Question of the day: What tool do you use to cut steel? Would you like to see the Steel Demon tested on something else? What are your thoughts on the performance of this blade?
I was a little worried about installing the blade after reading a couple of reviews. But it was amazingly easy. Took about 1 minute. Works great ruclips.net/user/postUgkxjpBI8OOeUXib_iT7UomCrQ-uauwZJ62c . Cuts easily and is perfect for pocket cuts I needed to make for replacing some old deck boards.
I’ve been using one for a few months now on and off like you have. Cut everything from angle to square to flat stock from 16ga all the way up to 3/8”. I was skeptical to say the least, but this blade has exceeded my expectations! I would highly recommend.
Im thinking about trying this out. Have you noticed any unusual wear on your saw because of cutting steel with it? Any gouges in the table or steel dust packed up in the guard? I would like to give this a try but im curious to know if i can use it in my nice cordless that i use as my primary go-to saw or if i should relegate an old backup saw for cutting steel.
Mark Doumert, nothing unusual. I do have a plastic chute for the dust that does start to get hot on long and thick cuts. I run this on a spare saw that I’ve never been happy with anyway, so if it dies, so be it. So far everything’s been working great!
I just learning how to weld and did not want buy a dedicated chop saw, or use a grinding disk for cutting steel. I will have one on the way. $30 or so is a game changer. May turn one of my circular saws into a chop saw now, not that i have to have one. Its easy enough to cut steel the normal way with this blade. Thank You.
I'm in the exact same boat ccdirectt, and was going to go with the Evolution saw. Now I think I'll just get an old treadmill motor, and make my own with the Diablo blade. Win-Win-WIn.
I'm a contractor for 30 years. I would have never thought of trying to cut steel without using a cut off blade. That's crazy! I've never had a need to cut steel though
As someone who steel frames for a living. I believe I have the right experience to help you with this blade. Yes it will cut heavy steal. However DO NOT use on light gauge studs and track. These blades hate vibration of any kind. There fantastic on heavier gauge metals. But, they do not like the returns and flanges on light gauge metals. I do not recommend using it on 14 gauge or thinner.
@@philsla if your reffering to like 16 ga decking, or that matel roof material then, then the answer is yes. I've used it to rip those type materials. But cross cut it worked fine however the blade didn't have enough depth of cut to make it through the materials. I'm sure it will do fine on roof top tin though.
I’ve only used it on structural 16g and never had any issues cutting the returns or flanges. But good to know about issues with lighter gauge studs. Definitely saved me a headache or 2. Good lookin out brother🤙
I’ve used them on light gauge studs quite successfully for years. You just have to support your work better so that it doesn’t vibrate. You also I have to avoid letting the blade get pinched by your material. Pinching the blade will knock your teeth off quite quickly.
i made a rip cut for my log splitter and made the mistake of stopping as the kerf closed up and the blade locked in place. i had to jame a screwdriver in the kerf to free the blade but not without leaving a tooth or so behind. these are great blades and leave a mirror finish, amazing
This blade changed the game for me as a Framer. I started my career as a traditional carpenter, first framing houses doing peice work, then framing and general construction on commercial projects when I joined the Union. Work for “Framers” eventually became extremely scarce and most guys I worked with, made the choice to do concrete form work since there was always a demand. I however, hate the monotony of concrete work, so I opted to switch to metal framing and drywall. I was so used to grabbing for my skill-saw to make cuts, and had to get used to always cutting on chop saws. This is fine but there a pain in the ass to carry and take time setup then move and setup again multiple times a day. This blade allowed me to use a skillsaw again to make all my cuts, and it’s made my productivity better and my job so much easier. Thank you DIABLO.
The company I work for does a lot of metal framing. The circular saw we prefer is a Milwaukee 6370-21. This saw is made for cutting metal. It contains the chips much better than a regular circular saw and therefore is much safer. We have cut anything between 25 gauge studs all the way up to half inch steel. If you do a lot of metal framing you should look into it.
I have one for my 14” saw. It works very well. I’ve made a lot of cuts with it. Even cutting some aluminum sometimes because I was too lazy to change the blade for one or two cuts, and then change it back again. But I don’t recommend that on a regular basis because the tooth shape captures the sticky aluminum, and then you have to spend time cleaning it off each tooth. I was wary about buying it at first because it costs half of what an Evolution or Fein stainless blade costs, which is around $135 for the 14” size.
markthomasbuilder it’s the same problem for my mills and lathes. Aluminum is sticky. It smears and almost brazes itself to the metal. Aluminum cutting tools have a tooth shape that flings the metal off before it builds up, though some thin cutting fluid is still a good idea. Even some WD-40 works to prevent it from sticking.
Ok, forget the chop saw I was gonna get, I'm getting one of these blades. Home Depot website says max rpm is 5800 and it's compatible with any corded or cordless circular saw. Great video, thanks! 👍
The Recip. blades have finally come in here in Canada and if the circular blades work as well as these ones , i'm sold ! This thing works awesome sliced through bed rail frame (tempered angle iron) like a hot knife through butter and didn't even notice the cold rolled !
@@MarkThomasBuilder The circulars are special order still but hopefully in by Christmas and yep i checked one out on the long weekend at a friends place , we sliced up 20 inch corrugated galvanized for a lane way culvert , amazing ! Like it was cardboard ! Thanks so much for the heads up on these they are going to be very handy next year !
I bought one of these based on this review. It worked great for about 6ft in 1/8 inch mild steel and then became dull and won't cut further. Defective blade? I don't know, but it doesn't seem to work as advertised.
I remember seeing this blade for the first time. It was at a event with Diablo there demonstrating it. I couldn't wait to get my very own. I now keep it in my electric saw, dedicated for steel cutting.
I was wondering for the rapid planned disassembly of equipment to remove it from tight spaces. I figure they rate it for up to 1/2" steel plate, so 14-20ga (5/64-3/80") should be quick work.
