There’s no harm of staying a business or in your car if there are sketchy people hanging around & yes, always trust your instincts. That’s what they’re there for. There is no simple answer & there are no guarantees that you’ll win the altercation even if you’re well trained.
I was on the phone outside, alone one day and someone tried to … “sell me candy.” Training that centerline and keeping the hands up is massively important.
That's what usually happens when you really understand the wisdom of traditional martial arts in a legit dojo with a real master. The martial arts community has a very distorted image of styles such as Karate, Taekwondo, Kung Fu and others.
its hard to hate humble and honest practitioners who know when to say "I've never done that" I think a lot of the... frustration more than hate for traditional arts is around people who as mike was saying in the video completely ignore that there are different scenarios, events and situations and assume their situation is the "true" one, whether its traditional arts, or street fighters who say dirty tactics win. But compare that with people willing, eager to learn, happy to offer knowledge but humble enough to absorb it as well. It makes it impossible not to like that person and by extension the part of their life that they credit for building them up.
There’s a technique in HEMA (fiore specifically) that is pretty similar to that. Wrestling with a two handed grip on the weapon hand, and the opponent gets low, you can pull it between their legs and take them down. Sometimes they even flip
The lesson that icy Mike is teaching to Jesse is pure gold, "just run" is not an universal solution, self defense is about prevent the bad scenarios and have skills to overcome the bad intentions of some bad guys.
If someone told:"Just KO", people would remind it isn't always that easy. "Just run" isn't much better piece of advice. It can help if A: You're a better runner B: The attacker doesn't follow. Don't assume running is easy and safe. It can be.
@mikaluostarinen4858 always depends on the situation. for instance if there's a crowd of people a short way a way, you are less likely to be persued and only need a brief window. if it's a back alley with no one around for a while, well 1 I'd ask why you where there but, 2 that's a very different situation.
Yeah. People misunderstand it, when they are told running is the best self defence (after deescalating the situation before it gets to a fight). When you can run. Run. If you can't, fight until you can create the situation where you can run. Like Mike showed when Jesse got him to the ground. That is the point where he can run and escape. No need to fight more and risk injury.
when i clicked this I thought this dude was gonna spew some random BS but he has undoubtably some of the best/most realistic self defense takes I have heard on this platform. Kudos to Jesse for always having such high quality guest on his show and being a true martial artist sharing wisdom and being open minded.
I have to agree. He gave extremely reasonable and well-rounded answers without pigeonholing any topics and addressed the overall need for competence. Even better is how digestible the information was and how he boils down some complex scenarios to a very basic explanation.
@Riezmannzayd He doesn't really mean "don't run" He just hate those mindset, why? Because there's many everyday scenario when running isn't an optimal choices. If your mindset is "just run", you might automatically running a possible threat despite you have circumstances when running isn't optimal. He still does recommend running tho, in the "use your instincts" section.
@Riezmannzayd yeah, if you can run, then do it. But sometimes you need to defend first either due to location, distance, or threat. If you’re backed into a spot with no obvious exit route past an attacker, you should definitely be prepared and competent at defending yourself. Likewise, if they’ve already grabbed you in some way, like by a wrist or shirt, you probably can’t just turn and run.
@KARATEbyJesse Are standing kimuras and inside leg trips standard karate techniques? Also a wrestling run-the-pipe motion when you had him in the improvised wrist-control single leg.
Seeing Jesse actually fight is so amazing. I love that he has gotten into this realm of Mike and Seth. This mixture of tradition and very crisp technique with quick and dirty proven fighting is soo fun to watch and very helpful, because so many have this formal low contact youth training and now we see a way from there to actual fighting
@Tenchigumi I know I am a white belt , and I also know that I know I am a white belt, and I also know that I know I am a white belt who also knows he’s a white belt ……..AD ,
rare thing , is a combat instructor placing himself in the role of the weakest one in a fight, this guy is a true teacher of self defence. he is not winning every lesson that he teaches, he makes an effort to shine light on what Jesse is good about, and how it would serve Jesse in a street fight... refreshing stuff!
It takes years to a martial arts and self-defense practitioner to understand all these knowledge that Mike was able to summarize in 16 min. Videos like this are extremely valuable!
@carlodefalco7930 No, it's not. There are many myths in self-defense such as "don't kick in the head", "never take the fight to the ground", "don't strike with the fist to avoid injury", "all you need is a gun or knife to defend yourself", "to defend yourself you just need to use dirty techniques", "just run for your life", "never let the distance close" "repeating katas is excellent for self-defense", "sparring is not good training for self-defense", among many others. Many martial arts practitioners still believe in one or more of these myths. People who have never trained anything believe even more.
@MarinhoRFilhothese r obv m8, for example when they say don't hit the head, in karate for example, because you're sparring, but on the streets nobody says don't hit the head, we used to learn techniques to hit the face and the head, but we didn't use them in sparring so the opponent doesn't get hurt, which usually in local sparring would be a friend or a mate.
As someone who's had to defend himself from multiple, larger opponents inside my own building's stairs, I stand by the front kick. It's _literally_ a life saver.
I love that this guy was honest, no BS, no “tough guy” attitude. He’s taking everything as both a teaching and a learning opportunity, acknowledging that Jesse is a bigger, more powerful guy and that while Karate may be a combat sport, it still has applicability in a real life scenario by virtue of simply knowing how to throw a punch. His advice was practical and no nonsense. Reminds me of my JJJ sensei who put a heavy focus on real world self defence
You don't need attitude when you know you going to win a fight if it starts. Its always the smaller unassuming guys that you need to worry the most about. Those wiry fuckers can move like lightning.
This dude isn't just a good fighter, he's a good teacher It takes a LOT of understanding to be able to express complex concepts with minimalist language I would love to see this guy have a brainstorm session with the people who are doing fight manual revival/interpretation; stuff like Fiore or Meyer or Vadi. Because, as he said, 'violence is violence' and fight philosophy is universal
Icy Mike isn't too big on HEMA stuff. He doesn't really see it as relevant, considering most people don't fight with swords and bucklers anymore. I disagree, considering grappling and basic striking is the foundation of most Western systems involving weapons. But most HEMA clubs just nerd over swords and neglect wrestling/other aspects to begin with.
Somewhere here on the tube there's an interesting comparison of hema vs modern knife fighting. I think a big part seemed to be that people wore more clothes back then, and you really don't wanna kill anyone nowadays
This is actually a very educative intro into the world of Streetfighting. I've seen hundreds of videos about this kind of thing, but this is the first one with a very realistic approach. You rock, Jesse!
i watched Mike for quite some time and i want to tell you that you perfectly showed a host in a way where he was able to explain most of the knowledge without being interupted but he was also being asked the important questions from you who was also subtly and nicely putting in experience and opinions to his teaching. I didnt even watch the whole video yet i had to stop to comment this because your way of "interviewing" is simply brilliant keep up the good work!
I hope you are joking because if not that is the most cowardly act a person can do. Kick a man or woman when they are already on the floor is the lowest of the low. I have no respect for people like that.
It really depends.. to your point accessing threat. It depends on the intentions of the guy coming at you. If it’s just a disagreement over something I can see using restraint. But if someone is out to rob you or kill- I wouldn’t use restraint. It’s a “me or him” moment.
