I can't tell of Auspex Tactics is having the time of his life with all these new detachments to review or on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Could go either way.
@@MilesStratton haha, yeah, that's what I thought too. Both things can be true. 🙂 I'm guessing he's having fun though. The amount of work he puts in and the acommpanying passion are enough of a sign for me.
You have no idea how fast he is. This man literally doesn't sleep. I have been watching him for 6 years. I love Auspex, he knows he's a servitor for 40k content
@@keyanklupacs6333 he doesn’t though. He’s reading and assessing in real time. Other creators get days of lead time to think up what they’re going to say. It the context and the insight that’s hard to do quickly
Give +1 Toughness army wide then add fabulous bile to chosen unit and you get T6 and S6 weapons. If you feel lucky and get +1 T and +1 S from random rolls you get to S7 thats insane
My first thought when seeing this was to try and crank up Obliterators as much as possible, maybe because I've been looking at an Obliterator heavy list already since I love the models.
Yeah hopefully with the rules updates swapping to be quarterly you'll get a bit of a helping hand eventually here. That being said the black legion one could also work for you since IWs run a lot of heavy armor etc just incentivizes focusing a weak point in enemy formations which seema very in character for Perturbo's Legion.
I mostly play fellhammer as the main core of my list, The big thing it seems for me is what terrain you are playing on. The infantry msu horde style is better than most would give it credit for in gw terrain if you build for breakpoints. I think we're only 1 movement strat away from being top 3, Maybe a blood surge to keep the inexorable tide feeling that IW infantry give.
I think this detachment is really cool and fluffy. I don't think it will ultimately be better competitively than the normally taken ones, but that is kinda what I want out of a grotmas detachment. What I would do is take nothing but infantry (havocs and oblits for fire support), pick the 2" move, start everything on the board and rush the enemy, especially with that advance and charge for terminators or possessed.
I ordered a Rhino and Fabulous Bill from my LGS two weeks ago and expect to pick it up today or tomorrow. This detachment is perfectly timed for me and fits the rest of my army extremely well. Very pleased I happened to decide to pick up Bill 😂
Personally I absolutely love the detachment, though I'll agree the 2CP Strats are too expensive. Probably the only other thing I'd like to change is it should be that you cannot end up with duplicate augmentations. I know Chaos is supposed to have something of a gambling aspect, but it just feels bad to have to risk something that affects your entire game before you even start.
I had a hilarious thought. Just running a solo terminator lord with loving carapace and T6, or optimally T7+2" move and just be super annoying. You have a 125pt character that is T6, 7W, 2+/4++ with a 5+FNP and halfing all damage. That single handedly sounds like one of the most annoying things to kill in the game. Maybe pop your strategem for -1 to hit as well since it will be free. Oh, and if hes in a terminator unit, he can always revive somebody for free every round. Just sounds super funny to me.
Feel like almost all the CSM detachments have things which are either powerful, interesting or both (except the poor night lords), and this one continues it. Feels like a really well written faction this edition.
I'm likely biased because I'm a CSM player, but I honestly think they're the most well executed faction in the game right now. They've got a great (and flavorful) Army rule, really fun and interesting detachments that encourage different playstyles, great models, and can be played a lot of different ways depending on what you're looking for.
@@jeremiegartner464 i've played it 5 times, 2 one off games and an RTT. Currently won 4/5. Cultist jail + reactive move strat + deny reserves strat can be strong. Got an RTT in January i'm planning on running them in again so even they have play I think.
Fabulous Belial has had a ton of Black Library love recently. This makes the upcoming Emperor's Children range refresh look... different? They thought about Bile enough to make a fun extra side detatchment
In lore Bile has been far from EC since his first story, I doubt that he'd be involved in the codex. Would be like putting Cypher in the Dark Angels codex.
@Admiralkirk95 If I'm not dark panting with every attack, it's because I'm dumb and forgot to declare it. Also, it seems every time I forget to declare it, I roll an obscene number of sixes to hit.
