FINALLY! Update for Xbox Series S & X Consoles AMD Software + Hardware
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- The Xbox Series X console as well as the PS5 are quickly aging in their ability to run games as devs move into the next generation and upgraded game engines to push the industry forward. Now there are big improvements coming to the current Generation Xbox that will boost performance, increase image quality and take big games from 30fps to 60 and beyond!
The first two years of this console generation especially on the Xbox Series X console has seen nearly every single game run at 60 FPS some at 120 FPS and all at very high resolutions. As developers have started to move their way out of cross-generation game design and are pushing next generation games on brand new games engines we are seeing a concern from fans and tech analysts that we may be moving into a future of more 30 FPS games on modern hardware.
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What game is going to push from 30fps to 60fps next year?
Is this satire!?🤔
FSR3 doesn't work for games at 30fps they have to already be 60fps for it to do its job, that's what AMD said at Gamescom.... didn't they??
Baby Steps…
Minecraft 2
Starfield
Won't believe it until I see it at this point. I have a series X and although I am happy with it overall, the promises of power so far have not been met.
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Same here. Agree totally!
direct storage coming aswell
could not put it better myself, will say thou ,there is alot of lazy devolopers churning crap out for ridiculas amounts of money
@@adamtimmins4866Its not that developers are lazy its more of shareholders demand games to be pushed out while they still are in alpha newer bigger games require an insane amount of dev time which means share holders wont see a profit until the game is is 5-8 years to finish development completely so instead they make game devs release much earlier than it should its not the devs its the greed of shareholders in a public traded company
We’ve been hearing about this the last 2 years and still nothing
Exactly
Forget 120 fps, i just want games to be able to at least hit 60. Its been ridiculous how many titles have launched on current gen at 30 fps. Even Starfield, which i like.
I wish devs would stop prioritizing visuals and focus on smoother gameplay experiences. But hopefully this will help games hit the bare minimum of 60 fps.
I never seen 30 fps on any Ps5 game while in performance mode .
Even the newest AAA games like BDG3 and FF16.
Jedi Survivor is now 4k/60 fps after the new patch .
@@Crashed131963 thanks for mentioning, didn’t know they were still working on Jedi Survivor.
It's not true 4k, they are using FSR 2, so did FF16, that went down to 720p in most chaotic scenes, it's then upscaled to 4k.
PS4 Pro used checkerboarding.
e.g Warzone is 1080p upscaled to 4k, even a 4090 can't do 4k 120fps.
It's all smoke and mirrors.@@Crashed131963
@@Crashed131963 it is not native 4k in the slightest. it almost caps out at 1440p 60fps with alot of dips below in resolution. thats why the fsr 3 would be great it would add alot of headroom to help bump that res up
if it's not a multiplayer shooter I would always choose graphics over fps. I honestly don't see much of a difference unless there is a problem with frame stuttering which is most common in unreal engine games.
Always nice to see new software solutions to push performance on older hardware, but we barely see any of that in games. So will more game be able to achieve 60fps+ on console? I'll believe it when I see it.
already have you under a rock?
No the consoles are not aging devs are just lazy and can’t be asked to run games at 60fps so take the easy option it’s so sad that we live in this type of world tale starfield for example 100% it could run at 60fps they just could not be asked
the consoles are outdated,everyone say series s hold back the games on x,but the truth is consoles are holding back games because its old hardware,
games made ust for pc would look so much better,really take an adventage of the power of a pc
No, the consoles have aged already. Software can only carry the hardware so far. But poor optimization is a double whammy.
@@t2comicbooksoverviews251That’s how it’s always been though. And to an extent consoles aren’t holding games back they’re actually pushing them forwards because if all thats available are higher end PCs most console players wouldn’t buy them, which in turn would take TONS of money out of the overall gaming industry meaning lessened game development investment. So graphic wise, yes consoles hold the industry back. But consoles add TONS of money and value into the overall industry which helps EVERY platform get more games, and better games.
Imagine getting a next gen console and it’s outdated not even half way through the gen… that’s pretty ridiculous
@@Slimpickins45 I think most consoles are outdated within the 1st year of their release if they aren’t outdated right when they come out. That’s just part of having a console. The reason it doesn’t really matter to many console players (myself included) is that we aren’t really comparing them to PCs very much, that’s a losing game everytime. We are comparing them to our last console. When I play my Series X and compare it to my Old Xb1x, I notice huge differences and I really enjoy that. Any console player that’s buying a console to have one of the most powerful gaming systems out there, they’re totally tricking themselves. PCs will be and have always been 1 and sometimes 2 generations ahead of consoles if you buy high end.
