@@geloxii i have no idea, but apparently “grass” and “sun rays” are there. I think they might be similar to sliders and arcs, but I’m still very lost within the concept.
Bro this man would only have to swing his right arm and u would alr be on the ground in agonizing pain until all the pain goes away and u see ur body with blood all around it wondering why did u become a robber just to be clapped with one hook
@@SandsVR Really? i beat tempo first try (which to be honest was somewhat of a miracle), but this one is just drains me, the solo at 2 mins is killer. I only beat it on slower song
Never expected something to be more intimidating and mind-numbing than a camellia chart in any rythm game, but DragonForce is clearly the one to make higher BPM songs.
Some yers ago, developers of First usable headset (vive ) relesed article, that due to Beat saber, thay had to reconsider how fast, enough motivated People can move, and rebuild systém that it did not any more consider 10 round swing of wristle per second as error.
i love that dragonforce has fully embraced the fact that their songs end up the final boss of rhythm games, through the fire and flames on guitar hero/rock band, and now they've straight up made this song specifically with beat saber in mind
@@exhaustedallthetimelmao. yeah free bird is somewhat hard in terms of official mapping but comparing it to this is like comparing sacrament to superluminal, unless your bytsey
Literally the other day I was telling my friend I doubt they’d add dragonforce to beat saber because of they’re a heavy metal band and with all the drums in their songs and literally 3 days later we find out I was wrong
Does this count as heavy metal? As someone who listens to deathcore and deathmetal this song seems so jolly and really not heavy at all haha. Crazy that they added it tho youre right
@@SandsVR maybe more just metal than heavy metal but I’d say the amount of drums take over which is why I say it’s heavy metal, i like a bit of deathcore, i don’t listen to it a lot bc I cannot understand anything but it’s pretty good, im more of a heavy scream out kind of guy
@@SandsVR Exactly, people say I look like I listen to country all the time, they are so wrong, I like country for 80s, 70s, and 60s but not the country we get today
Dragonforce is a Power Metal band. Can't really tell you what that entails as I don't know how to describe music very well much less between sub-genres.
Compardd to other songs (e.g. rum n bass from OST 2) which I can do with some faults on expert, this song plays about as hard... But on Normal! My personal goal is to get a full combo on Hard someday, but I am not able to do that on expert or higher.
I did this song on expert a few times and passed it for the first time yesterday, but a few days ago, I selected expert+, I was like “WTH did they create.”
I feel your pain. unfortunately I have way too many hours in the game compared to you probably so dont worry. youll get there eventually if you put enough time in it :)
@@GameabillityDev Yeah I also used to be better at the game but I took a long break playing other games. Maybe like 2 years ago I might've been able to get this one, but I'm not as good anymore
I woke up this morning, check my phone, I see beat saber ost 6 and I get excited. I saw this song and I quite literally put my headset down and just went back to bed because I was so terrified of this song, good job man
Even harder dude you're insane! This has by far the highest nps of any level and beat saber. I gave up as soon as the bullet notes came in (Bullet notes are streams/jumps)
How do people have this good of reaction time, you really were born, not with any athletic, math skills, but purely beat saber skills and I respect it 🔥
@@odditoriumleviathan8725 there isnt really a top player community for discord. all top players are part of the modding community tho. so theres a discord for that (discord.gg/beatsabermods) You can also just find his gameplay on youtube and his scores on scoresaber.com! Its very hard to answer this question theres a lot of places and websites sorry! :)
I thought I was somewhat decent at the game beating ghost and final boss chan several times, but this is on another level. I hope to beat this but it feels hopeless. So insanely impressive though dude, well done!
I beat Lustre and Tempo Katana now. I'm feeling much more confident that I can beat this especially after a few practice runs. We'll see how I do soon.
By the fact that i cant even complete the expert difficulty(but im close) i never thought anybody would fc this in expert+ but of course some psycopath has to do it. Really well done. I have probably never been as impressed as i am rn.