That thing cuts that 3/8 plate as fast as my skillsaw cuts 3/4 plywood. I've been looking at chop saws and possible blades to put in my miter saw 10", but the blades are too expensive for experimental use, lol and a new chopsaw is 242 dollars, so I'm buying that blade. because I know if you clamp a straight edge and hold the base of a skillsaw against it, you can make some long perfect cuts on ply wood, so yeah I'm pretty sure I can do what I want with a skill saw with that blade. Thanks for making this video, you just helped figure out how I'm going to go about cutting steel for now at least.
I can't guarantee how long the blade will last, but for only $30, you can cut a lot of steel. It also cuts it nice and clean and not too hot like an abrasive blade does. Glad to help!
I use em in my special rpm chopsaw. Longer life if you cut across the short edge instead of long edge. IE: stand the strap on edge, angle iron with the point up, square tubing in like a diamond, etc.
This saw blade as you see if you are not perfectly running the saw blade straight which with these blade are hard to control with a power saw can wear one side more that the other. Which after that happens, will pull to the saw blade to the sharper side. Also if the blades aren’t tensioned properly, which can happen quite a lot with mass production. The blades can collapse which create a wobble.
Best thing for cutting steel ever made. Combined with dewalt battery skill saw I built an entire expedition truck on a unimog. I cut I beams. I cut every piece of flatbar, steel bars, threaded rods, everything. I built a deck that slides out the side, cut all the steel box section and aluminium checker plate. Blade has seen better days but it still cuts small things, just uses alot of battery. I will be buying another
I have Makitas Metal Cuttinh Saw (5.5 inch), with the carbide blade. And just bought this blade for the rare occasions when I need a deeper cut (angled cuts) so I can use my Makita 7 1/4 inch saw.
Absolutely love the ROCKWELL JAWHORSE! I have three of them. One of my most useful devices. Well worth whatever they cost. Be sure to get at least a pair. Totally portable to use for projects ANYWHERE.
Couldn't agree more. I only have 1, but really could use another. I have a vise that mounts into my truck hitch, however I never use it anymore after getting the Jawhorse.
WOrked great for me! Made three cuts on 1/8" (?) steel from a surround of my fireplace insert. Wish I could put up pics because it came out great! A lot better than buying a custom surround for several hundred dollars!
Careful with the rpms. Use recommended only, or teeth will sheer and produce flying projectiles. Severe risk of blade splintering when used improperly. Always wear face shield and gloves, even when using properly. Safety first
Thanks for the follow up review! Just as an FYI tip, I bought a Skill worm drive saw at Habitat For Humanity's ReStore, the thrift store they operate, for $25 and something like that with the Diablo saw blade left on it would make a great saw for metal projects.
For alota cutting I recommend to get a 8” milwalkee metal circular saw with diablo blades keeps from chipps flying on ya and a slower higher torque saw making it easier on the blades
Good idea! I was just looking at that saw again and it looks like the best option. I don't cut a lot of steel, so this Diablo blade works well for me. Safety glasses and a respirator are a good idea.
markthomasbuilder nothing wrong with the way you do it but the Milwaukee version is a real time saver in the steel fabrication world that would be the first saw I recommend to anyone id take that over a plasma cutter cause ive cut up to 1”plate and no prep is required to weld don’t know why so few steel fabricators use it maybe its not a traditional tool but sure works good only down side is its loud and blades are pricy compared to plasma consumables
@@mesh1248 we use those Milwaukee 8 inch size at work. Mostly for cutting metal studs. We do a lot of other metal cutting with them and they are fantastic. We use a commercial duty blade that is even better than the Diablo. It is made by Morse.
How often do you use it? How many cuts do you make with it in that 6 month time period? Do you cut sheet materials like 1/8-3/16 steel diamond plate continuous 4'-8' cuts? We need a review of durability and longevity. We also need a comparison between the Diablo steel demon and Evolution steel cutting blades.
I was talking with a Diablo product manager last week about this Steel Demon blade. He said the blade has gone though a few upgrades since I made this video. Great suggestions for a future video.
Without knowing how many linear feet you have cut and at what thickness (assuming it is the same type of steel throughout) I can't judge the durability. If you added an estimate of that, it would be helpful. Thanks!
First time viewing a review by you. Nice review of the Diablo. Professional in your presentation and delivery. I had only seen one other intro to the Diablo blade and was turned off by the poor use of a t-shirt with a swear word on it. I’ll be following you. Thank You!
I don't understand what makes the different metals harder to cut. Cast iron is harder to cut than steel which I don't understand. The Diablo 14" metal chop saw blade doesn't cut cast iron at all. I hope I can return it, it was $85+ seems like.
I was asking questions on 7" circ saw cutoffs vs the steel demon and this demo clearly shows how much better and way faster the steel demon is.. Im definately gona get one for the rare times I cut metal.. I have carbide metal diablo recip blades but this will fit nicely and do better than my 7" cutoff blade. Especially at. Times when I have saw dust on thw garage floor and dont need sparks to light up my saw dust tinder pile
Hi Mark, just found your channel when searching for info on a blade to cut steel - awesome! Please add a link for that neat Rockwell "clamp bench"? that you're using in video. Thx!
No doubt the older, used one is somewhat slower. However it still is almost as quick, nice cuts, and pretty cheap all things considered. At least you don't have a lot of the abrasive stuff flying around making a mess.
To me it seemed like the new blade struggled just a little on that 3/8 plate than the used one. Anyway, I ordered a 14 inch diablo blade for my Milwaukee chop saw. Can’t wait to try it
I've heard that you're not supposed to cut steel (angle iron) with a miter saw or a circular saw even with a TCT (tungsten carbide tip) saw because the RPM (3000 - 5000) is too fast and generates too much heat for steel. But a cold cut chop saw spins slower around 900-1500 RPM, so that's why it's the proper tool to use for cutting steel. Is this true?
I've been to a few events where the Diablo company showed their blades in a circular saw, so I'm sure they would be using them in tools rated for their blades. Their medium steel blade is rated for up to 5,800 rpms.
From what I’ve read elsewhere, it really depends on the number of teeth and their shape. I *think* that it’s easier to make a metal cutting blade if it runs slower. Diablo has to put a lot of design work into making a blade that runs fast. Your choices of fast spinning metal blades are quite limited vs slow ones.