We just need to give companies a kick up the ass that’s all it takes to sort this issue out
It's lazy even contemplating using this tech, it's 2023, the power is there and everything should be native but even 4k isn't 4k, it's all marketing.
Even a 4090 can just barely do 4k 60 max settings on most titles.
What makes me laugh is the 8k on the box on the PS5, it's a joke and not true.
@@RocketRenton 4090 can do on all titles In 4k and max graphics 👍
I’ll believe it when I see it. Been a lot of smoke and mirrors on what Sony and Microsoft said these consoles could and would do performance wise…. Yet 3 years later and we are still waiting.
I’m kindve there with ya on that. They keep on saying this shit and I ain’t seen nothing
Smoke and Mirrors has been the theme for years, I've been through it all since the 80's, the 90's were a wild west time with 3DO, CD-I etc.
Only time it was the real deal was the Dreamcast, that had the power of the arcade apart from a Neo Geo AES system or a Jamma.
And the same can be said for every generation. It always has and always will be the case that the last years of a consoles life is when they get pushed to their potential as developers figure out how to develop for new hardware.
But let's all sit around crying like this is a new thing aye? 😂
No, your expectations for what these consoles could actually do, was just ridiculous. If you knew anything about PC gaming & PC GPU's, you'd have known what to expect from these things.
I mean for me the biggest expectations set was the SSDs and loading times and for me those were met
Looking at how crappy PC ports are lately, I'd blame devs or their management teams for poor implementation.
I know right both Forza motorsport and starfield dont look that great on ultra settings on PC for how badly they run.
Oh yes the dev teams are DEFINITELY guilty too lol
And they want to raise their prices. What an absolute joke this generation has been.
Great vid Colt! Really looking forward to seeing FSR3.0 implemented into Xbox games going forward and seeing the improvements! Hopefully they start to use all the features to achieve better FPS and resolution on XSX/S.
Next generation needs to focus on the hardware and internal software that guarantees 4K 60fps for the standard. And seriously point out that in order to do so a hdmi 2.1 port and cable are absolutely necessary and a 4K tv with 120htz is recommended.
Exactly
But instead they seem more concerned with getting absolutely every human on earth to go full digital an pay EXTRA to play online smfh
They could make them all 60 fps now by downgrading visual performance but they choose a style and fidelity early on and design for that. They don't compromise because once it's shown that fidelity is what people expect or they start screaming that it was downgraded
4K 60 FPS can already be done on the current consoles so long as you basically have entirely last gen visuals. And next generation 4K 60 FPS will probably be possible with this generation's visuals. Native 4K is a waste of hardware resources, even on a high end PC. Out of improved graphics, and better framerates, a native resolution has the smallest impact to your experience.
@@richardfranklin6003I’m not fallowing. So you are saying that this gens stuff will work better on last gen TVs? What do you consider “visuals”, my friend?
No I'm saying something has to give, so if you want native 4K 60 FPS with zero compromise on that, then you can expect games to look a generation behind@@KillianWargear1921
I don't mind waiting until 2028 for next-gen consoles to experience hyper ray-tracing and all games at 60fps, bring it on Microsoft and Sony and AMD.
It won't happen because developers always find a way to screw everything up. I don't think we will see solid 60fps on next gen consoles. I promise you it will be the same struggle as now, if not worse.
@@JuanDiaz-jo1rw You make no sense.
Isn’t this what we were promised from the beginning?
60 fps has always been possible, but console gamers presumably prioritize visuals over framerates. Graphics have always been the default method to compare games and show progress. If the next COD looks worse or the same as the current game, but runs at a solid 120fps it will be considered worse than the preceding COD.
They are pretty powerful for the money paid. The gpu and cpu are decent. I don’t think they have a 6700xt level gpu, look at the performance/graphics quality in Jedi survivor and star field compared to a pc of the same specs
I think it was 6600 the most.
@@Xilent1 yeah I reckon you are probably correct.
My concern has always been that Microsoft is hell bent on making the Series X suffer due to it trying to make devs limp along with making the Series S run as well.
