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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- In this video I play the find your herd game with my new 3 year-old Swagger.
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Thanks, I'll check it out. Today, I was mucking in the woods and heard the thunder of hooves. It was my 7 yr old arabian mare coming at me. She stopped next to the muck bucket
..and left me some fresh apples. She's so awesome. Next trick...breaking her. 🤣
What do ye think? ,,,,,,,,Are you good enough to enter heaven? How many lies have you told before?
Ever stolen? Ever lusted? Ever hated anyone?!
.......... We have broken God's laws but;; Jesus has paid our fine!
@@clarkkent3730what’s that got to do with anything 😮😮😮😮😮
Isn’t it cool how “the join up” doesn’t require a lots of dust and lather? !!! Horse psychology is fascinating.
Agreed 👍
Fascinating. It took me a bit to understand why he would want to come to you when you're rushing at him, but then you explained that you're where the relief is. Seems so counterintuitive. Cool!
That is so interesting. And definitely has to be done correctly. Ha. The timing and angle is super crucial .
Absolutely!
Loving your channel and the way you work with horses, especially your Patreon page. I’m riding a horse who has a lot of liberty training and I don’t! Am learning how to communicate with him, so I stop confusing him. The horse is going ‘finally’! 😂
4:53 you confirmed something for me today. “Giving time to process” I think that timing is a place that I sometimes got stuck when first learning to do this.
The trouble was not knowing how soon to go tag a spot after you already just tagged a spot and the horse didn’t connect with you. I never really knew which was happening…if I was giving the horse time to process or just the opposite, accidentally giving the horse a reward/release for not being with me if i allowed them to stand a bit.
It was good to hear this words. Give them time to process. You aren’t making a mistake letting them stand, you are giving them time to think about what just happened.
Thanks!
I had the same thought ! 🤠
It actually does make sense. A stallion and lead mare does something similar to that when he/she wants the herd to move to a new area. The stallion or lead mare goes after the individual mares to get them moving, then will either drive all of them or lead them to where he/she wants them to go. The mares are not afraid and will follow, just like your horse is doing with you.
Yes, my little mare says to the bigger mare come on time to go, hustles her off a spot and says this way!
Fascinating. Many years ago, I had to do something similar with my very dominant youngster. Only that it was not a roundpen, but a 5000 square meter pasture, where he was during summertime with his herd (yes, he was the boss). Originally I had plans to do a little tour with some other riders. But he decided it was not the time. I had two options: to let him go and most likely having a even harder time catching him for my next riding attempt - or clear the situation. Running was not an option here though, so I just made him umcomfortable to stay in a spot and eat grass. I just walked to him and gave him the option to get his halter - or go away. Took me several hours. At first, he sprinted away. I kept walking. His escapes got slower, but I kept on it. In the end he was okay with me putting his halter on and taking him in. I did not ride him though (was too late for that), but took him for a little walk - no grazing though. After that, he never tried to escape from me again.
Yes, we've done this sort of thing instinctively. Maybe from when you were a kid and had a pony being hard to catch you'd just move it from a spot, wait for the instant it got comfortable and move it again until it reached that point when it said sod this for a game of soldiers and let you catch it. Not exactly join up but on those lines.
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Fascinating. It DOES seem counterintuitive.
WOW 😮 just WOW ❤ you are magic 😊😊😊
This game makes perfect sense to me! I have never owned a horse but when once playing with a cult who was about year old in a pasture, I never tried to walk up to a strange horse but I noticed when he gave me his 'eyes" he would come toward me if I turned away from him! I thought at the time how damned curious! There was a pump house on the property, and the two of us began to play hide and seek! I would run behind the pump house, he would follow, then when he caught up to me, I would turn to face him and he woul turn and skitter around the outside until he could not see me! then, I would stand with my back to give him space, calmness Then he would stop. If I did not pursue he would come till he could see me and look with all his attentiion to me. I got so he was following me around the pasture, and even coming up to me to nuzzle at me. I petted him then. but was very guarded. finnally, he was following me like a dog! I never intertacted with a horsse before, and it seemed quite natural to me. When his owner came and watched, his jaw hit the ground. He then told me, he could not get hands on him at all and was thinking he should get a horse man into "break" him.. I replied : Your horse ain't broken, he is just a horse!"
