It looks like Mihoyo knows how Hydro is valuable to the meta so they tease us by making either 4-stars units that were clearly Hydro to be other elements (like Freminet) or making Hydro units that were clearly 4-stars to be 5-stars (like Sigewinne). The Fontaine arc showed how greedy Hoyoverse is by comparing the 5-stars to 4-stars ratio. The worst part is that Freminet's current kit would still work if he was Hydro, it would only fare worse against freezable enemies constantly shielded by Hydro I would make minor changes to Freminet's kit, only making his skill also scale with HP alongside ATK and changing the conditions for his C4 and C6 to trigger by just attacking enemies affected by Hydro or Cryo, nullifying his weakness described above. I would also change his C2 to lower enemy Physical resistance instead of restoring energy to him.
@@real_mitty The Cryo themes that Freminet has are the penguin and maybe his Fatui ties and personality. Otherwise he simply screams Hydro, from his design to his kit, even the penguin is more of a Hydro theme than a Cryo one since all penguins are semiaquatic, but not all penguins live in Antarctica or cold enviroments. Eula also screams Hydro too, even more than Freminet, but she can pass because when she launched her kit was unique (and still is being the only 5-star dedicated Physical DPS), unlike Freminet, that could have been the first Hydro claymore of the game
@@josefonsecadecarvalhoolive1992I would more say backstory, most people with cryo visions suffered through some kind of lack of love or just a tough life that would leave them sounding cold. Freminet having his father leaving him and his mother to fend for themselves, and then his mother leaving him at the hands of the House of the Hearth to protect him.
@@Stranger_1046 naahhh, her style is very "robin-hood-esque" and it doesn't give me the vibe of a "mage". Citlali should 1000% be a catalyst or I'm throwing hands
If I go by ur logic, I agree totally. However, if i look from a different perspective, that is of her kit and play style, she gives me catalyst vibes. Perhaps it's just my scara-main brain messing with me but ye@@UnohanaMash
I mean we've seen characters, especially archons (Zhongli, Venti and the Raiden Shogun) wield multiple weapons and since Mavuika took Kinich's weapon in that one cutscene, there is a slight possibility, that she doesn't end up being a claymore user.
The thing is all archons have been the first of each weapon type Venti the first Anemo bow user Zhong li first Geo Pole arm user Raiden first elector pole arm Nahida first Dendro catalyst They missed a chance with Furina being the first Hydro Claymore And The Tsarista being the first Cryo claymore because they could’ve kept that pattern if its wasn’t intentional!
I think Tsaritsa would be a bow user. The beginning and the end of the archons and also, since she is an Archon of Love, like Cupid has a bow and arrows.
Furina doesn’t seem to have the strength to wield a claymore so it can be justified. But… hydro claymore Focalors (imagine they rebooted her). I will pull for Focalors if she respawned and becomes playable
The explanation for hydro not having any claymore users is because their archon died by a claymore! Just like how anemo doesn't have any shielders, it is because they Supposably "couldn't shield their lost friend, from the danger" Hope this helps! (Edit:fixed my grammar😭)
Only will make sense if you clarify whom all do u mean by 'their' in 'their archon' . Do you mean by hydro archon as the archon of hydro vision bearers or the people of nation of fontaine?
Anemo couldn't perform crystallize reaction that's why no anemo shielders, But I would like to see an anemo shield character literally using anemo as a force field to block aatacks that would be soo cool
She used a claymore fighting Capitano and a got a leak of her weapon menu although her background is gray and not holding a weapon her pose is like she's holding a claymore so yeah
yep, im act 1 or 2 of the natlan archon quest, she used kinnich's claymore to fight capitano. so, it's easy to guess what her prefered weapon of choice is.
while we saw Mavuika used Claymore in cinematic I hope she knows how to use more than one weapon she just happens to use Kinich claymore just to test Capitano power level I wouldn't mind if she's like Raiden she wield a sword mainly but her ult let her switch to claymore or maybe the other way around
Some of these combos make sense as to why theyre not normally used. Anemo users are usually light on their feet and such so a lighter weapon makes more sense. A geo catalyst and bow is just you theowing rocks lol which is kinda lame (no hate on ningguang). And pyro users are cooler when theyre throwing flames around rather than sword fighting. I like how some elements have there weapon types cause it makes sense to certain attributes of different elements (no two elements are the same). Ofc if you all want different combos for variety thats fine too.