@@mentok1 I only won't if the unit will likely die if I fail and I don't exactly NEED it. I chose right yesterday when a single chosen wiped small group of guard on his own to take middle objective to deny points, and to not do it for obliterators when I was desperate to destroy a leman russ but couldn't afford to lose the second oblit(Who was at 2 wounds left), turned out all right and denied point again and got me extend battle lines due to a consolidation and locked my opponent out from tieing me by two points. And yes.... when I don't dark pact I always roll good, it's a genuine actual thing.
Nemesis claw blanking melee strats, lord with the super enhancement. Everything dies. Havocs, oblits with bs and attacks. Bile with chosen. Possesed. Prince with precision giving cover. Terminators with a FNP. Dark apostle with cultist blocking 12" advance n charge ac/dc. Huron reacting back into a land raider. Everything works.
Best combo I’m seeing is +1WS on a 10 man Plague Marine unit. Sadly though you’ll likely always be picking +2” move and just nuking a model every time you want it to fight. The 2 random boons or one selected is kind of rough. Wish Bile allowed one select and one roll.
@@oliverp3545 I think you, generally, just play the 2" move selected. Then just activate the strat when the unit really needs to kill something. Plagues are BattleLine so can rez D3
Large battleline Chaos Space Marine units can likely do well in it. They use a mix of guns and hand to hand weapons, so all the rolls are relevent.. + d3 guys coming back is d3 guys coming back.
This is how they fix Pact Bound Zealot into Word Bearers theme Dark Pacts: Pacts are 6+ just like the other codex detachments. Detachment benefit: Dark Pacts lethal/sustain can re rolls 1’s. All units are allowed to re roll failed Dark Pacts as if they had a Chaos Icon. This allows pact bound zealots to have better chance at succeeding with Dark Pacts and a better chance to roll the 6+ on die rolls of 1’s. ( This also fulfills the theme of Unaligned and Pact Bound Zealots name). Stratagems: Remove the mark only, they can keep the name but all units can benefit from the entire stratagem. This gives more use of the stratagems to every unit. Enhancements: Remove the Mark only they can keep the name as well. This allows all characters to use the enhancements.
@ pact bound is in the top 4. Yet it does not represent the Word Bearer theme like the other detachments do with the other legions. Also, the biggest issue with pact bound is the lack of equal mark play. Everyone plays slaanesh Nurgle because it is to hard and weak dark pacts to play all 5 marks. Khorne tzeentch never really utilized and undivided is only for the 1 stratagem.
@@erikwhitney7403honestly I feel like pactbound is very well designed for word bearers. The two main parts of CSM are the C and the SM. The space marine jobs are covered by mostly datasheets, while the chaos comes in the army rule. Pactbound buffs the chaos part specifically, thus feeling the most like exaltation of the gods. No other chapter is as in touch with the gods, so their pacts feel stronger.
@@banjoskeleton8399 I agree with the exception that 1. Word Bearers are undivided for a reason. They worship all 4 gods, not 1,2,3. The implementation of pacts fails at that because to much relies on different marks making it unlikely that anyone will play all 4 or 5 marks if you add undivided to it. That is why everyone plays only slaanesh and nurgle with undivided for the 1 Strat only. My version gives the theme of both word bearers and pact bound zealots to have access to everything. Re roll dark pact failure (pact bound). Re roll 1’s for lethal/sustain (undivided). Use the Strats equally and fully grants ability to use all marks (pact bound and word bearer like) same with enhancements. Well rounded increase of dark pact success and re roll if 1’s on lethal/sustain. But reduced to 6+ over 5+. But in return full access to all Strats and enhancements.
So remove all the flavour and make it arguably weaker… Don’t forget that detachments are only loosely based on sub factions, packbound zealots doesn’t have to fit the theme of word bearers perfectly it just has to fulfil the theme of falling further into the worship of the dark gods and dedicating yourself to them in exchange for power, which just so happens to be exactly what the word bearers are about.
