The amount of information you provide while simultaneously being entertaining and likable is unrivaled in the fgc community. This is how you create a loyal fan base right here. Props
I don't really hate the characters of this game anymore. Rather the frustration comes from my lack of understanding for said character I'm having trouble with and how my opponent pilots them. It's why I focus most of my time labbing against the cast so I can at least be better prepared for when they do show up. Knowing is half the battle after all.
@@Bunnykiller109 an issue shared by every Yoshimitsu and King player out there. The characters are good, but since the goof is right there, you'll get lost in the sauce.
I picked him to troll my friend XD Hes far better and kicks my ass 9/10 games and my gawd king is fun and someone doesnt press 1 or 2 to break throw its their problem XD
these videos are gold for someone like me who is relativly new to tekken. i can watch the top exciting matches while getting very well constructed explinations and breakdowns while still being hype. Great stuff!
Thanks for this video PhiDX. As a King who just reached Fujin (higher than I ever expected when I started to play tekken) I appreciate this insight! Love your videos man
As an orange rank King with WR below 40% I have been quite frustrated with my gameplay recently. I get rundown a lot and have difficulty knowing what and when to punish. But Jon's gameplay is so clean and pleasant to watch, I think I'll not be giving up on my Jaguar Boi just yet xD
Lab is your friend. Can’t say much for myself cause I’m bad at it but it still can teach you some things about the moves characteristics which could help you. I used to be stuck in Orange for some time before getting to red so I get the feeling but yes, armor moves help in those ranks but also don’t go for style points too much 😂
As someone who was in your place a few months ago, it's all about character comfort and move selection. Look at how little moves The Jon uses yet how effective they are, keep it simple, learn how to use those moves properly and how to get your throws out, basic setups, and keep grinding. After that learn some basic defense and how to punish, and you're golden. Then, it's just a matter of time and experience. Keep at it!
@@LightningKingYT I only have about one hour per day to play Tekken so I prefer to just dive into ranked matches, but you are right, I have to spend more time in the Practice mode.
Great video as usual, and always pedagogical which is awesome. That said i think you kinda missed the mark on this one with your pet peeve about king. Your issue with him stemmed from "loosing two mixups ended up loosing you the tournament" but in the games you showed that was almost never the case. It's possible yes, that's not what i'm saying, what i'm saying is if you look att the top level games they rarely get caught out by loosing two interactions. Point being hyperfocusing on big dmg has a cieling in the form of deminishing returns. I think your theory might stem from personal bias, if anything it was more applicable to Bryan in this case, where he would win two interactions ending the round. Jon won mainly through consistant poking and fishing for counterhits, not from blowing the opponant up twice per round. Kings one break throws often land att 50-60 dmg, meaning you need three to win a round. I'm not saying this for any other reason that to highlight how even really analytical and good players can let biases skew their opinion on a character. That said i get the frustration since King punishes you hard for any mistakes.
I know everyone is worried about your well-being, which is a valid concern, but keeping up the 2 vids per day pace so far is genuinely impressive. Not gonna lie I truly thought we weren't going to see the EWC series continued. It's cool that you're challenging yourself and I can't wait to see the top 8 recaps if you can get to them but definitely tap out if you need to
Your commentary is top tier. I need to stop smoking weed for at least a week if I ever hope to commentate while keeping up with matches even half as tightly as you demonstrate. 🤘🖤 much love, Phi.
Thats what i was saying. Phi is one of the best tekken content creators, but when he speaks on king theres a good deal of misinformation OR misleading info. Just keep in mind he’s creating many if these with new or lower ranked players in mind.
I appreciate this, i just got king to kishin and i feel like ive been using much of his different strings and possibly the best king player not even using them and making king so much more simple😂 but the technicality behind running giant swing his movement is insane
people don't understand that the Jon came from a long way back in T5 and made his name in T7 by playing marduk . sorry to all king mains but he's not your average player. he's a monster
Only when King's grabs can be stepped from -9 and not just -5 will people go "you know what, I think King kinda has a weakness and he's not as much of a perfect character, but he's still insane!" King boys, the day of reckoning will come to all the haters, remain strong
Yo phi, ive been loving all the content. Just remember, put ypurself first! Dont feel obligated to try to pump out ao much content for us in such little time. I will watch regardless even if you take time between uploads. Youve helped me improve my game by a fuck load and im greatful.