Dude you know Pokemon, I think everyone with a t.v in their house knows what it is , there are 18 different types and 154 possible combinations but even after 30 years of their franchise there are still some type combinations that are not on any Pokemon , so I think it is fine for the type combinations in other games as well not being able to get a certain combination is not a big deal unless lore wise it's different and play wise it is different
I thought for sure Mualani was going to be the first hydro claymore since she uses her sharky as a huge bat one for attack. Was so disappointed to hear she was a catalyst
I think they try to keep some for the end of the game so that that they have still character to put out that are something new in the later games instead of throwing now everything out, like thats my theory to it
As much as I love Chasca with a bow and it does fit her character really well, I wish she was a Claymore user because I think that would also fit her really well
i mean, throwing rocks is one of the easiest ways to hurt someone lol, and for me the elements doesnt need necessarily to make sense with weapons bc they are like energy
I think it may also depend on the element itself. I mean, hydro represents water, and anemo represents air, they are both really free flowing elements, both are really light and "free", so I think it makes sense that they don't use claymores much, they aren't meant to be really heavy. I think Aristotle or Socrates talked about the 4 elements being Earth, Water, Air and Fire, which are in order of weight by gravity for him. Now, for water this doesn't apply but for air it does, air is a light element and it makes sense that their people, who yearn freedom of soul, want to also be free physically, and as you can see in claymores' animation they are really heavy, time consuming in attacking and are not easy to use, so you can't exactly use them however you want. Same goes for hydro but it can make a bit more sense since water gets heavier the more pressure it has, but as for the element itself it is also a free flowing element, so there should also be more polearms for both hydro and anemo. For pyro yeah, there probably should be more swords because after all the fire element is supposed to be kind of fast, really energetic, so other than polearms it would make sense for there to be more swords as well. While Geo makes a bit more sense, it's a bit weird to think of geo bows, it's like shooting rocks, same as catalysts, they also just like throw rocks, even tho it would make a bit more sense elementally talking rather than bows. Now, I may have missed something but I want to talk about some characters that should have probably have a different element, for example, Kaveh swinging his claymore without touching it, at this point they could have made him anemo, not that I think he shouldn't have been dendro, I very much like him this way, but if they did put an anemo claymore user then it would make sense for them to have an animation similar to Kaveh, since it gives them more "freedom" to move around. Or also Freminet, I don't mind him being Cryo, he's a great character, but for example, he works with water AND is a sub, which means he works with strong pressure waters, why not make him a water claymore user? It would have made sense and also added a claymore to hydro for the happiness of everyone who likes those two things. Again, I'm not saying they should have been like this or that, I'm just saying what would have made sense aesthetically and personality wise, while also making more people happy about the element-weapon combos
I belive that the lack of a hydro + claymore character is related to the archon lore of Fontaine (a claymore having been what ended the reign of their archon)
People are so smart to judge a character before even seeing leaks or seeing what kinda kit they have or even their proper release. Yup genshin players.
People forget that just because a character uses a weapon in a cutscene doesn't equal their playable weapon. Sethos uses a polearm in his 1st cutscene ( idk if there's anymore )
i mean, i honestly dont think it needs to make sense, the versatily of the element could range a lot of things, is like how chiori use fabric to attack even being geo
In the cutscene fight between mauvika and capitano it can be seen that mavuika borrows a CLAYMORE from kinich to fight capitano so it's vonfirmed thats she is PYRO CLAYMORE CHARACTER
“Hopefully she will be a pyro sword user”
I’m gonna hold your hand and tell you this-
Nah they have Bennett they don't need anymore Pyro swords
Facts@@Orangecat_haver13
@@Orangecat_haver13Benny true pyro archon
Remember Sethos? He was shown in cutscenes to be polearm user. Turns out he uses bow.
That could totally happen here
@@swayamsarangi2005 very very true
Mavuika will me claymore user
Which is kinda sad since we have so many pyro claymore already
@lavaniii3263 true but she will also be the first archon who uses a claymore ❤
@@lavaniii3263we dont have many pyro claymore ???