I think this is good if you want to go with pure shooting (in which case, just choose the +1 BS buff) or pure melee (in which case, take Bile himself and roll for buffs). Either way, you want to spam infantry
Having number of Legionaries, Chosen and Terminators, rolling them two augments and then choosing which units get the characters to lead is a gamble, but can make some disgusting combinations. A bad roll might make an unoptimal units, but flexibility makes it all harder to counter.
I would assume it's going to be Corsair centric detachment because they have a highly specific keyword "Anhrathe" like to the point they even in the detachment rule called corsair and traveling players they say "no Harlequins or Anhrathe can be your warlord" which makes no sense because the only Anhrathe units are the killteam models So I think they did intended on expanding it again into it's own subfaction like harleys and Ynnari.
They’ve got that keyword because drukhari can ally corsairs in, so they’ve been given a specific keyword to avoid issues with that rule. Likewise that “no anharthe unit can be your warlord” only applies to drukhari armies (its pretty standard for ally rules to get that clause for future proofing, just in case a corsairs character gets added they don’t need to worry about them leading drukhari armies). Also assuming the leak is accurate (which is likely as the necron one was leaked then as well) then it can’t be corsairs… there’s only 30 detachments being added and with 26 factions plus 3 extra daemons and deathwatch that accounts for all of them, only way aeldari get 2 is if another faction doesn’t get one at all.
Fun detachment, but it'd be nice to choose/roll for mutations every command phase instead of start of the game. That would mediate the downsides of the rolling. Other than that, just adjusting the two overcosted strats to 1CP would be a solid detachment. These would make them still fun and flavourful, yet consistently playable without sacrifing too much power and balanced overall.
@@murphydaveelte they aren’t. GW said that there’s only 30 detachments being added, 26 factions + 3 extra for daemons and the deathwatch index accounts for all 30. Only way aeldari get 2 is if another faction isn’t getting one (which we know ain’t happening)… It’s prob drukhari getting the second one, or a completely unrelated faction and they are only teasing one of them not both.
@ oh wow I’ve never seen that model I’ve only seen the recent plastic kit with the flesh cloak and all those mechanical arms making him look like a cyber spider of sorts.
I'm gonna be honest, outside of you should PROBABLY run Bile in this detachment, who the hell is NOT gonna run Fabius Bile in the Fabius Bile detachment?
I dont get why people dont think pact bound fits word bearers. You are literally making religious pacts with the gods, veterans of the long war is the generic black legion one
Its because most Chaos warbands usually worship the gods and its the Index (and thus implied generic) detachment. I do think it's Word Bearers, its just not as blunt or flavorful about it as, say, Dread Talons or Deceptors.
Because it doesn't really lean into possessed or damned or their corrupted faithful warrior priest shtick. Its just a generic benefit everything shtick and doesn't feel very word bearery.
I like it, but I was sort of hoping for a more deamon focused detachment. If we got a detachment that focuses on deamon vehicles and can make a vehicle have the deamon keyword. Then what about as detachment focused on deamon infantry and can turn normal infantry into deamon infantry? Still I like the idea. The randomness and needing fabius bile to make the most of this detachment kinda sucks. Thematic but kinda sucks cause now people got to buy him just to make this detachment work. Focusing on stronger infantry is good though I do like that. 2cp for both those strats is bad though. Though to be fair the description of the first one is on a character unit. meaning if it's a group connected to a character, I think. So this could be super useful for something like tough infantry being led by a leader. or a way for legionaires to completely tear down guard with a command squad or something. Also.... two detachments for Aeldari? THey got a codex coming and I think we know what the detachments are already? Like we already know harlequins and tnnari are coming from it, and ynnari will be properly supported with drukari datasheets in the book? So what could they possibly do with two more when I think they already have 7? Once again balance team favours aeldari I guess.
Doesn't really make a lot of sense that damned are excluded once again from a random detachment especially when bile makes heavy use of cultists both in lore and even his own datasheet ability works on them! Very silly. I guess I'll have to play daemonkin heavy but very sad we have yet another detachment that massively rewards normal chaos marines going forward in metal boxes zzz.
@@matter06_98they already got punished in the previous balance dataslate? And that was renegade raiders abusing them more than anyone else tbh. Chaos cults really got screwed for the sins of RR.
