Personally, I love that they left Anakin with his blue saber. To me, it always added a much more devastating, gut-wrenching feeling seeing two blue sabers going against each other with the perfect red fiery background as it captivated that feeling of betrayal and loss as two people, who were once brothers now turned enemies, have to fight to the death. Not to mention that those two blue sabers weren’t just any sabers, as they were Anakin’s and Obi Wan’s. Seeing the two blue sabers swinging at each other really made me think to myself “how did it come to this?” Adding so much more emotion to the scene for me.
Totally agree. Before that fight a blue saber was only in the hands of those who stood for goodness. Seeing it turned on another saber in malice felt like a perversion.
Also, it teases you with a *teeny* glimmer of hope, kinda like “Oh, they’re not really trying to kill each other.. This is just a sparring match.. Any minute they’re gonna stop, shake hands, and be brothers again.. Any minute now.”
Crazy that it took society a whole generation to realize that Hayden played his part very well. Everything from the action sequences, to his acting and portraying the "angry young adult".
I feel like the further away from their release...the more people get nostalgic about them. Personally...i still think the first two were pretty bad and I'll only watch them for nostalgia.
Not to be "that guy" lol, but I always saw Hayden as the perfect Anakin; maybe I feel that way due to the nostalgia as another person stated, but I genuinely always loved his portrayal of the young pre-Vader. He played the angsty rebellious young adult so accurately, so much so that every action, down to the most miniscule facial expression, flawlessly depicted just how Anakin would've reacted in each given situation were this real life.
It’s because people had a different idea of how Vader would’ve been as a young man. When you take like 20-30 years to make the next trilogy, people will already have a set mind on what they want and anything else will pretty much disappoint them
“Came out of theaters disappointed”?! I’ll never forget seeing this scene in theater during the midnight premiere. Then skipping school later that day. I absolutely love this duel. It outclasses everything that Disney has come out with BY FAR
I love how he just absolutely walks down Obi-Wan, barely moving his head to avoid attacks and putting so much power with minimal effort. Man makes it look easy af.
Except Obi-Wan beat Anakin in every encounter (even the last if you think about it). Obi-Wan was the greatest Jedi by far as shown by all the powerful Sith he defeated (Anakin/Vader, Grievous, Darth Maul) and by remaining true to the Jedi ideals.
I really wish they'd kept more shots like the one here where Anakin just leans back away from a strike and casually blocks behind him while walking in the final cut. It's not just a cool action, but it shows Anakin beginning to fight the way Vader does in the Original Trilogy - not the wild aggression of Prequel Anakin, but steady, planted, and impenetrable.
2:56 Would have been such a FLEX from Anakin. The nonchalant lean to dodge the overhead swipe, into a series of one handed parries ALL while still advancing, just shows how confident he is in his newfound power.
One thing that I never fully realized how much I appreciated is Hayden’s stride during the fight. Head unfaltering, unflinching as he walks towards Obi-Wan near completely consumed by his anger (seen around 2:48)
@@StarWarsAnalyst yes hayden really captured vader's fighting prowless, even what i call "vader slashes" when hes killing the seperatists,and good look on how vader would use the things around him to throw at his opponents even anakin does this against ventress and a few bounty hunters in the clone wars cartoon
Cause it was trash...decades of hype wanting to see a young anakin at full power and he barely used the force. He took out dooku with ease yet obi wan who got yeeted by dooku somehow held him off. Same shit happened in the new series. And with darth maul. Obi wan has more plot armour than a dark trooper
@@garysanders8350 I agree they barly used the force like in star wars the force unleashed game did and it was good but it was not bad either the sword fight was good need a 2 or more flourishs and variety of powers
Hayden is so fucking talented with the lightsaber, he could have actually been a real jedi... even Ewan admitted there were things Hayden could do that he could not replicate. I'm so angry at the people that gave Hayden shit back in the days, he was incredibly dedicated to the role and gave an amazing performance.
I mean he basically invented cringe, we just forgot he was supposed to. Personally, I got over it early when seeing the bonus features of him behind the scenes for the video game. The genuine love he had for Star Wars and the skill he had with the saber moves, unimpeachable and exemplary.
@@KalonOrdona2George Lucas said it best people thought they didn’t like Hayden but they really just didn’t like Anakin because Hayden played Anakin perfectly.
I loved this when I saw it in the theater. I think it's good but an extended scene would have been great, especially the light saber exchange. Imagine Anakin being sliced up by his own (blue) light saber. Something else that was left I saw somewhere else was Anakin asking for help. Obi says "I loved you...but I can't help you". That's when Anakin responds with I hate you and his eyes go yellow. That would have been awesome to see as well.
Anakin asking for help would not have been a good idea, it was fortunately cut off. It would have made Obi-Wan being the bad guy here, with him refusing to help someone begging for it.
@@headgehogmusic but it would still be within his character. Bro literally told Anakin's kid to murder him, because he did not believe there was an ounce of good left in him. This is the reason he would not save him. Obi-Wan always had a very black/white view of the galaxy and rarely, if ever, saw things as morally grey. It's only after witnessing Vader's death (through the Force) that he came to believe he was wrong about Anakin, as he would have never believed it unless he saw it.
"Anakin VS: Obi-wan (Saber Edit)" It is a youtube video, Check it out... it eliminates alot of the clunky stuff hand to hand stuff and dramatic pauses, makes it a solid fight rather than cutting back and forth with yoda emperor fight, and edits Anakin to using Palpatines spare saber as was originally intended as Obi-Wan was originally supposed to find Anakin's Saber at the temple massacre... definitely worth a watch
Hayden just casually walking while performing crazy lightsaber attacks/blocks/and parries makes him look like such a badass. Truly conveys his confidence and power as he transforms into Vader
@@bennyblunto973 it was, the awkwardness was intentional and people only see it as awkward, although the romance sections can be a bit over the top sometimes
5:56 EXACTLY. That was the whole point of the scene, it mirrored what Obi Wan did to Darth Maul. And this showed the growth of Obi Wan as a patient fighter and it showed the arrogance and anger from Anakin. All in one simple move.
It was a lazy way to end a fight that they did not know how to end. Anakin has been sold as intelligent, prudent, the less reckless of the two and has precognition so he would know the jump would fail and would never have attempted it. Obiwan throughout the series wins purely due to plot armor, they do not even try to explain how he wins against Maul nor Grievous. What they should have used was that Obiwan is better trained in the force and simply uses something that Anakin was never taught to defeat him.
@@gideonlovecraft3134 This. The way Obiwan "defeated" Darth Maul was ludicrous and came from a vastly more compromised position than just not having "the high ground(tm)". If Lucas really did try drawing some sort of parallel between that silliness and the bitter, poignant, devastating clash between these two brothers is not just lazy and stupid, it's downright insulting. And all of this ignores the fact that in several movies, Jedi have force-jumped VASTLY higher than anything in this fight -- so why jump right into melee range? Why not leap 30' in the air and come down like a vengeful Sith Lord? Cuz they had no idea how to force the loss that everything else in their plot depended on. Classic blunder: write something that must happen and then develop characters that cannot fit into that event. Hayden was perfect in this sequence and portrayed someone that never would have lost in such a pathetic manner. Blah.
I loved the part in the obi wan series where obi wans lightsaber slashes Vader's mask and he gets a look at what Anakin has become and Anakin's voice is mixed with the deep Vader voice.
@Spiralredd Nah, they just stole that exact scene from Rebels where it was Ahsoka fighting Vader. The scene in Rebels was EPIC. This scene only was enough as a reason to watch Rebels. But you have to watch the Clone Wars first of course, if you didn't. In my opinion the Clone Wars are better than the prequels and go second in my personal SW rating after the original trilogy.
@@galaxyrider9599 it doesn't matter because it's a lot more impactful for obi wan to experience it than Ashoka because obi wan is responsible for him being in the suit. Ashoka isn't
@@Spiralreddalso his connection to Obi Wan far outweighs Ahsoka. Don’t get me wrong I loved the scene in Rebels just because broken mask Vader is always cool and well Vader in general. I just don’t care for Ahsoka these days.
I love how Hayden & Ewin became friends after all of this. It made it much more compelling when they fought during the Obi Wan series! When actors have good chemistry...it makes a great story!
People always complain about the dialogue of Anakin in the Prequels, and often forget he is a teenager who literally marries a princess and becomes a knight. He's living a fairytale, and when everything starts to fall apart, that is when Anakin begins to turn to the darkside. Another thing to note is that Obi-wan trained Anakin. People complain that Anakin and Obi-wan's fight looks a bit too much like they are widely flailing and doing unnecessary moves, but they aren't. They are essentially fighting a mirror, with Obi-wan prioritizing defense and Anakin being hyper-aggressive, despite being trained in a heavily defensive style. The moment that is most telling is when they do the twirl and for several seconds, nothing happens - they're doing the same defensive move to stave off attacks. Anakin's fighting style only really changes when he becomes Vader and is unable to move as nimbly, and specifically develops a style meant to combat lightsabers.
