WTF is a Filibuster? And Should We…Nuke It? | The Couch Report
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- One of the most important rules governing American life isn’t a law, or a Constitutional amendment. It’s a wonky little parliamentary procedure called the filibuster. And it’s one of Washington’s favorite ways to turn campaign promises into broken dreams.
Democrats are mulling plans to reform the filibuster and maybe even someday kill it altogether - which would make big changes very possible. Maybe even too possible.
VICE News’s Greg Walters explains… from his couch.
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It's not just forcing them to talk, it's forcing them to take a position. What I'm tired of is no one taking accountability for a NO
@Tobias Casey InstaPortal is scam.... you'd have to be a bit stupid to believe it
You prolly dont care at all but does someone know a way to log back into an instagram account??
I was dumb forgot my password. I would love any help you can give me.
@Fernando Joseph Instablaster ;)
I honestly need to become a senator because they don't do sh!t but get rich.
Just watch and invest with Nancy Pelosi's husband....seriously. It is/isn't insider trading
@@YouMockMe How do you track his personal investments?
Lobbying, search it up. It’s just legal corruption
@@Mac90820 it’s was national news that he bought Tesla stock a week before Biden signed the initiative that all government vehicles are to be electric
I was the 69th like...sweet!
"The legislative filibuster is the most important distinction between the Senate and the House. Without the 60-vote threshold for legislation, the Senate becomes a majoritarian institution, just like the House. No senator would like to see that happen. So let's find a way to further protect the 60-vote rule for legislation."
Said by current Democratic leader, Senator Chuck Schumer April 2017.
The funny thing is, that shouldnt be the most important distinction between the two chambers. The important distinction should be how much say each state has in each chamber of Congress
Americas politics is just trench warfare at this point.
The only solution is introduction to a multi party system as seen in europe, but republicans and democrats dont want to be first sharing voters resulting in a landslide for the other party.
I cant think of a realistic way to solve this problem and that sucks
I love the couch in front of the couch portrait.
professional-fillibusters are like pro-gamers, they all wear diapers!
Good one
Yeah let's get rid of one of the most important check and balance of our constitution. It's supposed to be hard to "get stuff done". Government constantly passes laws that are filled with corrupt handouts, secret agendas, and poison pills. What's wrong with a majority of senators having to sign off on a bill? What's wrong with having MORE time and MORE debate and MORE input from constituents?
So American paying so much taxes just to have their politician talking about ham 🤣🤣
Bring it back. Lol, I would love to see someone talk for 12hrs about why people don’t need healthcare.
Much better than people not having to do anything, I’d much rather have people work for a fillibuster than do absolutely nothing. And I’m on board with getting rid of it but Joe manchin said he wouldn’t be in favor of doing so.
That's the funny thing about the filibuster, you don't have to talk about the bill at all. You just have to talk, as looking as you are at the podium, they can't make you leave
@@christianchiles588 is because he is a sleeper cell agent for the republicans. They do it all the time.
We don't want to pay for YOUR healthcare
@@shainewinter8264 Hey Shaine, here’s the problem… you are already paying for 1 in 3 American’s socialized health insurance through Medicaid and Medicare… might as well help work to get access as well.
wtf are these titles
click bait
Make this thread great now
Should we nuke it..the title 🤣🤣
The filibuster must stay as a defense against single party rule. We need to find compromise any one party being able to pass bills along just because they have just over half the seats isn't compromise.
There is no rational or coherent argument to save the filibuster. It's either demolish the filibuster or accept that only a Republican-led Congress and Republican president will ever pass legislation. And Republicans have demonstrated that -- outside of massive tax cuts for the wealthy -- they have zero interest in ever passing anything or addressing the country's urgent needs.
Republicans have made clear they simply aren't interested in joining Democrats to pass anything -- even issues/policies they and their voters support -- if there is a Democratic president who will sign the bill and get any semblance of credit. They don't care how badly the legislation is needed or how much damage will be done to the country. There is not a single scenario where Republicans are willing to be bipartisan, for any reason.
The concerns that junking the filibuster would allow Republicans to pass all these terrible bills once they're in the majority is ridiculous. Republicans love campaigning on stuff like banning abortion, gutting health care and giving every teacher a gun because they know it's stuff they will never have to actually vote for and that it will never, ever happen.
These policies are insanely unpopular outside of the far-right base, and any Republicans who passed them would have to face the wrath of outraged voters. Thanks to the filibuster, they get to campaign on these things with the knowledge they'll never have to actually do them and be held accountable for them.
