It’s basically how many times a ball can go through the pitching machine. Just playing catch, a baseball would last probably 50,000+ throws and catches
agreed, the pitching machine is doing all the damage. Some of the coloration change may be the dye from the leather of the gloves, but all of the damage is from the pitching machine IMO
Probably a million times.. a ball going through a pitching machine easily wears it out more than 100 throws. When a ball it thrown the damage would be hitting the glove.. with the pitching machine.. it’s torn up when the wheels grab it.
If you just throw a ball back and forth like a game of catch between regular humans, 1 baseball should last for your entire baseball throwing life. I have played catch with 50, 60, and 70 year old baseballs. They are quite durable. Hitting them with bats is what really kills them. Throwing and catching them doesn't cause much damage.
So I have this baseball I've been carrying, it was ran over by a bus but the seams and everything are in tact, I would love to send it in for u guys to mess around with, it's a little wobbled and messed up but seams like fun
When you had the broken baseball and were making it fly in weird ways it reminded me of something. When I go golf I like to find cracked golf balls and tee off with them cause they take the weirdest flight paths. It's so entertaining to see a ball curve four different directions in one drive.
Hire “interns” and have them repeat the 12000 throws manually. Plus I think the catch speed would be 20 miles per hour slower. Zero damage at 12k would be my guess
Playing catch is a lot different than feeding a ball thru a machine. Those tires eat balls up. I bet a baseball would last over a million throws in a normal game of catch
I had a ball that I literally used for years because it had a bunch of cuts and dips in it that made it move crazy like that one. If you threw it righ over the top it would have some insane movement. Sadly the cover came off and it had to be retired
same apprently happens to bownlign balls and the handicap bowling ball ramp from things ive done in life, peaople wouldent care if battowed the bowlingball they perswonaly owned, but would be like woa woa only one or two rolls on the bowling ball ramp, becuase it "Destoys the ball".
I like the video and I don't mean to nitpick but as others have said, the pitching machine has the most impact on the condition of the ball by a long shot. I think it would not only make for a better video but also be more comfortable for you guys producing it, had you done a small number of throws everyday(100 or less) over the span of years. It could also be a cool way to record moments of your life over the span of a few years or however long it takes. If you're up for it, I'm sure your audience would be interested.
Great video. It was both entertaining and really informative. Ironically, my son and I were just talking today about how long a baseball night last since we segregate our warm up/catching balls from our batting practice balls. I now have an idea that our catching balls will out live me. 😅 Batting balls may be a different story.
I feel like this showed the ware n tare of a ball through a pitching machine more than from it being caught. A ball you're playing catch with at 70mph is not going to have that same ware as a ball thru a machine 500 times. I definitely don't blame you for using the machines, tho. 10k throws in a 4 hour span is definitely not good for the Ole arm. It was cool to see what it did to the gloves and how they were broken in as the experiment continued. Nice vid! Never expect anything less from the guys at momentum!! Always have entertaining vids, and you don't have to ride on the back of Trevor and Sim's trash talk back n forth. In all honesty, a channel with just those two doing random competitions would be hilarious to watch. Like just walking down the street and challenging who can get someone to honk first or do mini golf, go karts, arcade games, etc. You name it, and their competitiveness will always make for great content. I'd watch every video put out of theirs if they made it. Keep on killin it, guys! And Kevin too lol!!!!
The pitching machine is tearing the balls up more than the gloves. You should have named the video What do baseballs look like after 1000s of times through a pitching machine.
16:40 I'm thinking that the cover on the ball flipping around is causing a distraction for your eyes, making it harder to catch. The ball isn't moving that much compared to some sliders, etc.
be neat to see if you can get more movement in pitches with a wore out ball like that . like differences in pitches with different levels of worn out balls
I have a baseball that I've used for catch for probably 18 years now? Granted this ball is only used for catch, ranging from 30 - 90 mph depending on who I am playing catch with. When I was playing competitively as a pitcher we switched balls every few innings just cause of the damage a bat would do. That said, I actually preferred the worked in balls as a pitcher because new balls could be tough on the fingers with how pronounced the seams were.
As a kid who abused baseballs by throwing them against a cement wall with a white square painted on it I had an opposite result. The leather would start getting torn and scuffed as well as the seams. Would end up being like loose cowhide
I'm supposed to believe you can ware out a baseball playing catch in 17 hours? LOL Someone didn't grow up a poor baseball player. We would spend endless hours as a kid playing with one ball and not just playing catch. And yes we would ware them out eventually but it wasn't from playing catch, it was from hitting them or having them land hard on gravel. I bet if you only played catch with one, you couldn't ware it out in year, no matter how hard you tried. As it's been pointed out, this was clearly damage from the machine.
