens to infants & young children when they die?
The answer is no! You are NOT supposed to baptize babies. The person has to willingly and voluntarily CHOOSE to have yourself baptized. Baptize means to immerse, NOT sprinkle or pour.
Acts 2:38-39 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
I don't see anything wrong with with parents baptizing their babies they want to do that that's their business but I do think that these creatures that take the baby shake them and don't them and put them back in shake them and dump them should be charged with abuse that's no way to baptize a baby
Believing in infant baptism does not deny believers baptism. R.C. Sproul has a solid biblical argument for infant baptism. Doug Wilson changed his views. The view shared here is not wrong but neither is one that believes in infant baptism. What is important is that water baptism DOES NOT SAVE.
Christ frequently talks about the innocence of children. If you're going to question him and call him a liar, go ahead all you want. But I'm telling you right now it is categorically a possible for a two-week-old, two-year-old, or even a four-year-old to understand that they have committed sin because they haven't. They are innocent and until they can fully comprehend the mechanism of separating yourself from God. Which they have not done yet, remission of sins is not called for. You question the immutable Grace and cause of God when you take the most innocent and ascribed to them sinful Acts. Something they cannot commit.
44 Hawk being sinful is a heart condition. Death is the mark of sin and babies can die. The reason is that they are born sinners and therefore are in need of forgiveness. There is no words of Jesus which say children are innocent. When he told his disciples to come like the little children he was saying that they need to come needy. Also notice that they the children didn’t bring themselves and that there were little ones and infants ...... “hint, hint”
@@villarrealmarta6103 telling them to come as little children because little children are indeed innocent. That's why he was moving his lips. He was trying to give them a lesson. Amazing how you disprove your own statement. Children are not born sinners. That is a monitor that man puts on them, not God.
44 Hawk Because we are born sinners, we must experience a second, spiritual birth. We are born once into Adam’s family and are sinners by nature. When we are born again, we are born into God’s family and are given the nature of Christ. We praise the Lord that “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -children born not of natural descent . . . but born of God”
44 Hawk The Kingdom belongs to such as these; it is of such as these that the kingdom of God is made up, of children and of such as have childlike, simple faith in Jesus the Savior. It is a powerful declaration concerning the ability of the children to grasp and know the essential truths pertaining to their salvation in a much better and surer way than that usually chosen by the adults. This truth He states also from the other side, confirming His declaration with a solemn oath. If anyone does not accept the kingdom of God, Jesus the Savior, and the faith in Him which the Holy Spirit works in the heart, as a little child, he shall not enter that kingdom. And to emphasize His words still more strongly, the Lord did not hesitate to take the little ones up into His arms and into His bosom, and to bless them with the laying on of hands. "These verses no one will take from us; nor contradict them with valid reasons. For here it says that Christ wants it unforbidden to bring children to Him, yea, He commands them to be brought to Him, and He blesses them and gives them the kingdom of heaven; let us mark that well." 42) It is also worth while, at this point, to note what a Reformed commentator writes: "Though little children, they were capable of receiving Christ's blessings. If Christ embraced them, why should not His Church embrace them? Why not dedicate them to God by Baptism? - whether that be performed by sprinkling, washing, or immersion; for we need not dispute about the mode: on this point let everyone be fully persuaded in his own mind. I confess it appears to me grossly heathenish and barbarous to see parents who profess to believe in that Christ who loves children, and among them those whose creed does not prevent them from using infant baptism, depriving their children of an ordinance by which no soul can prove that they cannot be profited, and, through an unaccountable bigotry or carelessness, withholding from them the privilege of even a nominal dedication to God; and yet these very persons are ready enough to fly for a minister to baptize their child when they suppose it to be at the point of death!"
44 Hawk how did I disprove my own statement? When Jesus said come to me like little children he was showing them that the little children didn’t come by their own power but rather by their mothers. Therefore he says; you are not with me because of your own power, but by my calling you. We are not believers by our own choosing but rather by grace undeserved God has chosen us. This language is all over scripture so that you can’t deny it, and yet you do.
If we are to defer to God's word rather than what seems to 'make sense' or 'feels good', than infant or baby baptism is nothing more than getting them wet. God does not accept the "dedication of a child" to him, nor is holy spirit dispensed when parents perform this ritual. In view of the fact that "hearing the word," "embracing the word heartily," and "repenting" proceed water baptism (Acts 2:14, 22, 38, 41) and that baptism requires the individual to make a solid decision, it is apparent that one must at least be of age to hear, to believe, and to make this decision. An argument is made by some in favor of infant baptism. They refer to the instances where 'households' were baptized, such as the households of Cornelius, Lydia, the Philippian jailer, Crispus, and Stephanas. (Acts 10:48; 11:14; 16:15, 32-34; 18:8; 1Cor 1:16) they believe that this implies that small babies in those families were also baptized. But, in the case of Cornelius, those who were baptized were those who had heard the word and received the Holy Spirit, and they spoke in tongues and glorified God; these things could not apply to infants. (Acts 10:44-46) Lydia was "a worshipper of God, ...and God opened her heart wide to pay attention to the things being spoken by Paul." (Acts 26:14) The Philippian jailer had to "believe on the Lord Jesus," and this implies that the others in his family also had to believe in order to be baptized. (Acts 16:31-34) "Crispus the presiding officer of the synagogue became a believer in the Lord, and so did all his household." (Acts 18:8) all of this demonstrates that associated with baptism we're such things as hearing, believing, and glorifying God, things infants cannot do. At Samaria when they heard and believed "the good news of the kingdom of God and of the name of Jesus Christ, they proceeded to be baptized." Here the Scriptural record specifies that the ones baptized were, not infants, but "men and women." (Acts 8:12) The statement made by the Apostle Paul to the Corinthians that children were "holy" by reason of a believing parent is no proof that infants were baptized; rather, it implies the opposite. Minor children too young to have the ability to make such a decision would come under a form of merit because of the believing parent, not because of any so-called sacramental baptism, imparting independent merit. If infants could properly be baptized they would not need to have the Merit of the bleeding parent extended to them. (1st Corinthians 7:14) It is true that Jesus said: "Stop hindering [the young children] from coming to me, for the kingdom of the heavens belongs to suchlike ones." (Matthew 19:13-15; Mark 10:13-16) But they were not baptized. Jesus blessed them, and there is nothing to indicate that his laying his hands upon them was a religious ceremony. He further showed that the reason 'the kingdom of God belongs to such' was not because they were baptized but because they were teachable and trusting. Christians are commanded to be "babes as to badness, yet full-grown in powers of understanding." (Matthew 18:4, Luke 18:16, 17, 1st Corinthians 14:20)
Jews were circumsized 8days after birth which brought infants into God's covenant. We are born into sin due to Adam and Eve and we have to be cleansed from their sin. According to the scripture Jesus never baptized people during his ministry. Baptizing infants bring them into the new covenant.
At 3:55 he says many circumsized or baptized when they were extremely young never followed the God of their fathers. So what?!? Likewise for many that were baptized as adults!
You are saved by Gods grace through faith... Only BY HIS GRACE NOT BY ANY WORK (DONE BY HUMAN). SO KEEP YOUR FAITH AND PRAY FOR GODS GRACE. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TOWARDS SALVATION. NOTHING ELSE WILL SAVE YOU. NOT EVEN BAPTISM....
How about this question.. who can baptize? I've seen churches allow moms, dads, spiritual mentors, etc baptize other people. Is that biblical, any examples seen in the bible? Is this just reserved for pastors, etc?
Jordan Hanger - The only mandate to baptize someone is that the person who is doing the baptizing is a Christian. We have lots of dads baptizing their children, husbands baptizing wives, mentors / leaders baptizing the folks they were leading / mentoring, etc. In a way, everyone who is a Christian is a "pastor." They are all called to lead / love / and pour into others.
Jesus says, "unless you become like children you cannot enter the kingdom of God!!" Adults need to be taught to repent, to realise that they have nothing to offer God, just like the little children. Through teaching adults need to come into the receptive mode little children are already in. So, that is why Jesus refers to His disciples as "little ones" as "poor in the Spirit" because they depend completely on Him! Therefore, in this sense one can say: Jesus teaches to only baptise "little ones"! Baptism is a gift of God by water and the word! Baptism is not a work the human being does to himself. You cannot baptise yourself! Look at the verbs being used together with baptism passages: they are all in the passive mode, at least in the Greek. Baptism is a gift we receive from God using His servant of the word. Babies are absolute examples of receiving gifts.
At 4:30 (your countdown), that Bible text is addressed to ADULTS. During Biblical times, Christianity had yet to establish a stable multi-generational existence. Give me one example of someone who was Baptized in the Bible who was raised by Christian parents. You can't - it never happened.
The centurion who asked Jesus to save and heal his daughter. The households of believers who were baptized. God loved John the baptist while he was in his mother’s womb. The apostles baptized children and taught their disciples to baptize children.
I strongly disagree with this. I was baptised as a baby. I still have my Catholic baptismal certificate. It actually reads that through this baptism the original sin of Adam & Eve was annulled which is ridiculous. Another thing is that I was repeatedly told I'm Catholic even if I said I don't believe in God. It is my believe that only adults should ever be baptised and by their own free will, being at an age where they can choose and being fully aware of their own choice.
Baptism is an act of God in which He delivers the Grace that saves. By being descendants of the first Adam (which means man) we are all guilty. If infants are sinless and don't need salvation, when do we become responsible for our sins?
Mark Horton infants are sinful. Death is the mark of sin and babies as we all know can die like adults. We are all born in sin and separated from God. That’s why we need to be born again, which is God’s work also.
@@villarrealmarta6103 Of course. I was trying to get the people who believe that infants are innocent to think. If infants were sinless ( they are not) they would become sinners like adults at some point. That should be a problem for those who don't baptize infants.
Then why are there no recorded baptisms in the bible. In the bible it clearly said that the children were circumcised but when baptism is mentioned there is always a part where the person being baptized repents and then accepts the Lord, how can a baby or a small child repent or even accept God as their savior if they cant even discern good from evil without guidance from parents or other people. I would truly like to read your response as this discussion can not make either of us any less wise, but perhaps you or I can learn something.
Abraham's children were circumcised and were obligated to follow the Lord. It was not a sign of faith on their part as it was to Abraham, but a sign of works to be done without the grace to perform. Gen 18:19 "For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him." The Reformed analogy of circumcision corresponding to infant baptism under the New Covenant can not be based on this principle of works which was obligated to the natural seed of Abraham and those who followed under the Mosaic covenant. Infant baptism imposes a works ethic of both deed and conscience on the unregenerate child, and may also give one a false sense of righteousness. The fact that males and not females are circumcised turns this Reformed doctrine of comparison on its head.
@@ciso5765 there's only 1 true Bible. The WORD OF GOD. Catholicism has stepped beyond Gods word and added in their own. Teaching false doctrines and heresies.
Scripture NEVER points to baptism as an outward expression or sign of an inward change. It always points to the time that God does what He promised He would do when we obey. He removes our sin by the blood of Christ. It is correct that we can not earn or do anything thing to earn our salvation but baptism is not our work! Baptism is the working of God Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead. Galatians 2:20 says Christians have been crucified with Christ...I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. Romans 6 illustrates this: Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life. 5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with,[a] that we should no longer be slaves to sin- 7 because anyone who has died has been set free from sin. Now...show me where it says its and outward sign of an inward change!! You will not find it! Your repentant changed life is the outward sign.
Grace And Peace. ALL who practice "water" (Thoroughly Confused about it!), have Not Yet _faced up to_ And "answered" The Important Question: *Does God REQUIRE* "water" baptism to be "practiced" *Today, Under HIS GRACE!* ? IF "yes," Only then take on The Daunting Task of "repairing" ALL Confusion As To: WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, And WHY! Correct? IF *God's Answer IS "NO!," Then ALL* "The Controversy, Contradictions, And CONFUSION" *Will IMMEDIATELY Cease To Exist!* Amen? i "studied" this FULLY, Prayerfully, And Carefully, And agree with the latter. ( FULL "study" available, IF you "wish"...) bro Chris
Psalm 119:130 says "The unfolding of Your words gives light; It gives understanding to the simple." 1 Corinthians 14:33 says "for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints." Therefore, if you are confused, you are not listening to God. Lets see just how simple it is by 1. Trusting that God is not the author of confusion and 2. Trusting what we can confirm in a simple manner, His will by unfolding His words. The day the church began. Peter preached Jesus to the Jews who were in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost. Once they heard about Jesus and believed Peter they asked a very simple question. "What must we do?" ACTS 2:37-41" Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?” Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself.” And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation!” So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls." What did he tell them to do and why? What was promised to them if they obeyed? Next Paul's conversion in his own words. After he had seen Jesus, called Him Lord and fasted and prayed for three days in Damascus, here is what he says he was told to do to remove his sin. ACTS 22:16 " Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.’" 1 Peter 3:19-21 "He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ", According to 1 Peter baptism does now save by cleaning of sin through the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is God who does the work of removing our sin AT our baptism into Christ Colossians 2:12-14 "having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross." It is at our baptism that God does His work in us because of our trust in Him. Only those who are baptized receive this: Romans 6:3-11 "Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus." God does not confuse, man does. Man wants to point out scripture to fit his narrative of religion. Example. John 3:16 is the most quoted verse in the bible. "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." We can stop here and make that the entire gospel but we would be false teachers if we did. In this very same letter just a few verses later John says this in verse 36. "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him." So, when we unfold Gods work we see it's not confusing at all. We also see that obedience to Jesus' commands is required. Jesus said this in the very same letter. John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." Not confusing at all is it?
Grace And Peace. Thanks for the Great Discussion. I don't believe that I, but *God, REMOVED HIS Requirement For "water" baptism For The Remission* *Of sins, Under HIS "New Dispensation Of GRACE (NO "works!"), For us Today!* But, first, we'll look at: "The Church (of Today!) _began_ at Pentecost." Many _presume_ this, and then, since it contains "water," Thus, we have ALL The abounding "Confusion!". However, *The Body Of CHRIST was UNKNOWN then, And ONLY "Revealed* *By CHRIST, **_From HEAVEN,"_** to Paul, THE FIRST one BAPTIZED "Into CHRIST,"* *""BY"" The ONE Spirit, so It IS Correct To teach "It IS God's OPERATION!," The* *ONE And ONLY Baptism **_For today!_* *(Ephesians 4 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13; Colossians 2 : 10-12!)* Personally, i LEFT The "watered" down message *Of GRACE,* in IFB, Because of their BAD MATH = *ONE Spirit Baptism!* + "water" baptism = TWO baptismS, Correct? *(Ephesians 4 : 5!!)* ------------------------------------------- Under The LAW!: Now, "Back To Pentecost!" (As MANY Are "calling" for today!), AND thus, "adding" to ALL The Confusion!!: (1) *This "Holy Spirit Baptism" IS NOT "BY," But IT IS "WITH!"* Thus, *There IS A Very LARGE **_Difference!_* Is there not? *CHRIST Himself* *IS THE "Administrator" Of "This WITH" Baptism, Sending The Holy Ghost* *Upon The Jews For: "power As HIS witnesses!"* Correct? (2) *This WITH" Baptism Occurred Only AFTER* they were "water" baptized (in Obedience!) FOR THE REMISSION Of sins!!! Pentecost had TWO baptismS! { surely, ALL "expert" Bible students Can Find ALL The Verses "proving" this? } Thus, this "ekklesia" is The Jewish Messianic church, a "political" kingdom "assembly!" *_On The EARTH!_* { The OLD "Dispensation" *Now Held In Abeyance, By God,* WHEN HIS "Chosen" NATION, Of *"Israel FELL!" (Romans 11 :11!)...* LAW! Correct? { Please STOP "Mixing" LAW "With" *GRACE!* }, but GET THEM: *Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From **_"Things That DIFFER!:"_* *...God Ushering In HIS "NEW Dispensation Of GRACE!"* *(Kept SECRET "In God!" = MYSTERY!)* *GRACE!: The Church, The Body Of CHRIST, IS The ONE "NEW" man, (BOTH* *(Jew AND Gentile!), Of Today! - - This "ekklesia" Is "A Spiritual Organism!"* *Seated In The HEAVENLIES! (Romans - Philemon!) Again, BIG "Difference!"* *(1) "Began" With CHRIST Appearing To HIS "Worst enemy," Paul, And* *Saving* him *"BY" Pure GRACE (NO "works!"), And MERCY!* on the road to Damascus! *(Acts 9!!)* *(2) Paul is "THE Pattern" For ALL, In { LongSuffering } GRACE, who would* *"HereAfter Be SAVED!" ( THE "FIRST" = 1 Timothy 1 : 16!)* { compare "Peter's acknowledgment" *Of God's "CHANGE!" in Acts 15 : 11,* *Because Of "God's ACTION" In Acts 10 : 36-46, BEFORE "water" baptism! }* Amen? { Thus "Demolishing" ( *For The GRACE Dispensation!* ), the "pattern" of The "Law Saving water *(Luke 7 : 29-30!)* baptism" Of Pentecost! Correct? } *(3) The Simplicity Of CHRIST!, Under GRACE!!:* *(A) sinners Repent/Place 100% faith In CHRIST, HIS BLOOD,* *And HIS Resurrection! = ETERNAL Salvation!* Amen? *(B) saints love/worship God And love their neighbor!* *(Fulfilling ALL The Law! Romans 14!) { Thus, NO More Need for* *"arguing/debating" Law, Sabbath, diet, etc. }* *(C) CHRIST Himself Comes To "Gather To Himself," ALL Of HIS Body* *(When "Complete!"), And Take them To HEAVEN, For JUDGMENT* *And serving/reigning With HIM! (1 Corinthians 15 : 51-57, 3 : 8-15;* *1 Thessalonians 4 : 13-18; 2 Corinthians 5 : 1!)* *Redemption/GLORIFICATION Of HIS Body!!* Amen? ♫😇↑ simple ABC's? --------------------------- And Then, AFTER ( *The MYSTERY "Closes,"* ), that (Prophecy) which *Was "Held In Abeyance"...* Continues: *God Finally Fulfilling, FOR Israel,* Daniel's 70th Week, Time Of JACOB's Trouble! (Daniel, Matthew, And Revelation!) Conclusion: *Confusion "Completely Conquered!" Amen?* bro Chris (FULL "study" Of *ALL (13) baptismS* still "available" - - IF you "wish"...)
