Test pilots like Eric Brown got to fly many aircraft in their long careers. Brown himself flew close to 500 different models by the time of his death. If there was an ideal job to have in the war, perhaps this was it? Share your thoughts below.
Test pilot is awfully risky, planes back then weren't as reliable even after being fully tested. Doubly so if you are German, I still like to think the Komet was built because someone HATED Luftwaffe pilots.
'Winkle' flew some very very dodgy aircraft indeed - including the ME-262 and Komet. He survived, and the interviews with him here on YT are well worth a watch. Astonishing man, and, like all Carrier pilots before and since, very brave indeed.
@@quineloe Sure, corporate fraud has a huge impact. But most modern planes, including Boeings, have a far better safety record than anything flying in the 40s.
"Don't take the toys away from the boys." As a pilot, you are absolutely right! My secret is revealed! Have you been spying on me? We are very very very very fond of them. The ground crew must not be forgotten and it is good you remembered and dedicated time to their actions. It is they who really own the aircraft and care for them. We just try not to break them. Great to see and hear how much you both are having fun making this episode. It was a joy to watch and listen!
@@kenle2 Its just that when bore size is measured that was a 50 mm gun, while the Warthog "only' has a 30mm. It has 6 of them and they shoot depleted uranium but we won't mention that 🤣🤣
Reminds me of a Pacific war anecdote about the Nampbu pistol of all things. The American advance was so swift, that they captured and repair an airfield overnight. A Japanese pilot, likely of a scout plane, lands on it likely thinking the airstrip was still in Imperial hands. Cue his surprise when a team of armed flight mechanics and MPs walk up to him. This being a Pacific war story, the pilot doesn't get the hint and reaches for his nambu pistol.
Richard Mort, who was a courier for Patton's army told me that toward the end of the war he and his buddies saw an ME-262 and sat in the cockpit and fired off the guns. They had no idea how to fly the thing so they blasted away until they got bored. The next day there were signs around the airplane warning of mines. He laughed while telling this. They knew there were no mines but they stayed away anyways.
Armin Faber's story reminds me of the story when a Soviet pilot, Captain Fyodor Zinoviev, landed a MiG-21 in a French airbase in Berlin. He and his squadron were flying the new MiG-21PFM variant from the Soviet Union to the Cottbus airbase in East Germany, southeast of Berlin. They got a bit disoriented in their flight, eventually found Tegel airbase, which is towards the north end of West Berlin. He missed a few landmarks that were different (like a gigantic city immediately to the south and east of the airfield), tried to radio for permission to land, then decided the base's radio had malfunctioned, told his squadron to stay in the air, and landed to check things out. Upon landing, he promptly realized the people running toward him had the wrong uniforms on, the planes were marked with French and American markings, all the vehicles looked different, etc...and while he was taking this in he also noticed the runway had been blocked with fire trucks to stop him from leaving. But unlike Faber, he was flying the latest generation of the MiG21, which featured a couple of modifications that made for particularly impressive takeoff performance (ironically possibly the only thing onboard aside from the exact specifics of the radar system used in modern Soviet planes that would actually impress NATO engineers). So he gunned it down one of the taxiways (which, while flat, are shorter and narrower than runways), actually managed to take off, giving the French folks hoping to take him and his plane into custody quite a surprise. Whereupon he joined his comrades, figured out the big city was Berlin, and then successfully made his way to Cottbus. Apparently his commander told him he was an idiot for landing at a NATO airbase and a hero for managing to take off from it again. (My source on this is a Ukrainian channel called Paper Skies. Since that video ("When a Soviet MiG-21 accidentally landed on a NATO airfield") is a Nebula exclusive, I'll instead point you towards "The Hilarious Story of How a Soviet Bomber Got Lost" which involves a bomber taking off on a routine exercise, promptly flying the exact opposite direction he was supposed to, dropping practice bombs on what was likely a group of extremely surprised fishermen, then turned back and tried to land in Iran instead of Belarus. It's a great story!
another excellent episode of Spies n Ties...when/if this war ends I'm going to watch the whole series again and soak it all in. Appreciate you both, thanks!!
I had a great uncle who was an engineer for Douglas during WW2. When the U.S. captured an BF109 fighter in North Africa. He got to go to North Africa and study the captured BF109. He also was an engineer on the A-26 Invader.
My great uncle was shot down and killed off the coast of Italy on August 11, 1943 by an Axis pilot, supposedly German Lt. Col. Angelo Tondi, flying a captured Lockheed P-38 Lightning.