As a King main, I embrace the salt. Let people complain, let people whine, I'll never downplay my OP boy because I'll play him whether he's top tier or not. The Jon is such a joy to watch, the embodiment of the best of the best.
@@saadlakho5888 I'm a Bryan main and find that characters like King and Hwo get way too much hate. King could do with some toning down but there are far more egregious characters than both of them.
@@MonAheadBigMan9337 exactly. And hwo had a lot of weaknesses if people actually did some research. I like Bryan a lot too, he's not cheap, and requires skill to play.
This is how I play ... with no nerves ... against 20/34 of the cast I feel comfortable vs ... on a week where I've got decent sleep and practiced daily ... 😅
Those people who think that df2 pokes can win you a round. Let me warn you. You can be hoop-kicked during that. You don't choose King, King chooses you.
Argument now should be how different the ProPlay vs Casual scene is now. I've always seen King as a viable tourney character but apparently people don't say it so. Look at knee, my friends agree that Bryan is weaker compared to the roster due to how the T8 Mechanics made his gimmick available to everyone.
You can really only do running gs after buffering in ff+ gs input. The jon did it off of 1,2 jabs which is insane. The other way to do it is gs input then ff 1+2. This is a legacy tech that will randomize your throws.(honesty not sure if it exist still). When the game first came out running gs was easy but when they gave him a wavedash it messed up how the inputs come out. I wish i could find the video that taught me but thats how I do it post patch.
If it’s helpful, some other King players to check out or follow would be Lil Majin, Jesandy, BrawlPro, Sol Naciente, and Poltan. I’m sure there’s plenty of others as well, plus non-King mains that can provide good info on King (like MainManSwe).
It was nerfed. It used to do ludicrous dmg, now it’s just a high dmg heatsmash. Other characters have even better heatsmashes tbh. Similar damage and better utility like insane wall splat distance. Sure it floor breaks but all stages have walls and most stages dont have breakable floors. It’s still a very good heatsmash but not the strongest anymore
Before I watched this, and as a king main since I t5dr, make uf3+4 -14 on blk. It's too safe for what it does. And get rid of running gs, that is a must.
my brother, king's combo dmg is nothing, trying to setup combos; df 2-1's etc. its really easy to anticipate for the opponent, everybody breaks throws. King's only bizarre but needed movement is the armor, they need to tweak that a bit. It's really hard to be a high ranked king; without being a smasher-spamming giant swings etc, only as a counter attack fighter
@@666slateran666 You do understand that you'd have to also prepare for the wedding right? And that it costs money? What do you mean it doesn't explain it? The dude has a regular job and was preparing to get married... so of course he'd be short on time.
King is so bizarrely, disgustingly downplayed by the FGC. I think it comes from that annoying elitist mentality of "wow can't believe you would ever lose to a GIMMICK like throw chains what a scrub" making people forget about damn near everything else about the character. I hate that discourse by the way. I don't think a lot of people engaging in it realise how insecure it makes them look to constantly have to insist that nothing is ever hard to read or play against, to immediately assert that you should just not get hit, dummy. It's so incredibly lame.
@@voxrex3932 he has been generally downplayed as a serious threat for years. I mean shit, LilMajin got his big win and still had to release a video trying to get people on board with how oppressive and powerful King can be. And it still didn't really make people wake up to it. Haven't really seen too much of a perception shift since. A lot of the time he gets painted as a one dimensional character that you can shut down with a clear win condition, when in reality to me he has so so many tools to make playing against him highly awkward. One thing I hardly see ever being discussed is how many of his moves are solidly evasive counterhits that flowchart well and create a lot of opportunity to condition opponents or trap them. Also I feel like it's far more out of touch to say nobody thinks chain grabs are a gimmick. It's a shining example of something wannabe elitists will downplay and say "just learn the breaks". The knowledge checks imposed on the opponent get downplayed pretty heavily.