I am willing to accept that if you can show me scripture to illustrate the removal of this requirement. I keep hearing this but no one will show me scripture pointing to the removal of this requirement. The works referred to in scripture are pointing to the works of the Law from what I can see. Are you saying john is wrong in requirement of obedience? How about repentance, is this not required? These are serious questions I would like answered with scripture to backup views.
He didn't engage at all with the theology behind the reasons why presbyterians baptize their babies. If Baptism is only the outward sign of faith, then why did Jesus get baptized? And the old baptist argument that believers should be baptized collapses when you realize that there is a lot of non regenerates in baptist churches. He would get embarrased in a debate with Sproul , DeYoung or Pratt.
*GRACE And Peace From God, The Father, And, From The LORD JESUS CHRIST!* Note: without *God's Holy Spirit,* it will Be IMPOSSIBLE to "understand" *God's "Baptisms" Doctrine (1 Corinthians 2 : 13-14!),* so, *The Following!* Must Occur FIRST! Amen?: *God's GREATEST News Ever = HIS Gospel Of The Amazing GRACE Of God!* For ALL who have NOT YET *Been WASHED IN THE BLOOD!* Do you Desire ETERNAL Condemnation? If so, then just please "remain" as you are - In "UNbelief": 😢 ↓ (Luke 18 : 11-12!) for ALL others who wish to be "humble" ♫😇↑ (Luke 18 : 13-14!): *FAITH Cometh By hearing, And hearing By The Word Of God!:* Amen?: *(ALL Scriptures From God's Preserved WORD = KJV! ##)* *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God! = God's ETERNAL Salvation! By:* 100% faith (heart belief, trust!) in *The LORD JESUS CHRIST,* *In HIS Blood, And In HIS Resurrection! = God's ETERNAL Life!!* *(Romans 10 : 17; 1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4 And Ephesians 2 : 5-10!)* *Good Works Will Not Save you, But Will Get you Rewards At:* *The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)* ***Note1: Verse 15! Teaches ETERNAL SALVATION "Despite Loss!"*** ***Note2: IF you just BELIEVED This AND your Are The LAST "member"* *Of The Body Of CHRIST, we Are Going To Be Raptured Outta Here,* *so, learn This Right NOW, And you Will Receive A crown At Judgment!:*** *"Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,* *Which The LORD, The Righteous Judge, Shall Give me At That Day:* *And not to me only, but unto All them also that love HIS Appearing!"* *(2 Timothy 4 : 8!)* Amen? --------------------------------------------- IF you are in any "religion" with ONE "false doctrine," it is UNclean!, Please *Obey God, WHO Commands:* *"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, Saith* *The LORD, And touch not the unclean thing; and I Will Receive you,* *And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,* *Saith The LORD Almighty!" (2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Therefore: *God's ETERNAL Salvation Is THE Best Motivation For "true"* *believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!* rather than "serving out of FEAR" of "losing Probationary" salvation!: *"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,* *And of love, and of a sound mind!" (1 Timothy 1 : 7!)* ------------------------------------------------------------------- continued in *God's THIRTEEN (13) Scriptural Baptisms!...*
Truth 1_7 = *THIRTEEN (13) Scriptural Baptisms* GRACE And Peace To ALL Of *God's Diligent Bible students!* Mostly *Scripture!,* with some "thought-for-food" questions placed at appropriate points, for your prayerful/careful "consideration." Because of "the Mainstream "practice"" of "denominational "fragmented And Pet" verses supposedly "teaching" "their particular view of ""water"" baptism: This *Bible study* attempts, For *The Honor And Glory Of God, to Present ALL Of* *HIS Scriptural Evidence For HIS Truth For us TODAY! After ALL, HE Did Exhort:* *"ALL SCRIPTURE Is Given By Inspiration Of God, And Is Profitable For* *doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:* *that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished Unto* *ALL good works!" (2 Timothy 3 : 16-17!)* We hope And pray that Any And ALL "confused" over the "Division of Many Over ""water, "" will be Truly Blessed With This *Solving The Confusion study!* If I "happened" to "miss" Anything, please kindly "let me know." God Bless ALL! *ALL Glory And Honor To HIM!* Amen?: Truth 1_7 OutLine: 1_7a = *Twelve (12) Scriptural Baptisms* *Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!)* From: 1_7b = *ONE (1) Scriptural Baptism*
Truth 1_7a *Twelve (12) Scriptural Baptisms* *LORD JESUS, Thank you so much for Your LOVE to us. We need* *SuperNatural Help today, so, please Forgive us where we have* *“misunderstood” Thy Word, and “failed” You. We humbly ask for* *The Enlightenment Of Your Wonderful Teacher To us, The Blessed* *Holy Spirit, to Grant us Peace as we obey Your Precious Word And* *Endeavor For Unity to solve the horrible confusion which has Your* *Body, The Church, all divided up. In Your Blessed Name we pray.* Amen. --------------------------------------------------------------- Does *God Require For us TODAY!* one or more of these?: *Twelve (12) baptisms!* in: The Prophetic Program of God (For HIS Nation Israel Under LAW): 1. Noah’s type {figurative} baptism (Genesis 6 : 13; 1 Peter 3 : 20-21) Peter, the apostle to the circumcision (Jews), writes to the “elect strangers,” (ch 1 vs 1-2) And mentions to them that eight people were “saved by water!” Did “water” baptism “save” the Jews? 2. Baptism unto Moses (Exodus 14 : 29; 1 Corinthians 10 : 12) Paul presents Israel’s baptism unto Moses “in the cloud and in the sea!” Saving “baptism” or spiritual “identification” with God’s leader of HIS people? ------------------------------ (various *washings! Greek: Baptismos* = Hebrews 9 : 10): 3. Israel’s ceremonial cleansings (Exodus 19 : 14, 30 : 17-21; Leviticus 11 : 25; Numbers 19 : 13) These cleansing rituals were required under the Mosaic Law for the cleansing of the people. ====== *4. Levitical priesthood baptism (Exodus 29 : 4;* *Leviticus 8 : 6; Numbers 8 : 7) This washing was The First* *Requirement in order to become a priest under the Law of Moses!* *Is this baptism in any way "connected" to # 9?* ====== 5. Traditional Jewish baptisms (Matthew 15 : 12; Mark 7 : 19; Luke 11 : 38) These washings were not mandated under the Law but were part of Jewish tradition. ---------------- 6. *JESUS’ Baptism* by John (Matthew 3 : 13-17; Mark 1 : 9-10) *JESUS,* *Who Knew NO sin, Was Baptized by John to Fulfill All Righteousness!* 7. *JESUS’ Baptism* With Fire (Isaiah 4 : 4; Malachi 3 :23; Matthew 3 : 11; Luke 3 : 16) *JESUS Will Baptize the nation of Israel with fire when they are in* *Great Tribulation in the Time Of Jacob’s Trouble!* (Is this also for the “chaff” when separated from the wheat?) 8. *JESUS’ Baptism Unto Death!* (Matthew 20 : 22-23; Mark 10 : 38-39; Luke 12 : 50) *JESUS’ Second Baptism Which HE Accomplished On The Cross, Where* *HE Was Identified With the sins of Israel, as well as the rest of the world!* =============== 9. baptism of repentance that John preached (Before The Cross), And Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach! (Mt 3 : 5-6; Mk 1 : 4; Luke 3 : 3; John 1 : 31; *Luke 7 : 29-30;* Acts 10 : 37) (Acts 2 : 38; Mk 16 : 16; Mt 28 : 19; Acts 22 : 16; Eze 36 : 25) Does this baptism “save” anyone? *(Luke 7 : 29-30?)* Is this baptism “for today”? *Is this baptism in any way "connected" to # 4? Wasn't John "preparing"* *National Israel for God's Promise of a "nation of priests unto God"?* *And, What Was The First Requirement for "induction"? Washing, correct?* { may require re-review of *baptism #4!* } 10. Pentecostal Spirit baptism This is the baptism *WITH The Holy Spirit By* *JESUS CHRIST* from heaven poured out upon the believing remnant of Israel with signs and powers following. (Isaiah 44 : 3; Matthew 3 : 11; Mark 1 : 8, 16 : 17-18; Luke 24 : 49; Acts 2 : 17-18, 38; Acts 8 : 15-17; Acts 11 : 16) *And, The Other Requirement For "priesthood induction" = anointing, correct?* ===================== 11. Gentile baptism(s) of Cornelius (Acts 10 : 45-48; 15 : 9-11) Cornelius was baptized *WITH The Holy Spirit as a “sign” from* *God* to Peter. Peter subsequently baptizes Cornelius and the other Spirit-filled Gentiles with water. {"Not" saved by water?) -------------------------------------------- 12. Baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15 : 29) No sound “interpretation” (I don’t think) has yet to be offered for this! {Mormons are kept in “busy bondage” using this connected with *“endless genealogies" #,* to “supposedly” SAVE those already passed in death! *This "theory" Has NO “Scriptural” Basis, As It Is* *“appointed once to die, and after that = Judgment!” ##* All sinners need to make the correct decision “in THIS life, BEFORE Death Occurs!} *(# FORBIDDEN = 1Timothy 1 : 4; ## death/judgment = Hebrews 9 : 27)* ======================================================== *End of “The Twelve (12) baptisms” Of God’s Prophetic Program!* --------------------------------------------------- *Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!)* From… --------------------------------------------------- *God's Revelation Of The Mystery {for Jews And Gentiles, Under GRACE}:* *Bible Baptism # 13:* = Continued in Next Post = Truth 1_7b *ONE (1) Scriptural Baptism!*
Truth 1_7b *ONE (1) Scriptural Baptism* Previously we studied/reviewed the *12 Bible Baptisms Of God,* Found In: The Prophetic Program of God (For HIS Nation Israel Under LAW)! We hope And pray that ALL "humble" students, Of *God's HOLY Word!,* still have "their Final Verdict on hold!," if you will, Until *ALL Of The* *Rest Of God's Evidence* has been "presented" for Consideration: Let us Now Prayerfully Review, With *God's Mandate Of Rightly!* *Dividing HIS Precious Word Of Truth, In Order To Be Approved Unto HIM!:* *LORD JESUS, we again humbly come before you and ask for You to* *open our understanding Of Your Precious And HOLY Word. Thanks.* Amen. *God's ONE Baptism! Found In:* *God's Revelation Of The Mystery {for Jews And Gentiles, Under GRACE}:* For us, “today” = *ONE Baptism Into {The Body Of} CHRIST:* *The Only Baptism taught by Paul, Which “spiritually Identifies”* *the believer With CHRIST, His Death, and His Resurrection!* *This Baptism Is Performed BY The Holy Spirit* and does Not include "water." *It Is The Operation Of God!* (Ephesians 4 : 5; Colossians 2 : 12; Galatians 3 : 27; Romans 6 : 3-4; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13!) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Expanded Version, For your *Edification/spiritual Building Up!,* follows: *God’s Doctrine of ONE Baptism Under HIS GRACE!* Grace and Peace! To ALL Dear Readers who have “persevered” through the many previous “baptisms,” and have come to this point of “weighing” *ALL Of God’s Scriptural Evidence In* *HIS Very Important Doctrine Of Baptisms!* Is *God’s Doctrine of ONE Baptism* {as many "think"}, water? *We are "spiritually identified with" (baptized into) CHRIST, His* *Crucifixion, His Death, His Burial, and His Resurrection!* (Sounds like *The Greatest News* I've Ever heard!), so… *...some of The Confirming Scriptures:* *Romans 6 : 3 ...Baptized Into JESUS CHRIST...Baptized Into HIS Death!* *Romans 6 : 4 ...Buried With HIM By Baptism Into Death!* *Romans 6 : 6 ...Crucified (JESUS' Baptism?) With HIM!* - And also: *“For as many of you as Have Been BAPTIZED Into* *CHRIST Have Put On CHRIST!”* (Galatians 3 : 27) { Major NOTE: NO “water” Found “In The Context” Of Any Of *These Baptism Passages!* } Agree? *With The SuperNatural Help Of The Blessed Holy Spirit, And Comparing* *spiritual Scripture WITH spiritual Scriptures (1 Corinthians 2 : 13),* *This Baptism Makes us "spiritually":* *“COMPLETE In HIM, WHO Is The Head Of* *ALL principality and power!” (Colossians 2 : 10!)* *“...The Circumcision Made WITHOUT HANDS { God’s Operation? }* *...The Circumcision Of CHRIST!” (Colossians 2 : 11!)* *“Buried With HIM In BAPTISM, Wherein Also ye Are Risen With* *HIM Through The Faith [ Faithfulness ] Of THE OPERATION Of God,* *WHO Hath RAISED HIM From The Dead!” (Colossians 2 : 12!),* AND, *“Not by works of righteousness which we have done,* *But According To His Mercy HE SAVED us By The* *WASHING of REGENERATION {God’s Operation?},* *And RENEWING Of The Holy Ghost!” (Titus 3 : 5!)* *“Which HE Shed on us Abundantly Through* *JESUS CHRIST our SAVIOUR!” (Titus 3 : 6!)* This Should *“Complete The ‘Spiritual’ OPERATION” of The Triune* *GodHead,* BUT, Are we done *“Comparing ALL The Scriptures”* *Of The ONE Baptism?* We see That, In *The Revelation Of The Mystery (Gospel Of GRACE For* *“us Today”),* a Prayerful and Careful study, *Rightly Divided, God Teaches:* *Ephesians 4 : 5 - “...One LORD, one faith, ONE BAPTISM...”* So, *What Saith The Scriptures “In It's Context,” About The* *ONE Baptism?:* *“Endeavouring to keep The Unity Of The Spirit in the bond of peace!* *There is one Body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope* *of your calling; One LORD, one faith, ONE Baptism, One God and Father* *of ALL, Who Is Above ALL, and through ALL, and in you ALL!”* *(Ephesians 4 : 3-6)* {Are we All Really "endeavouring for this *"Unity"”?}* Now, unless we are mistaken, there are 3 choices of understanding: 1) all “physical” = Destruction of “the context”, agreed? 2) “combo” of 6 Spiritual + 1 “physical,” lifted “out, and” “isolated” from the context, to be interpreted as “water” baptism = Destruction of the context, agreed? 3) *These Seven Unities of God's Spirit are All “Spiritual,”* so now we kindly/humbly ask, Is *God’s ONE Baptism “Spiritual”?* Let us Make *One More Scriptural "Comparison" (1 Cor 2 : 13!),* And Ask: *“What Saith The Scripture?” And, The Answer we "hear," From God, IS:* *"For "BY" ONE [ Holy ] Spirit are we all Baptized { Spiritually "Identified with* *CHRIST" } into ONE Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we* *be bond or free; And Have Been ALL Made To Drink Into ONE [ Holy ] Spirit."* *(1 Corinthians 12 : 13)* If *This ONE BAPTISM* Is Not = *“The OPERATION Of God,”* then we would have to “concede” that it is “men & religion with ‘water’” that saves us - any takers? Thus, ALL "True" Believers who come to *God In The Way God Has* *Prescribed In His HOLY WORD, By The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God,* *And Place Complete 100% faith In:* *The LORD JESUS CHRIST, In HIS Precious BLOOD, And In HIS Resurrection!* Will ALWAYS have: *God's “Spiritual OPERATION” Of ETERNAL Salvation For EverMore!* Amen? All in "agreement" with your "Final Verdict" Of Truth? IF so, could that "Really" be the "start" of "practical earthly" *UNITY* *Of The Already "spiritually UNITED" Church { In Heaven! },* *Which Is HIS Body, Of CHRIST!? (Ephesians 4 : 3!)* Thanks kindly For Your Patient Review of study! Be Richly Blessed! ========================================================== *LORD JESUS, thank You for this Precious Word Of Truth that has Solved my* *"confusion." May this also be used for the Encouragement of Many others.* Amen.
My question is is it ok to be baptized twice??? I should look that up in the bible. I was baptized as an infant and that could be a convent or dedication with the parents and godparents to bring the child up as best as possible through Christ. And I wanna say it really worked out as I see it now
BELIEF is essentail BEFORE Christian baptism as Brother Phillip plainly states to the wise and serious follower of Christ: "35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, **If thou believest** with all thine heart, thou mayest.** And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing" Acts 8:35-39 (KJV) Thus any baptism without belief is FAKE and has no Biblical authentictiy.