@Beggars-BeliefI’m an ex-cop and we patrolled alone-one cop to a car. When I walked a beat it was alone. There were plenty of fights and altercations without a partner.
Street awareness has only a few rules: 1. Always be respectful to strangers until you can't be. Respect is the law on the streets. Your ego will get you maimed or killed. 2. Always know your surroundings BEFORE you commit to anything. This includes expecting that no one will come to your aide. Your ego will get you maimed or killed. 3. Always have an escape plan. Bullies, oppressors, thugs, etc. always travel in groups and don't fight fair. Just because you don't see the others, assume they're near or on their way. Real life fighting isn't the action movies. Your ego will get you maimed or killed.
" Just because you don't see the others, assume they're near or on their way". That's why when people say BJJ and taking someone to the ground is superior, it only goes so far when you got the dude on the ground and 2 of his buddies enter the fight and start kicking you in the head and such.
The sheer amount of honesty delivered with respect, humility, and no doubt experience; made this such a refreshingly educational and fascinating video. Thank you, both of you. Love your stuff Jesse, keep it up.
The second you realize there's guys walking around that wouldn't last 1 round in a cage against Jon Jones but those same guys could end Jon Jone's life in 30 seconds on the street, if for no reason other than underestimation, surprise, concealed weapons, more opportune timing, or just straight up more killer instinct (of which Jones has plenty), your paradigm begins to shift and the way you look at combat changes forever
You are seriously underestimating Jon Jones in a street fight scenario. he's one of the most malicious MMA fighters ever and trains with guns , always carries ahd openly boasts about training to kill people not just win fights. you don't know much about Bones do you ?; he's the LAST guy you would want to seriously go up against in a street fight. even if you have a gun he's probably more than ready at all times for that too. he's not your average MMA guy
"Violence is a language. You either speak it or you don't. " Truer words never spoken. It's a shame it has to be spoken. So many bad people in the world. This is a good video.
The more I watch and listen to Mike, the more, even with some Muay Thai training, to just really try to not put myself in a precarious position... People are crazy nowadays. Too many variables. Not worth it.
@nudaveritas8195 Practicing helps with calmness usually actual fighters might be too calm in the streets instead of having a tunnel vision which is why practicing is great (sparring)
I have never lost a street fight until recently. I grew up in a city that saw and encouraged young men of low wage working-class backgrounds to be tough. As a young boy, I often found myself in fights. Fortunately and unbeknownst to me, I was a good fighter. So, with that brief qualifier, I will get to my point, which is that I am recognising my growing limitations with increasing age. So for the first time in my life, I am looking more at avoidance and less at proving myself.
@michaeltpowers5316 Yes, sir... The first mistake of the undefeated is assuming they're invincible. Pride goes before the fall, and all of that. Wisdom only comes with age. Sounds like you got lucky and dodged quite a few bullets when you were young... The vast majority of which you had no idea whizzed passed your head
I love this martial arts channels colab universe. Instead of trash talking or "competing" for viewers you guys got together and shared your knowledge and viewers with each other to everyone's benefit.
"No one's ever been taught this Jesse!" 🤣 This guy is great. Very engaging, knows his stuff, accepts what he doesn't know, keeps it very real. Also, he isn't massive, he is quite un assuming but you know he is deadly. Great guest to have. Would love to see more with him in the future.
@auntoneyofuntease6704actually not exactly how that works at all maybe just maybe in promotional situations depending on dept but fto they usually pick the guys that can train the future guys usually
As a bouncer who was only 5'10 I was always at a disadvantage with larger opponents. My most useful moves were the single and double leg takedown like pointed out in the video. Another beneficial one was the vovinam single arm takedown from the clinch. Vovinam is a good martial art for smaller people. I also trained Northern Shaolin and BJJ for a few years. This was an incredible display of real scenarios that are often not seen. 10/10. Both of you are amazing to see and putting thousands of bullshido gurus to shame with real life examples shown at an extremely high level. Just awesome. More people should see this.
I bet when you’re training on a bag, youre aiming for the face of a bloke thats a foot taller than you - but you never see tall blokes punching a bag nearly 2 feet below their face! I’m no expert by any means I’m 5’8 I had to defend myself once from a lanky 6’8 lamp post lookalike and I was just as shocked as he was when his blows all went over the top of my head or hit my arm because I grabbed his collar and choked him with my left before I threw any actual hands at him. Two punches in the mouth and he decided that was enough
In my experience, taller people tend to underestimate shorter people. I am about 5’9.5”, guys taller/bigger than me that I have had to “lay hands” on almost always underestimate me because of height.
If you're talking about height... it actually the taller people that have a disadvantage against shorter people. If you had a disadvantage against taller people then it just skill issue and had nothing to do with being 5'10"
Genuinely curious, as a bouncer, were you shouting those double legs and singles on the pavement? What did the takedown look like compared to the environment you were in? Thanks for any responses!
I was a bouncer for 10 years and have been in numerous violent encounters. I am also trained in multiple martial arts... The one thing I recomend, is train in actual street clothes, because that is the only way you will find out what works or not. Most of what I know how to do was useless when I was wearing jeans, heavy boots, a jacket, and carrying a heavy flashlight in my pocket. It is easy to do techmiques in shorts and a tshirt, but that is not what youare wearing everyday... so put on jeans, a jacket, shoes, boots, a skirt, heels, a backpack, a prse, etc... and train in that. That will teach you the limitations of your style and how to mod it for a real survival situation. AND PRESSURE TEST CONSTANTLY.
Training with stuff in your pockets is also pretty good, most people have no idea of how much a big phone in a not very deep front pocket limits your mobility
That is something I must always smile about. There are people who can lift their feet straight over their head. But that is far away from a useful skill in a real scenario struggle if you just wear a casual business trouser and a phone and key in your pockets.
I was in a street fight outside of a bar where I worked, and I was really into Taekwondo at that time. I let the dude get back up like it was a sparring match instead of trying to punish him while he was down. It did not even occur to me to attack him while he was down. It wasn't pity; it was due to habit from training where attacking a downed opponent is taboo. Hitting him while he was down seemed like dirty fighting, and I was a lot more capable on my feet anyway. I later learned that he was wearing brass knuckles when he tried to discard it after the fight was over.
I don't know , but through my yrs of experiences, street fights is always dirty, that's why I always carry a small knife, just in case, n it kept me alive after all these night life yrs.
/facepalm told ws my main style originally but whomever trained you either didnt knownwyat they were doing or did you a major disservice by not training you fir the real world vs sparring/ contests etc Tkd if used properly can be very effective but you cant learn it only with the mindset of sparring or those that learn it for movies only (I've worked with a bunch of them over the yrs and very few would last in a real fight despite "earning their bb" and using flashy moves for the camera only
This was great from the first minute. I was really impressed by Jesse's ability, and Mike's lack of ego in the exchanges; some instructors would be obsessed with not losing in any exchange, but Mike's focus was on instructing.
The hat throw, then the camera diversion, was excellent. The training scenarios, and the way they played out actually felt real. A lot of demonstrations usually have a "master" who is never beaten and does all the cool variations, but we have two masters here who are just trying things with each other, with no predictable outcome, demonstrating the chaos of street fights.
very true. there's never a surefire technique to win every situation. there's a human element and you both have a say on what happens. you have to be able to flow and be aware of all of your options as advantages. this was a great video that I'm sure opened a lot of people's eyes.@KARATEbyJesse
I learned Bruce Lee's side kick where you raise your hand in the air like you are reaching for something on the top of his head. Then you explode with the sidekick while he is diverted for a half second.