Jon's still a hella good player it just feels worse to fight against king, he's oppressive, and not much you can do against king's throws and grabs if the king player knows his stuff, compared to the counterplay possible for other characters
even if king gets nerf to oblivion you still gonna lose to him with that mediocre mentality, running throws don't realign 12:16 , super slow homing moves , the jon the only person making king work in high level have to get a perfect read of knee timing bc you can beat all king option with ssr duck like ulsan did in the next match , telling king players to lab and you don't want to practice against rko being reactable, shadow20s back have to be hurting carrying the USA
PLS PLAY KING!! Kindly but strongly disagree what u said at start of the vid. King realistically cant ( in a real match) win with 2 interactions. Sadly King has disgusting amount of counter plays .... Just as in this replay, king players has to do many pokes, throw mixs, many mind games... not as easy or braindead as u think.
I do think that king is harder to play than people realize but he can absolutely win off of 2 interactions. Maybe not at a high level but 90% of people aren't playing at a high level.
I often have to keep in mind that you specifically mention you make content for new players, because so much of what you said, had me thinking you were just a king hater or something “ the fact that you can lose to two specific interactions in a round” Thats many characters tho? Paul, jin, kazuya, BRYAN, LAW, nina. Chain throws hardly land. I think meo just had some examples but also was getting hit by alot anyways Yes, you can throw out muscle armor that doesn’t commit you to an attack but saying it is not punishable is wrong no? You can grab hell sweep or snake edge right? “Nobody ur playing is is going to be ducking it on reaction” (In regards to kings heat stance rko) Bro that gets reaction ducked OFTEN since like raijin. “Dont sit in the comments and hate” As he called all of the jons gameplay simple while smirking You make great content phi, but the king hate is ON DISPLAY.
@@PhiDX I appreciate you doing god's work and telling small King players that he's actually a ch/timing-based character with tools that potentially shouldn't exist as they are in the reality of T8 (df2), but the poison of hating cats will plague your soul 'til there's nothing left. Beware!
Why would i be randomly throwing out 18+ frame lows against King even if i read they love using armor....he has the jumping knee. Also, at tournament level, you don't run as much of a grab offense in general because you kinda have to assume everyone you're playing against is also a 3000+ hour lab demon who normally techs those. I think theres worse problems for sure, but let's not pretend King hasn't been goated this whole time with a great kit.
Where are the people that think bryan is even on kings level..😂😂😂 knee is playing bryan the best u can play bryan and looks like nothing to a king qnd the jon is not THAT much better than knee... lets be real...
@Benjamin-uw5xj actually this level the characters matters more because they all fundamentally sound lower ranks dont lose because of the characters they lose because they don't know how to play the game....bryans win con becomes 100x harder vs pros because your not gonna be counter hitting pros like u do casual players at a high level all bryan has movement and pokes those big counter hitting moves is just to control the neutral and make them respect your + frames..
@@Benjamin-uw5xj king is just better than bryan at 80% of things bryan has better wall, pressure and damaging comboes and a better low in hatchet but ff * 2 is nothing to scuff at with king, king is better than him with armor moves, just as good in the neutral, hit confirmable launcher, better throw game "duh" better heat smash, better than bryan in forcing ducks.... if bryan didn't have that absurd dmg he would be total shit..
The amount of information you provide while simultaneously being entertaining and likable is unrivaled in the fgc community. This is how you create a loyal fan base right here. Props
@@ROCKNWALK that used to be gootecks until he went off the deepend
Chrystalline truth!
I don't really hate the characters of this game anymore. Rather the frustration comes from my lack of understanding for said character I'm having trouble with and how my opponent pilots them. It's why I focus most of my time labbing against the cast so I can at least be better prepared for when they do show up. Knowing is half the battle after all.
Knowing is like 80% of Tekken 8 lol
@jacoblarson8113 also correct
Raw instincts go rahh!
04:46
"RUH!.... Flex."