@@Ng-zg4dq Not really Pactbound is the generic slaves to darkness detachment from 9th rebranded . The word bearers detachment from 9th was way more about worshiping undivided and way more fluffy there’s no way to viably run the dark apostle and no enhancements specifically for dark apostles too.
Even as a CSM guy it's a little disappointing that GW haven't prioritised armies that are still stuck with their index to get an extra detachment out for them first
So I’m excited for the eventual release of emperor’s children, but like why did they give chaos marines an EC themed detachment if they’re about to be their own faction shortly?
Bile is kind of his own thing. Also, this is more of a way for players to get invested in EC before they get their big release. GW REALLY wants us to be excited for Aeldari and EC right now
I can't tell of Auspex Tactics is having the time of his life with all these new detachments to review or on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Could go either way.
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@@MilesStratton haha, yeah, that's what I thought too. Both things can be true. 🙂
I'm guessing he's having fun though. The amount of work he puts in and the acommpanying passion are enough of a sign for me.
This detachment is both Fabulous and Bile.
Now that’s good chaos
Mmmmmm... choas.
My brother in holy matrimony this detachment was just released this morning and we already have an almost 20 minute long video on it this guy is crazy
I don't think he's even getting an advance look at anything like other content creators. He's a Macheeen
When you have the assets prepared ahead of time it doesn't take too terribly long to through a power point together and then voice over it.
You have no idea how fast he is.
This man literally doesn't sleep.
I have been watching him for 6 years.
I love Auspex, he knows he's a servitor for 40k content
@@keyanklupacs6333 he doesn’t though. He’s reading and assessing in real time. Other creators get days of lead time to think up what they’re going to say. It the context and the insight that’s hard to do quickly
Auspex can make a 45 minute video about something that’s been out for half an hour
Give +1 Toughness army wide then add fabulous bile to chosen unit and you get T6 and S6 weapons. If you feel lucky and get +1 T and +1 S from random rolls you get to S7 thats insane
Don't forget that your Chosen with Powerfists will be S10(!!!). At that point they're basically beating up Tanks.
I love it
30 Possessed and 3 Havocs my friend. Now nothing you get on two rolls is bad.
Actually it opens up quiet a nice balanced approach. Havocs and oblits work really well in this detatchment
Havocs going up to t6 is pretty nutty yeah.
My first thought when seeing this was to try and crank up Obliterators as much as possible, maybe because I've been looking at an Obliterator heavy list already since I love the models.
I'm sitting on 15 Possessed and 6 Obliterators, I am very much interested in this gem lol
You could also run pactbound Tzeentch 'blitz but yeah I'm jazzed to try this one
Fabulous Bill getting special treatment as usual I see
Cry more
Of course! He is the most Fabulous Billy!
As usual?
im like 90% percent sure that the melee favored csm didn't need more reason to use melee, but I'm just salty my Iron Warriors aren't power houses.
Yeah hopefully with the rules updates swapping to be quarterly you'll get a bit of a helping hand eventually here. That being said the black legion one could also work for you since IWs run a lot of heavy armor etc just incentivizes focusing a weak point in enemy formations which seema very in character for Perturbo's Legion.
I mostly play fellhammer as the main core of my list, The big thing it seems for me is what terrain you are playing on. The infantry msu horde style is better than most would give it credit for in gw terrain if you build for breakpoints.
I think we're only 1 movement strat away from being top 3, Maybe a blood surge to keep the inexorable tide feeling that IW infantry give.
Honestly, the IW detachment is better than I thought it would be, but unfortunately it's very dependent on what faction your opponent is playing.
@OP they are in the lore at least. Iron Within, Iron Without!
@@HeartlessNinny1 Iron within, Iron without
I think this detachment is really cool and fluffy. I don't think it will ultimately be better competitively than the normally taken ones, but that is kinda what I want out of a grotmas detachment. What I would do is take nothing but infantry (havocs and oblits for fire support), pick the 2" move, start everything on the board and rush the enemy, especially with that advance and charge for terminators or possessed.
