I really loved Milton's poem being studied through Jewish eyes. I had to laugh when the lecturer said you could go to Sion by getting the 400 bus a few hundred yards down the road. Then there was the heresy - the mention of the Christian Midrash. This is real education, not allowing your religion, or that of the students, limit the teaching of knowledge.
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Awesome. I see lots of commentators adding ideas to this lecture, so I will add mine: "Instruct me O Spirit" by the poem's speaker means the speaker is asking the Spirit to teach him and help him tell this story of the fall, woe, and redemption ect. Meaning= 1. Milton is asking God for help before he begins writing- and 10,000 lines later we see prayer works. 2. Milton humbly yet publicly begins with prayer so his readers SEE his DEPENDENCE on God for help- provoking readers to do the same. It is an allusion to Jesus' words that "without Him we can do nothing" and that "the Spirit will lead us to all truth "(John 15-16). So I humbly point out we humans can do nothing nor understand much (especially Milton) without prayer and asking God to reveal us truth. Milton 3.glorifies God by sharing his dependence on God with us. Love yall.
wow this teacher is a genius or im just finally realizing what makes a good teacher... he so smoothly leads you to the conclusions, to further understanding, by assessing and playing to our level of understanding
Thank you for this video. For what concerns the prologue, i would suggest two interpretations that were not given in this lecture. Milton invokes the "Heav'nly Muse" in the first lines and Prof. Kolbrener says that it is a clear affiliation to the Greek culture, but I think it is worth considering Torquato Tasso's invocation of the Muse in the prologue of "Jerusalem Delivered" (La Gerusalemme Liberata): "O heavenly Muse, that not with fading bays Deckest thy brow by the Heliconian spring, But sittest crowned with stars' immortal rays In Heaven, where legions of bright angels sing" We can notice that the Muse is a Greek character but it is deeply and explicitly characterized by Christian elements. To put it in other words, Tasso clearly says: "I'm not talking to the typical Greek Muse, but with the Christian Muse that sits in Heaven". I think that the "Heav'nly Muse that Milton invokes can be seen as a Christian symbol rather than a Greek one. Secondly, I would underline that "Things unattempted yet in Prose or Rhime" is the Englis translation of "cosa non detta in prosa mai, né in rima", which is a quotation from the Prologue of "Orlando Furioso" [Orlando Enraged] by Ludovico Ariosto. Since both "Jerusalem Delivered" and "Orlando Furioso" were published almost one hundred years before "Paradise Lost", maybe we can say that Milton was influenced equally not only from Greek and Jewish tradition but also from Italian Catholic epic poems.
Italian mindset and tradition is also a Greco - Christian tradition. You are not understanding the meaning of "Greek" here. Greek does not mean as coming from the Greek people, but as a concept of a Greco (aka European) world. Or a pre-christian European mindset. A pre-christian European mind is not confined to the "greek people" but to all of Europe, especially Mediterranean Europe, including Italy. To say Greek is to say European. It is a synonym. It does not connote only the peeople or the region. And here it is used as a synonym of a pre-hebraic european mindset, not as a location on the European continent.
@@soulsearchtarot that’s a good point, also I’d add that the invocation of a Christian muse (the only thing it could logically mean is the Holy Ghost) seems an extremely uncatholic notion. The idea of a poet asking for inspiration directly to himself seems borderline offensive to Catholic theology
Just by watching this lecture I feel that I have acknowledged PL better and that I can approach it from various aspects which are majorly important throughout the poem!
Eliot eventually changed his negative assessment of Milton to an enthusiastically positive one. In a 1947 lecture he calls M. our greatest free verse poet.
Milton deals with spiritual reality and affirms that we are never beyond redemption, unless we reject it. "The portals of grace are wide open before the face of all men … No man that seeketh Us will We ever disappoint, neither shall he that hath set his face towards Us be denied access unto Our court." -Baha’u’llah. Baha'i Faith
I love the positioning of Milton and PL as central to the canon. It’s always seemed curious to me how Shakespeare is held so far above the other poets when Milton was born a generation later and essentially shaped (or at least formally and artistically) the western conception of good and evil.
Love the commentary of what other poets thought of Milton . Enlightening. At this point I’m most curious about him. I was brought here by an admiration of Blake. And I’m wondering why Milton is such a lightning rod.