A funny moment indeed
icant
UncleBP would like to know your location
That's Unc to you
Like, University of Colorado
Unc brawlsack
@@hamzahax brawlpro the 🐐
@@666slateran666 brawl, the 💰
Shoutouts to my King family out there, was waiting for this vid for a looong time. Love watching The Jon play, he's soooooo good
Picking King as a big wrestling fan. Whether I win or lose, I’m just here to put you over brother.
Never played any fighting game before. Picked King as firs char because of his silly yet gigachad aura
Same here! That and the sense of power behind his moves and punches. He just is a straight up bad ass and goofy at the same time. I love it.
My problem is that I’m consumed by the silliness, I’ll just spam grab my friends even when I miss because that rolling grab is too funny
@@Bunnykiller109 an issue shared by every Yoshimitsu and King player out there. The characters are good, but since the goof is right there, you'll get lost in the sauce.
I picked him to troll my friend XD
Hes far better and kicks my ass 9/10 games and my gawd king is fun and someone doesnt press 1 or 2 to break throw its their problem XD
these videos are gold for someone like me who is relativly new to tekken. i can watch the top exciting matches while getting very well constructed explinations and breakdowns while still being hype.
Great stuff!
Thanks for this video PhiDX. As a King who just reached Fujin (higher than I ever expected when I started to play tekken) I appreciate this insight!
Love your videos man
These ewc recaps have been a long time coming. Thank you for all the hard work
As an orange rank King with WR below 40% I have been quite frustrated with my gameplay recently. I get rundown a lot and have difficulty knowing what and when to punish. But Jon's gameplay is so clean and pleasant to watch, I think I'll not be giving up on my Jaguar Boi just yet xD
Armor moves go crazy in orange! B+3 is goated
Lab is your friend. Can’t say much for myself cause I’m bad at it but it still can teach you some things about the moves characteristics which could help you. I used to be stuck in Orange for some time before getting to red so I get the feeling but yes, armor moves help in those ranks but also don’t go for style points too much 😂
As someone who was in your place a few months ago, it's all about character comfort and move selection. Look at how little moves The Jon uses yet how effective they are, keep it simple, learn how to use those moves properly and how to get your throws out, basic setups, and keep grinding. After that learn some basic defense and how to punish, and you're golden. Then, it's just a matter of time and experience. Keep at it!
@@PhiDX Thank you for the hint!
@@LightningKingYT I only have about one hour per day to play Tekken so I prefer to just dive into ranked matches, but you are right, I have to spend more time in the Practice mode.
Great video as usual, and always pedagogical which is awesome. That said i think you kinda missed the mark on this one with your pet peeve about king. Your issue with him stemmed from "loosing two mixups ended up loosing you the tournament" but in the games you showed that was almost never the case. It's possible yes, that's not what i'm saying, what i'm saying is if you look att the top level games they rarely get caught out by loosing two interactions. Point being hyperfocusing on big dmg has a cieling in the form of deminishing returns.
I think your theory might stem from personal bias, if anything it was more applicable to Bryan in this case, where he would win two interactions ending the round. Jon won mainly through consistant poking and fishing for counterhits, not from blowing the opponant up twice per round. Kings one break throws often land att 50-60 dmg, meaning you need three to win a round. I'm not saying this for any other reason that to highlight how even really analytical and good players can let biases skew their opinion on a character. That said i get the frustration since King punishes you hard for any mistakes.
I appreciate your respectful criticism
Part of it is the Korean play style, which might be a good follow up video 🙏🏼
@@PhiDX I'd love to hear what you have to say about that topic, keep up the good work! 🔥
1,2 into running giant swing is the reason God sent me to this video.
I know everyone is worried about your well-being, which is a valid concern, but keeping up the 2 vids per day pace so far is genuinely impressive. Not gonna lie I truly thought we weren't going to see the EWC series continued.
It's cool that you're challenging yourself and I can't wait to see the top 8 recaps if you can get to them but definitely tap out if you need to
The first combo was nasty I usually dash up after tornado and f2,1 into 1+4,3 but the Jon’s combo gotta be more optimal
As a King player, love you for this, thanks tekken sensei!
Phi, you are a great content creator. Keep the pace with what ever you do.
Love the vids, trying to get better myself.