That's a German with a very evident Italian name... He was indeed italian, the chief test pilot of the Reggia Aeronautica. And he did really attacked a B-17 formation with a captured P-38
Tondi was an Italian Air Force test pilot who experimented with a captured P38. There is some disputed evidence he shot down one or two B-17s before his P-38 became unflyable due to the poor quality of Italian avgas. In his book "Flying Forts" Martin Caidin wrote a highly fictional account of this story.
@@Col_K I said German because the information from the 301st Bomb Group on their website said "German". Certainly my first reaction when I looked the name back up was to think that it was a very stereotypically Italian name.
Check out " Messerspit the frankenstein fighter " , Its the story of pilot Bernard Scheidhauser of 131 Spitfire squadron he flew over France in his Spitfire Designated EM830 , After his sortie over France he made his way back to Britain , but became confused and landed in occupied Jersey . His Spitfire was taken by the Luftwaffe and had its Merlin engine removed and replaced with a Daimler Benz DB 605a engine , and then they tested the aircraft which then surpassed both the Messersmit109 and the Spitfire in all aspects of speed , height , and handling .
Australia didn't need to "capture" its Dornier Do24 Flying boats; it obtained them from the Dutch. How the Netherlands got them in the first place is not clear as Germany forbade their export. They are believed to be the only warplanes that saw regular (as opposed to experimental or assessment) service on both sides in WW2. The Luftwaffe's 260-odd planes well outnumbered Australia's six! After the War they were scrapped apart from one fuselage which still exists in Victoria near the Murray River.
What a great video 🙂 I listened very carefully just in case they should say things only once... I met Eric Brown several years ago and he signed his book for me . More of this please ;-)
My paternal great-uncle was in the 54th Air Disarmament Squadron. He was Staff Sgt. Thomas A. Hall, who joined the military in February of 1942, and died still in service around Metz, France, on 9 July 1945 as the result of an unfortunate automobile accident. He was later interred in the US Military cemetery in St. Avold - Metz, at the age of 38. In July 1947, the family (Thomas' brother, my paternal grandfather and great aunt) requested that the War Department disinter him from his plot and send his remains to the USA, so that he may be re-buried in the family plot. This, of course, was done in accordance to their wishes. He was survived by a widow (Blanche) and a daughter, whom he ever met. Anna, Astrid, and Spartacus, I thank you for this episode. In the name of my family, I give you great thanks. -Phil Hall
The Luftwaffe test pilot lamenting the situation for their unit is understandable. The manpower situation was quite dire. It was well known that when the war was in its late stages, the German government had made a lot of Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe personnel become infantry. Old men or those with conditions that would have disqualified someone from being conscripted earlier in the war? Not anymore. Bodies were needed and so the Volkssturm were formed. This kind of stuff was happening in 1944.
Interesting episode!!! While playing the Play Station II video game, "Secret Weapons Over Normandy", one of the missions was to land in occupied France early in the war - during Dunkirk - and capture an FW-190 and fly it back to England. Later in the game you are supposed to fly in a bombing mission over Germany in a B-17, bail out and land. After landing, then search and capture the vaunted ME-262, which will become quite handy with the remainder of the game because it is basically the only aircraft that can combat all those crazy German jets that come at you with a vengeance!!!
The Akutan Zero, also known as Koga's Zero (古賀のゼロ) and the Aleutian Zero, was a type 0 model 21 Mitsubishi A6M Zero Japanese fighter aircraft piloted by Petty Officer Tadayoshi Koga, that crash-landed on Akutan Island, Alaska Territory
@@davidkinsey8657*quickly glances at US Wildcat combat records at the Coral Sea, Midway and the Solomons*, Yeah I’m not to sure about that. By the time of the Solomon Islands campaign F4F Wildcats were trading more than evenly with Japanese Zero fighters. What’s more important about the Akutan Zero is that it showed the US that they were properly countering the strengths of the Zero fighter and that it wasn’t some other factor.
This great episode to watch. I knew a little about captured aircraft. Accidental landings by Germans during Battle of Britain. Captured Hurricanes and Spitfires during Fall of France. A Higher Calling, AA gunners didn't shoot down Charlie Brown's B17 cause it was being escorted Stigler's 109. They knew of the KG 200 and didn't want to cause a friendly fire incident.