Time does not wear out a blade. The number of cuts and what you cut does. So how many cuts have you put on this blade in the last 6 months and on what gauge of steel ?
It's hard for me to say, I've done occasional cuts with this on with on steel that's 1/4" and down. I even leave this blade it in the saw for convenience. I have another saw for cutting wood.
I was excited when I found the blade to use on my 12" miter saw but really disappointed when I saw that for that size you can go only to 1800 rpm so it is a no go for me. I don't want the carbide bits flying all over the place for running the blade at 3800 rpm. I do use a Diablo cut off blade but have to go slower...
I noticed you didn't say how many cuts was on the old blade. I've used these things for a while. I went back to the abrasive. Tried several brands.They all average about twenty to twenty five cuts And they're done. So when you break it down how much does it cost per cut the abrasive is cheaper. Harbor freight sells a hercules brand six inch. You're just trying to sell a product responsible by.
Good follow up review. Thanks. Any benefit from dabbing cutting oil on the cut line? Several of the online Diablo Cermet blade buyer reviews mentioned the great performance at first, but then cutting ability suddenly dropped. Care to speculate on what may have happened?
I'm guessing they only have a limited life. For occasional use, these seem to last a long time and give nice clean cuts. I haven't heard about what cutting oil will do for extending the life, but it certainly couldn't hurt.
Yes, the Steel Demon isn't made for wood. The wood/metal blade works well for demo work like cutting nails in a 2x4, but seems to cut a little slow if you're just using it on wood.
goodday sir, thank you for the update about ur diablo blade. how about the performance of diablo wood and metal blade of diablo? it is also good in a long way using it? thank you, and Godbless.
Either I wore my Steel Demo blade out cutting up stainless or my corded circular saws won't push the blade. I was using an a Makita Magnesium 7 1/4 and the blade was stopping when trying to cut through thick tubular steel. My question is do you think the saw didn't have enough rpms or did I dull the blade previously? When cutting the stainless I used a Milwaukee Fuel corldless double battery saw. 7 1/4".
Not many people know that the diablo blades are rated for 1800max rpm and the circular saw are running much much faster than that. The Diablo blades won’t last long. They will work ,but not very long.. just keep that in mind..
was it used over that 6 months? im pretty confident any saw blade will hold up sitting idle in the garage.. how about a video showing blade life in say 1/4" plate from new to no longer cutting how many linear feet do you get
Hi Mr I'm a subscriber and love your vids. .. What about this saw with table saw. .specially with the Dewalt cordless table saw? And I'm wondering why you don't use this blade with your flexvolt table saw? Also I'm trying to understand if can cut wood with nails with this blade so I'll not have to buy the 36 teeth blade? What do you think ?
Here is my question. Do I buy the blade made for steel or the blade made for non ferrous? Will the steel blade work for both materials? I will be making cutting aluminum.
That's a good question. I use it for steel and haven't looked into cutting aluminum. My recommendation is to ask the question on the Home Depot website. Diablo themselves will likely answer the question.
Don’t use a steel blade on non-ferrous materials. Molten Aluminum can adhere to the blade and cause it to go out of balance, which can be very dangerous. It will also ruin your blade. Similarly, steel will destroy a non-ferrous blade. Right tool for the right job
@@Texsrt4 do you have any idea what we are talking about here? They make carbide steel saw blades that are designed to cut both non ferrous and ferrous. There is no molton aluminium to speak of. Do a search for frued non ferrous saw blade
Travis k do you know what ferrous and non-ferrous means? If the blade says ferrous and non-ferrous, you can use it on both materials. If it specifies one, use it on the one specified. I provided the reason why. And FYI, if there are sparks, the metal is molten. That’s what sparks are, superheated metal
I watched someone else cut metal with that type of thickness. It was a 2 day job and ended up using the blade up. I'm not sure if they pushed the blade too hard or not, but it got the job done.
I can tell you that I know for a fact you're not doing heavy cutting day in and day out with this blade. The red paint is still as vibrant as that new one where it would be rubbed and scratched from cuts done with it. I know this because I have used this blade and I know what it looks like after do 25 cuts with this blade in a day back to back to back. I also know you won't be getting more than 35 cuts on a 5800 rpm saw with this blade. Spend your money on diamond blade.
That is correct, I'm doing off and on cutting with it. It's held up well for occasional use. I've also seen this blade used hard all day long and lasted only a few days, so it probably had 25-30 cuts on it before wearing out.
Is the saw with which you cut the metal intended for cutting wood? I'm not talking about the blade! In addition I would love to know a recommended (cheap) model and what is the RPM of the saw? Thank you ! Looking forward to your response !
That is a neat vise! Been using the 14” cutting 2 7/8 and 3 1/2” oilfield tubing. Works well. I will have to try these. Is that a regular speed hand saw?
@@MarkThomasBuilder same here I bought one of those blades and drug my old skill saw (5400rpm) out of the closet and have been cutting 1/4 steel plate, and it don't slow down, unbelievable!
I've got a 6.5" 18v makita saw. I'm just a home hobbyist and plan on it lasting forever, essentially. I'm a little reluctant to use it for steel like this. Considering finding a used, corded saw to designate for steel. Are my concerns valid?
You can probably pick up a cheap used circular saw to just keep a metal blade in. I don't run many corded tools anymore, so I now keep the Diablo blade in my corded cir saw.
I understand that you had the blade for six months, but how many cuts during that time? It could have 3 or 50..I will be getting one for my Skil saw forwelding projects. Thank you for the video.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used plasma cutter?! My Diablo blade will be here tomorrow, can't wait. Seeing this cut of the 3/8" plate, I can't believe I have wasted a lot of ox/acy, cut off/grinder wheels, and waited while my band saw cut steel. A lifelong carpenter, seeing it contact steel made me cringe initially, but damn it sure seems to cut great, almost too good to be true.