Your commentary is top tier. I need to stop smoking weed for at least a week if I ever hope to commentate while keeping up with matches even half as tightly as you demonstrate. 🤘🖤 much love, Phi.
0:20 We can say that about a lot of characters.
Bryan, Drag, Paul and Yoshi come to mind
Thats what i was saying. Phi is one of the best tekken content creators, but when he speaks on king theres a good deal of misinformation OR misleading info.
Just keep in mind he’s creating many if these with new or lower ranked players in mind.
@Benjamin-uw5xj please list all the misinformation so I can correct it.
@ i did in my original comment 😄
I appreciate this, i just got king to kishin and i feel like ive been using much of his different strings and possibly the best king player not even using them and making king so much more simple😂 but the technicality behind running giant swing his movement is insane
people don't understand that the Jon came from a long way back in T5 and made his name in T7 by playing marduk . sorry to all king mains but he's not your average player. he's a monster
Day 2 of hoping you take care of yourself
Nah, fr king mains make me wish Thanos was real
Only when King's grabs can be stepped from -9 and not just -5 will people go "you know what, I think King kinda has a weakness and he's not as much of a perfect character, but he's still insane!"
King boys, the day of reckoning will come to all the haters, remain strong
Yo phi, ive been loving all the content. Just remember, put ypurself first! Dont feel obligated to try to pump out ao much content for us in such little time. I will watch regardless even if you take time between uploads. Youve helped me improve my game by a fuck load and im greatful.
As a King main, I embrace the salt. Let people complain, let people whine, I'll never downplay my OP boy because I'll play him whether he's top tier or not.
The Jon is such a joy to watch, the embodiment of the best of the best.
As a Hwoarang main, I agree
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no respect for you
@@saadlakho5888 I'm a Bryan main and find that characters like King and Hwo get way too much hate. King could do with some toning down but there are far more egregious characters than both of them.
@@MonAheadBigMan9337 exactly. And hwo had a lot of weaknesses if people actually did some research. I like Bryan a lot too, he's not cheap, and requires skill to play.
Bro is on the grind. Appreciate your hard-work
This is how I play ... with no nerves ... against 20/34 of the cast I feel comfortable vs ... on a week where I've got decent sleep and practiced daily ... 😅
Those people who think that df2 pokes can win you a round. Let me warn you. You can be hoop-kicked during that. You don't choose King, King chooses you.
> hates king
Phidx might be my favourite youtuber
The issue is, everyone hates in king. Regardless of it being a tourney or not
Argument now should be how different the ProPlay vs Casual scene is now. I've always seen King as a viable tourney character but apparently people don't say it so. Look at knee, my friends agree that Bryan is weaker compared to the roster due to how the T8 Mechanics made his gimmick available to everyone.
excellent content as usual brother
Love your commentary!!!!
You can really only do running gs after buffering in ff+ gs input. The jon did it off of 1,2 jabs which is insane. The other way to do it is gs input then ff 1+2. This is a legacy tech that will randomize your throws.(honesty not sure if it exist still). When the game first came out running gs was easy but when they gave him a wavedash it messed up how the inputs come out. I wish i could find the video that taught me but thats how I do it post patch.
Or this also ruclips.net/video/4kUBRXbKF2s/видео.htmlsi=GGiJZoGZ9iZu35O1
You are a very humble and nice guy phiDx😊 Peace ✌🏻
This is my first Tekken and I only play King. Always looking for content
If it’s helpful, some other King players to check out or follow would be Lil Majin, Jesandy, BrawlPro, Sol Naciente, and Poltan. I’m sure there’s plenty of others as well, plus non-King mains that can provide good info on King (like MainManSwe).
@@Red_Ghost85under rated comment 🔥🔥
Kingsman too!!
Somebody please bribe this man Lil Majin into a tournament please!
Enjoying the uploads
Thank you Phi for the great content. 👍
Adaptation is important as phi implies
King is my favourite match up as Devil Jin. it's so fun.
King is King. Mur muar grau rau
Why does the Catcher is also really good at poking and Counter hits 😭😭
the goat the Jon! Cant wait for his mardoook :)
Someone answer sm for me, if King ch jabs you in Heat, is Heat smash guaranteed????
