Yujin Nagasawa - What is Panpsychism?
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Panpsychism is the extreme claim that everything in the physical world-all subatomic particles-are in some sense ‘conscious’ or have a basic kind of ‘proto-consciousness’. Why are an increasing number of leading philosophers taking panpsychism seriously? Something must be up. Could it be doubt that the scientific project to explain consciousness has failed?
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Yujin Nagasawa is the Kingfisher College Chair of the Philosophy of Religion and Ethics, and Professor of Philosophy at the University of Oklahoma.
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It doesn't look as many little bits of consciousness, because each bit perceives individually. It's easy to prove by the case of people who got their brains split. Even if two parts of the same person starts to behave independently, neither part feels much of the difference. Each hemisphere works like it worked before but unable to coordinate their movements. These are still the same parts of the same person.
1:07 how did that "arrangement" from proto-conscious elements come to be is the question... because arrangement to fot a particular functionality requires a higher level of complexity than the one starting with (the proto consciousness) 🤔
Creating more unknowns without learning the basic one. Just because we don't know how matter acquire consciousness when it comes together, it doesn't mean other things(conciouss particles, conciouss Universe). Maybe this is the case and we just don't know how exactly it works. Assuming that the particles or the entire cosmos has consciousness is a stretch, but also I can not falsify.
time might be smooth, continuous?
present time may have awareness?
nested vortexes;
of infinite layers;
of conscious matter;
Dr. Donald Hoffman, Dr. Bernard Carr, Dr. Iain McGilchrist, and Dr. Rupert Sheldrake are among a growing body of scientists that also subscribe to the philosophy of #panpsychism rather than that of #physicalism.
Don't forget Philip Goff!
cosmic continuous consciousness transcends physical nature in panentheistic universe?
continuous cosmic consciousness has subjective feeling / experience? a subjective being or existence external to physical nature, in contrast to human being internal physical body?
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human awareness in the present portion of infinite time having continuous (cosmic) consciousness?
I love how hard they panned this panpsychism video. I only had one headphone on and could only hear half the convo🤣
You could have changed your audio settings to mono.
Panpsychism is a fascinating, deeply respectful concept. Though, how does his hypothesis differ from the hypothesis of God?
there is no need of a religion here... that's a huge difference.
Very obvious -- we know consciousness exist
@@pedade02 Cosmic Consciousness is part of God. No religion required.
God has nothing to do with religion.
A creator is the Creator, even if we don't know who or what he is .
Science can speculate and theists can speculate too
@@dongshengdi773Almighty Unicorn agrees.
To understand it you must also need to understand what it means to lose the concept of "self" and think of everything as one
What if the agency of life resides more in the process that continuously builds it than in the it that is being built.
Cosmic panpsychism/cosmopsychism suffers from the same problem in reverse (the decombination problem). Also, other problems that characterize monism or mereological problems like how can the whole be prior and more fundamental than the parts. It conflicts with basic common sense and intuition.
Panpsychism is an intriguing concept when you consider all living things show a similar disruption of function under the influence of general anesthetics.
Just adding to this, give Allison Hanson research papers on Hydras a peek and CBC theory is also great fun if you're into these type of things
This is derived from the Organic view of the Cosmos from Taoism. 🙏🏼😊
Consciousness being a first person experience, can never be verified. But Conscious behavior on the other hand is very possible. Panpsychism or Cosmic panpsychism or cosmic consciousness can all be behaviors. we can for example say that gravitational pull is possible because there is some level of consciousness in the objects. This is more of a framework to build complex conscious behavior.
The hard problem of consciousness it's hard to define. I was trying very hard to precisely name one thing about consciousness that can't be explained by physical interactions between neurons. But it still feels like there is a problem.
May I suggest that one such thing would be what we could call it's "ontological privateness". Physical interactions between neurons would be "ontologically public".
I think neuroscience not knowing how such privateness can self-evidently occur in some entities and apparently not occur in others is the hard problem of consciousness.
@@BLSFL_HAZE Still hard to define what ontological privateness means.
@XOPOIIIO True. Maybe it's so hard to define because, by its very nature, it can't be looked AT, because it can only be looked FROM.
Not sure I can get any closer with concepts. Not at this point, anyway.
He speaks of the higher mind only the mind receives our experiences
The conscious is the superficial part of the mind which is lighted, and below it lies the unconscious buried in the dark. Then below the unconscious lies the collective unconscious, and at the bottom lies the cosmic unconscious - which is the mind of the entire universe, which is the total mind, the universal mind. Remembrance of God or self-remembering happens at the level of the cosmic mind, which is the ultimate in consciousness. God or self is known when we become completely integrated - not only with our unconscious and collective minds, but also with the cosmic consciousness, which is of the highest.
Osho , from the book 'Krishna : The Man And His Philosophy '
If you really pay close attention to the visual experience it isn't uniform or smooth.
We are the multiverse we claim we can't find what exist is really sheer agreement the love it doesn't register that's the limits of the body when I end would time also no it doesn't exist
that I am is the onlything Im certain of...for now. the rest is ...fun n games
Oh nice. I'm a big believer in this. I think the double slit and entanglement kinda hint at panpsychism being real, too.
No. The double slit experiment is misunderstood.
Sometimes speculative nonsense has the tendency to come in layers, pilled up upon layers.