Grace And Peace, Earnestly. Have you Prayerfully/Carefully _Considered:_ Yes, *It Is Scripturally True,* _water_ WAS Necessary, In *God's **_Previous_* *Dispensation of LAW, "But NOW, In HIS Dispensation Of GRACE,"* is NO LONGER Required, *Due To "HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY, With **_Only_** ONE Baptism!"* ----------------------------------------------------- { *FULL "study"* in "link" below...} - - *BaptismS Scriptural SUMMARY!:* And, *Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed In CHRIST, And HIS Word Of Truth!:* *LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to ALL of your Truth.* Amen: *God’s **_Previous_** “Dispensation Of HIS LAW!”:* Prophecy/Law: ►►► The Twelve *WERE SENT* to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄ The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS = A) water, For remission of sins!: (Matthew 3 : 5-6; Mark 1 : 4; Luke 3 : 3; John 1 : 31; *Luke 7 : 29-30;* Acts 10 : 37) (Matthew 28 : 19; *Mark 16 : 16; Acts 2 : 38;* Acts 22 : 16; Ezekiel 36 : 25) + B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! (Isaiah 44 : 3; Matthew 3 : 11; *Mark 1 : 8, 16 : 17-18;* Luke 24 : 49; *Acts 2 : 17-18, 38;* Acts 8 : 15-17; Acts 11 : 16) *Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From **_"Things That DIFFER!":_* *God’s **_CURRENT_** “Dispensation Of HIS GRACE!”:* *Mystery/GRACE!:* ►►► Paul *Was NOT SENT* to {water} baptize! WHY NOT?: ◄◄◄ *_Today:_** Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,* *Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!* *(Ephesians 4 : 5; Colossians 2 : 12; Galatians 3 : 27;* *Romans 6 : 3-4; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13!)* --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: *God's ONE Baptism **_Today?_** = ONE?* OR, EQUALS TWO? Thus, there is NO "christian water baptism." ------------------------------------------- Due to ALL The "Confusion" of ALL "religions," I simply live by: *RULE # 1: Always Exalt The LIVING Word, The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And* *HIS Preserved/Inspired/Profitable Written Word! ALONE!! ABOVE All Else!* *(Psalm 148 : 13, 138 : 2; 1 Corinthians 4 : 6 KJB!)* Amen? Rule # 2: IF And WHEN you "start" Lifting up men/women/religion/their "UNinspired writings/traditions!," Then, *IMMEDIATELY REFER* yourSELF *To RULE # 1!!* Amen, And AMEN! Earnestly, Again, *Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed!* Saint Christopher *Very Important QuestionS!:* *Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "NO* water baptism, for us *Today," Under* *HIS PURE GRACE, Absolutely Vanquishes* "Satan's Confusion" Into *OBLIVION!!?* Is water *Required By God* _Today?_ *ALL BIBLE baptismS* "study" *(#7)* is here: ruclips.net/channel/UCyxdRMbcLVBWY1HV2Fv8ALQdiscussion ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- PS: What think ye?: *"Solves* _ALL "religious" Confusion"?_ = *NO "Other" Doctrine Than "Right Division!"* {Perchance Disobedience to *THIS **_"Sound_** Doctrine" Of God!* is _The Cause_ Of ALL Of The "Controversial/Contradictory/Confusing/DIVIDING" Issues? }: www.bereanbiblesociety.org/no-other-doctrine-but-right-division/?Berean+Bible+Society&SEARCHLIGHT&
Babies and little kids have no sin Matthew 18 states this baptism requres confession babies cannot confess while little kids do not even know what the confession is for we can only baptism kids who have matured and know the difference between right and wrong and they are aware of what will happen if they dont get baptized this is usually around the age of 12 and 13 going upwards any child less than might not be aware why they r getting baptized thus they are sinless
repent and be baptist. this is old children not infant. even if im 50 years old. im still a child of my parents. please be cleared about baptism. before baptism repentance needs to happen. i just want to share this base on my experience, im not fully aware about the meaning of baptism thats why i backslided i did not take the baptism seriuosly. so it means that the true meaning of baptism is rejuvenation after repentance. infant baptism is just a tradition that we believe not what Jesus told us. we are saved through faith so no one may boast. i just want to let all the christians know that this is not mandatory. this is not a sin. be a parent that praise God and give thanks. focus on that instead. please christians dont argue about this. this is a choice .
There is absolutely nothing gained by getting anyone wet. Period. Baptism by water is a purely SYMBOLIC act of obedience. " For Christ sent me NOT to baptize, but to preach the gospel." ( 1Corinthians 1:14-17) Is Paul going against the great commission in Matt.28? No! That was to the Jews present not to Gentiles. When the believer trusts Christ as Savior, that moment " by one Spirit he is baptized into one body" 1Corinthians 12:13) and thus "baptized into Christ"(Galatians 3:27) There is no room for a water ceremony here. No human rite or ceremony can place the believer " Into Christ". The one baptism of the one body is performed by the " one Spirit"--not by a preacher or priest.
You are taking scripture out of context because it is what you have been taught. Ask why did Paul say For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel,? The answer is within the scripture you quote but you only focus on this...Why? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (I did baptize also the household of Stephanas. Beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. verse 15 ...so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name. Why? verse 17 lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. The people were arguing about who they should follow. Read the verses just proceeding this... I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. 11 For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. 12 What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? His point is not that baptism is not required but that they were baptized into Christ and they should all be in agreement following Christ not the one who baptized them but the one who they were baptized into. Need more proof? Acts 19:1-7 If baptism wasn't required to recieve the Holy Spirit, Why did Paul say it was and re-baptize 12 people? 1It happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus, and found some disciples. 2He said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said to him, “No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.” 3And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” And they said, “Into John’s baptism.” 4Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying. 7There were in all about twelve men. Paul clearly points out that baptism is a working of God not man. In Colossians 2:12, underline the expression “working of God,” and record this notation: Salvation through baptism a working of God; not a work of human merit.
even Christ as a baby was taken to the high priest by mary and joseph to be presented to god, as it was costum in the old law, in the new covenant we are washed from original sin, we are stained with original sin because of the fall of adam and eve in the garden, and no longer have enternal life, wich god intended for us to have. in infant baptism we are presenting our our child to god, and blessing them with the gift of the holy spirit, and washing them of this original sin. i know children know nothing of this, this doesnt mean it doesn't exist, nor does it mean that jesus christ does not love all children because he does, very much so. In the Catholic faith, when the child is at the age of reason and Confirm their faith through the sacrament of confirmation and profess there faith openly to the church.
Kimberly Reeves so if I were be born around a time and place where Christianity wasn't there, I would go to hell just for being born? Why even pray when god has a "divine" plan and a guy who prays for a Rolex can easily destroy gods "Devine plan"
Peter Black you should read the Old Testament because plenty of people wanted to uphold righteousness and I don't think that they're going to hell. check out the story of Moses. It's the book Exodus.
Kimberly Reeves 1.Baptism is not clearing you from original sin.Its conffesing your faith in Jesus Chrkst to the whole world. 2.'Presenting your child to God"? What?You can present you child in you home why would you baptise it? 3.I live in a catholic country and I tell you, the sacrament of 'confirmation' is just people having lunch together and then partying,getting drunk,lusting for each other till 4 am.Its tottaly unbiblical. Come on man. You can pray to God that He opens you eyes so that you can see false doctrines. Don't pray to Mary or the other saints.And don't repeat the Lords prayer 50 times in a row.Pray with passion.
“Why doesn’t the child bear his parent’s guilt?” The child has acted justly and responsibly. The child kept all my regulations and observed them. The child will surely live. 20 Only the one who sins will die. A child won’t bear a parent’s guilt, and a parent won’t bear a child’s guilt. Those who do right will be declared innocent, and the wicked will be declared guilty. Ezekiel 18
The unfortunate thing about this video is that e host seems to be nodding and no one is challenging this man with other scripture. This is a secondary issue and does end up falling to preference of parents, HOWEVER the biblical scriptures as a whole absolutely point to infant baptism and without doing theological gymnastics, it’s apparent in scripture that a member of a family who is newly saved baptized their whole household. This would be the wife/husband, children, infants and servants as well as extended family. That’s was an entire household means. Infant baptism is traced back to 130AD and wasn’t contested Until after 1600. And it’s a VERY small Christian circle who believes only believers should be baptized, and mostly they are okay with baptizing 5 year olds who will listen to their parents if they are at all convincing. I just wish there was more debate and conversation and less of this guy cherry picking scripture to make his point and avoiding the large majority of scriptures surrounding baptism that point to the whole family. Maybe one day he’ll have a lively debate with someone with a different view though.
@@alvinmorsejr.2576 do YOU totally understand the way baptism works or more specifically, the way God acts and works within the act of baptism? Or communion? Or any act of God for that matter? Baptism is “symbolically” welcoming someone into the Church universal. Preventing the baptism of a child is Making a stance that the child is not a member of the church. Infant baptism is the natural conclusion to draw from Christian’s who have been saved. Allowing God to be mysterious isn’t weak or a stupid position. We don’t need a well defined answered for every spiritual matter. The early church fathers we baptizing children in the second century and there’s plenty of material out there to prove that. Would you say the people who were direct disciples of John the apostle or Paul or Peter are wrong because you say so?
RollerCoasterWolf Boy no. God washed you and you received the gift of forgiveness by pure grace. God’s washing you cannot be redone because it is God who washes us in baptism, Ephesians 5:25-27. It isn’t something we do as a work to show God anything.
Yes and no the baptism u had as a baby is not valid no where in the Bible are we commanded to baptize babies because babies have no sin Matthew 19 states that,when we get baptized its for the forgiveness of sins and gift of the Holy Spirit baptism requires confession as we see in the book of Acts so babies cannot confess so you are not baptized that Baptism is not valid so u need to be baptized in Christ's Christ and only Church which is found in the book of Matthew 16
Baptism is NOT an outward sign of an inward expression. Nowhere in the bible is that ever implied, or taught. It is for the remission of sins and since babies do not have sin they should not be baptized.
@Billy original sin is the inheritance of sinful nature. You are not born with the guilt of what your ancestors did (read Ezekiel 18), but you do inherit the knowledge of good and evil from Adam which allows you to consciously violate God’s law (romans 5). Babies are not physically or mentally capable of breaking God’s law.
Why???? They don't know right from wrong. I was baptized as an infant and I remember nothing of it? Babies are not able to choose whom they will serve.
Yeah. Also many of the traditional Protestant denominations practice infant baptism as well such as Lutherans, Anglicans, Presbyterians, and Methodists.
He's wrong. Advocating a second baptism? That communicates to God that you do not trust the power of the first baptism. The bible is very clear that baptism happens ONCE! Babies were included wherever baptism is spoken of in its various forms throghout the bible. The power comes from God, not the understanding of the recipient.
Respectfully disagree With ALL "Confusion!": *GRACE And Peace From God, The Father, And, From The LORD JESUS CHRIST!* Note: without *God's Holy Spirit,* it will Be IMPOSSIBLE to "understand" *God's "Baptisms" Doctrine (1 Corinthians 2 : 13-14!),* so, *The Following!* Must Occur FIRST! Amen?: *God's GREATEST News Ever = HIS Gospel Of The Amazing GRACE Of God!* For ALL who have NOT YET *Been WASHED IN THE BLOOD!* Do you Desire ETERNAL Condemnation? If so, then just please "remain" as you are - In "UNbelief": 😢 ↓ (Luke 18 : 11-12!) for ALL others who wish to be "humble" ♫😇↑ (Luke 18 : 13-14!): *FAITH Cometh By hearing, And hearing By The Word Of God!:* Amen?: *(ALL Scriptures From God's Preserved WORD = KJV! ##)* *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God! = God's ETERNAL Salvation! By:* 100% faith (heart belief, trust!) in *The LORD JESUS CHRIST,* *In HIS Blood, And In HIS Resurrection! = God's ETERNAL Life!!* *(Romans 10 : 17; 1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4 And Ephesians 2 : 5-10!)* *Good Works Will Not Save you, But Will Get you Rewards At:* *The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)* ***Note1: Verse 15! Teaches ETERNAL SALVATION "Despite Loss!"*** ***Note2: IF you just BELIEVED This AND your Are The LAST "member"* *Of The Body Of CHRIST, we Are Going To Be Raptured Outta Here,* *so, learn This Right NOW, And you Will Receive A crown At Judgment!:*** *"Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,* *Which The LORD, The Righteous Judge, Shall Give me At That Day:* *And not to me only, but unto All them also that love HIS Appearing!"* *(2 Timothy 4 : 8!)* Amen? --------------------------------------------- IF you are in any "religion" with ONE "false doctrine," it is UNclean!, Please *Obey God, WHO Commands:* *"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, Saith* *The LORD, And touch not the unclean thing; and I Will Receive you,* *And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,* *Saith The LORD Almighty!" (2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Therefore: *God's ETERNAL Salvation Is THE Best Motivation For "true"* *believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!* rather than "serving out of FEAR" of "losing Probationary" salvation!: *"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,* *And of love, and of a sound mind!" (1 Timothy 1 : 7!)* ------------------------------------------------------------------- continued in *God's THIRTEEN (13) Scriptural Baptisms!...*
*GRACE And Peace From God, The Father, And, From The LORD JESUS CHRIST!* Note: without *God's Holy Spirit,* it will Be IMPOSSIBLE to "understand" *God's "Baptisms" Doctrine (1 Corinthians 2 : 13-14!),* so, *The Following!* Must Occur FIRST! Amen?: *God's GREATEST News Ever = HIS Gospel Of The Amazing GRACE Of God!* For ALL who have NOT YET *Been WASHED IN THE BLOOD!* Do you Desire ETERNAL Condemnation? If so, then just please "remain" as you are - In "UNbelief": 😢 ↓ (Luke 18 : 11-12!) for ALL others who wish to be "humble" ♫😇↑ (Luke 18 : 13-14!): *FAITH Cometh By hearing, And hearing By The Word Of God!:* Amen?: *(ALL Scriptures From God's Preserved WORD = KJV! ##)* *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God! = God's ETERNAL Salvation! By:* 100% faith (heart belief, trust!) in *The LORD JESUS CHRIST,* *In HIS Blood, And In HIS Resurrection! = God's ETERNAL Life!!* *(Romans 10 : 17; 1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4 And Ephesians 2 : 5-10!)* *Good Works Will Not Save you, But Will Get you Rewards At:* *The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)* ***Note1: Verse 15! Teaches ETERNAL SALVATION "Despite Loss!"*** ***Note2: IF you just BELIEVED This AND your Are The LAST "member"* *Of The Body Of CHRIST, we Are Going To Be Raptured Outta Here,* *so, learn This Right NOW, And you Will Receive A crown At Judgment!:*** *"Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,* *Which The LORD, The Righteous Judge, Shall Give me At That Day:* *And not to me only, but unto All them also that love HIS Appearing!"* *(2 Timothy 4 : 8!)* Amen? --------------------------------------------- IF you are in any "religion" with ONE "false doctrine," it is UNclean!, Please *Obey God, WHO Commands:* *"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, Saith* *The LORD, And touch not the unclean thing; and I Will Receive you,* *And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,* *Saith The LORD Almighty!" (2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Therefore: *God's ETERNAL Salvation Is THE Best Motivation For "true"* *believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!* rather than "serving out of FEAR" of "losing Probationary" salvation!: *"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,* *And of love, and of a sound mind!" (1 Timothy 1 : 7!)* ------------------------------------------------------------------- continued in *God's THIRTEEN (13) Scriptural Baptisms!...*
You're quoting scripture, which is great because God's precepts are perfect. But I fail to see how they relate to what I said about infant baptism. Are you advocating believers baptist or infant baptism?
That is an assumption not a scriptural fact ( the need for infant baptism), Infant baptism is a Catholic ritual based on original sin which is false. . If you were to read my lengthy reply as you admitted to not doing, you would understand. You are correct, the power that is in baptism does not come from man but from God as you would have seen had you read my reply ( see Gal. 2:12). After reading your responds to anime enthusiast, I can clearly understand now the intent of your statement before. Please show us one scripture that shows an infant being immersed. You will not find it. You also will not find one saying they were not, but you will find a plethora of scriptures allowing us to draw the conclusion they were not sense they are innocent. How can you learn if you don't read others comments regardless of length? It is within these replies that we can find truth if we really wish to. However, if we simply wish to regurgitate things we've heard or been taught that fits our preferred narrative, it is impossible to learn truth.
@@bethlehemrevisited787 Wow, you assume an awful lot of things about me. I have studied this issue. I have heard arguments on both sides, both supported by scripture. It simply isn't an issue to me that should divide Christians. It is not a salvation issue. Therefore it's not one that I find worthy of endless debate which is what usually happens on this impersonal communication mechanism from my experience.
It’s not confusing, God is not the author of confusion. Satan is! it’s repent and be baptized! How is that confusing? I won’t sit under or listen to teachers who believe in infant baptism. If they can’t understand what the Bible clearly teaches, How can I be taught by them in confidence that they know their scriptures. I can’t.
Acts 2:38-39 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.” Paul clearly states that the promise of baptism is for their children as well, so why shouldn't children be baptized? Also, the church practiced infant baptism since its inception.
I was baptized at 5. FIVE. I never understood the stuff they are talking about at that age. NO young child understands such a complicated construct. I didn't want this.
If I believed what you believe I wouldn't have any children. I would petrified that they may go to hell. So you could be loving a hell bound child. Frightening.