This makes absolutely no sense. Pitching machines are notoriously hard on baseballs. Playing catch is not. Zero. Not even a little hard on baseballs. You would die of old age before a ball fell apart from "playing catch". Also who plays catch at 70mph..... for hours and days?
Playing regular pass, the ball would probably last well over 10-20 years and maybe over millions of repetitions. I have BP balls from my kids that are over 10 years old. This test, only determines how many repetitions that a pitching machine takes to destroy a ball.
Unrealistic. The pitching machine causes friction while “shooting” it out, thus breaking down the exterior of the ball. Through the ball causes no friction.
1 how would this compare to someone actually throwing the ball when you use a machine it will go threw its own process faster then actually throwing the ball, for example you don't have a grip on the ball when you throw it compared to the machine. This baseball would not fall apart if 2 people actually threw the ball normally 12,000 times
i never played baseball, idk how i got here, but i can't help but feel like 95% of the damage and the black color is being caused by the machine instead from actually catching it? might be a totally wrong assumption, i have no reference, but it really feels like the machine is doing most of it
It’s basically how many times a ball can go through the pitching machine. Just playing catch, a baseball would last probably 50,000+ throws and catches
Yeah you just can’t test that because arms can’t handle that
agreed, the pitching machine is doing all the damage. Some of the coloration change may be the dye from the leather of the gloves, but all of the damage is from the pitching machine IMO
If it was broken up over a couple videos with a few players it would be possible to get a better idea of how a ball changes.
Agreed. I can think of balls that have been through BP and Fielding drills for YEARS and are still going strong.
Probably a million times.. a ball going through a pitching machine easily wears it out more than 100 throws. When a ball it thrown the damage would be hitting the glove.. with the pitching machine.. it’s torn up when the wheels grab it.
8:29 Super Mario Baseball
If you just throw a ball back and forth like a game of catch between regular humans, 1 baseball should last for your entire baseball throwing life. I have played catch with 50, 60, and 70 year old baseballs. They are quite durable. Hitting them with bats is what really kills them. Throwing and catching them doesn't cause much damage.
Hi guys your the best. Unban Trevor
Trevor, I'd be happy to see you throw a black baseball over the fence at Kauffman for the Royals
The friction of the machine played a huge factor in this
Nokona for the Win! Nice work guys!
The Nocona glove Trevor is using is produced in Nocona, Texas! It’s a very small town that makes one of the best gloves!
I mean, I'm noticing already from the get-go that that Google search seemed to insinuate that the damage was from the bat, not the catching.
Bauer should be a vlogger
the ppitching machine did most of the damage
should've use 1st baseman glove, easier to break in thank catcher, but also mostly meant for catching
The damage is mainly the machine. I have baseballs I've hand thrown 10 years
Congrats on 4 million views
Trevor Bauer:
“Its starting to umm…. fray.”
😅😂❤😊
would love to see what kind of movement you would get pitching with a ball after every 50 times through the machine.
Turns out a pitching machine does damage to balls. The more you know.
I don’t what was a worse. The idea of seeing how long a baseball lasts or me watching this 17 minute video without skipping 😂😂😂
Get 10 or more people together and actually throw the ball. I’m sure the machine is doing most of the damage and wear.
So I have this baseball I've been carrying, it was ran over by a bus but the seams and everything are in tact, I would love to send it in for u guys to mess around with, it's a little wobbled and messed up but seams like fun
I loved the vid. Thank you for all the time spent
@Willys Gameing ok? but even then, they wasted a lot of their time for this entertainment
I just want to congrats the editor.....
Get Eric to try to hit that ball
The wear on the ball is probably from the pitching machines. I feel like you could throw a ball almost forever without the cover coming off
Right but arms can’t handle that test
@BobbyBarraza Science, nature, and biology all conducted by trained professionals in the field who have been practicing it for decades.
@@hichkakdeemo5413 Didn't he mention it in one of the first checks of the ball? That the wear seemed to be more from the machine?
@@hichkakdeemo5413 no, he said the seams interact with the air differently because they are raised
@@gh0st555 its possible it will just take a very very long time
If you threw a baseball to Eric 12,000 times he'd probably drop it 12,000 times
Funny
He will drop it 24,000 times
Only drop it 12000 times?
He would probably drop a lot more than 12,000! 😂 Funny though! ⚾️
𝔽𝕒𝕩𝕤😂
I must say, that speed on the ball was much faster than a casual game of catch.
@Velez Kids Maybe a casual game of catch for professionals? I'd agree with you though
Nah that’s like highschool catch from a medium distance
A normal game of friendly catches is probs 40 mph
Nah, a normal game for most adults would be 50 to 60. For pros 60 to 70.
40 is like what a 9 year old could throw.@@MichaelM63917
Damn you must suck ahh😂😂
If you throw a ball (and don’t drop it) I’d think it would last 75,000 plus throws. It’s the machine ruining it lol
same as a bowling ball ramp and a professinal bowling ball.