Exactly man they shouldn't have even made the x if they just gonna let the S hold it back
They should just make the x specs WAY better an just charge way more for the people that can afford it an don't mind paying a big chunk more for a much bigger upgrade smh
Not the case at all really, if a game ran well on Series S, then it should run *much* better on Series X at 2x the resolution and framerate, and we don't see that a lot of times. I can't name one developer, including Microsoft that is using Series hardware as intended. There are a lot of features for some reason that are not being tapped into. I do blame Microsoft for not pushing/helping in this area.
@@GORILLA_PIMP _"Exactly man they shouldn't have even made the x if they just gonna let the S hold it back"_ 🤦♂
FSR3 Is great!! But honestly it's just a band-aid for poor optimization....
The problem is not the hardware, but rather the techniques that they're using and engine optimization.
Don't say the hardware is out dated and you still have yet to even come close to reaching it's full potential.
This is why devs are having a hard time developing for weaker hardware, so I will give an essay on my opinion and the technology they could implement in there engines and what they should do if it's not possible, and too expensive.
1: -Sampler feedback streaming
Sampler Feedback Streaming (SFS) is a technique used in computer graphics to improve the efficiency of texture mapping.
It was introduced by NVIDIA as an extension to their graphics processing units (GPUs). SFS works by reducing the amount of memory bandwidth required for texture fetches, resulting in faster rendering times. In traditional texture mapping, each texel (texture element) is fetched from memory individually.
This can be inefficient, especially when multiple texels are needed for a single pixel on the screen. SFS solves this problem by using a hierarchical approach. The first step in SFS is to create a mipmapped version of the texture. Mipmapping involves generating multiple versions of the original texture at different resolutions.
This allows for more efficient sampling at different distances from the camera. During rendering, SFS uses feedback from previous frames to predict which texels will be needed in the current frame. It does this by analyzing the screen space derivatives of the texture coordinates and comparing them with those from previous frames. By predicting which texels will be needed, SFS can prefetch them into cache, reducing memory bandwidth usage.
Overall, Sampler Feedback Streaming is an innovative technique that improves performance in texture mapping by reducing memory bandwidth requirements. Its hierarchical approach and use of feedback make it an effective solution for real-time rendering applications.
2-Direct storage
Another crucial technology is Direct Storage, it refers to the process of directly loading game assets from storage into memory, bypassing traditional input/output operations. This results in faster load times, improved performance, and enhanced gaming experiences.
One of the key advantages of Direct Storage is its ability to reduce latency. With traditional storage systems, games often suffer from long load times as data is transferred from storage to memory.
With Direct Storage, this latency is significantly reduced as assets are loaded directly into memory without any intermediate steps. Another benefit of Direct Storage is its ability to handle massive amounts of data efficiently. Modern games are becoming increasingly complex and require substantial amounts of storage space for their assets. Direct Storage allows developers to take advantage of high-speed solid-state drives (SSDs) and efficiently stream data into memory as needed.
Furthermore, Direct Storage enables developers to create more immersive worlds by allowing for larger and more detailed environments. With faster asset loading times, game designers can include more intricate textures, higher resolution models, and larger open-world maps without sacrificing performance.
In conclusion, Direct Storage has the potential to revolutionize gaming development by providing faster load times, improved performance, and enhanced visual fidelity.
As technology continues to advance and SSDs (Solid State Drives) become more prevalent in gaming consoles and PCs alike, we can expect this technology to become an integral part of future game development processes.
3-Bcpack compression
Bcpack compression offers a solution to the limited storage capacity of the Xbox Series S. This innovative technology allows developers to optimize their games for the console's limited storage capacity without compromising visual quality.
By compressing textures and other game assets, BCPack reduces file sizes, enabling more content to be stored on the console's SSD. One of the key advantages of BCPack compression is its ability to retain high-resolution textures while significantly reducing their size. This is achieved through a combination of advanced algorithms and adaptive encoding techniques.
By analyzing the unique characteristics of each texture, BCPack can efficiently compress them without sacrificing detail or introducing noticeable artifacts. Furthermore, BCPack also supports variable rate shading (VRS), which further enhances performance by selectively reducing shader work in areas where it is less perceptible. This allows developers to allocate resources more efficiently, resulting in smoother gameplay and improved frame rates.