There is a comma missing in that listing, and a bit of inconsistency in our nomenclature choices.. should have been P38s, P51s… or Lightings, Mustangs… as you’re see, despite rumors otherwise, we’re human after all 🤷🏼
@@spartacus-olsson That's not what Indy is reported to have said according to an Anonymous Source, at the local tavern...Also reported, rather Impressively, Indy did not make such a claim until after his 5th Scotch...ps.While Indy appears to be a Scotch man... Sparty in contrast could definitely pull off the covert agent type role, a James Bond like character, suave & debonair Martini-loving chap...Indy, while possible seems may be more obvious in such a role... sorta like a Bull in a China shop... On a serious note, I would assume all of the work has been completed for the World War Two Channel and episodes. I would also assume Amazon will secure streaming rights to the compilation as they did the first few years... I do hope there are residuals or perhaps a one time fee they provide you guys...however things are set corporately...Regardless, while many of us speculate and are curious what paths each of you travel moving forward nor is it any of our business to be blunt....even so, I've really enjoyed, appreciated and perhaps most importantly learned so much each episode that I was shocked not having known prior. In short, Thank you for what had to be a grind and wishing each of you happiness & peace moving forward... Take Care
@@spartacus-olsson No reason to be sorry. You guys create amazing stuff. This is the only channel where I would even mention this, as I know you actually care aboudt detailles. Just subb´ed on the korean war channel, so I now know what to whatch the next four years.
The British and the United States were growling over every type of German aircraft! Small side note: the Germans get there hands on a P-51 mustang! It was made from at least 3 or 4 parts of several plans. But they put a engine from a 109 in it and it still out preforms the 109 in manuvers! Still love you ladies doing Spies and Ties :
Ya know… As much as I love the info and the history from these vids? It is sometimes very difficult to get past the absolute beauty of these 2 Ladies. I mean… Distraction much? 😆 Great Vid! Love it! Thanks!
Unfortunately, many of the German planes taken to Wright Field eventually were just buried after testing. In the '90s there was a movement to try to uncover them for historical research. Haven't heard an update since then.
@@spartacus-olsson I am not sure how many Spy- Stories will appear in Korea, but more then enought Material for War against Humanity. A Sad Fact, but at least it gives us plenty of Videos with you to enjoy =)
Many of the airplanes captured by the USA became part of the USAF Physical archive, which eventually became the Museum of the USAF Wright field. I spent a lot of time at the museum which helped in my design work at Boeing in the Military division.
Very enjoyable and informative episode. If you want some further reading on the scientific war of threat analysis and counter measures would recommend getting a copy of 'Most Secret War' by R V Jones who led the British scientific teams identifying unknown weapons and what actions could be deployed to defend against them.
It's always nice to see Astrid Deinhard and Anna Deinhard. I, wish, we had gotten more "Spies & Ties" content, in the past year. Then again, I am over 50 vids behind. World War Two picked up their content, from the usual two vids per week, as in years past. Can't keep up with working so much. "See You Next Time, Darlings."
Great episodes. Duxford still has lots of German WW2 planes and is a great place to do flight spotting/riding or flight training 🙂 I love Duxfort/Cambridge!
I know the episode is less than 18mins but tell us how long did it take to make really because it looked like you two had a lot of fun with this and will you be doing a bloopers video
Tsentralny Aerodynamichesky Gosudarsvtenny Institut (Central Aerodynamic State Institute, TsAGI) was carefully studying all obtained and captured Luftwaffe aircrafts, if possible. It was even a later popular mistake, when they studied Bf 109 F-4 with damaged compressor in 1941, so they issued an instruction that Bf 109 F-4 is weak at high altitudes... Which costed many lives of USSR pilots.
@@lc1138 May be a year or sooner... Anyway, the tactic situation on the soil rendered high-altitude aeroplanes mostly useless. And that was in turn the problem for Luftwaffe. They got to oppose high-alt aviation of UK+US, and low-to-medium-alt aviation of SU. Which is a task for DE engineers, and an additional overload for DE industry.
i think there should be a new channel for spies and ties like Cold War or something. it’s not like anything after August could still be considered “world war two”
I like the dynamic between the Dinehart sisters. I live 30 minutes from Wright, Patterson Air Force Base, and 10 minutes walking distance from a former defense complex locally known as The Mound. It’s interesting. He’ll learn more about local history. That was a part of of world history.