Quick moment of silence for all of Kevin’s hard work on this video 😂
Fr rip
The fact they went through 12,000 catches and shut it down as soon as it got interesting was the biggest blue balls ever 😂
Now you guys should have Eric hit it 12 thousand times 😂
To be fair he can barely hit it once😂
That's like 48,000 pitches
@@bubbleheadft and only like 200 homers
@@GuyrillaBraun 1/420 abs per homerun
Seams like a fun idea. (sorry)
Haven’t gotten very far into this experiment. But it seems like the ball is being affected more so by the pitching machine than by catching it
i was thinking the same thing
When you had the broken baseball and were making it fly in weird ways it reminded me of something. When I go golf I like to find cracked golf balls and tee off with them cause they take the weirdest flight paths. It's so entertaining to see a ball curve four different directions in one drive.
Thats not catches doing all the damage the machines done alot of the ware on the ball actually throw amd catch it to get the true number REDO IT lol
I need Trevor back in the mlb
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@@Jharv39if you didnt know he was one of the best pitchers in the mlb but then he had an incident
@@Maddyhob 1 good season btw
Through a catching machine -12k
Just playing catch - 100+ years
Hire “interns” and have them repeat the 12000 throws manually.
Plus I think the catch speed would be 20 miles per hour slower. Zero damage at 12k would be my guess
8:29 nice job on Kevin for syncing this to Super Mario Bros
Playing catch is a lot different than feeding a ball thru a machine. Those tires eat balls up. I bet a baseball would last over a million throws in a normal game of catch
I had a ball that I literally used for years because it had a bunch of cuts and dips in it that made it move crazy like that one. If you threw it righ over the top it would have some insane movement. Sadly the cover came off and it had to be retired
Poor Kevin
😂😂😂 I’m alive!
Ball worn out more by the pitching machine
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The bad news: The wear on the baseball was from the wheels on the picthing machine
The good news: You inveted new training for catchers
I'm pretty sure someone uses this training exercise.
What new training? They are literally doing what catchers already do. Catching the ball
same apprently happens to bownlign balls and the handicap bowling ball ramp from things ive done in life, peaople wouldent care if battowed the bowlingball they perswonaly owned, but would be like woa woa only one or two rolls on the bowling ball ramp, becuase it "Destoys the ball".
That one guy who uses the same ball for years.
Now that you've done how many throws, you should do how many hits it takes to break a baseball
If you agree
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I like the video and I don't mean to nitpick but as others have said, the pitching machine has the most impact on the condition of the ball by a long shot. I think it would not only make for a better video but also be more comfortable for you guys producing it, had you done a small number of throws everyday(100 or less) over the span of years. It could also be a cool way to record moments of your life over the span of a few years or however long it takes. If you're up for it, I'm sure your audience would be interested.
as a guy who play baseball in a country where it's not even a sport, we have balls that have been used for years.
comments saying its the machine runing it., makes snese, its two wheels, not a moving cyborg hand.
8:30 that Mario song though 🤣
Great video. It was both entertaining and really informative.
Ironically, my son and I were just talking today about how long a baseball night last since we segregate our warm up/catching balls from our batting practice balls.
I now have an idea that our catching balls will out live me. 😅
Batting balls may be a different story.
If this video doesn’t show how dedicated they are I don’t know what will that’s worth a like definitely worth I like
This is what happens when athletes perform science
Love you Kevin
Appreciate the love and support!
Way to train the basics boys, keep it up and you might make it to the big leagues one day
He plays for the dodgers 😂
@@blicks1321 Its a joke dude.... And no he actually doesn't play for the dodgers🤣
@@Fly-The-W yeah lol, might want to check what Trevor has been up to
"How many throws left? 800, 900? Counting is a pain, let's say 1000!"
Yes! There it is!
9:55 trevor all of a sudden concerned about things being safe
hi you are the best have a great day by
This was a piss poor test. The ball is going to wear extremely faster through a pitching machine than it would from standard catch or regular use
I'm going to be the 365th person to say that the wear obviously came from the pitching machines, not the catching 😅
IDK how you guys made this video interesting, but you pulled it off! Good job Kev!
Thank you! 🥲 Definitely couldn’t have done it without Tosh and Trevor’s help!
😂😂that’s a lot of testing love the commitment though you guys are the real hero’s appreciate y’all ❤😂😮
This is only the machine. The smell the color the stress its all the machine. This is just how many times can a ball go through the machine.
I can think of balls that have been through BP and fielding drills for YEARS and are still going strong.
I feel like this showed the ware n tare of a ball through a pitching machine more than from it being caught. A ball you're playing catch with at 70mph is not going to have that same ware as a ball thru a machine 500 times.