In addition to its technical benefits, BCPack compression also has practical advantages for game developers. With smaller file sizes, games can be downloaded faster and take up less storage space on users' consoles. This not only improves user experience but also allows developers to release updates and patches more frequently without burdening players with large downloads.
Overall, BCPack compression plays a vital role in game development on the Xbox Series S by optimizing storage usage while maintaining visual fidelity. Its ability to reduce file sizes without compromising quality makes it an essential tool for developers looking to create immersive gaming experiences on this next-generation console.
4-Mesh shading
Mesh Shading implementation enhances rendering efficiency by distributing workload across multiple cores of the console's GPU. Mesh shading is a revolutionary technique in computer graphics that has the potential to address some of the inherent challenges faced by gaming consoles, such as the Xbox Series S.
Mesh shading is a rendering technique that focuses on processing small portions of a 3D model, known as meshes, rather than rendering each individual pixel. By dividing complex models into smaller sections, mesh shading allows for more efficient utilization of computational resources. This translates into improved performance and enhances visual quality.
The Xbox Series S, while a powerful gaming console, it faces limitations due to its lower resolution output compared to its sibling console, the Xbox Series X. However, by implementing mesh shading technology on the Series S, developers can optimize resource allocation and achieve better performance without compromising visual fidelity.
Mesh shading enables more efficient distribution of processing power across multiple meshes within a scene, resulting in smoother frame rates and reduced latency. Moreover, mesh shading also offers benefits in terms of memory management.
The Xbox Series S has limited memory capacity compared to other consoles or gaming PCs. With mesh shading's ability to render complex scenes using less memory by focusing on smaller sections at a time, developers can create more detailed environments without exceeding memory constraints.
In conclusion, mesh shading presents an exciting opportunity for addressing some of the challenges faced by the Xbox Series S. By optimizing resource allocation and improving memory management through this rendering technique, developers can enhance performance and visual quality on this console and the X.
Common questions asked:
?1-The Playstation 5 does not support these features, so how will it be possible to use these features cross plat if some hardware is not supported?
Answer- Devs can use a cross-platform approach, by using the features on hardware that support it, and not use them on unsupported platforms. To solve this, devs could use their own proprietary API for PS5 and DX12U for Xbox series/PC (for GPUs that support it), just like Fortnite with xbox and pc using DX and PlayStation using their own proprietary API.
?2- This technology is expensive and takes time to implement, and it also may require rebuilding the engine from the ground up!! So how can we get better performance if we may not see these things until late 2024-2026?
Answer- Remember when Microsoft said to devs "Plan Better For The Series S", what I think the plan should be is to Prioritize performance on weaker hardware, (i.e Develop for weaker or xbox series S first before you do so for the XSX). I say this because it's basically guaranteed to get 1440P-4K 60 on series X and PS5, but it's not guaranteed to even get 1080p30 on the series S, the plan should be to prioritize series S performance before the others.
We will probably never see it) it's been almost 4 years, but no one uses it
Looking forward to that new ps5 grill slim. I heard it can cook 5 turkeys in a hour, or money back guaranteed ! Just in time for the holiday dinners.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂This one will be a house warmer for the winter
@@baharv4575 leave it on to long and it becomes a house fire 😂… that’s how hot it get
Starfield was basically the nail in the coffin for me staying on console. I just decided to make the leap and buy a gaming PC. Consoles are just getting out paced by these new generation games and can’t keep up.
Hopefully, we will stop hearing developers saying they can't and start hearing they can.
I thought this new console generation was going to be the 4K 60 fps standard. I’ve been a console only gamer since 2007. I’ll be building a kinda high end gaming PC next year and can’t wait to see how different it will be
Colt the 6700xt was not an entry level card that card at release was like 479msrp which means in most cases it was averaging around 500-600 from third parties. On PC this build would be a 1440p build with even decent 4k performance in some games . It's a couple of years old but still viable and fsr 3 capable as well
Great video as usual colt, the fact that you mention fsr3 hasn’t been tested on Xbox let alone pc. Then why the heck take the chance and put it in the console. I love my series x but it hasn’t lived up expectations on a performance front. Currently I wish I would have purchased a series s but i am hoping that later in the generation I’ll have a different outlook.
Nice video, Colt. I have exactly *15% faith* in the greedy / incompetent Publishers / Developers to use this.