You could just play world eaters ;)
I can make Raptors and Warp Talons better and as a night lords player, that’s all I wanted
I ordered a Rhino and Fabulous Bill from my LGS two weeks ago and expect to pick it up today or tomorrow. This detachment is perfectly timed for me and fits the rest of my army extremely well. Very pleased I happened to decide to pick up Bill 😂
Personally I absolutely love the detachment, though I'll agree the 2CP Strats are too expensive.
Probably the only other thing I'd like to change is it should be that you cannot end up with duplicate augmentations. I know Chaos is supposed to have something of a gambling aspect, but it just feels bad to have to risk something that affects your entire game before you even start.
I had a hilarious thought. Just running a solo terminator lord with loving carapace and T6, or optimally T7+2" move and just be super annoying. You have a 125pt character that is T6, 7W, 2+/4++ with a 5+FNP and halfing all damage. That single handedly sounds like one of the most annoying things to kill in the game. Maybe pop your strategem for -1 to hit as well since it will be free. Oh, and if hes in a terminator unit, he can always revive somebody for free every round. Just sounds super funny to me.
Sounds like you just built a cheaper Trajann Valoris... but the lord can revive models too! Yikes!
Feel like almost all the CSM detachments have things which are either powerful, interesting or both (except the poor night lords), and this one continues it. Feels like a really well written faction this edition.
I'm likely biased because I'm a CSM player, but I honestly think they're the most well executed faction in the game right now. They've got a great (and flavorful) Army rule, really fun and interesting detachments that encourage different playstyles, great models, and can be played a lot of different ways depending on what you're looking for.
@GCarssow yeah, i've had fun with my necrons but CSM is much better for building list variety and playing different styles.
Deceptor is really weak. It needs a detachment rule.
@@jeremiegartner464 i've played it 5 times, 2 one off games and an RTT. Currently won 4/5. Cultist jail + reactive move strat + deny reserves strat can be strong. Got an RTT in January i'm planning on running them in again so even they have play I think.
Fabulous Belial has had a ton of Black Library love recently. This makes the upcoming Emperor's Children range refresh look... different?
They thought about Bile enough to make a fun extra side detatchment
In lore Bile has been far from EC since his first story, I doubt that he'd be involved in the codex. Would be like putting Cypher in the Dark Angels codex.
This detachment is nuts and I'm here for it.
Will test the list for this detachment next week. Some buff combos are very potent. Hyped for this detachment
You could play it safe by picking your favorite Mutation Buff however my counter argument is this is CHAOS! No balls.
DICE FOR THE DICE GODS! Tzeench would be pleased.
If you aren't dark pacting with every attack are you even playing chaos? So let's add another form of randomness.
This is the only way 😂
@Admiralkirk95 If I'm not dark panting with every attack, it's because I'm dumb and forgot to declare it. Also, it seems every time I forget to declare it, I roll an obscene number of sixes to hit.
@@mentok1 I only won't if the unit will likely die if I fail and I don't exactly NEED it. I chose right yesterday when a single chosen wiped small group of guard on his own to take middle objective to deny points, and to not do it for obliterators when I was desperate to destroy a leman russ but couldn't afford to lose the second oblit(Who was at 2 wounds left), turned out all right and denied point again and got me extend battle lines due to a consolidation and locked my opponent out from tieing me by two points.
And yes.... when I don't dark pact I always roll good, it's a genuine actual thing.
I'm just saying, abbadon leading chosen, +2" of movement with the natural advance and charge of chosen
Nemesis claw blanking melee strats, lord with the super enhancement. Everything dies. Havocs, oblits with bs and attacks. Bile with chosen. Possesed. Prince with precision giving cover. Terminators with a FNP. Dark apostle with cultist blocking 12" advance n charge ac/dc. Huron reacting back into a land raider. Everything works.
Best combo I’m seeing is +1WS on a 10 man Plague Marine unit. Sadly though you’ll likely always be picking +2” move and just nuking a model every time you want it to fight.
