Because I will look and listen to this video a couple of more times in the future (and you might too). Love the knowledge, enthusiasm and energy you share Markus :))) 6:18 Zoom H1 $100 7:00 Zoom H1n $80 7:48 Audio Limited A10 $1600 8:52 Lectrosonics PDR $800 *** 10:35 Tascam DR05 $120 11:31 Saramonic SR-VRM1 $100 *** 12:29 Tentacle Sync Track E $350 *** 14:36 Tascam DR-10L $150 *** 15:57 Tascam DR40 $80 16:47 Zaxcom ZFR400 $1000 *** 21:21 Zoom F2 $180 22:49 Fostex FR2LE Super Mod $100 24:29 Nagra 7 $2500 (best) 25:00 Nagra SD $800 *** 26:25 Nagra Mezzo $350 27:05 Roland R05 $150 *** 28:26 Roland R07 $199 *** 28:58 Roland R-26 $100 *** 30:16 Sony PCM-D100 $1000 31:17 Zoom F1 $170 31:52 Zoom H2n $180 32:16 Sony A7SIII $3500 32:35 Sony A7C $2000 32:52 Panasonic Lumix G7 $600 33:12 Panasonic Lumix G100 $600 33:25 Sony RX100VII $1300 33:53 Panasonic VX981 $800 34:15 Sony Z90V $2800
When Markus decides to deliver content, he does not only deliver, he over, over, over-deliver. I am impressed with how amazing his content is. He delivers technical information in a way that you can´t stop the video. I already got myself using my cellphone to move around my house just to not stop seeing a video. I have to say that Markus is a better teacher than I, even with my +20 years of experience teaching grads.
Hard to put into words how much I got from this video. Thank you for the many hours it must have taken to record and edit all of this. Thank you so much. Peter.
I just want to tell you how much I appreciate your content. I started my journey with recording in camera, graduating to Tascam and Zoom field products, and now working with Sound Devices. I still tell my students that they can use those retired iPhones in their drawers. Thank you for providing options at all price points. I love your attitude.
I can really appreciate the amount of effort you put into making this video. Chopping it up and combining all of those different recordings had to be a real task.
LOVE your reviews, Markus! Here is why: 1) No BS just the facts 2) You are not afraid to give your recommendations. This is a BIGGY for me as too many Utubers just show stuff without evalutory comments. So often it is impossible to judge over a tiny computer screen/speaker what is good or bad. 3) Your modesty. Seriously, you are able to make cost effective recommendations, while also describing the pro, expensive gear too. I love the fact that you are financially blessed, but still keep your feet on the ground. 4) No background music! Yey! Who needs distracting music, which just makes listening to the dialog more difficult. 5) Absolutely top quality recording/editing technique. Your movie experience shines here as every video is tops for both visuals and audio. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Please keep on with your channel and may God bless you as you bless us, your subscribers. :)
Thanks Marcus. You always have priceless contents that I can't find in other "audio expert" channels. I like the real world test and also the way you do the magic on the post processing. Awesome!
A very nice collection of digital field recorders. I personally have 5 different TASCAM, 4 different ZOOM portable field units ranging from camera mountable to professional audio field recorders. Each one started life as remote recording units and as I upgraded some found their way onto camera mounts and others are permanently attached to my computer analog or usb outputs. Some have built in (or detachable) microphones and others are 100% outboard microphone units. They're so cute and except for my newest ZOOM purchase generally not too expensive Most of my units are 4 or more track capable with the newest being 8 track capable I think you have me beat for portable recorders. Of the units you've shown I only have one matching unit with yours. That's probably because I generally need 4 or more tracks when recording remote sound.
The older Zoom H2 could do this too. But what makes the H2n even better is the center microphone at the front. Which gives you so much better center dialog presence and making this this thing even more usable than just the normal 4 channels on the H2.
I have a couple of the units you reviewed. The Zoom H2n is an amazing recording even though the menus are a challenge. Post processing a signal in one of the modes they provide make this unit tough to beat in a noisy environment. You can adjust the focus of the audio to the point it nearly eliminates off axis sounds. Once you have it setup, it is just a matter of turning it on and pressing record. Not a complicated in the long run. I have a Tascam DR-07 Mkii and love it also. I use this one the most when i must use an external recorder. You are correct, they are amazing. I enjoy your channel very much.
Markus, I want to tell you how much I enjoy watching your videos. Your style of video is first rate, and you clearly explain everything. Keep up the great work.
Hi Markus, great series! Hopefully you will cover various Post Processing audio techniques... Perhaps Adobe Audition? Or other cheaper options. Also include the best settings. Thanks!
Roland and Tentacle Sync seem to be the least hissy, the Tascams do something strange with the mid frequencies. On the camera side, Panasonic G7 and Sony A7 are closer than I thought. Thanks Markus !
I like my Zoom H2n, it works great for me. The compressors and limiters are very useful, not much need for post editing anymore. Recently i used it for a voice over as a USB mic and, no noise at all! The various mics sound better than my Rode Wireless GoII.
It sounds great but the cheesy little button to navigate through the menu is so touchy it picks the wrong item and it takes 4 tries to get to whatever it is you want.
@@MarkusPix The H2N is a disaster and a disgrace. I have the Zoom6, the Tascam DR40 and the zoomH2. The disadvantage of the tascam is that you have to adjust the volume with a small button on the side instead of quickly on the front. Also, you can't level left and right separately. So with 2 xlr's unusable. You can set the zoom or not with phanton power and volume per channel. But it has no mini jack in. With 1 attachment there is 1 entrance but than no internal mic You have to re-train the H2N for operation every time you use it again after a while. It is too complicated. The worst part is that every touch of the H2N or of your headphones sounds like a drum solo in your recording. Yes, on a tripod, press the recording button, don't walk on the floor .... then it goes reasonably, but handheld or on a boom FORGET!... pfff, I'm going to sell it.