Very much looking forward to the episode on Operation Paperclip, and hoping you cover its mistakes as well as its successes. (Taking in scientists and engineers is common knowledge, but I've also heard they took in a bunch of intelligence agents who claimed to have useful information on the Soviets, but turned out to have virtually nothing and just got to walk out on being enthusiastic Nazis without facing justice.) I'd also love to see, when the time comes, a breakdown of the comparable but much less successful program applied in Japan at the end of the Pacific theatre. Definitely a lot of mistakes made during that affair.
I remember reading in my church's little newspaper many years ago an interview with an Australian pilot who had flown for the RAAF during WW2. One of his assignments was to take some sort of diplomat to Russia for a conference in his de Haviland Mosquito. He said he was forced to leave the airfield over night by the Russians and was positive they had rolled his Mosquito into a nearby hanger and taken it apart and pieced it back together in the interval. I don't think there were any aircraft the Russians had that the Western Allies were much interested in but RAF and USAAF aircraft were apparently of intense interest to the Soviets. Some allies!
There’s a comma there, but also we should have been consistent in the nomenclature… either “…P-38s, P51s…” or “…Lightnings, Mustangs…” but for some reason we made the least logical choice.
Test pilots like Eric Brown got to fly many aircraft in their long careers. Brown himself flew close to 500 different models by the time of his death. If there was an ideal job to have in the war, perhaps this was it? Share your thoughts below.
Test pilot is awfully risky, planes back then weren't as reliable even after being fully tested.
Doubly so if you are German, I still like to think the Komet was built because someone HATED Luftwaffe pilots.
'Winkle' flew some very very dodgy aircraft indeed - including the ME-262 and Komet. He survived, and the interviews with him here on YT are well worth a watch. Astonishing man, and, like all Carrier pilots before and since, very brave indeed.
@@alanlawson4180 Indeed, the Royal Navy were still using him for advice on carrier aviation when he was…ninety five…
@@Significantpower "planes back then weren't as reliable even after being fully tested."
Compared to what, a Boeing?
@@quineloe Sure, corporate fraud has a huge impact. But most modern planes, including Boeings, have a far better safety record than anything flying in the 40s.
I think Spies and Ties should just keep going. It's not like the spy business didn't.
Agreed
Would make a great spinoff!
Wars come and go but spies (and ties) remain.
Especially as the world goes into the Cold War.
Korean War sequel!
"Don't take the toys away from the boys." As a pilot, you are absolutely right! My secret is revealed! Have you been spying on me?
We are very very very very fond of them.
The ground crew must not be forgotten and it is good you remembered and dedicated time to their actions. It is they who really own the aircraft and care for them. We just try not to break them.
Great to see and hear how much you both are having fun making this episode. It was a joy to watch and listen!
Amen
A truism if there ever was one. We are definitely fond of our toys - in my case, motorcycles but would love to have one of those badass plane though..
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
The main series is almost over but Spies and Ties is just getting going. Another 50 years of episodes to come!
Plenty of espionage still to cover!
Please tell us that spies and ties will continue and cover the end of WWII up until the Korean War! I will suffer withdrawal without these two!
I second this. Altough Stalin didn't have to do much spying to get his hands on the Rolls latest engine 🙂
Yup. Everyone is just warming up!
We won't be stopping Spies and ties anytime soon!
these two are a gem
Thanks for the comment!
Anna und Mutti Astrid are in a jolly mood!
I think it's because they had a mother daughter outing at the spa with the Manicure Supreme...
12:04 "Alright, Hans, do you think THIS gun is big enough?"
Reminds me of the soviet attempts to put big guns on tiny planes.
Bigger Kanone you say?
The A-10 Thunderbolt II says:
"Isn't that cute."
@@kenle2 Its just that when bore size is measured that was a 50 mm gun, while the Warthog "only' has a 30mm. It has 6 of them and they shoot depleted uranium but we won't mention that 🤣🤣
@@kenle2 the hs 129 B3 laughs at the thunderbolt, then the P.108A serie 2 laughs even louder
Reminds me of a Pacific war anecdote about the Nampbu pistol of all things. The American advance was so swift, that they captured and repair an airfield overnight. A Japanese pilot, likely of a scout plane, lands on it likely thinking the airstrip was still in Imperial hands. Cue his surprise when a team of armed flight mechanics and MPs walk up to him.
This being a Pacific war story, the pilot doesn't get the hint and reaches for his nambu pistol.
These two are always fantastic, love the fact they're on the cusp of breaking character and laughing lmao
Great to see them having fun, thanks for watching!