@@AndrewBrowner My comment was made somewhat tongue in cheek. The plasma is NOT for sale! BUT, until I see how long the Diablo blades lasts, maybe not. Of course the D blade can't cut curves and circles like my plasma. But the plasma does use consumable tips, and takes my big shop air compressor also, whereas I can can just pick up my worm gear saw and make a quick cut. My band saw has it's place in the show also, but again, most times the D blade is quicker and simpler to use.
Unfortunately, based on the reviews from Home Depot, where many people complained about the short life span of this blade, I am reluctant to pay the $30. I might as well save $400 to get a Milwaukee M18 metal cutting saw, which comes with a much better blade. I have seven Diablo's 12-inch steel demon reciprocal saw blades, which are the best in the market, but their circular saw metal cutting blades have a long way to go.
It depends on how much steel you're cutting. I use my Diablo blade for small steel cutting projects here and there and it does a great job. The Milwaukee saw looks nice too, especially if you're cutting steel often.
I didn't get what you were trying to prove did you use it for 6 month because you can keep a blind for 10 years and use it and will still work Or did use the blood every day for 6 months??
Here's link to my video review of it that has affiliate links in the description. It's a great tool, one of my daily use items... ruclips.net/video/SKN8t1jBdr8/видео.html
I haven't tried a regular framing carbide blade on thick steel like this. I know the Diablo Steel Demon has special properties such as ceramic and metallic teeth, made for this type of work.
I definitely do a lot morewood work than metal work. I'm happy with the way the blade has held up for occasional use. I have another saw that I keep for woodworking and this saw exclusively for metal work.
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Question of the day: What tool do you use to cut steel? Would you like to see the Steel Demon tested on something else? What are your thoughts on the performance of this blade?
If i'm cutting sheet or plate I break out the plasma cutter!
Like to see it in a wood style miter saw. Would be a versitile way to have a do all saw
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Sheet metal- angle grinder
Thicker metal propane/oxygen torch
cordless skillsaws will also cut steel like butter
I was a little worried about installing the blade after reading a couple of reviews. But it was amazingly easy. Took about 1 minute. Works great ruclips.net/user/postUgkxjpBI8OOeUXib_iT7UomCrQ-uauwZJ62c . Cuts easily and is perfect for pocket cuts I needed to make for replacing some old deck boards.
That’s pretty impressive. I’ve been contemplating trying the Diablo stuff, I’m sold. Thank you.
I always hear good thing when people talk about Diablo blades.
I just bought one of these last week and used it to cut up two forklift forks. Unbelievable that it works as well as it does.
Wow, that's some serious cutting!
Just did several long cuts on 1/2 plate with this blade.....SUPER CLEAN CUTS and FAST!
Great to hear that! I've had some mixed comments in the video description and it's good to hear others with a positive experience like I've had.
I’ve been using one for a few months now on and off like you have. Cut everything from angle to square to flat stock from 16ga all the way up to 3/8”. I was skeptical to say the least, but this blade has exceeded my expectations! I would highly recommend.
Im thinking about trying this out. Have you noticed any unusual wear on your saw because of cutting steel with it? Any gouges in the table or steel dust packed up in the guard? I would like to give this a try but im curious to know if i can use it in my nice cordless that i use as my primary go-to saw or if i should relegate an old backup saw for cutting steel.
Mark Doumert, nothing unusual. I do have a plastic chute for the dust that does start to get hot on long and thick cuts. I run this on a spare saw that I’ve never been happy with anyway, so if it dies, so be it. So far everything’s been working great!
I just learning how to weld and did not want buy a dedicated chop saw, or use a grinding disk for cutting steel. I will have one on the way. $30 or so is a game changer. May turn one of my circular saws into a chop saw now, not that i have to have one. Its easy enough to cut steel the normal way with this blade. Thank You.
I remember when I first seen this blade on display. I couldn't wait to get my hands on it. It's a game changer all right.
I'm in the exact same boat ccdirectt, and was going to go with the Evolution saw. Now I think I'll just get an old treadmill motor, and make my own with the Diablo blade. Win-Win-WIn.
I'm a contractor for 30 years. I would have never thought of trying to cut steel without using a cut off blade. That's crazy! I've never had a need to cut steel though
You may find more project around the house once you get this blade.
Woah! New blade cut the big plate in about 11 seconds, old blade cut it in almost the same amount of time.. that’s quality for ya!!
Yes, Diable makes some amazing blades!
As someone who steel frames for a living. I believe I have the right experience to help you with this blade. Yes it will cut heavy steal. However DO NOT use on light gauge studs and track. These blades hate vibration of any kind. There fantastic on heavier gauge metals. But, they do not like the returns and flanges on light gauge metals. I do not recommend using it on 14 gauge or thinner.
I haven't tried them on steel studs. I could see them being an issue. Thanks for the info.
Would it be good for steel roof panels?
@@philsla if your reffering to like 16 ga decking, or that matel roof material then, then the answer is yes. I've used it to rip those type materials. But cross cut it worked fine however the blade didn't have enough depth of cut to make it through the materials. I'm sure it will do fine on roof top tin though.
I’ve only used it on structural 16g and never had any issues cutting the returns or flanges. But good to know about issues with lighter gauge studs. Definitely saved me a headache or 2. Good lookin out brother🤙
I’ve used them on light gauge studs quite successfully for years. You just have to support your work better so that it doesn’t vibrate. You also I have to avoid letting the blade get pinched by your material. Pinching the blade will knock your teeth off quite quickly.
i made a rip cut for my log splitter and made the mistake of stopping as the kerf closed up and the blade locked in place. i had to jame a screwdriver in the kerf to free the blade but not without leaving a tooth or so behind. these are great blades and leave a mirror finish, amazing
Yes, the finish they leave behind is amazing. I'll have to remember to not ever get it pinched while using.
Wow! Just ordered a couple for myself. Just as quick as a torch it looks like.
It does an amazing job and the other great thing is the steel doesn't get too hot to handle.
@@MarkThomasBuilder Quicker then a torch it seemed to me, and no slag to chip off, and no heat build up.
Great vid, thanks for sharing!!! Can't wait until Monday to get one at Kms tools!!! Cheers from Alberta!
Thank you, cheers!
When is a review not a review/ When responders say I need that...great review...or ask questions.