Did the infants decide to be circumcised too or was that the choice of the parents? You say that in circumcision you still had to decide to walk in the God of their fathers, isn't this the same thing as confirmation? You go on to say that many that were circumcised did follow God and that there's many that were baptized as infants who didnt follow God. But the opposite is same too, you purposely left that out to make a point. Many who were circumcised didnt follow God. Many who have been baptized as infants have followed God. I'm not quite sure the purpose of what you were trying to do other than confuse people to agree with your doctrine.
I would say that scripture itself says that in order to be baptized you first have to repent for your sins, nor once is there has there been a person baptized in the bible that did not repent first, how is a baby that cant even speak or think for itself suppose to repent. And in the bible it is mentioned that the children were circumcised but there is no verse that says that a child was baptized, why would that be? Surely if it was thought we could just assume we can baptize everyone from what we read about circumcision then he would be able to apply that same logic to circumcision and there would be no use in clarifying that children should be circumcised, yet it is clarified that children were circumcised ,but nowhere in the bible is there any clarification that children should baptized. I would like to hear your reply to this because this could lead me or you to learning something new about our faith.
Infant baptism is unscriptural baptism is for believers only babies cannot understand the principals of. Faith they can't receive the holy spirit yet the. Parents are responsible to raised their children in the fear of the lord I was baptized at age 21 my daughter got baptized at age 12 my son got baptized at age 11 they received the gift of the holy ghost at that age they spoke in tongues we are Oneness Apostolic believers.
Acts 2:38-39 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.” Paul clearly states that the promise of baptism is for their children as well, so why shouldn't children be baptized? Also, the church practiced infant baptism since its inception.
Mr. Truth depends, I personally call her the Mother of God and Blessed Mary to honor her and the words and acts she did in the Gospel of Saint Luke. But I would refrain from praying to her.
Where in the bible does it talk about dedication? Saint Peter was talking in the present for the present. Stop adding and removing from the Bible. That is heresy.
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Spiderman NESBIT , No. baptism is not required for salvation. If we as believing Christians are able, we should. An example would be the thief on the cross next to Jesus professed and believed in Jesus. Jesus said "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise." Luke 23:43
Romans 16:1 baptism is required Jesus got baptized in the Bible says it is a requirement and the person on the cross was with jesus so Jesus forgive him just cuz you don't feel like getting baptized doesn't make it true you need to get baptized cuz it is a requirement if didn't say it wasn't requirements as you do not need to get baptized but it says you do question why do you think it's not required where in the bible did it say you do not need to get baptized if you can you should and you can you will if you believe in Jesus and have repented and then you get the Holy Ghost and then you speak in tongues
@@paztrapal6686 faith and faith alone. You must have faith, realize you're lost and pray to God to save your soul. Is water baptism a bad thing? Certainly not. But alot of people believe they're going to heaven because they was baptized in water. And that is certainly not true. Christ baptizes with the Holy spirit of promise. Christ was baptized in water because He was a Jew and under the old law. When christ was crucified and ascended to heaven, the new Covenant began. We are only saved by grace through faith. Not by works, lest any man should boast. It's not something we do, it is only about what God done!
Believer’s baptism is distinguished from infant baptism in that an infant, who has no understanding of the gospel, cannot be a “believer” in Christ. Believer’s baptism involves a person hearing the gospel, accepting Christ as Savior, and choosing to be baptized. It is his or her choice. In infant baptism, the choice is made by someone else, not the child being baptized. Those who baptize infants often teach that water baptism is the means by which the Holy Spirit is imparted to an individual. They base this idea primarily upon Peter’s words in Acts 2:38: “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” Those who hold this doctrine believe that the act of baptizing an infant sets the child apart and secures salvation. Nowhere in Scripture is the practice of infant baptism even implied. Some point to the few references of the apostles baptizing “households” (Acts 11:14; 16:15, 33), with the assumption that the households included infants, but this is going beyond what the text says. In the New Testament, baptism by water was the natural result of saving faith and commitment to Jesus as Savior and Lord (Acts 2:42; 8:35-37). Since infants and small children cannot make an informed decision to profess Jesus as Lord, their baptism has no spiritual significance. If infant baptism made a baby right with God, then only children whose parents desired it would be “saved.” Those who did not have believing parents would be condemned as infants, an idea with no biblical foundation. Scripture is clear that God judges the heart of every person and judges or rewards each based on the decisions made by that individual, not by his or her parents (Romans 2:5-6, Jeremiah 17:10; Matthew 16:27; 2 Corinthians 5:10).
(HOUSEHOLD MEANS FAMIELY) you won't find Family in the Bible... Acts 16:15 And when she was baptized, and her household, Acts 16:312 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
Hey mum and dad guess what! You guy's were like so horribly wrong! But I'm like so totally right! But don't worry! I'm going to re baptise myself because I totally love you! Oy vey
@Fanie van Jaarsveld According to scripture, baptism is an immersion not a sprinkling and it is the choice of the one being baptized not the parent or any other person. In fact, the right baptism is so important that Paul re-baptized 12 disciples because they had not been baptized with Christs baptism and therefore had not received the Holy Spirit as promised in Acts 2:38. I have added the actual verse from the Catholic bible so you can see it there. Notice being baptized is equated to becoming a believer. How can an infant make this decision much less believe? Acts 19:1-5 While Apollos was in Corinth, Paul traveled through the interior of the country and came (down) to Ephesus where he found some disciples. 2 He said to them, “Did you receive the holy Spirit when you became believers?” They answered him, “We have never even heard that there is a holy Spirit.” 3 He said, “How were you baptized?” They replied, “With the baptism of John.” 4 Paul then said, “John baptized with a baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, in Jesus.”a 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
'obviously there no baby that performs faith'.....hmmm... let's see... there is John the baptist and there is king David. And you know....John was not a 'Baptist'..:D Heh trying to be really funny here.. God Bless you all:)!
I would say that is not about age, it is about repenting and accepting the Lord as your savior. a baby and most young children can not discern good and bad without their parents guiding them, how would they then even be able to repent and to accept the Lord.
I was raised/baptized as a catholic, it wasn’t till I was 30 that I really knew who Jesus was to me. I decided to follow Christ and get Baptist ❤️🥰.
Hello I was baptized as an infant, I am 12 and I have given my life to Jesus Christ and repented, I just want to ask if I should be baptized again because I heard that you should know who Jesus is first before being baptized
Fran ni I had the same question and someone answer yes you should to me because you are technically not baptized with a little sprinkle of water so I would say yes if you want and I want to, but you are not saved by water baptism you are saved through the lord Jesus Christ, accepting him and read Roman 10:9
@@jesus4life196 yeah you must get baptised again. That was not baptism in which you were sprinkled with water. Beleive me. Your whole body must be immersed in water (which symbolize the death of christ). You must beleive in JESUS as your savior and you must repent for your sins and then you shall be baptised. This will open your gateway to heaven. Whereas a baby does not repent and it does not know who is jesus. So take my words seriously and get baptised soon for the time is short and JESUS is coming soon. Don't miss the rapture.
By the way get baptised in a protestant church as they do it in a right manner than doing it in a catholic church. 😊
@@valerialara8792 read galatians 3:27 if you are not baptized, you have not put on christ and you will have no part with jesus in heaven.
@@jesus4life196 read ACTS 8:35 - 38
Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him."
The audience that Paul is speaking to in Acts baptized their entire families and continued to do so for centuries. More than 1,500 years later, people decided to stop doing that, declare themselves as interpreting Paul correctly, and in so doing proclaim that the audience right in front of him heard it incorrectly and Paul allowed them to do it incorrectly for the rest of his life. Crazy.
Exactly! Plus, in the old covenant babies were circumcised. They also went thru the baptism at the parting of The Red Sea and the various other forms/ways God's Word speaks of baptisms.
Confirmation class is an outward accepting of their faith at around age 12. But they are allowed to be baptized Christians before that.
@Asaph Vapor Even if we don't count the numerous references to household baptisms. And we leave out Peter in Acts 2, saying that the promises of baptism were for your children...we could even ignore Jesus commanding us to baptize them as part of all nations. We would still be confronted with God's clear desire to baptize our children, based on who needs it, what is delivered thru it and who is acting in it.
@Asaph Vapor just to be as transparent as possible on RUclips comment sections: I have a family and a job, so pinging me for not responding within 24 hours of your comment is slightly silly. I mean, go ahead and do it if you think it strengthens your point or amplifies your scathing retort, but waxing eloquent about theology with strangers is firmly in the “when I got the time” category.
Having said that, I commend you for requesting the chapter and verse, too many of these youtube theologians cite their opinions based on feelings and man-made traditions never cracking a bible. I thought the Great Commission and Peter’s sermon at Pentecost were well known enough to assume you had the verses. Thank you for the correction, I apologize for assuming.
I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but you seem to advocate for some kind of age of accountability. Where exactly is the scriptural support for that position?
As requested:
Matthew 28:16-20, “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.”
(Children are included in the ALL)
Acts 2:38-39, “38 And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.””
(Peter explicitly includes children in the promises of Baptism.)
As far as the baptism of households, the verses are: Cornelius (Acts 10 but specifically 10:47-48); Lydia (Acts 16:15); The Philippian jailor (Acts 16:33-34); Stephanas (1 Cor. 1:16).
(The term Household is used throughout the scriptures to indicate everyone from infant to the infirm elderly, from the head of house to the youngest slave girl. If you are going to change the meaning of a term you need to have an overwhelming reason to do so.)
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@Asaph Vapor It's been 5 minutes, what's up?
@Asaph Vapor Interesting, you don't seem to be very intellectually consistent with your demands for explicit verses to support your doctrinal positions...
You demand an explicit verse endorsing or describing infant baptism, but don't seem very bothered by the absence of scriptural support for the false doctrine of age of accountability.
Bonus question: Do you deny women the Sacrament of Holy Communion? I ask because there is no verse or clear example of women taking part in communion in the bible.
The offense to people which causes them to not want to baptize their children, is really because they don’t understand Ephesians 2 where Paul says “while we were still God’s enemies Christ died for us.” Jesus didn’t wait until you were ready to accept Him to die for you and then accomplish your salvation for you. Babies can recieve gifts and they can be adopted and enter into a contract without even knowing it at the time. God adopted us as His sons and daughters, not because of righteous things we have done but because of His mercy.
Then why are there no recorded baptisms in the bible. In the bible it clearly said that the children were circumcised but when baptism is mentioned there is always a part where the person being baptized repents and then accepts the Lord, how can a baby or a small child repent or even accept God as their savior if they cant even discern good from evil without guidance from parents or other people. I would truly like to read your response as this discussion can not make either of us any less wise, but perhaps you or I can learn something.
@@augmentumstratus8434exactly. People fell to look at it from historical context and a social context on what was going on and that time and not what it's like now. When people back then converted they usually got baptized at the same time. That's because there was a body of water around somewhere to do it. It was coming back then. Yet babies were not baptized. I don't understand how people can clearly see past that one must already be a Christian to be baptized. And that means that one must confess or sins and repent and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Infants don't have the knowledge or to understand it to do that. When someone baptized an infant they're actually taking away something from that infant. Baptism is very personal and very intimate between the believer and Jesus Christ.. It is for the choice of the individual to get baptized and yet people fell to acknowledge that. We cannot make that choice for nobody else they must make it themselves
@@joshcardone1836 this is a topic I am beginning to study more deeply (currently would line up with believers baptism) but my question is what do we do with the child/adult who is a member of a Christian family but is mentally unable to repent and make a confession of faith? Do we just assume they are destined to hell therefore we should withhold baptism?
Where a household was baptized the Scripture states the following:
"29 The jailer called for lights and ran to the dungeon and fell down trembling before Paul and Silas.30 Then he brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, along with everyone in your household.
”32 And they shared the word of the Lord with him and with all who lived in his household.
33 Even at that hour of the night, the jailer cared for them and washed their wounds.
Then he and everyone in his household were immediately baptized
34 He brought them into his house and set a meal before them, and **he and his entire household rejoiced because they all believed** in God."
Acts 16:29-34 (NLT)
Thus unbelieving babies would not have been included.
Acts 2:38-39
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
Where does Scripture even imply that Baptism is "an outward sign of an inward expression"?
Acts 2:38 literally says to "repent and be Baptized for the remission of sins." That flat out denies that Baptism is an empty symbol.
Baptism is the Effectual Sign that brings us into Covenant with God, just like the Old Testament's circumcision.
Circumcision only resembles Baptism in minor ways. Circumcision is an outward sign easily checked. Like at lot of men my age (68) I am circumcised for hygienic reasons but not a Jew. Baptism doesn't show on the outside. Females are baptized. Circumcision had a prescribed ritual and time.
@@markhorton3994 Circumcision is literally connected to Baptism in the Epistle to the Colossians. Actually, "checking" circumcision is not really easy, given public decency. All of the rest of your arguments do not in the least challenge what I've said.
@@markhorton3994 I did a video response to this; it is on my channel. Please check it out.
@@barelyprotestant5365 Your original argument that Baptism is not merely an outside sign but actually does something I am in agreement with. I am a confessional Lutheran, I believe that Baptism is the act by which God gives His Grace ie. Salvation. Necessary for salvation when possible. If Baptism is not possible (or someone delays too long) they still might be saved (God knows) but rejecting Baptism is rejecting salvation with all that implies. Since Baptism is an act of God, not man, I am of the opinion that infants should be baptized but that adults should believe first.
My argument was that circumcision and Baptism are only slightly similar. It is easy to check circumcision, it just might not be socially convenient. I was talking about making a check not being able to tell at a glance.
No it’s absolutely not like the circumsision because if it was why did the early Jews who believed in Christ get circumcised and still get baptised of baptism was there to replace it. Baptism doesn’t bring us into a covenant it’s the expression that you’re welcoming Jesus Christ in your life AFTER you’ve repented of your sins. How can an infant repent and not only that but accept Jesus Christ? Your satanic catholic doctrine is clearly man made and was not practiced by the early church fathers. You need to repent
If I was engaged I Shall baptize are my babies and I encourage All to consecrate your children to Jesus Amen
I don’t see the point as it only matters if it’s voluntary and of course you can only choose to when older
If you are a VIRGIN, Vatican bride, you must be a nun who has taken a vow of chastity. Only one virgin ever has or ever will give birth. You are not her.
Mark Horton
At first I desire to be a earthly mother then I realized that was not God‘s Will for me
Mark Horton
Yeah you are correct
@@vaticancitybride7137 God bless you for your service to Him.
Ps. I am not Catholic but I appreciate the dedication of those who serve the Lord with all they are.
In the Old testament jews circumcized their babies at 8 days old to be part of the covenant. Hmmm. What harm can infant baptism have? I inherited the faith of my family thank God and was baptized under 2...thank God. As an Orthodox Christian I understand Jesus as love and fear him as God, thank God. As I grew and learned about other Faiths and churches I discovered how truely bless I am! I wish more people study the traditions of the early church fathers (apostles) to help guide them to understanding the scripture more before they "teach" holiness and speak of the union of God and his creation, may the Lord Almighty bless and forgive us always through Jesus works. Amen.
I will definately baptize my children and keep icons in my house as a reminder that God did come in human form although close to 2000 years ago and is alive and watching us. many hugs and kisses to the brethren, truely love you much - no worries - God understands our heart, your brother if you choose to believe it - George
I'm happy someone gets the true meaning of baptism.
Amen
Which of the Two Baptisms is required for salvation?
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, as prescribed by the Old Covenant. Christ was water baptized by John and then received the Holy Spirit from heaven. The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a New Covenant water baptism ceremony.
The conversion process is described below.
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water when they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant - New Covenant)
How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist?
Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ?
New Covenant water baptism is a beautiful ceremony which allows new believers to declare their conversion to the whole world.
What I don't like is how Baptists and some Non-denominational churches will not allow church membership for people baptized as infants in a Reformed or Presbyterian church. In fact, they do not consider infants baptized as part of the overall Church. However, Presbyterians and Reformed churches do. How do you deal with people baptized as infants trying to become a member of your church? Tell them to re-baptize by immersion?
Timbah Lee It is clear they would hold to the anabaptist view... sad!
@SuperReisiger Just out of curiosity, what exactly is the point of "biblical Baptism" in your church? I ask, because I've listened to a lot of baptists over the years and they use the term. The main problem is they never really seem to quote any verse in the bible except for the book of Acts. (And then they spend a lot of time like Rick Smith in the video, explaining how the bible doesn't actually mean what it clearly says...)
@SuperReisiger I did not say there was anything wrong with using the book of Acts. All scripture is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training. I was merely wondering why you wouldn't use the rest of the New Testament too. I always suspected the answer was to avoid having to come to the uncomfortable conclusion (for you that God is the one acting in Baptism not us. At the end of the day, Acts provides more than enough support for us to continue the biblical practice of baptizing our infants, (The monergistic view of baptism is fully supported in Acts and all but one of the household baptisms occur in Acts) but a richer fuller defense of our practice comes from using the entire bible. (The Psalms and Gospels say Infants & Children can have faith; throughout the entire scriptures household refers to infants to elderly; the epistles tell us again and again the gifts of baptism and those gifts can only come from God.)