It is in the cop's great interest to understand how criminals operate: he must understand how one might break into a house, that he might find the telltale signs of it. It is in the criminal's great interest to understand how cops operate: she must understand how cops search for the signs of break-ins, that she might conceal any telltale sign of it. A successful attack requires understanding of defense, just as a successful defense requires understanding of attack; at the limit, these skillsets are the same ☯ How one chooses to use these skills, however, makes all the difference in the world.
Aside from my own desire my parents put me in Karate as a kid because we were in a rough neighborhood. So I had to learn both at the same time. I have to say that Karate REALLY gave me a huge edge but you have to know how to apply it in real situations and not just sparring or tournaments. I'm glad that Mike brought up the difficulty of doing things while someone can pummel your face. That is my biggest peeve when I hear people talk about fighting that haven't actually had to fight for their own safety before. You also can't see jack except a fist when you're getting hit in the face. People imagine fights like they're lookin through a camera or something instead of what you'll actually be seeing in a fight.
Wrestling teaches you the same thing to an extent. Not really in highschool cause there's little hand fighting, but definitely in college. Dudes hands are all in your face specifically to cover your eyes for a takedown. Or smothering you stuffing any attempt you could make.
Any martial training gives an edge over anyone without it. If an untrained person has to think about what they are doing then the trained person has an edge, and if the untrained person is not thinking then they are throwing a right hook, which gives the trained person an edge.
Being able to think calmly while in a real fight is the biggest thing IMO for the average person to pick up regardless of whatever style of martial arts they’re learning.
Same thing with every and all spinning techniques. You don't expect a foot to come flying from "behind the person". Cause that's what it feels like, the spin hide the actual kick or punch and now you suddenly just have something flying towards your face in 390 miles per hour and no time to react.
So true , I was watching an action movie with a few mates and the fight scene where the baddies were taking turns to fight the goodie . We all looked at each other thinking the same thing, it would be nice if that happened in real street fights, which we all had been in a few times.
I did kickboxing/combative for 14 years but now do Bjj (gi and no gi) for about 5-6 months now and this dude spoke more truth in this 16min video than any "self defense" or martial arts youtuber ive ever seen. Cops know whats up and ive worked with and trained with many who said the same thing this man did. I think im going to give @hard2hurt a follow and subscribe now, this is a no BS dude and i like that!
RUclips needs more uploads like this. Honest, no BS, no ego wank & reality based. That kind of training can help save lives. It can take many years to reach a high level of proficiency. But it may take many more to find a REALLY decent teacher. This ex cop is .
The fact that Mike even said "I was trying to show you but you're too powerful" says a lot. Man has no issues admitting he got overpowered in this "training" match. But Jesse also followed up with genuine interest in what Mike was teaching. Both had absolute respect for the other person.
I loved what he said about the "just run" thing, I've always thought about the same, like should I just run away from the attackers and leave behind my slower friends or family to the scenario alone? No way!
Running away greatly reduces the possibility of death and in a pure survival scenario that is objectively one of if not the best thing to do. I repeat: the 100 bucks in your wallet is not worth the 1000 dollars somebody's gotta for over for your funeral
"Violence is violence" is a real truth. I learned martial arts as a kid and i rarely ended up in fights, and if i did i knew the rules of combat if thats what you want to call it. An example would be that if youre beat, you give up, which isnt something you know by nature. Also, you learn to carry yourself as someone as a person who know how to fight, which surprisingly leads to you getting into less fights.
Most people don't want to fight with people who know how to fight. It's not like hoodies are anime protagonists on mission to become best fighters by beating other best, or ancient death cult members who will try to attack you no matter what. They want to easily intimidate/mug/beat victim. If they see somebody looking like he knows how to fight and is trained they back off.
Martial arts skill is not a force field. And the end of the day intent beats skill. Martial arts rlly only work against low to mild intent and it depends how u use it.
I am an MMA fighter who has learned boxing, Muay Thai, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I've read many comics about different combat styles, and even got into a few fights back when I was in school. While I was learning these martial arts, I often pondered the differences between street fighting and the arena, how to win by any means necessary, and how to select the most effective fighting techniques for street combat. I believe this video aligns with many of my thoughts. It's highly valuable!
This is one of the best videos I've seen on real-life self defense, Would love to see a follow up collab between you too in different locations and scenarios
This is one of the greatest breakdowns, if not the single greatest breakdown, I have ever seen & heard on real-to-life hand-to hand combat. Very comprehensive & practical.
Best self-defense video I've seen in a long time. Mike's voluminous experience as an officer and his martial arts training has taught him well and for Jesse it's a matter of taking the sometimes rigid form of karate techniques (and his considerable athleticism and skill through years of repetitive practice) and using them intelligently by changing his mindset about how to use them. Great stuff guys!
"Your ability to throw that kick far outstrips the ability of any of these yoho's out here to defend a kick" - love this point. My sensei always tells us to remember more often that not if you get into a fight the other person has not learned how to properly throw a punch or a kick and we can use that against them.
Spacey3000what does bro have against sensei? its the same effect as saying instructor, coach, teacher, or pretty much any other word of similar meaning
This is probably the best video I have seen of either of you. Nicely done. I have never had to defend myself from serious violence, so I don't teach self-defence nor claim to teach it. I only teach what I know. If I had to define self-defence, I would say it is: "The use of intelligence, emotion and physics to overcome violence." For me, the points Mike makes in this video are exactly that.
Been training in martial arts for nearly 30 yrs. This is one of the most useful self defence vids I've seen. Reminiscent of Geoff Thompson material from the 90s.
What was so good about this video was not the actual fighting (which was great and interesting) but the ways to change your thinking about threat. The whole "we don't protect ourselves because we don't want to be rude" was so true.
This was for me by far the best realistic explanation to understand the street fight situation. I practice karate, but never really gave a thought about how actually there is no rule or referee in a street fight. I literally subscribed after watching this episode. Thank you, love to watch and learn more.
In a street fight, EVERYTHING is a weapon or hazard. Furniture, square edged surfaces, anything handheld or ropelike.. the door or window.. it all depends how far someone's willing to take it.
Awesome video. This guy's the real deal. Seen a street fight one guy against two idiots just looking to fight, he was just defending himself and prevent the two from surrounding him and he landed a perfect high head kick to one of the idiots, he was obviously well trained and a competitive fighter and the two idiots backed off pretty quick. I don't condone violence on the street but it was a thing of beauty.
Hands down one of the best explanations for and about self-defense and MMA especially for anyone not training a combat sport. This 16 minutes sums up the reality of combat sports and self-defense as succinctly possible. No fluff or BS.
That was one of the best demonstrated and discussed practical application of self defense I have seen in a long time. No bravado, no ego, just straightforward wisdom. Great job.
Oh man, I absolutely love these collabs. This FightTube community is amazing, from Jesse to Mike to Seth to Kevin and so on. We always get so much out of every video they do together and what's awesome is you can tell that they do, too.
