The squid didn't necessarily say leave. He said "leave and die as you are now, or commune with cthulu-christ and live forever" pretty much. He was offering a choice.
A really interesting interpretation I'm getting from this game is that Adam and Eve were never beings that lived on land, but were actually aquatic-dwelling creatures. Eating from the fruit of knowledge resulted from them leaving the garden, which is actually meaning that they abandoned the paradise and ignorant bliss of the aquatic world to evolve and live on land. They learned so much, conquered the world, but at the cost of the purity of their being. The angel in the form of a squid isn't a an illusion, that's just what the actual angels are. They're aquatic, and this one is telling him that his contrary path to that of his forefather, Adam, will send him returning back to the ancient way of life back in the ocean, as the innocents once did before eating the forbidden fruit. All life began in the water, all life is the result of water. Water Womb World. Title's beginning to make a lot of sense now. FFS Yames, every game you make, I keep wishing it was longer!
A very interesting idea, my take was that the developer was sort of bringing in two different ideas about the origin of life, on both humans and otherwise. The idea of confounding the story of Creationism from the bible with Adam and eden with the theory of evolution, such as the origin of life which was found in the ocean where species descended from one another into the organisms we know today. Very interesting regardless
@@taluca8474 Or were they those who ventured down here before? There's proof that people have been to Gaspar's Zone as shown by the mask found on the first venture. What I can definitely tell though is that they have feasted on the coral. Yames, you madman.
My theory is that the fruit of knowledge was light. The ancient proto-forms evolved to sense light and left Eden, becoming human during the process. It's why his eyes were gone and that his lights on his ship were going out.
...good lord. While tying the snake to Lucifer the lightbringer is apocryphal and possibly the result of mixing up Satan the tempter and Lucifer and several other figures together, if we consider that it was the light that led those ancient primeval beings astray...suddenly it makes a shocking amount of sense.
Man, I adore this developer. There's something about the crusty, melted, semi-realistic graphics mixed with that low droning sound design that makes their games so similar to the way a nightmare feels. It's so alluring. It's like I'm watching direct footage of someone's fucked up dream.
My theory is that it had to do with him already slowly turning into one of those red beings, and since they're aquatic lifeforms he was slowly being accustomed to life in open deep sea, and less so being in an enclosure with no seawater like his submersible.
@@_V.Va_ the fruit of knowledge is specifically the knowledge OF GOOD AND EVIL, which can be synonymous with light and dark the fish can't tell the difference
There still seems to be an ego death in this game too imo. When the protagonist eats god (coral) doesn't he join its mind? (as referred in coral research)
At the end, it looks like he became one of the red “angel” creatures. His hands faded as he ate the coral. The bottom of the creatures looks entirely made of coral, and the Deathless Fish 2 is described as being 50% coral polyp. I think the red creatures are former explorers now “purified” by being recomposed with coral, and the eye seen at the end was God, the source of the coral, since womb of God implies that it is part of God, but not God itself. Eating the coral physically and psychologically merges the explorer with the hivemind nourished by God, an evolutionary return to the womb. Thanks for listening to my rambling.
All I’m learning from all these yames games is that I’m terrified of hive minds, and implying that we originated from one or that it is a higher state of being creeps me the fuck out
@The Proletarichad Unfortunately it's missing the one true element that makes cosmic horror what it is: cosmic indifference. In every version, God is directly involved and cares about Humanity. But yeah, in basically every other way it's mega Lovecraft lmao
I don't know why. These kind of games disturb me. But at the same time, it draws me in with such fascination! Same thing with other concepts. I don't know why i like looking at these. The concept of exploring something beyond human imagination. The concept trying to find meaning and truth behind the ancient things. Must be the Nostalgia factor too. I am somewhat comforted by the 90s-2000s feel to it!
Two ways of reading this: Theological way: Guy goes to find site of the Fall, joins with our perfect ancestors. Weird but cool Materialist way: Cultist discovers psychic hivemind that is older than everything we know. Alien? Origin? Either answer is horrifying.
I would not define the theological way that. Theologically it is more “Man attempts to find site of the Fall, is consumed by his own desperation for knowledge he isn’t ready for. Only becomes farther from God and is caught by primordial darkness”
@@Dracomut But the feeling of being cut off from a greater whole, the thinking coral, the angel even saying to go further is to be joined with god... The coral IS god
What I got from it, particularly with the message from the angel, is that you're not supposed to go back, and that god made people to go out into the world and grow. Turning back is like going back into the womb. The red creatures that he encounters say "Water Womb World". I think they are saying 'The water is the womb of the world'.
Just once, I would like to see an horror game based entirely on how weird ass old testament angels are. No demons, no Lovecraft assery, just for once, somebody trying something new.
They're currently making a much longer sequel to DMB called Discover _Our_ Bodies! And another game that no one knows anything about except for that it's called "Father Turned Me Into Trees and Rivers," and it looks absolutely horrifying.
This guy is making some of the best horror games. He confronts the true dread of existentialism, which is way scarier and more real than Sirenhead in the woods... Plus the deep ocean for just added terror
@@TalionRarshak it's called supporting creators... im willing to be advertised some food in order for ABG to continue what he does for us, paid, same goes for any creator I'm happy to support
@@ryanhernandez1877 I guess the wrong way it's just to make cthulhu-like monsters, or to copy Lovecraft's stories and worldbuilding (like the typical fishermen village or the dark-eerie New England town), or maybe don't letting ppl imagine or guess about things. One of the best elements of cosmic horror is that it lets you use your imagination and terrify yourself about the implications of things I'm kinda burned off and tired of these themes after playing many "lovecraftian/eldritch" games and movies for many years, and even reading now the original Lovecraft's books makes me feel bored, like reading a copy from a copy (which is awful), this game though, seems to scratch that itch for me
@ETHAN SEBASTIAN LAYANA GAMARRA Nah, the one with the long tentacles as far as we know is an adult. We've never collected adult specimens though, just seen them in the wild. The larva have short tentacles and all the genus was known from until we saw mr dangly. Keep in mind we just assume that the long tentacled thing is the adult of Magnapinna, it could be a knew species of Magnapinna, or it could be a related squid.