Brawlsackian really needs to watch this
That outfit from Ryan Hart.
Phidx for president
I've been getting blown up by ff,n,2 since the game came out. I'm dying out here!
Win lose or tie, king til I die
I just found out that i watch you too much of phidx im in top 0,2 viewers (idk how RUclips keeps track of that). So am i phidx god ranks?
Who isn't he nerfed? His heat smash is too strong.
It was nerfed. It used to do ludicrous dmg, now it’s just a high dmg heatsmash. Other characters have even better heatsmashes tbh. Similar damage and better utility like insane wall splat distance. Sure it floor breaks but all stages have walls and most stages dont have breakable floors. It’s still a very good heatsmash but not the strongest anymore
my problem with King is that CH df2 is super hard to hit confirm 😕
Lil Majin wants an audience with you 😊
... But I been playing King since Tekken 3 Im too far gone,LOL.
was good video, thank you
Before I watched this, and as a king main since I t5dr, make uf3+4 -14 on blk. It's too safe for what it does. And get rid of running gs, that is a must.
Love the non bias here fr
Uf3+4 being -14 is fine but running gs is essential to his kit, the fuck are you talking about
my brother, king's combo dmg is nothing, trying to setup combos; df 2-1's etc. its really easy to anticipate for the opponent, everybody breaks throws. King's only bizarre but needed movement is the armor, they need to tweak that a bit. It's really hard to be a high ranked king; without being a smasher-spamming giant swings etc, only as a counter attack fighter
The Jon, The best
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PP King next 🐆👑
King is completely broken
good video phi
😎
I mean, imagine giving a grappler, who can murder you with 1 throw, some of the best buttons in the game...🤯
You mean as a content creator haha
King is top 3 IMO. He's got all the tools needed to survive in T8 and more
The Jon is an outlier. No one else is making it far with King in tournaments.
Bro changed the title just to hint at hating the character, how sad
Lilmajin somehwere crying, idk why he doesnt compete anymore
He trying to RDC the wife
He recently got married and only just started playing again awhile ago
@Kekkai_ that doesn't explain his absence from EVO which was months ago
@Adderflail lil Majin trying to make a lil lilmajin? 🤔
@@666slateran666 You do understand that you'd have to also prepare for the wedding right? And that it costs money? What do you mean it doesn't explain it? The dude has a regular job and was preparing to get married... so of course he'd be short on time.
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King is so busted wtf
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yeah just like gigas d 1+2
It's too boring to play against king 🙂 when I see the list length of kings throws I just want to add king players in blacklist.
King is so bizarrely, disgustingly downplayed by the FGC. I think it comes from that annoying elitist mentality of "wow can't believe you would ever lose to a GIMMICK like throw chains what a scrub" making people forget about damn near everything else about the character. I hate that discourse by the way. I don't think a lot of people engaging in it realise how insecure it makes them look to constantly have to insist that nothing is ever hard to read or play against, to immediately assert that you should just not get hit, dummy. It's so incredibly lame.
Are you part of the Antarctica FGC or what? Where the hell is he downplayed? Who says chaingrabs are a gimmick?
@@voxrex3932 he has been generally downplayed as a serious threat for years. I mean shit, LilMajin got his big win and still had to release a video trying to get people on board with how oppressive and powerful King can be. And it still didn't really make people wake up to it. Haven't really seen too much of a perception shift since. A lot of the time he gets painted as a one dimensional character that you can shut down with a clear win condition, when in reality to me he has so so many tools to make playing against him highly awkward. One thing I hardly see ever being discussed is how many of his moves are solidly evasive counterhits that flowchart well and create a lot of opportunity to condition opponents or trap them.
Also I feel like it's far more out of touch to say nobody thinks chain grabs are a gimmick. It's a shining example of something wannabe elitists will downplay and say "just learn the breaks". The knowledge checks imposed on the opponent get downplayed pretty heavily.