While it was nice to see you actually refer to some verses about baptism from the epistles, it was unfortunate to see you gut them and make them about you instead of God's grace. The problem with turning things into symbols, is how do you turn them back to actual comfort? Your mis-quote of Romans inserting baptism SYMBOLIZED Christ's death, burial and resurrection, is frightening. If we are only attached to His death and burial symbolically, are we only symbolically joined to His resurrectionl? How can you claim otherwise? That is worse than Rick Smith in the video, trying to explain how Peter didn't really mean to include 2 of the 3 groups mentioned as covered in the promises of baptism (Kids and those far off are out in the cold).
I am glad that you seem to hold Baptism in high regard, it is a start. The more I read comments by evangelicals, the more I am struck by the dismissive attitude towards baptism that pervades your denomination. That is probably a natural out growth of viewing baptism as something you do and not on what Christ did for us. We essentially have two diametrically opposing views on baptism: You believe baptism is where YOU reach out of your sin & filth to grasp onto Christ and claim him as your personal Lord and Savior. I believe baptism is where Christ reaches down from heaven into my sin, filth, muck & mire: grasps me tight and claims me as God's child. I'd just ask whose grip do you trust more?
You asked several questions and it made organizing the reply difficult, I apologize if this format is confusing.
Regarding the symbolic nature of baptism, i continue to disagree with you. Is means is until the Holy Spirit says otherwise. Paul doesn't say our baptisms are symbolic, he says our baptism unite us with Christ and his death and resurrection. And again, if the first two are only symbolic, how can the third not be?
SuperReisiger: Are you in a cult that teaches that every baby you sprinkle makes them a child of God?
ANSWER: Thats not a cult, that's biblical Christianity. Are you in some sort of heretical sect that claims there is another way to salvation besides faith in Christ? My denomination bases our doctrine on what the bible says, not on what we wish it did. You should try it, instead of reading verses you don't like/understand as only symbolic.
SuperReisiger: Where does the Bible say you can sprinkle instead of Baptise(immerse)?
ANSWER: Actually the correct question should be, where does the bible demand immersion? The word in koine Greek means wash and CAN mean immerse. Mark 7:4 says the Pharisees wouldn't eat until they had washed (baptized) themselves, their cups, pots and COUCHES. Where did they get that much water in ancient Israel? Speaking of which, at Pentecost where could they baptize the 3000 new converts by immersion in Jerusalem? Granted this last one is not a biblical source, but the Didache is a very early church document (~50-120. AD) and it describes baptizing converts in rivers or standing water OR by pouring water on the head.
SuperReisiger: Do you presume salvation for each babt?
ANSWER: That is an interesting question coming from you, isn't that YOUR doctrine? Correct me if I'm wrong about your theology, but don't you believe that infants & children are innocent until some mythical age of accountability? That sounds like presumed salvation to me...unless you want to invent a holding pen for the youthful departed (e.g. purgatory). There are numerous verses through out the New Testament that say we are saved by faith, if your position is that infants and young children can't have faith, you have two options: all children that die are condemned OR once again you have to claim that the bible doesn't mean what it clearly says about faith in Christ being the only way to eternal life.
But to answer your question: yes, I believe God honors His promises in baptism. We must trust in God's mercy and love for the children of believers who mistakenly denied their children His gift prior to their deaths.
SuperReisiger: Are they in the new covenant?
ANSWER: Given the fact that their baptism incorporates them into the name of the Triune God(Matthew 28); clothes them in Christ (Galatians 3); adopts them as God's children(Galatians 4); forgives their sins(Acts 2); sactifies and cleans them (1 Cor 6); unites them to Christ's death, burial and resurrection (Rom 6); washes us with the regeneration of new birth (Titus 3) and Saves us(1 Peter 3): yep, I'd put them squarely in God's new covenant.
SuperReisiger: Where is your bible verses that say you should baptised babies?
ANSWER: Well, babies would fit inside Jesus' "All Nations" criteria. They would also fit in Peter's words that baptismal promises were for "our children". And the whole house hold baptisms...to heck with this, YOU TELL ME where is your verse to deny babies baptism?
Infant baptism is a result of understanding what baptism is (See prior answer). Who is acting in baptism (Only God can do those things) Who needs baptism? (everyone, Romans 3:23 & sinful babies Psalm 51) Our Faith comes from God. (Ephesians 2) Infants/Children can have faith. (Psalm 22:9-10 / Psalm 71:5-6 / 2 Timothy 3:14-15 / St Luke 1:15 & 41 / St Matthew 21:15-16 )
SuperReisiger: What denomination are you anyway, seams like you are quick to criticise but don't give any substance for an alternative few.
ANSWER: I'm a confessional lutheran. All I did was ask a few pointed questions, you were the one who jumped right to attacks, implying I was in a cult because I disagreed with your beliefs. Hopefully this helps explain my views a bit better.
SuperReisiger: O and where in the Old Testament do you get verses that speak on New Covenant baptism?
ANSWER: Reading comprehension brother... my comment was that the concepts that support infant baptism are found through out the bible.
1. I gave you a few verses above from the Old and New Testament that show infants and children can have faith.
2. The Old and New Testament both teach we are ALL sinful.
3. The Old Testament uses the term Household to refer to the entire family from babes to infirm grandparents, why would the Holy Spirit suddenly change course and use the term to mean everyone in the family, except young children?
@SuperReisiger No, I completely understand the symbolism you are referring too. You are more focused on the illustration of immersing in and emerging from the water than what God is doing in your Baptism. My focus is on what the bible says God does at Baptism(forgiveness of sins, adoption, the whole list you ignored in my last comment.) I don't understand why you think I believe salvation rests on anything but my faith in Christ's death for my sins. I've been trying to tell you, that is exactly what baptism joins me to.
Thank you for your love and concern. I share it for you. Your denial that infants & children can have faith is basically calling Jesus and the Holy Spirit liars. I've already gave you some of the verses that show their faith. Further more you chose to pit scripture against itself rather than submit to it. The angel didn't say with God all things are possibla... except grant children faith.
You ignored my question of what you presume for each baby. You seemed to deny/mock my belief that God will honor His baptismal promises to babies. I'd like to know what is your belief of what happens to infants & young children when they die?
The answer is no! You are NOT supposed to baptize babies. The person has to willingly and voluntarily CHOOSE to have yourself baptized. Baptize means to immerse, NOT sprinkle or pour.
Where in the Bible was a child “dedicated” though?
Acts 2:38-39
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
I don't see anything wrong with with parents baptizing their babies they want to do that that's their business but I do think that these creatures that take the baby shake them and don't them and put them back in shake them and dump them should be charged with abuse that's no way to baptize a baby
According to scripture, baptism has to be the choice of the one being baptized. No one can choose for you to obey Christ.
No
@@bethlehemrevisited787 same with circumcision?
Believing in infant baptism does not deny believers baptism. R.C. Sproul has a solid biblical argument for infant baptism. Doug Wilson changed his views. The view shared here is not wrong but neither is one that believes in infant baptism. What is important is that water baptism DOES NOT SAVE.
Christ frequently talks about the innocence of children. If you're going to question him and call him a liar, go ahead all you want. But I'm telling you right now it is categorically a possible for a two-week-old, two-year-old, or even a four-year-old to understand that they have committed sin because they haven't. They are innocent and until they can fully comprehend the mechanism of separating yourself from God. Which they have not done yet, remission of sins is not called for. You question the immutable Grace and cause of God when you take the most innocent and ascribed to them sinful Acts. Something they cannot commit.
44 Hawk being sinful is a heart condition. Death is the mark of sin and babies can die. The reason is that they are born sinners and therefore are in need of forgiveness. There is no words of Jesus which say children are innocent. When he told his disciples to come like the little children he was saying that they need to come needy. Also notice that they the children didn’t bring themselves and that there were little ones and infants ...... “hint, hint”
@@villarrealmarta6103 telling them to come as little children because little children are indeed innocent. That's why he was moving his lips. He was trying to give them a lesson. Amazing how you disprove your own statement. Children are not born sinners. That is a monitor that man puts on them, not God.
44 Hawk Because we are born sinners, we must experience a second, spiritual birth. We are born once into Adam’s family and are sinners by nature. When we are born again, we are born into God’s family and are given the nature of Christ. We praise the Lord that “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God -children born not of natural descent . . . but born of God”
44 Hawk The Kingdom belongs to such as these; it is of such as these that the kingdom of God is made up, of children and of such as have childlike, simple faith in Jesus the Savior. It is a powerful declaration concerning the ability of the children to grasp and know the essential truths pertaining to their salvation in a much better and surer way than that usually chosen by the adults. This truth He states also from the other side, confirming His declaration with a solemn oath. If anyone does not accept the kingdom of God, Jesus the Savior, and the faith in Him which the Holy Spirit works in the heart, as a little child, he shall not enter that kingdom. And to emphasize His words still more strongly, the Lord did not hesitate to take the little ones up into His arms and into His bosom, and to bless them with the laying on of hands. "These verses no one will take from us; nor contradict them with valid reasons. For here it says that Christ wants it unforbidden to bring children to Him, yea, He commands them to be brought to Him, and He blesses them and gives them the kingdom of heaven; let us mark that well." 42) It is also worth while, at this point, to note what a Reformed commentator writes: "Though little children, they were capable of receiving Christ's blessings. If Christ embraced them, why should not His Church embrace them? Why not dedicate them to God by Baptism? - whether that be performed by sprinkling, washing, or immersion; for we need not dispute about the mode: on this point let everyone be fully persuaded in his own mind. I confess it appears to me grossly heathenish and barbarous to see parents who profess to believe in that Christ who loves children, and among them those whose creed does not prevent them from using infant baptism, depriving their children of an ordinance by which no soul can prove that they cannot be profited, and, through an unaccountable bigotry or carelessness, withholding from them the privilege of even a nominal dedication to God; and yet these very persons are ready enough to fly for a minister to baptize their child when they suppose it to be at the point of death!"
44 Hawk how did I disprove my own statement? When Jesus said come to me like little children he was showing them that the little children didn’t come by their own power but rather by their mothers. Therefore he says; you are not with me because of your own power, but by my calling you. We are not believers by our own choosing but rather by grace undeserved God has chosen us. This language is all over scripture so that you can’t deny it, and yet you do.
If we are to defer to God's word rather than what seems to 'make sense' or 'feels good', than infant or baby baptism is nothing more than getting them wet. God does not accept the "dedication of a child" to him, nor is holy spirit dispensed when parents perform this ritual.
In view of the fact that "hearing the word," "embracing the word heartily," and "repenting" proceed water baptism (Acts 2:14, 22, 38, 41) and that baptism requires the individual to make a solid decision, it is apparent that one must at least be of age to hear, to believe, and to make this decision. An argument is made by some in favor of infant baptism. They refer to the instances where 'households' were baptized, such as the households of Cornelius, Lydia, the Philippian jailer, Crispus, and Stephanas. (Acts 10:48; 11:14; 16:15, 32-34; 18:8; 1Cor 1:16) they believe that this implies that small babies in those families were also baptized. But, in the case of Cornelius, those who were baptized were those who had heard the word and received the Holy Spirit, and they spoke in tongues and glorified God; these things could not apply to infants. (Acts 10:44-46) Lydia was "a worshipper of God, ...and God opened her heart wide to pay attention to the things being spoken by Paul." (Acts 26:14) The Philippian jailer had to "believe on the Lord Jesus," and this implies that the others in his family also had to believe in order to be baptized. (Acts 16:31-34) "Crispus the presiding officer of the synagogue became a believer in the Lord, and so did all his household." (Acts 18:8) all of this demonstrates that associated with baptism we're such things as hearing, believing, and glorifying God, things infants cannot do. At Samaria when they heard and believed "the good news of the kingdom of God and of the name of Jesus Christ, they proceeded to be baptized." Here the Scriptural record specifies that the ones baptized were, not infants, but "men and women." (Acts 8:12)
The statement made by the Apostle Paul to the Corinthians that children were "holy" by reason of a believing parent is no proof that infants were baptized; rather, it implies the opposite. Minor children too young to have the ability to make such a decision would come under a form of merit because of the believing parent, not because of any so-called sacramental baptism, imparting independent merit. If infants could properly be baptized they would not need to have the Merit of the bleeding parent extended to them. (1st Corinthians 7:14)
It is true that Jesus said: "Stop hindering [the young children] from coming to me, for the kingdom of the heavens belongs to suchlike ones." (Matthew 19:13-15; Mark 10:13-16) But they were not baptized. Jesus blessed them, and there is nothing to indicate that his laying his hands upon them was a religious ceremony. He further showed that the reason 'the kingdom of God belongs to such' was not because they were baptized but because they were teachable and trusting. Christians are commanded to be "babes as to badness, yet full-grown in powers of understanding." (Matthew 18:4, Luke 18:16, 17, 1st Corinthians 14:20)
Jews were circumsized 8days after birth which brought infants into God's covenant. We are born into sin due to Adam and Eve and we have to be cleansed from their sin. According to the scripture Jesus never baptized people during his ministry. Baptizing infants bring them into the new covenant.
At 3:55 he says many circumsized or baptized when they were extremely young never followed the God of their fathers. So what?!? Likewise for many that were baptized as adults!
You are saved by Gods grace through faith... Only BY HIS GRACE NOT BY ANY WORK (DONE BY HUMAN). SO KEEP YOUR FAITH AND PRAY FOR GODS GRACE. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TOWARDS SALVATION. NOTHING ELSE WILL SAVE YOU. NOT EVEN BAPTISM....
no. That means nothing. What matters is if we live for God and be baptized in the Holy Spirit.
How about this question.. who can baptize? I've seen churches allow moms, dads, spiritual mentors, etc baptize other people. Is that biblical, any examples seen in the bible? Is this just reserved for pastors, etc?
Jordan Hanger - The only mandate to baptize someone is that the person who is doing the baptizing is a Christian. We have lots of dads baptizing their children, husbands baptizing wives, mentors / leaders baptizing the folks they were leading / mentoring, etc. In a way, everyone who is a Christian is a "pastor." They are all called to lead / love / and pour into others.
Thanks for the reply. Do you have any scripture to back that up. Just curious because I couldn't find much.
Jordan Hanger - Here's an article that you may find helpful. www.gotquestions.org/baptize-who.html
Jesus says, "unless you become like children you cannot enter the kingdom of God!!" Adults need to be taught to repent, to realise that they have nothing to offer God, just like the little children. Through teaching adults need to come into the receptive mode little children are already in. So, that is why Jesus refers to His disciples as "little ones" as "poor in the Spirit" because they depend completely on Him! Therefore, in this sense one can say: Jesus teaches to only baptise "little ones"! Baptism is a gift of God by water and the word! Baptism is not a work the human being does to himself. You cannot baptise yourself! Look at the verbs being used together with baptism passages: they are all in the passive mode, at least in the Greek. Baptism is a gift we receive from God using His servant of the word. Babies are absolute examples of receiving gifts.
Only pastors and elders should baptize.
At 4:30 (your countdown), that Bible text is addressed to ADULTS. During Biblical times, Christianity had yet to establish a stable multi-generational existence. Give me one example of someone who was Baptized in the Bible who was raised by Christian parents. You can't - it never happened.
The centurion who asked Jesus to save and heal his daughter. The households of believers who were baptized. God loved John the baptist while he was in his mother’s womb. The apostles baptized children and taught their disciples to baptize children.
I strongly disagree with this. I was baptised as a baby. I still have my Catholic baptismal certificate. It actually reads that through this baptism the original sin of Adam & Eve was annulled which is ridiculous. Another thing is that I was repeatedly told I'm Catholic even if I said I don't believe in God.
It is my believe that only adults should ever be baptised and by their own free will, being at an age where they can choose and being fully aware of their own choice.
Baby dedication is not biblical
U can make a better case for infant baptism than baby dedication
Baptism is an act of God in which He delivers the Grace that saves. By being descendants of the first Adam (which means man) we are all guilty.
If infants are sinless and don't need salvation, when do we become responsible for our sins?
Mark Horton infants are sinful. Death is the mark of sin and babies as we all know can die like adults. We are all born in sin and separated from God. That’s why we need to be born again, which is God’s work also.
@@villarrealmarta6103 Of course. I was trying to get the people who believe that infants are innocent to think. If infants were sinless ( they are not) they would become sinners like adults at some point. That should be a problem for those who don't baptize infants.
Then why are there no recorded baptisms in the bible. In the bible it clearly said that the children were circumcised but when baptism is mentioned there is always a part where the person being baptized repents and then accepts the Lord, how can a baby or a small child repent or even accept God as their savior if they cant even discern good from evil without guidance from parents or other people. I would truly like to read your response as this discussion can not make either of us any less wise, but perhaps you or I can learn something.
Abraham's children were circumcised and were obligated to follow the Lord. It was not a sign of faith on their part as it was to Abraham, but a sign of works to be done without the grace to perform. Gen 18:19 "For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him."
The Reformed analogy of circumcision corresponding to infant baptism under the New Covenant can not be based on this principle of works which was obligated to the natural seed of Abraham and those who followed under the Mosaic covenant. Infant baptism imposes a works ethic of both deed and conscience on the unregenerate child, and may also give one a false sense of righteousness. The fact that males and not females are circumcised turns this Reformed doctrine of comparison on its head.
Should a Christian attend infant baptism?
Is it sinful to attend with family?
Baptizing and Dedicating ones child is two totally different things. Catholics just don't get it.
What Bible do you read??
? So are you for infant baptism or against it?
Catholics are into error not there fault there ministers have been brainwashed by there bishops and false gospel teaching
@@ciso5765 there's only 1 true Bible. The WORD OF GOD. Catholicism has stepped beyond Gods word and added in their own. Teaching false doctrines and heresies.