If you’re doing a character you should probably try to stay in character. The SNL-effect of always humorously breaking character is not a good thing
When it comes to British and American relations, Sun Tzu's admonition is turned on its tail. Keep your enemies close and your friends even closer.
We are the same people
@@mgway4661 Everyone is the same people
@@emmano6340 I don't care if everyone is the same; I just wish everyone was sane.
Richard Mort, who was a courier for Patton's army told me that toward the end of the war he and his buddies saw an ME-262 and sat in the cockpit and fired off the guns. They had no idea how to fly the thing so they blasted away until they got bored. The next day there were signs around the airplane warning of mines. He laughed while telling this. They knew there were no mines but they stayed away anyways.
Armin Faber's story reminds me of the story when a Soviet pilot, Captain Fyodor Zinoviev, landed a MiG-21 in a French airbase in Berlin. He and his squadron were flying the new MiG-21PFM variant from the Soviet Union to the Cottbus airbase in East Germany, southeast of Berlin. They got a bit disoriented in their flight, eventually found Tegel airbase, which is towards the north end of West Berlin. He missed a few landmarks that were different (like a gigantic city immediately to the south and east of the airfield), tried to radio for permission to land, then decided the base's radio had malfunctioned, told his squadron to stay in the air, and landed to check things out. Upon landing, he promptly realized the people running toward him had the wrong uniforms on, the planes were marked with French and American markings, all the vehicles looked different, etc...and while he was taking this in he also noticed the runway had been blocked with fire trucks to stop him from leaving.
But unlike Faber, he was flying the latest generation of the MiG21, which featured a couple of modifications that made for particularly impressive takeoff performance (ironically possibly the only thing onboard aside from the exact specifics of the radar system used in modern Soviet planes that would actually impress NATO engineers). So he gunned it down one of the taxiways (which, while flat, are shorter and narrower than runways), actually managed to take off, giving the French folks hoping to take him and his plane into custody quite a surprise. Whereupon he joined his comrades, figured out the big city was Berlin, and then successfully made his way to Cottbus. Apparently his commander told him he was an idiot for landing at a NATO airbase and a hero for managing to take off from it again.
(My source on this is a Ukrainian channel called Paper Skies. Since that video ("When a Soviet MiG-21 accidentally landed on a NATO airfield") is a Nebula exclusive, I'll instead point you towards "The Hilarious Story of How a Soviet Bomber Got Lost" which involves a bomber taking off on a routine exercise, promptly flying the exact opposite direction he was supposed to, dropping practice bombs on what was likely a group of extremely surprised fishermen, then turned back and tried to land in Iran instead of Belarus. It's a great story!
Such an informative and fun video with mother and daughter totally enjoying themselves! Bravo! This is why I am proud to serve in the Time Ghost Army!
Thanks for being a member of the Timeghost Army!
Bitte macht diese Sendungen Spies and Ties doch öfter.
i think they need larger spectacles
Edna. Mode.
@@mipa8581 Dame Edna, please!
another excellent episode of Spies n Ties...when/if this war ends I'm going to watch the whole series again and soak it all in. Appreciate you both, thanks!!
Thanks for the lovely comment!
I could watch and listen to Ana for hours.
I had a great uncle who was an engineer for Douglas during WW2. When the U.S. captured an BF109 fighter in North Africa. He got to go to North Africa and study the captured BF109.
He also was an engineer on the A-26 Invader.
I love this series so, so much. these two are wonderful presenters
My great uncle was shot down and killed off the coast of Italy on August 11, 1943 by an Axis pilot, supposedly German Lt. Col. Angelo Tondi, flying a captured Lockheed P-38 Lightning.
That's a German with a very evident Italian name...
He was indeed italian, the chief test pilot of the Reggia Aeronautica. And he did really attacked a B-17 formation with a captured P-38
Tondi was an Italian Air Force test pilot who experimented with a captured P38. There is some disputed evidence he shot down one or two B-17s before his P-38 became unflyable due to the poor quality of Italian avgas. In his book "Flying Forts" Martin Caidin wrote a highly fictional account of this story.
@@Col_K I said German because the information from the 301st Bomb Group on their website said "German". Certainly my first reaction when I looked the name back up was to think that it was a very stereotypically Italian name.
Thank you for sharing.
@@Col_K Fictional is being kind.
I don't know what they had before recording to calm their nerves, but i think I want some. And it was a very interesting episode, too.
Excellent work Ana, Astrid, & team.
I love watching this series from Anna and Astrid.