The stuff Democrats want to do -- and are actually interested in doing -- is stuff like expanding health care, raising the minimum wage, supporting the middle class. This is all incredibly popular in the country and people would be much more likely to keep voting Democrat once they saw the benefits of Washington actually doing things to address the problems in their lives.
Getting rid of the filibuster is the worst of all worlds for Republicans: Democrats could pass their popular policies and benefit politically, while Republicans would no longer have any excuses to avoid voting on their unpopular policies and would be forced to face a nation of outraged voters the next election. There is no question that Republicans desperately want to keep campaigning on that stuff and not be forced to actually do it and face the consequences for doing it.
You can't rationalize with people or a party who have just plain lost their minds ... example January 6th , 2021
So go ahead , explain to everybody just HOW you rationalize with people or a party , like that?
@Brian McCrimmon: "The filibuster must stay as a defense against single party rule." We already have single-party rule today: Republicans. Ironically, it's because of the continued existence of the filibuster.
Regardless of which party holds the majority and White House, Republicans are the single party essentially ruling all of Washington. Thanks to Republicans' abuse of the filibuster and blanket, nearly unanimous partisan opposition to the Dems, they are able to ensure that only a Republican president and Republican-led Congress can pass legislation of any importance.
Democrats, probably naively, have demonstrated they will still support and vote for things proposed by Republicans, especially if it's something that is desperately needed. Unlike Republicans, they aren't willing to throw the country under the bus simply to deny the other party any political victories.
Republicans, meanwhile, block absolutely everything proposed and supported by Democrats -- even if it's something they support and and even if it's uncontroversial and overwhelmingly called for, needed and supported by the American people.
Ironically, the only way to actually get bipartisan legislation is to eliminate the filibuster. Senators would be much more motivated to work together and compromise if the threshold for passage (a simple majority) was actually attainable and legislation stood an actual chance of passing.
The filibuster's 60 percent threshold is impossible to cross (thanks to overwhelmingly Republican opposition to all Dems), so no one even bothers talking with the other side or even attempts to negotiate. If nothing is ever able to pass, then proposing legislation is more about public relations, riling the base and attacking the other side than it is about addressing issues and enacting policy. It literally can't be anything else.
If it's clear that legislation is never going to pass anyway, Senators feel like they might as well stick to their own side use the debate over the legislation to score political points. It's not like you're able to do anything else.
Polling officials can give you water, or your friend, a delivery driver, someone else in line......just not political activists
Electing the most qualified officials is the best way to counter Filibuster
They're all crooks
yeah that's not worked for the entire time the government has existed... how would that work now?
“Okay ,well We’re all hungry we’re gunna get to our hot plates soon enough”
Silly Vice. McConnell's nickname is "The Turtle"
Why you go and insult turtles like that
It’s comrade Moscow Mitch
“Cocaine Mitch!!!” Baws
Foreskin McConnell
Really? I always knew him as cocaine Mitch... but that's from the 90s/early 2000s era. With a little help from his careless brother😉
End two-party system and capitalism.
So, the Filibuster was used to help slavery, and it is racist. This is what I understood from this.
Other developed democracies don’t have whiplash, simply because it’s unpopular to repeal popular legislation. The elected party should be forced to govern. If Republicans want to pass all that unpopular legislation, have at it. Good luck getting re-elected after banning abortion, cutting social security, and making mass shootings worse. That’s why Republicans love the filibuster: they can rattle their sabers about cultural issues, but always use the filibuster as the reason why they couldn’t ACTUALLY pass legislation that would see them lose elections.
2004
- The President: George W. Bush
- The Senate: 55 Republicans (out of 100 seats)
- The House of Representatives: 232 Republicans (out of 435 seats)
Do you still want to abolish the filibuster?
Get rid of career politicians on both sides
And lobbyists
I agree
vice go back to reporting actual news instead of opinion pieces, the real life in the trenches stuff is what everyone loved
There's a ton of racist bigoted biased morons in the world now days, so may be hard. I've watched George Floyds trial the last three days and there has been not one witness to point at anything beside homicide/murder. But man some of these comments on news channels debates are so sickening with pure ignorance due to disillusion and cognitive dissonance.
Those are absolutely necessary to prevent paperclipping
You can't dump a 500plus page bill the night before a vote and be all this is it.
Take it from a Canadian.
Absolutely necessary.
Guy tries so hard to convince people that all bills are good for Americans.