@@ciso5765 you can not Batise an infant. Read Gods word and find out what must be done in order for one to be Baptized. Then your eyes will be opened.
Scripture NEVER points to baptism as an outward expression or sign of an inward change. It always points to the time that God does what He promised He would do when we obey. He removes our sin by the blood of Christ. It is correct that we can not earn or do anything thing to earn our salvation but baptism is not our work! Baptism is the working of God Colossians 2:12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through your faith in the working of God, who raised him from the dead.
Galatians 2:20 says Christians have been crucified with Christ...I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Romans 6 illustrates this: Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4 We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
5 For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his. 6 For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with,[a] that we should no longer be slaves to sin- 7 because anyone who has died has been set free from sin.
Now...show me where it says its and outward sign of an inward change!! You will not find it!
Your repentant changed life is the outward sign.
Grace And Peace. ALL who practice "water" (Thoroughly Confused about it!),
have Not Yet _faced up to_ And "answered" The Important Question:
*Does God REQUIRE* "water" baptism to be "practiced" *Today, Under HIS GRACE!* ?
IF "yes," Only then take on The Daunting Task of "repairing" ALL Confusion As To:
WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, And WHY! Correct?
IF *God's Answer IS "NO!," Then ALL* "The Controversy, Contradictions, And CONFUSION"
*Will IMMEDIATELY Cease To Exist!* Amen?
i "studied" this FULLY, Prayerfully, And Carefully, And agree with the latter.
( FULL "study" available, IF you "wish"...)
bro Chris
Yes He does. You cannot remove Gods command to make you less confused. Gods promise is simple man confuses it.
Psalm 119:130 says "The unfolding of Your words gives light;
It gives understanding to the simple."
1 Corinthians 14:33 says "for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints."
Therefore, if you are confused, you are not listening to God.
Lets see just how simple it is by 1. Trusting that God is not the author of confusion and 2. Trusting what we can confirm in a simple manner, His will by unfolding His words.
The day the church began. Peter preached Jesus to the Jews who were in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost. Once they heard about Jesus and believed Peter they asked a very simple question. "What must we do?"
ACTS 2:37-41" Now when they heard this, they were pierced to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?” Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off, as many as the Lord our God will call to Himself.” And with many other words he solemnly testified and kept on exhorting them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation!” So then, those who had received his word were baptized; and that day there were added about three thousand souls."
What did he tell them to do and why? What was promised to them if they obeyed?
Next Paul's conversion in his own words.
After he had seen Jesus, called Him Lord and fasted and prayed for three days in Damascus, here is what he says he was told to do to remove his sin.
ACTS 22:16 " Now why do you delay? Get up and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on His name.’"
1 Peter 3:19-21 "He went and made proclamation to the spirits now in prison, who once were disobedient, when the patience of God kept waiting in the days of Noah, during the construction of the ark, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through the water. Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ",
According to 1 Peter baptism does now save by cleaning of sin through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.
It is God who does the work of removing our sin AT our baptism into Christ
Colossians 2:12-14 "having been buried with Him in baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. When you were dead in your transgressions and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive together with Him, having forgiven us all our transgressions, having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross."
It is at our baptism that God does His work in us because of our trust in Him.
Only those who are baptized receive this:
Romans 6:3-11 "Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin.
Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus."
God does not confuse, man does. Man wants to point out scripture to fit his narrative of religion. Example.
John 3:16 is the most quoted verse in the bible.
"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life."
We can stop here and make that the entire gospel but we would be false teachers if we did. In this very same letter just a few verses later John says this in verse 36.
"He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
So, when we unfold Gods work we see it's not confusing at all. We also see that obedience to Jesus' commands is required.
Jesus said this in the very same letter. John 14:15 "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments."
Not confusing at all is it?
Grace And Peace. Thanks for the Great Discussion. I don't believe that I, but
*God, REMOVED HIS Requirement For "water" baptism For The Remission*
*Of sins, Under HIS "New Dispensation Of GRACE (NO "works!"), For us Today!*
But, first, we'll look at: "The Church (of Today!) _began_ at Pentecost."
Many _presume_ this, and then, since it contains "water," Thus, we have
ALL The abounding "Confusion!".
However, *The Body Of CHRIST was UNKNOWN then, And ONLY "Revealed*
*By CHRIST, **_From HEAVEN,"_** to Paul, THE FIRST one BAPTIZED "Into CHRIST,"*
*""BY"" The ONE Spirit, so It IS Correct To teach "It IS God's OPERATION!," The*
*ONE And ONLY Baptism **_For today!_*
*(Ephesians 4 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13; Colossians 2 : 10-12!)*
Personally, i LEFT The "watered" down message *Of GRACE,* in IFB, Because of
their BAD MATH = *ONE Spirit Baptism!* + "water" baptism = TWO baptismS,
Correct? *(Ephesians 4 : 5!!)*
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Under The LAW!:
Now, "Back To Pentecost!" (As MANY Are "calling" for today!), AND thus,
"adding" to ALL The Confusion!!:
(1) *This "Holy Spirit Baptism" IS NOT "BY," But IT IS "WITH!"* Thus,
*There IS A Very LARGE **_Difference!_* Is there not? *CHRIST Himself*
*IS THE "Administrator" Of "This WITH" Baptism, Sending The Holy Ghost*
*Upon The Jews For: "power As HIS witnesses!"* Correct?
(2) *This WITH" Baptism Occurred Only AFTER* they were "water" baptized
(in Obedience!) FOR THE REMISSION Of sins!!! Pentecost had TWO baptismS!
{ surely, ALL "expert" Bible students Can Find ALL The Verses "proving" this? }
Thus, this "ekklesia" is The Jewish Messianic church, a
"political" kingdom "assembly!" *_On The EARTH!_*
{ The OLD "Dispensation" *Now Held In Abeyance, By God,* WHEN HIS "Chosen"
NATION, Of *"Israel FELL!" (Romans 11 :11!)...*
LAW! Correct? { Please STOP "Mixing" LAW "With" *GRACE!* }, but GET THEM:
*Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From **_"Things That DIFFER!:"_*
*...God Ushering In HIS "NEW Dispensation Of GRACE!"*
*(Kept SECRET "In God!" = MYSTERY!)*
*GRACE!: The Church, The Body Of CHRIST, IS The ONE "NEW" man, (BOTH*
*(Jew AND Gentile!), Of Today! - - This "ekklesia" Is "A Spiritual Organism!"*
*Seated In The HEAVENLIES! (Romans - Philemon!) Again, BIG "Difference!"*
*(1) "Began" With CHRIST Appearing To HIS "Worst enemy," Paul, And*
*Saving* him *"BY" Pure GRACE (NO "works!"), And MERCY!*
on the road to Damascus! *(Acts 9!!)*
*(2) Paul is "THE Pattern" For ALL, In { LongSuffering } GRACE, who would*
*"HereAfter Be SAVED!" ( THE "FIRST" = 1 Timothy 1 : 16!)*
{ compare "Peter's acknowledgment" *Of God's "CHANGE!" in Acts 15 : 11,*
*Because Of "God's ACTION" In Acts 10 : 36-46, BEFORE "water" baptism! }*
Amen?
{ Thus "Demolishing" ( *For The GRACE Dispensation!* ), the "pattern" of
The "Law Saving water *(Luke 7 : 29-30!)* baptism" Of Pentecost! Correct? }
*(3) The Simplicity Of CHRIST!, Under GRACE!!:*
*(A) sinners Repent/Place 100% faith In CHRIST, HIS BLOOD,*
*And HIS Resurrection! = ETERNAL Salvation!* Amen?
*(B) saints love/worship God And love their neighbor!*
*(Fulfilling ALL The Law! Romans 14!) { Thus, NO More Need for*
*"arguing/debating" Law, Sabbath, diet, etc. }*
*(C) CHRIST Himself Comes To "Gather To Himself," ALL Of HIS Body*
*(When "Complete!"), And Take them To HEAVEN, For JUDGMENT*
*And serving/reigning With HIM! (1 Corinthians 15 : 51-57, 3 : 8-15;*
*1 Thessalonians 4 : 13-18; 2 Corinthians 5 : 1!)*
*Redemption/GLORIFICATION Of HIS Body!!* Amen? ♫😇↑
simple ABC's?
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And Then, AFTER ( *The MYSTERY "Closes,"* ), that (Prophecy) which
*Was "Held In Abeyance"...* Continues: *God Finally Fulfilling, FOR Israel,*
Daniel's 70th Week, Time Of JACOB's Trouble!
(Daniel, Matthew, And Revelation!)
Conclusion: *Confusion "Completely Conquered!" Amen?*
bro Chris
(FULL "study" Of *ALL (13) baptismS* still "available" - - IF you "wish"...)
I am willing to accept that if you can show me scripture to illustrate the removal of this requirement. I keep hearing this but no one will show me scripture pointing to the removal of this requirement.
The works referred to in scripture are pointing to the works of the Law from what I can see. Are you saying john is wrong in requirement of obedience? How about repentance, is this not required? These are serious questions I would like answered with scripture to backup views.
You're adding to scripture, no where in the verse you read did it say to profess Jesus as Lord and Savior, it simply says to repent and be baptized.
Romans 10:9 says to confess that Jesus is Lord
Alejandro go with the virgen marry dude.we worship God here not statues made of crap
He didn't engage at all with the theology behind the reasons why presbyterians baptize their babies. If Baptism is only the outward sign of faith, then why did Jesus get baptized? And the old baptist argument that believers should be baptized collapses when you realize that there is a lot of non regenerates in baptist churches. He would get embarrased in a debate with Sproul , DeYoung or Pratt.
*GRACE And Peace From God, The Father, And, From The LORD JESUS CHRIST!*
Note: without *God's Holy Spirit,* it will Be IMPOSSIBLE to "understand"
*God's "Baptisms" Doctrine (1 Corinthians 2 : 13-14!),* so,
*The Following!* Must Occur FIRST! Amen?:
*God's GREATEST News Ever = HIS Gospel Of The Amazing GRACE Of God!*
For ALL who have NOT YET *Been WASHED IN THE BLOOD!*
Do you Desire ETERNAL Condemnation? If so, then just please
"remain" as you are - In "UNbelief": 😢 ↓ (Luke 18 : 11-12!)
for ALL others who wish to be "humble" ♫😇↑ (Luke 18 : 13-14!):
*FAITH Cometh By hearing, And hearing By The Word Of God!:* Amen?:
*(ALL Scriptures From God's Preserved WORD = KJV! ##)*
*The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God! = God's ETERNAL Salvation! By:*
100% faith (heart belief, trust!) in *The LORD JESUS CHRIST,*
*In HIS Blood, And In HIS Resurrection! = God's ETERNAL Life!!*
*(Romans 10 : 17; 1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4 And Ephesians 2 : 5-10!)*
*Good Works Will Not Save you, But Will Get you Rewards At:*
*The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)*
***Note1: Verse 15! Teaches ETERNAL SALVATION "Despite Loss!"***
***Note2: IF you just BELIEVED This AND your Are The LAST "member"*
*Of The Body Of CHRIST, we Are Going To Be Raptured Outta Here,*
*so, learn This Right NOW, And you Will Receive A crown At Judgment!:***
*"Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,*
*Which The LORD, The Righteous Judge, Shall Give me At That Day:*
*And not to me only, but unto All them also that love HIS Appearing!"*
*(2 Timothy 4 : 8!)* Amen?
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IF you are in any "religion" with ONE "false doctrine," it is UNclean!,
Please *Obey God, WHO Commands:*
*"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, Saith*
*The LORD, And touch not the unclean thing; and I Will Receive you,*
*And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,*
*Saith The LORD Almighty!" (2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)*
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Therefore:
*God's ETERNAL Salvation Is THE Best Motivation For "true"*
*believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!*
rather than "serving out of FEAR" of "losing Probationary" salvation!:
*"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,*
*And of love, and of a sound mind!" (1 Timothy 1 : 7!)*
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continued in *God's THIRTEEN (13) Scriptural Baptisms!...*
Truth 1_7 = *THIRTEEN (13) Scriptural Baptisms*
GRACE And Peace To ALL Of *God's Diligent Bible students!*
Mostly *Scripture!,* with some "thought-for-food" questions
placed at appropriate points, for your prayerful/careful "consideration."
Because of "the Mainstream "practice"" of "denominational "fragmented And
Pet" verses supposedly "teaching" "their particular view of ""water"" baptism:
This *Bible study* attempts, For *The Honor And Glory Of God, to Present ALL Of*
*HIS Scriptural Evidence For HIS Truth For us TODAY! After ALL, HE Did Exhort:*
*"ALL SCRIPTURE Is Given By Inspiration Of God, And Is Profitable For*
*doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:*
*that the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished Unto*
*ALL good works!" (2 Timothy 3 : 16-17!)*
We hope And pray that Any And ALL "confused" over the "Division of Many Over
""water, "" will be Truly Blessed With This *Solving The Confusion study!*
If I "happened" to "miss" Anything, please kindly "let me know." God Bless ALL!
*ALL Glory And Honor To HIM!* Amen?:
Truth 1_7 OutLine:
1_7a = *Twelve (12) Scriptural Baptisms*
*Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!)* From:
1_7b = *ONE (1) Scriptural Baptism*
Truth 1_7a *Twelve (12) Scriptural Baptisms*
*LORD JESUS, Thank you so much for Your LOVE to us. We need*
*SuperNatural Help today, so, please Forgive us where we have*
*“misunderstood” Thy Word, and “failed” You. We humbly ask for*
*The Enlightenment Of Your Wonderful Teacher To us, The Blessed*
*Holy Spirit, to Grant us Peace as we obey Your Precious Word And*
*Endeavor For Unity to solve the horrible confusion which has Your*
*Body, The Church, all divided up. In Your Blessed Name we pray.*
Amen.
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Does *God Require For us TODAY!* one or more of these?:
*Twelve (12) baptisms!* in:
The Prophetic Program of God (For HIS Nation Israel Under LAW):
1. Noah’s type {figurative} baptism (Genesis 6 : 13; 1 Peter 3 : 20-21)
Peter, the apostle to the circumcision (Jews), writes to the “elect
strangers,” (ch 1 vs 1-2) And mentions to them that eight people
were “saved by water!”
Did “water” baptism “save” the Jews?
2. Baptism unto Moses (Exodus 14 : 29; 1 Corinthians 10 : 12)
Paul presents Israel’s baptism unto Moses “in the cloud and in the sea!”
Saving “baptism” or spiritual “identification” with God’s leader of HIS people?
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(various *washings! Greek: Baptismos* = Hebrews 9 : 10):
3. Israel’s ceremonial cleansings (Exodus 19 : 14, 30 : 17-21;
Leviticus 11 : 25; Numbers 19 : 13) These cleansing rituals were
required under the Mosaic Law for the cleansing of the people.
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*4. Levitical priesthood baptism (Exodus 29 : 4;*
*Leviticus 8 : 6; Numbers 8 : 7) This washing was The First*
*Requirement in order to become a priest under the Law of Moses!*
*Is this baptism in any way "connected" to # 9?*
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5. Traditional Jewish baptisms (Matthew 15 : 12; Mark 7 : 19; Luke 11 : 38)
These washings were not mandated under the Law
but were part of Jewish tradition.
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6. *JESUS’ Baptism* by John (Matthew 3 : 13-17; Mark 1 : 9-10) *JESUS,*
*Who Knew NO sin, Was Baptized by John to Fulfill All Righteousness!*
7. *JESUS’ Baptism* With Fire
(Isaiah 4 : 4; Malachi 3 :23; Matthew 3 : 11; Luke 3 : 16)
*JESUS Will Baptize the nation of Israel with fire when they are in*
*Great Tribulation in the Time Of Jacob’s Trouble!* (Is this also for
the “chaff” when separated from the wheat?)
8. *JESUS’ Baptism Unto Death!* (Matthew 20 : 22-23;
Mark 10 : 38-39; Luke 12 : 50)
*JESUS’ Second Baptism Which HE Accomplished On The Cross, Where*
*HE Was Identified With the sins of Israel, as well as the rest of the world!*
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9. baptism of repentance that John preached (Before The Cross),
And Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach!
(Mt 3 : 5-6; Mk 1 : 4; Luke 3 : 3; John 1 : 31; *Luke 7 : 29-30;* Acts 10 : 37)
(Acts 2 : 38; Mk 16 : 16; Mt 28 : 19; Acts 22 : 16; Eze 36 : 25)
Does this baptism “save” anyone? *(Luke 7 : 29-30?)*
Is this baptism “for today”?
*Is this baptism in any way "connected" to # 4? Wasn't John "preparing"*
*National Israel for God's Promise of a "nation of priests unto God"?*
*And, What Was The First Requirement for "induction"? Washing, correct?*
{ may require re-review of *baptism #4!* }
10. Pentecostal Spirit baptism
This is the baptism *WITH The Holy Spirit By*
*JESUS CHRIST* from heaven poured out upon the
believing remnant of Israel with signs and powers following.
(Isaiah 44 : 3; Matthew 3 : 11; Mark 1 : 8, 16 : 17-18; Luke 24 : 49;
Acts 2 : 17-18, 38; Acts 8 : 15-17; Acts 11 : 16)
*And, The Other Requirement For "priesthood induction" = anointing, correct?*
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11. Gentile baptism(s) of Cornelius (Acts 10 : 45-48; 15 : 9-11)
Cornelius was baptized *WITH The Holy Spirit as a “sign” from*
*God* to Peter. Peter subsequently baptizes Cornelius and
the other Spirit-filled Gentiles with water. {"Not" saved by water?)