Hopefully this answered all your questions about it's performance?
This blade changed the game for me as a Framer. I started my career as a traditional carpenter, first framing houses doing peice work, then framing and general construction on commercial projects when I joined the Union. Work for “Framers” eventually became extremely scarce and most guys I worked with, made the choice to do concrete form work since there was always a demand. I however, hate the monotony of concrete work, so I opted to switch to metal framing and drywall. I was so used to grabbing for my skill-saw to make cuts, and had to get used to always cutting on chop saws. This is fine but there a pain in the ass to carry and take time setup then move and setup again multiple times a day. This blade allowed me to use a skillsaw again to make all my cuts, and it’s made my productivity better and my job so much easier. Thank you DIABLO.
Great story! This is an amazing blade that I always keep ready to go in my circ saw. It's quick and easy to do some metal cutting.
The company I work for does a lot of metal framing. The circular saw we prefer is a Milwaukee 6370-21. This saw is made for cutting metal. It contains the chips much better than a regular circular saw and therefore is much safer. We have cut anything between 25 gauge studs all the way up to half inch steel.
If you do a lot of metal framing you should look into it.
I have one for my 14” saw. It works very well. I’ve made a lot of cuts with it. Even cutting some aluminum sometimes because I was too lazy to change the blade for one or two cuts, and then change it back again. But I don’t recommend that on a regular basis because the tooth shape captures the sticky aluminum, and then you have to spend time cleaning it off each tooth.
I was wary about buying it at first because it costs half of what an Evolution or Fein stainless blade costs, which is around $135 for the 14” size.
I didn't realize that aluminum does that. Thanks for posting.
markthomasbuilder it’s the same problem for my mills and lathes. Aluminum is sticky. It smears and almost brazes itself to the metal. Aluminum cutting tools have a tooth shape that flings the metal off before it builds up, though some thin cutting fluid is still a good idea. Even some WD-40 works to prevent it from sticking.
That's good to know, thanks for the info!
@@MarkThomasBuilder aren't the 14" blade designed for around 1500rpm? Will one if these work fine on my 3600rmp chop saw??
@@JonJon501 probably not. They make cold cut chop saws with a slower rpm for these blades. I think the higher rpm would wear it out quicker
Thanks for the review. This was impressive. Much better than the abrasive discs for circular saws
Yes, this is s much faster than an abrasive blade. It cuts nice and clean too.
Ok, forget the chop saw I was gonna get, I'm getting one of these blades. Home Depot website says max rpm is 5800 and it's compatible with any corded or cordless circular saw. Great video, thanks! 👍
Right on! 🙌
Now I'm going to have to get some for my circular saw , I use diablo for my sawzaw and they work great
It a great solution for cutting metal.
i can't believe it! i am going out and buying it. Thanks so much
Haha, I had the same reaction after seeing it demonstrated. I now have it in an older saw, dedicated for cutting steel.
The Recip. blades have finally come in here in Canada and if the circular blades work as well as these ones , i'm sold ! This thing works awesome sliced through bed rail frame (tempered angle iron) like a hot knife through butter and didn't even notice the cold rolled !
I didn't realize Canada did have those yet. The circular blade cuts clean and the metal never gets too hot to touch after.
@@MarkThomasBuilder The circulars are special order still but hopefully in by Christmas and yep i checked one out on the long weekend at a friends place , we sliced up 20 inch corrugated galvanized for a lane way culvert , amazing ! Like it was cardboard ! Thanks so much for the heads up on these they are going to be very handy next year !
I bought one of these based on this review. It worked great for about 6ft in 1/8 inch mild steel and then became dull and won't cut further. Defective blade? I don't know, but it doesn't seem to work as advertised.
You should definitely get more use than that. I don't make any long rip cuts, but shorter cuts on occasion and it holds up well.
Thank you for your quick reply
You bet!
Straight forward. Great video.
I just saw a video on this blade this morning and couldn’t believe it I still don’t but I ordered one this morning, this is crazy
I remember seeing this blade for the first time. It was at a event with Diablo there demonstrating it. I couldn't wait to get my very own. I now keep it in my electric saw, dedicated for steel cutting.
We bought this blade for use on steel siding. Lasted 2 days about 100 cuts.
Humm, I haven't tried it on siding. How many total cuts would you say your job was?
Wow. That cut through pretty quick. I was worried about using this blade to cut through 18g stainless but I think it will do fine.
Right on
I was wondering for the rapid planned disassembly of equipment to remove it from tight spaces. I figure they rate it for up to 1/2" steel plate, so 14-20ga (5/64-3/80") should be quick work.
That thing cuts that 3/8 plate as fast as my skillsaw cuts 3/4 plywood. I've been looking at chop saws and possible blades to put in my miter saw 10", but the blades are too expensive for experimental use, lol and a new chopsaw is 242 dollars, so I'm buying that blade. because I know if you clamp a straight edge and hold the base of a skillsaw against it, you can make some long perfect cuts on ply wood, so yeah I'm pretty sure I can do what I want with a skill saw with that blade. Thanks for making this video, you just helped figure out how I'm going to go about cutting steel for now at least.
I can't guarantee how long the blade will last, but for only $30, you can cut a lot of steel. It also cuts it nice and clean and not too hot like an abrasive blade does. Glad to help!
Thanks,nice review
Thanks for watching!
More then a little bit impressed! Thanks for taking the time to show this video
I remember seeing this blade for the first time a year and a half ago. It's so amazing to see it cut steel!
I use em in my special rpm chopsaw. Longer life if you cut across the short edge instead of long edge. IE: stand the strap on edge, angle iron with the point up, square tubing in like a diamond, etc.
Thanks, glad to hear it's working out in that capacity too.
This saw blade as you see if you are not perfectly running the saw blade straight which with these blade are hard to control with a power saw can wear one side more that the other. Which after that happens, will pull to the saw blade to the sharper side. Also if the blades aren’t tensioned properly, which can happen quite a lot with mass production. The blades can collapse which create a wobble.
Huh, I haven't experienced a wobble yet, but that's a good point you made.