"Maybe" a 2 party system is garbage, just as it is in GB or australia.
we don't have a 2 party system in Australia what are you on about?
@@joshgee8714 why are the same 2 corporate bought shitstains in power all the time then?
@@daben7145 Probably because that's what the people only vote for or only heard about it in the media. Same thing jn the UK but we always know that the liberal democrats will get the third place all the time so you can say that the UK has always mention at least three parties, labour, conservative and liber democrats although in the UK we don't exclusively have two parties.
People: we need a decent healthcare bill
Politcians: ya like ham and cheese?
Yawa
What is yawa or what ever 🤔
You still need all three levels of gov to pass the bills, so...
Seems like it also prevents a majority forcing a minority to have to follow a majority set of rules or even a cultural path. one example was a majority of people did not want a minority of people to be able to vote. Now it seems they want to vote for them in a lot of ways.
one-hundred and twenty years ago - things were way different in the united states.
120 years ago is when the House of Representatives got rid of their filibuster power... and America didn't explode.
@@stevechance150 that was before Democrats started pushing for authoritarian laws like gun control and red flag laws
@@matthewmorel3758 I don't know what the answer is, but doing absolutely nothing doesn't seem to be changing anything at all. Maybe David Cross is right.
By getting rid of the Filibuster, Democrats could instantly grant themselves an extra 4 million voters over republicans, and ensure senate majority for time eternal.
So yeah... getting rid of the Filibuster may well be worth it for them.
Or...you know...Republicans could start taking positions that were actually popular, instead of being a party that caters exclusively to the old, white, Christian, rural vote that is disappearing. If they were forced to compete on even footing, they might actually have to become a party with sane political positions on economics, immigration, and race. Granted, it would still be a center-right party, but wouldn’t be almost neo-fascist, aligned as it is currently with authoritarian parties in Hungary and Turkey.🤷🏻♀️
Haha funny cause Latin Americans share a different view & meaning to filibuster aka US imperialism. Something which is still affects most of us until today thx Uncle Sam
Your welcome, now get back to your maquilla and make us more phones
@@ButtBanginTranny that would be China not us, why don’t u get on ship & go to Europe u got no ties to this land after all no connection what so ever just another lost white soul in a foreign land, be thankful you’re mayflower made it here safely & my romans ancestors didn’t kill yours Anglo Caucasian
@· Faust · u sound so ignorant my ancestors are Roman & Native American like most Latinos I’m of mixed ancestry, they walked here willingly they weren’t running away from any famine or kings
@· Faust · u sound so ignorant my ancestors are Roman & Native American like most Latinos I’m of mixed ancestry, they walked here willingly they weren’t running away from any famine or kings
Vice selectively lying about the Georgia Voter Bill saying people can't hand out water is "GREAT" journalism. Keep it up Vice.
That’s true it’s illegal to hand out food in water. Yet this bill is only gonna increase black turnout and shift GA even further Democratic.
The longest filibuster in congress by one person was by South Carolina democrat Strom Thurmond.
The record was set when he filibustered the civil rights act of 1957 for 24 hours and 18 minutes.
The record for longest filibuster of all time was the democrats filibustering the civil rights act of 1964 for 75 days.
Democrats, denying African Americans equal rights since the 1830’s.
Removing the filibuster will open the floor to more partys
o! Really? Interesting! Would You like to explain? In my country, Poland, have around 10 parties and I always wondered where is Central Party in USA.
I think you’re joking honestly but if you’re not yikers. It will lead to a single ruling party... democrats
Still like my favorite show star trek.
Amazing what efforts racists will go to to block progress!!
How many people really think the “ 120 years ago” was actually a joke? Let’s discuss...
F Mitch and Lindsey btw
Oh, and Georgia’s governor
When i watch this i become so happy that i don't live in the usa
You don't know how great it is to live here until you do.
I can't wait to leave the USA
@@gwyneth2869 good luck
@@gwyneth2869 what's stopping you ? Go please , you'll come back
@@Drpanda533 it is great if you have alot of money
If we properly use the other checks and balances we wouldn’t need the filibuster to act as one🤷♂️
The problem is not the filibuster. It's the democracy.
America is done
racist holdover from another time in the US - Manchin would let it happen and it sickening. Same with the parliamentary ....
The filibuster isn’t a racist relic. It is a anti-change relic. It was just used during segregation.
The usa's political system is so severely undermined by what amounts to technical shenanigans at every level, from both parties. It's fucked.