Insane that there’s a dragon force song in a beat saber ost, new it would be difficult, especially after seeing 10.66 but oh my god it was way harder than I expected, don’t think I’ll be beating it soon lol, 2:30-3:00 is just too difficult even at 75% speed
these expert+ maps are literally meant for top players. this has similar mapping to last wish or fallen symphony, or just really fast tech maps in general
Watching this at 2x speed is a valid substitute for going on a drug trip, and actually trying to play it at that speed would require moving like Anxiety in Inside Out 2.
I absolutely love the excitement at the end, im glad im not the only one who reacts like that when i finish a song full combo that I've been working on for a while XD
Damn dude this is crazy. I keep getting closer and closer lol I’m almost there but I’m always too tired by 3:20 and my arms just give out. Great job on the FC!
@@snek_47 Thank you! Im sure youll be able to do it. Try maybe swinging more with wrist and have your arms a bit more loose. Theres no need to hit the notes hard. Thats the only tip i can really give haha. Maybe it will help you save more stamina. Good luck!
Its like that one part before the drop in overkill that we could never do back in the day. Looking back on it, that is $100 bills on easy compared to this.
@@AlexStormDrake these are just how tech maps are. ghost's mapping is not simple, but straightforward. tech maps are basically forcing you to move in ways that you wouldn't normally, but still flow together perfectly
I first watched this dudes Final Boss Chan vid and thought "How the heck do people play this accurately???". Knowing that this same person did an fc on the new song in about an hour fries my brain
just played for first time and near lost my arms in 10 seconds. nostalgia to guitar hero 3 vibes with TTFAF's madd respect to you for this youre INSANEEEEEE
Thanks, seeing it done is what helps me push myself to do better at BS and finally get this one going on E+. Stuck on E. It really doesn't seem that hard now, especially if you watch slowed down a few times.
you fr sliced em all, diced em all and were born to vaporize them all
Thank you! You see theres a lot of cool comments here but I was waiting for something like this. 😂 Pinned :)
Fr dawg
Lmao hilarious
bro completed beat saber @SandsVR
Like expert++
You have now unlocked outside. You may now go feel the well deserved grass and sunrays. Well done soldier
😂😂😂 that's one of the best comments
@@terrorformalsheild2 totally underrated 🤣
Only true Chad's were born with that unlocked.
whats an outside
@@geloxii i have no idea, but apparently “grass” and “sun rays” are there. I think they might be similar to sliders and arcs, but I’m still very lost within the concept.
imagine breaking into this dudes house and he pulls out 2 knives
Or nunchucks
I would give him my money and run for my life 😂
And then he says, Where's dinner? Bc he wants to eat dinner with his two knives
@@HAYDENKISHAYINEW-i8q what level are you on beat saber if you dont mind me asking?
Bro this man would only have to swing his right arm and u would alr be on the ground in agonizing pain until all the pain goes away and u see ur body with blood all around it wondering why did u become a robber just to be clapped with one hook
After this song dropped, I wouldn’t even complain if this was the last ost. It feels like the final boss of beat saber
Just wait until they release the equivalent of a level 31 speed level
I’m waiting from them to add like OST 8 and it’s gonna have a camellia song with like 15nps, 6min long, and like 4000 notes
@@BlazingNick7846Camellia: **aggressive notetaking**
@@NRXMEED challenge levels in ost oh god
poor final boss chan
that visible happiness at the end was so wholesome
to me it looked like he was flipping off the beat saber gods
is it me or is this pushing Expert+ to where it should be it's own new difficulty?
Huh
I know, right?
Yep. Some patterns look a little unreadable here and look more like elements of tech and challenge for some reason
@@ReeksofChees3 this and tempo-katana are both tech maps, but still are expert+ songs. they're just different types of expert+
i mean if people can still full combo this, i'd say nah not yet
Camellia: you took everything from me
Dragonforce: i dont even know who you are
I don't care what anyone else thinks, this is the hardest song in built-in beat saber right now. How you fced this is a mystery to me.