Serious question: **Why are we talking about FSR 3 when the aforementioned haven't utilized Velocity / FSR 2?** I'll believe it when it's actually accomplished. Don't wanna hear about it otherwise. We were sold a dream and then had the prices hiked on us on the backend + MORE MTX. I'm personally voting with my wallet but I'll still occasionally express my distaste.
Playing BDG3 and FF16 at 1440p/60fps on a $500 Ps5 that can do it on a cheap standard 4k/60hz TV is a great deal .
I,m not buying a $2000 Pc to play AAA games on a small desk monitor while sitting in a chair.
Its 2023 , $500 is not a lot of money anymore .
Once it all goes digital I wont be playing anymore...the best thing XSX has for it, is the backwards compatibility.
The frame gen tech has always felt worse the lower the base frame rate. Using the fake frames to go from 30 to 60 isnt going to be a great experience. If amd gets the anti lag working it may be okay to get a locked 60 rather than bouncing in the low 50s. This will be the new excuse to not do a native 60. No reason these consoles couldnt do 1080p60 all day
They need to do something to wake up the extra power in the world's most powerful console
You need a base 60fps, or close, for it to be effective. Games on console arent going to be able to jump from 25 fps to 60fps w/ FSR 3.0.
FSR 3 will be much needed for the series s, that's for sure.
Starfield should but i think it won't happen until later. Maybe forza on the series s can go from 30 to 60 if the update works for the s console. Or maybe Gotham Knights. Great video Colt. See ya Monday night . Love the podcast.
Give me 60fps starfield pls and tnx
Once they do that I will play through the whole game.
I only use my Series X for Call of Duty and that runs at 120fps so I’m happy. The next Xbox needs 12 Cores / 24 Threads, 24GB GDDR7 RAM, Radeon RX 8800 XT graphics and a 2TB NVMe Gen 5x hard drive.
Im sure Hellblade 2 is going to need it. Also the Matrix demo would be a good start to implement FSR 3.0
You always say the same thing and nothing happends.
So glad I switched to PC when the series X came out. It was expensive but it was worth it.
Colt, I love you man but again with the magic solutions?
If memory serves, technology increases every 6 months by 1/2 years, so yes it's outdated at launch. Get a PC would be fine, and a far superior option overall... whilst I got a Series X 2 years after launch, I'm happy with it, especially the speed of loading games and Quick Resume is a great feature.. Got a Hisense 55" Pro 4K 120 VRR recently and this has transformed my games... the next gen consoles should really have 20gb plus memory imo.. I'd be happy with 4k 120... only on an expensive pc build, assuming £2,000 onwards, but can't complain.. the TV is "future proof ' for now... enjoy!!!
Dam games must me crazy on that setup
Im still using a xbox ONE an i can barely put the controller down lmfao
If they can take technologies and make 30 look like 60fps that’s fine, but we know the classic cutscene “motion blur” feel is what 30 fps is.
I hope this comes as smooth as it seems and the developers put time and effort for the previous games, really exited but with a grain of salt tbh.
Great work Colt!
You know it’s a good day when Colt drop content !!
Game console generations should last longer in between consoles generation upgrades.
MAAN. I don't think I have played a console game with fsr2 implemented. PERHAPS next Gen I will. Gradually fsr3 being implemented
im ngl it did not even feel like we moved into a “next gen” from the 1x to the series x
Remember the 360,ps3 era, they done the impossible even until theast 2 or 3 years pumping out better and better looking games while still keeping them at the usual 720 to 1080p resolution at a usual choppy 30fps while devs now start off strong with 4K and 60fps for most games then as games look better they don't bother to bring the level of optimization they used to back in those days, a lot of times devs just leave consolel game graphics and performance on the same level as a pc with equivalent specs, consoles have usually been about a one time payment without having to upgrade for 5+ years to try and keep up with pc specs so devs would optimise as much as possible but now they don't these new technologies I guess could be used on console to bypass optimization, it's a good thing for consoles I think.
Better change tshirt or add one other certain badge in the front, as you're clearly missing one. 🙅🏻♂️
Who cares about 4K or FSR just make sure games run at a locked native 1080p 60fps and push the settings as high as possible while keeping that locked native 1080p 60fps
I prefer playing at the highest frame rate possible but playing Plagues Tale Requiem, Starfield and now Gotham Knights it’s fun and enjoyable. Having said that give me Halo infinite and COD at 120fps all day everyday!! Great video Colt!