Huh ? Saw blade wobble, You will one day, then this will makes sense my friend
Thanks for posting this .. just the review I was looking for .!
Glad I could help!
So I bought this blade and after 30 cuts it got dull. I was able to ReSharpen it with a Dremel and Stone wheel at high rpm.. cuts just like new!
Best thing for cutting steel ever made.
Combined with dewalt battery skill saw I built an entire expedition truck on a unimog. I cut I beams. I cut every piece of flatbar, steel bars, threaded rods, everything. I built a deck that slides out the side, cut all the steel box section and aluminium checker plate. Blade has seen better days but it still cuts small things, just uses alot of battery.
I will be buying another
Ever since I found the steel demon, I keep a separate saw with only that blade on it. Diablo makes the best blades hands Down.
Same here, lol. My electric saw has the Steel Demon and my battery powered saw has the Demo Demon.
Just a regular circular saw? Or you need a special saw?
Impressive! 👍
Definitely is!
I have Makitas Metal Cuttinh Saw (5.5 inch), with the carbide blade. And just bought this blade for the rare occasions when I need a deeper cut (angled cuts) so I can use my Makita 7 1/4 inch saw.
Absolutely love the ROCKWELL JAWHORSE! I have three of them. One of my most useful devices. Well worth whatever they cost. Be sure to get at least a pair. Totally portable to use for projects ANYWHERE.
Couldn't agree more. I only have 1, but really could use another. I have a vise that mounts into my truck hitch, however I never use it anymore after getting the Jawhorse.
WOrked great for me! Made three cuts on 1/8" (?) steel from a surround of my fireplace insert. Wish I could put up pics because it came out great! A lot better than buying a custom surround for several hundred dollars!
Nice work! Glad to hear it.
I have an old but working Ryobi miter saw in the shop attic. I know what it's next blade replacement will be.
Haha, 💯!
Careful with the rpms. Use recommended only, or teeth will sheer and produce flying projectiles. Severe risk of blade splintering when used improperly. Always wear face shield and gloves, even when using properly. Safety first
Great review! Bought a blade couple days ago but haven't had time to try it yet.
Good choice!
I need to cut a bunch of 3/8" plate for some tractor implements. I think I'm buying one of these instead of burning through all my 4.5" cutoff discs.
Thanks for the follow up review! Just as an FYI tip, I bought a Skill worm drive saw at Habitat For Humanity's ReStore, the thrift store they operate, for $25 and something like that with the Diablo saw blade left on it would make a great saw for metal projects.
That would be a great setup. I recently went to the habitat store for the first time. They have some cool stuff to choose from.
@@MarkThomasBuilder The stores here are now getting truck loads of merchandise from Wayfair. Returns, discontinued items, and so on.
this saw blade will keel
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thats a nice cut..... wanna grab some of these blades for a shipping container house im builing 32 40 ftrs lots of cuts to make
Cool! Sounds like an interesting project.
@@MarkThomasBuilder yeah.. im building the puma container store with a twist.... gonna look super clean
For alota cutting I recommend to get a 8” milwalkee metal circular saw with diablo blades keeps from chipps flying on ya and a slower higher torque saw making it easier on the blades
Good idea! I was just looking at that saw again and it looks like the best option. I don't cut a lot of steel, so this Diablo blade works well for me. Safety glasses and a respirator are a good idea.
markthomasbuilder nothing wrong with the way you do it but the Milwaukee version is a real time saver in the steel fabrication world that would be the first saw I recommend to anyone id take that over a plasma cutter cause ive cut up to 1”plate and no prep is required to weld don’t know why so few steel fabricators use it maybe its not a traditional tool but sure works good only down side is its loud and blades are pricy compared to plasma consumables
I'm slowly getting into more metal fabrication. This tool may be in my future... hopefully.
@@mesh1248 we use those Milwaukee 8 inch size at work. Mostly for cutting metal studs. We do a lot of other metal cutting with them and they are fantastic. We use a commercial duty blade that is even better than the Diablo. It is made by Morse.
How often do you use it? How many cuts do you make with it in that 6 month time period? Do you cut sheet materials like 1/8-3/16 steel diamond plate continuous 4'-8' cuts? We need a review of durability and longevity. We also need a comparison between the Diablo steel demon and Evolution steel cutting blades.
I was talking with a Diablo product manager last week about this Steel Demon blade. He said the blade has gone though a few upgrades since I made this video.
Great suggestions for a future video.
Without knowing how many linear feet you have cut and at what thickness (assuming it is the same type of steel throughout) I can't judge the durability. If you added an estimate of that, it would be helpful. Thanks!
First time viewing a review by you. Nice review of the Diablo. Professional in your presentation and delivery. I had only seen one other intro to the Diablo blade and was turned off by the poor use of a t-shirt with a swear word on it. I’ll be following you. Thank You!
Much appreciated!
Thank you
You're welcome
3:30 - That's a whole hour of cutting with a hacksaw!
Haha, for sure! If your time is money, this is an easy decision to buy.
Yep!
Have done that in the 70's and 80's.
Looks like I am buying a new blade for my saw. Thanks.
I've been using mine over the weekend, it's very handy to have.
I don't understand what makes the different metals harder to cut. Cast iron is harder to cut than steel which I don't understand. The Diablo 14" metal chop saw blade doesn't cut cast iron at all. I hope I can return it, it was $85+ seems like.
A lot less sparks when cutting straight.
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Thanks for the video Mark. I guess this blade would work perfect for cutting a section of my steel roof off???
Thanks, yes It should work fine for that.
Will cutting thru wood hurt the blade? I will be cutting steel roof attached to wood.
I was asking questions on 7" circ saw cutoffs vs the steel demon and this demo clearly shows how much better and way faster the steel demon is.. Im definately gona get one for the rare times I cut metal.. I have carbide metal diablo recip blades but this will fit nicely and do better than my 7" cutoff blade. Especially at. Times when I have saw dust on thw garage floor and dont need sparks to light up my saw dust tinder pile
Yeah, good thinking. This is an amazing blade! I'm use mine just occasionally, so it's held up well.