Dante's Commedia could be considered a theodicy as the Inferno begins in Hell as Dante takes his tour of the levels from Hell to Heaven. So how did Dante's Commedia influence John Milton's Paradise Lost?
Francine Price, great question. which did you like more? I loved both but I think that Dante's divine comedy is better overall. There are several parts in Paradise lost that I found were truly great thoughts on why God does not intervene in the human world and why we have free will, Both epics though are amazing reads.
+K2shadowfax ...He doesn't even know how to pronounce the Jewish texts! He also loses his train of thought and begins talking about Backgammon. Milton wrote about a lost character. Howard Holtz is that lost character. As an example, are your children your property? In true religion men do not wear hats. Hats represent submission to a sainted authority. Who is final authority? Who is "sainted?" The Democratic party is the devil's party. Negro people make better poets. Everyone is "conditioned" to "know" this is true. Also, Milton a Protestant? He seems so much more Catholic. His "Paradise" is extra-Biblical in the Universalist understanding; certainly not Protestant in the historic "reductive" sense. At some point you will hear sirens. And I don't mean the siren's song! Jesus is real!
+Garundi P. McGrundy Stop vandalizing this lecture with your garbage. Yes, the lecture has some problems, but you have no right to bash Milton, one of the most important poets of the English language.
Oh, I see. I didn't know that. His lecture is good. I learned stuff. But I still think my post answers fundamental questions. Re-read my post and learn stuff.
I have read a book that answers many if not all of the questions this video poses based on the writing of John Milton. Gods role in the existence of evil, time etc. Look up, the Stick of Joseph.
Exactly. Like he is such a good professor and yet all they conclude from lecture that he said the year of his death wrong. Okay all knowing professors, then you teach the next lectures from next time
With your Hebraic background and your skillful approach of teaching, it would have been way more beneficial if you have continued uploading the rest of Paradise Lost Lectures.
Three cheers for the Prof's kinetic, interactive pedagogy, despite the venal foibles. A slight touch of froideur could have turned it into a display of pedantry. Commendable conflation of the pagan, the Hellenic, and the Hebraic. Milton's taste and outlook was far too catholic to mine into Midrash for spiritual aggrandizement.
Pullman got me into Milton. Pullman has a satanic hero called Lord Asriel who builds a fortress that took hundreds of years to build..just like the time-bending that Milton uses throughout.
Milton was obsessed with time - time is the mind functioning. Thoughts are "objects" experienced in succession. Past is a thought in the present. Future is a thought in the present. Present does not exist - it cannot be found. Nothing is real - the mind is not real. God as an object does not exist - only the observer is real - God looking through your eyes.
Hmm.....those pearls of Wisdom - reminds me of Eckhart Tolle ? They sound impressive but upon closer examination turn out to be meaningless . Exactly like Eckhart Tolle!!!
John Milton predict the new captain of the Future, in Paradise Gain!! Remember WW2.. the new Captain was America after the End of WW2. and it wasn't just a marvel comic book in Captain AMERICA. BUT The new Captain in the Future is not Captain America or the US. it appears in Paradise Gain Poem.... this is why there not covering the issue of John Milton Paradise Gain Poem. not yet anyways.
Ozymandias Don't try to even because it difficult to understand apart from your subject. It will hang your brain because you lack merit to understand this. 😂😂
Awful lot of deja vu. In a class of adults, surfeit of elucidation could have been avoided. Was there too much of "chutzpah" in both Milton and his exegete?
I'm surprised no one has answered. Assuming it's a serious question - it's Jewish head-gear worn by men for religious reasons - the name is well-known but it escapes me at the moment; the generic term is 'skull-cap'. Since he seems to be in a Jewish university, he may be required to wear it; otherwise, he may just choose to wear it for, as I say, religious reasons.
This guy has erred from the beginning. Shakespeare died in 1616. Better than Shakespeare? His masterwork involves itself entirely of a myth. Shakespeare, about all dimensions of reality.
nah... stop telling all these unrelated stories, friend. annoying to bring in other writers all the time and Jewism and not talking about Milton. I know that he is mentioned in round-about ways, but too vaguely to make any realy sense. I was scammed by this lecture. Do not watch.