I feel like tempo katana is harder idk
Id say tempo is about equally as hard just cause of that melodic drop near the end. Its horribly hard
i can beat tempo on 75% speed. its the begining thats hard for me. but i cant even get close to beating saber blade.
@@SandsVR Really? i beat tempo first try (which to be honest was somewhat of a miracle), but this one is just drains me, the solo at 2 mins is killer. I only beat it on slower song
@@brienatalie im talking about difficulty to fc mostly. I agree that passing tempo is easier
It’s crazy how the expert on this song is what expert plus used to be
jesus christ that means ex+ isn’t even ex+
Can’t even beat this song on hard😢
@@MillieTheImp i commented on your video
@@guganilson ik
Normal is too easy but i cant beat hard🥲
Every time dragonforce has a chart to a rhythm game you know that shit is gonna be hard. I can feel the pain in my arms.
My fingers still hurt from Guitar Hero 3
I felt like I was dead after I played it and I could only do it on hard and It took my multiple tries.
Never expected something to be more intimidating and mind-numbing than a camellia chart in any rythm game, but DragonForce is clearly the one to make higher BPM songs.
@@treemannick2969image that pain in you arm and wrist that what beat saber is
@@rareshogas8683camellia said on their steam of ost 6 that they would love to do a collab song with dragon force
that last part with the bomb hand clap made it look like a middle finger to those that commented on Beat Saber's official channel begging for OST 6
Lmaoo. I absolutely loved it. I get the joke and also i did that on sightread when practicing. Never actually hit them. Its perfect
@@SandsVR wait, hitting them will not affect the score in any way no? (it will break the full combo yes but
@@_timelike you can hit them, but you’ll get far less than 115s on those lol
@@SandsVRwait what’s the joke? I thought it was just some goofy mapping
@@exhaustedallthetimehow do i find u everywhere lmfao
There should be a difficulty just called "DragonForce" 😂
1:43 when u feel the pain and u have 2 more mins
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You cannot convince me a human is physically capable of this.
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Some yers ago, developers of First usable headset (vive ) relesed article, that due to Beat saber, thay had to reconsider how fast, enough motivated People can move, and rebuild systém that it did not any more consider 10 round swing of wristle per second as error.
This is nothing compared to what top players (Like Sands for example) can do
Guys, camellia has been overthrown. Meet the new hardest beat saber level
Tempo katana lol
I'm not even mad. We got two final boss songs, and the final boss is Dragonforce of all things.
Camellia fanboys crying rn
this is way harder than tempo katana lol@@futuremapper_
Welll no fucking shit
My jaw was DROPPING throughout this video. Mad props to you man, absolutely insane
i love that dragonforce has fully embraced the fact that their songs end up the final boss of rhythm games, through the fire and flames on guitar hero/rock band, and now they've straight up made this song specifically with beat saber in mind
Truly the spiritual successor to the great Guitar Hero 3 challenge of decades past.
the fact that you have full combo’s this the day it released simply shocked, congratulations sands, congratulations
I play expert plus but I still failed miserably on expert. I have massive respect for you
Same here
same i got to 1 minute :(
I mainly play expert + but I could only make 40 seconds on expert +
@@Kozmiqe2to me 40 seconds on this shit is still impressive af 😭
Me to
Gotta love how dragonforce is always the final boss of rhythm games.
Either him or Camellia. 😆
I had just watched a video of the expert version of this level and originally thought that was the expert+. Then I saw this
genuinely an insane score
Thank you :)
wait until you see free bird
@@Luxray_PokéPLEASE tell me you’re trolling
@@exhaustedallthetime nah, free bird has nearly the same amount of blocks as this
@@exhaustedallthetimelmao. yeah free bird is somewhat hard in terms of official mapping but comparing it to this is like comparing sacrament to superluminal, unless your bytsey
Imagine power of the saber blade but with the old beat saber mapping 😳
3:59 when you're holding something too hot
I choked on my soda!