love the lack of explicit horror in these games. its scary, yes, but the characters treat the situations as normal or wonderful rather than rightfully terrifying. its not traditional and i love it
Ahhh, I love the symbolism so much! I'm not sure if this was the creator's intent, but that coral seems to be an allegory for the Fruit of Life, which is really neat! Also, the fact that the fish down here can't tell the difference between light and dark, kind of like how the Knowledge of the Tree of Good and Evil made humanity be able to tell them apart in a more metaphorical sense-- In this narritive, that could be literal! Another thing that struck me was how the main character describes feeling like they were once part of something bigger, like they'd been ripped out and left to float: almost like a fetus, really. Wouldn't be too far of a stretch considering the title of the game, and its "return to the womb" narritive. The yearning for a simpler, safer time. This is a really, really interesting take on Christian theology, and I hope to see more like it. But, yeah. This is really, really neat and I love it
This could easily be turned into a much bigger game. Hell, I'd love it even if it was just more stuff to read. The developer has some really cool ideas, but ends them too quickly. Dude needs to make a full game sometime, I think it'd do pretty well.
Same, if I was in protags shoes, the angel would have stopped at some point in his monologue to tell me to stop screaming. Then I would have high tailed it out of there because nope nope nope.
@@gracekelley2907 Actually, In the Old Testament it was depicted that angels actually looked like the pure version of Lovecraftian creatures. So what he said about angels looking like other world beings were actually biblically true. (Heres a picture if you are curious) pbs.twimg.com/media/EH3rx1pWoAM88L5.png
My priest and biology teacher: Relax, eldritch lovecraftian combo of creationism and evolution theory doesn't exist. Eldritch lovecraftian combo of creationism and evolution theory:
So I'm gonna go ahead and assume the whole "Ate of the Forbidden Fruit" was.. actually the coral? Probably? Cause it's mentioned that "Their ancestors" ate forbidden fruit. And, since the origin is on the seabed.. I just used these two sentences to repeat myself.
The coral seems to actually be the Fruit of Life, as the deathless fishes are reported to have nearly no cell degradation, and a lot of coral in the stomach.
From what I see, the coral IS god. The coral has neurons, which may very well be far powerful than a human brain, mentioned to be "hyper capable of generating a consciousness field". Judging by the previous game of Discover My Body, this game might be in the same universe, the first fish being subject to "laser vivisection", a technology we do not have at the moment. Discover my Body is set in the future, and the fungus is mentioned to have "crystalline, latticelike psychic receptors", confirming the existence of psychic abilities in certain species. The protag at the end probably was subject to mutation by "god" 's psychic abilities, presumably the generated "consciousness field" and became an aquatic protohuman, the original "sons of adam".
@@theloweffortchannel7211 And let's not forget that in this game, the protagonist mentions "feeling cut off from a greater whole" via the original sin and Discover My Body is all about connecting to a collective consciousness of all of humanity.
I can never get enough of my man's horror games, they are so incredibly characteristic, and extremely creati e with their concepts, something i havent even seen before, it is all so fascinating ^ ^
The concept is Lovecraftian horror, the fear of the unknown, yet our curiosity, our drive to gain knowledge and as the unknown becomes the known, the human mind breaks and shatters at the mere sight of the infinite, indifference of all powerful, and mostly malevolent being beyond human understanding, wholly alien to us. As we slowly descend into madness as we fail to make sense of it.
If you like reading, The Deep by Nick Cutter might fill your itch for deep sea body horror. It’s pretty much the same kind of mind fuck although it lacks the religious overtones.
The concepts this developer creates are way to good to be used on such a short experience. Discover My Body was a very memorable experience as was Water Womb World. Somebody needs to make a movie with a concept like this honestly. I can't wait to see more of what this developer creates. I just wish the games were way longer.
My thoughts on the plot. Introduction: The Son of Adam is a theist who believes both in god and science, and is obsessed with finding the supposed birthplace of humanity, the Gaspar Zone. In order to achieve this, he built a futuristic base on the oceanic floor to conduct his research. First trip: Here he finds that all lifeforms in the Gaspar Zone are obviously acuatic, made of stone or metal, very long-lived and have some form of blindness, all but the Adamite, an ancestor of humanity which seems to have eyes. This may or may not be related to his 5% of ancestral corruption, implying that seeing and thus evolving into a more complex creature is in some way straying from the path of God. He also found some scuba glasses, implying that he’s not the first on the Gaspar Zone. Second trip: Here he meets with the Golden Angel, who has disabled the Son of Adam’s lights, further proving that God and his affiliated entities dislike it and the concept of seeing. His warning is actually quite straightforward. Telling the Son of Adam that if he leaves now, he’ll continue to be a human, but if he stays in the Gaspar Zone, he’s going to have to join God. Our protagonist refuses to leave and continues his research. Third trip: Here we find out that all the fish in the Gaspar Zone appear to have eaten Red Coral, an organism of unknown properties. Apparently, it is covered in human neurons, create hive-minded individuals, crash the lab’s examination machine and create alucinations. Fourth trip: The lights are off again, sing of divine entities nearby. However, these angels are much more stranger than the last one. Yet despite their appearance, they seem able to talk. They drive the Son of Adam mad and force him to retreat to his lab. There he convinces himself to be hungry and join God. This is probably what the first angel was warning him about on the second trip. Fifth (and last) trip: The Son of Adam is suffering from the same traits as the Gaspar Zone’s lifeforms, being able to breath underwater, having black sockets for eyes and a rocky, red skin. He eventually starts eating a lot of Red Coral, which seems to attract the Red Angels from before. They reveal him their full body, ending on a red eye. Conclusion: Considering the hive-minded powers of the Red Coral, what the Golden Angel said and the scuba glasses, it’s safe to assume that the Son of Adam joined the Red Angel’s collective consciousness in order to be able to live forever in the Gaspar Zone. The Red Angel is probably a union of all the previous divers that went there. Now wether this is something good or bad for the protagonist is hard to determine, but I would say that it is indeed good as the purpose of Christian Religion is to unite with god, just like the Son of Adam did, even if by a very unorthodox method.
So my theory is that this game is an allegory for those who seek out the monastic tradition for the wrong reasons. Seeking union with god, however fueled by their own fantasies and ego. This is furthered by the whole mirror situation. Seeking out this selfish piousness attracted demons in the end.