I am very annoyed at this guy's many attempts at being edgy. He does it in a way that appeals to all the edge-lords who haven't yet read Paradise Lost, and prevents them from seeing it as anything but "the ultimate argument for the justification of Satan's actions." I used to be atheist, and now I've realized that was just a reaction to everyone else's beliefs. I believe in God now, but not because of anyone else's beliefs; what I call "God" is not what you call God, but I'll agree with you that He is the Supreme Mystery, that He is Infinite Love, etc. Milton's poem is the best. That is all.
sh2master, sadly I only got halfway through the poem when my phone broke, I had a book app that I used, I just need to download the app again. Slightly related the Dante's divine comedy is also an exceptional read.
sh2master Sounds like projection seeing as you claim you were only saying you were an atheist to be an edgelord without thinking about what you actually believe.
Those who study Miltonian literature understand that Milton created many words and phrases used commonly in English today. Although Shakespeare was an enlightened writer and great in his own regard, Milton essentially made English through his writings. The details are varied, such as Milton's coined words here and there, as well as his syntax. Milton undoubtedly was a genius, and also enlightened by his understanding of God, the past, present, time, etc., but Shakespeare and Milton are different, and I think it is slightly unfair to compare them. They are giants in their own regard.
A lot of jibrish unfortunately when you study philosophy & these teachers are nothing less than Wizards of Speech - Allah offers eternal life after death & the unimaginable blessings but instead man wants an Injunction from the High Court on God being evil? Or let's discuss time & all our problems will disappear.. All middle /upper class talk, too much money & living in a bubble. Milton studied at Oxford & demonstrates he wanted nothing to do with the every day working man nor charity but wrote a piece to attack religion! Waste of time 🗑
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Paradise Lost is my favorite work of all times. I have read it many times.
I really loved Milton's poem being studied through Jewish eyes. I had to laugh when the lecturer said you could go to Sion by getting the 400 bus a few hundred yards down the road. Then there was the heresy - the mention of the Christian Midrash. This is real education, not allowing your religion, or that of the students, limit the teaching of knowledge.
thank you Brendan
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Thank you for this!!! This one lecture made me understand this so much better than my own teacher's three lectures ever did! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
Awesome.
I see lots of commentators adding ideas to this lecture, so I will add mine:
"Instruct me O Spirit" by the poem's speaker means the speaker is asking the Spirit to teach him and help him tell this story of the fall, woe, and redemption ect.
Meaning= 1. Milton is asking God for help before he begins writing- and 10,000 lines later we see prayer works. 2. Milton humbly yet publicly begins with prayer so his readers SEE his DEPENDENCE on God for help- provoking readers to do the same. It is an allusion to Jesus' words that "without Him we can do nothing" and that "the Spirit will lead us to all truth "(John 15-16).
So I humbly point out we humans can do nothing nor understand much (especially Milton) without prayer and asking God to reveal us truth. Milton 3.glorifies God by sharing his dependence on God with us. Love yall.
Wow ! An unexpected treat . One of the best examinations
of Milton . From a Jewish viewpoint !!
Interesting lecture that puts Milton into an stimulating category,which is achieved with the enthusiasm of the Professor.
Wonderfully done, thank you Professor Kolbrener for your clear, mindful and well done explanation. Interesting...
This guy. I must hear more of him. Knows his stuff. Can tell he loves his poetry.
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wow this teacher is a genius or im just finally realizing what makes a good teacher... he so smoothly leads you to the conclusions, to further understanding, by assessing and playing to our level of understanding
The latter, combined with expertise in Rubinic understanding of theology.
:)
@@WestCoastBroodWar Did you mean rabbinic?
ruclips.net/channel/UCpBVOF6J4lUYXSdhVHBG3Ag - there's more here!
A very useful window to the text...the debates that are touched through the frames prove to be a good starting point. Thanks!
Paradise Lost changed my life
Thank you for this video.
For what concerns the prologue, i would suggest two interpretations that were not given in this lecture.