Seemed that they had better ideas that what they chose to actually film. I could have done without the lava surfing to be honest, and the end to the fight was just like they had no idea how to end it so they just had Anakin do something stupid.
Hayden gave it Keanu level of dedication, he deserved way more credit. I loved the prequels it gave us the best lightsaber duels of all the movies, it is also insane how much better they could have also been.
Start giving him this credit by not comparing him to Keanu or anyone else. He gave this Hayden level of dedication which (the phrase) should be an indication of the great level of commitment.
Their swordsmanship is one of the greatest things I've ever seen in film. We all hoped to see it brought back for the Kenobi series, unfortunately it never reached anywhere near that level
When I first saw the film, I thought that final jump from Anakin where he gets sliced up was so stupid and out of character considering the rest of the fight. But only recently, after watching lots of RUclips videos about it, I now see how well it ties in with the prequel trilogy as a whole, and how it's a parallel of Kenobi's fight with Maul and it REALLY IS just like poetry lol
Also it only worked on Maul because he himself was arrogant (Best explanation we're gonna get for such a lapse in judgement.) Maul is much like Anakin in his craving for a false sense of security that ultimately killed him to Old Ben. Obi-Wan is an expert on capitalizing on arrogant opponents.
Easy fix would have been if Obi Wan jumped onto a pipe or something on the lava beach where he would still have high ground and advantage for attacks if anakin jumped to the lava beach. If he were on a pipe or something narrow where anakin had to land directly in front or behind him to continue the fight the flip directly over him would make much more sense
I'm not a star wars fan but this 2:25 This bit where kenobi throws a object and anakin effortlesss deflects it and, just, starts walking SLOWLY is absolute gold. If that was kept in the movie it would be talked about to this day.
Love Hayden's body language in this. I'd always assumed his movement as vader was him being constrained by his suit (which is probably still true) but here, it comes off more as being fully in control. His powers heightened by the dark side, the methodical, purposeful attacks and movement speaks to him almost playing with Obi Wan. Very great physica acting.
I’m not late coming to Hayden’s defense. I’ve always thought that he was great and some of the fans just hated him or were jealous. I’m glad to see Hayden FINALLY getting the praise that he’s deserved for over 20 years. The man is amazing and it’s nice to see how humble and thankful he is for the fans coming to him now. ❤
Yeah they ruined all the yeara we could’ve had Hayden as part of Star Wars. Now he’s in his 40s and Disney continues to run the series into the ground.
Didn't help him against Dooku, who utterly humiliated Obi-Wan --- twice. In retrospect, I find Dooku's victories over Obi-Wan very satisfying, since Disney seems to have overpowered him to make him some sort of Jedi-God.
@@jetuber Obi-Wans best attribute was that he was the pinnacle of a hard hat blue collar Jedi whose greatest attribute was his wit. Disney destroyed that by somehow overpowering him to... Disney main character levels. If he were to win such a mismatch, Obi-Wan would do so through awareness and perfect timing not emotional power ups.
@@7632ios And that first battle will never make sense. Dooku can definitively beat Kenobi (he did it twice). And if pre- Mustafar Anakin can defeat Dooku, who is better than Kenobi, then he surely should have handily defeated Kenobi. I know that Kenobi tricked Anakin into trying a foolish stunt at the end, but it shouldn't have even gotten that far -- Anakin should have beaten him quite quickly right when they started dueling, since pre-M Anakin could defeat even Dooku, who was far better than Kenobi.
@@7632ios LOL. The novelizations. The movies are the movies, and it's what they show that counts, not whatever some novelization writer wants to make up. In fact, that's one of the few good things about the prequels -- they show that Sith CAN beat Jedi.
I just realized something... wouldn't Anakin ACTUALLY be the first Jedi to kill a Sith (Dooku) in a millennium? Maul wasn't actually killed by Obi-Wan, not until much later.
@@masterexploder9668 lol right? While saving obiwan and the chancellor of the republic at the same time. I understand anakins feelings of being offended there
2:47 I like the little bit of character in Anakin's movement here. You can just tell that this little kick PISSED him off. The way he turns back to fight he's just like "are you serious"
I wish this was shown more in the fight, Anakin looks as though he's fighting effortlessly. Just moving his head to the side and walking menacingly as he engages obiwan.
Forreal, even with just the smattering of grainy, fast-cut sequences shown I still thought they had a more "satisfying" feel to them compared to the impression the finished scene left. Imo that's also a proper mini-rebuttal tothe assertion of the "genius of the prequels" made here too... K. I mean I won't thrash the host's opinion here bc I get it: The prequels are retro af by now & therefore fascinating to a wide swath of younger folks & so I hope they get waaay more mileage out of them than the rest of us did back then, I know I wish I did!
Another idea they had during their duel which was cut, they were confronted by a giant monster forced to team up and form an alliance to defeat the monster, working together side by side for one last time.
I would've loved to watch an extra 20minutes of Obiwan and Anakin just dueling it out on Mustafar. That sequence was possibly the most hype duel of the time and even now. Obi Wan Kenobi series has shown us, how much we enjoy Vader and Obiwan Duels. I hope there's another in the time between Episode 4 and Obi Wan Kenobi series
...and the worst of all time. Watch Troy with Achilles' and Hector's duel for a duel that will last throughout the ages. In 20 years, people will laugh at this sorry excuse of a duel. They laughed at it when it came out and they will laugh at it again, as Holllywood's worst moments.
Honestly hayden and anakin are the same people this man’s choreograph is insane the way he was able to do those lightsaber fight at the speed they do them at are insane
It was a good fight but it was difficult at times to track 2 blue light sabers smashing against each other. I think Palpatine should have given Anakin/Vader one of his red lightsabers and been like “Strike Down the Jedi and Separatists with this weapon, after this is complete you’ll have proven yourself to the Sith” in my best Palpatine voice. Or Kenobi being the negotiator should have had a Green Lightsaber and been a Jedi Consulor like Qui Gon. The color contrast would have made the fight way better.
I think the whole point was they were brothers, the same, a mirror image of each other, evenly matched in power. That's why they had the same lightsaber.
The only issue with Hayden's choreography is that he was too fast and had to wait on his opponent, blocking before his opponent event started the strike more than once.
Force powers allow the predict the future in combat, it's in the books and lore. Also note, some silly looking moves are designed to throw these predictions off.
@@RicoZaid_I think he meant actual Hayden was too fast so other actors had to slow down, he was just too good at the fighting choreography. Unless you are making a joke because Hayden portrays Anakin who is a very strong Jedi.
Anakin vs Obi-Wan was and still is epic, enhanced by Hayden Christiansen's incredible physical prowess. My favorite lightsaber duel between two characters at the peak of their abilities, matched only by the amazing animation and motion capture of Ray Park for Darth Maul vs Ashoka during the final season 7 episodes of SW The Clone Wars.
I always loved Hayden's portrayal of Anakin. "Revenge of the Sith" is my personal favorite film in the Star Wars Universe. I named my son Anakin because of Hayden's performances. Almost everyone I knew gave me crap over it at the time and nobody had anything good to say about Hayden at the time. My son was born in August of 2007 (only 2 years after the release of Episode 3)❤And now, 16 years later, I don't feel alone with that sense of admiration. Its wonderful to see Hayden playing this amazing role again. Its also heartwarming to see that he's getting positive attention for his work. Very well deserved, indeed.
I always wondered if Anakin actually still stand a chance after losing the high ground to Obi-Wan assuming that his mind was calmer. If Anakin tried to jump side ways, Obi-Wan can possibly follow him and then slash him. If Anakin throws lava at him, Obi-Wan can push it back and Anakin would have very little room to dodge it (he can push it back again but we all know from an earlier scene that force attacks from both sides are actually even matched so what that might lead to is lava ends up spilling everywhere but Obi-Wan would have plenty of room to dodge it while Anakin has practically none). There seems to be a lot of choice for outplay but in fact Anakin's options were quite limited.
All he had to do is hop off the stand he was on and walk up to Obi Wan and continue fighting a fight that Anakin would probably win being the much stronger fighter
Nah he could have just stayed on that platform, wait a little and jump to the ground, he wasn't in the rush since Obi was no way of going back to the platform , he clearly would not have pushed Anakin in the lava either , Anakin was just too cocky to wait and he wasn't sane either
I always felt like once their duel reaches the scene where Obi-Wan is higher on the ledge and Anakin is below on the little floating robot, he should have just left it at that. He didn't even need to accept defeat, just pretend like he did, then later try to ambush Kenobi again before he gets back on the ship he arrived in. But in his arrogance, he felt like he had to take out Obi-Wan right at that very moment and tries to attack when he is majorly disadvantaged.
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Your research efforts are amazing, I thought I might be one of the most obsessed fans until I've found your channel, you're just a whole different level :D keep up the good work
How smooth was Hayden with that matrix dodge! And at that speed, it would have beheaded almost anyone else. The moment where he flicks off the incoming block from obi was pretty sick too.