@@Inumaki116 yup and with that we have all weapon types among archons
I hate claymore worse type in the game
Freminet would've fit so nicely into being a hydro claymore, such a missed opportunity 😭
It looks like Mihoyo knows how Hydro is valuable to the meta so they tease us by making either 4-stars units that were clearly Hydro to be other elements (like Freminet) or making Hydro units that were clearly 4-stars to be 5-stars (like Sigewinne). The Fontaine arc showed how greedy Hoyoverse is by comparing the 5-stars to 4-stars ratio.
The worst part is that Freminet's current kit would still work if he was Hydro, it would only fare worse against freezable enemies constantly shielded by Hydro
I would make minor changes to Freminet's kit, only making his skill also scale with HP alongside ATK and changing the conditions for his C4 and C6 to trigger by just attacking enemies affected by Hydro or Cryo, nullifying his weakness described above. I would also change his C2 to lower enemy Physical resistance instead of restoring energy to him.
Yeah. I was also hoping Furina would be the first hydro claymore.
not really for me... Being cryo fits him perfectly for his design, lore etc.
@@real_mitty The Cryo themes that Freminet has are the penguin and maybe his Fatui ties and personality. Otherwise he simply screams Hydro, from his design to his kit, even the penguin is more of a Hydro theme than a Cryo one since all penguins are semiaquatic, but not all penguins live in Antarctica or cold enviroments. Eula also screams Hydro too, even more than Freminet, but she can pass because when she launched her kit was unique (and still is being the only 5-star dedicated Physical DPS), unlike Freminet, that could have been the first Hydro claymore of the game
@@josefonsecadecarvalhoolive1992I would more say backstory, most people with cryo visions suffered through some kind of lack of love or just a tough life that would leave them sounding cold. Freminet having his father leaving him and his mother to fend for themselves, and then his mother leaving him at the hands of the House of the Hearth to protect him.
I think Bow fits Chasca's character, but Ororon should've definitely been a sword user
this is definitely what i thought for Ororon 😐
Chasca could be easily catalyst
@@Stranger_1046 naahhh, her style is very "robin-hood-esque" and it doesn't give me the vibe of a "mage". Citlali should 1000% be a catalyst or I'm throwing hands
@@UnohanaMash well she's a bow user but all she do is fly around and attack
If I go by ur logic, I agree totally. However, if i look from a different perspective, that is of her kit and play style, she gives me catalyst vibes.
Perhaps it's just my scara-main brain messing with me but ye@@UnohanaMash
bruh we literally saw mavuika using claymore 😶
This here, is called hopium.
@@Epikrill it's called common fucking sense lmao
@@Epikrillit's called paying attention to cutscenes
To be fair that was kinich's weapon sooo
I mean we've seen characters, especially archons (Zhongli, Venti and the Raiden Shogun) wield multiple weapons and since Mavuika took Kinich's weapon in that one cutscene, there is a slight possibility, that she doesn't end up being a claymore user.
Some elements have a greater affinity for specific weapon types, for example Pyro for Claymore and Hydro for Catalyst
I'm already guessing that mavuika will be ended up as claymore user
She will be
Yeah because claymores are the strongest weapon and it just makes sense for the god of war
@@spinonoorsYT also, we don't have an archon who uses claymore yet
@@deadshotfx3716 and all the Archons have their own weapon (except Raiden and Zhongli)
The thing is all archons have been the first of each weapon type
Venti the first Anemo bow user
Zhong li first Geo Pole arm user
Raiden first elector pole arm
Nahida first Dendro catalyst
They missed a chance with Furina being the first Hydro Claymore
And The Tsarista being the first Cryo claymore because they could’ve kept that pattern if its wasn’t intentional!
I think Tsaritsa would be a bow user. The beginning and the end of the archons and also, since she is an Archon of Love, like Cupid has a bow and arrows.
No offense but there is no way they’re going to wait FIVE YEARS to release the first cryo claymore 😭
@@iidDoritoMeAchongyun?
@@antonriddoch8 I know. I was saying that Hoyo was never going to wait that long to release the first cryo claymore just to keep the pattern.
Furina doesn’t seem to have the strength to wield a claymore so it can be justified. But… hydro claymore Focalors (imagine they rebooted her). I will pull for Focalors if she respawned and becomes playable
My 2 favourite...
Hydro and Claymore.
Maybe its because a claymore killed the Hydro Archon?
