To all fence builders, I mow for a living. I take exception to a 4' gate. Only a tiny mower would fit thru that. The most popular size mower is 52" so I vote for a 60" gate. 😢
For $285, I think I'll do the old fashioned way with string line, a sharpie pen, a little math and then maybe some ground paint. For the multiple types of fence and different spacing requirements, having to purchase multiples of this tool are a bit costly. I love the tool but not the price.
I have been a fence installer for 35 years now. I assume that this particular fence is for a wood fence due to the 8' or less layout between posts. At 20' it only took me about five seconds to do the math in my head to set the posts at 6'8". When you mention the next line was 70' I immediately would have decided to set the posts at 7' but then you mention a 4' gate. Still simple math but takes about a minute to deduce what the spacing should be. 70-4=66. Determine which number times(X) 8 equals or is greater than 66, which is 9 at 72 because 8 is only 64 and too short. This only takes a few seconds. Now you know you need 9 sections, 66x12=792, that's how many inches you have, divide that by 9 to get how many inches to space each post which is 88, go with that or divide that by 12 to get measurement in feet, which comes to 7.333" or basically 7'4". This method is even quicker with a smart phone calculator rather than using your carpenter's pencil scribbling on a piece of cardboard. I would much rather do this, which shouldn't take much longer than using this bungee cord tool and spending the money to buy it with the tool's longevity in question. I can pull my 300' tape, do my math, and make my paint marks just as quick, give or take 2-3 minutes.
@@JoeEverest True, but hopefully you have a well trained leader leading the crew! That is simple and basic math! I could do that type of math before graduating high school!
Hey Shadowears, question .. I am not very math savvy but trying to build a fence.. say if I got 1 straight section with a 4' gate somewhere in the middle, I would place my 2 end posts and the 2 gate posts where ever I want, and then say using your measurements above I would have 7.4' in between the gate post + next line post on both sides? Or does the gate posts positioning have an effect on this? TIA.
@@jmaclicious10 I am assuming that you wish to install a wood privacy fence. The equation I listed above is for wood fences only due to standard 2"X4" lengths are 8' long. Chainlink fence has a spacing of 10' maximum distance. You can place your end posts wherever you want to and your gate posts wherever it would be the most convenient for you and then measure the distance between each end post and gate post and use the equation for each measurement. Hope this answers your question! If not feel free to ask me again. If you can supply me with your exact measurements I will be glad to give you the exact measurements to space your posts. And for a heads up, if your fence is on a slope and not level ground, when you build your gate you will want to put the hinges on the lower gate post. If not the gate will hit the ground whenever you try to open it. And yes, the positioning of the posts and overall distance has an effect on this. The numbers I used above is the placement of the posts for the measurements given in the video.
@@shadowears Yeah, it will be wood construction, either 4x4x12 or 6x6x12 post, haven't decided yet, kind of leaning towards the 4x4 posts that we're allowed 6'6" high (planning to dig approx 54" deep to allow 6" gravel at the bottom of post and then set in 3/4 down(i live in central canada with crazy deep frost thaw cycles). the current fence thats now falling over is 4x4 green treated and has been here for 25+ years. I dont have the exact measurements just yet, however I will be getting them soon once all the shrubs are cleared. I know the back where I want the gate is around 766 13/16" give or take from my neighbors fence to my other neighbors fence. Another question.. does spanning my fence rails across the face of the posts alternating joints give me better strength/less chance at twisting than the galvanized rail brackets in between the posts? Really appreciate the help!
One issue I have dealt with fencing sections can vary 2-3 inches. Go to your supplier and actually measure and you will see that. I have had this happen multiple times at different suppliers. I actually quit using prefabricated sections and use individual pickets and 2x4's. I use a laser line to do my corners which is the most important part. From there I run mason cord corner to corner getting everything square before marking where my posts are going to be placed. To me the extra time is well spent since it has eliminated the possibility of errors. Saying that, I understand getting things done quicker but having a cord that is flexible means that the measurement is prone to error unless you calibrate it regularly. I wish you the best of luck with this device.
I had to re-calculate as I dug each post hole as I hit rocks sometimes too large to bust through with a 17# pike. Had a network of buried electric, gas, cable & phone lines that were marked off that I had to work around.