True. Just completed gotham knights at 30. My first 30fps game that I actually completed. I also downloaded warhammer darktide but uninstalled it because it was bad with 30fps
Wait is it possible to get halo infinite to 120 on anything now???
@@GORILLA_PIMP been playing at 120 for a long time!!
@@ninovosstek hahahah yeah right!!!
I think FSR 3.0 is great but the consoles are gonna be limited with how it will implement FSR. People gotta remember that PC’s have more leg room and can run these tools a bit better. We will have to see but if you guys are worried about getting the right frames it’s time to build PC’s I heard so many of the Xbox guys/RUclips creators say that they have built pc’s just to make sure they can always play games at there best. But hey series x definitely is a great deal For $500 bucks but let’s not expect the boxes to run like PC’s. The consoles can only do so much!!
This gen never even began, Glad I sold my Xbox as I was just using it for emulation and the PC is where gaming is at. I would say the Series X is simular to a 1080ti with an AMD 3600 cpu.
I could never go back to running 30 or 60fps.. I’m so used to 180fps+ 😅
Watched and FINALLY this video was much to do about nothing, the only thing boosted here was the title screen and title of vid. Now if you have proof of this please provide the links as I’ve seen the DF vid and the AMD information put put. As it stands a 30FPS game will not be boosted to 60FPS using FSR-3
I would like to know how many Devs that criticized the Series S have used SFS or Mesh Shading or GPU Work Creation before talking...its easier to complain and use FSR and DLSS as "optimization" than put resources into their engines so they can use hardware efficiently and scale on better hardware.
The consoles should've had a 5800 CPU instead of the 3700, sure in 2020, the 5800 was a bit more expensive, but they've been about the same price, for over a year.
The 3700 isn't even a gaming focused CPU, it's only about 3% better than the 3600 and 5% better than the 3300X, meanwhile the 5800 is 15% better than the 5600X and 30% better than the 3700.
Series X GPU should be clocked 15% higher and have 20Gb instead of 16Gb.
@@furry_homunculusAlso before the Radeon 6000 launch, so...
I'm wondering what game is being shown at the 7 minute mark. If you know please informe. TIA...
2:53 FSR 3 does not look ahead. What it does is delay the display of a frame so that it can use that information to create an interpolated frame. This is why using it will result in a lower response time. Its similar to what TVs do yo create an interpolated frame.
It’s hard to compare Series: X and PS5 to their desktop counterparts. Firstly, a Series: X may have what seems like a 6700 XT, but that 6700 XT is on a 320bit memory interface, which changes a fair amount. Not even the 6800 XT is on a 320bit bus, but the 6900 XT is. Same with Sony... Their GPU is in a 250bit bus, unlike the 6700 (non-XT). Then there’s board design and SSD designs. Just having a tiny micro ITX board, in a PC improves how fast the CPU can speak to other components, such as the GPU, which, in the console’s case? The SOC design further enhances that. It also means that less power is lost, when going from point A to point B. This is how ITX PCs gain the ability to make a full size GPUs work with what would normally be an underpowered PSU. This, in turn means greater efficiency and possibly less thermals, both of which should further decrease latency, enhancing that communication time. There’s some benefit to unified memory, too…especially once you’ve eliminated GDDR’s higher latency problem, which things like ESRAM, EDRAM or Infinity Cache help to rectify. Going back to the SSD, on PS5? It is faster than anything on PC, given it has special integrated hardware, to further NVME access/ read/ write times. That means PS5 can do DirectStorage better, which the better you do that? The closer you’ve come to mimicking system memory or even extra graphics memory… Of course, that’s the whole point of DirectStorage in the first place: to reduce those pop-in textures and remove load screens. Historically, load screens would take longer because the game had to load all the assets into VRAM before you started the game. Now it can just be streamed and pop you right into the game, instantly, like that shitty title called Forspoken had demonstrated.