😊I adore seeing you two together! ❤ More please!!🥰
Check out " Messerspit the frankenstein fighter " , Its the story of pilot Bernard Scheidhauser of 131 Spitfire squadron he flew over France in his Spitfire Designated EM830 , After his sortie over France he made his way back to Britain , but became confused and landed in occupied Jersey . His Spitfire was taken by the Luftwaffe and had its Merlin engine removed and replaced with a Daimler Benz DB 605a engine , and then they tested the aircraft which then surpassed both the Messersmit109 and the Spitfire in all aspects of speed , height , and handling .
They replaced the Carburettor, which is probably the main improvement.
Australia didn't need to "capture" its Dornier Do24 Flying boats; it obtained them from the Dutch. How the Netherlands got them in the first place is not clear as Germany forbade their export. They are believed to be the only warplanes that saw regular (as opposed to experimental or assessment) service on both sides in WW2. The Luftwaffe's 260-odd planes well outnumbered Australia's six!
After the War they were scrapped apart from one fuselage which still exists in Victoria near the Murray River.
What a team
1:56 - kind of him to land close (50 miles) to a major German POW camp (Bridgend). Probably cheapest to interrogate him there 😹
A true gentleman :D
Astrid and Anna, a refreshing professional presentation. this makes your channel all the more interesting
What a great video 🙂
I listened very carefully just in case they should say things only once...
I met Eric Brown several years ago and he signed his book for me .
More of this please ;-)
My paternal great-uncle was in the 54th Air Disarmament Squadron. He was Staff Sgt. Thomas A. Hall, who joined the military in February of 1942, and died still in service around Metz, France, on 9 July 1945 as the result of an unfortunate automobile accident. He was later interred in the US Military cemetery in St. Avold - Metz, at the age of 38. In July 1947, the family (Thomas' brother, my paternal grandfather and great aunt) requested that the War Department disinter him from his plot and send his remains to the USA, so that he may be re-buried in the family plot. This, of course, was done in accordance to their wishes. He was survived by a widow (Blanche) and a daughter, whom he ever met.
Anna, Astrid, and Spartacus, I thank you for this episode. In the name of my family, I give you great thanks.
-Phil Hall
Astrid hope your wrist gets better. You both did a great job.
A very informative and extremely enjoyable episode. You two are much fun! Keep it up.
I hope that spies and ties keeps going on the Korean War channel too. It’s my favourite series of your channel 🙏
There will be occasional appearances from everyone on the Korean War channel.
The Luftwaffe test pilot lamenting the situation for their unit is understandable. The manpower situation was quite dire. It was well known that when the war was in its late stages, the German government had made a lot of Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe personnel become infantry. Old men or those with conditions that would have disqualified someone from being conscripted earlier in the war? Not anymore. Bodies were needed and so the Volkssturm were formed. This kind of stuff was happening in 1944.
I love how the 190 looks in RAF colors
You two sre amazingly entertaining and informative at the same time. Thank you!!!!
Thank you for the comment!
Great video!
Interesting episode!!! While playing the Play Station II video game, "Secret Weapons Over Normandy", one of the missions was to land in occupied France early in the war - during Dunkirk - and capture an FW-190 and fly it back to England. Later in the game you are supposed to fly in a bombing mission over Germany in a B-17, bail out and land. After landing, then search and capture the vaunted ME-262, which will become quite handy with the remainder of the game because it is basically the only aircraft that can combat all those crazy German jets that come at you with a vengeance!!!
The Akutan Zero, also known as Koga's Zero (古賀のゼロ) and the Aleutian Zero, was a type 0 model 21 Mitsubishi A6M Zero Japanese fighter aircraft piloted by Petty Officer Tadayoshi Koga, that crash-landed on Akutan Island, Alaska Territory
Which is another reason why the Japanese attack on the Aleutians contributed to the defeat of Japan.
@@davidkinsey8657*quickly glances at US Wildcat combat records at the Coral Sea, Midway and the Solomons*, Yeah I’m not to sure about that. By the time of the Solomon Islands campaign F4F Wildcats were trading more than evenly with Japanese Zero fighters.
What’s more important about the Akutan Zero is that it showed the US that they were properly countering the strengths of the Zero fighter and that it wasn’t some other factor.
This great episode to watch. I knew a little about captured aircraft.
Accidental landings by Germans during Battle of Britain.
Captured Hurricanes and Spitfires during Fall of France.
A Higher Calling, AA gunners didn't shoot down Charlie Brown's B17 cause it was being escorted Stigler's 109.