Saw a guy get stabbed to death in China by a dude twice his size, was over in like 10 seconds. It was over some comment by the victim sitting with his friends drinking and talking shit and the attacker was a stocky guy sitting by himself that just walked over to him and started sticking him before anyone could react. Victim stood up and fell right down after, didn't even seem like he was aware he had been stabbed multiple times. You can't defend yourself from that except not talking shit to strangers or not go out drinking.
Like John Correia from active self protection says, stay away from going to stupid places, with stupid people at stupid times doing stupid things. The Big 4 S's.
Fantastic video. I love how a lot of what Mike touched on is that anyone trained extensively in a combat sport (martial art, wrestling, MMA) becomes intimately familiar with combat in the sport's context. Fighting within those rules, against opponents who understand that environment. Street fighting doesn't suddenly make those techniques invalid at all, but changes the environment and context adding so many other considerations, and if you are stuck with a narrow, sport specific mindset it will be a disadvantage.
15 year cop that worked in Stockton, CA area. The greatest advice I was given and I heard in the video is LISTEN to your instinct. That Spidey Sense is invaluable!!! Other things are WEAPONS OF OPPORTUNITY and last thing, there is NO SHAME in sprinting your ass out of danger!! Create distance baby...hundreds of yards of it!!
Who won? 😎
Definitely you Jesse.😊
@xandermtb12I might have gotten stabbed about 3 times though 😂
The Swedish karateka, named Jesse, has won.
Team Jesse forever!
You are safe so everyone wins, kudos.
"Trust your instinct. When something feels weird, it is weird." Probably the best advice I've heard to survive in a fishy area.
exactly
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Said every insecure person ever!
There’s no harm of staying a business or in your car if there are sketchy people hanging around & yes, always trust your instincts. That’s what they’re there for. There is no simple answer & there are no guarantees that you’ll win the altercation even if you’re well trained.
I was on the phone outside, alone one day and someone tried to … “sell me candy.”
Training that centerline and keeping the hands up is massively important.
A wise man once said... "I can't let you get close."
Thanks uncle Chael.
SONNEN! Nice reference dude!
Ohhhh shoot, that episode was soooo lit! Wanderlei said , we go NOW! He found out real quick😂😂😂😂😂
Then took Vanderlei down while saying "fuckin' amateur".
WANNANOW
Respect to the American Gangster ✊🏻🇺🇲
It's funny how Mike went from hating karate to colaborating with karatekas - Wonderboy, Seth, Varga and one and only The Karate Nerd 😊
He has a big heart 😊
That’s because Jesse taught him a lesson he’ll never forget
I don't think Mike's attitude towards karate has changed significantly over the years.
That's what usually happens when you really understand the wisdom of traditional martial arts in a legit dojo with a real master. The martial arts community has a very distorted image of styles such as Karate, Taekwondo, Kung Fu and others.
its hard to hate humble and honest practitioners who know when to say "I've never done that" I think a lot of the... frustration more than hate for traditional arts is around people who as mike was saying in the video completely ignore that there are different scenarios, events and situations and assume their situation is the "true" one, whether its traditional arts, or street fighters who say dirty tactics win.
But compare that with people willing, eager to learn, happy to offer knowledge but humble enough to absorb it as well. It makes it impossible not to like that person and by extension the part of their life that they credit for building them up.
11:03 "If it feels wierd, it is wierd" Yeah, my Art teacher told: If it feels right, it is right, if not, its not right.
I gotta start working on that single leg with the wrist tie... what a dope takedown Jesse.
It was pretty good. And your insights were good as always.
You made it happen!! 🔥 Thanks for being a great teacher, colleague and friend Mike 🙏
Or to put him in cradle position. Works in a similar way.
We want the tutorial !
There’s a technique in HEMA (fiore specifically) that is pretty similar to that. Wrestling with a two handed grip on the weapon hand, and the opponent gets low, you can pull it between their legs and take them down. Sometimes they even flip
The lesson that icy Mike is teaching to Jesse is pure gold, "just run" is not an universal solution, self defense is about prevent the bad scenarios and have skills to overcome the bad intentions of some bad guys.
It’s one of many possible solutions 👍
If someone told:"Just KO", people would remind it isn't always that easy. "Just run" isn't much better piece of advice. It can help if A: You're a better runner B: The attacker doesn't follow. Don't assume running is easy and safe. It can be.
I live in Canada. The law states you have a duty to retreat even in your own home. Its total bullshit and only gets people hurt or killed.
@mikaluostarinen4858 always depends on the situation. for instance if there's a crowd of people a short way a way, you are less likely to be persued and only need a brief window. if it's a back alley with no one around for a while, well 1 I'd ask why you where there but, 2 that's a very different situation.
Yeah. People misunderstand it, when they are told running is the best self defence (after deescalating the situation before it gets to a fight). When you can run. Run. If you can't, fight until you can create the situation where you can run. Like Mike showed when Jesse got him to the ground. That is the point where he can run and escape. No need to fight more and risk injury.
when i clicked this I thought this dude was gonna spew some random BS but he has undoubtably some of the best/most realistic self defense takes I have heard on this platform. Kudos to Jesse for always having such high quality guest on his show and being a true martial artist sharing wisdom and being open minded.
I have to agree. He gave extremely reasonable and well-rounded answers without pigeonholing any topics and addressed the overall need for competence. Even better is how digestible the information was and how he boils down some complex scenarios to a very basic explanation.
I was confused on something, some people say when you get attact just run but this man say don't run, so i confused, which is true?
@Riezmannzayd
He doesn't really mean "don't run"
He just hate those mindset, why? Because there's many everyday scenario when running isn't an optimal choices. If your mindset is "just run", you might automatically running a possible threat despite you have circumstances when running isn't optimal.
He still does recommend running tho, in the "use your instincts" section.
@trirahmat5384 ahh i see.. so, when i need to run and when i need to fight? Thanks for the explanation bro, appreciate it.
@Riezmannzayd yeah, if you can run, then do it. But sometimes you need to defend first either due to location, distance, or threat. If you’re backed into a spot with no obvious exit route past an attacker, you should definitely be prepared and competent at defending yourself. Likewise, if they’ve already grabbed you in some way, like by a wrist or shirt, you probably can’t just turn and run.
You can tell this guy was a coach and has knowledge.
1/2 of what he says is bull$hit.
@markobrien690great, thanks. 😂
@markobrien690really ??
@markobrien690
Please develop I wanna know why
@markobrien690 Elaborate?
This is so good, gentlemen 👏 Hope this really sinks in and helps to keep (good) people safe!
Thanks Shane! 👍
What do you mean by good?
@jonathanwu6508People who don't walk around picking fights with everybody.
Good and evil is subjective
@drm.himselfNo, that is a LIE.
I love how Jesse is always so humble and willing to learn even though he is an expert in combat himself!
I’m just a Karate Nerd 🥋🙏
We Love ❤️ you man!!! 🙋
@KARATEbyJesse Are standing kimuras and inside leg trips standard karate techniques? Also a wrestling run-the-pipe motion when you had him in the improvised wrist-control single leg.
1 minutue with sensei segal makes him above us all!
The more you learn, you realize the less you know.
Seeing Jesse actually fight is so amazing. I love that he has gotten into this realm of Mike and Seth. This mixture of tradition and very crisp technique with quick and dirty proven fighting is soo fun to watch and very helpful, because so many have this formal low contact youth training and now we see a way from there to actual fighting
Thanks, glad to hear! 👍
@KARATEbyJesseI think the white belt mindset that you take one over and over again is what ultimately makes you a great teacher and martial artist
@thor498 "All I know is that I know I'm a white belt."