But if it does happen, I want it to be a five star.
Imagnie Hoyo relising Claymore Focalor and Damocles' Sword as her banner weapon
Lol that's evil mate and I love it
💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
@@rotmistrzjanm8776most of the fan base would definitely pull for Focalors so we got a chance for hoyo releasing her for the 💵💵💵
I was here to say the same lol
"Hopefully, she will be a Sword User."
Rick Astley will never give you up, but Mavuika will never let you go.
"hopefully, she will be a pyro sword user"
sounds like someone didnt pay attention to the cutscenes
The explanation for hydro not having any claymore users is because their archon died by a claymore! Just like how anemo doesn't have any shielders, it is because they Supposably "couldn't shield their lost friend, from the danger" Hope this helps!
(Edit:fixed my grammar😭)
OMG THE REASON FOR NO ANEMO SHIELDERS MAKES SENSE NOW-
That's why they're an-emo
Only will make sense if you clarify whom all do u mean by 'their' in 'their archon' .
Do you mean by hydro archon as the archon of hydro vision bearers or the people of nation of fontaine?
Anemo couldn't perform crystallize reaction that's why no anemo shielders,
But I would like to see an anemo shield character literally using anemo as a force field to block aatacks that would be soo cool
@@VidhanShrivastava-iu2xx
And each time their shield blocks physical attack the enemy takes damage cus the strong winds shredded their body
4th Geo Sword? What? She is the 3rd, it is Albedo, Chiori and Xilonen herself!
Somepeople says mavuika will be claymore user
She used a claymore fighting Capitano and a got a leak of her weapon menu although her background is gray and not holding a weapon her pose is like she's holding a claymore so yeah
@@tinasentry911wasn't it Kenichi weapon that she borrowed
@@blue-r6z yes but as I said from the leak she looks like she's holding a claymore
@@blue-r6zYes, but mastering a weapon immediately is probably beyond her skill set
yep, im act 1 or 2 of the natlan archon quest, she used kinnich's claymore to fight capitano. so, it's easy to guess what her prefered weapon of choice is.
"Or just completely missing"
Shows a character with the most abundant combo in the game 💀
If Mauvuika uses a claymore she might just be the overall best and most complete unit ever made 👌🏽
she does 🔥🔥🔥
"Hopefully she will be a sword user"
Mavuika literally using claymore in the forst quest
With fire and sword being usually the most popular and common element/weapon outside of Genshin you’d think there’d be more of that besides Bennett
When you love the Charakter design but hate the weapon... 🥹🤚🏻
Who?
@@KingzMintz Ororon for me
Literally ororon 😭
Realistically, mavuika is gonna be a claymore user. It would just make so much sense.
Mavuika is a claymore character lol. That was made evident and obvious with her fight against Il Capitano when she took Kinich’s weapon
That and also she would be the first claymore archon too
Tsaritsa more fit when use claymore
“Hopefully Mavuika will be a sword user”
She literally uses a Claymore in the fight against Capitano, so…..
Fun fact: there's an NPC with a Pyro vision from mualani's tribe
There’s no way that they made a display of Mavuika taking Kinich’s claymore only to give her a sword 😂
Mauvuika looks like a claymore user ngl. Her personality screams that
"hopefully she will be a pyro sword user"
It may seem crazy what I'm about to say
Dendro vibing with all of them rn 😭
Mavuika is claymore in the first natlan archon quest when she fought capitano she used kinichs claymore.
We need a 5 STAR electro bow user.
“Hopefully she will be a sword user”
Honey, you’ve got a big storm coming
Mavuika quite literally using claymore in the cutscenes and trailer:
This coping girl : HoPe FuLlY sHe wIlL bE a SwOrD uSeR
Bro Sethos used a polearm in his cutscene but ended up being a bow user she's probably hoping something similar will happen again
She most literally took the claymore while running into a fight within seconds. She wouldnt have her exact weapon there so we still got no clue.
