the vintera and the american vintage 2 have the same specs it is very difficult to tell them apart. the differences between the two guitars are the nitro varnish and the pickups. everything else is identical, handle, wood, nickel fittings. the micro on the vintera are "custom fat 50" and those of the vintage are "vintage 57" now the question to ask is does the nitro varnish and case justify the £1100 difference. For me it is not justifiable. the vintera is excellent with an impeccable finish, if you want better you will have to go to the custom shop to have real differences.
@@amq1996 if they are rebadged fender fat 50s. fender often do this, especially with the sleeves too, several Mexican strat have US sleeves, but also the fittings (bridge, pickguard, tremolo, etc.) these are the same used on mex and US. in France André duchossoir a historian of the fender brand, he explained the absurdities of fender between the mex and US range.
the vintera and the american vintage 2 have the same specs it is very difficult to tell them apart. the differences between the two guitars are the nitro varnish and the pickups. everything else is identical, handle, wood, nickel fittings. the micro on the vintera are "custom fat 50" and those of the vintage are "vintage 57" now the question to ask is does the nitro varnish and case justify the £1100 difference. For me it is not justifiable. the vintera is excellent with an impeccable finish, if you want better you will have to go to the custom shop to have real differences.
There is a difference, the nitro feels nicer. Pickups are better too. But the difference is small. I’d personally prefer nitro if I had a choice. The poly never ages and when it dings it cracks in a horrible way. Nitro takes the knocks far better and also ages beautifully. I wouldn’t spend €2400 on a guitar with a 7.25 radius and skinny frets though.
I don’t understand the “vintage” thing anymore. Been there and done that. The small frets are a bit of a drag. Why would the average player want to sound like the 1950s? I love Fender guitars but I prefer med jumbo frets or jumbos. Hot, warm pickups, like Texas Specials. There was no distortion in the 50s if you want to be that authentic and the 60s had some terrible sounding fuzz boxes. I think the electric guitar started to sound fantastic in the 70s with high gain amps and good distortion units. Rory Gallagher, Brian May, Lindsey Buckingham, Joe Walsh, Larry Carlton, Steve Lukather, etc. Vintage means old and sounds thin on records. If you were sitting in a room in 1955 with a Strat going through a Fender Bassman then I guess you’d have the real sound. Today the word Vintage is a marketing Strategy that’s been used on gear now for over 30 years simply because it creates nostalgia and a holy grail that’s really non existent. It’s becoming an irritating world just like “digital” when talking about compact discs or other non analog devices!
You named, for example, Rory Gallagher ....RG played a '61 Stratocaster and many of the 70's guitar heroes (Ritchie Blackmore etc.) play original guitars from the 60's and also 50's...
Changes in production, recording, amplification, and live sound are what account for the main differences in tone throughout the decades. The guitars are the least important part of the equation. Personally, I thought Band of Gypsies sounded pretty killer 🤷 But, not everyone likes the same cup of tea.
You’re right. Electric guitars really started sounding good in the 70s. But all the pro musicians were using 50s and 60s made fenders, Gibson’s, Gretch’s, etc.
Why waste time on weight? These things range from 7.5 to 8.5 lbs for the most part. Every one will be different even in the same line. If you want a specific weight find one with that weight. Comparing weight while blindfolded is a waste and doesn’t tell you anything relevant. Also you let them smell it. That invalidated the test as everyone knows that the American has nitro finish and nitro has a distinct smell. So any preconceived notions they had will have been in effect at that point.
Enjoyed the video, but I wish you had raised the Vintera 50's pickups up to the height of the higher output Vintage 57s.
Justified coment!
I just got that same mic up top of the cab in a trade for some stock tele pickups, old school!
Vintera sounds really good tough
the vintera and the american vintage 2 have the same specs it is very difficult to tell them apart.
the differences between the two guitars are the nitro varnish and the pickups. everything else is identical, handle, wood, nickel fittings.
the micro on the vintera are "custom fat 50" and those of the vintage are "vintage 57"
now the question to ask is does the nitro varnish and case justify the £1100 difference.