I have used the H2n for the last five years mounted on my Canon G40. Never had a problem with the menus. I record in M/S Raw for post production in Pro Tools. It works for me.
Markus, this IS my favourite channel. These speed reviews are epic! @13:00 … Re: you can’t distort your audio with 32 bit float…yes but as long as your mic itself can handle any super loud sounds you’re recording
I have a TASCAM DR-60 and a DR-05 plus a SONY dictaphone which I no longer use. The DR-05 was cheap as new but the brand new DR-60 was cheap because it was a Mk I and they brought out a Mk II. Another device made by ZOOM is the Q2n and Q2n 4K which is a camera and audio recorder in one. Saves you having to record the audio separately if you want to do something quick. I used it to record some podcasts and the quality was great. Especially if it is just for online stuff. Love these videos. So informative and interesting to watch. Thanks Markus, you legend!
Thanks Marcus! I commented on your last video about audio, Tom (55, Master Plumber) from Boston. You nicely commented back. I'm still scouring for my first "real camera"...so many choices, but I'm close. I'll likely end up with a couple since I like your idea of small, readily transportable cameras. I have a journey in mind with shooting video/stills of my friends and family and some wildlife (hummingbirds in Maine). One thing I know is that I'll be recording audio separately! Seems like we both like to share our experience as I've taught many Apprentice Plumbers.
When I have enough money I will be buying an actual video camera.. A slightly older model.. In a couple of his videos Markus said about the Sony CX675 he uses .. no mic jack.. also Panasonic V800 (my favourite, has a slight low light level failing) with mic jack's .. use them as well as separate audio.. for mixing, backup and sync .. get a bigger battery and charger and the correct SD cards total might be £450 / $500 .. that should give you a starting point to compare to...
This was great. Sticking my trusty DR-40 for my hobbyist/prosumer needs but this video was good learning. I use my Tascam specifically because I’m sometimes far from the camera in outdoor settings.
I realize this is an older video but I hope you're still reading the comments. I just discovered your channel and catching up on so many videos and absolutely adore your content; so well explained. And even though I had previously directed a movie and I'm a decent editor, your knowledge is priceless and really what I needed to boost the quality of my videos. Thank you so much and please keep making these videos! Needless to say I've subscribed!
Thank you soo verry much, I have been looking to get a recorder and new microphone setup your videos an perspectives are much appreciated, thank you :)
Than, you for doing these definitive tests, they are extremely well done and very usefu.. Also the video quality on the intro was amazing, perfectly lit, perfect.y shot.
This is the BEST audio recorder info I've seen so far! Really, really helpful, providing the actual samples directly from the devices, and then a post-process example! Never heard of the Saramonic SR-VRM1 (but want five of them now @ $100 each with different mics attatched for directional video\game tracks!), and that Tentacle Synch or the Zoom F2. Very surprised at the SOUND quality on those Sony CAMERAS, especially the little beauty Sony RX100vii at $1300. It's going to be only Peanut Butter Sandwiches again for dinner this year ...
Another great video for audio.. Loved it, however, I do disagree with you on the Zoom H2n recorder. Now I've used it on several projects even for live events and it's been an awesome little device. Even used it for a lav mic recording in a video I made for a client. Just wanted to give my 2 cents. Thank you again for making just an informative video.
It sounds good but the button to navigate through the menu is so touchy it picks the wrong item and it takes 4 tries to get to whatever it is you want.
@@MarkusPix But the unit works like a pro once you work out the menu. :) Again thank you so much for making these audio videos. Please make more my friend. :)
I bought the tentacle, based on your short review and 6 others that I had to take notes and splice together. Thanks bro for this and your other reviews
Thanks to your review, I picked up the 'sleeper' Roland R07 and it's become a favorite of mine, especially for music. The sound is full and rich in a way I couldn't squeeze out of the Zoom recorders. Just gotta watch for that low-end rumble outdoors. Furry cap is highly recommended. Thick wool sock might do in a pinch, though.
Super thorough as always. I use the Tascam Dr40 and Dr10l. I love both of them for their safety tracks and they sound great, but I am looking forward to the the new Zoom F3 with 32-bit float. It's very affordable and will save my ass when shooting weddings. I'm definitely buying one. It might become one of your new favorites
Thanks, Markus. Your audio series has been awesome! I'm guessing Cara doesn't care for this stuff, as she was obviously absent from this one. Tell her I said, "Hi!"
I've used an old Google phone to record external audio and it works perfectly for me. I can bring the audio into Audacity or Reaper to tweak if need be and then bring it right back into Media Composer to sync with the video.
Markus, thank you so much for your incredible effort and super informative and entertaining audio series (and other videos on your channel). I love hear from your 1st hand user experience with such a wide range of equipment. That Tentacle Sync blew me away with its relatively clean simple design and high quality 32 bit recording.
Hi Markus, can u give us a tutorials, what kind of chain processing steps for a great voice sound? I really appreciate for what you've shared... thank u so much
That was a great video, thanks for all the work. I've been using a R-09 since it was new and now (2023) it's still a go-to for field recording and even some studio work when I know it'll the "the sound" I'm looking for. After watching your video though, I'm seriously considering adding the DPA mic to my collection.
But his audio clearly sound way professional than an iPhone audio. Sometime I stop watching a video because of poor audio quality. iPhone audio for amateurs and voice recorder for professionals.
Nice vid Markus. The funny thing is I'm in the market for a small external recorder. The timing of this video is perfect! Since I do this as only a hobby, I don't need all those bells and whistles. The Tentacle Sync recorder is perfect. All I need is a record button.