I agree with my man speaking here first time i saw this fight i got goose bumps it doesnt get boring to watch that one part where they are just spinning the light sabers infront of them without even hitting each other was just beatifully done
4:06 is so badass. I would love to have seen the full fight scene. Vader just edge-walking, full of hatred and anger, barely holding himself back from letting his anger consume him. Of course in the end, he failed to stop it from doing so.
This is why I like the new Star Wars content that we've been getting lately. They are pulling from so much content that we never originally got. Books, deleted scenes, games and more. I would love to see some of the older stuff again with the deleted content added. The Vader VS. Obi Wan fight in Kenobi is probably my second fav light saber duel. Good stuff.
I like that they left the movie mistake version. I’ve always loved that intimate force choke. It expresses just how anger he has if he’s willing to watch him slowly die like that
Thanks for making this video. Watching Hayden work his moves in behind-the-scenes 'practice' is just incredible, especially the way he twirls his lightsaber around and blocks attacks even coming from behind him... This content just adds even more awesomeness to watching the finished film _SW III_
Oh man, the idea of Anakin flinging lava is really pretty cool. It could've been a "Oh crap, I didn't think of that" moment for Obi Wan, but he would have been able to deflect it. However, it would also represent how Anakin, in a way, surpassed Obi Wan without a drawn out saber fight.
I wouldn't mind having some of the scenes in there. As great as it showed anakin's desperation, and Obi-Wan's unwillingness to kill him, I still felt something was missing. The lava deal was a bit goofy.
If only Disney would’ve gave us more when they released the whole collection as the skywalker saga. It would’ve Been amazing to see them go back and add all the great things that were deleted due to budget ect as well as payed for the right to have the enhanced Ben v Vader duel that was put here on RUclips… I know they truly don’t care about the fans and just want there money but dang imagine if fans truly could get what we desire. Like the entitled shits we are. Honestly am glad he kept his blue lightsaber for the duel it felt like it was a good connection to how he was having a difficult time turning fully
there is also a scene on mustafar which Anakin/Vader and obi-wan at some point of their duel had to team up one last time because they encounters an insectoid species so aggresive and fast that none of them alone could get over it so for a brief moment , they have to figth together....
How could people have been disappointed by the duel? It was so good the entire film was marketed around it, and 90% of people or more say it's their favorite duel in the entire franchise. Though this is an awesome video and I think the duel would've been even better if it kept these scenes!
if you ask me a lot of these ideas got reappropriated for the Kenobi show anyway. Im still happy with the finished film version of the fight, and thats normally how it goes with filmmaking, the sequence is more over stuffed at the beginning in the assembly as they are not sure how much footage they will needed so they make it longer, and trim it down till what they think is the very best bits that ends up in the 20 minutes, they make the best calls they think at the time. But yeah any ideas left on the table like i say can make it into subsequent Star Wars media so its not gone forever :) Good video, keep up the Good work! ^_^ Also, like you say the bit with the balance beam, Obi wan getting debris thrown at him was more overtop, yeah agreed but there you go its a long sequence and they probably thought do we need a funny bit in the middle to let down the tension? They don't know and its hard to say how far is too far? when they look at it all cut together they can see if its too much and they scale back abit till they feel its the right balance of things.
I could easily think how the gazing scene would have in fact NOT been "creepy." The animatics are just that... animatics meant to provide a 3D mapping of how the scene would play out. The models don't convey the emotion the actors would. So while they're staring intently at each other, Anakin's scowl never falters, but Obi-Wan's would... only briefly, as he realized that the man he raised and cared about is very much trying to kill him. With that realization, Obi-Wan's face would reharden as his resolve to defend himself and defeat this Sith Lord returned.
Now I want to see the full version. Despite it's length I think it would really add some gravity to both characters. Also Obi Wan has always been a master of the low ground. Low ground victories were Maul, Grevious and Anakin (When he flipped over him.) Even ground defeats were Dooku, Dooku rematch, Grevious (until he got the low ground advantage he was getting his ass kicked.), and Darth Vader on the death star.
I like the idea of Anakin's blue kyber crystal begin to bleed and eventually turn red by the end of his duel against Obi-wan, and it would've imo had a much greater impact in representation that Anakin actually did turn to the Dark Side
Just saw Nick’s interview with SWTheory. Its a shame how rude you’ve been in your dealings with Nick. Hoping others see that interview and this channel is seen for what it is…a cash grab on someone else’s content.
Nothing is stolen and I NEVER removed any water mark…. He is lying to SWT. ruclips.net/user/shorts2oOsLUwO0Hw?feature=share What I said to Nick was absolutely disrespectful, abhorrent, and outright vile. However, it’s important to establish that Nick is leaving out key elements of the story as to why those things were said at all. He’s also adding in some lies (such as that I removed his logo/watermark, which I never did). Nevertheless, there is no excuse for the things that I said to such a hero in the fanbase, but I simply got caught up in my own rage of the moment. Allow me to explain from the very beginning. My conversation with Nick first began on October 14 when I explained that I like to analyze scenes that were deleted from Star Wars. I asked him if he could share the extended Palpatine vs 4 Jedi footage. I spoke to him with nothing but adoration, praise, and respect. 2 weeks later on November 1st, he shared the very footage that I had asked for, and I sent him another message letting him know how much I appreciated him for doing that. We chatted back and forth a bit, but I didn’t hear back from him again until about a week later. On November 8th, rather than texting me like usual, he sent me an email cursing at me. Despite him cursing at me, I was very apologetic, respectful, and even said “If you want me to remove anything or make any changes, please just let me know...” He didn’t respond to me, so I decided to send him another text message where I told him “Hopefully you can see man to man, that this was just a misunderstanding. I fully apologize and want you to know that I’m genuinely sorry. If you’d like me to remove the content, please let me know…” He NEVER responded to this text message, and I did not hear from him again until 2 months later. I was more than willing to take down the videos, or make any adjustments, but then in January, I received 6 copyright takedown notifications from Nick. This was when I sent those nasty messages to him. Was I wrong? Of course I was. There’s no excuse for that amount of disrespect. I was just very upset and overwhelmed about my channel receiving so many copyright strikes when I had specifically told him that I would just remove anything that he wanted me to. I would like the opportunity to apologize to Nick myself, but naturally, I have since been blocked. Attached are some text messages and emails that show what really happened from the beginning…👇 ruclips.net/user/shorts2oOsLUwO0Hw?feature=share
I would pay a lot for a full alternative episode III movie with all the extra ideas they have discarted. The quality of the material they recorded but decide to cut from the original movie is insane
Some of those deleted clips are very impressive. Hayden and the choreographers did a great job. One of my favorite sword fights in cinema is the one at the end of "House of Flying Daggers". The reason being is it's such an emotional scene and you can see it in the choreography. I felt something similar watching some of these deleted clips from ep3.
I don't think there will ever be another star wars actor to put in as much work like Hayden did with the lightsaber. Most actors take the easy route and get a stunt double to do it for them but I love the fact that Hayden took time and effort to do it flawlessly himself. And honestly it really perplexed me how so many people had so much hate on his portrayal and acting as Anakin. I always thought it was right on point. Anakin was always supposed to be a highly emotional person.. And so many people hated on him saying he acted like a little brat or something. What perplexes me is the fact that so many people view things in such small minded ways and easily follow the crowd and common and trending perspectives on things... Sorry I just needed to say that.. But really not sorry 😉 cause it's true.
From the moment i watched the prequals for the first time, I loved Hayden as Anakin. He was-still is-so right for the role. You can feel every emotion coursing through Anakin, you can feel his hurt, his frustration, his confliction, his fear, his arrogance. You know what he's thinking by merely observing his body language. It takes a truly talented actor to pull that off, and not to even mention the sheer dedication that Hayden had for this character. I can literally not imagine live-action Anakin being played by anyone else. Hayden did it perfectly and he deserved so much more praise than what he got when these movies came out. I'm so glad people are finally recognizing it.