@@Strawhat_hokage don't read if you don't want leaks
She was confirmed to be a claymore
while we saw Mavuika used Claymore in cinematic I hope she knows how to use more than one weapon she just happens to use Kinich claymore just to test Capitano power level I wouldn't mind if she's like Raiden she wield a sword mainly but her ult let her switch to claymore or maybe the other way around
her id was already leaked and it sais "pyro_claymors_female"
4 years without a hydro claymore is WILD
Raion:i hope she uses a sword
Mavuika:🧍moto🚴and claymore
I for sure thought furina was gonna be a hydro claymore user, and I can still see her being one today
Furina is claymore 3.8 leak 😢
Furina is a sword user 4.0 leaks LESGOOOOOOOOO 🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
Fuck claymores.
Nah, Mavuika’s a claymore user. Fitting of her to use a giant clobbering blade for war.
for her fight Mavuika grabbed a claymore from Kinich and used it to fight
Some of these combos make sense as to why theyre not normally used. Anemo users are usually light on their feet and such so a lighter weapon makes more sense. A geo catalyst and bow is just you theowing rocks lol which is kinda lame (no hate on ningguang). And pyro users are cooler when theyre throwing flames around rather than sword fighting. I like how some elements have there weapon types cause it makes sense to certain attributes of different elements (no two elements are the same). Ofc if you all want different combos for variety thats fine too.
Mavuika is already claymore user confirmed by her fight with Capitano
nah Mavuika uses a claymore...
erm we have a hydro claymore wym
We’ve seen Mavuika use a claymore but soon we’ll get pyro traveler a sword user
Hydro has a claymore 😢
Probably Mavuika will be claymore user cause she used a claymore in the archon quest and it looked like she knew how to use it plus claymore suits her
incoming pyro traveller: you didnt have to cut me off~
The traveler about to get the pyro element resonance:
Bennett: "No you won't"
Dude you know Pokemon, I think everyone with a t.v in their house knows what it is , there are 18 different types and 154 possible combinations but even after 30 years of their franchise there are still some type combinations that are not on any Pokemon , so I think it is fine for the type combinations in other games as well not being able to get a certain combination is not a big deal unless lore wise it's different and play wise it is different
Benni being the only pyro sword user for almost 5 years now. He is the pyro archon.
yall remember when we all thought Ayato was a hydro claymore because of that one fanart?
The Forest Fairy of Simulanka is just sitting on the bench as her name was not mentioned.
"Why are we getting the same combo's, Ororon is our 4th Bow User"
Pyro-Claimore would like to have a word...
Meanwhile, I decided if I should pull weapons because I dont have enough 4 start weapons for my characters
i think Mavuika has a claymore. but i don't know yet.
and still missing hydro claymore
Hoyo be like: any claymore can be hydro with the power of candace
Listen closely we don’t need another pyro sword user because he got the TRUE pyro archon Bennett
I know Sandrone's probably gonna be the last Harbinger we meet, but I'm betting on my wife being a geo catalyst
her: "no hydro claymore."
focalors: "who said?"
every survey recently, I've asked about the hydro claymore
Well, technically, the traveler will be the first 5 star pyro sword user
“Ororon better not be a bow user.”
*sees this video.*
“NO-“
i remember when we all thought ayato would be a hydro claymore lol
Bennett has been alone since launch and I think about it everyday😭💔
Ngl slapping enemies with hydro using a Claymore sounds fun!
Oh? No hydro claymore? Hoyoverse: HP scaling catalyst
Remember when everyone thought that the hydro archon would have a claymore😭
Bennett the former Pyro Archon will be the one and only Pyro Sword User
unless you have been living under a cave, its been long confirmed that Mavuika will be a claymore user...
I thought for sure Mualani was going to be the first hydro claymore since she uses her sharky as a huge bat one for attack. Was so disappointed to hear she was a catalyst
I think they try to keep some for the end of the game so that that they have still character to put out that are something new in the later games instead of throwing now everything out, like thats my theory to it
the sword that executed focalors IS a hydro claymore 😭🙏
Wouldnt it be Egeria? Focalors didnt die from a claymore
As much as I love Chasca with a bow and it does fit her character really well, I wish she was a Claymore user because I think that would also fit her really well
“Hopefully she will be a sword user” like she wasn’t using a claymore in the trailer or in the fight with Captaino
I kinda Like "THAT OUR 6 STAR ARCHON BENNY" Is The Only Pyro Sword user✨
I don't actually mind because some elements tend to prefer certain stats and it usually means I can get by NOT having 5 star weapons at my disposal.
we got all dendro combinations before a hydro claymore
In my opinion Xilonen fits catalyst too 👍
At this point, the hydro 2 hand should be as powerful lord Bennett himself.