Hi Markus and thanks for such a useful video. 1-When you say that "posprocessing is applied", what postprocessing steps are applied? Is it standard steps or do you do it by listening to each record and boost / change the recorded sound differently for each different take? 2- How could we listen to the sound not lossy compressed? RUclips audio codec AAC / Opus removes certain frequencies and shape the sound so alter the sound for compression. Most people don't ear the difference but I do. I can hear on certain recorders the sound being saturated for certain post processed versions. 3-Battery life and recharge all those recorders comes with a certain battery life. Now I suppose you use rechargeable batteries. Could you recharge them inside the recorder or do you need an external recharger? Thanks again.
This was a great watch, loved learning and hearing more of these while in the market for a recorder. Thanks! Poor little H2n though, I have one, I absolutely love using the thing, and its surround features are fantastic for large venues with people talking all around it and ambient recordings.
Epic! Epic fun! Thank you. Many classics. For dubbing my archive analog audio for posterity a Tascam DR-2d. Zoom H5 for pro mics where I love its port to run from a power bank.
This video is great. You're a serious tech geek (modifying the damned circuitry in that one...) The video is like a great meal, a smorgasbord of audio recorders. Really good.
Markus - thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and equipment. This must have been a huge undertaking and I really appreciate the effort and information to make this video. You rock dude!
Amazing detailed video! I own the A7C (for photos mainly), A7S3 (for videos mainly), & I plug mics directly into them, despite what audiophiles say. I recently grabbed the DJI mic (mainly to record audio directly to the receiver) for when using a Drone as a flying tripod.
Love what you did here! We too own the Nagra SD, and man, it is a super-convenient and *beautiful* sounding kit. We've taken it everywhere and used it successfully on hundreds of radio projects (interviews, music, ambiance). The green band stereo mic with a little Rycote windjammer makes a killer combo. That omni sure sounded good though, may need to find one...
That *was* epic. Wow. What a great job! That must have been a ton of effort to put together! The funny part is that.., to my untrained ear, they all sounded quite serviceable, give or take. (With the exception of that giant Fostex FR2LE Super Mod. That DID sound noticeably warmer and just.., nicer somehow. That's impressive when a guy like me can instantly perk up and think, "Dang. That IS nice.") I wouldn't have minded seeing the Zoom H6 in there, (I keep wanting to pick one up when I see them used), though I get why you didn't include it. It's a bit of a different beast. -Also, the Zoom Podtrak P4 is really cool, for specific use cases. I feel like I'm cheating somehow, using it as the audio guts of a 4 mic studio setup, but it's been fantastic!
Thanks for a really interesting survey of devices. Can you please tell us what program you use for audio post-processing, or what you'd recommend for a hobbyist?
Reaper is great and there are literally hundreds of free pluggins that you can find for it. There is a channel call Reaper Mania that had very in depth tutorials to get you started. Reaper is free to download and use and, I believe, $60 for non pro users and it's based on an honor system. Audacity is another option. It's more limited than Reaper but super easy to use for basic audio sweetening.
If I want to film everyday life, travel, walk tour to capture the environment and product reviews where I will behind the camera most of the time to do the talking, elements record for game making and I want to experiment music making with singing and instrument too and the video will be shot with a Panasonic HC-X1500 camcorder and Sony A7RV, what minimal multi use cases no show on screen audio setups are right for me, should I get just one stereo super cardioid shotgun mic or an omnidirectional audio recorder to do it all or combination of them to cover stereo and mono needs? That camcorder has an optional handle with LED and 2 XLR inputs but the setup will be tall even before add the mics, is XLR necessary and will I able to use the XLR handle on the camcorder as music recorder? The gear I have in mind are the unique looking stereo Sennheiser MKE 440, Deity V Mic D4 Duo, Sony ECM-B1M, Sony PCM-A10 recorder, Zoom H2n, Saramonic SR-VRM1, Roland R07 and Zoom H3-VR.
You made a lable mistake at 29:36 Sony R26 Should have been Roland R26 Thought you might want to know. I'm enjoying all these audio videos. I know it takes a lot of your time and effort to make these videos and you are doing it for FREE ( no youtube ads ) and am very appreciative of that. Markus Pix 👍
An awesome video. Thanks for sharing. I have a Zoom H2n as well but don’t find it disgusting. In fact, I find it very fun to use especially with built-in spacial mics.
Probably everyone here knows this, but your camera will also record audio while your portable recorder is working closer for clarity and detail. With no time code linking camera and recorder, to can open both audio files for sync - just match the waveform. The camera audio can then act as a "room" mic in case your digital recorder audio is too dry. Rather than adding reverb, the mix of a little camera audio - recorded in the same acoustic - can be more subtle. Many thanks for this comparison video - very useful.
Slowly advancing through watching your videos...thanks again for all that precious information! I'm really curious to know which XLR mics you've found to work best with the Fostex FR2-LE...I've got a chance to maybe pick one up! Love that old school, no nonsense reliable stuff!
Best mics to use with FOSTEX FR2LE-SM Schoeps CMIT 5U Sennheiser 614 Sanken COS11D XLR ** Countryman B6 DPA 4017 DPA 4080 Sennheiser ME102-XLR NeewerStudio NW1500 Audio technica AT899 Do not use Sennheiser AVX wireless
@@MarkusPix Not even helf an hour until you responded....unbelievable. Dankeschön! The Schoeps would of course be a dream, but someone only dabbling with all that stuff as a hobby does NOT need something as expensive as that one. Or so I try to convince myself - and my wallet agrees. 😂 So, thanks for the quick reply!
Please note that some cameras only record at 16-bit instead of 24-bit, so certain kinds of post processing will be more difficult with that camera audio because you’re working with less information.