How do you even learn a map like this it’s just unfathomable props to you bro that’s just insane
I just simply played it for an hour and got the full combo. So I dont really know what to say haha. Thank you! :)
Literally the other day I was telling my friend I doubt they’d add dragonforce to beat saber because of they’re a heavy metal band and with all the drums in their songs and literally 3 days later we find out I was wrong
Does this count as heavy metal? As someone who listens to deathcore and deathmetal this song seems so jolly and really not heavy at all haha. Crazy that they added it tho youre right
@@SandsVR maybe more just metal than heavy metal but I’d say the amount of drums take over which is why I say it’s heavy metal, i like a bit of deathcore, i don’t listen to it a lot bc I cannot understand anything but it’s pretty good, im more of a heavy scream out kind of guy
@@jakensmn5615 haha i get you. If i like a deathcore song first thing i do is learn lyrics. Cannot enjoy without :)
@@SandsVR Exactly, people say I look like I listen to country all the time, they are so wrong, I like country for 80s, 70s, and 60s but not the country we get today
Dragonforce is a Power Metal band. Can't really tell you what that entails as I don't know how to describe music very well much less between sub-genres.
No way! This looks hard as hell
at first, i thought it was easy but now i recognize its beyond expert+
yeah, DragonForce has a lot of difficult songs in rhythm games
Compardd to other songs (e.g. rum n bass from OST 2) which I can do with some faults on expert, this song plays about as hard...
But on Normal!
My personal goal is to get a full combo on Hard someday, but I am not able to do that on expert or higher.
I did this song on expert a few times and passed it for the first time yesterday, but a few days ago, I selected expert+, I was like “WTH did they create.”
This song feels like it goes on for ten hours
BRUH I CANT EVEN GET 30 SECONDS INTO THIS SONG 😭 MY ARMS WANNA DIEEEEEE
I feel your pain. unfortunately I have way too many hours in the game compared to you probably so dont worry. youll get there eventually if you put enough time in it :)
might be bc i took a 1 year break cuz my arms were very very hurting from playing it alot@@SandsVR
@@GameabillityDev Yeah I also used to be better at the game but I took a long break playing other games. Maybe like 2 years ago I might've been able to get this one, but I'm not as good anymore
@@SandsVR Ice played the game for like a solid 3-4 years and ice only gotten past like 27 seconds😭 massive respect for you bro
I woke up this morning, check my phone, I see beat saber ost 6 and I get excited. I saw this song and I quite literally put my headset down and just went back to bed because I was so terrified of this song, good job man
2:29 HOW
R E A C H
Even harder dude you're insane! This has by far the highest nps of any level and beat saber. I gave up as soon as the bullet notes came in
(Bullet notes are streams/jumps)
haha thank you!
I love this song. I can't beat it on Expert, but the song itself makes you feel so powerful and I love it.
Update: Thanks to training on Expert POTSB, I am now able to comfortably beat a lot of Camellia songs on Expert. Still working on POTSB.
Update again: I JUST BEAT EXPERT MODE! YAYYYYYYYYY
Dragonforce: "Slice 'em all! Slice 'em all!"
Sands VR: "...And I took that personally."
This ost is tempting me to actually get back into the game and derust. The difference in mapping from ost 1 to now is dramatic.
True its alot more fun the first 2 ost's feel unplayable compared to five and 6
I don't know why I said five and not 5
Damn, those teenage years alone when parents were out have really 'came' in handy here. Jokes aside though, really good work, that was crazy to watch!
Dude lmao that's hilarious 😂
Only my right arm has increased stamina 😢😢😢
@@fewpew5787 nah mate you gotta shake it up a bit and use both 😉
How do people have this good of reaction time, you really were born, not with any athletic, math skills, but purely beat saber skills and I respect it 🔥
I need to see this guy play in person. His arms and wrists must be everywhere.
my wrists completely vaporized watching this. absolutely insane.