- Socrates. Sorta.
He really can make Karate as Street Fighting form.
@Tenchigumi
I know I am a white belt , and I also know that I know I am a white belt, and I also know that I know I am a white belt who also knows he’s a white belt ……..AD ,
rare thing , is a combat instructor placing himself in the role of the weakest one in a fight, this guy is a true teacher of self defence. he is not winning every lesson that he teaches, he makes an effort to shine light on what Jesse is good about, and how it would serve Jesse in a street fight... refreshing stuff!
It takes years to a martial arts and self-defense practitioner to understand all these knowledge that Mike was able to summarize in 16 min. Videos like this are extremely valuable!
Agree! Worth watching several times ;-)
Everything he said is very obvious..making it end in your favour is the thing to learn n master
@carlodefalco7930 No, it's not. There are many myths in self-defense such as "don't kick in the head", "never take the fight to the ground", "don't strike with the fist to avoid injury", "all you need is a gun or knife to defend yourself", "to defend yourself you just need to use dirty techniques", "just run for your life", "never let the distance close" "repeating katas is excellent for self-defense", "sparring is not good training for self-defense", among many others. Many martial arts practitioners still believe in one or more of these myths. People who have never trained anything believe even more.
@MarinhoRFilhothese r obv m8, for example when they say don't hit the head, in karate for example, because you're sparring, but on the streets nobody says don't hit the head, we used to learn techniques to hit the face and the head, but we didn't use them in sparring so the opponent doesn't get hurt, which usually in local sparring would be a friend or a mate.
As someone who's had to defend himself from multiple, larger opponents inside my own building's stairs, I stand by the front kick. It's _literally_ a life saver.
damn, glad u okey
@truthseeker2248he is dead, it happened 2 years ago
lol bruh
You lucky they didn’t catch your foot
What the heck, where do you live, Gotham?
I love that this guy was honest, no BS, no “tough guy” attitude. He’s taking everything as both a teaching and a learning opportunity, acknowledging that Jesse is a bigger, more powerful guy and that while Karate may be a combat sport, it still has applicability in a real life scenario by virtue of simply knowing how to throw a punch.
His advice was practical and no nonsense. Reminds me of my JJJ sensei who put a heavy focus on real world self defence
Karate is a self defence system not a sport.
@x_Maria_Konsta Pretty sure it's both nowadays.
The single leg and the kimura he did are not from karate though. He is much more.
You don't need attitude when you know you going to win a fight if it starts. Its always the smaller unassuming guys that you need to worry the most about. Those wiry fuckers can move like lightning.
Also reminds me of Charlie from It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia
Been said: Never fear the man that practices a thousand techniques. Instead fear the man that practices one technique a thousand times.
This dude isn't just a good fighter, he's a good teacher
It takes a LOT of understanding to be able to express complex concepts with minimalist language
I would love to see this guy have a brainstorm session with the people who are doing fight manual revival/interpretation; stuff like Fiore or Meyer or Vadi. Because, as he said, 'violence is violence' and fight philosophy is universal
Icy Mike isn't too big on HEMA stuff. He doesn't really see it as relevant, considering most people don't fight with swords and bucklers anymore. I disagree, considering grappling and basic striking is the foundation of most Western systems involving weapons. But most HEMA clubs just nerd over swords and neglect wrestling/other aspects to begin with.
"minimalistic language"
Me: punch. face. HARD!
I imagine unarmed armizare will still be fairly relevant, but the dagger defense of the time likely wouldn't translate well to modern weapons
Somewhere here on the tube there's an interesting comparison of hema vs modern knife fighting. I think a big part seemed to be that people wore more clothes back then, and you really don't wanna kill anyone nowadays
I love how he got pinned and just laughed and went “yea we can both learn something from this see?”
This is actually a very educative intro into the world of Streetfighting. I've seen hundreds of videos about this kind of thing, but this is the first one with a very realistic approach. You rock, Jesse!
You rock too!!
But what you don't and WON'T see is him in a REAL fight, not just talking. All hat and no bulls.
Avoid street fights and always carry concealed where it is legal.
i watched Mike for quite some time and i want to tell you that you perfectly showed a host in a way where he was able to explain most of the knowledge without being interupted but he was also being asked the important questions from you who was also subtly and nicely putting in experience and opinions to his teaching. I didnt even watch the whole video yet i had to stop to comment this because your way of "interviewing" is simply brilliant keep up the good work!
Thank you!
WELL SAID!!
Agreed!
This is the comment I wanted to make, except worded much better!
Yeah, man! This guy interviewed Steven Seagal and didn't even Crack a smile!!
"I said I kicked people in the head, well they were on the ground when I did it" that got me rolling 😂😂😂
I hope you are joking because if not that is the most cowardly act a person can do. Kick a man or woman when they are already on the floor is the lowest of the low. I have no respect for people like that.
@timshort9894if it's life or death shit doesn't matter, a street fight with is never fair, fights are never fair
Big respect for "I just didn't want to break his arm," knowing how to accurately assess a threat and show restraint.
It really depends.. to your point accessing threat. It depends on the intentions of the guy coming at you. If it’s just a disagreement over something I can see using restraint. But if someone is out to rob you or kill- I wouldn’t use restraint. It’s a “me or him” moment.
The most cop statement ever "I've kicked people in the head, but they were on the ground when I did it."
Only applied to US cops. In Europe cops are not assaulting or straight up murdering civilians lol. You guys should do something about your police..
You nailed it!
Yeah couldnt have been from the over 200 street fights he partcipated in lmao
Cop might have been in fights everyday but always had a partner with him.
@Beggars-BeliefI’m an ex-cop and we patrolled alone-one cop to a car. When I walked a beat it was alone. There were plenty of fights and altercations without a partner.
Street awareness has only a few rules:
1. Always be respectful to strangers until you can't be. Respect is the law on the streets. Your ego will get you maimed or killed.
2. Always know your surroundings BEFORE you commit to anything. This includes expecting that no one will come to your aide. Your ego will get you maimed or killed.
3. Always have an escape plan. Bullies, oppressors, thugs, etc. always travel in groups and don't fight fair. Just because you don't see the others, assume they're near or on their way. Real life fighting isn't the action movies. Your ego will get you maimed or killed.
" Just because you don't see the others, assume they're near or on their way". That's why when people say BJJ and taking someone to the ground is superior, it only goes so far when you got the dude on the ground and 2 of his buddies enter the fight and start kicking you in the head and such.
@teleguy5699 U r on point, no one should b on the ground, in street altercation.
I feel like there's a reason you said that 3 times... 🤔
i love posting subliminal messaging on the internet
And always know your first weapon. Even if it's your keys, a rock nearby. No reason not use a weapon to defend yourself
5:20 the moment when you question life
The sheer amount of honesty delivered with respect, humility, and no doubt experience; made this such a refreshingly educational and fascinating video. Thank you, both of you. Love your stuff Jesse, keep it up.