Hi Mark, just found your channel when searching for info on a blade to cut steel - awesome! Please add a link for that neat Rockwell "clamp bench"? that you're using in video. Thx!
Will do, thanks for the suggestion. It's a Rockwell Jawhorse.
If I look at the cuts like this, I get the impression that the 6 month old saw blade is a little slower but still impressive compared to the new one.
Yes, it will eventually wear out, but you'll get a lot of clean cuts with it.
No doubt the older, used one is somewhat slower. However it still is almost as quick, nice cuts, and pretty cheap all things considered. At least you don't have a lot of the abrasive stuff flying around making a mess.
I wonder how this would work on a Kreg Accucut? As there’s no heat, it should work.
Used it once 6 months ago!
To me it seemed like the new blade struggled just a little on that 3/8 plate than the used one. Anyway, I ordered a 14 inch diablo blade for my Milwaukee chop saw. Can’t wait to try it
Oh cool, let me know how it work on the chop saw. I may have to do that to mine.
@@MarkThomasBuilder right on
Mind blown.
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I've heard that you're not supposed to cut steel (angle iron) with a miter saw or a circular saw even with a TCT (tungsten carbide tip) saw because the RPM (3000 - 5000) is too fast and generates too much heat for steel. But a cold cut chop saw spins slower around 900-1500 RPM, so that's why it's the proper tool to use for cutting steel. Is this true?
I've been to a few events where the Diablo company showed their blades in a circular saw, so I'm sure they would be using them in tools rated for their blades. Their medium steel blade is rated for up to 5,800 rpms.
From what I’ve read elsewhere, it really depends on the number of teeth and their shape.
I *think* that it’s easier to make a metal cutting blade if it runs slower. Diablo has to put a lot of design work into making a blade that runs fast. Your choices of fast spinning metal blades are quite limited vs slow ones.
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Time does not wear out a blade. The number of cuts and what you cut does. So how many cuts have you put on this blade in the last 6 months and on what gauge of steel ?
It's hard for me to say, I've done occasional cuts with this on with on steel that's 1/4" and down. I even leave this blade it in the saw for convenience. I have another saw for cutting wood.
I was excited when I found the blade to use on my 12" miter saw but really disappointed when I saw that for that size you can go only to 1800 rpm so it is a no go for me. I don't want the carbide bits flying all over the place for running the blade at 3800 rpm. I do use a Diablo cut off blade but have to go slower...
Glad to see you paying attention to the ratings and being safe.
I noticed you didn't say how many cuts was on the old blade. I've used these things for a while.
I went back to the abrasive. Tried several brands.They all average about twenty to twenty five cuts And they're done. So when you break it down how much does it cost per cut the abrasive is cheaper. Harbor freight sells a hercules brand six inch. You're just trying to sell a product responsible by.
Good follow up review. Thanks.
Any benefit from dabbing cutting oil on the cut line?
Several of the online Diablo Cermet blade buyer reviews mentioned the great performance at first, but then cutting ability suddenly dropped. Care to speculate on what may have happened?
I'm guessing they only have a limited life. For occasional use, these seem to last a long time and give nice clean cuts. I haven't heard about what cutting oil will do for extending the life, but it certainly couldn't hurt.
Thank you for the demonstration. Is wood/metal blade better than steel demon when cutting wood? In what ways?
Yes, the Steel Demon isn't made for wood. The wood/metal blade works well for demo work like cutting nails in a 2x4, but seems to cut a little slow if you're just using it on wood.
Cool
goodday sir, thank you for the update about ur diablo blade. how about the performance of diablo wood and metal blade of diablo? it is also good in a long way using it? thank you, and Godbless.
I honestly don't use the wood and metal blade that much. The normal 24T framing blade cuts wood faster and can handle nails too.
@@MarkThomasBuilder thank you, but if i will use it in metal? it is advisable also to use it? or i need to buy the blade for metal one?
Mine didn't last sis months. I cut some stainless with it. Maybe 12 feet of sheet stainless. Now its dull I think.
Either I wore my Steel Demo blade out cutting up stainless or my corded circular saws won't push the blade. I was using an a Makita Magnesium 7 1/4 and the blade was stopping when trying to cut through thick tubular steel. My question is do you think the saw didn't have enough rpms or did I dull the blade previously? When cutting the stainless I used a Milwaukee Fuel corldless double battery saw. 7 1/4".
Not many people know that the diablo blades are rated for 1800max rpm and the circular saw are running much much faster than that. The Diablo blades won’t last long. They will work ,but not very long.. just keep that in mind..
That's not true Herb. The max RPM is marked on all of the blades. Different styles of blades have different ratings.
@@account-ability_2583 yup I agree,but not many people knows that. They’ll just grab what ever is on the shelves..
I bought this blade to cut 1/8 steel sheet after 24 inch blade went bust 😡. I dont get it
was it used over that 6 months? im pretty confident any saw blade will hold up sitting idle in the garage.. how about a video showing blade life in say 1/4" plate from new to no longer cutting how many linear feet do you get
Sounds like a good video idea. Thanks!
I get 4 feet in 1/4 inch steel and its done
Yeah true, that blade looked like it had been used stuff all through the 6 months
Hi Mr
I'm a subscriber and love your vids. ..
What about this saw with table saw. .specially with the Dewalt cordless table saw?
And I'm wondering why you don't use this blade with your flexvolt table saw?
Also I'm trying to understand if can cut wood with nails with this blade so I'll not have to buy the 36 teeth blade? What do you think ?
I think this Steel Demon is for circular saws and not table saws. You would want the Demo Demon blade for nail embedded wood.
Here is my question. Do I buy the blade made for steel or the blade made for non ferrous? Will the steel blade work for both materials? I will be making cutting aluminum.
That's a good question. I use it for steel and haven't looked into cutting aluminum. My recommendation is to ask the question on the Home Depot website. Diablo themselves will likely answer the question.
Don’t use a steel blade on non-ferrous materials. Molten Aluminum can adhere to the blade and cause it to go out of balance, which can be very dangerous. It will also ruin your blade.