Good video Markus, I have seen the video and I liked it a lot. I'm looking for a voice recorder with lavalier input (like the Zoom F2) that can fit into a motorcycle helmet. The question is that I can't find anything, do you know of any voice recorder that may have those requirements? I had something in mind about the size of a HollyLand Lark M1 microphone but there was no voice recorder that has that size and lavalier input. Thank you very much in advance and keep it up. PS: Having the recorder in the jacket and passing the lavalier to the helmet seems to me that over time the cable can break and I don't want that to happen.
Helpful video Markus. Thanks. Its so interesting isnt it, the things people use. The things that work for individuals and the things that dont! I own a Zoom H2N and I love it, but i am a musician and I only use it to record quick ideas and its fantastic for that.. you obviously had issues with that particular recorder and you didn't hold back in your very scathing review! Funny.. if I hadn't bought the H2N before watching this, then perhaps I wouldn't have it now! Great content.
Marcus my man, thank you so much on this video! I've tried a lot recorders and couldn't agree more with you! Also, Zoom has A LOT of new series of recorders that are pretty damn cool. Thank you man for this video! :)
Just ordered H1N because removable batteries. Oh dear gonna watch this what you are going to say about these. Well it seems that H1n will be ok :) Great review. I like the most that you have human oriented style. That makes the life of your videos.
I have only a Tascam DR-40, I LOVE it... The built-in mics are ok and it can power XLR microphones as well. I have it for several years, mine is Black, not gray as yours. Just a little advice: It has a firmware update that fixes some bugs and also makes the recording quality a bit better... It also makes the battery last a bit longer.
I second (or triple?) "xjet's" question below? post-processing? - I love all of your experience with so much equipment! But, when you say "this is what it sounds like with post-processing"? Is your post-processing different each time? Or is there some basic "post-processing" rules you apply each time to get a decent sound?
Thanks for the interesting video. Which recorder would you recommend that is as small and “cheaper” as possible for very good recordings in churches (strings, singing, organ)?
I personally chose the zoom h1n because of its multi use. I can use the built in mic to record ambience and other sfx. I can also use it as a USB mic/interface. And I can stand a few feet away and it sounds like I'm directly infront of it. Also, one thing to know. The playback volume buttons RATTLE. I was able to solve this by putting some tape over the buttons to hold them in place. So if you do use the built-in mic, you will notice the rattle unless you secure it with some tape. I just used a small piece of frog tape and it works fine. I primarily use a usb battery bank to power it, as the rechargable AAA batteries I use don't last that long.
Hi Markus, you say the Sony A7C is good for preamp/audio recorder, what do you think of the Sony microphone range for on and off camera. I've built my studio audio set up (Sennheiser MKE 60 boom mic with audio interface) based on some your recommendations and it sounds good. I'm about to start collecting footage and audio from outdoor settings with a Sony A7C and ECM-M1 shotgun mic for close talking head shots, I'll use a Zoom H1n and lav mic to record another audio track. But I'm interested in what you think about the A7C with the ECM-M1?
Thanks for your review. Very interesting. What do recomend post processing softwear for a beginner? You have a cool namn by the way! Best regards Markus Krans, Sweden
Note: the Roland R26 costs $100, not 1000 like it says in the video lol ... and its by Roland, not Sony. Too many things to watch out for :-)
I love my R26 :)
gotta getthe 10 pack man,,lol
You can't find the R26 any more man......$100?? Nope......Try $4-500
Would love to see your audio post-processing method/tutorial video, if you ever want to make one.
lmao you’d be lucky to find r26 for $100 now its too good
Because I will look and listen to this video a couple of more times in the future (and you might too). Love the knowledge, enthusiasm and energy you share Markus :)))
6:18 Zoom H1 $100
7:00 Zoom H1n $80
7:48 Audio Limited A10 $1600
8:52 Lectrosonics PDR $800 ***
10:35 Tascam DR05 $120
11:31 Saramonic SR-VRM1 $100 ***
12:29 Tentacle Sync Track E $350 ***
14:36 Tascam DR-10L $150 ***
15:57 Tascam DR40 $80
16:47 Zaxcom ZFR400 $1000 ***
21:21 Zoom F2 $180
22:49 Fostex FR2LE Super Mod $100
24:29 Nagra 7 $2500 (best)
25:00 Nagra SD $800 ***
26:25 Nagra Mezzo $350
27:05 Roland R05 $150 ***
28:26 Roland R07 $199 ***
28:58 Roland R-26 $100 ***
30:16 Sony PCM-D100 $1000
31:17 Zoom F1 $170
31:52 Zoom H2n $180
32:16 Sony A7SIII $3500
32:35 Sony A7C $2000
32:52 Panasonic Lumix G7 $600
33:12 Panasonic Lumix G100 $600
33:25 Sony RX100VII $1300
33:53 Panasonic VX981 $800
34:15 Sony Z90V $2800
D.B. ................thanks ,from weeks from now !!!!!!
Thanks for this!
TYSM!!! This needs to be pinned
KING.
Thanks for this!! Have. Nice day
Markus, it is REALLY nice of you to do all this hard work for us. You're a gem! Thank you!
When Markus decides to deliver content, he does not only deliver, he over, over, over-deliver. I am impressed with how amazing his content is. He delivers technical information in a way that you can´t stop the video. I already got myself using my cellphone to move around my house just to not stop seeing a video. I have to say that Markus is a better teacher than I, even with my +20 years of experience teaching grads.
If teachers in high school were more like you, I would have learned more. I appreciate all your hard work to share knowledge and information. :)
I think what we all want to know now is: how do you do your post-processing? :-)
Hard to put into words how much I got from this video. Thank you for the many hours it must have taken to record and edit all of this. Thank you so much. Peter.
Thanks for the file. Very helpful. Great video as always. Please consider doing a video on audio post processing.
Can't wait...
I just want to tell you how much I appreciate your content.