For me it is not justifiable.
the vintera is excellent with an impeccable finish, if you want better you will have to go to the custom shop to have real differences.
the micros in the vintera are not the fat 50s, are the "Vintage-Style '50s Single-Coil Strat"
@@amq1996 if they are rebadged fender fat 50s.
fender often do this, especially with the sleeves too, several Mexican strat have US sleeves, but also the fittings (bridge, pickguard, tremolo, etc.) these are the same used on mex and US.
in France André duchossoir a historian of the fender brand, he explained the absurdities of fender between the mex and US range.
@@quoimagueule628 wow didnt know that, thanks for the information!
Never heard pickups called micros before...groovy.
Some say he's still smelling that guitar to this day...
Why didnt anyone say ”smells like teen spirit” 🙄
the pickups of the fender us are up from the vintera which are at their lowest.
so obviously the test is wrong
My Vintera is good enough for me. Another 3 grand for a little more bottom end? Er, nah. Use an EQ pedal. Job done!
Not sure what currency you use, but in USD, the vintera is around $900-$1000, American vintage ii is around $2200.
Love this video!
What the hell is wrong me just spent 4 mins watching people sniffing guitars
😂
Great test....!!!
Very usefull. Thanks
The pickups on the AV II were adjusted a lot higher than the pickups on the Vintera, rendering this comparison utterly useless.
someone who plays a strat or even a tele at different price points would tell them apart right away....
the vintera and the american vintage 2 have the same specs it is very difficult to tell them apart. the differences between the two guitars are the nitro varnish and the pickups. everything else is identical, handle, wood, nickel fittings. the micro on the vintera are "custom fat 50" and those of the vintage are "vintage 57" now the question to ask is does the nitro varnish and case justify the £1100 difference. For me it is not justifiable. the vintera is excellent with an impeccable finish, if you want better you will have to go to the custom shop to have real differences.
There is a difference, the nitro feels nicer. Pickups are better too. But the difference is small. I’d personally prefer nitro if I had a choice. The poly never ages and when it dings it cracks in a horrible way. Nitro takes the knocks far better and also ages beautifully. I wouldn’t spend €2400 on a guitar with a 7.25 radius and skinny frets though.
Love it…..👃👃👃👃👃
I don’t understand the “vintage” thing anymore. Been there and done that. The small frets are a bit of a drag. Why would the average player want to sound like the 1950s?
I love Fender guitars but I prefer med jumbo frets or jumbos. Hot, warm pickups, like Texas Specials. There was no distortion in the 50s if you want to be that authentic and the 60s had some terrible sounding fuzz boxes. I think the electric guitar started to sound fantastic in the 70s with high gain amps and good distortion units. Rory Gallagher, Brian May, Lindsey Buckingham, Joe Walsh, Larry Carlton, Steve Lukather, etc.
Vintage means old and sounds thin on records. If you were sitting in a room in 1955 with a Strat going through a Fender Bassman then I guess you’d have the real sound. Today the word Vintage is a marketing Strategy that’s been used on gear now for over 30 years simply because it creates nostalgia and a holy grail that’s really non existent. It’s becoming an irritating world just like “digital” when talking about compact discs or other non analog devices!
You named, for example, Rory Gallagher ....RG played a '61 Stratocaster and many of the 70's guitar heroes (Ritchie Blackmore etc.) play original guitars from the 60's and also 50's...
Changes in production, recording, amplification, and live sound are what account for the main differences in tone throughout the decades. The guitars are the least important part of the equation. Personally, I thought Band of Gypsies sounded pretty killer 🤷
But, not everyone likes the same cup of tea.
You’re right. Electric guitars really started sounding good in the 70s. But all the pro musicians were using 50s and 60s made fenders, Gibson’s, Gretch’s, etc.
These guys you mention were ALL using 60's equipment. Or 50's even, like Joe Walsh. It was just the context of use that changed.
Why waste time on weight? These things range from 7.5 to 8.5 lbs for the most part. Every one will be different even in the same line. If you want a specific weight find one with that weight. Comparing weight while blindfolded is a waste and doesn’t tell you anything relevant.
Also you let them smell it. That invalidated the test as everyone knows that the American has nitro finish and nitro has a distinct smell. So any preconceived notions they had will have been in effect at that point.