Nothing is stolen and I NEVER removed any water mark…. He is lying to SWT. ruclips.net/user/shorts2oOsLUwO0Hw?feature=share What I said to Nick was absolutely disrespectful, abhorrent, and outright vile. However, it’s important to establish that Nick is leaving out key elements of the story as to why those things were said at all. He’s also adding in some lies (such as that I removed his logo/watermark, which I never did). Nevertheless, there is no excuse for the things that I said to such a hero in the fanbase, but I simply got caught up in my own rage of the moment. Allow me to explain from the very beginning. My conversation with Nick first began on October 14 when I explained that I like to analyze scenes that were deleted from Star Wars. I asked him if he could share the extended Palpatine vs 4 Jedi footage. I spoke to him with nothing but adoration, praise, and respect. 2 weeks later on November 1st, he shared the very footage that I had asked for, and I sent him another message letting him know how much I appreciated him for doing that. We chatted back and forth a bit, but I didn’t hear back from him again until about a week later. On November 8th, rather than texting me like usual, he sent me an email cursing at me. Despite him cursing at me, I was very apologetic, respectful, and even said “If you want me to remove anything or make any changes, please just let me know...” He didn’t respond to me, so I decided to send him another text message where I told him “Hopefully you can see man to man, that this was just a misunderstanding. I fully apologize and want you to know that I’m genuinely sorry. If you’d like me to remove the content, please let me know…” He NEVER responded to this text message, and I did not hear from him again until 2 months later. I was more than willing to take down the videos, or make any adjustments, but then in January, I received 6 copyright takedown notifications from Nick. This was when I sent those nasty messages to him. Was I wrong? Of course I was. There’s no excuse for that amount of disrespect. I was just very upset and overwhelmed about my channel receiving so many copyright strikes when I had specifically told him that I would just remove anything that he wanted me to. I would like the opportunity to apologize to Nick myself, but naturally, I have since been blocked. Attached are some text messages and emails that show what really happened from the beginning…👇 ruclips.net/user/shorts2oOsLUwO0Hw?feature=share
@@StarWarsAnalyst Then why not take them down and re-establish communication with Nick to sort this out? Your own reply here admits something that you're possibly leaving out, you asked him for the videos to analyze the scenes but did you explicitly request if you could use the videos to post on youtube with your analysis? If you did is this in writing? You gave no credit where the videos came from either. He provided you the videos but under what pretense? Your response above does not indicate that you verbalized or wrote that your intention was to use them publicly. If I woke up one morning to see a video I owned trending on youtube or getting a million views but I never authorized for it to be released, yeah I'd be pissed too and have every right to verbalize my distaste with you. Like you said, it sounds like this may be one big misunderstanding but what have you done to rectify it with Nick other than keep the videos up and act like a Child towards him?
I never connected the 2 “I have the high ground” moments and how they paralleled each other. Awesome! I’ve always loved the movies. I always thought Hayden did an amazing portrayal of Anakin. ❤️
i whould say, that in that Scene on Mustafar, when Anakin and Obi wan lose ther Lightsaber, and Take then the Lightsaber from ther opponent, that isn't a mistake.
OH MY GOD... I never realized how Anakin jumping over Obi Wan mirrored what Obi did to Maul in the first movie! That is such a great detail that makes me appreciate the films even more. Absolutely fantastic
I swear so many of these deleted lighsaber duels should have been in the films , the best parts are taken out wtf, great finds, keep up the great work, maybe some of them are over the rtop tho
The real goat is that stunt actor who is doubling for Ewan. He doubled for Sheev too and actually had some sick coreography while dispatching Mace's team.
Can we just take a second to talk about how intimidating Hayden is as Vader in these scenes. He's almost like Michael Myers losing all humanity and feeling from murder and pain that he is endlessly moving
I really wish they kept in some of those scenes where you can see briefly that Anakin is only using one hand to hold his lightsaber while blocking and striking. I know it probably made Kenobi look weaker than he is but I love how arrogant it makes Anakin look like fighting the guy that taught him practically everything he knows is a cake walk.
It took a long time but it is great he is finally getting the appreciation he deserves. He played the part just as George wanted & was really dedicated to his part.
This unfinished one is much more aware of the fact that Anakin is infinitely stronger than Obi-Wan, and only lost because of his arrogance. In the duel we got, you could argue that Obi-Wans constant Backfoot is just their different fighting styles, but it’s much less clear.
@@dhumantorch A draw? You call obi-wan constantly backing up a draw? You’re not even taking the events as a different interpretation, you’re just flat out wrong. The kenobi episode with the anakin vs obiwan mini duel was literally a representation of anakins faults. Anakin beat obi-wan in the duel, but just because he gloated and showed arrogance, Obiwan was able to steal anakins lightsaber and come out on top. If you really believe that you’re right, go ahead and watch this and see for yourself. ruclips.net/video/B7LAAtKhuYQ/видео.html George Lucas even said that “anakin was stronger, but obiwan had more experience”. He won by playing on anakins frustrations and anger.
@@7632ios Yeah if we ignore the fact he took a hard swing at anakin while he was down, and anakin barely blocked it. And also that when the large bridge was falling down the lava fall, kenobi jumps to safety, letting anakin risk falling the river. Then yeah, sure, he “didn’t want to kill him”. He didn’t want to, but he sure as hell tried. Nice theory, but no.
Ewan and Hayden really worked their butts off to get that choreography especially Hayden he did all his dueling scenes while Ewan had a stunt double do some of it every once in awhile
Bro they need to just release "stunt actors the movie" where we just get to watch the Stunt doubles doing their work with all of the special effects that we get in the movie.
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Personally, I love that they left Anakin with his blue saber. To me, it always added a much more devastating, gut-wrenching feeling seeing two blue sabers going against each other with the perfect red fiery background as it captivated that feeling of betrayal and loss as two people, who were once brothers now turned enemies, have to fight to the death. Not to mention that those two blue sabers weren’t just any sabers, as they were Anakin’s and Obi Wan’s. Seeing the two blue sabers swinging at each other really made me think to myself “how did it come to this?” Adding so much more emotion to the scene for me.
Excellent analysis. Beautifully said.
Agreeeeeed
Also ties in better to how Obi-Wan ended up giving Luke the blue blade.
Totally agree. Before that fight a blue saber was only in the hands of those who stood for goodness. Seeing it turned on another saber in malice felt like a perversion.
Also, it teases you with a *teeny* glimmer of hope, kinda like “Oh, they’re not really trying to kill each other.. This is just a sparring match.. Any minute they’re gonna stop, shake hands, and be brothers again.. Any minute now.”
Crazy that it took society a whole generation to realize that Hayden played his part very well. Everything from the action sequences, to his acting and portraying the "angry young adult".
Yeah it honestly really is
I feel like the further away from their release...the more people get nostalgic about them. Personally...i still think the first two were pretty bad and I'll only watch them for nostalgia.
Not to be "that guy" lol, but I always saw Hayden as the perfect Anakin; maybe I feel that way due to the nostalgia as another person stated, but I genuinely always loved his portrayal of the young pre-Vader. He played the angsty rebellious young adult so accurately, so much so that every action, down to the most miniscule facial expression, flawlessly depicted just how Anakin would've reacted in each given situation were this real life.
@@buzzyb13 AGREED!!!
It’s because people had a different idea of how Vader would’ve been as a young man. When you take like 20-30 years to make the next trilogy, people will already have a set mind on what they want and anything else will pretty much disappoint them
“Came out of theaters disappointed”?!
I’ll never forget seeing this scene in theater during the midnight premiere. Then skipping school later that day.
I absolutely love this duel. It outclasses everything that Disney has come out with BY FAR
I totally agree with you. Some people don’t like it tho idk what they wanted this is perfect in my eyes
I saw it in the movies 3 times just to see this scene.
Disney?? Disney duels are completely FORGETTABLE, the same as their Star Wars movies.
Episode 3 absolutely blew me away.
Saw it in the theatre 4 times I think.
@@cykeok3525 Episode 3 is about the only reason people still talk about the prequels imo.
I love how he just absolutely walks down Obi-Wan, barely moving his head to avoid attacks and putting so much power with minimal effort. Man makes it look easy af.
I think he was the strongest of all the jedi but he could not overcome his greatest opponent, himself.
That is, until he does ;)
Except Obi-Wan beat Anakin in every encounter (even the last if you think about it). Obi-Wan was the greatest Jedi by far as shown by all the powerful Sith he defeated (Anakin/Vader, Grievous, Darth Maul) and by remaining true to the Jedi ideals.
I really wish they'd kept more shots like the one here where Anakin just leans back away from a strike and casually blocks behind him while walking in the final cut. It's not just a cool action, but it shows Anakin beginning to fight the way Vader does in the Original Trilogy - not the wild aggression of Prequel Anakin, but steady, planted, and impenetrable.
@@babawonga3208 yeah, back when he was a Padawan lmao Anakin was above him at this point
@@XogoWasTakenyeah that would have been a lot cooler to watch. I always hated the whole lava chase sequence.
2:56 Would have been such a FLEX from Anakin. The nonchalant lean to dodge the overhead swipe, into a series of one handed parries ALL while still advancing, just shows how confident he is in his newfound power.
That would’ve been the cleanest weave in cinematic history. I feel robbed
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Facts. Instantly Weave-Nation Certified
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Facts. Instantly Weave-Nation Certified
One thing that I never fully realized how much I appreciated is Hayden’s stride during the fight. Head unfaltering, unflinching as he walks towards Obi-Wan near completely consumed by his anger (seen around 2:48)
Yeah it’s so similar to how Vader moves
@@StarWarsAnalyst yes hayden really captured vader's fighting prowless, even what i call "vader slashes" when hes killing the seperatists,and good look on how vader would use the things around him to throw at his opponents even anakin does this against ventress and a few bounty hunters in the clone wars cartoon
@@StarWarsAnalyst really puts someone inside the suit doesn’t it
Absolutely, like he would walk straight through him. Terminator like almost
how tf was anyone disappointed by that duel, it was incredible
My thoughts exactly. I love it.