Software is always way behind hardware. You think about what was pulled off on Xbox 360 pretty mind blowing for that hardware
The series x isn’t outdated they still arnt utilizing it to its fullest extent. Consoles are dedicated just to gaming they don’t have to be as powerful as a PC to look and perform well
What do you think about the new gears of War that's supposed to be coming out and do you think they going to release a remastered Marcus Fenix collector edition? Of the original 5.
id love to see this work for games at 30fps on console like ps5's Rift Apart resolution rt mode that runs at 30fps (40fps with 120hz panels) cause i know they say you SHOULD (they said 60fps is recommended) be at 60fps. but then again running 60fps performance mode and adding this means you can bump that internal resolution up a good amount. would love to see this added to games like performance rt modes on rift apart/spiderman and could introduce a performance rt mode on jedi survivor and other games aswell
I clicked this from my Google notification things and it said " Xbox series S upgrade" and I don't think i heard the series S a single time
pricing is kinda off colt. the equivalent PC is more like $700, and could probably squeeze in a zen 3 chip rather than going with an older zen 2 at that price. You may be able to find a used 6800 to fit that price point too.
while FSR3 will be a good addition to consoles, frame interpolation works best the higher your base framerate is before switching it on. Further optimization is needed for it to be a smooth experience in the longrun, but more devs will hopefully find workarounds.
I was right, even Xbox, like PS are worried about the console again, and it's already more powerful than the PS5!!! Get the devs together, and boost they're action up! Let's hope everything works out!
And this is why I'm glad I gave up console gaming and moved to pc.10700k with 3080ti ultrawide monitor 38inch. Still pushing 100 to 154 fps plus
Why no one is talking about fsr 3 and only talking about dlss3.5?
I still have hope from amd fsr3 for pc.
forza motorsport looks sick!! on xsx/S i played 8 hours straight
Same gimmick that Nvidia is running with DLSS. In console settings, I understand doing this due to the lack of upgrade ability, but if I'm on a pc that has a 4070 or higher, I don't want to have to turn on any of this just to have better framerates at higher resolutions. It's bogus. We should not have to use a software that lowers the resolution and then upscales it just to get better framerates, when the framerates should be there to begin with.
hii , will the same optimisation take place on xbox series s too?
Will it sort out the crashing issue with starfeild on sx consoles or do I have to wait for the modding community to fix it, crashes every 5 minutes since early access 😢
Good video Colt, Im starting to get to the point where i don't care anymore. MS keep making these promises and not executing what they are to do. I know they want to get into the 4k realm, but they just should've had Series X set to 1440P and the Series S set 1080P at a 100 frame or more.
Never mind some software based manipulation to have games run at 60fps.......Microsoft need to be bring a pro/elite series X next Christmas, as Sony are with the PS5 Pro
Idk why that's suck a big deal, Sony and Microsoft both promised games at 120 with Ray Tracing at Native 4k. Smh
won't believe it til i see it. heard lots of this prior to Series X|S launch and it has been mostly a bunch of waiting. Still waiting for the showcase RT title from Xbox
Well hopefully they fix that and hopefully they fix the games coming out on finished would be the first that would be a big win
I’m a fan of these new technologies helping to assist in image quality and frame rate issues. Not sure why so many gamers hate FSR, DLSS, etc……….if my games look & play better than hooray as far as I’m concerned.
This is exciting!
Good stuff man looking for the next one 😊😊😊 I have two xbox series x
Higher the graphical fidelity the higher it will be to achieve higher frames no matter the hardware. Whats best is every game should give you an option thats it. Drop the res for higher framerate. We are hitting the point where these new engines will demand a lot, look at unreal 5 games. 60fps will not be achievable at 4k with those engines
It’s not that hard, the hardware is fixed and the software has to adapt. If your game can’t run 60fps that’s a choice. That’s fine, but stop blaming gamers expectations or aging hardware. If your game is good, in the end nobody will complain about graphics.
Both PS5 and Xbox Series consoles are very capable. Gifted and experienced developers can still create fantastic experiences. Hardware features such as RT, for the most part, are too demanding and simply unnecessary with gifted developers. Today's consoles CPU power, memory bandwidth and gpu's are leaps and bounds ahead of last generation. Now it's time to push these systems to their limits.
I just want Devs to drop Ray Tracing on consoles, because it seems to use up a lot of resources and I dont think current gen consoles can handle it properly yet, maybe next gen.
After seeing Forza Motorsport 8, the graphics a big let down and I reckon its due to the devs trying to implement Ray Tracing and it really hurts the overall graphics. Heck even Forza Horizon 4 looks much better graphically and that was made in 2018, developed for a weak xbox one and its also an open world racing game.