Jon's still a hella good player
it just feels worse to fight against king, he's oppressive, and not much you can do against king's throws and grabs if the king player knows his stuff, compared to the counterplay possible for other characters
The counterplay is relatively straightforward, honestly. Step right. That's it.
@@thefabledenglishman6000yup, ssr will destroy most Kings.
@@yeetmasterpianogames2611 just duck the grabs bro. My homie flash ducks me all day and it's infuriating
@@tugsuumovies1999Clearly you should let knee know that.
I saw king in the title
So i clicked
even if king gets nerf to oblivion you still gonna lose to him with that mediocre mentality, running throws don't realign 12:16 , super slow homing moves , the jon the only person making king work in high level have to get a perfect read of knee timing bc you can beat all king option with ssr duck like ulsan did in the next match , telling king players to lab and you don't want to practice against rko being reactable, shadow20s back have to be hurting carrying the USA
f+4
@@PhiDX i18-20 frames start-up, -9 on block, xiaoyu can still evade it , if interrupted you get floated... I can keep going
This match proves that King is in need of major nerfs.
PLS PLAY KING!! Kindly but strongly disagree what u said at start of the vid. King realistically cant ( in a real match) win with 2 interactions. Sadly King has disgusting amount of counter plays .... Just as in this replay, king players has to do many pokes, throw mixs, many mind games... not as easy or braindead as u think.
Phi is a cool guy but he's insanely biased against King, such is life
I do think that king is harder to play than people realize but he can absolutely win off of 2 interactions. Maybe not at a high level but 90% of people aren't playing at a high level.
I often have to keep in mind that you specifically mention you make content for new players, because so much of what you said, had me thinking you were just a king hater or something
“ the fact that you can lose to two specific interactions in a round”
Thats many characters tho?
Paul, jin, kazuya, BRYAN, LAW, nina.
Chain throws hardly land. I think meo just had some examples but also was getting hit by alot anyways
Yes, you can throw out muscle armor that doesn’t commit you to an attack but saying it is not punishable is wrong no? You can grab hell sweep or snake edge right?
“Nobody ur playing is is going to be ducking it on reaction”
(In regards to kings heat stance rko)
Bro that gets reaction ducked OFTEN since like raijin.
“Dont sit in the comments and hate”
As he called all of the jons gameplay simple while smirking
You make great content phi, but the king hate is ON DISPLAY.
"Don't sit in the comments and hate --> go in the lab"
I'm hating but I'm teaching 😁
@@PhiDX I appreciate you doing god's work and telling small King players that he's actually a ch/timing-based character with tools that potentially shouldn't exist as they are in the reality of T8 (df2), but the poison of hating cats will plague your soul 'til there's nothing left. Beware!
Why would i be randomly throwing out 18+ frame lows against King even if i read they love using armor....he has the jumping knee. Also, at tournament level, you don't run as much of a grab offense in general because you kinda have to assume everyone you're playing against is also a 3000+ hour lab demon who normally techs those. I think theres worse problems for sure, but let's not pretend King hasn't been goated this whole time with a great kit.
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Where are the people that think bryan is even on kings level..😂😂😂 knee is playing bryan the best u can play bryan and looks like nothing to a king qnd the jon is not THAT much better than knee... lets be real...
Bro knees bryan beat jon in korea. At this level its about the players not the characters.
@Benjamin-uw5xj actually this level the characters matters more because they all fundamentally sound lower ranks dont lose because of the characters they lose because they don't know how to play the game....bryans win con becomes 100x harder vs pros because your not gonna be counter hitting pros like u do casual players at a high level all bryan has movement and pokes those big counter hitting moves is just to control the neutral and make them respect your + frames..
@@Benjamin-uw5xj king is just better than bryan at 80% of things bryan has better wall, pressure and damaging comboes and a better low in hatchet but ff * 2 is nothing to scuff at with king, king is better than him with armor moves, just as good in the neutral, hit confirmable launcher, better throw game "duh" better heat smash, better than bryan in forcing ducks.... if bryan didn't have that absurd dmg he would be total shit..
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damn it u got here before me
@alialbaity458 lol
I appreciate the explanation, but I just cannot respect King players. This champ is so fucking busted.