Cause it was trash...decades of hype wanting to see a young anakin at full power and he barely used the force. He took out dooku with ease yet obi wan who got yeeted by dooku somehow held him off. Same shit happened in the new series. And with darth maul. Obi wan has more plot armour than a dark trooper
@@garysanders8350 I agree they barly used the force like in star wars the force unleashed game did and it was good but it was not bad either the sword fight was good need a 2 or more flourishs and variety of powers
Too choreographed tbh. Especially when they’re spinning lightsabers like glow sticks
@@vampsith yeah just seemed like a dance. Like those people who dress up and pretend to be light saber experts
Hayden is so fucking talented with the lightsaber, he could have actually been a real jedi... even Ewan admitted there were things Hayden could do that he could not replicate. I'm so angry at the people that gave Hayden shit back in the days, he was incredibly dedicated to the role and gave an amazing performance.
I mean he basically invented cringe, we just forgot he was supposed to. Personally, I got over it early when seeing the bonus features of him behind the scenes for the video game. The genuine love he had for Star Wars and the skill he had with the saber moves, unimpeachable and exemplary.
@@KalonOrdona2 He used the lines he was given. there's only so much he can do. Regardless, he is THE iconic Anakin Skywalker
@@KalonOrdona2George Lucas said it best people thought they didn’t like Hayden but they really just didn’t like Anakin because Hayden played Anakin perfectly.
Agreed!
You're right. Some people are NEVER happy with anything.
I loved this when I saw it in the theater. I think it's good but an extended scene would have been great, especially the light saber exchange. Imagine Anakin being sliced up by his own (blue) light saber. Something else that was left I saw somewhere else was Anakin asking for help. Obi says "I loved you...but I can't help you". That's when Anakin responds with I hate you and his eyes go yellow. That would have been awesome to see as well.
im pretty sure in the final cut anakin looks at him with pleading eyes and reaches out to him, and obi wan i think nods. not sure, but you can check.
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Nods yes or shakes his head no?
Bro that should have been in the movie, that would be amazing
Anakin asking for help would not have been a good idea, it was fortunately cut off. It would have made Obi-Wan being the bad guy here, with him refusing to help someone begging for it.
@@headgehogmusic but it would still be within his character. Bro literally told Anakin's kid to murder him, because he did not believe there was an ounce of good left in him. This is the reason he would not save him. Obi-Wan always had a very black/white view of the galaxy and rarely, if ever, saw things as morally grey.
It's only after witnessing Vader's death (through the Force) that he came to believe he was wrong about Anakin, as he would have never believed it unless he saw it.
This fight is still the most badass scene in all of star wars. Will never be topped. It's so epic
💯 True....... the only thing that might top it would be an extended cut with that lava wave🤯
"Anakin VS: Obi-wan (Saber Edit)"
It is a youtube video, Check it out... it eliminates alot of the clunky stuff hand to hand stuff and dramatic pauses, makes it a solid fight rather than cutting back and forth with yoda emperor fight, and edits Anakin to using Palpatines spare saber as was originally intended as Obi-Wan was originally supposed to find Anakin's Saber at the temple massacre... definitely worth a watch
The lava looks so bad. Worst cgi I’ve ever seen.
@@thezeek2745 obviously it was unfinished there🤦♀️
@@KatrinEgilsdottir That sounds terrible. The film is perfect the way it is; it doesn't need any youtube channels editing it.
Hayden just casually walking while performing crazy lightsaber attacks/blocks/and parries makes him look like such a badass. Truly conveys his confidence and power as he transforms into Vader
Hayden put so much work into practice for these scenes, and gets so much crap. He truly looks like he was putting everything he had into it. Respect.
Can't blame the actors for the script they were given.
@@shadowmancy9183 that's right. ''don't hate the player, son''
@@shadowmancy9183 script was good too. It only took 20 years for people to realize
@@bennyblunto973 agree I don't know how people can hate ROTS litrelly people sometimes just ask too much man this movie was perfect 10/10
@@bennyblunto973 it was, the awkwardness was intentional and people only see it as awkward, although the romance sections can be a bit over the top sometimes
5:56 EXACTLY. That was the whole point of the scene, it mirrored what Obi Wan did to Darth Maul.
And this showed the growth of Obi Wan as a patient fighter and it showed the arrogance and anger from Anakin.
All in one simple move.
When he said that in the video my mind was blown, such an awesome thing George did there
Try jumping over him, that's a good trick!
It was a lazy way to end a fight that they did not know how to end.
Anakin has been sold as intelligent, prudent, the less reckless of the two and has precognition so he would know the jump would fail and would never have attempted it.
Obiwan throughout the series wins purely due to plot armor, they do not even try to explain how he wins against Maul nor Grievous.
What they should have used was that Obiwan is better trained in the force and simply uses something that Anakin was never taught to defeat him.
@@gideonlovecraft3134 This. The way Obiwan "defeated" Darth Maul was ludicrous and came from a vastly more compromised position than just not having "the high ground(tm)". If Lucas really did try drawing some sort of parallel between that silliness and the bitter, poignant, devastating clash between these two brothers is not just lazy and stupid, it's downright insulting. And all of this ignores the fact that in several movies, Jedi have force-jumped VASTLY higher than anything in this fight -- so why jump right into melee range? Why not leap 30' in the air and come down like a vengeful Sith Lord? Cuz they had no idea how to force the loss that everything else in their plot depended on. Classic blunder: write something that must happen and then develop characters that cannot fit into that event. Hayden was perfect in this sequence and portrayed someone that never would have lost in such a pathetic manner. Blah.
Obi-Wan gazing into Anakin's eyes and clearly realizing that this isn't Anakin anymore would've been incredible
I loved the part in the obi wan series where obi wans lightsaber slashes Vader's mask and he gets a look at what Anakin has become and Anakin's voice is mixed with the deep Vader voice.
@Spiralredd Nah, they just stole that exact scene from Rebels where it was Ahsoka fighting Vader. The scene in Rebels was EPIC. This scene only was enough as a reason to watch Rebels. But you have to watch the Clone Wars first of course, if you didn't. In my opinion the Clone Wars are better than the prequels and go second in my personal SW rating after the original trilogy.
@@galaxyrider9599 it doesn't matter because it's a lot more impactful for obi wan to experience it than Ashoka because obi wan is responsible for him being in the suit. Ashoka isn't
@@Spiralreddalso his connection to Obi Wan far outweighs Ahsoka.
Don’t get me wrong I loved the scene in Rebels just because broken mask Vader is always cool and well Vader in general. I just don’t care for Ahsoka these days.
I love how Hayden & Ewin became friends after all of this. It made it much more compelling when they fought during the Obi Wan series! When actors have good chemistry...it makes a great story!
2:56 I’m sorry, but that small sequence was just so clean. It shows how anakin was the more advanced duelist, and how little effort he needed at times
Right it’s so impressive
Very clean
Obi Wan also knew Anakin was the better duelist thats why he stayed on the defensive.
Also shows that Anakin didn't lose because of skill diff he was arrogant.
I mean, Obi-Wan overwhelmed and kicked Anakin a couple of seconds before this...
People always complain about the dialogue of Anakin in the Prequels, and often forget he is a teenager who literally marries a princess and becomes a knight. He's living a fairytale, and when everything starts to fall apart, that is when Anakin begins to turn to the darkside.
Another thing to note is that Obi-wan trained Anakin. People complain that Anakin and Obi-wan's fight looks a bit too much like they are widely flailing and doing unnecessary moves, but they aren't. They are essentially fighting a mirror, with Obi-wan prioritizing defense and Anakin being hyper-aggressive, despite being trained in a heavily defensive style. The moment that is most telling is when they do the twirl and for several seconds, nothing happens - they're doing the same defensive move to stave off attacks. Anakin's fighting style only really changes when he becomes Vader and is unable to move as nimbly, and specifically develops a style meant to combat lightsabers.
Man that moment where they take each other's sabers would have been soooo awesome
Seemed that they had better ideas that what they chose to actually film. I could have done without the lava surfing to be honest, and the end to the fight was just like they had no idea how to end it so they just had Anakin do something stupid.
It’s a shame they didn’t use that whole sequence. Would’ve been really cool
Hayden gave it Keanu level of dedication, he deserved way more credit. I loved the prequels it gave us the best lightsaber duels of all the movies, it is also insane how much better they could have also been.
Start giving him this credit by not comparing him to Keanu or anyone else. He gave this Hayden level of dedication which (the phrase) should be an indication of the great level of commitment.
Their swordsmanship is one of the greatest things I've ever seen in film. We all hoped to see it brought back for the Kenobi series, unfortunately it never reached anywhere near that level
Yeah I wasn’t too fond of the series, but I enjoyed the finale
It’s because they tried intriguing the scene through force and revenge
That one scene where Kenobi went a lil loco with his saber was pretty neat.
At least we got that fight we’re kenobi schooled anakin
Yes. It started me down my own path of swordsmanship that I still do today.
When I first saw the film, I thought that final jump from Anakin where he gets sliced up was so stupid and out of character considering the rest of the fight. But only recently, after watching lots of RUclips videos about it, I now see how well it ties in with the prequel trilogy as a whole, and how it's a parallel of Kenobi's fight with Maul and it REALLY IS just like poetry lol
Also it only worked on Maul because he himself was arrogant (Best explanation we're gonna get for such a lapse in judgement.) Maul is much like Anakin in his craving for a false sense of security that ultimately killed him to Old Ben. Obi-Wan is an expert on capitalizing on arrogant opponents.