I definitely don't blame you for using the machines, tho. 10k throws in a 4 hour span is definitely not good for the Ole arm. It was cool to see what it did to the gloves and how they were broken in as the experiment continued. Nice vid! Never expect anything less from the guys at momentum!! Always have entertaining vids, and you don't have to ride on the back of Trevor and Sim's trash talk back n forth.
In all honesty, a channel with just those two doing random competitions would be hilarious to watch. Like just walking down the street and challenging who can get someone to honk first or do mini golf, go karts, arcade games, etc. You name it, and their competitiveness will always make for great content. I'd watch every video put out of theirs if they made it. Keep on killin it, guys! And Kevin too lol!!!!
Kevin you the man. I would’ve died editing this
You should do how many hits it takes to break a baseball
The pitching machine is tearing the balls up more than the gloves. You should have named the video What do baseballs look like after 1000s of times through a pitching machine.
The launcher is a lot harder on the ball than throwing by hand.
My dad and I used the same baseball for catch for 10 years.....
This all happens wene I leave my one of my new Ball in my yard after one Day
Catchers glove are a pain to break in but it works a lot
Credit to the pitching machines 🫡
Dodgeball is one of my favorites
Who is throwing a baseball 70 miles per hour consistently for a “nice game of catch”
I did this, and it took me 100,768 throws and 4 months
It’s cool to see that trev has a nakona glove thats all i use lmao (most people don’t know the company)
16:40 I'm thinking that the cover on the ball flipping around is causing a distraction for your eyes, making it harder to catch. The ball isn't moving that much compared to some sliders, etc.
I feel sorry for Kevin
Poor Kevin
Lolz. Thanks. I survived
be neat to see if you can get more movement in pitches with a wore out ball like that . like differences in pitches with different levels of worn out balls
Go to just about any baseball academy and you'll see buckets of baseballs in various stages of wear similar to what you had there.
See how many times Eric can hit a 69Mph ball before Eric breaks.
Friction of the machines definitely effected the ball.
Yeah, that's a huge variable in this kinda experiment.
I would think more damage is caused from the machine than anything else.
congrats on 4 million views
I have a baseball that I've used for catch for probably 18 years now? Granted this ball is only used for catch, ranging from 30 - 90 mph depending on who I am playing catch with. When I was playing competitively as a pitcher we switched balls every few innings just cause of the damage a bat would do. That said, I actually preferred the worked in balls as a pitcher because new balls could be tough on the fingers with how pronounced the seams were.
As a kid who abused baseballs by throwing them against a cement wall with a white square painted on it I had an opposite result. The leather would start getting torn and scuffed as well as the seams. Would end up being like loose cowhide
Same lol had no friends so it was the only way to practice grounders and throwing
I'm supposed to believe you can ware out a baseball playing catch in 17 hours? LOL Someone didn't grow up a poor baseball player. We would spend endless hours as a kid playing with one ball and not just playing catch. And yes we would ware them out eventually but it wasn't from playing catch, it was from hitting them or having them land hard on gravel. I bet if you only played catch with one, you couldn't ware it out in year, no matter how hard you tried.
As it's been pointed out, this was clearly damage from the machine.
This makes absolutely no sense. Pitching machines are notoriously hard on baseballs. Playing catch is not. Zero. Not even a little hard on baseballs. You would die of old age before a ball fell apart from "playing catch". Also who plays catch at 70mph..... for hours and days?
Playing regular pass, the ball would probably last well over 10-20 years and maybe over millions of repetitions. I have BP balls from my kids that are over 10 years old. This test, only determines how many repetitions that a pitching machine takes to destroy a ball.
Ah yes, you can describe baseball pitches like dodgeball. Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, and Dodge. Thanks Patches O'houlihan.
I feel like most of the damage to the ball is from the machines not the catching
I know for certain that I've thrown a single baseball tens of thousands of times at around 30-40 MPH with next to know degradation.
Love the grind
Unrealistic. The pitching machine causes friction while “shooting” it out, thus breaking down the exterior of the ball. Through the ball causes no friction.
1 how would this compare to someone actually throwing the ball when you use a machine it will go threw its own process faster then actually throwing the ball, for example you don't have a grip on the ball when you throw it compared to the machine. This baseball would not fall apart if 2 people actually threw the ball normally 12,000 times
I was at my summer camp and my friend found a baseball with skin and I just kept it
i never played baseball, idk how i got here, but i can't help but feel like 95% of the damage and the black color is being caused by the machine instead from actually catching it? might be a totally wrong assumption, i have no reference, but it really feels like the machine is doing most of it
When you try to brake it but when I have a ball with my friend we end up braking a ball I’m 13 with a 14 u ball
Is finger out better than 2 in the pinky? I've always done 2 in the pinky, but it seems like finger out is more common. Idk...
I’ve had a ball from high school ball for over a decade with well over 12,000 throws and it’s looking pretty solid still.