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12. Baptism for the dead (1 Corinthians 15 : 29)
No sound “interpretation” (I don’t think) has yet to be offered
for this! {Mormons are kept in “busy bondage” using this
connected with *“endless genealogies" #,* to “supposedly”
SAVE those already passed in death!
*This "theory" Has NO “Scriptural” Basis, As It Is*
*“appointed once to die, and after that = Judgment!” ##*
All sinners need to make the correct decision “in THIS life,
BEFORE Death Occurs!}
*(# FORBIDDEN = 1Timothy 1 : 4; ## death/judgment = Hebrews 9 : 27)*
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*End of “The Twelve (12) baptisms” Of God’s Prophetic Program!*
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*Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!)* From…
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*God's Revelation Of The Mystery {for Jews And Gentiles, Under GRACE}:*
*Bible Baptism # 13:* =
Continued in Next Post = Truth 1_7b *ONE (1) Scriptural Baptism!*
Truth 1_7b *ONE (1) Scriptural Baptism*
Previously we studied/reviewed the *12 Bible Baptisms Of God,* Found In:
The Prophetic Program of God (For HIS Nation Israel Under LAW)!
We hope And pray that ALL "humble" students, Of *God's HOLY Word!,*
still have "their Final Verdict on hold!," if you will, Until *ALL Of The*
*Rest Of God's Evidence* has been "presented" for Consideration:
Let us Now Prayerfully Review, With *God's Mandate Of Rightly!*
*Dividing HIS Precious Word Of Truth, In Order To Be Approved Unto HIM!:*
*LORD JESUS, we again humbly come before you and ask for You to*
*open our understanding Of Your Precious And HOLY Word. Thanks.* Amen.
*God's ONE Baptism! Found In:*
*God's Revelation Of The Mystery {for Jews And Gentiles, Under GRACE}:*
For us, “today” = *ONE Baptism Into {The Body Of} CHRIST:*
*The Only Baptism taught by Paul, Which “spiritually Identifies”*
*the believer With CHRIST, His Death, and His Resurrection!*
*This Baptism Is Performed BY The Holy Spirit* and
does Not include "water." *It Is The Operation Of God!*
(Ephesians 4 : 5; Colossians 2 : 12; Galatians 3 : 27;
Romans 6 : 3-4; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13!)
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Expanded Version, For your *Edification/spiritual Building Up!,* follows:
*God’s Doctrine of ONE Baptism Under HIS GRACE!*
Grace and Peace! To ALL Dear Readers who have “persevered”
through the many previous “baptisms,” and have come to this
point of “weighing” *ALL Of God’s Scriptural Evidence In*
*HIS Very Important Doctrine Of Baptisms!*
Is *God’s Doctrine of ONE Baptism* {as many "think"}, water?
*We are "spiritually identified with" (baptized into) CHRIST, His*
*Crucifixion, His Death, His Burial, and His Resurrection!*
(Sounds like *The Greatest News* I've Ever heard!), so…
*...some of The Confirming Scriptures:*
*Romans 6 : 3 ...Baptized Into JESUS CHRIST...Baptized Into HIS Death!*
*Romans 6 : 4 ...Buried With HIM By Baptism Into Death!*
*Romans 6 : 6 ...Crucified (JESUS' Baptism?) With HIM!* - And also:
*“For as many of you as Have Been BAPTIZED Into*
*CHRIST Have Put On CHRIST!”* (Galatians 3 : 27)
{ Major NOTE: NO “water” Found “In The Context” Of
Any Of *These Baptism Passages!* } Agree?
*With The SuperNatural Help Of The Blessed Holy Spirit, And Comparing*
*spiritual Scripture WITH spiritual Scriptures (1 Corinthians 2 : 13),*
*This Baptism Makes us "spiritually":*
*“COMPLETE In HIM, WHO Is The Head Of*
*ALL principality and power!” (Colossians 2 : 10!)*
*“...The Circumcision Made WITHOUT HANDS { God’s Operation? }*
*...The Circumcision Of CHRIST!” (Colossians 2 : 11!)*
*“Buried With HIM In BAPTISM, Wherein Also ye Are Risen With*
*HIM Through The Faith [ Faithfulness ] Of THE OPERATION Of God,*
*WHO Hath RAISED HIM From The Dead!” (Colossians 2 : 12!),* AND,
*“Not by works of righteousness which we have done,*
*But According To His Mercy HE SAVED us By The*
*WASHING of REGENERATION {God’s Operation?},*
*And RENEWING Of The Holy Ghost!” (Titus 3 : 5!)*
*“Which HE Shed on us Abundantly Through*
*JESUS CHRIST our SAVIOUR!” (Titus 3 : 6!)*
This Should *“Complete The ‘Spiritual’ OPERATION” of The Triune*
*GodHead,* BUT, Are we done *“Comparing ALL The Scriptures”*
*Of The ONE Baptism?*
We see That, In *The Revelation Of The Mystery (Gospel Of GRACE For*
*“us Today”),* a Prayerful and Careful study, *Rightly Divided, God Teaches:*
*Ephesians 4 : 5 - “...One LORD, one faith, ONE BAPTISM...”*
So, *What Saith The Scriptures “In It's Context,” About The*
*ONE Baptism?:*
*“Endeavouring to keep The Unity Of The Spirit in the bond of peace!*
*There is one Body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope*
*of your calling; One LORD, one faith, ONE Baptism, One God and Father*
*of ALL, Who Is Above ALL, and through ALL, and in you ALL!”*
*(Ephesians 4 : 3-6)*
{Are we All Really "endeavouring for this *"Unity"”?}*
Now, unless we are mistaken, there are 3 choices of understanding:
1) all “physical” = Destruction of “the context”, agreed?
2) “combo” of 6 Spiritual + 1 “physical,” lifted “out, and”
“isolated”
from the context, to be interpreted as “water” baptism =
Destruction of the context, agreed?
3) *These Seven Unities of God's Spirit are All “Spiritual,”* so
now we kindly/humbly ask, Is *God’s ONE Baptism “Spiritual”?*
Let us Make *One More Scriptural "Comparison" (1 Cor 2 : 13!),* And Ask:
*“What Saith The Scripture?” And, The Answer we "hear," From God, IS:*
*"For "BY" ONE [ Holy ] Spirit are we all Baptized { Spiritually "Identified with*
*CHRIST" } into ONE Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we*
*be bond or free; And Have Been ALL Made To Drink Into ONE [ Holy ] Spirit."*
*(1 Corinthians 12 : 13)*
If *This ONE BAPTISM* Is Not = *“The OPERATION Of God,”* then
we would have to “concede” that it is “men & religion with ‘water’”
that saves us - any takers?
Thus, ALL "True" Believers who come to *God In The Way God Has*
*Prescribed In His HOLY WORD, By The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God,*
*And Place Complete 100% faith In:*
*The LORD JESUS CHRIST, In HIS Precious BLOOD, And In HIS Resurrection!*
Will ALWAYS have:
*God's “Spiritual OPERATION” Of ETERNAL Salvation For EverMore!* Amen?
All in "agreement" with your "Final Verdict" Of Truth?
IF so, could that "Really" be the "start" of "practical earthly" *UNITY*
*Of The Already "spiritually UNITED" Church { In Heaven! },*
*Which Is HIS Body, Of CHRIST!? (Ephesians 4 : 3!)*
Thanks kindly For Your Patient Review of study!
Be Richly Blessed!
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*LORD JESUS, thank You for this Precious Word Of Truth that has Solved my*
*"confusion." May this also be used for the Encouragement of Many others.* Amen.
My question is is it ok to be baptized twice??? I should look that up in the bible. I was baptized as an infant and that could be a convent or dedication with the parents and godparents to bring the child up as best as possible through Christ. And I wanna say it really worked out as I see it now
One faith, one Lord, one baptism
most protestant churches vs catholic church, now go listen to a priest and see his input on the issue.
BELIEF is essentail BEFORE Christian baptism as Brother Phillip plainly states to the wise and serious follower of Christ:
"35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water:
and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
37 And Philip said, **If thou believest** with all thine heart, thou mayest.**
And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing"
Acts 8:35-39 (KJV)
Thus any baptism without belief is FAKE and has no Biblical authentictiy.
Grace And Peace, Earnestly. Have you Prayerfully/Carefully _Considered:_
Yes, *It Is Scripturally True,* _water_ WAS Necessary, In *God's **_Previous_*
*Dispensation of LAW, "But NOW, In HIS Dispensation Of GRACE,"* is NO LONGER
Required, *Due To "HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY, With **_Only_** ONE Baptism!"* -----------------------------------------------------
{ *FULL "study"* in "link" below...} - - *BaptismS Scriptural SUMMARY!:* And,
*Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed In CHRIST, And HIS Word Of Truth!:*
*LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to ALL of your Truth.* Amen:
*God’s **_Previous_** “Dispensation Of HIS LAW!”:*
Prophecy/Law: ►►► The Twelve *WERE SENT* to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3 : 5-6; Mark 1 : 4; Luke 3 : 3; John 1 : 31; *Luke 7 : 29-30;* Acts 10 : 37)
(Matthew 28 : 19; *Mark 16 : 16; Acts 2 : 38;* Acts 22 : 16; Ezekiel 36 : 25)
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B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44 : 3; Matthew 3 : 11; *Mark 1 : 8, 16 : 17-18;* Luke 24 : 49;
*Acts 2 : 17-18, 38;* Acts 8 : 15-17; Acts 11 : 16)
*Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From **_"Things That DIFFER!":_*
*God’s **_CURRENT_** “Dispensation Of HIS GRACE!”:*
*Mystery/GRACE!:*
►►► Paul *Was NOT SENT* to {water} baptize! WHY NOT?: ◄◄◄
*_Today:_** Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,*
*Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!*
*(Ephesians 4 : 5; Colossians 2 : 12; Galatians 3 : 27;*
*Romans 6 : 3-4; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13!)*
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Conclusion: *God's ONE Baptism **_Today?_** = ONE?* OR, EQUALS TWO?
Thus, there is NO "christian water baptism."
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Due to ALL The "Confusion" of ALL "religions," I simply live by:
*RULE # 1: Always Exalt The LIVING Word, The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And*
*HIS Preserved/Inspired/Profitable Written Word! ALONE!! ABOVE All Else!*
*(Psalm 148 : 13, 138 : 2; 1 Corinthians 4 : 6 KJB!)* Amen?
Rule # 2: IF And WHEN you "start" Lifting up men/women/religion/their "UNinspired
writings/traditions!," Then, *IMMEDIATELY REFER* yourSELF *To RULE # 1!!* Amen, And AMEN!
Earnestly, Again, *Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed!*
Saint Christopher
*Very Important QuestionS!:*
*Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "NO* water baptism, for us *Today," Under*
*HIS PURE GRACE, Absolutely Vanquishes* "Satan's Confusion" Into *OBLIVION!!?*
Is water *Required By God* _Today?_ *ALL BIBLE baptismS* "study" *(#7)* is here:
ruclips.net/channel/UCyxdRMbcLVBWY1HV2Fv8ALQdiscussion -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
PS: What think ye?:
*"Solves* _ALL "religious" Confusion"?_ =
*NO "Other" Doctrine Than "Right Division!"*
{Perchance Disobedience to *THIS **_"Sound_** Doctrine" Of God!* is _The Cause_
Of ALL Of The "Controversial/Contradictory/Confusing/DIVIDING" Issues? }:
www.bereanbiblesociety.org/no-other-doctrine-but-right-division/?Berean+Bible+Society&SEARCHLIGHT&
Babies and little kids have no sin Matthew 18 states this baptism requres confession babies cannot confess while little kids do not even know what the confession is for we can only baptism kids who have matured and know the difference between right and wrong and they are aware of what will happen if they dont get baptized this is usually around the age of 12 and 13 going upwards any child less than might not be aware why they r getting baptized thus they are sinless
repent and be baptist. this is old children not infant. even if im 50 years old. im still a child of my parents. please be cleared about baptism. before baptism repentance needs to happen. i just want to share this base on my experience, im not fully aware about the meaning of baptism thats why i backslided i did not take the baptism seriuosly. so it means that the true meaning of baptism is rejuvenation after repentance. infant baptism is just a tradition that we believe not what Jesus told us. we are saved through faith so no one may boast. i just want to let all the christians know that this is not mandatory. this is not a sin. be a parent that praise God and give thanks. focus on that instead. please christians dont argue about this. this is a choice .
There is absolutely nothing gained by getting anyone wet. Period. Baptism by water is a purely SYMBOLIC act of obedience. " For Christ sent me NOT to baptize, but to preach the gospel." ( 1Corinthians 1:14-17) Is Paul going against the great commission in Matt.28? No! That was to the Jews present not to Gentiles. When the believer trusts Christ as Savior, that moment " by one Spirit he is baptized into one body" 1Corinthians 12:13) and thus "baptized into Christ"(Galatians 3:27) There is no room for a water ceremony here. No human rite or ceremony can place the believer " Into Christ". The one baptism of the one body is performed by the " one Spirit"--not by a preacher or priest.
You are taking scripture out of context because it is what you have been taught. Ask why did Paul say For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel,? The answer is within the scripture you quote but you only focus on this...Why? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (I did baptize also the household of Stephanas. Beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
verse 15 ...so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name. Why? verse 17 lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power. The people were arguing about who they should follow. Read the verses just proceeding this...
I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment. 11 For it has been reported to me by Chloe's people that there is quarreling among you, my brothers. 12 What I mean is that each one of you says, “I follow Paul,” or “I follow Apollos,” or “I follow Cephas,” or “I follow Christ.” 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
His point is not that baptism is not required but that they were baptized into Christ and they should all be in agreement following Christ not the one who baptized them but the one who they were baptized into.
Need more proof?
Acts 19:1-7 If baptism wasn't required to recieve the Holy Spirit, Why did Paul say it was and re-baptize 12 people?
1It happened that while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul passed through the upper country and came to Ephesus, and found some disciples. 2He said to them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?” And they said to him, “No, we have not even heard whether there is a Holy Spirit.” 3And he said, “Into what then were you baptized?” And they said, “Into John’s baptism.” 4Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.” 5When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they began speaking with tongues and prophesying. 7There were in all about twelve men.
Paul clearly points out that baptism is a working of God not man. In Colossians 2:12, underline the expression “working of God,” and record this notation: Salvation through baptism a working of God; not a work of human merit.
If water baptism wasnt necessary, why did Peter direct Cornelius and his household to be baptised
AFTER they received the Holy Spirit?
There is no description, example, mandate, mention of infant baptism in the Bible. How can anyone defend that, is beyond me.
There is nothing that says that it is absolutely forbidden either.
There is no description, mandate or example of women taking the Lord's Supper either. Yet it is clearly in keeping with Scripture.
Odin's Valhalla come on man! That’s not the Love of Christ. You give us Lutherans a bad name.
YouthfulSage lol 😂 good one
even Christ as a baby was taken to the high priest by mary and joseph to be presented to god, as it was costum in the old law, in the new covenant we are washed from original sin, we are stained with original sin because of the fall of adam and eve in the garden, and no longer have enternal life, wich god intended for us to have. in infant baptism we are presenting our our child to god, and blessing them with the gift of the holy spirit, and washing them of this original sin. i know children know nothing of this, this doesnt mean it doesn't exist, nor does it mean that jesus christ does not love all children because he does, very much so. In the Catholic faith, when the child is at the age of reason and Confirm their faith through the sacrament of confirmation and profess there faith openly to the church.
Kimberly Reeves so if I were be born around a time and place where Christianity wasn't there, I would go to hell just for being born?
Why even pray when god has a "divine" plan and a guy who prays for a Rolex can easily destroy gods "Devine plan"
...interesting. Except none of what you said is scripturally accurate.
Peter Black you should read the Old Testament because plenty of people wanted to uphold righteousness and I don't think that they're going to hell. check out the story of Moses. It's the book Exodus.
Kimberly Reeves
1.Baptism is not clearing you from original sin.Its conffesing your faith in Jesus Chrkst to the whole world.
2.'Presenting your child to God"?
What?You can present you child in you home why would you baptise it?
3.I live in a catholic country and I tell you, the sacrament of 'confirmation' is just people having lunch together and then partying,getting drunk,lusting for each other till 4 am.Its tottaly unbiblical.
Come on man. You can pray to God that He opens you eyes so that you can see false doctrines.
Don't pray to Mary or the other saints.And don't repeat the Lords prayer 50 times in a row.Pray with passion.
“Why doesn’t the child bear his parent’s guilt?” The child has acted justly and responsibly. The child kept all my regulations and observed them. The child will surely live. 20 Only the one who sins will die. A child won’t bear a parent’s guilt, and a parent won’t bear a child’s guilt. Those who do right will be declared innocent, and the wicked will be declared guilty. Ezekiel 18
The unfortunate thing about this video is that e host seems to be nodding and no one is challenging this man with other scripture.
This is a secondary issue and does end up falling to preference of parents, HOWEVER the biblical scriptures as a whole absolutely point to infant baptism and without doing theological gymnastics, it’s apparent in scripture that a member of a family who is newly saved baptized their whole household. This would be the wife/husband, children, infants and servants as well as extended family. That’s was an entire household means.
