World's Lightest, Longest Range eMTB?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • Rich Paynes takes the new KELLYS Theos F100 on an epic adventure in the wilderness of Wales! To ride what KELLYS claim to be the highest energy density per kilogram lightest long-range eMTB in the world.
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Комментарии • 98

  • @embn
    @embn  3 месяца назад +6

    🤔What do you think of the new Kellys Theos F100?
    Let us know in the comments below!

  • @chrisjones6699
    @chrisjones6699 3 месяца назад +18

    Some data would be nice. Distance, elevation, battery left… what’s the point in telling us how good it is without telling us the important stuff?

  • @tomasbata9969
    @tomasbata9969 3 месяца назад +12

    SL ebikes dont make sense if you can have 20kg fullfat with huge battery like this. But the price is steep.

    • @nicolapellegrino1072
      @nicolapellegrino1072 3 месяца назад +8

      The price is steep but sl bikes are not cheaper.

    • @JensLurman
      @JensLurman 3 месяца назад +1

      Well. Tbh for top ebike It's not so off

  • @goingoutotheparty1
    @goingoutotheparty1 3 месяца назад +9

    I'm half way through my second Kelly's EMTB vlog and I already think I'm going to get one, the 4K one

  • @hein_mcleod
    @hein_mcleod 3 месяца назад +13

    All this talk about range and not a single figure given.

    • @richardpayne5176
      @richardpayne5176 3 месяца назад +2

      Keep your eyes peeled, big ride incoming to see what I can get out of it 😉

  • @Driftuner
    @Driftuner 3 месяца назад +6

    Love Kellys bikes

  • @nigelrandtoul8646
    @nigelrandtoul8646 3 месяца назад +1

    That's the trouble with using composites and battery tech to reduce weight, its bloody expensive. I'd rather have a drag free full fat motor for the occasions of riding over the limiter, weight is subjective in an emtb and to ex moto riders, nothing to be concerned with.

  • @MaartenSFS
    @MaartenSFS 3 месяца назад +4

    I’d be interested to see how far you can get on a single charge.

    • @Jamie-c4y
      @Jamie-c4y 3 месяца назад

      My F90 with their 725wh battery can do 55 miles when used enthusiastically

    • @MaartenSFS
      @MaartenSFS 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Jamie-c4y Not nearly enough for me. I need over double that without a range extender for my next upgrade.

    • @frankmatibs8076
      @frankmatibs8076 2 месяца назад

      To be fair the range is good

  • @enjoyingebiking
    @enjoyingebiking 3 месяца назад +1

    Any chance we could get Owen to do a epic ride taken in gravel, towpath, double track and single track on the Kelly's Theos R30 aluminium as this is the most affordable to most of us normal minions. And answer some of the fundamental information we all like to know when considering buying an E bike. What the bike is like to pedal above the 25kmph, how far you can get on one 8.25 wh battery, and what modes he used predominantly using ecco or trail. Thanks 👍🏻

  • @drewford5252
    @drewford5252 3 месяца назад +7

    Try doing the west highland way, that'll test range👍🤘

    • @richardpayne5176
      @richardpayne5176 3 месяца назад

      Great shout, done it on a normal bike but an Eeb 🤔 the hike-a-bike around the loch though would be a killer

  • @Zwiesel66
    @Zwiesel66 3 месяца назад +40

    Oh my God, not another 12,999.00 EUR eBike, are you kidding me? Some bike manufacturers seem to have lost their grip on reality. You have to be crazy to spend so much money on technology that will be outdated in a year's time.

    • @MartinLaufl
      @MartinLaufl 3 месяца назад +4

      Its 10999

    • @JensLurman
      @JensLurman 3 месяца назад +8

      You can say this about everything. Why bother putting such comment.

    • @doctorjules187
      @doctorjules187 3 месяца назад +4

      Agree. Glad there are incremental improvements in energy density, but I’m still loving my 2019 alloy levo! in general, the battery & motor tech isn’t different on $6k bikes

    • @Zwiesel66
      @Zwiesel66 3 месяца назад +11

      @@JensLurman Wrong! There is a difference between an expensive bike and an economical bike. Even an expensive bike can be economical and sensible - this bike is just expensive, so this video is pure advertising for an overpriced bike pretending to be a review - it doesn't look good on GCN. Meanwhile that happens too often on GCN.