I started my journey with recording in camera, graduating to Tascam and Zoom field products, and now working with Sound Devices. I still tell my students that they can use those retired iPhones in their drawers. Thank you for providing options at all price points. I love your attitude.
Thank you
I can really appreciate the amount of effort you put into making this video. Chopping it up and combining all of those different recordings had to be a real task.
Completely nerding out on this series....thanks for doing this.
Glad you enjoy it!
LOVE your reviews, Markus! Here is why:
1) No BS just the facts
2) You are not afraid to give your recommendations. This is a BIGGY for me as too many Utubers just show stuff without evalutory comments. So often it is impossible to judge over a tiny computer screen/speaker what is good or bad.
3) Your modesty. Seriously, you are able to make cost effective recommendations, while also describing the pro, expensive gear too. I love the fact that you are financially blessed, but still keep your feet on the ground.
4) No background music! Yey! Who needs distracting music, which just makes listening to the dialog more difficult.
5) Absolutely top quality recording/editing technique. Your movie experience shines here as every video is tops for both visuals and audio.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Please keep on with your channel and may God bless you as you bless us, your subscribers. :)
I like the pace of your narration. Not eeking out one word at a time, talking to me like I'm a five-year-old.
Thanks Marcus. You always have priceless contents that I can't find in other "audio expert" channels. I like the real world test and also the way you do the magic on the post processing. Awesome!
A very nice collection of digital field recorders. I personally have 5 different TASCAM, 4 different ZOOM portable field units ranging from camera mountable to professional audio field recorders. Each one started life as remote recording units and as I upgraded some found their way onto camera mounts and others are permanently attached to my computer analog or usb outputs. Some have built in (or detachable) microphones and others are 100% outboard microphone units. They're so cute and except for my newest ZOOM purchase generally not too expensive Most of my units are 4 or more track capable with the newest being 8 track capable I think you have me beat for portable recorders. Of the units you've shown I only have one matching unit with yours. That's probably because I generally need 4 or more tracks when recording remote sound.
The H2N records 360-degree surround sound. That's the reason for buying it. It is certified for recording 360 audio for VR environments, etc.
Exactly
The older Zoom H2 could do this too. But what makes the H2n even better is the center microphone at the front. Which gives you so much better center dialog presence and making this this thing even more usable than just the normal 4 channels on the H2.
Thank you again Markus this is a huge undertaking. Love your passion for the technology
I have a couple of the units you reviewed. The Zoom H2n is an amazing recording even though the menus are a challenge. Post processing a signal in one of the modes they provide make this unit tough to beat in a noisy environment. You can adjust the focus of the audio to the point it nearly eliminates off axis sounds. Once you have it setup, it is just a matter of turning it on and pressing record. Not a complicated in the long run. I have a Tascam DR-07 Mkii and love it also. I use this one the most when i must use an external recorder. You are correct, they are amazing. I enjoy your channel very much.
The Saramonic seem to stand out Instantly to my ears out of all the rest. Amazing video. Thanks. 🤩
i feel the same with saramonic device
I'm really loving this series. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
Markus, I want to tell you how much I enjoy watching your videos. Your style of video is first rate, and you clearly explain everything. Keep up the great work.
Hi Markus, great series! Hopefully you will cover various Post Processing audio techniques... Perhaps Adobe Audition? Or other cheaper options. Also include the best settings. Thanks!
Can't wait...
If you want a full blown DAW download Reaper, if you just wanted something simple and free for audio sweetening get Audacity. Both are great.
Roland and Tentacle Sync seem to be the least hissy, the Tascams do something strange with the mid frequencies. On the camera side, Panasonic G7 and Sony A7 are closer than I thought. Thanks Markus !
Thumbs up for including (and explaining why) the raw and processed audio! Thank you
I like my Zoom H2n, it works great for me. The compressors and limiters are very useful, not much need for post editing anymore. Recently i used it for a voice over as a USB mic and, no noise at all! The various mics sound better than my Rode Wireless GoII.
It sounds great but the cheesy little button to navigate through the menu is so touchy it picks the wrong item and it takes 4 tries to get to whatever it is you want.
@@MarkusPix The H2N is a disaster and a disgrace.
I have the Zoom6, the Tascam DR40 and the zoomH2. The disadvantage of the tascam is that you have to adjust the volume with a small button on the side instead of quickly on the front. Also, you can't level left and right separately. So with 2 xlr's unusable. You can set the zoom or not with phanton power and volume per channel. But it has no mini jack in. With 1 attachment there is 1 entrance but than no internal mic
You have to re-train the H2N for operation every time you use it again after a while. It is too complicated. The worst part is that every touch of the H2N or of your headphones sounds like a drum solo in your recording. Yes, on a tripod, press the recording button, don't walk on the floor .... then it goes reasonably, but handheld or on a boom FORGET!... pfff, I'm going to sell it.
I have used the H2n for the last five years mounted on my Canon G40. Never had a problem with the menus. I record in M/S Raw for post production in Pro Tools. It works for me.
@@MarkusPix Hi Markus! Yes, that button is somehow weird, tricky to use at times!
Markus, this IS my favourite channel. These speed reviews are epic! @13:00 … Re: you can’t distort your audio with 32 bit float…yes but as long as your mic itself can handle any super loud sounds you’re recording
I have a TASCAM DR-60 and a DR-05 plus a SONY dictaphone which I no longer use. The DR-05 was cheap as new but the brand new DR-60 was cheap because it was a Mk I and they brought out a Mk II. Another device made by ZOOM is the Q2n and Q2n 4K which is a camera and audio recorder in one. Saves you having to record the audio separately if you want to do something quick. I used it to record some podcasts and the quality was great. Especially if it is just for online stuff. Love these videos. So informative and interesting to watch. Thanks Markus, you legend!