The 2 random boons or one selected is kind of rough. Wish Bile allowed one select and one roll.
You have 4 chances at the one you really want and a bonus, pretty good odds I'd say.
@@oliverp3545 I think you, generally, just play the 2" move selected. Then just activate the strat when the unit really needs to kill something. Plagues are BattleLine so can rez D3
Living Carapace on a Jump Lord seems strong especially if you have the +2" move and +1A vicious
Large battleline Chaos Space Marine units can likely do well in it. They use a mix of guns and hand to hand weapons, so all the rolls are relevent.. + d3 guys coming back is d3 guys coming back.
So they took away Drukhari combat drugs and gave it to CSM...not gonna lie I feel a little salty about it.
I swear Bile has had this exact rule before.
This is how they fix Pact Bound Zealot into Word Bearers theme
Dark Pacts: Pacts are 6+ just like the other codex detachments.
Detachment benefit: Dark Pacts lethal/sustain can re rolls 1’s. All units are allowed to re roll failed Dark Pacts as if they had a Chaos Icon.
This allows pact bound zealots to have better chance at succeeding with Dark Pacts and a better chance to roll the 6+ on die rolls of 1’s. ( This also fulfills the theme of Unaligned and Pact Bound Zealots name).
Stratagems: Remove the mark only, they can keep the name but all units can benefit from the entire stratagem. This gives more use of the stratagems to every unit.
Enhancements: Remove the Mark only they can keep the name as well. This allows all characters to use the enhancements.
Pactbound is one of the most powerful detachments in the book. It doesn't need to be "fixed" if you run it properly
@ pact bound is in the top 4. Yet it does not represent the Word Bearer theme like the other detachments do with the other legions. Also, the biggest issue with pact bound is the lack of equal mark play. Everyone plays slaanesh Nurgle because it is to hard and weak dark pacts to play all 5 marks. Khorne tzeentch never really utilized and undivided is only for the 1 stratagem.
@@erikwhitney7403honestly I feel like pactbound is very well designed for word bearers.
The two main parts of CSM are the C and the SM. The space marine jobs are covered by mostly datasheets, while the chaos comes in the army rule.
Pactbound buffs the chaos part specifically, thus feeling the most like exaltation of the gods. No other chapter is as in touch with the gods, so their pacts feel stronger.
@@banjoskeleton8399 I agree with the exception that 1. Word Bearers are undivided for a reason. They worship all 4 gods, not 1,2,3. The implementation of pacts fails at that because to much relies on different marks making it unlikely that anyone will play all 4 or 5 marks if you add undivided to it. That is why everyone plays only slaanesh and nurgle with undivided for the 1 Strat only. My version gives the theme of both word bearers and pact bound zealots to have access to everything. Re roll dark pact failure (pact bound). Re roll 1’s for lethal/sustain (undivided). Use the Strats equally and fully grants ability to use all marks (pact bound and word bearer like) same with enhancements. Well rounded increase of dark pact success and re roll if 1’s on lethal/sustain. But reduced to 6+ over 5+. But in return full access to all Strats and enhancements.
So remove all the flavour and make it arguably weaker…
Don’t forget that detachments are only loosely based on sub factions, packbound zealots doesn’t have to fit the theme of word bearers perfectly it just has to fulfil the theme of falling further into the worship of the dark gods and dedicating yourself to them in exchange for power, which just so happens to be exactly what the word bearers are about.
I think this is good if you want to go with pure shooting (in which case, just choose the +1 BS buff) or pure melee (in which case, take Bile himself and roll for buffs). Either way, you want to spam infantry
Possessed would actually become T7.
Having number of Legionaries, Chosen and Terminators, rolling them two augments and then choosing which units get the characters to lead is a gamble, but can make some disgusting combinations. A bad roll might make an unoptimal units, but flexibility makes it all harder to counter.
Can I use the Helm of all seeing on the Dark apostle and then add a cultist squad to them to screen my backfield
It's the bearer and Cultists wouldn't benefit anyway
thumbs for the approval god cuticles for his technician chair
So how many dozens of books am I going to have to buy to use these detachments?