Wow, thank you! 🙏
The second you realize there's guys walking around that wouldn't last 1 round in a cage against Jon Jones but those same guys could end Jon Jone's life in 30 seconds on the street, if for no reason other than underestimation, surprise, concealed weapons, more opportune timing, or just straight up more killer instinct (of which Jones has plenty), your paradigm begins to shift and the way you look at combat changes forever
You are seriously underestimating Jon Jones in a street fight scenario. he's one of the most malicious MMA fighters ever and trains with guns , always carries ahd openly boasts about training to kill people not just win fights. you don't know much about Bones do you ?; he's the LAST guy you would want to seriously go up against in a street fight. even if you have a gun he's probably more than ready at all times for that too. he's not your average MMA guy
JJ is a psychopath, he runs with cars into other people on drugs and runs away, what do you expect
"Violence is a language. You either speak it or you don't. " Truer words never spoken. It's a shame it has to be spoken. So many bad people in the world. This is a good video.
The more I watch and listen to Mike, the more, even with some Muay Thai training, to just really try to not put myself in a precarious position...
People are crazy nowadays. Too many variables. Not worth it.
So true!
@nudaveritas8195 Practicing helps with calmness usually actual fighters might be too calm in the streets instead of having a tunnel vision which is why practicing is great (sparring)
i think to run or walk away is the best option. you are in a very bad situation if they run after you..
I have never lost a street fight until recently. I grew up in a city that saw and encouraged young men of low wage working-class backgrounds to be tough. As a young boy, I often found myself in fights. Fortunately and unbeknownst to me, I was a good fighter. So, with that brief qualifier, I will get to my point, which is that I am recognising my growing limitations with increasing age. So for the first time in my life, I am looking more at avoidance and less at proving myself.
@michaeltpowers5316 Yes, sir...
The first mistake of the undefeated is assuming they're invincible. Pride goes before the fall, and all of that.
Wisdom only comes with age. Sounds like you got lucky and dodged quite a few bullets when you were young... The vast majority of which you had no idea whizzed passed your head
Being open minded enough to know that you don't have all the answers, and don't underestimate your opponent.
I love this martial arts channels colab universe. Instead of trash talking or "competing" for viewers you guys got together and shared your knowledge and viewers with each other to everyone's benefit.
It’s like the RUclips martial arts avengers
"No one's ever been taught this Jesse!" 🤣 This guy is great. Very engaging, knows his stuff, accepts what he doesn't know, keeps it very real. Also, he isn't massive, he is quite un assuming but you know he is deadly. Great guest to have. Would love to see more with him in the future.
@hard2hurt
How do you know he is deadly? This just looked like some weird foreplay to me. They practiced pining eachother to a truck...
"I was a police officer" That explains a lot. From the weapons to the attitude to the new career.
He was a trainer. Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.
@auntoneyofuntease6704 Sounds like he's just a powerless thug now.
@auntoneyofuntease6704 he was also part of a SWAT team .
@auntoneyofuntease6704actually not exactly how that works at all maybe just maybe in promotional situations depending on dept but fto they usually pick the guys that can train the future guys usually
@AngelusNielson Only difference between a powerless thug and a cop is that the cop has legal power.
That guy is good !! Cheers from Berlin / Germany !
This guy understands violence as well as RUclips comments
LOL
That's funny
You know what they say about a joke if there isn't a little bit of truth to it it's not funny
Except the one about the man pooping in the woman's purse LOL
@JohnPlummer-e6k Yo 1 reply is enough 2 max what is this bro
Finally a self defense video that isn’t ridiculous.
right
Because it is not defence, it's fight or flight, properly laid out
If you can, flight
If you can't, fight until you can
@rafalborkowski This is the most Krav Maga video i've seen so far
As a bouncer who was only 5'10 I was always at a disadvantage with larger opponents. My most useful moves were the single and double leg takedown like pointed out in the video. Another beneficial one was the vovinam single arm takedown from the clinch. Vovinam is a good martial art for smaller people. I also trained Northern Shaolin and BJJ for a few years. This was an incredible display of real scenarios that are often not seen. 10/10. Both of you are amazing to see and putting thousands of bullshido gurus to shame with real life examples shown at an extremely high level. Just awesome. More people should see this.
I bet when you’re training on a bag, youre aiming for the face of a bloke thats a foot taller than you - but you never see tall blokes punching a bag nearly 2 feet below their face! I’m no expert by any means I’m 5’8 I had to defend myself once from a lanky 6’8 lamp post lookalike and I was just as shocked as he was when his blows all went over the top of my head or hit my arm because I grabbed his collar and choked him with my left before I threw any actual hands at him. Two punches in the mouth and he decided that was enough
In my experience, taller people tend to underestimate shorter people. I am about 5’9.5”, guys taller/bigger than me that I have had to “lay hands” on almost always underestimate me because of height.
How many of his friends leg stomp on you when you do the take down ? 😭
If you're talking about height... it actually the taller people that have a disadvantage against shorter people. If you had a disadvantage against taller people then it just skill issue and had nothing to do with being 5'10"
Genuinely curious, as a bouncer, were you shouting those double legs and singles on the pavement? What did the takedown look like compared to the environment you were in? Thanks for any responses!
I was shrimped up on the ground a month ago, against 10 people. This is a breath of fresh air.
I was a bouncer for 10 years and have been in numerous violent encounters. I am also trained in multiple martial arts... The one thing I recomend, is train in actual street clothes, because that is the only way you will find out what works or not. Most of what I know how to do was useless when I was wearing jeans, heavy boots, a jacket, and carrying a heavy flashlight in my pocket. It is easy to do techmiques in shorts and a tshirt, but that is not what youare wearing everyday... so put on jeans, a jacket, shoes, boots, a skirt, heels, a backpack, a prse, etc... and train in that. That will teach you the limitations of your style and how to mod it for a real survival situation. AND PRESSURE TEST CONSTANTLY.
Training with stuff in your pockets is also pretty good, most people have no idea of how much a big phone in a not very deep front pocket limits your mobility
And ladies put your heels on and go play self defence
@yvonnesanders4308 Or maybe just don't wear heels, they're terrible not just for self defense situations, but for you body aswell
That is something I must always smile about. There are people who can lift their feet straight over their head. But that is far away from a useful skill in a real scenario struggle if you just wear a casual business trouser and a phone and key in your pockets.
Pressure makes diamonds! 👍 But it also bursts pipes 😅
I was in a street fight outside of a bar where I worked, and I was really into Taekwondo at that time. I let the dude get back up like it was a sparring match instead of trying to punish him while he was down. It did not even occur to me to attack him while he was down. It wasn't pity; it was due to habit from training where attacking a downed opponent is taboo. Hitting him while he was down seemed like dirty fighting, and I was a lot more capable on my feet anyway. I later learned that he was wearing brass knuckles when he tried to discard it after the fight was over.
I totally get that mentally.
I don't know , but through my yrs of experiences, street fights is always dirty, that's why I always carry a small knife, just in case, n it kept me alive after all these night life yrs.
/facepalm told ws my main style originally but whomever trained you either didnt knownwyat they were doing or did you a major disservice by not training you fir the real world vs sparring/ contests etc
Tkd if used properly can be very effective but you cant learn it only with the mindset of sparring or those that learn it for movies only (I've worked with a bunch of them over the yrs and very few would last in a real fight despite "earning their bb" and using flashy moves for the camera only
A street fight is the real deal. If you get the advantage you have to use it. Don't risk your life to be fair and clean.