Thanks Marcus! I commented on your last video about audio, Tom (55, Master Plumber) from Boston. You nicely commented back. I'm still scouring for my first "real camera"...so many choices, but I'm close. I'll likely end up with a couple since I like your idea of small, readily transportable cameras.
I have a journey in mind with shooting video/stills of my friends and family and some wildlife (hummingbirds in Maine). One thing I know is that I'll be recording audio separately!
Seems like we both like to share our experience as I've taught many Apprentice Plumbers.
When I have enough money I will be buying an actual video camera..
A slightly older model..
In a couple of his videos Markus said about the Sony CX675 he uses .. no mic jack..
also
Panasonic V800 (my favourite, has a slight low light level failing) with mic jack's .. use them as well as separate audio.. for mixing, backup and sync ..
get a bigger battery and charger and the correct SD cards total might be £450 / $500 .. that should give you a starting point to compare to...
11:02 "I love the size, and the shape and the way it feels in your hand"
that's what she said
This was great. Sticking my trusty DR-40 for my hobbyist/prosumer needs but this video was good learning. I use my Tascam specifically because I’m sometimes far from the camera in outdoor settings.
Would you make a video on how you actually process the audio to make it sound so wonderful......great content
Excatly! Me too! I
My understanding of recording sound in this framework was just catapulted to whole other level!!!! Thank you!!!!
I realize this is an older video but I hope you're still reading the comments. I just discovered your channel and catching up on so many videos and absolutely adore your content; so well explained. And even though I had previously directed a movie and I'm a decent editor, your knowledge is priceless and really what I needed to boost the quality of my videos. Thank you so much and please keep making these videos! Needless to say I've subscribed!
Thanks Retro Repair guy. Here's something retro you might like ruclips.net/video/vsgqODAmGtk/видео.html
Thank you soo verry much, I have been looking to get a recorder and new microphone setup your videos an perspectives are much appreciated, thank you :)
Than, you for doing these definitive tests, they are extremely well done and very usefu..
Also the video quality on the intro was amazing, perfectly lit, perfect.y shot.
This is the BEST audio recorder info I've seen so far! Really, really helpful, providing the actual samples directly from the devices, and then a post-process example! Never heard of the Saramonic SR-VRM1 (but want five of them now @ $100 each with different mics attatched for directional video\game tracks!), and that Tentacle Synch or the Zoom F2. Very surprised at the SOUND quality on those Sony CAMERAS, especially the little beauty Sony RX100vii at $1300. It's going to be only Peanut Butter Sandwiches again for dinner this year ...
Thank you so very much Markus! Superb insight and review of Sound Recorders. Simply excellent and will be referring when next in the market!
YES THANK YOU A WHOLE BUNCH!!! I've requested this review and here it is!! So excited(haven't even finished watching and commenting) hehehehe
Another great video for audio.. Loved it, however, I do disagree with you on the Zoom H2n recorder. Now I've used it on several projects even for live events and it's been an awesome little device. Even used it for a lav mic recording in a video I made for a client. Just wanted to give my 2 cents. Thank you again for making just an informative video.
It sounds good but the button to navigate through the menu is so touchy it picks the wrong item and it takes 4 tries to get to whatever it is you want.
@@MarkusPix But the unit works like a pro once you work out the menu. :)
Again thank you so much for making these audio videos. Please make more my friend. :)
I bought the tentacle, based on your short review and 6 others that I had to take notes and splice together. Thanks bro for this and your other reviews
Thanks to your review, I picked up the 'sleeper' Roland R07 and it's become a favorite of mine, especially for music. The sound is full and rich in a way I couldn't squeeze out of the Zoom recorders. Just gotta watch for that low-end rumble outdoors. Furry cap is highly recommended. Thick wool sock might do in a pinch, though.
Super thorough as always. I use the Tascam Dr40 and Dr10l. I love both of them for their safety tracks and they sound great, but I am looking forward to the the new Zoom F3 with 32-bit float. It's very affordable and will save my ass when shooting weddings. I'm definitely buying one. It might become one of your new favorites
Thanks, Markus. Your audio series has been awesome! I'm guessing Cara doesn't care for this stuff, as she was obviously absent from this one. Tell her I said, "Hi!"
So much information I needed to know just in the first 6 minutes, love the video, will continue watching now🙏🏽
Thanks so much for doing this video. The information is terrific. I look forward to each of your videos. So fun to watch.
I've used an old Google phone to record external audio and it works perfectly for me. I can bring the audio into Audacity or Reaper to tweak if need be and then bring it right back into Media Composer to sync with the video.
Will give this a try myself before I spend money on a recorder! Thanks for sharing how you do things :)
It's crazy, samsung galaxy ace has really good recording. Sound is great. It's better than many modern phones.
@@celechaYou can buy a lavalier mic for smartphone, like Boya. It has pretty decent sound.
Thanks, Markus. Really appreciate it. Another excellent video. Looking forward to the rest of the series
I'm now a subscriber!! I really wasn't expecting to find the human incarnation of HeMan... What a find 😮
Great demonstration and your due diligence and knowledge of each device really seals the realities on the whole sha-bang. Kudos Markus!
Markus, thank you so much for your incredible effort and super informative and entertaining audio series (and other videos on your channel). I love hear from your 1st hand user experience with such a wide range of equipment. That Tentacle Sync blew me away with its relatively clean simple design and high quality 32 bit recording.
This is truly informative and comprehensive. I am impressed by the research and effort you put in maling the document.
Really appreciate it. !
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have been using the Zoom H1n for a while and just picked up a Zoom H6 they both work great for what I do. Greg
Thanks Markus!! 💜
This was really informative to watch. So again, thanks for taking the time to share.
Hi Markus, can u give us a tutorials, what kind of chain processing steps for a great voice sound? I really appreciate for what you've shared... thank u so much
These Reviews are INCREDIBLE. So thankful that you do all this quality research and legwork for us. MUCH THANKS!