A rubber band type measuring device goes against all the laws of horizontal surveying the surveyors make every effort to avoid anything that stretches', so how does it maintain a accurate length? More info needed.
Hey Joe, is this the 6, 7, or 8 ft OC Equalizer that you’re using here? Haven’t used yet, and looking to get, but that’s what I’m lost on and finding info isn’t there…..when ordering and CHOOSING 6, 7, 8, 10 Ft OC Equalizer, and making sure get the right one. If this the 8 FT OC and it depends on the “stretch”, could you get 6 ft OC for posts if wanted, or will they always be 8 ft OC b/c it’s the 8 ft Equalizer. Appreciate the help and this vid👍🏻 Be Well✌🏻
Now I believe using tongue and groove vinyl boards is the way to go because you never know what the ground conditions might be some of your panels might need to be over 8 feet some less.
Or lay out the 2x4s which you’ll need there anyway, put a block and at the end just split the last two sections however. Big or small job, 2x4s need to be carried/ laid out..
That definitely works if the post spacing is going to work out to full length, this tool really seems to shine when the post spacing needs to be equal but less than the full 8' on center.
That is exactly the way a nonprofessional that takes no pride in their work would do it! All 8 foot sections with two 5 foot 8 inch sections on the end!
Sorry Joe. As a fencer this would be a big waste of money. Between wearing the line out with the auger, dirt detail, and even filling the hole up with a shovel will either cut it or wear it out prematurely. Just use regular mason's string line and a tape.
@@grantraker for a home owner that would be great. But as a professional fencer this would be a major hassle. Why would I add a second string line to my tool box when I already have a string, tape and a calculator?
Its for speed, if you do it for a living, its a tool. The company that came up with this also uses the markers o. The bungee so you don't have to paint the grass
$295 for string, over $1000 if you do all diffrent sizes of fences and one stray razor blade away from being useless? I think my ferring strip yard stick will stick around alittle while longer lmao
I’m sure it’s possible, we’ve been using ours for several years without issue. Luckily we don’t have stray razors floating around, if someone does throw razor blades in with their equipment I agree that this wouldn’t be an ideal tool.
Nifty, but I can string up and paint my post location with even spacing in 4:59 as it is. Also, why bother with paint at that point? Just fallow the tabs and run with it.
Why do you recommend a tool cost 200-300 for regular homeowners???? Maybe thats for professionals that they use that tool on dayly basis. Maybe another video for regular owner😊
YT is really strict about paid promotions and being clear about whether or not videos are promotional in nature. The content of this video was close enough to seeming like promotional that we wanted to be clear about not being promotional so we didn’t risk it being taken down.
Nope... that won’t work. Your string line steaks are past the corners by multiple feet. If you steak the exact corner how do you dig the hole??? Math isn’t that hard if you can’t divide xx’ in to equal sections maybe you shouldn’t be building a fence. It’s pretty simple.
You are correct the way he set it up would not work we now offer the equalizer with an offset cable so that you can dig your hole with the line set up been using this tool for two years on all types of fence and its down right the easiest way to layout a fence
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To all fence builders, I mow for a living. I take exception to a 4' gate. Only a tiny mower would fit thru that. The most popular size mower is 52" so I vote for a 60" gate. 😢
For $285, I think I'll do the old fashioned way with string line, a sharpie pen, a little math and then maybe some ground paint. For the multiple types of fence and different spacing requirements, having to purchase multiples of this tool are a bit costly. I love the tool but not the price.
Yeah, my jaw dropped when I saw that price. NO thanks.
Exactly @@triggerguard1
Exactly..that's crazy...