To be fair, it makes sense by the elements. When you think of rocks you don't think of catalyst or bow..
i mean, throwing rocks is one of the easiest ways to hurt someone lol, and for me the elements doesnt need necessarily to make sense with weapons bc they are like energy
Hydro claymore user with shield will be insane
I think it may also depend on the element itself. I mean, hydro represents water, and anemo represents air, they are both really free flowing elements, both are really light and "free", so I think it makes sense that they don't use claymores much, they aren't meant to be really heavy. I think Aristotle or Socrates talked about the 4 elements being Earth, Water, Air and Fire, which are in order of weight by gravity for him. Now, for water this doesn't apply but for air it does, air is a light element and it makes sense that their people, who yearn freedom of soul, want to also be free physically, and as you can see in claymores' animation they are really heavy, time consuming in attacking and are not easy to use, so you can't exactly use them however you want. Same goes for hydro but it can make a bit more sense since water gets heavier the more pressure it has, but as for the element itself it is also a free flowing element, so there should also be more polearms for both hydro and anemo.
For pyro yeah, there probably should be more swords because after all the fire element is supposed to be kind of fast, really energetic, so other than polearms it would make sense for there to be more swords as well.
While Geo makes a bit more sense, it's a bit weird to think of geo bows, it's like shooting rocks, same as catalysts, they also just like throw rocks, even tho it would make a bit more sense elementally talking rather than bows.
Now, I may have missed something but I want to talk about some characters that should have probably have a different element, for example, Kaveh swinging his claymore without touching it, at this point they could have made him anemo, not that I think he shouldn't have been dendro, I very much like him this way, but if they did put an anemo claymore user then it would make sense for them to have an animation similar to Kaveh, since it gives them more "freedom" to move around. Or also Freminet, I don't mind him being Cryo, he's a great character, but for example, he works with water AND is a sub, which means he works with strong pressure waters, why not make him a water claymore user? It would have made sense and also added a claymore to hydro for the happiness of everyone who likes those two things. Again, I'm not saying they should have been like this or that, I'm just saying what would have made sense aesthetically and personality wise, while also making more people happy about the element-weapon combos
I belive that the lack of a hydro + claymore character is related to the archon lore of Fontaine (a claymore having been what ended the reign of their archon)
I'm from future and mavuika is a hot mommy riding a Kawasaki bike with swinging a claymore like a boomerang
Having xilonen as a dj music geo catalyst would have been fun.
I’m still waiting for a geo catalyst from the Sumeru desert☹️
Well, Chasca has a huge riding pistol, I can say, this is a very different weapon lol
what I wanna know is why on earth is ororon an electro bow 4 star so shortly after the tragedy that was sethos came out
@@barasmin7759 not all electro bow char are shit
freminet had no business being cryo the boy is literally a swimmer
Honestly I wish they would add more diversity and varieties to the characters and their weapon. It would make so much easier !!
People are so smart to judge a character before even seeing leaks or seeing what kinda kit they have or even their proper release. Yup genshin players.
remember when we thought ayato was gonna be a hydro claymore😭😭
I'ma hold everyones hand when I say this, Mavuika held a claymore during her fight with capitano..
People forget that just because a character uses a weapon in a cutscene doesn't equal their playable weapon. Sethos uses a polearm in his 1st cutscene ( idk if there's anymore )
My first thought when Ororon's element and weapon was revealed was "didn't Sethos JUST come out?"
it would be cool to see genshin make a character that can use every weapon like Childe
Focalors is the missing hydro claymore
Here go another player tip. You gotta -
I mean a hydro claymore really doesn't make sense... Their physical sword would hit harder than their hydro element 😂
i mean, i honestly dont think it needs to make sense, the versatily of the element could range a lot of things, is like how chiori use fabric to attack even being geo
@@Tsirkonfym?
In the cutscene fight between mauvika and capitano it can be seen that mavuika borrows a CLAYMORE from kinich to fight capitano so it's vonfirmed thats she is PYRO CLAYMORE CHARACTER
In the Archon quest, Mavuika used Kenich's weapon.
She used a claymore to fight capitano so there's no chance she will randomly turn into a sword user
Mavuika fought with a claymore against Capitano 😭