Milton invokes the "Heav'nly Muse" in the first lines and Prof. Kolbrener says that it is a clear affiliation to the Greek culture, but I think it is worth considering Torquato Tasso's invocation of the Muse in the prologue of "Jerusalem Delivered" (La Gerusalemme Liberata):
"O heavenly Muse, that not with fading bays
Deckest thy brow by the Heliconian spring,
But sittest crowned with stars' immortal rays
In Heaven, where legions of bright angels sing"
We can notice that the Muse is a Greek character but it is deeply and explicitly characterized by Christian elements. To put it in other words, Tasso clearly says: "I'm not talking to the typical Greek Muse, but with the Christian Muse that sits in Heaven". I think that the "Heav'nly Muse that Milton invokes can be seen as a Christian symbol rather than a Greek one.
Secondly, I would underline that "Things unattempted yet in Prose or Rhime" is the Englis translation of "cosa non detta in prosa mai, né in rima", which is a quotation from the Prologue of "Orlando Furioso" [Orlando Enraged] by Ludovico Ariosto.
Since both "Jerusalem Delivered" and "Orlando Furioso" were published almost one hundred years before "Paradise Lost", maybe we can say that Milton was influenced equally not only from Greek and Jewish tradition but also from Italian Catholic epic poems.
Italian mindset and tradition is also a Greco - Christian tradition. You are not understanding the meaning of "Greek" here. Greek does not mean as coming from the Greek people, but as a concept of a Greco (aka European) world. Or a pre-christian European mindset. A pre-christian European mind is not confined to the "greek people" but to all of Europe, especially Mediterranean Europe, including Italy. To say Greek is to say European. It is a synonym. It does not connote only the peeople or the region. And here it is used as a synonym of a pre-hebraic european mindset, not as a location on the European continent.
@@soulsearchtarot that’s a good point, also I’d add that the invocation of a Christian muse (the only thing it could logically mean is the Holy Ghost) seems an extremely uncatholic notion. The idea of a poet asking for inspiration directly to himself seems borderline offensive to Catholic theology
Just by watching this lecture I feel that I have acknowledged PL better and that I can approach it from various aspects which are majorly important throughout the poem!
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Eliot eventually changed his negative assessment of Milton to an enthusiastically positive one. In a 1947 lecture he calls M. our greatest free verse poet.
Milton deals with spiritual reality and affirms that we are never beyond redemption, unless we reject it. "The portals of grace are wide open before the face of all men … No man that seeketh Us will We ever disappoint, neither shall he that hath set his face towards Us be denied access unto Our court." -Baha’u’llah. Baha'i Faith
Hi is there any part 2 of this lecture?
I love the positioning of Milton and PL as central to the canon. It’s always seemed curious to me how Shakespeare is held so far above the other poets when Milton was born a generation later and essentially shaped (or at least formally and artistically) the western conception of good and evil.
Has he covered all the books of Paradise Lost? Excellent lecture!
Wonderful introduction to Paradise Lost, but where are the rest of the lectures? Would have liked to have watched more.
Love the commentary of what other poets thought of Milton . Enlightening. At this point I’m most curious about him. I was brought here by an admiration of Blake. And I’m wondering why Milton is such a lightning rod.
Excellent lecture! Wish I could watch the rest of it.
Dante's Commedia could be considered a theodicy as the Inferno begins in Hell as Dante takes his tour of the levels from Hell to Heaven. So how did Dante's Commedia influence John Milton's Paradise Lost?
Francine Price, great question. which did you like more? I loved both but I think that Dante's divine comedy is better overall. There are several parts in Paradise lost that I found were truly great thoughts on why God does not intervene in the human world and why we have free will, Both epics though are amazing reads.
So interesting, the way in which he interweaves the three
has his audience read paradise lost?
Didier Anelka Good question.
We hope so!
not yet
Judging from their responses they don't appear to have read ANY books !!
thank God he is speaking in Englsih. :)
A most interesting lecture. Thanks for sharing.
+K2shadowfax ...He doesn't even know how to pronounce the Jewish texts! He also loses his train of thought and begins talking about Backgammon. Milton wrote about a lost character. Howard Holtz is that lost character. As an example, are your children your property? In true religion men do not wear hats. Hats represent submission to a sainted authority. Who is final authority? Who is "sainted?" The Democratic party is the devil's party. Negro people make better poets. Everyone is "conditioned" to "know" this is true. Also, Milton a Protestant? He seems so much more Catholic. His "Paradise" is extra-Biblical in the Universalist understanding; certainly not Protestant in the historic "reductive" sense. At some point you will hear sirens. And I don't mean the siren's song! Jesus is real!