Infant baptism is traced back to 130AD and wasn’t contested Until after 1600. And it’s a VERY small Christian circle who believes only believers should be baptized, and mostly they are okay with baptizing 5 year olds who will listen to their parents if they are at all convincing.
I just wish there was more debate and conversation and less of this guy cherry picking scripture to make his point and avoiding the large majority of scriptures surrounding baptism that point to the whole family.
Maybe one day he’ll have a lively debate with someone with a different view though.
Then please explain how a baby- infant‐child makes a confession of faith for the remission of their sin with total understanding!
@@alvinmorsejr.2576 do YOU totally understand the way baptism works or more specifically, the way God acts and works within the act of baptism? Or communion? Or any act of God for that matter? Baptism is “symbolically” welcoming someone into the Church universal. Preventing the baptism of a child is Making a stance that the child is not a member of the church. Infant baptism is the natural conclusion to draw from Christian’s who have been saved.
Allowing God to be mysterious isn’t weak or a stupid position. We don’t need a well defined answered for every spiritual matter. The early church fathers we baptizing children in the second century and there’s plenty of material out there to prove that. Would you say the people who were direct disciples of John the apostle or Paul or Peter are wrong because you say so?
"Baptism is an outward sign of an inward faith"
What is "Something the Bible never says"?
todd wagner you need to do your own show, or make your own youtube channel or something you seem to have a lot to offer
I’ve always been a believer and I was raised in the Lord and I still am,but I was baptized as a baby.Do I have to get baptized again?
RollerCoasterWolf Boy no. God washed you and you received the gift of forgiveness by pure grace. God’s washing you cannot be redone because it is God who washes us in baptism, Ephesians 5:25-27. It isn’t something we do as a work to show God anything.
Yes. Jesus set an example on us. And He was baptized.
Yes and no the baptism u had as a baby is not valid no where in the Bible are we commanded to baptize babies because babies have no sin Matthew 19 states that,when we get baptized its for the forgiveness of sins and gift of the Holy Spirit baptism requires confession as we see in the book of Acts so babies cannot confess so you are not baptized that Baptism is not valid so u need to be baptized in Christ's Christ and only Church which is found in the book of Matthew 16
no, you don't. Your baby baptism was valid, as a sign and seal of the New Covenant.
No
Baptism is NOT an outward sign of an inward expression. Nowhere in the bible is that ever implied, or taught. It is for the remission of sins and since babies do not have sin they should not be baptized.
@Billy original sin is the inheritance of sinful nature. You are not born with the guilt of what your ancestors did (read Ezekiel 18), but you do inherit the knowledge of good and evil from Adam which allows you to consciously violate God’s law (romans 5). Babies are not physically or mentally capable of breaking God’s law.
@Billy because they don’t need to be baptized. They haven’t committed any sins that need to be forgiven, so they don’t need baptism.
Why???? They don't know right from wrong. I was baptized as an infant and I remember nothing of it? Babies are not able to choose whom they will serve.
You can choose who you serve when you get older! And fulfill the baptism
That was some mental gymnastics there for sure. I don’t think the catholic or orthodox position was represented there at all.
Yeah. Also many of the traditional Protestant denominations practice infant baptism as well such as Lutherans, Anglicans, Presbyterians, and Methodists.
He's wrong. Advocating a second baptism? That communicates to God that you do not trust the power of the first baptism. The bible is very clear that baptism happens ONCE!
Babies were included wherever baptism is spoken of in its various forms throghout the bible. The power comes from God, not the understanding of the recipient.
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*God's "Baptisms" Doctrine (1 Corinthians 2 : 13-14!),* so,
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*And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,*
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*believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!*
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*GRACE And Peace From God, The Father, And, From The LORD JESUS CHRIST!*
Note: without *God's Holy Spirit,* it will Be IMPOSSIBLE to "understand"
*God's "Baptisms" Doctrine (1 Corinthians 2 : 13-14!),* so,
*The Following!* Must Occur FIRST! Amen?:
*God's GREATEST News Ever = HIS Gospel Of The Amazing GRACE Of God!*
For ALL who have NOT YET *Been WASHED IN THE BLOOD!*
Do you Desire ETERNAL Condemnation? If so, then just please
"remain" as you are - In "UNbelief": 😢 ↓ (Luke 18 : 11-12!)
for ALL others who wish to be "humble" ♫😇↑ (Luke 18 : 13-14!):
*FAITH Cometh By hearing, And hearing By The Word Of God!:* Amen?:
*(ALL Scriptures From God's Preserved WORD = KJV! ##)*
*The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God! = God's ETERNAL Salvation! By:*
100% faith (heart belief, trust!) in *The LORD JESUS CHRIST,*
*In HIS Blood, And In HIS Resurrection! = God's ETERNAL Life!!*
*(Romans 10 : 17; 1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4 And Ephesians 2 : 5-10!)*
*Good Works Will Not Save you, But Will Get you Rewards At:*
*The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)*
***Note1: Verse 15! Teaches ETERNAL SALVATION "Despite Loss!"***
***Note2: IF you just BELIEVED This AND your Are The LAST "member"*
*Of The Body Of CHRIST, we Are Going To Be Raptured Outta Here,*
*so, learn This Right NOW, And you Will Receive A crown At Judgment!:***
*"Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,*
*Which The LORD, The Righteous Judge, Shall Give me At That Day:*
*And not to me only, but unto All them also that love HIS Appearing!"*
*(2 Timothy 4 : 8!)* Amen?
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IF you are in any "religion" with ONE "false doctrine," it is UNclean!,
Please *Obey God, WHO Commands:*
*"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, Saith*
*The LORD, And touch not the unclean thing; and I Will Receive you,*
*And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,*
*Saith The LORD Almighty!" (2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)*
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Therefore:
*God's ETERNAL Salvation Is THE Best Motivation For "true"*
*believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!*
rather than "serving out of FEAR" of "losing Probationary" salvation!:
*"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,*
*And of love, and of a sound mind!" (1 Timothy 1 : 7!)*
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continued in *God's THIRTEEN (13) Scriptural Baptisms!...*
You're quoting scripture, which is great because God's precepts are perfect. But I fail to see how they relate to what I said about infant baptism. Are you advocating believers baptist or infant baptism?
That is an assumption not a scriptural fact ( the need for infant baptism), Infant baptism is a Catholic ritual based on original sin which is false. . If you were to read my lengthy reply as you admitted to not doing, you would understand. You are correct, the power that is in baptism does not come from man but from God as you would have seen had you read my reply ( see Gal. 2:12). After reading your responds to anime enthusiast, I can clearly understand now the intent of your statement before. Please show us one scripture that shows an infant being immersed. You will not find it. You also will not find one saying they were not, but you will find a plethora of scriptures allowing us to draw the conclusion they were not sense they are innocent. How can you learn if you don't read others comments regardless of length? It is within these replies that we can find truth if we really wish to. However, if we simply wish to regurgitate things we've heard or been taught that fits our preferred narrative, it is impossible to learn truth.
@@bethlehemrevisited787 Wow, you assume an awful lot of things about me. I have studied this issue. I have heard arguments on both sides, both supported by scripture. It simply isn't an issue to me that should divide Christians. It is not a salvation issue. Therefore it's not one that I find worthy of endless debate which is what usually happens on this impersonal communication mechanism from my experience.
It’s not confusing, God is not the author of confusion. Satan is! it’s repent and be baptized! How is that confusing? I won’t sit under or listen to teachers who believe in infant baptism. If they can’t understand what the Bible clearly teaches, How can I be taught by them in confidence that they know their scriptures. I can’t.
Acts 2:38-39
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.”
Paul clearly states that the promise of baptism is for their children as well, so why shouldn't children be baptized? Also, the church practiced infant baptism since its inception.
His Credo praxis is good. His Credo theology is off.
I was baptized at 5. FIVE. I never understood the stuff they are talking about at that age. NO young child understands such a complicated construct. I didn't want this.
If I believed what you believe I wouldn't have any children. I would petrified that they may go to hell. So you could be loving a hell bound child. Frightening.
If it is confusing, then it's not of the Lord.
Did the infants decide to be circumcised too or was that the choice of the parents?
You say that in circumcision you still had to decide to walk in the God of their fathers, isn't this the same thing as confirmation?
You go on to say that many that were circumcised did follow God and that there's many that were baptized as infants who didnt follow God. But the opposite is same too, you purposely left that out to make a point. Many who were circumcised didnt follow God. Many who have been baptized as infants have followed God. I'm not quite sure the purpose of what you were trying to do other than confuse people to agree with your doctrine.
I would say that scripture itself says that in order to be baptized you first have to repent for your sins, nor once is there has there been a person baptized in the bible that did not repent first, how is a baby that cant even speak or think for itself suppose to repent. And in the bible it is mentioned that the children were circumcised but there is no verse that says that a child was baptized, why would that be? Surely if it was thought we could just assume we can baptize everyone from what we read about circumcision then he would be able to apply that same logic to circumcision and there would be no use in clarifying that children should be circumcised, yet it is clarified that children were circumcised ,but nowhere in the bible is there any clarification that children should baptized. I would like to hear your reply to this because this could lead me or you to learning something new about our faith.
I don’t think it’s fair
Infant baptism is unscriptural baptism is for believers only babies cannot understand the principals of. Faith they can't receive the holy spirit yet the. Parents are responsible to raised their children in the fear of the lord I was baptized at age 21 my daughter got baptized at age 12 my son got baptized at age 11 they received the gift of the holy ghost at that age they spoke in tongues we are Oneness Apostolic believers.
Acts 2:38-39
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is to you and to your children, and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call.” Paul clearly states that the promise of baptism is for their children as well, so why shouldn't children be baptized? Also, the church practiced infant baptism since its inception.
I am Catholic, but believes in faith alone should Consider being re-bapized??
Mr. Truth no, there is one baptism. God has been for you since you were conceived
@@akimoetam1282 amen brother! But where should I Mary? In protestantism and Catholic tmgot the same Mary tradition?
Mr. Truth depends, I personally call her the Mother of God and Blessed Mary to honor her and the words and acts she did in the Gospel of Saint Luke. But I would refrain from praying to her.
@@akimoetam1282 no I mean married there is no protestantism and Catholicism so where should marriage take place?
Mr. Truth oh...a church?
Where in the bible does it talk about dedication? Saint Peter was talking in the present for the present. Stop adding and removing from the Bible. That is heresy.
He never says dedication is biblical it’s just an idea ceremoniously to show your family and community your intent to raise your child with Christ
I'm still confused
Grace And Peace, Vivian. Seem Most are _Confused!_ Hopefully *THIS*
will be helpful. Please Prayerfully/Carefully _Consider:_
Yes, *It Is Scripturally True,* _water_ WAS Necessary, In *God's **_Previous_*
*Dispensation of LAW, "But NOW, In HIS Dispensation Of GRACE,"* is NO LONGER
Required, *Due To "HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY, With **_Only_** ONE Baptism!"* -----------------------------------------------------
{ *FULL "study"* in "link" below...} - - *BaptismS Scriptural SUMMARY!:* And,
*Please Be Very RICHLY Blessed In CHRIST, And HIS Word Of Truth!:*
*LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to ALL of your Truth.* Amen:
*God’s **_Previous_** “Dispensation Of HIS LAW!”:*
Prophecy/Law: ►►► The Twelve *WERE SENT* to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3 : 5-6; Mark 1 : 4; Luke 3 : 3; John 1 : 31; *Luke 7 : 29-30;* Acts 10 : 37)
(Matthew 28 : 19; *Mark 16 : 16; Acts 2 : 38;* Acts 22 : 16; Ezekiel 36 : 25)
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B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44 : 3; Matthew 3 : 11; *Mark 1 : 8, 16 : 17-18;* Luke 24 : 49;
*Acts 2 : 17-18, 38;* Acts 8 : 15-17; Acts 11 : 16)
*Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From **_"Things That DIFFER!":_*
*God’s **_CURRENT_** “Dispensation Of HIS GRACE!”:*
*Mystery/GRACE!:*
►►► Paul *Was NOT SENT* to {water} baptize! WHY NOT?: ◄◄◄
*_Today:_** Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,*
*Spiritually "Identifying" members In (The Body Of) CHRIST!!*
*(Ephesians 4 : 5; Colossians 2 : 12; Galatians 3 : 27;*
*Romans 6 : 3-4; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13!)*
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Conclusion: *God's ONE Baptism **_Today?_** = ONE?* OR, EQUALS TWO?
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Look at that explanation.
do you go to hell if you beleive in jesus but have not been baptised
Spiderman NESBIT , No. baptism is not required for salvation. If we as believing Christians are able, we should. An example would be the thief on the cross next to Jesus professed and believed in Jesus. Jesus said "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise."
Luke 23:43
Romans 16:1 baptism is required Jesus got baptized in the Bible says it is a requirement and the person on the cross was with jesus so Jesus forgive him just cuz you don't feel like getting baptized doesn't make it true you need to get baptized cuz it is a requirement if didn't say it wasn't requirements as you do not need to get baptized but it says you do question why do you think it's not required where in the bible did it say you do not need to get baptized if you can you should and you can you will if you believe in Jesus and have repented and then you get the Holy Ghost and then you speak in tongues
It is required but the water baptizm is not what saves you but what jesus did on the cross
you have as an example on the cross the guy next to him wasn't baptized
@@paztrapal6686 faith and faith alone. You must have faith, realize you're lost and pray to God to save your soul. Is water baptism a bad thing? Certainly not.
But alot of people believe they're going to heaven because they was baptized in water. And that is certainly not true.
Christ baptizes with the Holy spirit of promise.
Christ was baptized in water because He was a Jew and under the old law. When christ was crucified and ascended to heaven, the new Covenant began.
We are only saved by grace through faith. Not by works, lest any man should boast.
It's not something we do, it is only about what God done!
Also baptism is a gift we receive from God. Can babies recieve gifts? Yes, that’s all they’re really good for.
Believer’s baptism is distinguished from infant baptism in that an infant, who has no understanding of the gospel, cannot be a “believer” in Christ. Believer’s baptism involves a person hearing the gospel, accepting Christ as Savior, and choosing to be baptized. It is his or her choice. In infant baptism, the choice is made by someone else, not the child being baptized. Those who baptize infants often teach that water baptism is the means by which the Holy Spirit is imparted to an individual. They base this idea primarily upon Peter’s words in Acts 2:38: “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” Those who hold this doctrine believe that the act of baptizing an infant sets the child apart and secures salvation. Nowhere in Scripture is the practice of infant baptism even implied. Some point to the few references of the apostles baptizing “households” (Acts 11:14; 16:15, 33), with the assumption that the households included infants, but this is going beyond what the text says.
In the New Testament, baptism by water was the natural result of saving faith and commitment to Jesus as Savior and Lord (Acts 2:42; 8:35-37). Since infants and small children cannot make an informed decision to profess Jesus as Lord, their baptism has no spiritual significance. If infant baptism made a baby right with God, then only children whose parents desired it would be “saved.” Those who did not have believing parents would be condemned as infants, an idea with no biblical foundation. Scripture is clear that God judges the heart of every person and judges or rewards each based on the decisions made by that individual, not by his or her parents (Romans 2:5-6, Jeremiah 17:10; Matthew 16:27; 2 Corinthians 5:10).
And Believers Baptism is man made.
Thanks
Yup!
(HOUSEHOLD MEANS FAMIELY) you won't find Family in the Bible... Acts 16:15 And when she was baptized, and her household, Acts 16:312 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
Hey mum and dad guess what! You guy's were like so horribly wrong! But I'm like so totally right! But don't worry! I'm going to re baptise myself because I totally love you!
Oy vey
@Fanie van Jaarsveld According to scripture, baptism is an immersion not a sprinkling and it is the choice of the one being baptized not the parent or any other person. In fact, the right baptism is so important that Paul re-baptized 12 disciples because they had not been baptized with Christs baptism and therefore had not received the Holy Spirit as promised in Acts 2:38. I have added the actual verse from the Catholic bible so you can see it there. Notice being baptized is equated to becoming a believer. How can an infant make this decision much less believe?
Acts 19:1-5 While Apollos was in Corinth, Paul traveled through the interior of the country and came (down) to Ephesus where he found some disciples.
2 He said to them, “Did you receive the holy Spirit when you became believers?” They answered him, “We have never even heard that there is a holy Spirit.” 3 He said, “How were you baptized?” They replied, “With the baptism of John.” 4 Paul then said, “John baptized with a baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, in Jesus.”a 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
@Fanie van Jaarsveld How can someone go into a covenant with anyone or anything without being aware of it? Perhaps you have it wrong.
Bethlehem Revisited
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Since you want to talk about how sprinkling is invalid, watch this video.
'obviously there no baby that performs faith'.....hmmm... let's see... there is John the baptist and there is king David. And you know....John was not a 'Baptist'..:D Heh trying to be really funny here.. God Bless you all:)!
But what is the age of baptism?
I would say that is not about age, it is about repenting and accepting the Lord as your savior. a baby and most young children can not discern good and bad without their parents guiding them, how would they then even be able to repent and to accept the Lord.
Mark 16:16. And not a single mention in the Bible about infant baptism...that too sprinkle baptism or whatever.
The awnser is noooo
The catholic church is wrong.
Can I baptize myself?
No
NO BEAUTIFUL U CANT THAT WOULD B NICE THO
it serves no purpose
Keep reading that script