Haha are you Puerto Rican by chance?
Man this guy dropped so much wisdom!
The result of experience!!
Everything works and nothing works.
I really admire Jesse-s ability to constantly push himself outside if his comfort zone so he can keep learning. It is really humbling.
Learning is my comfort zone 😉
This was great from the first minute.
I was really impressed by Jesse's ability, and Mike's lack of ego in the exchanges; some instructors would be obsessed with not losing in any exchange, but Mike's focus was on instructing.
Agreed.
'The skillset for being a cop or a criminal are the same' wow truer words never been spoken 😅
getting beaten up has never looked like so much fun
The hat throw, then the camera diversion, was excellent. The training scenarios, and the way they played out actually felt real. A lot of demonstrations usually have a "master" who is never beaten and does all the cool variations, but we have two masters here who are just trying things with each other, with no predictable outcome, demonstrating the chaos of street fights.
Never a master, sometimes a teacher, always a student ☺
very true. there's never a surefire technique to win every situation. there's a human element and you both have a say on what happens. you have to be able to flow and be aware of all of your options as advantages. this was a great video that I'm sure opened a lot of people's eyes.@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse humility is the spice of life
I learned Bruce Lee's side kick where you raise your hand in the air like you are reaching for something on the top of his head. Then you explode with the sidekick while he is diverted for a half second.
@KARATEbyJesse beautifully said
If you listen closely, he is teaching awareness at soo many levels, be that step ahead of the criminal without underestimating
@The13thRonin😂
Much respect to both of you. Excellent attitude and thoughts. Thank you!
> The skillset for being a cop is the same skillset as being a criminal
Oops, said the quiet part out loud
"Know thy enemy and know thyself." Sun Tzu
It is in the cop's great interest to understand how criminals operate: he must understand how one might break into a house, that he might find the telltale signs of it. It is in the criminal's great interest to understand how cops operate: she must understand how cops search for the signs of break-ins, that she might conceal any telltale sign of it. A successful attack requires understanding of defense, just as a successful defense requires understanding of attack; at the limit, these skillsets are the same ☯ How one chooses to use these skills, however, makes all the difference in the world.
lol yea, because cops are criminals
@David-n4i6jthey're involved in gangstalking people among other things
Imagine not knowing this already
what I like about Mike is just how honest he is. he may not know everything there is to know, but his sincerity is both refreshing & entertaining.
Aside from my own desire my parents put me in Karate as a kid because we were in a rough neighborhood. So I had to learn both at the same time. I have to say that Karate REALLY gave me a huge edge but you have to know how to apply it in real situations and not just sparring or tournaments. I'm glad that Mike brought up the difficulty of doing things while someone can pummel your face. That is my biggest peeve when I hear people talk about fighting that haven't actually had to fight for their own safety before. You also can't see jack except a fist when you're getting hit in the face. People imagine fights like they're lookin through a camera or something instead of what you'll actually be seeing in a fight.
Wrestling teaches you the same thing to an extent. Not really in highschool cause there's little hand fighting, but definitely in college. Dudes hands are all in your face specifically to cover your eyes for a takedown. Or smothering you stuffing any attempt you could make.
Any martial training gives an edge over anyone without it. If an untrained person has to think about what they are doing then the trained person has an edge, and if the untrained person is not thinking then they are throwing a right hook, which gives the trained person an edge.
Being able to think calmly while in a real fight is the biggest thing IMO for the average person to pick up regardless of whatever style of martial arts they’re learning.
Same thing with every and all spinning techniques. You don't expect a foot to come flying from "behind the person". Cause that's what it feels like, the spin hide the actual kick or punch and now you suddenly just have something flying towards your face in 390 miles per hour and no time to react.
So true , I was watching an action movie with a few mates and the fight scene where the baddies were taking turns to fight the goodie . We all looked at each other thinking the same thing, it would be nice if that happened in real street fights, which we all had been in a few times.
Half of street fights is someone getting driving into a car or a telephone pole or tripping on a curb.
Good on this man for showing the truth of the matter. Love how Icy Mike has more than one weapon on him too.
You always have backups, for your backup weapon. I started laughing when he asked about weapons, because I knew what was coming.
I wonder if Icy Mike ever did ice?
@tomprice5496 😄 Probably not which is ironic.
I did kickboxing/combative for 14 years but now do Bjj (gi and no gi) for about 5-6 months now and this dude spoke more truth in this 16min video than any "self defense" or martial arts youtuber ive ever seen. Cops know whats up and ive worked with and trained with many who said the same thing this man did. I think im going to give @hard2hurt a follow and subscribe now, this is a no BS dude and i like that!
RUclips needs more uploads like this. Honest, no BS, no ego wank & reality based. That kind of training can help save lives. It can take many years to reach a high level of proficiency. But it may take many more to find a REALLY decent teacher. This ex cop is .
The fact that Mike even said "I was trying to show you but you're too powerful" says a lot. Man has no issues admitting he got overpowered in this "training" match. But Jesse also followed up with genuine interest in what Mike was teaching. Both had absolute respect for the other person.
@ScipoCelah that shouldnt be praised that should be the bare min.. when you normalizing praising basic respect .... respect becomes an after thought
The lil guy got all the big ideas and the big mouth but he keeps gettin beat real fast! 😂🤣💀
I loved what he said about the "just run" thing, I've always thought about the same, like should I just run away from the attackers and leave behind my slower friends or family to the scenario alone? No way!
Running away greatly reduces the possibility of death and in a pure survival scenario that is objectively one of if not the best thing to do. I repeat: the 100 bucks in your wallet is not worth the 1000 dollars somebody's gotta for over for your funeral
@dretchlord873 What about the 1000 dollars for your kid's funeral?
@dretchlord873 it's like you didn't read the comment before you replied
@dretchlord873you'd be surprised how many people can't even run for their life.
@diarmuidosullivan7391, You toss your kid at them as a distraction, then you run.
"Violence is violence" is a real truth. I learned martial arts as a kid and i rarely ended up in fights, and if i did i knew the rules of combat if thats what you want to call it. An example would be that if youre beat, you give up, which isnt something you know by nature. Also, you learn to carry yourself as someone as a person who know how to fight, which surprisingly leads to you getting into less fights.
Most people don't want to fight with people who know how to fight. It's not like hoodies are anime protagonists on mission to become best fighters by beating other best, or ancient death cult members who will try to attack you no matter what. They want to easily intimidate/mug/beat victim. If they see somebody looking like he knows how to fight and is trained they back off.
Martial arts skill is not a force field. And the end of the day intent beats skill. Martial arts rlly only work against low to mild intent and it depends how u use it.
@thomasgyebi8717 well, you better intend on living as much as the person trying to hurt you intends on killing you.
@JM.MEL_ maté that’s my point 😂 intent beats skill. If u know someone wants to kill u unless u ready to match there intent u need to avoid them
@JM.MEL_ Train with intent to kill but have enough restraint not to.
"The skill set for being cop or a criminal are the same. It just depends how you use it."
super like bro, first time i see a video that doesnt talk bs about actual street fights
How humble that guy is and he even cares for not breaking some bodys arm since he has no knife... That is highly professional ❤🎉
I am an MMA fighter who has learned boxing, Muay Thai, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I've read many comics about different combat styles, and even got into a few fights back when I was in school. While I was learning these martial arts, I often pondered the differences between street fighting and the arena, how to win by any means necessary, and how to select the most effective fighting techniques for street combat. I believe this video aligns with many of my thoughts. It's highly valuable!
no youre not
You may not walk into a fight with a weapon. But the world CAN be your weapon if you use it right.