Easy fix would have been if Obi Wan jumped onto a pipe or something on the lava beach where he would still have high ground and advantage for attacks if anakin jumped to the lava beach. If he were on a pipe or something narrow where anakin had to land directly in front or behind him to continue the fight the flip directly over him would make much more sense
The way Anakin is motivated by sheer desperation to prove himself, but also, by ENVY towards Obi Wan, his former Master.
I was today years old when I made that connection. Puts the ill-fated jump in such a new light.
Yeah this is a first for me. I can't believe I didn't of it that way after all these years.
I'm not a star wars fan but this
2:25
This bit where kenobi throws a object and anakin effortlesss deflects it and, just, starts walking SLOWLY is absolute gold.
If that was kept in the movie it would be talked about to this day.
Facts. And it’s so Vader-ish
@@StarWarsAnalystfun fact, I’m late, but it also emphasizes the arrogance that Anakin had in his ability’s, which was his ultimate downfall
Love Hayden's body language in this. I'd always assumed his movement as vader was him being constrained by his suit (which is probably still true) but here, it comes off more as being fully in control. His powers heightened by the dark side, the methodical, purposeful attacks and movement speaks to him almost playing with Obi Wan. Very great physica acting.
It was such a waste. They had the components for a much better ending fight but chose something less interesting and ultimately less impactful.
4:08 would’ve been INCREDIBLE to see on screen
I’m not late coming to Hayden’s defense. I’ve always thought that he was great and some of the fans just hated him or were jealous. I’m glad to see Hayden FINALLY getting the praise that he’s deserved for over 20 years. The man is amazing and it’s nice to see how humble and thankful he is for the fans coming to him now. ❤
I love the duel on Mustafar. I hate how people gave Hayden crap for years.
Yeah they ruined all the yeara we could’ve had Hayden as part of Star Wars.
Now he’s in his 40s and Disney continues to run the series into the ground.
@@TREVORVADER I think he's not too old, yet. I mean make-up for one and the job in Kenobi series was pretty convincing even if it was just this voice.
Battles are not always win by power, but also by intelligence and strategy. And Obi Wan was an expert in the second one.
Didn't help him against Dooku, who utterly humiliated Obi-Wan --- twice. In retrospect, I find Dooku's victories over Obi-Wan very satisfying, since Disney seems to have overpowered him to make him some sort of Jedi-God.
@@jetuber Obi-Wans best attribute was that he was the pinnacle of a hard hat blue collar Jedi whose greatest attribute was his wit.
Disney destroyed that by somehow overpowering him to... Disney main character levels. If he were to win such a mismatch, Obi-Wan would do so through awareness and perfect timing not emotional power ups.
@@7632ios And that first battle will never make sense. Dooku can definitively beat Kenobi (he did it twice). And if pre- Mustafar Anakin can defeat Dooku, who is better than Kenobi, then he surely should have handily defeated Kenobi. I know that Kenobi tricked Anakin into trying a foolish stunt at the end, but it shouldn't have even gotten that far -- Anakin should have beaten him quite quickly right when they started dueling, since pre-M Anakin could defeat even Dooku, who was far better than Kenobi.
@@7632ios LOL. The novelizations. The movies are the movies, and it's what they show that counts, not whatever some novelization writer wants to make up. In fact, that's one of the few good things about the prequels -- they show that Sith CAN beat Jedi.
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I'm thinking it's fire beats wood, which beats water, which beats fire.
Bruh at 2:58, I love how Hayden/Anakin so effortlessly throws his saber behind his back and blocks the strike like the timing was perfect
The battle was fine as it was, we like the final version, and it’s quite cool that some cut elements ended up in Kenobi. Cool.
I just realized something... wouldn't Anakin ACTUALLY be the first Jedi to kill a Sith (Dooku) in a millennium? Maul wasn't actually killed by Obi-Wan, not until much later.
Yes technically. But during Anakin’s Padawan years, Obi Wan probably received a lot of clout in the Jedi Temple for “killing” Maul.
Ironic. Obi-Wan gets a promotion for "killing" Maul, but when Anakin does precisely the same, he only gets "take a seat, young Skywalker".
@@masterexploder9668 lol right? While saving obiwan and the chancellor of the republic at the same time. I understand anakins feelings of being offended there
Almost 20 years and we are still waiting the damn extended cut
Pablo Hidalgo surely you can do better
-Dooku
@@wilrsjasac hes too busy arguing with people on twitter to put resources into getting an extended cut made.
This was most impressive. Half way through this movie with my kids. They haven’t seen this scene yet. I’m glad I watched this before
Can’t wait for the day I can share this masterpiece with my son 😊
I like how both of the times you mention Anakin is arrogant you show the “This is outrageous, it’s unfair!” scene
But can we appreciate how GOOD Hayden is at lightsaber combat? He makes it look so effortless
Yea seeing it in the movies is one thing seeing the actual live practice footage is another.
2:47 I like the little bit of character in Anakin's movement here. You can just tell that this little kick PISSED him off. The way he turns back to fight he's just like "are you serious"
I wish this was shown more in the fight, Anakin looks as though he's fighting effortlessly. Just moving his head to the side and walking menacingly as he engages obiwan.
It also shows how the dark side affects the way he fights.
Forreal, even with just the smattering of grainy, fast-cut sequences shown I still thought they had a more "satisfying" feel to them compared to the impression the finished scene left. Imo that's also a proper mini-rebuttal tothe assertion of the "genius of the prequels" made here too... K. I mean I won't thrash the host's opinion here bc I get it: The prequels are retro af by now & therefore fascinating to a wide swath of younger folks & so I hope they get waaay more mileage out of them than the rest of us did back then, I know I wish I did!
Another idea they had during their duel which was cut, they were confronted by a giant monster forced to team up and form an alliance to defeat the monster, working together side by side for one last time.
imagine if it happen.
I would've loved to watch an extra 20minutes of Obiwan and Anakin just dueling it out on Mustafar. That sequence was possibly the most hype duel of the time and even now. Obi Wan Kenobi series has shown us, how much we enjoy Vader and Obiwan Duels. I hope there's another in the time between Episode 4 and Obi Wan Kenobi series
They should have done a short and shot the duel to be 10 times as long lol
It would be awesome to have just an hour of this duel as a ballet. With the music and choreography, it's basically a ballet already
...and the worst of all time. Watch Troy with Achilles' and Hector's duel for a duel that will last throughout the ages. In 20 years, people will laugh at this sorry excuse of a duel. They laughed at it when it came out and they will laugh at it again, as Holllywood's worst moments.
@@henrikg1388keep coping, we haven't had a duel this well made since
@@TimothyGodWtf was that dude in here for. Hollywood? Is ROTS Hollywood at all? I don’t even get what he means.
Honestly hayden and anakin are the same people this man’s choreograph is insane the way he was able to do those lightsaber fight at the speed they do them at are insane
It was a good fight but it was difficult at times to track 2 blue light sabers smashing against each other. I think Palpatine should have given Anakin/Vader one of his red lightsabers and been like “Strike Down the Jedi and Separatists with this weapon, after this is complete you’ll have proven yourself to the Sith” in my best Palpatine voice. Or Kenobi being the negotiator should have had a Green Lightsaber and been a Jedi Consulor like Qui Gon. The color contrast would have made the fight way better.
Oh yeah if that was the case, then it would have mirrored Luke vs Vader from return of the jedi
I think the whole point was they were brothers, the same, a mirror image of each other, evenly matched in power. That's why they had the same lightsaber.
Both Anakin’s and Obi-Wan’s sabers were blue in ANH, tho. But visually I agree with you.
Ever see something so great you're almost at a loss for words? That's how I felt watching this. Brilliant video, man. 👊
Really appreciate the kind words 😊
The only issue with Hayden's choreography is that he was too fast and had to wait on his opponent, blocking before his opponent event started the strike more than once.
he’s force sensitive, why wouldn’t he be able to do that?
Force powers allow the predict the future in combat, it's in the books and lore. Also note, some silly looking moves are designed to throw these predictions off.
@@RicoZaid_I think he meant actual Hayden was too fast so other actors had to slow down, he was just too good at the fighting choreography. Unless you are making a joke because Hayden portrays Anakin who is a very strong Jedi.
@@bravosix2960 ah ok :)
Anakin vs Obi-Wan was and still is epic, enhanced by Hayden Christiansen's incredible physical prowess. My favorite lightsaber duel between two characters at the peak of their abilities, matched only by the amazing animation and motion capture of Ray Park for Darth Maul vs Ashoka during the final season 7 episodes of SW The Clone Wars.
I always loved Hayden's portrayal of Anakin. "Revenge of the Sith" is my personal favorite film in the Star Wars Universe. I named my son Anakin because of Hayden's performances. Almost everyone I knew gave me crap over it at the time and nobody had anything good to say about Hayden at the time. My son was born in August of 2007 (only 2 years after the release of Episode 3)❤And now, 16 years later, I don't feel alone with that sense of admiration. Its wonderful to see Hayden playing this amazing role again. Its also heartwarming to see that he's getting positive attention for his work. Very well deserved, indeed.