    • @svenball5384
      @svenball5384 3 месяца назад

      @@Zwiesel66absolut right. Value for money is not right. On top I doubt that there is an adequate resell value

  • @nomad-pq4yw8iy7v
    @nomad-pq4yw8iy7v 3 месяца назад +1

    Not to bag on it to hard but ..... range extender aren't the answer there almost a bodge. Calm down I said almost🙂. The future hold better solutions but, may not be backwards compatible.

  • @dangerfulmind
    @dangerfulmind 3 месяца назад +10

    Yeap, as always.... "At that price they can keep it!"

    • @mikefromuk
      @mikefromuk 3 месяца назад +4

      Prices of these top tech bikes are insane. However still better then simple roadbike

  • @snowboarder753
    @snowboarder753 2 месяца назад

    Do people actually buy bikes at this price, I brought the Orbea rise H30 and that was 4k which was hard to justify
    And yea it’s outdated the next day, but will say it’s been a great bike .

  • @Thedoug369
    @Thedoug369 3 месяца назад +4

    Its too bad you can't get these in XL. Id definitely be interested but being 6'6 a large just won't work for me.

  • @rudozoltan
    @rudozoltan 3 месяца назад +4

    I have F90 and its best bike ever

    • @tomasbata9969
      @tomasbata9969 3 месяца назад

      Wow great. F90 looks superb! Wish I have it also one day

    • @frankmatibs8076
      @frankmatibs8076 2 месяца назад

      Mine snapped

    • @frankmatibs8076
      @frankmatibs8076 2 месяца назад

      But when it’s running it’s a fantastic bike to ride

    • @tomasbata9969
      @tomasbata9969 2 месяца назад

      @@frankmatibs8076 I've read from someone they had problem with first batches and took them few months to implement the changes

  • @lukib2984
    @lukib2984 2 месяца назад

    what avarege elevation were you able to achieve with this battery/motor?

  • @Extremegaz25
    @Extremegaz25 3 месяца назад +2

    How much?

  • @porroco
    @porroco 3 месяца назад

    Ehy bycicles company takes so much to update a bike model like santacruz ebike & yeti, i want to change my ebike every year, but i had to do it by differents brands turbo levo then santacruz bullit then a yeti 160e, but yeti is with the same bike model like 5 years ago

  • @ortegapcs
    @ortegapcs 3 месяца назад

    That bike has not Auto Shift but Free Shift. Completely differrent things

  • @censorshipBS
    @censorshipBS 3 месяца назад +3

    Ive got a full xtr Santacruz Superlight from 2002 in mint condition. I just put a cyc photon on it and i have 250-750w 110nm that weighs 20kgs. Proper bike ❤😊

  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv2538 3 месяца назад +2

    I’m sorry but when emtb brands just keep talking about weight it makes me wonder what gimmicks they pulled to get the numbers and how average the rest of the bike must be. Because the dark secret only people who actually ride emtbs know is this: 5-10 lbs doesn’t matter when you have a full power motor. What is more important is geo, linkage and shock tuning, and having heavy duty enough components to handle the extra speed and weight and gnarliness that bike is gonna get fed. Give me a bike that weighs a few extra pounds but has 220s, a 38 fork, 35 rims and heavy duty casing tires, and a well designed linkage with unique to that bike shock tuning over something that happens to weigh a few pounds less any day.

    • @Jamie-c4y
      @Jamie-c4y 3 месяца назад +1

      The range of Theos bikes including the F100 all use a variation of Kellys Think Link.
      A Virtual Pivot style linkage which is then adapted specifically for e-bikes to allow supple yet well supported suspension action.
      The F100 is definitely designed as a trail bike which is why it’s fitted with the Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.4/2.8 setup opposed to the Eddy Current on the F70/F90 & the 825wh battery certainly isn’t cutting corners to get the weight down - that’s the point of this bike. It has everything you need

    • @dadventuretv2538
      @dadventuretv2538 3 месяца назад

      @@Jamie-c4y that’s great. Your comment was better than this video

  • @OperationDarkside
    @OperationDarkside 3 месяца назад

    Looks like a great bike, but for me every bike is an eMTB as long as it has E and you ride it in the mountains. And my bike probably hates me.

  • @nesimsarac1841
    @nesimsarac1841 3 месяца назад +1

    Any one know what the battery cells used are called ?