Better looking games and higher frames. Believe it when I see it. Personally I want 4K and 60 fps. But if that’s not possible then I prefer 4K 30fps with a fixed frame rate. No dips in frames.
All i wanna know is if the consoles are capable of higher fps gaming, higher than 120hz, regardless of resolution
Great video as always Colt 😊, can't wait for it to arrive, i have been seeing about a Series X mid gen refresh 2024/24, don't know if there's any truth in this? But if there is i hope it will be as powerful or more powerful than the PS5 Pro when they bring that out, also Avowed looks amazing can't wait till that drops, have a good day Colt keep up the great work 😁
It's sad we're still talking about 60fps in 2023.
They'll just use the software to make 30fps easier to obtain so they can ship it good enough. This won't change even 1/3 of the games.
If you've played Unreal Championship II The Liandri Conflict on the original Xbox you should have known back then that the Unreal team was onto something big back then and time has shown they are continuously trying to advance gaming in the right direction....THE FUN DIRECTION. Gameplay and graphics are so well balanced on this game that some from today pale in comparison to it.
I've only played the Unreal Tournament series on PC and was a huge fan. Crazy that Epic scrapped the Unreal and Gears of War games due to Fortnite, but I guess I get it. I'm not a fan, but Fortnite became a huge success.
using fsr3 to make 30fps to 60 is gonna feel a bit rough.
AMD Fluid Motion Frames is the solution as it's software based, not hardware based, not sure if Navi and Zen 2 can do it. It's just released for 7000 series GPU's which are a generation ahead of the 6000 series.
It's AMD's DLSS.
AMD Fluid Motion Frames interpolation technology when used with AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution (FSR) 3 inserts 1 frame between existing ones which can therefore enable up to 2x the framerate in supported games.
FSR 2 was used in FFXVI and some scenes went down as low as 720p to maintain frame rate, it's also in Starfield and on Series S it's horribly optimised with very poor frametimes and framerate drops, also causing crashes.
I find FidelityFX CAS can help which is also already in some titles e.g MW2 which is actually the best option for image quality both on PC and Console as I have had both versions and use CAS on Warzone.
The problem is it's 2023, we shouldn't need to be relying on Upscaling tech both on PC or Console, it's lazy, and if the games were actually properly optimised in the 1st place we would not even need this tech.
The tech as been in TV's for years and LG and Samsung even have AI chips in TV's basically doing the same thing mostly in OLED models since 2020.
PS5 Pro is due next year and will give 3080 to 3090 performance 4 years on with a hefty price tag, it's already leaked via Moore's Law is Dead and will be based on Navi 3.5 with 32 compute units, a higher bus speed and a 4nm die.
Series X refresh which as been leaked is simply moving to the 6nm die which Sony are already using in the PS5 3rd revision model released in December 2022 and it's the same board as the now announced Slim coming in November.
AMD Fluid Motion Frames (AFMF) interpolation is just the driver sided implementation and is not for the consoles. PS5 and Series X can both use FSR 3 FG (AMD's answer to DLSS 3 FG) which is much much better compared to AFMF and will be implemented by the developers themselves.
So it's not the series S holding Xbox back ?
MS should so something with its XSS Software to at least make games run at60fps
Im still baffled that DirectML and Tensor flow is propably the biggest lie.
Hell, we're almost in 2024 lol
FSR 3 isn't meant to make games go from 30 FPS to 60. it is meant to make game go from 60 to 120. at lower FPS such as 30 their would noticeable artifacting, jank, and latency
Digital Foundry said FSR 3 is NOT coming to consoles the other day so now I am confused.
Yea kinda done with this console moved to oc instead
Why do movies and TV shows run AT20FPS but video games are much higher? Also imagine if Gaz and Maad was in your podcast at the same time talking about super hyper speed, eh
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Got series x on oct 10 2023. From my birthday woohoo
Question is, when will this update be out for the Xbox Series X mhmm...
My question is will FSR 3 HAVE BAD ARTIFACTING!
Sounds like there is not gonna be 4k games. Just 1080p games pushed look like "4k"😢
Just look at what the Xbox 360 produced in graphics....im sure the current generation will come on leaps and bounce.