Similarly, steel will destroy a non-ferrous blade. Right tool for the right job
@@Texsrt4 do you have any idea what we are talking about here? They make carbide steel saw blades that are designed to cut both non ferrous and ferrous. There is no molton aluminium to speak of.
Do a search for frued non ferrous saw blade
Travis k do you know what ferrous and non-ferrous means? If the blade says ferrous and non-ferrous, you can use it on both materials. If it specifies one, use it on the one specified. I provided the reason why.
And FYI, if there are sparks, the metal is molten. That’s what sparks are, superheated metal
Can you cut a 3/8 dovetail in mild steel using a saw guide?
Hello, how much thickness can this machine cut?
Wow
It's awesome!
@@MarkThomasBuilder will that blade work on a miter saw cutting square tubbing
HI MARK, GREAT VIDEO. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU TRIED THIS BLADE ON THINNER METAL LIKE 16 OR 18 GAUGE? THANKS
I watched someone else cut metal with that type of thickness. It was a 2 day job and ended up using the blade up. I'm not sure if they pushed the blade too hard or not, but it got the job done.
Clamp your speedsquare into the vise and use it as a fence.
Nice idea, thanks!
I can tell you that I know for a fact you're not doing heavy cutting day in and day out with this blade. The red paint is still as vibrant as that new one where it would be rubbed and scratched from cuts done with it. I know this because I have used this blade and I know what it looks like after do 25 cuts with this blade in a day back to back to back. I also know you won't be getting more than 35 cuts on a 5800 rpm saw with this blade. Spend your money on diamond blade.
That is correct, I'm doing off and on cutting with it. It's held up well for occasional use. I've also seen this blade used hard all day long and lasted only a few days, so it probably had 25-30 cuts on it before wearing out.
Is the saw with which you cut the metal intended for cutting wood?
I'm not talking about the blade!
In addition I would love to know a recommended (cheap) model and what is the RPM of the saw?
Thank you !
Looking forward to your response !
The Dewalt saw I'm using is 5,800 RPMs and it works well. It's model number DW364.
That is a neat vise! Been using the 14” cutting 2 7/8 and 3 1/2” oilfield tubing. Works well. I will have to try these. Is that a regular speed hand saw?
Yes, it's regular speed. I've had it for 10 years or more.
@@MarkThomasBuilder same here I bought one of those blades and drug my old skill saw (5400rpm) out of the closet and have been cutting 1/4 steel plate, and it don't slow down, unbelievable!
I've got a 6.5" 18v makita saw. I'm just a home hobbyist and plan on it lasting forever, essentially. I'm a little reluctant to use it for steel like this. Considering finding a used, corded saw to designate for steel. Are my concerns valid?
You can probably pick up a cheap used circular saw to just keep a metal blade in. I don't run many corded tools anymore, so I now keep the Diablo blade in my corded cir saw.
I understand that you had the blade for six months, but how many cuts during that time? It could have 3 or 50..I will be getting one for my Skil saw forwelding projects. Thank you for the video.
I probably have about 20 cuts with the blade.
Anyone want to buy a slightly used plasma cutter?! My Diablo blade will be here tomorrow, can't wait. Seeing this cut of the 3/8" plate, I can't believe I have wasted a lot of ox/acy, cut off/grinder wheels, and waited while my band saw cut steel. A lifelong carpenter, seeing it contact steel made me cringe initially, but damn it sure seems to cut great, almost too good to be true.
It's an amazing blade! When I first seen it demonstrated, I couldn't believe it.
the plasma cutter is going to be alot more economical if youre cutting any amount of steel over 1/8"
@@AndrewBrowner My comment was made somewhat tongue in cheek. The plasma is NOT for sale! BUT, until I see how long the Diablo blades lasts, maybe not. Of course the D blade can't cut curves and circles like my plasma. But the plasma does use consumable tips, and takes my big shop air compressor also, whereas I can can just pick up my worm gear saw and make a quick cut. My band saw has it's place in the show also, but again, most times the D blade is quicker and simpler to use.
Would this work on a table saw cutting 3/8 steel dovetail?
Unfortunately, based on the reviews from Home Depot, where many people complained about the short life span of this blade, I am reluctant to pay the $30. I might as well save $400 to get a Milwaukee M18 metal cutting saw, which comes with a much better blade. I have seven Diablo's 12-inch steel demon reciprocal saw blades, which are the best in the market, but their circular saw metal cutting blades have a long way to go.
It depends on how much steel you're cutting. I use my Diablo blade for small steel cutting projects here and there and it does a great job. The Milwaukee saw looks nice too, especially if you're cutting steel often.
Ok , I'm buying one. I wonder how it would work in a tablesaw
It should work there too. I'm wondering if a circular saw contains the steel shavings better?
The test is strange, took 10 and 11 sec with old blade and 12+ with the new one and 11 for the last which had a little extra distance.
I didn't get what you were trying to prove did you use it for 6 month because you can keep a blind for 10 years and use it and will still work Or did use the blood every day for 6 months??
I use the blade once in awhile for small projects. It's the best way for me to cut steel. The cuts are nice and clean.
How is the saw holding up!?
The plastic handle needs to be replaced. Otherwise, it's doing great. I might search for a OEM part and make a video on it.
where did you get that clamping station by Rockwell.
Here's link to my video review of it that has affiliate links in the description. It's a great tool, one of my daily use items... ruclips.net/video/SKN8t1jBdr8/видео.html
Also i tried a regular carbide blade and it seemed to me to work just about the same as the deiablo blade.
I haven't tried a regular framing carbide blade on thick steel like this. I know the Diablo Steel Demon has special properties such as ceramic and metallic teeth, made for this type of work.
Looks good, but it hard to believe that after 6 months blade keep paint on it
I definitely do a lot morewood work than metal work. I'm happy with the way the blade has held up for occasional use. I have another saw that I keep for woodworking and this saw exclusively for metal work.
@@MarkThomasBuilder may be...somethen I'll try this blade
what kind of white marked did you use?
It's a marking stick by Sharpie. Here's an Amazon link... amzn.to/46cQKNZ
I also use the Milwaukee Inkzall on steel as well.