Another day, another video 😂. Happy Grotsmas Auspex Tactics. Happy hunting, everyone 😅. Oh, look, it's agents of Bile.
I would assume it's going to be Corsair centric detachment because they have a highly specific keyword "Anhrathe" like to the point they even in the detachment rule called corsair and traveling players they say "no Harlequins or Anhrathe can be your warlord" which makes no sense because the only Anhrathe units are the killteam models So I think they did intended on expanding it again into it's own subfaction like harleys and Ynnari.
They’ve got that keyword because drukhari can ally corsairs in, so they’ve been given a specific keyword to avoid issues with that rule. Likewise that “no anharthe unit can be your warlord” only applies to drukhari armies (its pretty standard for ally rules to get that clause for future proofing, just in case a corsairs character gets added they don’t need to worry about them leading drukhari armies).
Also assuming the leak is accurate (which is likely as the necron one was leaked then as well) then it can’t be corsairs… there’s only 30 detachments being added and with 26 factions plus 3 extra daemons and deathwatch that accounts for all of them, only way aeldari get 2 is if another faction doesn’t get one at all.
Eldar get two new detachments on top of their current one and have a codex coming out soon. Alright
Fun detachment, but it'd be nice to choose/roll for mutations every command phase instead of start of the game. That would mediate the downsides of the rolling.
Other than that, just adjusting the two overcosted strats to 1CP would be a solid detachment.
These would make them still fun and flavourful, yet consistently playable without sacrifing too much power and balanced overall.
Nah this is already super strong
Only way that would be balanced is if you could only use each mutation once per game. It's fine as is.
Appreciate the content as always. Can you asign different augmentations on the different units or is it a blanket 1 or 2 for all applicable infantry?
Blanket
Ah its kinda like the old Dark Eldar combat drugs
Seems a bit weird that Aeldari are getting 2 detachments when they have a codex due out soon.
Possibly because harlequins was folded in with them?
Leave my eldar alone, they never hurt any one. Let my poor eldar cook they need the help
@@murphydaveelte they aren’t. GW said that there’s only 30 detachments being added, 26 factions + 3 extra for daemons and the deathwatch index accounts for all 30. Only way aeldari get 2 is if another faction isn’t getting one (which we know ain’t happening)…
It’s prob drukhari getting the second one, or a completely unrelated faction and they are only teasing one of them not both.
What’s the mini on the left on the thumbnail? I have the Obliterator but what’s that other thing?
Are you talking about Fabius Bile? He’s the model on the left
@ oh wow I’ve never seen that model I’ve only seen the recent plastic kit with the flesh cloak and all those mechanical arms making him look like a cyber spider of sorts.
I forget they always use multiple thumbnails now I guess it could be the mini on the right on the same pic you saw with Fabius on the left
What’s the model showing at the start of the video with only one mini displayed at 1:03 ?
@gillian_seed8358 old greater possesed
Fabulous detachment compared to the Librarians detachment
T6 plague marines?
T6 havocs...
Oh boy, just when I was wondering what I'll use my new 3d printer for. Looks like it's time to embrace chaos
Hopefully getting a printer for Christmas!
I'm starting to think Auspex Tactics is an android sent by cyberlife with how quickly these videos come out
toughness 7 possessed is wrong in so many wayssss
How so? Other than bulk the offensive profile is entirely meh. Randomly got hit going from index to codex despite not really being a problem. Mop too.
👏👏👏👏👏👏
Super excited to try it tomorrow!
Prime test subject lord with Nemesis claw blanking strats and strealth. Yes.
I'm gonna be honest, outside of you should PROBABLY run Bile in this detachment, who the hell is NOT gonna run Fabius Bile in the Fabius Bile detachment?
If you take abbadon for the buffs.
And another detachment where Marks of Chaos are meaningless.
I dont get why people dont think pact bound fits word bearers. You are literally making religious pacts with the gods, veterans of the long war is the generic black legion one
Because WB worship all Gods equaly and lore wise put focus on Possessed
Its because most Chaos warbands usually worship the gods and its the Index (and thus implied generic) detachment. I do think it's Word Bearers, its just not as blunt or flavorful about it as, say, Dread Talons or Deceptors.