My pleasure!
That was a great video, thanks for all the work. I've been using a R-09 since it was new and now (2023) it's still a go-to for field recording and even some studio work when I know it'll the "the sound" I'm looking for. After watching your video though, I'm seriously considering adding the DPA mic to my collection.
Dude, thanks so much. I actually own an uninspiring Zoom H2n, which you hated. Thanks for crystallizing that, shopping for a Roland today!
The iPhone can work pretty well too with an app or even just using the Voice Memos app
True, with a good external microphone like the RØDE Lav+, and now even the RØDE Wireless Go II can connect to an iPhone. Results can be excellent.
But his audio clearly sound way professional than an iPhone audio. Sometime I stop watching a video because of poor audio quality. iPhone audio for amateurs and voice recorder for professionals.
Nice vid Markus. The funny thing is I'm in the market for a small external recorder. The timing of this video is perfect! Since I do this as only a hobby, I don't need all those bells and whistles. The Tentacle Sync recorder is perfect. All I need is a record button.
I was surprised by the noise floor on the DR-10L. Very noticeable after you treated it.
yeah, that's what you get for a cheap consumer device
Hi Markus and thanks for such a useful video.
1-When you say that "posprocessing is applied", what postprocessing steps are applied?
Is it standard steps or do you do it by listening to each record and boost / change the recorded sound differently for each different take?
2- How could we listen to the sound not lossy compressed?
RUclips audio codec AAC / Opus removes certain frequencies and shape the sound so alter the sound for compression.
Most people don't ear the difference but I do.
I can hear on certain recorders the sound being saturated for certain post processed versions.
3-Battery life and recharge
all those recorders comes with a certain battery life.
Now I suppose you use rechargeable batteries.
Could you recharge them inside the recorder or do you need an external recharger?
Thanks again.
Almost all of these use AA or AAA batteries. None have built in batteries.
This was a great watch, loved learning and hearing more of these while in the market for a recorder. Thanks! Poor little H2n though, I have one, I absolutely love using the thing, and its surround features are fantastic for large venues with people talking all around it and ambient recordings.
Even the bastard child needs love too 😄
Epic! Epic fun! Thank you. Many classics. For dubbing my archive analog audio for posterity a Tascam DR-2d. Zoom H5 for pro mics where I love its port to run from a power bank.
I really appreciate all your help Markus! Thank you, and very entertaining
This video is great. You're a serious tech geek (modifying the damned circuitry in that one...) The video is like a great meal, a smorgasbord of audio recorders. Really good.
This is fantastic content and coverage.
You add so much value to RUclips, thank you.
Markus - thanks so much for sharing your knowledge and equipment. This must have been a huge undertaking and I really appreciate the effort and information to make this video. You rock dude!
My pleasure!
Amazing detailed video! I own the A7C (for photos mainly), A7S3 (for videos mainly), & I plug mics directly into them, despite what audiophiles say. I recently grabbed the DJI mic (mainly to record audio directly to the receiver) for when using a Drone as a flying tripod.
I do enjoy your programs which are both thorough and well presented.
Love what you did here! We too own the Nagra SD, and man, it is a super-convenient and *beautiful* sounding kit. We've taken it everywhere and used it successfully on hundreds of radio projects (interviews, music, ambiance). The green band stereo mic with a little Rycote windjammer makes a killer combo. That omni sure sounded good though, may need to find one...
That *was* epic. Wow. What a great job! That must have been a ton of effort to put together!
The funny part is that.., to my untrained ear, they all sounded quite serviceable, give or take. (With the exception of that giant Fostex FR2LE Super Mod. That DID sound noticeably warmer and just.., nicer somehow. That's impressive when a guy like me can instantly perk up and think, "Dang. That IS nice.")
I wouldn't have minded seeing the Zoom H6 in there, (I keep wanting to pick one up when I see them used), though I get why you didn't include it. It's a bit of a different beast. -Also, the Zoom Podtrak P4 is really cool, for specific use cases. I feel like I'm cheating somehow, using it as the audio guts of a 4 mic studio setup, but it's been fantastic!
Loving the series...having this many recorders compared in one place is priceless.
Thanks for a really interesting survey of devices. Can you please tell us what program you use for audio post-processing, or what you'd recommend for a hobbyist?
Reaper is great and there are literally hundreds of free pluggins that you can find for it.
There is a channel call Reaper Mania that had very in depth tutorials to get you started.
Reaper is free to download and use and, I believe, $60 for non pro users and it's based on an honor system.
Audacity is another option. It's more limited than Reaper but super easy to use for basic audio sweetening.
Audacity or Dark Audacity... both good..
Thank you man! I can not wait for your next video! blessings!
If I want to film everyday life, travel, walk tour to capture the environment and product reviews where I will behind the camera most of the time to do the talking, elements record for game making and I want to experiment music making with singing and instrument too and the video will be shot with a Panasonic HC-X1500 camcorder and Sony A7RV, what minimal multi use cases no show on screen audio setups are right for me, should I get just one stereo super cardioid shotgun mic or an omnidirectional audio recorder to do it all or combination of them to cover stereo and mono needs? That camcorder has an optional handle with LED and 2 XLR inputs but the setup will be tall even before add the mics, is XLR necessary and will I able to use the XLR handle on the camcorder as music recorder? The gear I have in mind are the unique looking stereo Sennheiser MKE 440, Deity V Mic D4 Duo, Sony ECM-B1M, Sony PCM-A10 recorder, Zoom H2n, Saramonic SR-VRM1, Roland R07 and Zoom H3-VR.
You made a lable mistake at 29:36
Sony R26 Should have been Roland R26
Thought you might want to know.
I'm enjoying all these audio videos.