Still waiting for the part where the black belt gets destroyed?
A little click bait I guess.
I love how they sparred twice and the rest of the video was just Jesse getting free self defense lessons and having an open mind. Love ur vids!
This is one of the best videos I've seen on real-life self defense, Would love to see a follow up collab between you too in different locations and scenarios
10:02 "Nothing works on the street." Worth watching the whole video for that one line.
Street fighting: The art of creative pain infliction and violent problem solving.
I love this video. Mike brings up about 10 teaching lessons in such a short time. The biggest of all is practice and let go of the ego.
Mike's mouth and brain are equally big
And perhaps the hardest? :)
Idk, he seems to have quite the ego.
His advice against self defense techniques is worth it's wait in gold. One wrong move and they're no longer in mugger mode, they're in kill mode.
This is one of the greatest breakdowns, if not the single greatest breakdown, I have ever seen & heard on real-to-life hand-to hand combat. Very comprehensive & practical.
Even when he’s being friendly, you can see it in Mike’s eyes that he’s no one to mess with.
"NO ONE HAS EVER BEEN TAUGHT THIS, JESSE!" - That was a gold moment.
hmm... it was like a single leg takedown and kotegaeshi together
Look up Tomiki Aikido Sumi Otoshi
@NYTomiki I'll pass
Jesse is always humble, respectful, and eager to learn - the attitude of a true martial artist
Real
Best self-defense video I've seen in a long time. Mike's voluminous experience as an officer and his martial arts training has taught him well and for Jesse it's a matter of taking the sometimes rigid form of karate techniques (and his considerable athleticism and skill through years of repetitive practice) and using them intelligently by changing his mindset about how to use them. Great stuff guys!
So this is where it was... I was looking for this video in hard2hurt channel.
Excelent video.
Just saw the seagal videos...
Great channel.
"Your ability to throw that kick far outstrips the ability of any of these yoho's out here to defend a kick" - love this point. My sensei always tells us to remember more often that not if you get into a fight the other person has not learned how to properly throw a punch or a kick and we can use that against them.
I always dread the day when the guy opposite, to my surprise starts off with a tornado kick.
@dssaee, I always dread the day they break into Capoeira. Too happy and friendly for me to stay angry.
@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 xD xD
_Sp4c3y_ lol
Spacey3000what does bro have against sensei? its the same effect as saying instructor, coach, teacher, or pretty much any other word of similar meaning
This is probably the best video I have seen of either of you. Nicely done.
I have never had to defend myself from serious violence, so I don't teach self-defence nor claim to teach it. I only teach what I know.
If I had to define self-defence, I would say it is: "The use of intelligence, emotion and physics to overcome violence."
For me, the points Mike makes in this video are exactly that.
Been training in martial arts for nearly 30 yrs. This is one of the most useful self defence vids I've seen. Reminiscent of Geoff Thompson material from the 90s.
exactly opposite here. I am a 90-100 kg ex-sprinter with real life experience of moves and this feels way more natural to me than practicing MMA
"Put on that white belt, beginner's mind" is great advice.
This was more believable than any "self defense expert" out there. Great video.
What was so good about this video was not the actual fighting (which was great and interesting) but the ways to change your thinking about threat. The whole "we don't protect ourselves because we don't want to be rude" was so true.
Video quality is insane. So dense, so well interviewed, the narrative is so well presented. Youre a brillant host!
This was absolutely beautiful and common sense as a way to engage in an unorganized and random real life setting.
This was for me by far the best realistic explanation to understand the street fight situation. I practice karate, but never really gave a thought about how actually there is no rule or referee in a street fight. I literally subscribed after watching this episode. Thank you, love to watch and learn more.
In a street fight, EVERYTHING is a weapon or hazard. Furniture, square edged surfaces, anything handheld or ropelike.. the door or window.. it all depends how far someone's willing to take it.
Awesome video. This guy's the real deal. Seen a street fight one guy against two idiots just looking to fight, he was just defending himself and prevent the two from surrounding him and he landed a perfect high head kick to one of the idiots, he was obviously well trained and a competitive fighter and the two idiots backed off pretty quick. I don't condone violence on the street but it was a thing of beauty.
Hands down one of the best explanations for and about self-defense and MMA especially for anyone not training a combat sport. This 16 minutes sums up the reality of combat sports and self-defense as succinctly possible. No fluff or BS.
jesse kicks are so refined he could survive most self defense scenario by just kicking his way out
"The skillset for a cop and a criminal it is the same". Indeed.
That was one of the best demonstrated and discussed practical application of self defense I have seen in a long time. No bravado, no ego, just straightforward wisdom. Great job.
Oh man, I absolutely love these collabs. This FightTube community is amazing, from Jesse to Mike to Seth to Kevin and so on. We always get so much out of every video they do together and what's awesome is you can tell that they do, too.
Told to run, trained to fight; thank you for recognizing the value and the reality.
Saw a guy get stabbed to death in China by a dude twice his size, was over in like 10 seconds. It was over some comment by the victim sitting with his friends drinking and talking shit and the attacker was a stocky guy sitting by himself that just walked over to him and started sticking him before anyone could react. Victim stood up and fell right down after, didn't even seem like he was aware he had been stabbed multiple times. You can't defend yourself from that except not talking shit to strangers or not go out drinking.
Yes. I saw a guy stabbed outside the nightclub where i worked. It was over very quickly and I gave up my job for safety.
Excellent advice - should be the Zeroth Law of Self Defence: don't talk shit about people and don't get drunk in public (or anywhere).
Like John Correia from active self protection says, stay away from going to stupid places, with stupid people at stupid times doing stupid things. The Big 4 S's.
so the mind blowing observation here is that there are attacks you can't defend against. brilliant
Or, you know, don’t sit still whilst a stranger twice your size who you smack-talked walks over and then does whatever tf he wants
I love how you're all friends and do these regular collabs now. Really top-notch stuff!
Let’s go, the ultimate collaborators
Glad to hear!!
Jesse definitely died in the ambulance in this one, great job
eye opener... Thanks for doing this drill with someone who has gone through a lot in his career.
Fantastic video. I love how a lot of what Mike touched on is that anyone trained extensively in a combat sport (martial art, wrestling, MMA) becomes intimately familiar with combat in the sport's context. Fighting within those rules, against opponents who understand that environment. Street fighting doesn't suddenly make those techniques invalid at all, but changes the environment and context adding so many other considerations, and if you are stuck with a narrow, sport specific mindset it will be a disadvantage.
15 year cop that worked in Stockton, CA area. The greatest advice I was given and I heard in the video is LISTEN to your instinct. That Spidey Sense is invaluable!!! Other things are WEAPONS OF OPPORTUNITY and last thing, there is NO SHAME in sprinting your ass out of danger!! Create distance baby...hundreds of yards of it!!
Is Stockton about as rough as its repute (i'm an ex Silicon Valley techie)?
I thought Jesse was so sweetly innocent as Mike displays an armory amount and variety of ironmongery