Because it doesn't really lean into possessed or damned or their corrupted faithful warrior priest shtick. Its just a generic benefit everything shtick and doesn't feel very word bearery.
I like it, but I was sort of hoping for a more deamon focused detachment. If we got a detachment that focuses on deamon vehicles and can make a vehicle have the deamon keyword. Then what about as detachment focused on deamon infantry and can turn normal infantry into deamon infantry?
Still I like the idea. The randomness and needing fabius bile to make the most of this detachment kinda sucks. Thematic but kinda sucks cause now people got to buy him just to make this detachment work. Focusing on stronger infantry is good though I do like that. 2cp for both those strats is bad though.
Though to be fair the description of the first one is on a character unit. meaning if it's a group connected to a character, I think. So this could be super useful for something like tough infantry being led by a leader. or a way for legionaires to completely tear down guard with a command squad or something.
Also.... two detachments for Aeldari? THey got a codex coming and I think we know what the detachments are already? Like we already know harlequins and tnnari are coming from it, and ynnari will be properly supported with drukari datasheets in the book? So what could they possibly do with two more when I think they already have 7?
Once again balance team favours aeldari I guess.
possessed are t6 not 5, so theyd go up to t7 if you pick +1t which is crazy 0.o
The threshold just isnt the meaningful as 5 to 6 tbh.
Doesn't really make a lot of sense that damned are excluded once again from a random detachment especially when bile makes heavy use of cultists both in lore and even his own datasheet ability works on them! Very silly. I guess I'll have to play daemonkin heavy but very sad we have yet another detachment that massively rewards normal chaos marines going forward in metal boxes zzz.
It's because accursed cultist dark commune bricks are just super strong.
@@matter06_98they already got punished in the previous balance dataslate? And that was renegade raiders abusing them more than anyone else tbh. Chaos cults really got screwed for the sins of RR.
Dark apostle can sneak them in kinda
Hold on a minute, is there a rule or keyword which prevents Plague Marines, Rubrics or Berzerkers from taking the augments?
They also profit from it
They just can't get a leader. Bit they work
Nope, all infantry excepted damned are fine.
Word bearers getting shafted again, I wish they could have released a detachment that could make dark apostles as powerful as they were in 9th.
I wish the Apostles were worth taking. The model is really cool
@@Motorcitynightsyou definately take one in chaos cults at least.
They have a detachment
@@Ng-zg4dq Not really Pactbound is the generic slaves to darkness detachment from 9th rebranded . The word bearers detachment from 9th was way more about worshiping undivided and way more fluffy there’s no way to viably run the dark apostle and no enhancements specifically for dark apostles too.
@sasinator6918 disagree
Monstrous Visages seems a bit better now that Armor of Contempt was nerfed tbh
I knew it was going to be creations of bile. Not complaining but GW is super predictable a lot of the time. It’s creations of bile with combat drugs
Even as a CSM guy it's a little disappointing that GW haven't prioritised armies that are still stuck with their index to get an extra detachment out for them first
Its a matter of days. Its fine. Most people weren't going going to get a ton of games before the holidays are over anyway
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So I’m excited for the eventual release of emperor’s children, but like why did they give chaos marines an EC themed detachment if they’re about to be their own faction shortly?
Cus bile technically isn't EC anymore. He has his own army of monstrosities and serves all the chaos gods supplying them with his experiments
Bile is kind of his own thing. Also, this is more of a way for players to get invested in EC before they get their big release. GW REALLY wants us to be excited for Aeldari and EC right now
Bile isn't really EC. Heck, if you want to get technical, Bile doesn't even believe the Chaos Gods are real.
Bile is not EC. He straight up just isn't. He originally was from the EC but repudiated them 10,000 years ago. Stop.
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Chaos Space Marines does that just mean Black Legion and other non main traitor legions or does it include the likes of Death Guard too ?
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