Nothing beats the happiness when you finally get to the break after multiple minutes of this and you know you are in the very end
You completed the new fastest Expert + song full combo a mere 2 days after the pack’s release? You have my total respect, bro.
Well you see it was 2 hours after it released not 2 days.
@@SandsVR That’s even more impressive actually.
@@NicholasVetter-sy8io thank you!! :)
@@SandsVRHOW?
Are you sure he's human like what!!!! then again i just returned to playing after years and can only do like 2 expert plus and only expert
You were born to play this game. Full combo on the hardest song in the game with an average of 10.50 note per second. Absolute legend.
This is an absolute achievement on so many levels I haven't even seen fireluke gaming finish it yet. Amazing now put it on 200 percent speed
Umm. No thanks? Xd 200% is death. Even the best speed player was barely able to pass 150%
@@SandsVRCan I ask who that is?
@@odditoriumleviathan8725 bytesy
@@SandsVR is there a discord community that I could find him/ top Beatsaber players in? Sorry to keep poking, just curious.
@@odditoriumleviathan8725 there isnt really a top player community for discord. all top players are part of the modding community tho. so theres a discord for that (discord.gg/beatsabermods) You can also just find his gameplay on youtube and his scores on scoresaber.com! Its very hard to answer this question theres a lot of places and websites sorry! :)
I thought I was somewhat decent at the game beating ghost and final boss chan several times, but this is on another level. I hope to beat this but it feels hopeless. So insanely impressive though dude, well done!
@@fedwin4694 Im sure you'll be able to! Just give it time and practice! :)
I beat Lustre and Tempo Katana now. I'm feeling much more confident that I can beat this especially after a few practice runs. We'll see how I do soon.
Dude absolute mad respect this is unbelievabley unimaginably impossibly impressive
HOW THE HECK DID YOU FULL COMBO?! NICE JOB.
No way, already an FC!?
By the fact that i cant even complete the expert difficulty(but im close) i never thought anybody would fc this in expert+ but of course some psycopath has to do it. Really well done. I have probably never been as impressed as i am rn.
Sands: focusing really hard to get perfect
Me: ooh lights
but cant you agree the lights and decorations in the background look so good
I dont really mind. I usually play with them off as my eyes are sensitive to stuff like this. For the videos sake tho I needed to have them on.
This is pushing the human limit
Not even close lol
Insane that there’s a dragon force song in a beat saber ost, new it would be difficult, especially after seeing 10.66 but oh my god it was way harder than I expected, don’t think I’ll be beating it soon lol, 2:30-3:00 is just too difficult even at 75% speed
Knew*
I think you could consider trying to beat this as a noob "silly suffering"
these expert+ maps are literally meant for top players. this has similar mapping to last wish or fallen symphony, or just really fast tech maps in general
@@genricjohn altrewin mapper moment
@@MeatyMan_BS altrewin and etan must be smoking some top tier shit if they're making maps like this
You’re moving faster than I can react to how insane this is. You finish a crazy section and 2 second later I go “oh wow that wasn’t human”
due ost 6 mapping is fucking INSANE. they got some bangar mappers here, these are fast fucking tech maps
Watching this at 2x speed is a valid substitute for going on a drug trip, and actually trying to play it at that speed would require moving like Anxiety in Inside Out 2.
Bros hitting blocks faster than my Internet speed 💀
I absolutely love the excitement at the end, im glad im not the only one who reacts like that when i finish a song full combo that I've been working on for a while XD
How did he hit the blocks behind each other
I simply swung and hit them.
Damn dude this is crazy. I keep getting closer and closer lol I’m almost there but I’m always too tired by 3:20 and my arms just give out. Great job on the FC!
@@snek_47 Thank you! Im sure youll be able to do it. Try maybe swinging more with wrist and have your arms a bit more loose. Theres no need to hit the notes hard. Thats the only tip i can really give haha. Maybe it will help you save more stamina. Good luck!