+Garundi P. McGrundy Stop vandalizing this lecture with your garbage. Yes, the lecture has some problems, but you have no right to bash Milton, one of the most important poets of the English language.
Oh, I see. I didn't know that. His lecture is good. I learned stuff. But I still think my post answers fundamental questions. Re-read my post and learn stuff.
Sir you are best. 🥀🥀🌷🌷
Where are other lectures?
I have read a book that answers many if not all of the questions this video poses based on the writing of John Milton. Gods role in the existence of evil, time etc. Look up, the Stick of Joseph.
Excellent interpretation of the European mindset = Greco - Judaic/Christian.
An outstanding lecture. Thank you.
Wonderfully informative lecture; thank you for sharing ( I hope there is more to come in this series on PL?) Cheers
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Critic of the last century Arec Arabac? Actual word Kia Tha?
Incredible lecture!
I would love to hear other lectures by this professor!
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that was very enriching , enjoyed it a lot
Is Milton the Nikola Tesla of literature? If not, who is?
Very interesting lecture, thank you.
Is he giving lecture of paradise lost book 1 ?
I think that WAS the original intention !! It disappeared rather
quickly...
I've watched this video a Billion time!
well it does not have a billion views..
no wonder there's so many hits
Great Lecture!
Very good lecture thank you.
half the comments correcting Shakespeare's year of death like it has anything to do with the rest of the lecture lol
people like to find fault
No one knows Shakespeare's date of death as no knows who Shakespeare really was
Exactly. Like he is such a good professor and yet all they conclude from lecture that he said the year of his death wrong. Okay all knowing professors, then you teach the next lectures from next time
Yeah ! He should be dismissed !!
With your Hebraic background and your skillful approach of teaching, it would have been way more beneficial if you have continued uploading the rest of Paradise Lost Lectures.
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[Book 9]
-- that brought into this world a world of woe --
Shakespeare died in 1616, not in 1621.His First Folio was published in 1623-7 years after his death
Great Lecture!
Thank you
great lecture
: But wherefore thou alone? Wherefore with thee
Came not all Hell broke loose?
Three cheers for the Prof's kinetic, interactive pedagogy, despite the venal foibles. A slight touch of froideur could have turned it into a display of pedantry. Commendable conflation of the pagan, the Hellenic, and the Hebraic. Milton's taste and outlook was far too catholic to mine into Midrash for spiritual aggrandizement.
Only one cheer from me
brilliant !
Shakespeare died in 1616.
Born and died on St George's day. That's two of us that twigged to that. Cheers
Pullman got me into Milton. Pullman has a satanic hero called Lord Asriel who builds a fortress that took hundreds of years to build..just like the time-bending that Milton uses throughout.
Can any one tel?
Shakespeare died in 1616, not 1621!
Paradise lost is already in your spirit
Milton's words subverted his orthodoxy.
Milton was obsessed with time - time is the mind functioning. Thoughts are "objects" experienced in succession. Past is a thought in the present. Future is a thought in the present. Present does not exist - it cannot be found. Nothing is real - the mind is not real. God as an object does not exist - only the observer is real - God looking through your eyes.
So you are an agnostic?
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Hmm.....those pearls of Wisdom
- reminds me of Eckhart Tolle ?
They sound impressive but upon closer examination turn out to be
meaningless . Exactly like Eckhart
Tolle!!!
Excellent
John Milton predict the new captain of the Future, in Paradise Gain!!
Remember WW2.. the new Captain was America after the End of WW2.
and it wasn't just a marvel comic book in Captain AMERICA.
BUT The new Captain in the Future is not Captain America or the US.
it appears in Paradise Gain Poem....
this is why there not covering the issue of John Milton Paradise Gain Poem.
not yet anyways.
My favorite question in the lecture: “Is he flying Jet Blue?!?” 😂
Great!
Ro?
Shakespeare died in 1616, not 1621.
Wonderful.
Starts off good, then rambles himself into a knot.
Thought provoking
Died in your love dear.make further videos.Aftab(ma English)pakistan.
Shakespeare now lives 5 years longer for Milton to attain his first year of tees !!!
I m Computer Science Major and Don't understand a fuck about this
Ozymandias
Don't try to even because it difficult to understand apart from your subject. It will hang your brain because you lack merit to understand this. 😂😂
Not everyone can understand everything about everything. People study literature and poetry their whole lives to try and understand works like this.