I have been a fence installer for 35 years now. I assume that this particular fence is for a wood fence due to the 8' or less layout between posts. At 20' it only took me about five seconds to do the math in my head to set the posts at 6'8". When you mention the next line was 70' I immediately would have decided to set the posts at 7' but then you mention a 4' gate. Still simple math but takes about a minute to deduce what the spacing should be. 70-4=66. Determine which number times(X) 8 equals or is greater than 66, which is 9 at 72 because 8 is only 64 and too short. This only takes a few seconds. Now you know you need 9 sections, 66x12=792, that's how many inches you have, divide that by 9 to get how many inches to space each post which is 88, go with that or divide that by 12 to get measurement in feet, which comes to 7.333" or basically 7'4". This method is even quicker with a smart phone calculator rather than using your carpenter's pencil scribbling on a piece of cardboard. I would much rather do this, which shouldn't take much longer than using this bungee cord tool and spending the money to buy it with the tool's longevity in question. I can pull my 300' tape, do my math, and make my paint marks just as quick, give or take 2-3 minutes.
Unfortunately, we can’t hire 35 year old veterans for every crew. Wish we could!
@@JoeEverest True, but hopefully you have a well trained leader leading the crew! That is simple and basic math! I could do that type of math before graduating high school!
Hey Shadowears, question .. I am not very math savvy but trying to build a fence.. say if I got 1 straight section with a 4' gate somewhere in the middle, I would place my 2 end posts and the 2 gate posts where ever I want, and then say using your measurements above I would have 7.4' in between the gate post + next line post on both sides? Or does the gate posts positioning have an effect on this? TIA.
@@jmaclicious10 I am assuming that you wish to install a wood privacy fence. The equation I listed above is for wood fences only due to standard 2"X4" lengths are 8' long. Chainlink fence has a spacing of 10' maximum distance. You can place your end posts wherever you want to and your gate posts wherever it would be the most convenient for you and then measure the distance between each end post and gate post and use the equation for each measurement. Hope this answers your question! If not feel free to ask me again. If you can supply me with your exact measurements I will be glad to give you the exact measurements to space your posts. And for a heads up, if your fence is on a slope and not level ground, when you build your gate you will want to put the hinges on the lower gate post. If not the gate will hit the ground whenever you try to open it. And yes, the positioning of the posts and overall distance has an effect on this. The numbers I used above is the placement of the posts for the measurements given in the video.
@@shadowears Yeah, it will be wood construction, either 4x4x12 or 6x6x12 post, haven't decided yet, kind of leaning towards the 4x4 posts that we're allowed 6'6" high (planning to dig approx 54" deep to allow 6" gravel at the bottom of post and then set in 3/4 down(i live in central canada with crazy deep frost thaw cycles). the current fence thats now falling over is 4x4 green treated and has been here for 25+ years. I dont have the exact measurements just yet, however I will be getting them soon once all the shrubs are cleared. I know the back where I want the gate is around 766 13/16" give or take from my neighbors fence to my other neighbors fence. Another question.. does spanning my fence rails across the face of the posts alternating joints give me better strength/less chance at twisting than the galvanized rail brackets in between the posts? Really appreciate the help!
What if you are doing a 500' fence would you need more bungee? Does it connect to others or would you just drive a stake and keep starting over?
One issue I have dealt with fencing sections can vary 2-3 inches. Go to your supplier and actually measure and you will see that. I have had this happen multiple times at different suppliers. I actually quit using prefabricated sections and use individual pickets and 2x4's. I use a laser line to do my corners which is the most important part. From there I run mason cord corner to corner getting everything square before marking where my posts are going to be placed. To me the extra time is well spent since it has eliminated the possibility of errors.
Saying that, I understand getting things done quicker but having a cord that is flexible means that the measurement is prone to error unless you calibrate it regularly. I wish you the best of luck with this device.
I had to re-calculate as I dug each post hole as I hit rocks sometimes too large to bust through with a 17# pike. Had a network of buried electric, gas, cable & phone lines that were marked off that I had to work around.
A rubber band type measuring device goes against all the laws of horizontal surveying the surveyors make every effort to avoid anything that stretches', so how does it maintain a accurate length? More info needed.
Did I miss squaring the corners?
This may be one of Shawns best inventions. Very handy tool
I've built a few fences, and wow.. that's amazing. Thank you for sharing!
Quick question, how did yo get it square?
I ordered one. Dont think itll arrive by the weekend >.
Hey Joe, is this the 6, 7, or 8 ft OC Equalizer that you’re using here? Haven’t used yet, and looking to get, but that’s what I’m lost on and finding info isn’t there…..when ordering and CHOOSING 6, 7, 8, 10 Ft OC Equalizer, and making sure get the right one.