    • @Jamie-c4y
      @Jamie-c4y 3 месяца назад +1

      They’re BMZ Batteries custom made for Kellys

    • @nesimsarac1841
      @nesimsarac1841 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Jamie-c4y No info on which cells they use

    • @Jamie-c4y
      @Jamie-c4y 3 месяца назад

      That information isn’t publicly available sadly but the Kellys 825Wh battery weighs less than the Bosch 750Wh

  • @jbdbsb
    @jbdbsb 3 месяца назад

    Yes, run it until dead 3 times in Eco, trail & Boost.

  • @theflowpowa42oshow
    @theflowpowa42oshow 3 месяца назад

    I bet I can carry you on my back further than that mtn ebike

  • @davefreeman9347
    @davefreeman9347 3 месяца назад

    Yes definitely love those range test videos 👌

  • @Cheapsh0t247
    @Cheapsh0t247 3 месяца назад

    Brilliantly shot and edited chaps, seriously inspirational work. Could you share the locations of the shoot or routes, looks a fantastic route which us somerset lads we would ride.

    • @OldNorthern_eMTBer
      @OldNorthern_eMTBer 3 месяца назад +1

      He's on The Black Mountain riding the bridleway that runs at 10 o'clock from Glyntawe. Don't confuse the area with The Black Mountains by Hay on Wye (note the 'S', mountain, not mountains) They do like to keep there locations secret but I've ridden most of their Welsh ones 👍

  • @romma11
    @romma11 2 месяца назад

    sweet bike, but for me water bottle cage on frame is a must, I like to ride with no backpacks

    • @mikefromuk
      @mikefromuk 2 месяца назад

      Bottle cage mount is in top tube/seat tube corner.

  • @thealchemist794
    @thealchemist794 3 месяца назад

    Full turbo. Go!

  • @mtbalpinecounty
    @mtbalpinecounty 3 месяца назад

    💪

  • @gulfcoastpickleball
    @gulfcoastpickleball 3 месяца назад

    👍

  • @lahvancz
    @lahvancz 3 месяца назад +1

    Extender is a good option when the battery is older and starts to lose capacity, so you do not get stuck on the way home... That is just reality for those who do not get handed over new bikes every few months to make a review. 😅

    • @Jamie-c4y
      @Jamie-c4y 3 месяца назад +1

      Except dying batteries will prematurely kill a range extender when used like that. Its cheaper just to have a bigger battery

  • @TetsugakuSan
    @TetsugakuSan 3 месяца назад +2

    How much is it ffs? No e-bike on the planet is worth more than six grand and I bet this is double that. Bike for fools.

  • @fowzst
    @fowzst 3 месяца назад +1

    They clearly have an 80% profit margin on this bike 😂

    • @Jamie-c4y
      @Jamie-c4y 3 месяца назад

      The issue is that’s the perception and not the reality. Many bike brands operate on a 20% margin. Obviously the big brands make more on run of the mill aluminium bikes

    • @mikefromuk
      @mikefromuk 3 месяца назад +1

      On roadbikes I can imagine. Here? Not a chance. Full carbon ebike full suspention frame. New gen battery with some custom developement. Ep801. Di2 electronic XT. Carbon RaceFace wheelset. Carbon cocpit, even the seatpost is KS carbon version.

  • @boofex1
    @boofex1 3 месяца назад +4

    I can’t stop dreaming about a Pinion MGU… specifically the Nicolai Saturn 16 XXL❤

  • @MrFlapstick
    @MrFlapstick 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice infomercial…

  • @andyjones3183
    @andyjones3183 3 месяца назад +5

    Nope 👎 Shimano motor, ugly, not a popular brand so hard resell value.

  • @josephcox2201
    @josephcox2201 3 месяца назад

    We don't want you to do the reviews.We want steave

  • @richardkaz2336
    @richardkaz2336 3 месяца назад

    That bike looked way too small for the presenter. Not only in the reach but also the seat height while peddling.

  • @fudganuld
    @fudganuld 3 месяца назад

    Thats the Top of the Range model...what do the lower spec versions weigh eh !! Not Light at all.....Ha !!