I Am, is the thought or rather, the belief that one thinks they think, they Are, they exist. They believe themselves to be in existence, therefore, They Are. I think, therefore, I Am.
I AM is one of God's names. When introducing Himself to Moses in that specific instance, he said "I AM who I AM." or in another translation "I WILL BE what I WILL BE." It's a title demonstrating his eternal existence. Plus an identifier, as all names are.
My personal interpretation of the ending: The massive creature is NOT God, and the protag was simply tricked. Like Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit, the protag ate the coral, which could have also been forbidden in some way. The angel was most likely a legit one trying to steer the protag away from this potentially "false" god, to no avail. It could also be that his mind was simply unstable and, being alone in the depths for too long, his sanity slipped and he went out into the water without his gear, dying shortly thereafter and the rest of the ordeal was simply a dying dream.
@@RealSelene It could be that the protagonist's consciousness was taken from his brain leaving his body. Then this false god took it and put it in a vessel for him to use then the protagonist used it to descend to hell?
@@RealSelene it's not just a "it's all a dream" theory it was implied he is starting to go insane and losing care with going in the water prepared. First him forgeting to bring a light and second him saying "I feel as If I barely even need this oxygen underwater anymore" so hia theory of him going underwater without an equipment and him "meeting god" being a dying dream can be valid.
i believe that this guy was very close to death and during research he started to hallucinate and his imagination made the passing out and dissolving consciousness feel something he actually desired
Yames, you absolute madman. I'm absolutely hooked on these games, from the stylistic choices to the topics themselves! gonna be thinkin about this for days to come yet again
So at the end, is the protagonist returning to the “womb” or something? What is the thing at the end? Is it the womb of humanity, flesh for flesh? Damn what is this?
From what I understand, that glowing thing at the end is the 'womb' from which humanity and the angels were birthed aka 'God'. What it really is though is open to interpretation, it might be the sentient consciousness of the planet or an ancient extraterrestrial, anything goes.
God bless this developer! All of his work of WWW and discover my body has a lot of potential. I’d want to see this in a short film. I’ve never had a game actually leave me thinking and feeling scared after playing it. God bless him!
While the games the developer makes are very clearly meant to be horrifying, they don't seem scary to me at all. The protagonists or focuses are men of science, well versed in the nature of minds and what will happen to them. They go out intentionally seeking some higher power or higher form of life, and know beforehand that they'll be irrevocably changed into some alien being. They can fully consent (and fully understand) with what happens, and agree to undergo the change. The net effect is comforting, strangely. It would be much more horrifying if the protagonists thought they knew what they were in for, started to object/run away when full realization hits them, and the thing they are changed into then enjoys the procedure, possibly to carry it out on unwilling others.
I agree. Both _Discover My Body_ and now _Water Womb World_ are strangely serene to me. It's not that I would voluntarily choose to join a psychic fungal gestalt consciousness, nor would I throw myself wholeheartedly into the deeps to become an ascendant/regressed perfect human, but I can certainly understand both characters in their choices to do so. They both make informed decisions, and are aware that they cannot go back once they have begun their journey. It is their wholehearted willingness to be transformed, transfigured, that is in itself comforting, I suppose.
I feel like the horror isn’t meant to come from them being forcibly changed like other body horror works might, but instead that they do willingly let it occur. Discover My Body showed a society that willingly gave up all functions and sentience in exchange for perceivably infinite pleasure as they lost their faith in the real world. This game twists the idea of divinity by portraying closeness to god as straying from science and order and returning to a primitive, impulsive state.
I disagree. What makes this great is that they're Lovecraftian culty characters, being fully aware of what will happen. Much better than if they were normal.
Oh my GOD, SO COOL! Honestly this is incredibly amazing work and super beautifully freaky. This game creator astounds me with the work of the previous, and now this, some really amazing work with the atmosphere, story and art, all in a small game. Awesome video!
The sinful world of humanity seems like a lot more of an interesting and fullfilling place than the water womb world where there is no deep thought, no conflict, no pleasure, not even love is possible since there is no opposite to love. Just feeding on coral forever.
I think it is worth noting that most if not all of the 'biologically immortal' organisms we know of are aquatic, including types of coral and jellyfish.
Now that is some freaky Lovecraftian sh*t...I could almost feel what he was feeling. Just like Shadow Over Innsmouth, he returns to man's birthplace in the sea...to dwell amongst wonder and glory forever...join with the Creator
i finally got around to playing this game last night. all was well and fine and i was streaming it to my partner because we both enjoy this style of horror. anyways, i got to the final "feed on coral" part, and right when the progress bar filled, all power to my house was cut for about a second total. it was more shocking than it was scary but man, what perfect timing lol
Damn I'm loving this guys work, Discover My Body was so unnerving, and this has some great potential. I hope he gets the opportunity to make a full, feature length game!
This game is actually pretty deep (pun intended) and takes a cool spin on christianity. Also, with the coral, I can't help but notice how this feels like the classic "is the protagonist experiencing what they think they are, or is it some kind of chemical leak / radiation causing hallucinations?" question? Edit: grammar
You know, just by looking at that screenshot I thought “hey, this reminds me of discover my body. Wonder how the full game’s going?” Then I read the full title... I can’t wait to watch this.
Question, besides lovecratian what else would this type of fantasy or horror be called? Something that interprets god as some "other worldly horrific being", something mysterious yet really eerie and forbidden, the kind of entity that when one of its followers witnesses its "greatness"..they become twisted and not human like anymore? "When you see god you will witness glory" type of spooky shit. What would that be called and where I can find out more about it? It's hard to explain but i've had that idea about religion for a long time and this is a good example of it
Third game will also need you to fetch 6 things and will end up with a jumpscare while blasting BFG Division in what will turn out to be the most elaborate Doom meme ever.
I need more games like these. The mix of Religion and Deep sea horror. Our ignorance to the water womb from which we do not have much knowledge of just makes the whole idea of adding religious beliefs that we still dont fully comprehend work.
I'm assuming the creature he called an angel was actually a nephilim/watchers. A cross between angels and humans that were large and detestating to humanity. They are the reason Noah's food happens according to the book of Enoch.