If this the 8 FT OC and it depends on the “stretch”, could you get 6 ft OC for posts if wanted, or will they always be 8 ft OC b/c it’s the 8 ft Equalizer.
Appreciate the help and this vid👍🏻
Be Well✌🏻
@@JoeEverest Ahh, ok, thx SO MUCH, appreciate the reply and HELP!👍🏻
Have a good one✌🏻
Nice share. And it’s Shawn King approved.
Need a tiny one for deck spindles!
Can you buy this product from UK?
Now I believe using tongue and groove vinyl boards is the way to go because you never know what the ground conditions might be some of your panels might need to be over 8 feet some less.
Will it work if your offsetting existing footings ?
I'd assume you need to verify the measurements every so often. What happens when the bungee starts to break down and stretching unevenly
Great point, it would be a good idea to check them quarterly or so.
I bought these for our trucks a while ago and haven’t heard what the guys think of them yet.
wow great post!
Or lay out the 2x4s which you’ll need there anyway, put a block and at the end just split the last two sections however. Big or small job, 2x4s need to be carried/ laid out..
That definitely works if the post spacing is going to work out to full length, this tool really seems to shine when the post spacing needs to be equal but less than the full 8' on center.
That is exactly the way a nonprofessional that takes no pride in their work would do it! All 8 foot sections with two 5 foot 8 inch sections on the end!
Dang! I need this. Probably too late. 😢
Sorry Joe. As a fencer this would be a big waste of money. Between wearing the line out with the auger, dirt detail, and even filling the hole up with a shovel will either cut it or wear it out prematurely. Just use regular mason's string line and a tape.
Once you have the posts marked could you remove the line and use mason string from there on? To preserve the tool’s life.
@@grantraker for a home owner that would be great. But as a professional fencer this would be a major hassle. Why would I add a second string line to my tool box when I already have a string, tape and a calculator?
You could make the same product with any sturdy bungee cord
Its for speed, if you do it for a living, its a tool. The company that came up with this also uses the markers o. The bungee so you don't have to paint the grass
How to get hold of one as I live in New zealand
ingenious!
Agreed!
Great info. Thanks!
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I appreciate the heads up, should be fixed now!
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$295 for string, over $1000 if you do all diffrent sizes of fences and one stray razor blade away from being useless? I think my ferring strip yard stick will stick around alittle while longer lmao
I’m sure it’s possible, we’ve been using ours for several years without issue. Luckily we don’t have stray razors floating around, if someone does throw razor blades in with their equipment I agree that this wouldn’t be an ideal tool.
Nifty, but I can string up and paint my post location with even spacing in 4:59 as it is.
Also, why bother with paint at that point? Just fallow the tabs and run with it.
Why do you recommend a tool cost 200-300 for regular homeowners???? Maybe thats for professionals that they use that tool on dayly basis. Maybe another video for regular owner😊
thats nifty but if you arent running a fence crew you can do the same thing with string.
Absolutely, this really combines a string line with a pre-marked measuring tape!
im curious why give disclaimer of NOT paid promotion ? does that turn ppl away from watching or related for legal reasons ?
YT is really strict about paid promotions and being clear about whether or not videos are promotional in nature. The content of this video was close enough to seeming like promotional that we wanted to be clear about not being promotional so we didn’t risk it being taken down.
It also lets viewers know that he wasn’t paid to use a product so you know that his opinion is his honest opinion, not one he was paid to have.
Cool dj projects sub poped over like what see sir
Interesting that you say exactly when all you done was eyed it up give or take 1 foot😅😅
Hope you have a good lawyer
😂 how so
590 bucks. LOL
It’s like 500 dollars, are you shitting me?
Nope... that won’t work. Your string line steaks are past the corners by multiple feet. If you steak the exact corner how do you dig the hole???
Math isn’t that hard if you can’t divide xx’ in to equal sections maybe you shouldn’t be building a fence. It’s pretty simple.
You are correct the way he set it up would not work we now offer the equalizer with an offset cable so that you can dig your hole with the line set up been using this tool for two years on all types of fence and its down right the easiest way to layout a fence