    • @Jamie-c4y
      @Jamie-c4y 3 месяца назад

      Depending on the model, my F90 is 22kg, R50 alloy bikes 24-25kg depending on size

  • @grahamsmith9788
    @grahamsmith9788 3 месяца назад +3

    in my experience, EMTB technology is still so new that it's best to have local support, i.e. buy from a local dealer who are part of a network backed up by a national importer/distributor. It looks like Kellys are some way off achieving that in the UK - it seems there is only one dealer, who is also the importer.

    • @MartinLaufl
      @MartinLaufl 3 месяца назад +2

      I did som googling. It aeema they are sold in 4 places. If its not farnaeay then its ok. Its shimano system and the batery seems same platform as on other Kellys emtbs so they should be well equipped for the diagnostic, soft uodatong and all that

    • @Jamie-c4y
      @Jamie-c4y 3 месяца назад +1

      Kellys operates a dealer direct model throughout Europe. Because of the challenges with currency, shipping and cost, it’s not possible to do that in the UK.
      We offer National coverage and support in the UK including in person delivery & have everything you’d need diagnostics and spares wise.

  • @daithidebarradb
    @daithidebarradb 3 месяца назад +3

    My diy ebike has 888wh battery and only 23kg. Built it four or more years ago for 1300 euro with 120nm of torque. Prices are crazy these days, a decent off-road motorcycle would be cheaper which I can't understand.

    • @joseluiszamorano7525
      @joseluiszamorano7525 3 месяца назад +1

      Excelent!!!!! What motor, battery, frame, fork, shock, drive train, display, brakes, rims, tires did you use?

  • @stableianF1oracle
    @stableianF1oracle 3 месяца назад +2

    I bought the Cube Stereo Race for £3100 with 150 front 140 back with carbon frame and a 750 watt hour battery. Just today I’ve ridden 62 miles and climbed 4,500 feet and still had 4% battery left. What more could you want. 😊😊😊

  • @Slymobi
    @Slymobi 3 месяца назад

    So..... I like the look of this and headed to Kelly's official web !! What an absolute joke. Only a single UK dealer under the name Balfa or something?? And not able to even access that link. Why review a bike that's not even available to us in the UK FFS

  • @Vinman-se6mx
    @Vinman-se6mx 3 месяца назад +3

    I have a friend that has had two issues with the Kelley’s composite frame.
    One cracked seat tube, frame replaced and then less than 6 rides with the new frame snaps the frame above the axle hole on the rear triangle

    • @TheJubeiam
      @TheJubeiam 3 месяца назад

      I had this frame and can confirm. My frame did cracked, but after 3 months waiting for new frame Kellys returned the money. I must say that I ride very hard so for normal riding like in the briliant video like this one it should be ok.

    • @Vinman-se6mx
      @Vinman-se6mx 3 месяца назад

      @@TheJubeiam my mate doesn’t ride that hard, and is hoping fora refund

    • @mikefromuk
      @mikefromuk 3 месяца назад +4

      First batch had issues apperently. Friend of mine has F70 bought in january, works great. I bought Alluminium version of this bike but I'm quite envy as this F-series looks rad. Btw it seems this is different material frame then F70/F90.

  • @rmb86
    @rmb86 3 месяца назад +1

    I thought the Giant Trance X Advanced E+ Elite 1 E-Mountain Bike has the crown for world's lightest 🤔

    • @psycho29ski
      @psycho29ski 3 месяца назад +1

      Me too..... 🤔

    • @lukaslabanic4081
      @lukaslabanic4081 3 месяца назад +6

      It has less than half battery capacity

    • @tomasbata9969
      @tomasbata9969 3 месяца назад +5

      This is real full fat lightweight ebike. Those 400wh hybrids are compromise not worth taking

  • @svenball5384
    @svenball5384 3 месяца назад

    The 2nd presentation doesn’t make it less ugly

  • @martinyuhas929
    @martinyuhas929 3 месяца назад

    They should be able to sell 5 or 6 at that price

  • @mariojukic7355
    @mariojukic7355 3 месяца назад

    Yo can you test ROSE ROOT MILLER PLUS 3999 euro Carbon, 85nm,625kw bat. cheapest carbon frame in EU

  • @michaelburt620
    @michaelburt620 3 месяца назад

    Agree with prev comment. Utter nonsense, An £11,000 bike that weighs 20kg! Big deal but it not really your ‘everymans’ bike. My 3k Giant e stance weighs only a couple of kilos more. Love your down-to-earth stuff but really dislike these overly priced options. Its a thumbs down from me