I thought about this as well. The scientist seems to be convinced that the antediluvian humans were aquatic when it's clearly stated in Genesis that they were wiped out with a flood. Yames was obviously aware of this when creating the game.
@@magicman99111 You know what? I've been meaning to get to Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines for a whole because I've heard good things about it. Maybe after I finish Pathologic HD.
angel squid: dude leave
dude: hmmmm what did he mean by this
English teachers be like
LMAO HAHAHH
The squid didn't necessarily say leave. He said "leave and die as you are now, or commune with cthulu-christ and live forever" pretty much. He was offering a choice.
@@KaaneDragonShinobi I think what he meant was that he would die of old age eventually, still as he is
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A really interesting interpretation I'm getting from this game is that Adam and Eve were never beings that lived on land, but were actually aquatic-dwelling creatures. Eating from the fruit of knowledge resulted from them leaving the garden, which is actually meaning that they abandoned the paradise and ignorant bliss of the aquatic world to evolve and live on land. They learned so much, conquered the world, but at the cost of the purity of their being.
The angel in the form of a squid isn't a an illusion, that's just what the actual angels are. They're aquatic, and this one is telling him that his contrary path to that of his forefather, Adam, will send him returning back to the ancient way of life back in the ocean, as the innocents once did before eating the forbidden fruit. All life began in the water, all life is the result of water. Water Womb World. Title's beginning to make a lot of sense now.
FFS Yames, every game you make, I keep wishing it was longer!
A very interesting idea, my take was that the developer was sort of bringing in two different ideas about the origin of life, on both humans and otherwise. The idea of confounding the story of Creationism from the bible with Adam and eden with the theory of evolution, such as the origin of life which was found in the ocean where species descended from one another into the organisms we know today. Very interesting regardless
This begs the question of just what the fruit of knowledge IS in this universe, considering the fruit of life is the coral.
@@_Remorium perhaps they became predatory
then what was the red creatures? Was it some sort of Arch Angel or was it, God?
@@taluca8474 Or were they those who ventured down here before? There's proof that people have been to Gaspar's Zone as shown by the mask found on the first venture. What I can definitely tell though is that they have feasted on the coral.
Yames, you madman.
My theory is that the fruit of knowledge was light. The ancient proto-forms evolved to sense light and left Eden, becoming human during the process. It's why his eyes were gone and that his lights on his ship were going out.
...good lord.
While tying the snake to Lucifer the lightbringer is apocryphal and possibly the result of mixing up Satan the tempter and Lucifer and several other figures together, if we consider that it was the light that led those ancient primeval beings astray...suddenly it makes a shocking amount of sense.
Man, I adore this developer. There's something about the crusty, melted, semi-realistic graphics mixed with that low droning sound design that makes their games so similar to the way a nightmare feels. It's so alluring. It's like I'm watching direct footage of someone's fucked up dream.
This developers games have so much potential. Imagine watching a short film of this but with real people? It would be insane!
Omygosh don't forget the writing, I love the dialogue with his inner mind.
Ah yes Water Womb World, my favorite Mario 64 level.
waiting for someone to made a map in mario 64 that was based on this game
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Ah but your wrong sir this is for the unheard of scrapped game for the nintendo 420 (which is unheard of scrapped console) Mario 69
@@some_random_person3502 funny
@@georgeadair5554 the funny
"It is strange, perhaps it is just exhaustion from my swimming, but I feel a bit dizzy..."
My guy that's the nitrogen narcosis.
he addresses that like 20 seconds later with "Maybe decompression sickness?"
@@Gitarookefka he shouldn't even be able to function at those depths outside his submersible if he's really at the sea floor
@@Gitarookefka two different things
My theory is that it had to do with him already slowly turning into one of those red beings, and since they're aquatic lifeforms he was slowly being accustomed to life in open deep sea, and less so being in an enclosure with no seawater like his submersible.
Mans just passed out and hallucinated god was a fish
This game is beautiful and terrifying but I also find it hilarious that the ending is literally "reject humanity become fish" lmao
become God*
"but even blind fish can sense the difference between light and dark. these fish lack that capacity completely"
this writing is fucking amazing
What about that makes it amazing...?
@@_V.Va_ the fruit of knowledge is specifically the knowledge OF GOOD AND EVIL, which can be synonymous with light and dark
the fish can't tell the difference
@@hera5614 blissful ignorance and innocence
first it was ego death and posthumanism, now theology? _hot damn_
There still seems to be an ego death in this game too imo.
When the protagonist eats god (coral) doesn't he join its mind? (as referred in coral research)
There's ego death here, too, and body horror... so much body horror... it's like 'Discover My Body' told from the perspective of the ... uh ... body.
@@Nexofas so who wants to burn in hell with me
More like prehumanism, although it depends on how you look at it.
Theology is the best source for horror.
At the end, it looks like he became one of the red “angel” creatures. His hands faded as he ate the coral. The bottom of the creatures looks entirely made of coral, and the Deathless Fish 2 is described as being 50% coral polyp.
I think the red creatures are former explorers now “purified” by being recomposed with coral, and the eye seen at the end was God, the source of the coral, since womb of God implies that it is part of God, but not God itself. Eating the coral physically and psychologically merges the explorer with the hivemind nourished by God, an evolutionary return to the womb.
Thanks for listening to my rambling.
I thought the shape in the final scene was the cervix or entrance to the water womb world or "garden of eden"
I wonder if the coral is somehow related to the fungus from Discover My Body...
All I’m learning from all these yames games is that I’m terrified of hive minds, and implying that we originated from one or that it is a higher state of being creeps me the fuck out
For a long time I've been wondering how to make Christianity Lovecraftian.
This game is exactly that.
Add sci-fi and you get Neon Genesis Evangelion
OG Judaism is Lovecraft AF
Get some faithful depictions of angels for aesthetics.
Google Gnosticism
@The Proletarichad Unfortunately it's missing the one true element that makes cosmic horror what it is: cosmic indifference. In every version, God is directly involved and cares about Humanity.