They knew of the KG 200 and didn't want to cause a friendly fire incident.
Great episode but one small nitpick. @9:00 The P-38 is the Lightening and the P-51 is the Mustang.
There is a comma missing in that listing, and a bit of inconsistency in our nomenclature choices.. should have been P38s, P51s… or Lightings, Mustangs… as you’re see, despite rumors otherwise, we’re human after all 🤷🏼
@@spartacus-olsson That's not what Indy is reported to have said according to an Anonymous Source, at the local tavern...Also reported, rather Impressively, Indy did not make such a claim until after his 5th Scotch...ps.While Indy appears to be a Scotch man... Sparty in contrast could definitely pull off the covert agent type role, a James Bond like character, suave & debonair Martini-loving chap...Indy, while possible seems may be more obvious in such a role... sorta like a Bull in a China shop...
On a serious note, I would assume all of the work has been completed for the World War Two Channel and episodes. I would also assume Amazon will secure streaming rights to the compilation as they did the first few years... I do hope there are residuals or perhaps a one time fee they provide you guys...however things are set corporately...Regardless, while many of us speculate and are curious what paths each of you travel moving forward nor is it any of our business to be blunt....even so, I've really enjoyed, appreciated and perhaps most importantly learned so much each episode that I was shocked not having known prior. In short, Thank you for what had to be a grind and wishing each of you happiness & peace moving forward... Take Care
@@spartacus-olsson No reason to be sorry. You guys create amazing stuff. This is the only channel where I would even mention this, as I know you actually care aboudt detailles.
Just subb´ed on the korean war channel, so I now know what to whatch the next four years.
They do these intentional errors just to check you’re paying attention. Congratulations you passed the test.
@@sam_uelsonyep more comments is more engagement.
Pilots may fly the planes, but mechanics still “own” them.
Spies & Ties is the best! Well done ladies!
Good stuff like always! Spies and ties needs to continue into the cold war!
Another great spies & ties episode!
11:49 Harold Watson looks sooo like George Clooney :o
thank you so much!!! true edutainment!!!
Thanks TG
The British and the United States were growling over every type of German aircraft!
Small side note: the Germans get there hands on a P-51 mustang! It was made from at least 3 or 4 parts of several plans. But they put a engine from a 109 in it and it still out preforms the 109 in manuvers!
Still love you ladies doing Spies and Ties :
Ya know…
As much as I love the info and the history from these vids?
It is sometimes very difficult to get past the absolute beauty of these 2 Ladies.
I mean…
Distraction much?
😆
Great Vid!
Love it!
Thanks!
Excellent video, Anna and Astrid! As usual. 👍❤👍❤👍❤👍❤
Thank you.
Love the show, they are charming together with that little teasing in between history. You feel they enjoy doing their job🙂
Unfortunately, many of the German planes taken to Wright Field eventually were just buried after testing. In the '90s there was a movement to try to uncover them for historical research. Haven't heard an update since then.
Nice, thank YOU!
And thank you for watching!
Are you two and Sparty planning any involvement with the new Korean War channel?
Occasional appearances will happen…
@@spartacus-olsson I am not sure how many Spy- Stories will appear in Korea, but more then enought Material for War against Humanity. A Sad Fact, but at least it gives us plenty of Videos with you to enjoy =)
I never thought Wright field would ever get a shoutout in this series now known as Wright Pratt AFB!
Would've loved to have seen the look on the faces of the British boffins when they saw that intact F-W 190.
Thanks lady , wonderful
The P38 was called The Lightning. The P51 was The Mustang. Small point but accuracy in historical reporting...
I wonder if Armin Faber is related to Emil "knowledge is good" Faber, founder of Faber college! 😉
Bravo Darlings!
Many of the airplanes captured by the USA became part of the USAF Physical archive, which eventually became the Museum of the USAF Wright field. I spent a lot of time at the museum which helped in my design work at Boeing in the Military division.
Very enjoyable and informative episode. If you want some further reading on the scientific war of threat analysis and counter measures would recommend getting a copy of 'Most Secret War' by R V Jones who led the British scientific teams identifying unknown weapons and what actions could be deployed to defend against them.
Nice to see the ladies having fun. :-)
It's always nice to see Astrid Deinhard and Anna Deinhard. I, wish, we had gotten more "Spies & Ties" content, in the past year. Then again, I am over 50 vids behind. World War Two picked up their content, from the usual two vids per week, as in years past. Can't keep up with working so much. "See You Next Time, Darlings."