Watch horses behaving naturally. If the boss horse is taken away from a group, the other horses will be very upset and may run around, neighing and standing at the gate anxiously waiting its return. But if the most lowest ranked horse is removed, often the herd won't care so much. They respect the boss horse, even though when the boss horse returns it may chase, threaten or act "mean" towards them. Horses aren't humans, they don't want to be with the "nicest" horse
One of my two horses went away for a couple of weeks training. I was hoping for a wonderful reunion but the dominant little mare who had been left behind said where the hell have you been? Kicked her in disgust before they both got on with the job of eating!
I tried this with my horse a while ago when you showed this with one of your 2yo. And I was incredible for me to experience that it only took 2 times until my gelding followed me. I sometimes have some "discussions" on who is the leader and this is really a great and quick technique to re-confirm. Thanks very much for this great tip!
Do you think that maybe the horse learned to hook on from the "extensive riding program" it had previously undergone? Horses are good at searching for solutions, which is precisely what makes them trainable. Personally, I find it a very bad practice to put these youngsters through "extensive riding training program".
Absolutely fascinating! I am almost 80 and , oh, how I wish I had this teaching 65 years ago! What fun to watch. Thank you for letting us enjoy these abbreviated videos. If I had any horses, I would sign up for your Patreon channel!
Love this. My horse ownership is many years behind me, so now I love watching Ryan work..
Great video, makes sense to me!! Gorgeous horse : )
I wonder how Ryan is with his wife: " now she's gonna argue and I'm gonna turn my back to her and we're gonna see how she responds" lol
You got it wrong. His wife is arguing with him and turns her back.
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When you have a fall out with your partner you go through this pattern, my husband walks off, I give him a bit of time the approach him again until you both end up sitting in chairs able to listen and talk to each other like mature adults.
This behaviour of yours gives the horse the feeling you own the place and shows dominance. Hence he is searching for closeness to the new boss, because he can´t escape. I like your work! Thanks for the video!!
I agree but I prefer to think the horse is thinking this guy is someone to listen to and it's more about the horse submitting rather than the guy dominating. I believe there is a subtle but important difference. I don't want to dominate anyone but achieve cooperation through mutual submission. It's learning to listen to each other, not about telling one party what to do with no regard for the other.
Well.....that Was nothing short of amazing 😁😁
Very interesting.... going to try it with my yearling ........hes going to be a big boy...hes a sweetie, but as always i want a great foundation on him....this has peaked my curiosity!
Thank you Ryan Rose for such wonderful work getting good foundations on these equines...making them understanding partners in our relationships rather than worried participants😏😏🥰
Interesting really fun watching 🎉
Fascinating! Love your work. 🙂
Oh I've seen Warwick Schiller do something like this, the idea was when the horse was looking away he'd do something noisy or obnoxious till the horse looked at him and eventually the horse learned it's supposed to pay attention to the person or else weird concerning stuff is gonna happen
Wow, that was amazing! Very intelligent horse.
What a nice horse.....nice eye and smart; with some spunk and personality! He figured things out....giving him a hand and light touch sealed his understanding/ confidence in you.
So fun to watch!!!!
Fascinating. Beautiful horse too!
It's just reverse psychology
This definitely is fascinating. Love your videos!
Very good and informative!
Fascinating process. Do you ever sell the horses you acquire? Your horse Swagger seems like he is a fast learner. Great video!
Great video! Actually this is explainable. In a herd situation, alpha chases off and claims the spot. Low horse then “begs forgiveness” by coming in finally, and alpha then chooses to let Low stay, or not. Watch a few horses over some piles of hay, you’ll see this a lot as alpha chases the other(s) off pile after pile. Eventually one of the lows might even end up eating with alpha - after the order is established.
Great lesson for me letting the horse have time after each episode Great!
Very fascinating! Thanks for sharing!
Monty would be proud. This seems similar to his join-up idea which is also rooted in the idea of the horse getting relief from pressure when letting you be the lead. 2 year old children also behave the same way. 🙂
This technique worked wonders with my boy. I remember another horse you had to do this too, and how well she responded, so I used it on my boy and it only took twice!
Amazing! Who would have thought? Thanks for sharing that.
Neigh! great job that horse all hooked up!
I love your videos (except the in and out focus) - I have learned so much...thankful my horse has put up with me. 😁
What do you do if the horse doesn’t buy the bluff of the incoming stick?
My mare is healing from a wound and can’t lunge yet. I waved the stick around at her and gave some light to mid pressure taps, but she just stood there..
Ordered a flag set that is supposed to arrive today and hoping that helps!
What in the wonderful world of weirdness? Who figured this out first???
been doing alot of liberty work with my yearling filly who can be very sassy at times. She’s learning its better to do what this horse is. Ive been doing it in abigger space, but thx for this vid, as It is a confirmation that Ive been doing the right thing.