And sometimes on stilts.
Sometimes the assertion that something is nonsense is speculation from a point of incomprehension.
@@jay64j I didn’t make an assertion, I made an observation. Get your lexicons in order before trying to act pretentiously fresh, and become a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Refrain from making commentaries above your pay grade.
@@NothingMaster assertion, assertion 😅... or prove it was nonsense.
This is just religion with extra steps
Have you ever heard of Delores Cannon or Abraham Hicks 🤔🤫🤭
He seems to suggest that cosmic c0nsciousness is like a quantum scalar field.
Particles>Atoms>Molecules,>Organic >Molecules>Biological Cells>Neurons>Neuronal Networks....as you climb the ladder of nature we can say eventfulness or time aka Planck Time Increases. The devil is in the details or how do neuronal networks achieve such huge Planck Times which accompanies emergence?
Trying to put Zen into a philosophical argument.
Consciousness isn’t an intellectual construct.
Agreed, consciousness isn’t a concept or intellectual construct, in some way it’s fundamental
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Neurosience keep out how knows consciousness. And what about this video. It means nothing in terms consciousness definitions . Because what he show up about consciousness it is wortheless neurosience. Inconsistency with brains reality . Rambling. Absolutetly .
Air fried psychism is healthier
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An' he said: "I'm outa-site!"
He said, for a nominal service charge,
I could reach nervonna t'nite
If I was ready, willing 'n able
To pay him his regular fee
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And devote His Attention to me
But I said...
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How many consciousness do you have in your body? What if there's a roundworm in your gut?🪱
Is there no other consciousness in Zeus's body besides Zeus himself?🌌
💪🥷❤🙏☯️
"What is Panpsychism?"
It is not conscious.. it just seems to be conscious...
... because every tiniest particle of matter in this Universe is an extension of God's existence... this is what OMNIPRESENCE means.
.. and this is why NO SOUL can hide from the eyes of the Almighty Holy Spirit.
Yujin Nagasawa new fundamental and Absolute Law of Universal Conscious Nature: you can solve the problem of a big stupidity by unleashing a much bigger stupidity.
Yeah . . . and only stupids don't understand it because it requires a bit of intelligence.
What is Panpsychism?
1. It a fad that will pass.
2. A last attempt at staving off the steady march of physical-ism or more correctly super-naturalism. Dualisms, Idealism, Panpsychism comes and goes, but note that physicalism is a constant and marching forward steadily. Heck, all our modern societies inclusing my ability to write this comment using the wonderful technology of internet, is a fruit of physicalism. Show some grattitude :)
3. Posits something it needs to prove. Does not explain it.
4. Demands from science to explain what electron IS (opposed to what it does), and then refuses to answer what consciousness IS in the same way. Do you think that is fair?
5. Says fundamental particles are "proto" conscious - without saying what that means, and then goes on to say that when many fundamental particles come together in a special configuration the "proto"-consciousness of each some how adds up and gives human like consciousnes - but turns around and refuses to accept the same explanation of the mechanism when given by physicalists. Do you think that is fair? What is good for the goose should be good for the gander, No?
Your first point is patently false. It's an ancient concept that is still around; the opposite of a fad.
The rest of your comment is just word salad.
@@elgatofelix8917 Thanks.
Physicalists do not know how brain activity could create the actual conscious experience. They just describe brain activity then claim that it does.
PAN PSYCHOS: Psychos EVERYWHERE.
Lol no
I think the Christians might be right…
I think the Christians might be wrong...
@@Akira-jd2zr Sounds like an emotional problem.
@@ghostgate82 You say the Christians might be right and I say they might be wrong and I'm the one with an emotional problem? What nonsense...
What rational justification can you provide for anyone to conclude that some omnipotent being exists? Otherwise, without rational justification then, by definition such beliefs are irrational...
@@Akira-jd2zr Because hierarchies and fractals exist. You’re essentially saying humans are the top of the Universal food chain. How arrogant. Atheists lack the organ to sense God. You’re spiritually handicapped, bro.
@@ghostgate82 That's your go-to argument? Firstly the top of the food chain is the most precarious place to be, they go extinct first. But anyway we are where we are, making stuff up purely to avoid arrogance is false modesty on the one hand, and presumptuous to assume the authority to invent what exists on the other. There, I can be an arse when I want to as well. 😊
In terms of sensing god, sure, some people genuinely seem to have this imperative feeling that there is or must be a divine presence. I don't have that, never have. I grew up in a religious household going to church and when I found out many of the adults actually really believed this stuff it was a bit of a shock, at quite a young age. I understand some people do have these experiences or feelings, and others don't. Just the way it is I suppose.
Do you want to know if the Quran was memorized? I don't believe the Quran was memorized. Do you want to know if muslims lied to you?. I want proof that the Quran was memorized. Islam is dead and you can bury the lie. What would be the future of atheism if atheists continue to refuse to ask for evidence that the Quran was memorized? To not waste this loving poem I say atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Thank you.
Don’t forget that consciousness is itself an idea. Panpsychism isn’t science, it’s endless word salad, led by Philip Chopra.
Wow sounds like you have it all figured out then huh? You're scientifically certain panpsychism isn't a possibility?
@@Ludawig What’s the evidence for panpsychism?