You know your in good hands when you elected leaders talk about Green Eggs and Ham.
Let's remove everything that stands in our way.
There's a ton of racist bigoted biased morons in the world now days, so may be hard. I've watched George Floyds trial the last three days and there has been not one witness to point at anything beside homicide/murder. But man some of these comments on news channels debates are so sickening with pure ignorance due to disillusion and cognitive dissonance.
@@MerkleAkrunphleuphle With the current social political climate, expert witness or not, it's highly unlikely for anyone to georpadize their future, life, work and family by swimming against the tide. Especially concerning a sensitive topic like the George Floyd trial.
PS. My comment was sarcastic. Removing everything in your way is how despots think. I should know, I live in a dictatorship.
@@MerkleAkrunphleuphle What does that have to with this video?
Like Daddy Diesel said, what does this have to do with the video?
Mitch McConnell aka the fence post turtle
there is no compromising with traitors. you let traitors segregate, and then you vassal(hedgenom) them in a civil war.
My dog drops big greasy piles of cruz in the grass after I feed him.
How many years has the House of Representatives operated without the option to Filibuster?
this would work great now with modern media
in the old days the public would have been none the wiser that a senator was just wasting people's time... since he 70s and the rise of TV they stopped having to do it
I'm so tired of American politics
I don’t think our system of government is the absolute worst, but yeah, it could use some adjustments.
What an overly casual stupid title
Upper houses of a parliament are contentious those examples are absurd and it happens here in Ireland and around the world
I love the people hate watching Vice and leaving comments 😂
YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CARRY A NON CONCEALED HANDGUN ANYWHERE IN AMERICA
Let's not get rid of it?
They need to change it back to what it was a talking filibuster
Getting rid of the filibuster is a bad idea and every president has fought to keep it one way or another. It should not change now.
Sad
I love how the GOP complains that the government takes too long to get anything accomplished, yet support the filibuster; something that serves no purpose other than to delay government action.
It's meant to stop one party from just jamming all their bills in when they have a simple majority I bet you wouldn't be so for it if Republicans were in control and trying to nuke it so they could do whatever they want because the have just 1 more senator.
@@oscararroyo9798 I think the problem right now is that congress is so divided that the GOP will use it to block anything the Dems want to do, and the Dems will use it to block anything the GOP wants to do if they win enough seats in 2022. Congress will just turn into a stagnant branch where no problems ever get solved.
Y’all saying carrying a handgun anywhere in America is a bad thing
Every time i learn more about american politics it gets even more weird and its just about not giving in.
It's always been like that since the beginning
Try it sometime.
Not always about getting your way.
Let's hope that the ever compromising reasonable doubt of the filibuster prevails over the corruption of one party alliances, and brings out the best good as we busy ourselves with our highest purposes. Or wonder about the purpose of the Senate, or the likelihood that the very person that could not get their way, or find solutions that more people agree with, within a wider group majority, would then go and try to undermine the very purpose of the Senate by getting rid of the fillibuster.
There is no rational or coherent argument to save the filibuster. It's either demolish the filibuster or accept that only a Republican-led Congress and Republican president will ever pass legislation. And Republicans have demonstrated that -- outside of massive tax cuts for the wealthy -- they have zero interest in ever passing anything or addressing the country's urgent needs.
Republicans have made clear they simply aren't interested in joining Democrats to pass anything -- even issues/policies they and their voters support -- if there is a Democratic president who will sign the bill and get any semblance of credit. They don't care how badly the legislation is needed or how much damage will be done to the country. There is not a single scenario where Republicans are willing to be bipartisan, for any reason.
The concerns that junking the filibuster would allow Republicans to pass all these terrible bills once they're in the majority is ridiculous. Republicans love campaigning on stuff like banning abortion, gutting health care and giving every teacher a gun because they know it's stuff they will never have to actually vote for and that it will never, ever happen.
These policies are insanely unpopular outside of the far-right base, and any Republicans who passed them would have to face the wrath of outraged voters. Thanks to the filibuster, they get to campaign on these things with the knowledge they'll never have to actually do them and be held accountable for them.
The stuff Democrats want to do -- and are actually interested in doing -- is stuff like expanding health care, raising the minimum wage, supporting the middle class. This is all incredibly popular in the country and people would be much more likely to keep voting Democrat once they saw the benefits of Washington actually doing things to address the problems in their lives.