"this took me like AN HOUR to FULL COMBO!" saying as if thats a long time wtf
It felt painfully long when you nonstop swing this fast for an hour without pause in the map otherwise it would ruin the video
@@SandsVR thats real but even playing a map for an hour with pausing is a hard task imo
To say your the best at this game is an understatement. This was too impressive man.
This is the new hardest official map in the game by a long shot
With power of the saber blade on expert plus it took me 1.5 years to beat. Way to go on the full combo!
I can do most of this, but 2:28 is always what gets me
Yeah that part sucks so hard. So many misses there when i tried to go for this fc run
I’ve started to get the hang of it but then 2:46 demolishes me
Its like that one part before the drop in overkill that we could never do back in the day. Looking back on it, that is $100 bills on easy compared to this.
Wow. I didn't think you could beat the game, but there you go. You win. Seriously, fantastic job.
I think this is way harder than Ghost.
yes lol. I cant even get past the first sequence on this and I beat ghost numerous times. The patterns are so unintuitive
@@AlexStormDrake these are just how tech maps are. ghost's mapping is not simple, but straightforward. tech maps are basically forcing you to move in ways that you wouldn't normally, but still flow together perfectly
@@genricjohn It feels very odd haha. I can manage this map at 85% speed but with near-deaths everywhere. Just need to practice.
I first watched this dudes Final Boss Chan vid and thought "How the heck do people play this accurately???". Knowing that this same person did an fc on the new song in about an hour fries my brain
How
I feel like my controllers would fall out 1000 times while playing this and what am i looking at rn😭
probs my nightmare💀
my arms stopped moving guys is this normal
yes
Yo, I made it to 2:30 on hard last night! ^w^
Update: I beat it using f-grip! ^w^
how do you play while looking 45° downwards
I just do lmao. Its been my habit for 3 years. I always look down. When i have cam mods i purposly angle my cam like 20 degrees up
OlbmaPhlee looks more downwards than that, it's just an habit
2:13 the lighting is AWESOME!
NOT NORMAL
I swear this needs to be seen by Beat Saber itself... They would be proud of you... 😢❤
this map is impossible to acc
I totally agree. so mad I didnt get that 96 >:(
Just a normal video of sands swinging his sabers at light speed with more precision than a Jedi. You definitely deserve 1 million subs.
Love the spastic celebration at the end. Well fricking done!
Thank you! :) I was just so happy after playing this for an hour nonstop haha
An impossible challenge has been completed by a man going above and beyond to play Beat saber, what a god.
just played for first time and near lost my arms in 10 seconds. nostalgia to guitar hero 3 vibes with TTFAF's madd respect to you for this youre INSANEEEEEE
When I realized he full combo I instantly sub
This is just insane! FC on this map that soon after release is so impressive
This map came out 5 hours ago, AND YOUR TELLING ME THAT THIS WAS ALREADY FULL COMBO'D????. Fokin hell.
bro is built different. I only just finally beat spin eternally on expert+. (Im still very proud of myself)
I'll tell you what, that's some pure dedication. I can only just do it on normal, never-ending EXPERT+!
Thanks, seeing it done is what helps me push myself to do better at BS and finally get this one going on E+. Stuck on E. It really doesn't seem that hard now, especially if you watch slowed down a few times.
I can beat this on expert but seeing someone fc this is like insane. Massive congrats dude 😎🏆
Bro you are so good at this game, you deserve a medal or something😂
3:23 my favorite part
One of the few times if not the only time that another artist has a harder beat saber OST song than Camellia.
FULL COMBO, HOLY HOLY
DUDE......
THAT WAS CRAZY
this makes ghost look easy
People like him are so good that they need to add a expert++
2:28 That there is the reason i can't beat this, today.
The perfect video that I haven’t heard of doesn’t exi-
This is a true test of endurance and willpower, and you passed with flying colors.
this dude took Beat Saber to a whoooole different level. congrats bro
YOU KILLED THIS OH MY GOD
I stopped playing beat saber around when cycle hit was the harsest song because my vr died, and now i recently came back to be greeted by this song