William Shakespeare died in 1616 aged 52.
Coming to text after a long time..
Lovely!
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A third of angels fell from heaven 33%. The magic number. And Milton says they can change their gender in book one.
Milton didn't exist he was a vessel bruh
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Ya
Shakespeare died in the year 1616
er......yeah. So basically there's no
point in watching this ??
@@2msvalkyrie529 .......you can still watch it ......!!!!!!!!! Every human makes mistakes.
This clip is so sad, so sad....
Don't know about this one chief
shakespeare died in 1621?????????? noooo.. 1616
John Milton Predict the Future in his Poem, even if he's from 1600's
Which poem are you referring to?
Awful lot of deja vu. In a class of adults, surfeit of elucidation could have been avoided. Was there too much of "chutzpah" in both Milton and his exegete?
THE NEW CAPTAIN IN 21st CENTURY.
PARADISE GAIN POEM IN John Milton Poem.
Shakespeare died 1616 wtf
tfw youre not jewish and ur just tryna understand Paradise Lost lmao, he's a great professor tho
+HomeyGFruitcake16
Jews worship Lucifer
Any other absurdity on offer?
Agreed.
Whats he got on his head.Wierd hat. Anyone else see this?
I'm surprised no one has answered. Assuming it's a serious question - it's Jewish head-gear worn by men for religious reasons - the name is well-known but it escapes me at the moment; the generic term is 'skull-cap'. Since he seems to be in a Jewish university, he may be required to wear it; otherwise, he may just choose to wear it for, as I say, religious reasons.
Brooooo it's all the devil open yer eyes even shak-a-spear
did the Simpsons bring anyone here😂
This guy has erred from the beginning. Shakespeare died in 1616. Better than Shakespeare? His masterwork involves itself entirely of a myth. Shakespeare, about all dimensions of reality.
A trivial error in dates.? You consider that important. ??!
I pity you....
nah... stop telling all these unrelated stories, friend. annoying to bring in other writers all the time and Jewism and not talking about Milton. I know that he is mentioned in round-about ways, but too vaguely to make any realy sense. I was scammed by this lecture. Do not watch.
a rabbi. cool
No, Prof K is not a rabbi. He should be though.
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I am very annoyed at this guy's many attempts at being edgy. He does it in a way that appeals to all the edge-lords who haven't yet read Paradise Lost, and prevents them from seeing it as anything but "the ultimate argument for the justification of Satan's actions." I used to be atheist, and now I've realized that was just a reaction to everyone else's beliefs. I believe in God now, but not because of anyone else's beliefs; what I call "God" is not what you call God, but I'll agree with you that He is the Supreme Mystery, that He is Infinite Love, etc.
Milton's poem is the best. That is all.
sh2master, sadly I only got halfway through the poem when my phone broke, I had a book app that I used, I just need to download the app again. Slightly related the Dante's divine comedy is also an exceptional read.
sh2master Sounds like projection seeing as you claim you were only saying you were an atheist to be an edgelord without thinking about what you actually believe.
"Milton more important than Shakespeare." RECORD SCRATCH - WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????
Those who study Miltonian literature understand that Milton created many words and phrases used commonly in English today. Although Shakespeare was an enlightened writer and great in his own regard, Milton essentially made English through his writings. The details are varied, such as Milton's coined words here and there, as well as his syntax. Milton undoubtedly was a genius, and also enlightened by his understanding of God, the past, present, time, etc., but Shakespeare and Milton are different, and I think it is slightly unfair to compare them. They are giants in their own regard.
Shakespeare died in 1616
Goofball
A lot of jibrish unfortunately when you study philosophy & these teachers are nothing less than Wizards of Speech - Allah offers eternal life after death & the unimaginable blessings but instead man wants an Injunction from the High Court on God being evil? Or let's discuss time & all our problems will disappear.. All middle /upper class talk, too much money & living in a bubble. Milton studied at Oxford & demonstrates he wanted nothing to do with the every day working man nor charity but wrote a piece to attack religion! Waste of time 🗑
PL doesn’t attack religion.
Weirdest person in the 17th century was Sabbatai Sevi
This is the same crap Sabbatai Sevi would have said.