But yeah, in basically every other way it's mega Lovecraft lmao
I don't know why. These kind of games disturb me. But at the same time, it draws me in with such fascination! Same thing with other concepts. I don't know why i like looking at these. The concept of exploring something beyond human imagination. The concept trying to find meaning and truth behind the ancient things. Must be the Nostalgia factor too. I am somewhat comforted by the 90s-2000s feel to it!
Master Lovecraft is timeless in his conception of human nature. Only a well-read madman could come up with such ideas.
You think exactly how the guy in this game did. Look how that ended for him.
@@mint5438 you're implying he's going to transform into one of those things?
@@marcomendex8780 He already did.
it's one of those things that it's so disturbing it actually feels kind of calming, if that makes any sense?
Two ways of reading this:
Theological way: Guy goes to find site of the Fall, joins with our perfect ancestors. Weird but cool
Materialist way: Cultist discovers psychic hivemind that is older than everything we know. Alien? Origin? Either answer is horrifying.
I would not define the theological way that. Theologically it is more “Man attempts to find site of the Fall, is consumed by his own desperation for knowledge he isn’t ready for. Only becomes farther from God and is caught by primordial darkness”
@@Dracomut But the feeling of being cut off from a greater whole, the thinking coral, the angel even saying to go further is to be joined with god... The coral IS god
@@Dracomut Idk. I think the whole point of it is he discovered what "God" truly was. There is no God in heaven, only the God of the benthic deeps.
What I got from it, particularly with the message from the angel, is that you're not supposed to go back, and that god made people to go out into the world and grow. Turning back is like going back into the womb. The red creatures that he encounters say "Water Womb World". I think they are saying 'The water is the womb of the world'.
Just once, I would like to see an horror game based entirely on how weird ass old testament angels are. No demons, no Lovecraft assery, just for once, somebody trying something new.
I'm in love with this developer. Such a unique style, and so deeply horrifying. I hope they make many more like this.
They're currently making a much longer sequel to DMB called Discover _Our_ Bodies! And another game that no one knows anything about except for that it's called "Father Turned Me Into Trees and Rivers," and it looks absolutely horrifying.
Right? God, I love him so much. He's definitely gonna be in history
@@lucyanne9626 Don't forget Velum Children, his sequel to his short game Lips Like Velum
If you love them so much why don't you marry them then
@@NULL-ug7ve i would if I knew them
This guy is making some of the best horror games. He confronts the true dread of existentialism, which is way scarier and more real than Sirenhead in the woods...
Plus the deep ocean for just added terror
And the visuals too, everything looks more creepier with the rough style the game's visuals have.
That’s not the point of sirenhead
in defense of sirenhead, that thing can be terrifying if given the right atmosphere
Sirenhead is a different sort of horror, there is no comparison.
Horror is a very broad genre. There’s room for both.
"an angel?..."
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@@TalionRarshak it's called supporting creators... im willing to be advertised some food in order for ABG to continue what he does for us, paid, same goes for any creator I'm happy to support
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@@rot6662 what
This person knows how to do Lovecraftian horror the correct way.
What's the correct way? What's the wrong way?
@@ryanhernandez1877 I don't know exactly what the right way is, but I certainly know the wrong way is to fucking shoot Cthulhu with a shotgun
@@ryanhernandez1877 I guess the wrong way it's just to make cthulhu-like monsters, or to copy Lovecraft's stories and worldbuilding (like the typical fishermen village or the dark-eerie New England town), or maybe don't letting ppl imagine or guess about things. One of the best elements of cosmic horror is that it lets you use your imagination and terrify yourself about the implications of things
I'm kinda burned off and tired of these themes after playing many "lovecraftian/eldritch" games and movies for many years, and even reading now the original Lovecraft's books makes me feel bored, like reading a copy from a copy (which is awful), this game though, seems to scratch that itch for me
Instantly recognized it being from the creator of “discover my body”. Definitely left me with that “wtf” feeling just like with the first one.
That creature is inspired by magnapinna (bigfin squids) if anyone’s interested lol
Ah yes, the long bois of the squid universe
Holy shit they're horrifying
Wtf
@ETHAN SEBASTIAN LAYANA GAMARRA Nah, the one with the long tentacles as far as we know is an adult. We've never collected adult specimens though, just seen them in the wild. The larva have short tentacles and all the genus was known from until we saw mr dangly. Keep in mind we just assume that the long tentacled thing is the adult of Magnapinna, it could be a knew species of Magnapinna, or it could be a related squid.
I've known about magnapinnas for a while, they are interesting but they also REALLY freak me out
I’m convinced we don’t live in the same time zone because no sane person uploads these kinds of games at 4:AM consistently
Must be in Europe or something, maybe Australia? Possibly Asia
1 AM where I'm at
Here 5:05 when it was uploaded
Southern europe: 10am
@@francoredstone4799 same
love the lack of explicit horror in these games. its scary, yes, but the characters treat the situations as normal or wonderful rather than rightfully terrifying. its not traditional and i love it
Ahhh, I love the symbolism so much!
I'm not sure if this was the creator's intent, but that coral seems to be an allegory for the Fruit of Life, which is really neat! Also, the fact that the fish down here can't tell the difference between light and dark, kind of like how the Knowledge of the Tree of Good and Evil made humanity be able to tell them apart in a more metaphorical sense-- In this narritive, that could be literal!
Another thing that struck me was how the main character describes feeling like they were once part of something bigger, like they'd been ripped out and left to float: almost like a fetus, really. Wouldn't be too far of a stretch considering the title of the game, and its "return to the womb" narritive. The yearning for a simpler, safer time. This is a really, really interesting take on Christian theology, and I hope to see more like it.
But, yeah. This is really, really neat and I love it
This could easily be turned into a much bigger game. Hell, I'd love it even if it was just more stuff to read. The developer has some really cool ideas, but ends them too quickly. Dude needs to make a full game sometime, I think it'd do pretty well.
Funny how the angels here are depicted as other worldly beings. I would instantly shit my pants if I met those kind of angels in real life.
Same, if I was in protags shoes, the angel would have stopped at some point in his monologue to tell me to stop screaming. Then I would have high tailed it out of there because nope nope nope.
@@gracekelley2907 hence the phrase, "do not be afraid"
@@bosselotiscanon lol, yeah. If angels look more like monsters than pretty people in robes, I totally get why they would start by saying that.