I always wondered if Anakin actually still stand a chance after losing the high ground to Obi-Wan assuming that his mind was calmer. If Anakin tried to jump side ways, Obi-Wan can possibly follow him and then slash him. If Anakin throws lava at him, Obi-Wan can push it back and Anakin would have very little room to dodge it (he can push it back again but we all know from an earlier scene that force attacks from both sides are actually even matched so what that might lead to is lava ends up spilling everywhere but Obi-Wan would have plenty of room to dodge it while Anakin has practically none). There seems to be a lot of choice for outplay but in fact Anakin's options were quite limited.
All he had to do is hop off the stand he was on and walk up to Obi Wan and continue fighting a fight that Anakin would probably win being the much stronger fighter
Nah he could have just stayed on that platform, wait a little and jump to the ground, he wasn't in the rush since Obi was no way of going back to the platform , he clearly would not have pushed Anakin in the lava either , Anakin was just too cocky to wait and he wasn't sane either
I always felt like once their duel reaches the scene where Obi-Wan is higher on the ledge and Anakin is below on the little floating robot, he should have just left it at that. He didn't even need to accept defeat, just pretend like he did, then later try to ambush Kenobi again before he gets back on the ship he arrived in. But in his arrogance, he felt like he had to take out Obi-Wan right at that very moment and tries to attack when he is majorly disadvantaged.
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Honestly Anakin is much stronger than Obi in the force so he shouldn't have been stalemated like that with force push
Your research efforts are amazing, I thought I might be one of the most obsessed fans until I've found your channel, you're just a whole different level :D keep up the good work
Glad you enjoyed!
It was jaw-dropping how you addressed Nick. I'm astounded a fan would speak to him that way... Who raised you?? You do not talk to people like that.
2:56 That behind-the-back block was so aloof and casual, it's beautiful.
How smooth was Hayden with that matrix dodge! And at that speed, it would have beheaded almost anyone else.
The moment where he flicks off the incoming block from obi was pretty sick too.
Hayden is incredible here. He actually moves like a Jedi. I wonder just how many hours went into that sequence?
Many
I agree with my man speaking here first time i saw this fight i got goose bumps it doesnt get boring to watch that one part where they are just spinning the light sabers infront of them without even hitting each other was just beatifully done
4:06 is so badass. I would love to have seen the full fight scene. Vader just edge-walking, full of hatred and anger, barely holding himself back from letting his anger consume him.
Of course in the end, he failed to stop it from doing so.
0:30 Can you imagine if a move like this actually made it into the fight? Would’ve been way too hype
I watched this movie 7 times in the theater. I have never felt what I felt watching this movie with another film. Anakin was phenomenal.
This is why I like the new Star Wars content that we've been getting lately. They are pulling from so much content that we never originally got. Books, deleted scenes, games and more. I would love to see some of the older stuff again with the deleted content added. The Vader VS. Obi Wan fight in Kenobi is probably my second fav light saber duel. Good stuff.
Lol
I love how in this it makes it feel like it’s Vader fighting not Anakin.
I like that they left the movie mistake version. I’ve always loved that intimate force choke. It expresses just how anger he has if he’s willing to watch him slowly die like that
Thanks for making this video. Watching Hayden work his moves in behind-the-scenes 'practice' is just incredible, especially the way he twirls his lightsaber around and blocks attacks even coming from behind him... This content just adds even more awesomeness to watching the finished film _SW III_
Oh man, the idea of Anakin flinging lava is really pretty cool. It could've been a "Oh crap, I didn't think of that" moment for Obi Wan, but he would have been able to deflect it. However, it would also represent how Anakin, in a way, surpassed Obi Wan without a drawn out saber fight.
I wouldn't mind having some of the scenes in there. As great as it showed anakin's desperation, and Obi-Wan's unwillingness to kill him, I still felt something was missing.
The lava deal was a bit goofy.
If only Disney would’ve gave us more when they released the whole collection as the skywalker saga. It would’ve Been amazing to see them go back and add all the great things that were deleted due to budget ect as well as payed for the right to have the enhanced Ben v Vader duel that was put here on RUclips… I know they truly don’t care about the fans and just want there money but dang imagine if fans truly could get what we desire. Like the entitled shits we are. Honestly am glad he kept his blue lightsaber for the duel it felt like it was a good connection to how he was having a difficult time turning fully
there is also a scene on mustafar which Anakin/Vader and obi-wan at some point of their duel had to team up one last time because they encounters an insectoid species so aggresive and fast that none of them alone could get over it so for a brief moment , they have to figth together....
Yeah this part wasn’t filmed though. It’s just concept art
@@StarWarsAnalyst too bad , that would be awsome
@@eerieolie7204 I don't know. I feel like it would kind of break up the pace.
@@TheMountainMan-wz8xf you are probably rigth (95%) But somehow seeing a creature so deadly threathing both of them so much.. dang..
How could people have been disappointed by the duel? It was so good the entire film was marketed around it, and 90% of people or more say it's their favorite duel in the entire franchise.
Though this is an awesome video and I think the duel would've been even better if it kept these scenes!
if you ask me a lot of these ideas got reappropriated for the Kenobi show anyway. Im still happy with the finished film version of the fight, and thats normally how it goes with filmmaking, the sequence is more over stuffed at the beginning in the assembly as they are not sure how much footage they will needed so they make it longer, and trim it down till what they think is the very best bits that ends up in the 20 minutes, they make the best calls they think at the time. But yeah any ideas left on the table like i say can make it into subsequent Star Wars media so its not gone forever :)
Good video, keep up the Good work! ^_^
Also, like you say the bit with the balance beam, Obi wan getting debris thrown at him was more overtop, yeah agreed but there you go its a long sequence and they probably thought do we need a funny bit in the middle to let down the tension? They don't know and its hard to say how far is too far? when they look at it all cut together they can see if its too much and they scale back abit till they feel its the right balance of things.
I could easily think how the gazing scene would have in fact NOT been "creepy." The animatics are just that... animatics meant to provide a 3D mapping of how the scene would play out. The models don't convey the emotion the actors would. So while they're staring intently at each other, Anakin's scowl never falters, but Obi-Wan's would... only briefly, as he realized that the man he raised and cared about is very much trying to kill him. With that realization, Obi-Wan's face would reharden as his resolve to defend himself and defeat this Sith Lord returned.
Now I want to see the full version. Despite it's length I think it would really add some gravity to both characters.
Also Obi Wan has always been a master of the low ground.
Low ground victories were Maul, Grevious and Anakin (When he flipped over him.)
Even ground defeats were Dooku, Dooku rematch, Grevious (until he got the low ground advantage he was getting his ass kicked.), and Darth Vader on the death star.
Lol very true
I like the idea of Anakin's blue kyber crystal begin to bleed and eventually turn red by the end of his duel against Obi-wan, and it would've imo had a much greater impact in representation that Anakin actually did turn to the Dark Side
But then it wouldn't make sense in A New Hope when Obi-wan gives Luke his fathers lightsaber since it's blue.
Ten times better is a hell of a statement when the OG fight is already so good.
Hayden's acting leaves a little something to be desired...but man oh man did he absolutely crush it when it came to the fight choreography!
I especially love 2:54, really shows how Anakin is arrogantly toying with Obiwan, relishing how much more powerful he is in the moment
Just saw Nick’s interview with SWTheory.
Its a shame how rude you’ve been in your dealings with Nick.
Hoping others see that interview and this channel is seen for what it is…a cash grab on someone else’s content.
Nothing is stolen and I NEVER removed any water mark…. He is lying to SWT.
ruclips.net/user/shorts2oOsLUwO0Hw?feature=share
What I said to Nick was absolutely disrespectful, abhorrent, and outright vile. However, it’s important to establish that Nick is leaving out key elements of the story as to why those things were said at all. He’s also adding in some lies (such as that I removed his logo/watermark, which I never did). Nevertheless, there is no excuse for the things that I said to such a hero in the fanbase, but I simply got caught up in my own rage of the moment. Allow me to explain from the very beginning.
My conversation with Nick first began on October 14 when I explained that I like to analyze scenes that were deleted from Star Wars. I asked him if he could share the extended Palpatine vs 4 Jedi footage. I spoke to him with nothing but adoration, praise, and respect.
2 weeks later on November 1st, he shared the very footage that I had asked for, and I sent him another message letting him know how much I appreciated him for doing that. We chatted back and forth a bit, but I didn’t hear back from him again until about a week later.
On November 8th, rather than texting me like usual, he sent me an email cursing at me.
Despite him cursing at me, I was very apologetic, respectful, and even said “If you want me to remove anything or make any changes, please just let me know...”
He didn’t respond to me, so I decided to send him another text message where I told him
“Hopefully you can see man to man, that this was just a misunderstanding. I fully apologize and want you to know that I’m genuinely sorry.
If you’d like me to remove the content, please let me know…”
He NEVER responded to this text message, and I did not hear from him again until 2 months later.