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I love the ties!
Always fascinated by this aspect... knew someone who was part of Watson's Whizzers, who flew captured German aircraft
Leak of laughing gas at Timeghost HQ?
"What separates men from boys is just the size of their toys!", Right?!? ;D
Great episodes. Duxford still has lots of German WW2 planes and is a great place to do flight spotting/riding or flight training 🙂 I love Duxfort/Cambridge!
I know the episode is less than 18mins but tell us how long did it take to make really because it looked like you two had a lot of fun with this and will you be doing a bloopers video
I always look forward to a new Spies and Ties episode, I wish that the kitty would make a reappearance
My fave sub-series is back! 🎉
An excellent presentation Ladies thank you
You are very welcome and thank YOU!
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Bravo Dears. 😄👏👏👏
Tsentralny Aerodynamichesky Gosudarsvtenny Institut (Central Aerodynamic State Institute, TsAGI) was carefully studying all obtained and captured Luftwaffe aircrafts, if possible. It was even a later popular mistake, when they studied Bf 109 F-4 with damaged compressor in 1941, so they issued an instruction that Bf 109 F-4 is weak at high altitudes... Which costed many lives of USSR pilots.
Ouch, that's a sad mistake. Did they finally realize ?
@@lc1138 May be a year or sooner...
Anyway, the tactic situation on the soil rendered high-altitude aeroplanes mostly useless. And that was in turn the problem for Luftwaffe. They got to oppose high-alt aviation of UK+US, and low-to-medium-alt aviation of SU. Which is a task for DE engineers, and an additional overload for DE industry.
i think there should be a new channel for spies and ties like Cold War or something. it’s not like anything after August could still be considered “world war two”
We are going to be revisiting things we couldn't go deeper into at the time and be doing a series on the rise of Hitler.
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Ladies, you're comic gold!!! Great episode, thank you!!
Understatement.
There was a Messerschmidt/Spitfire hybrid that flew after WW2, I believe in the middle east. Quite popular and effective I believe
You two are adorable together! Great video on "foreign acquisition".
jolly good!
carry on!
(having fun)
I like the dynamic between the Dinehart sisters. I live 30 minutes from Wright, Patterson Air Force Base, and 10 minutes walking distance from a former defense complex locally known as The Mound. It’s interesting. He’ll learn more about local history. That was a part of of world history.
Anna is actually Astrid's daughter.
Astrid sporting Habsburg colors!
Thank you lovely ladies for this video
Ah yes the unicorn called the Messerspit
Great content. Just an observation in this video the shadow on the faces behind the glasses are distracting
This is great stuff. Who says learning can't be fun😅
They all missed the Bugatti fighter hidden in France...
Very much looking forward to the episode on Operation Paperclip, and hoping you cover its mistakes as well as its successes. (Taking in scientists and engineers is common knowledge, but I've also heard they took in a bunch of intelligence agents who claimed to have useful information on the Soviets, but turned out to have virtually nothing and just got to walk out on being enthusiastic Nazis without facing justice.)
I'd also love to see, when the time comes, a breakdown of the comparable but much less successful program applied in Japan at the end of the Pacific theatre. Definitely a lot of mistakes made during that affair.
I remember reading in my church's little newspaper many years ago an interview with an Australian pilot who had flown for the RAAF during WW2. One of his assignments was to take some sort of diplomat to Russia for a conference in his de Haviland Mosquito. He said he was forced to leave the airfield over night by the Russians and was positive they had rolled his Mosquito into a nearby hanger and taken it apart and pieced it back together in the interval. I don't think there were any aircraft the Russians had that the Western Allies were much interested in but RAF and USAAF aircraft were apparently of intense interest to the Soviets. Some allies!
Is there any literature about those squadrons and the use and study of enemy aircraft in ww2?
Imagine breaking the news of a German plane just landing in Wales to ol Dolfy. I imagine there was quite a lot of German swearing.
I live only 15 miles from Wright field (now Wright-Patterson AFB)!
HMS Reaper (D82) was a Bogue-class escort carrier of the United States Navy, leased to the Royal Navy during World War 2
Great name
"You can only have my toy if I can come with it!
Just a correction: P-38 Lightnings and P-51 Mustangs.
There’s a comma there, but also we should have been consistent in the nomenclature… either “…P-38s, P51s…” or “…Lightnings, Mustangs…” but for some reason we made the least logical choice.