@@gracekelley2907 so I hear they were described as incredibly monstrous and horrifying, and would say that exactly because of their alarming presence
@@gracekelley2907 Actually, In the Old Testament it was depicted that angels actually looked like the pure version of Lovecraftian creatures. So what he said about angels looking like other world beings were actually biblically true.
(Heres a picture if you are curious) pbs.twimg.com/media/EH3rx1pWoAM88L5.png
My priest and biology teacher: Relax, eldritch lovecraftian combo of creationism and evolution theory doesn't exist.
Eldritch lovecraftian combo of creationism and evolution theory:
Priest and biology teacher? Strange mix.
@@b0onsen182 Well, when there's a common enemy...
Oh no, I think I recognise the art style
Haha, yeah it's from Yames, the creator of Discover My Body and Lips Like Velum :)
oh no...
I noticed it too 😱
Foreshadowing
Oh, yes…
So I'm gonna go ahead and assume the whole "Ate of the Forbidden Fruit" was.. actually the coral? Probably? Cause it's mentioned that "Their ancestors" ate forbidden fruit. And, since the origin is on the seabed.. I just used these two sentences to repeat myself.
The coral seems to actually be the Fruit of Life, as the deathless fishes are reported to have nearly no cell degradation, and a lot of coral in the stomach.
From what I see, the coral IS god. The coral has neurons, which may very well be far powerful than a human brain, mentioned to be "hyper capable of generating a consciousness field". Judging by the previous game of Discover My Body, this game might be in the same universe, the first fish being subject to "laser vivisection", a technology we do not have at the moment. Discover my Body is set in the future, and the fungus is mentioned to have "crystalline, latticelike psychic receptors", confirming the existence of psychic abilities in certain species. The protag at the end probably was subject to mutation by "god" 's psychic abilities, presumably the generated "consciousness field" and became an aquatic protohuman, the original "sons of adam".
@@theloweffortchannel7211 And let's not forget that in this game, the protagonist mentions "feeling cut off from a greater whole" via the original sin and Discover My Body is all about connecting to a collective consciousness of all of humanity.
The coral is the fruit of life, considering the red colored immortal things that seem to suffer ego death
@@theloweffortchannel7211 nah,the game dev said he didn't make it in the same universe,but your theories are so damn cool °
What a madlad this dude endangers his life to find god
You atheist
He should have paid him 25 cents
a man of culture
Excuse me i mean its impossible to see god until death since we cannot see him but he can see us all
@ETHAN SEBASTIAN LAYANA GAMARRA Yes.
I can never get enough of my man's horror games, they are so incredibly characteristic, and extremely creati e with their concepts, something i havent even seen before, it is all so fascinating ^ ^
The concept is Lovecraftian horror, the fear of the unknown, yet our curiosity, our drive to gain knowledge and as the unknown becomes the known, the human mind breaks and shatters at the mere sight of the infinite, indifference of all powerful, and mostly malevolent being beyond human understanding, wholly alien to us. As we slowly descend into madness as we fail to make sense of it.
Is this the same developer who made a game about performing a surgery on a guy and watch the subject slowly morph into another entity?
Yea same dude
Yup that’s the person
I mean... that's what the title of the video says.
Yep he made the game were a guy morphed himself into a pickle Spookiest shit I've ever seen
Raihand Noeramrin Whats that game called?
Well this pisses me off... Such a beautiful game and great at immersion but so short. This MUST be made into a full length
Yames is making a full length sequel to Discover My Body. I’m both excited and and terrified to play it.
@@mightymuso discover my body was good but I see far more potential in this. Just my opinion. This one is absolutely stunning to me.
@@TheDashingDevils How much more could you add to it, though? Maybe it's better it was kept short and sweet in order to empathize the game's message.
If you like reading, The Deep by Nick Cutter might fill your itch for deep sea body horror. It’s pretty much the same kind of
mind fuck although it lacks the religious overtones.
@@Schesso I plan on picking up the book this weekend. Thanks!
Very interesting concept... and terrifying.
When I pick up a girl on a night out:
Got her! I will examine her when I get back to the Lab
what
Bruh
Relatable
Dus
The concepts this developer creates are way to good to be used on such a short experience. Discover My Body was a very memorable experience as was Water Womb World. Somebody needs to make a movie with a concept like this honestly. I can't wait to see more of what this developer creates. I just wish the games were way longer.
My thoughts on the plot.
Introduction:
The Son of Adam is a theist who believes both in god and science, and is obsessed with finding the supposed birthplace of humanity, the Gaspar Zone. In order to achieve this, he built a futuristic base on the oceanic floor to conduct his research.
First trip:
Here he finds that all lifeforms in the Gaspar Zone are obviously acuatic, made of stone or metal, very long-lived and have some form of blindness, all but the Adamite, an ancestor of humanity which seems to have eyes. This may or may not be related to his 5% of ancestral corruption, implying that seeing and thus evolving into a more complex creature is in some way straying from the path of God. He also found some scuba glasses, implying that he’s not the first on the Gaspar Zone.
Second trip:
Here he meets with the Golden Angel, who has disabled the Son of Adam’s lights, further proving that God and his affiliated entities dislike it and the concept of seeing. His warning is actually quite straightforward. Telling the Son of Adam that if he leaves now, he’ll continue to be a human, but if he stays in the Gaspar Zone, he’s going to have to join God. Our protagonist refuses to leave and continues his research.
Third trip:
Here we find out that all the fish in the Gaspar Zone appear to have eaten Red Coral, an organism of unknown properties. Apparently, it is covered in human neurons, create hive-minded individuals, crash the lab’s examination machine and create alucinations.
Fourth trip:
The lights are off again, sing of divine entities nearby. However, these angels are much more stranger than the last one. Yet despite their appearance, they seem able to talk. They drive the Son of Adam mad and force him to retreat to his lab. There he convinces himself to be hungry and join God. This is probably what the first angel was warning him about on the second trip.
Fifth (and last) trip:
The Son of Adam is suffering from the same traits as the Gaspar Zone’s lifeforms, being able to breath underwater, having black sockets for eyes and a rocky, red skin. He eventually starts eating a lot of Red Coral, which seems to attract the Red Angels from before. They reveal him their full body, ending on a red eye.