I was more than willing to take down the videos, or make any adjustments, but then in January, I received 6 copyright takedown notifications from Nick. This was when I sent those nasty messages to him.
Was I wrong? Of course I was. There’s no excuse for that amount of disrespect. I was just very upset and overwhelmed about my channel receiving so many copyright strikes when I had specifically told him that I would just remove anything that he wanted me to.
I would like the opportunity to apologize to Nick myself, but naturally, I have since been blocked.
Attached are some text messages and emails that show what really happened from the beginning…👇
ruclips.net/user/shorts2oOsLUwO0Hw?feature=share
@@StarWarsAnalyst He wasn't lying. You were incredibly rude and aggressive. You have issues...
I would pay a lot for a full alternative episode III movie with all the extra ideas they have discarted. The quality of the material they recorded but decide to cut from the original movie is insane
Some of those deleted clips are very impressive. Hayden and the choreographers did a great job. One of my favorite sword fights in cinema is the one at the end of "House of Flying Daggers". The reason being is it's such an emotional scene and you can see it in the choreography. I felt something similar watching some of these deleted clips from ep3.
I don't think there will ever be another star wars actor to put in as much work like Hayden did with the lightsaber. Most actors take the easy route and get a stunt double to do it for them but I love the fact that Hayden took time and effort to do it flawlessly himself.
And honestly it really perplexed me how so many people had so much hate on his portrayal and acting as Anakin. I always thought it was right on point. Anakin was always supposed to be a highly emotional person.. And so many people hated on him saying he acted like a little brat or something.
What perplexes me is the fact that so many people view things in such small minded ways and easily follow the crowd and common and trending perspectives on things...
Sorry I just needed to say that.. But really not sorry 😉 cause it's true.
Facts bro
From the moment i watched the prequals for the first time, I loved Hayden as Anakin. He was-still is-so right for the role. You can feel every emotion coursing through Anakin, you can feel his hurt, his frustration, his confliction, his fear, his arrogance. You know what he's thinking by merely observing his body language. It takes a truly talented actor to pull that off, and not to even mention the sheer dedication that Hayden had for this character.
I can literally not imagine live-action Anakin being played by anyone else. Hayden did it perfectly and he deserved so much more praise than what he got when these movies came out. I'm so glad people are finally recognizing it.
well you screwed up kid, stealing content not cool.
Nothing is stolen and I NEVER removed any water mark…. He is lying to SWT.
ruclips.net/user/shorts2oOsLUwO0Hw?feature=share
What I said to Nick was absolutely disrespectful, abhorrent, and outright vile. However, it’s important to establish that Nick is leaving out key elements of the story as to why those things were said at all. He’s also adding in some lies (such as that I removed his logo/watermark, which I never did). Nevertheless, there is no excuse for the things that I said to such a hero in the fanbase, but I simply got caught up in my own rage of the moment. Allow me to explain from the very beginning.
My conversation with Nick first began on October 14 when I explained that I like to analyze scenes that were deleted from Star Wars. I asked him if he could share the extended Palpatine vs 4 Jedi footage. I spoke to him with nothing but adoration, praise, and respect.
2 weeks later on November 1st, he shared the very footage that I had asked for, and I sent him another message letting him know how much I appreciated him for doing that. We chatted back and forth a bit, but I didn’t hear back from him again until about a week later.
On November 8th, rather than texting me like usual, he sent me an email cursing at me.
Despite him cursing at me, I was very apologetic, respectful, and even said “If you want me to remove anything or make any changes, please just let me know...”
He didn’t respond to me, so I decided to send him another text message where I told him
“Hopefully you can see man to man, that this was just a misunderstanding. I fully apologize and want you to know that I’m genuinely sorry.
If you’d like me to remove the content, please let me know…”
He NEVER responded to this text message, and I did not hear from him again until 2 months later.
I was more than willing to take down the videos, or make any adjustments, but then in January, I received 6 copyright takedown notifications from Nick. This was when I sent those nasty messages to him.
Was I wrong? Of course I was. There’s no excuse for that amount of disrespect. I was just very upset and overwhelmed about my channel receiving so many copyright strikes when I had specifically told him that I would just remove anything that he wanted me to.
I would like the opportunity to apologize to Nick myself, but naturally, I have since been blocked.
Attached are some text messages and emails that show what really happened from the beginning…👇
ruclips.net/user/shorts2oOsLUwO0Hw?feature=share
@@StarWarsAnalyst Then why not take them down and re-establish communication with Nick to sort this out? Your own reply here admits something that you're possibly leaving out, you asked him for the videos to analyze the scenes but did you explicitly request if you could use the videos to post on youtube with your analysis? If you did is this in writing? You gave no credit where the videos came from either. He provided you the videos but under what pretense? Your response above does not indicate that you verbalized or wrote that your intention was to use them publicly.
If I woke up one morning to see a video I owned trending on youtube or getting a million views but I never authorized for it to be released, yeah I'd be pissed too and have every right to verbalize my distaste with you.
Like you said, it sounds like this may be one big misunderstanding but what have you done to rectify it with Nick other than keep the videos up and act like a Child towards him?
I never connected the 2 “I have the high ground” moments and how they paralleled each other. Awesome! I’ve always loved the movies. I always thought Hayden did an amazing portrayal of Anakin. ❤️
This is truly bad ass. Thank you for sharing for all us *true* Star Wars fans!
P.S. 2:56 why did they cut this?!?
This just makes me sad how we’re losing out on all this epicness since George isn’t around 😞
3:49 "It's a little creepy" 🤣 😂
Ok, overall a good take but the last argument was dead on perfect.
Glad you enjoyed
I just love how Hayden did his own stunts here. Each time they show the choreography, he’s always there. This alone makes him a legend.
i whould say, that in that Scene on Mustafar, when Anakin and Obi wan lose ther Lightsaber, and Take then the Lightsaber from ther opponent, that isn't a mistake.
OH MY GOD...
I never realized how Anakin jumping over Obi Wan mirrored what Obi did to Maul in the first movie!
That is such a great detail that makes me appreciate the films even more. Absolutely fantastic
Imagine if this was in the actual movie. This would have been INSANE!!!!!!
I swear so many of these deleted lighsaber duels should have been in the films , the best parts are taken out wtf, great finds, keep up the great work, maybe some of them are over the rtop tho
Wtf am I waiting for
6:19 KENOBI SPOKE LIKE YODA
I've never heard anyone say they were disappointed by that duel.
The real goat is that stunt actor who is doubling for Ewan. He doubled for Sheev too and actually had some sick coreography while dispatching Mace's team.
Can we just take a second to talk about how intimidating Hayden is as Vader in these scenes. He's almost like Michael Myers losing all humanity and feeling from murder and pain that he is endlessly moving
I still remember going to the theater in 8th grade with my dad to see this, all the lightsaber fights blew my mind!
I really wish they kept in some of those scenes where you can see briefly that Anakin is only using one hand to hold his lightsaber while blocking and striking. I know it probably made Kenobi look weaker than he is but I love how arrogant it makes Anakin look like fighting the guy that taught him practically everything he knows is a cake walk.
Who could be disappointed at this duel? I loved it.
It took a long time but it is great he is finally getting the appreciation he deserves. He played the part just as George wanted & was really dedicated to his part.
Who the fuck came out of the movie disappointed with the fight? It was fucking perfect!
This unfinished one is much more aware of the fact that Anakin is infinitely stronger than Obi-Wan, and only lost because of his arrogance. In the duel we got, you could argue that Obi-Wans constant Backfoot is just their different fighting styles, but it’s much less clear.
Because it isn’t true. They were neck and neck. If their ten-minute draw didn’t convince you, I don’t know what will.
@@dhumantorch A draw? You call obi-wan constantly backing up a draw? You’re not even taking the events as a different interpretation, you’re just flat out wrong. The kenobi episode with the anakin vs obiwan mini duel was literally a representation of anakins faults. Anakin beat obi-wan in the duel, but just because he gloated and showed arrogance, Obiwan was able to steal anakins lightsaber and come out on top.
If you really believe that you’re right, go ahead and watch this and see for yourself. ruclips.net/video/B7LAAtKhuYQ/видео.html
George Lucas even said that “anakin was stronger, but obiwan had more experience”. He won by playing on anakins frustrations and anger.
@@7632ios Yeah if we ignore the fact he took a hard swing at anakin while he was down, and anakin barely blocked it. And also that when the large bridge was falling down the lava fall, kenobi jumps to safety, letting anakin risk falling the river. Then yeah, sure, he “didn’t want to kill him”. He didn’t want to, but he sure as hell tried. Nice theory, but no.
I prefer Anakin keeping his original saber. There's something profane about two blue Jedi blades clashing. It adds to the tragedy of it all.
Ewan and Hayden really worked their butts off to get that choreography especially Hayden he did all his dueling scenes while Ewan had a stunt double do some of it every once in awhile
No one was disappointed and this is the longest duel in history
Bro they need to just release "stunt actors the movie" where we just get to watch the Stunt doubles doing their work with all of the special effects that we get in the movie.