I know it takes a lot of your time and effort to make these videos and you are doing it for FREE ( no youtube ads ) and am very appreciative of that.
Markus Pix 👍
You always give straight forward information. Thank you.
Always wonderful to see/listen to your videos Markus! If you want to do a part 2 to recorders you can borrow my Sound Devices 664,633 and mixPre 10-2.
An awesome video. Thanks for sharing. I have a Zoom H2n as well but don’t find it disgusting. In fact, I find it very fun to use especially with built-in spacial mics.
Probably everyone here knows this, but your camera will also record audio while your portable recorder is working closer for clarity and detail. With no time code linking camera and recorder, to can open both audio files for sync - just match the waveform.
The camera audio can then act as a "room" mic in case your digital recorder audio is too dry. Rather than adding reverb, the mix of a little camera audio - recorded in the same acoustic - can be more subtle.
Many thanks for this comparison video - very useful.
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Slowly advancing through watching your videos...thanks again for all that precious information! I'm really curious to know which XLR mics you've found to work best with the Fostex FR2-LE...I've got a chance to maybe pick one up! Love that old school, no nonsense reliable stuff!
Best mics to use with FOSTEX FR2LE-SM
Schoeps CMIT 5U
Sennheiser 614
Sanken COS11D XLR **
Countryman B6
DPA 4017
DPA 4080
Sennheiser ME102-XLR
NeewerStudio NW1500
Audio technica AT899
Do not use Sennheiser AVX wireless
@@MarkusPix Not even helf an hour until you responded....unbelievable. Dankeschön! The Schoeps would of course be a dream, but someone only dabbling with all that stuff as a hobby does NOT need something as expensive as that one. Or so I try to convince myself - and my wallet agrees. 😂
So, thanks for the quick reply!
Please note that some cameras only record at 16-bit instead of 24-bit, so certain kinds of post processing will be more difficult with that camera audio because you’re working with less information.
Markus, Please, Would you make a video on how you actually process the audio to make it sound so great
Good video Markus, I have seen the video and I liked it a lot.
I'm looking for a voice recorder with lavalier input (like the Zoom F2) that can fit into a motorcycle helmet.
The question is that I can't find anything, do you know of any voice recorder that may have those requirements?
I had something in mind about the size of a HollyLand Lark M1 microphone but there was no voice recorder that has that size and lavalier input.
Thank you very much in advance and keep it up.
PS: Having the recorder in the jacket and passing the lavalier to the helmet seems to me that over time the cable can break and I don't want that to happen.
Helpful video Markus. Thanks. Its so interesting isnt it, the things people use. The things that work for individuals and the things that dont! I own a Zoom H2N and I love it, but i am a musician and I only use it to record quick ideas and its fantastic for that.. you obviously had issues with that particular recorder and you didn't hold back in your very scathing review! Funny.. if I hadn't bought the H2N before watching this, then perhaps I wouldn't have it now! Great content.
Marcus my man, thank you so much on this video! I've tried a lot recorders and couldn't agree more with you! Also, Zoom has A LOT of new series of recorders that are pretty damn cool. Thank you man for this video! :)
Just ordered H1N because removable batteries. Oh dear gonna watch this what you are going to say about these.
Well it seems that H1n will be ok :) Great review. I like the most that you have human oriented style. That makes the life of your videos.
I have only a Tascam DR-40, I LOVE it... The built-in mics are ok and it can power XLR microphones as well. I have it for several years, mine is Black, not gray as yours. Just a little advice: It has a firmware update that fixes some bugs and also makes the recording quality a bit better... It also makes the battery last a bit longer.
For my own use: 14:22 Tentacle Sync Track E post processing versus 15:48 Tascam DR-10L with post processing.
Great stuff Markus! Thank you for your time and effort showing this.
I second (or triple?) "xjet's" question below? post-processing? - I love all of your experience with so much equipment! But, when you say "this is what it sounds like with post-processing"? Is your post-processing different each time? Or is there some basic "post-processing" rules you apply each time to get a decent sound?
Different systems need different settings. These are just 1 possible sample or endless variations, different people have different tastes
Wow! What a comprehensive compendium! Thanks for all that work! Great! 😮😃👍
Thanks for the interesting video. Which recorder would you recommend that is as small and “cheaper” as possible for very good recordings in churches (strings, singing, organ)?
Eager to learn your processing process. Also thought in Lumix xlr 1 adapter. Going to review?
truly epic Markus!! this is great content.
Thanks Marcus... Please make one video on post recording work flow. Software and plugins used. Thanks in advance.
That Nagra 7 is sweet! Wish I could hear it against a Sound Devices Mix Pre ii 🙏🏻. Great content per usual!!
I personally chose the zoom h1n because of its multi use. I can use the built in mic to record ambience and other sfx. I can also use it as a USB mic/interface. And I can stand a few feet away and it sounds like I'm directly infront of it.
Also, one thing to know. The playback volume buttons RATTLE. I was able to solve this by putting some tape over the buttons to hold them in place. So if you do use the built-in mic, you will notice the rattle unless you secure it with some tape. I just used a small piece of frog tape and it works fine.
I primarily use a usb battery bank to power it, as the rechargable AAA batteries I use don't last that long.
Hi Markus, you say the Sony A7C is good for preamp/audio recorder, what do you think of the Sony microphone range for on and off camera. I've built my studio audio set up (Sennheiser MKE 60 boom mic with audio interface) based on some your recommendations and it sounds good. I'm about to start collecting footage and audio from outdoor settings with a Sony A7C and ECM-M1 shotgun mic for close talking head shots, I'll use a Zoom H1n and lav mic to record another audio track. But I'm interested in what you think about the A7C with the ECM-M1?
Thanks for your review. Very interesting. What do recomend post processing softwear for a beginner? You have a cool namn by the way!
Best regards Markus Krans, Sweden