Conclusion:
Considering the hive-minded powers of the Red Coral, what the Golden Angel said and the scuba glasses, it’s safe to assume that the Son of Adam joined the Red Angel’s collective consciousness in order to be able to live forever in the Gaspar Zone. The Red Angel is probably a union of all the previous divers that went there. Now wether this is something good or bad for the protagonist is hard to determine, but I would say that it is indeed good as the purpose of Christian Religion is to unite with god, just like the Son of Adam did, even if by a very unorthodox method.
Wow cool
So my theory is that this game is an allegory for those who seek out the monastic tradition for the wrong reasons. Seeking union with god, however fueled by their own fantasies and ego. This is furthered by the whole mirror situation. Seeking out this selfish piousness attracted demons in the end.
The emphasis placed on "I AM" in the Bible was probably the inspiration for this horror.
What does it actually mean to be, "I AM"?
Darkseid is
check out parmenides's ontology
I Am, is the thought or rather, the belief that one thinks they think, they Are, they exist.
They believe themselves to be in existence, therefore, They Are.
I think, therefore, I Am.
I AM is one of God's names. When introducing Himself to Moses in that specific instance, he said "I AM who I AM." or in another translation "I WILL BE what I WILL BE." It's a title demonstrating his eternal existence. Plus an identifier, as all names are.
I Am that I Am.
I've gone down a rabbit hole with this dev's work. It reminds me of the early newgrounds days of horror games, but with an actual budget and quality.
I'm always conflicted whether to watch your new videos or stop them and play the game for myself. It's a tough call every time
Yeah! Same same
Imagine what he could do with an actual budget and team. Beautiful.
My personal interpretation of the ending: The massive creature is NOT God, and the protag was simply tricked. Like Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit, the protag ate the coral, which could have also been forbidden in some way. The angel was most likely a legit one trying to steer the protag away from this potentially "false" god, to no avail. It could also be that his mind was simply unstable and, being alone in the depths for too long, his sanity slipped and he went out into the water without his gear, dying shortly thereafter and the rest of the ordeal was simply a dying dream.
Please not "it was all a dream" that's the dumbest shit
@@RealSelene It could be that the protagonist's consciousness was taken from his brain leaving his body. Then this false god took it and put it in a vessel for him to use then the protagonist used it to descend to hell?
@@RealSelene he didnt say it was all a dream, he meant the last few bits, as if the false god was tricking him
@@RealSelene it's not just a "it's all a dream" theory it was implied he is starting to go insane and losing care with going in the water prepared. First him forgeting to bring a light and second him saying "I feel as If I barely even need this oxygen underwater anymore" so hia theory of him going underwater without an equipment and him "meeting god" being a dying dream can be valid.
Very lovecraftian, and the atmosphere is very heavy. I really enjoyed it.
i never knew i needed abrahamic lore mixed with a lovecraft deep one cult
i believe that this guy was very close to death and during research he started to hallucinate and his imagination made the passing out and dissolving consciousness feel something he actually desired
Yames, you absolute madman. I'm absolutely hooked on these games, from the stylistic choices to the topics themselves! gonna be thinkin about this for days to come yet again
what an excellent premise for a game. Ended somewhat abruptly but i really enjoyed this one
Plot twist: The protagonist forgot to check his scuba tanks air delivery before diving.
it was all a dream / you were dead all along is such a boring cliche I hope it stops coming up
What a shitty plot twist idea, lmao
Plot twist: it wasn’t oxygen mixture, it was liquid LSD
LordVader1094 pretty sure their are just minor trolling
plot twist: DUDE! WEED!!!!!!!!!
if my parents told me they were taking me and the family out to Water Womb World, i’d pretend to have a fever
God is spooky red cosmic horror coral.
Is it wrong I find it a lot cooler than the “traditional” depiction of God
it's very refreshing to see one of these indie games so excellently written
So at the end, is the protagonist returning to the “womb” or something?
What is the thing at the end? Is it the womb of humanity, flesh for flesh? Damn what is this?
From what I understand, that glowing thing at the end is the 'womb' from which humanity and the angels were birthed aka 'God'. What it really is though is open to interpretation, it might be the sentient consciousness of the planet or an ancient extraterrestrial, anything goes.
damn this new pokemon game is really interesting
God bless this developer! All of his work of WWW and discover my body has a lot of potential. I’d want to see this in a short film. I’ve never had a game actually leave me thinking and feeling scared after playing it. God bless him!
not religious, but there's something nice and calming about how fearless faith makes this guy.
Remember kids , if an angel squid tells you to leave , do it if you don't want to be eaten by a submarine demon
That's not a demon, that's God. You join him in full flesh.
One of my favorite developers right now, right along with the creator of the Faith series.
While the games the developer makes are very clearly meant to be horrifying, they don't seem scary to me at all. The protagonists or focuses are men of science, well versed in the nature of minds and what will happen to them. They go out intentionally seeking some higher power or higher form of life, and know beforehand that they'll be irrevocably changed into some alien being. They can fully consent (and fully understand) with what happens, and agree to undergo the change. The net effect is comforting, strangely.
It would be much more horrifying if the protagonists thought they knew what they were in for, started to object/run away when full realization hits them, and the thing they are changed into then enjoys the procedure, possibly to carry it out on unwilling others.
I agree. Both _Discover My Body_ and now _Water Womb World_ are strangely serene to me. It's not that I would voluntarily choose to join a psychic fungal gestalt consciousness, nor would I throw myself wholeheartedly into the deeps to become an ascendant/regressed perfect human, but I can certainly understand both characters in their choices to do so. They both make informed decisions, and are aware that they cannot go back once they have begun their journey.
It is their wholehearted willingness to be transformed, transfigured, that is in itself comforting, I suppose.
In my opinion it is scarier the way it is. Knowing full well what you set out to find is, and embrace it. Just like in discover my body
I feel like the horror isn’t meant to come from them being forcibly changed like other body horror works might, but instead that they do willingly let it occur. Discover My Body showed a society that willingly gave up all functions and sentience in exchange for perceivably infinite pleasure as they lost their faith in the real world. This game twists the idea of divinity by portraying closeness to god as straying from science and order and returning to a primitive, impulsive state.