Getting rid of the filibuster is the worst of all worlds for Republicans: Democrats could pass their popular policies and benefit politically, while Republicans would no longer have any excuses to avoid voting on their unpopular policies and would be forced to face a nation of outraged voters the next election. There is no question that Republicans desperately want to keep campaigning on that stuff and not be forced to actually do it and face the consequences for doing it.
@@TheScumAlsoRises I think people under 30 shouldn't have assualt rifles or automatic weapons though. And I think that would help lower the murder rate by alot. And avoid the back and forth rebuilding of industries. With horrible ideas that go through more easily. And... repent the Vritra, the great serpent from time to time, cuz they often have nothing better to do but cause trouble, so you have to get them to have fun and live a little. And not get set in idealistic ways too much, that lead to mass hysteria from many different avenues or perspectives. And also be careful of those little bone splinters in ground beef sometimes as well, as it can be annoying at least. Although I mostly just skimmed over what you wrote, some of the second thought videos aren't all that bad.
No wonder all the republicans think the democrats rigged the vote, even though it's next to impossible to do though.
We live in a nice country, although it can also be nice to encourage some homeless shelter projects and things every once in awhile in places that need them, not that an idea like that could ever be allowed to be spoken in some conservative groups. It works if you work it, as alot of the time, there's usually plenty of matters occupying older people's minds, rather than day dreaming we can often do when we're younger; and acting in hysteric ways on both sides of the fence. As alot of people can like the feeling of being associated with a group fighting for something, looking for someone to idolize, so they don't have to come up with ideas themselves. And we even get tax refunds sometimes. And hopefully people become even more reasonable rather than less reasonable and logical over time.
How much longer do we have to wait for turtle McConnell to age out of congress?
Definitely a “couch report”
How do we stand for this constant bs?
Filibuster.... how Americanly democratic.
Americans- can we have good healthcare?
Senate- I do not like green eggs and ham
I’m all for the Second amendment and there is nothing wrong with law abiding citizens carrying a hand gun as long as they have proper training
Korean subtitles? Wtf?
Annnnnnnnnnnd let republicans do whatever they want if they get the presidency. Can the left please think past 1 election cycle for once. Think maybe...4 years in advance???
Filibuster was a weapon for the people in ancient roman legislation
American politics is so fucking depressing
Only in America I guess
I’m so glad vice converted to children’s content
We either need a one party system or a multi party system because the 2 party system sucks.
The short answer is obliterate the filibuster completely but when you have Joe Manchins and Kyrsten Sinemas it’s short of impossible because they are Republicans on the Democratic side.
That goes both ways Mitt Romney others
So is Vice a kids' channel now, or? Even if the information is good, the videos are getting unwatchable.
I love the couch report it’s so wholesome
No we don’t need one weird ass party running everything
Fullabuster full of ....
Custard
YES. The correct answer is yes.
You are clueless
Well tank God TRUMP never start a middle East war.
Just get rid of the virtual option.
That wasn't a joke, Biden's a joke.
On a scale of falsified vice Cambodian genocide victim photoshop smiles and vs their original still images, does vice' opinion on this matter mean anything?
No leave the dam fillabuster alone!!!
The fact that we have two sides fighting is the problem
So deep. So profound.
GRRRR!!! This is so biased! Where is central point of view in USA?!?
Sorry anti gun VICE - It SHOULD be legal to carry concealed everywhere
He didn't give an opinion... just stated the platform identity
This just proves how stupid or inefficient democracy is
So you want a dictatorship
A Totalitarian States
Where are your ideas don't matter
@@KDH-br6hy not really there gotta be a better system. I think out of all systems we have in place democracy is the best to handle modern countries; however, it is really inefficient and kind of stupid as we can witness the American political climate. I am saying there gotta be a proper research to find a new system of government
The "pendulum" wouldn't swing back if after ending the filibuster they removed the electoral college and gerrymandering.
Lets hope.
Yes it would. Politics and people eb and flow.
RIP Philip
Great piece vice not to biased finallly
Lol is this sarcasm? Unbiased? LOL
@@odeeo3378 not this one compared to some of the other videos they post
the american answer to everything. fucking titles.. bottom of "journalism"
Murder: when is it ok?
Vice: politics...
Then January 6th ok then ?
The fillabuster is another form of procrastination.
This is the fucking Grand Prix of politics
Here is a better idea have the upper house be able to reject a bill three times and after that it becomes law
Make it illegal to carry a gun i guess the gun fights I've been avoiding will become a reality I'm not giving up my property or leaving my kids to be slaves
It's undemocratic