That was Awesome!! I love you Ryan, you are the best trainer!!
This is a beautiful horse. Love watching your videos.
He was surprised by the horse's behavior and because he did what the horse understands ... he is doing what smart dog handlers do: what matters to a dog!
Wow that is fascinating. What a great video. Thank you for the education.
I watch Steve Young a lot, interesting your knowledge ❤
What a gorgeous 3 year old!
That's pretty dang Kool! I've never seen a join up that looked so easy 😊
You've said before that whoever moves the others' feet is the leader, so this exercise actually makes a lot of sense! By taking his space you're asserting yourself as the herd leader and thereby drawing Swagger's focus onto you in that role. The math checks out!
Beautiful interaction. Will try tomorrow with my mares
So far you are the best trainer I have found on RUclips. Thanks for the content.
I didn't find the series on the Patreon page. I have you added anything for it yet?
Do you ever use a breast collar to help stop the saddle from rolling?
Famtastic - thanks for my next lesson! 🤠
❤ Nice job! I like the technique.
Thanks!
What a beautiful horse!
Huh. I can't quite figure out how this works either! 😳
He's basically saying to the horse I'm not going to let you ignore me until such a point where the horse says ok, I'm listening.
I’ll try this with my mule. Thanks
What a pretty gelding
😃👍 thanks I’m super excited about him
Very interesting 🤔? Gonna try this!
beautiful!
Great training technique. Could you please increase the volume on future videos.
Go to Setting on your phone and Sound. Maybe your Sound volume in Settings can be turned up more. Then the Volume Up button on the side of your phone won’t have to be all the way up for you to hear him. Hope that helps.
He is gorgeous, love his colour 😍
Excellent video. What came to my mind was this is a good technique for horses who are not fit or ones who have a condition where running them around a round pen till their lungs fall out is counter productive.
Or the fit ones who can run all day!
Thats incredible
I love your way..
Fascinating 👍
That is so cool!
He's a beauty
JUST WOW!!!!
Excellent!
love it
I have really been enjoying your videos! This was so interesting very cool how that worked. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge. I have always wanted a horse, took lessons as a child, that's why at 53 now I still work one day a week at a barn just to be around them fills my heart. I do not know if I will ever be able to get a horse of my own, but just to be able to enjoy them and be around them makes me happy. I watch your videos and have picked up good tips and behaviors that I can employ even while just feeding, mucking stalls and walking them to and from the paddocks. Thank you.
That horse is a very unusual color. Not quite bay, not quite blood bay . . . . I don't know what to call it. But he's sure shiny.
This is sooo interesting! How can you implement things like this without access to a round pen? Love his horsemanship gift so much!!
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Ryan you are right. The way humans think it shouldn’t work. However, in the equine world the stallion would do the same thing to exert his dominance in the herd.
Can you train mules this way?
Try it. I expect so. I use the technique on my husband when he won't talk to me!
I love that you gave him time off when you got him
does that work with a wild horse?
Fascinating. ❤
Fascinating!
This is amazing. Thank You. ❤️
It's been a loooong time since I owned a horse, and I'm thoroughly taking this in vicariously. The info of your channel is amazing and extremely valuable. Thank you for offering your expertise (and intensely more) to all who will make it better for horse ownership. As an aside...is this horse considered a chestnut, seal brown or bay?
I would call this a bay. Chestnut is much lighter. Never heard of seal used to describe horse color.
@albatraozgirl yeah, it is a description colour, but not recognised by all it seems. I don't understand the genetics part, but I am intrigued at the classifications and the amazing colours. This one is a beauty, and didnt seem that clear, but he does have shaded points on face, legs and mane.
Excellent !
too many clickbait (non descriptive) titles for my taste, have to unsub unfortunately.
good luck
Bye ✌️
😂 love you ryan your videos help me a lot and l love that it’s easy for me to understand what your doing an why your doing it i’ve watched other people and they kind of make it seem like it’s super complicated but with you it’s easy for me to understand thank you for helping me ❤
Welcome to the internet.
@@ryanrosehorsemanship some channels love to do that all the time because the creators think it makes more people watch. I hate it, when it's done too much, it's getting annoying to constantly get videos with titles like: This should work, A lot has changed, will it matter?, I made a stupid mistake, having a bad day, etc... (all titles from Jays2cents (also unsubbed for same reason).
Wouldn't want to be the original commentators horse if they're as dismissive as that.
This is so damned cool. Love seeing this process. I really hope we see more of Swagger!