I disagree. What makes this great is that they're Lovecraftian culty characters, being fully aware of what will happen. Much better than if they were normal.
@@LordVader1094 Agreed. This one [in contrast to Discover My Body] seemed explicitly like a Lovecraft character.
Gaspar is a Romance-language variant of the Germano-Slavic "Caspar." Both names mean "treasure keeper." The symbolism should be obvious. :)
Gaspar/Caspar one of the 3 wise men in the bible brainzilla the symbolism IS obvious. Also it means "treasurer" so think accountant.
酸素ボンベ必要なくなった瞬間の絶望感
このHylicsみたいなグラフィック良いね
日本のコメントはどうやってここに来たのですか？どうやってここに来たの？
Oh my GOD, SO COOL! Honestly this is incredibly amazing work and super beautifully freaky.
This game creator astounds me with the work of the previous, and now this, some really amazing work with the atmosphere, story and art, all in a small game.
Awesome video!
11:51
me and the boys at 2 am looking for corals
Ah yes, the good ol' days
10:29 ah that's deep, you could call it a deep fish
Quite the deep cut
Amazing to see how thought provoking this short, 15 minute game is
Yes, this is from the same person who made discover my body
This seems exclusively like a good ending. The guy literally returns to the garden of eden.
The sinful world of humanity seems like a lot more of an interesting and fullfilling place than the water womb world where there is no deep thought, no conflict, no pleasure, not even love is possible since there is no opposite to love. Just feeding on coral forever.
I don’t know why but the “DNA contains several protohuman protiens” is creepier than any jumpscare
hell yeah its another game by this dude! i didnt know how much i loved this kind of genre until i saw his games, now im hooked
This definitely is a trip. Very awesome.
what a wonderful creation! really captures the cosmic lovecraftian terrors that is beyond mankind.
Marine Biologist: nuh uh
Angel squid: fym nuh uh
reject land,return to the water womb
I think it is worth noting that most if not all of the 'biologically immortal' organisms we know of are aquatic, including types of coral and jellyfish.
Tree is most
I mean it makes it most not all
@@timohara7717 I think you may have confused 'oldest living thing' with the concept of 'biological immortality'. They are two different ideas.
@@JovialContrarian umm no coloial trees might just put a new main tree when the old tree dies hopefully
1:11
Literally a ball with an eye
*i'm looking pretty good*
Watching totally weird indie games is really starting to become a new obsession for me... thanks ABG!
HOLY DIVER
YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TOO LONG IN THE MIDNIGHT SEA
This makes me want to eat grape jelly for some reason..
_Shortly later_
"WATER WOMB WORLD"
Now that is some freaky Lovecraftian sh*t...I could almost feel what he was feeling. Just like Shadow Over Innsmouth, he returns to man's birthplace in the sea...to dwell amongst wonder and glory forever...join with the Creator
aghhh his games are so damn cool
thank you for showing us the playthrough, abg!
This dude's games always scare the **** out of me. Keep it up!!! I remember the other one with the fungus guy...
This is the kind of game you could tell me was based on a nightmare the dev had and I’d believe it
wow that was atmospheric and spooky as hell
i finally got around to playing this game last night. all was well and fine and i was streaming it to my partner because we both enjoy this style of horror. anyways, i got to the final "feed on coral" part, and right when the progress bar filled, all power to my house was cut for about a second total. it was more shocking than it was scary but man, what perfect timing lol
Damn I'm loving this guys work, Discover My Body was so unnerving, and this has some great potential. I hope he gets the opportunity to make a full, feature length game!
For a Christian man he sure lacked a lot of *WISDOM*
This game is actually pretty deep (pun intended) and takes a cool spin on christianity. Also, with the coral, I can't help but notice how this feels like the classic "is the protagonist experiencing what they think they are, or is it some kind of chemical leak / radiation causing hallucinations?" question?
Edit: grammar
The sound design is just incredible
You know, just by looking at that screenshot I thought “hey, this reminds me of discover my body. Wonder how the full game’s going?”
Then I read the full title... I can’t wait to watch this.
Question, besides lovecratian what else would this type of fantasy or horror be called? Something that interprets god as some "other worldly horrific being", something mysterious yet really eerie and forbidden, the kind of entity that when one of its followers witnesses its "greatness"..they become twisted and not human like anymore? "When you see god you will witness glory" type of spooky shit. What would that be called and where I can find out more about it? It's hard to explain but i've had that idea about religion for a long time and this is a good example of it
In the previous game, you need to find 6 things to complete the game. Here, same thing. Wonder there's a conclusion to all if this.
Rule of threes
Third game will also need you to fetch 6 things and will end up with a jumpscare while blasting BFG Division in what will turn out to be the most elaborate Doom meme ever.
Yames is making the best shit out there right now. So fucking excited to see what he makes next.
Oh, so the fruit of knowledge caused man to lose eternal life as an ocean... thing. Neat.
I need more games like these. The mix of Religion and Deep sea horror. Our ignorance to the water womb from which we do not have much knowledge of just makes the whole idea of adding religious beliefs that we still dont fully comprehend work.
13:14 he did it! He said it! [Airhorn]
I get the same vibe from this as I do with Junji Ito's work, just deeply disturbing. Love this developer
"Prepare to meet thy God" - Amos 4:12
This is a cool way of telling a short story. Feels like an origin for FAITH or something.
Anyone else getting kind of a first person Clock Tower vibe from this game?
I'm assuming the creature he called an angel was actually a nephilim/watchers. A cross between angels and humans that were large and detestating to humanity. They are the reason Noah's food happens according to the book of Enoch.
I thought about this as well. The scientist seems to be convinced that the antediluvian humans were aquatic when it's clearly stated in Genesis that they were wiped out with a flood. Yames was obviously aware of this when creating the game.
@@lilguy7491 you ever played vampire the masquerade? I think you'll enjoy it.
@@magicman99111 You know what? I've been meaning to get to Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines for a whole because I've heard good things about it. Maybe after I finish Pathologic HD.
"A diving mask...it says P.Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney"
Wow, this was amazing! Well done Yames! True horror right here! Same with the previous title. I am astounded!
As a very religious Catholic.
I approve of this game👌🏼 and i wish it was just a bit longer