Cobrak couldn't get one chaos bolt to connect meanwhile cartoonz is throwing out 56k frost/fire bolt & ice lance constantly :p Cobrak almost won without casting more than like 10 incinerate and no chaos bolt hits, the real winner imo.
Hotted you really gonna talk about self heals? our self heals are two cooldowns combine that are both 2 minutes. You do 75% of our selfheals THE WHOLE FIGHT ENDLESSLY, warlock self heals are like 1/12 of druids.
***** Evocation only doesn't have a CD if you take Invocation, which is kinda bad. Plus, if you take Invocation, the Glyph of Evoke heals for a LOT less.
Have you played a Mage? Seriously. the only CCs we have that isn't used to shatter for burst are Poly and Counterspell. You can spec into a Silence and Fire has Dragon's Breath and Combustion, too. As for survivability? We have Temporal Shield/Ice Barrier/Flameglow, Incanter's Ward, Ice Block and Cold Snap/Cauterize. You can also waste glyph slots on the not-very-good Evocation and Spellsteal heals. The root effects of Pet Freeze, Frost Nova and Ring of Frost/Frostjaw/Ice Ward are bonuses. Those spells are primarily used to land damage, especially for Fire. Baseline, Locks have Fear, Howl of Terror, Pet CCs, and can Talent into Demonic Breath. Mortal Coil (which is a heal, too) or Shadowfury and Blood Horror or an extra trinket. Now, sustain wise, Destro locks have Healthstone, Ember Tap (with glyphs for both) Dark Regen (which increases incoming healing)/Soul Leech, Spirit Link/Sacrificial Pact/Dark Bargain and the glyph of Siphon Life. Locks have a LOT more CC, sustain and survivability than mages of any spec. But Mages (in general) have more burst. all of that Aside, I think Cob played much better than Cartoonz.
cartoonz is survivin well enough mage can sheep u to full health then 100p u there surviviability is fine squishy yes but thats why they have immunity spells and a bubble and constant snares/slows
John Mar Panganiban It was in a duel, and Soda would still destroy him, Swifty sucks nowadays, i mean he's 1500 on US, how low can you get. And yeah, he plays for fun, but if he was good he would still have higher rating.
Mr Swifty, I know that you are a popular guy and no doubt get tonnes of messages daily, but I want to say this anyway. I think you are a fantastic guy, never before have I seen someone who respects their subscribers and provides such good content as you. Unlike many other RUclipsrs you actually reach out to your fans and thank them, and that earns you my utmost respect. I wish more people would follow in your footsteps because it would make RUclips a better place. Even if you never see this, I had to let you know :) keep it up! I hope you have a great day, cheers man.
In the second match Cobrak tanked the orb for some reason, and in the last match looks like he panicked and overhealed himself, could've won both times. Well played by him anyways.
unbalanced? IMO classes and specs got defined a lot more. YES you cant 1v1 like you used to in mop but thats not a bad thing, Also is far from unbalanced compared to other exps.
Legion is beyond unbalanced what are you talking about? Legion is more broken than any other expansion inturn towards duels. Your entire argument and statement is invalid. PvP in Legion is terrible.
PvP should never been balanced around 1v1 duels... if u cant understand that simple concept then u are just clueless. just because before you could 1v1 with most of the specs doesnt mean was a good thing. so please learn to read.
Hey swifty, I want to see cartoonz play a warlock vs cobrak and see how skilled he actually is when he can't just instant freecast every spell. And you know mages you know its true they've always been op and now even more faceroll, never ending instants.
3 fears, a stun,pet cc, 2 REDICULOUS self heals.....yeah warlocks are such skill............there is no hard class to play in wow anymore its all about forcing CD's you fucking puppet.
more skill becuase there is 2 MORE heals than a mage? or how bout 2 immunity buttons...no class in wow takes skill anymore is the point, yes warlocks have more buttons to press ' also more heals and immunities than any other class ' if thats what you think skill is..
rofl the skill cap of a mage is higher then a lock, and a lock only has to hit 3 buttons to burst and put the whole other team at 30% plus they make sure that the healer doesn't cleanse so all in all locks are very good or "op"
He is bad but fortunately World of Warcraft puts much more weight on Luck through all its % chance based plays like proccing Fingers and Proccing BrainFreezes. People think mages are broken but when you understand even simple math you see that any mage that deals enough damage to stay relevant is just getting lucky proc strings
Ok at 8:15-or 8:20, how the fuck can he run and cast chaos bolt? Edit: and after that runs while casting Immolate also...I do Not know what this shit is, I do know its not legit WoW realm.
Since the begining of MoP till 5.4 (I think?), Kil'Jaden's Cunning was actually a passive that made the warlock be able to cast and channel spells while moving. So yes, it is a legit WoW realm.
Fire breath? Did you mean the dragon's breath? Since frost mages don't have it. And he did block and interupt a lot of CBs...idc for either of those players just trying to see what can be done better vs locks as a mage.
Swifty I have one question, you say that liking the video realy helps you, but you just disable it on almost every video, so how are we supposed to do so?
Why do you guys bother bitching about who's better when clearly Cartoonz and Cobrak are friends? They've got numerous videos of playing together or playing vs eachother. Also go check Cobrak's PoV of Legends of the Arena duels to understand what I am on about for starters.
Swifty its great to see you going strong for so long. Big fan. I have played with / know hotted in game and on twitch and perhaps one day I will guest in some videos with yas ^_^
Once again, Cartoonz prooves he's still among the top mages, might even still be the best. He's not bad, i'd like to see any of you do what Cobrak did twice. - Proud mage.
This kind of tournament should not be a place for internet trolls to say things like 'Cobrak is bad' or 'Cartoonz is bad'. People have a hard time realizing that each class is very individual, as well as each spec. Cartoonz is a badass mage and Cobrak is a badass warlock and given certain instances, one class has an advantage over the other (Like when Cobrak teleported upstairs to juke Cartoonz in Blades Edge or when they got maps that gave Cartoonz a lot of free cast like in ruins of lordaeron). In logic, skill vs another player should not be based upon who gets the kill, especially if it's 2 different classes --- even if the one that emerges with the killing blow is USUALLY obvious. It should be based on how they individually react to certain instances. Each class has a cooldown on a lot of abilities which gives a limit on what each class can do and how much they do it when the time arrives. By no means is PVP balanced in the slightest which gives no right to any 1 sided statement. With so many differences in how different classes/people can set up their character to be supreme in a specific 1v1 scenario (reforges, gems, enchants, professions, talents, glyphs, picking this piece over that, EVEN THE ENVIRONMENT) there really shouldn't be anyone bitching about anything. Not to mention again that some classes are just stronger than others in general. In ALL cases, it's not about the kill, it's about what you did to strategically get your ass kicked. This comment is not to glorify Cobrak or Cartoonz, it is to bring light to the ignorant comment posters. They both played to the best of their ability. I would like to see Cobrak and Cartoonz do some games together, whether that be in 2s, 3s, or 5s and I really hope the making of this video didn't make any of the players bitter at each other, that would be kinda lame.
Hey Swifty. i have been watching you for awhile now. I have been playing wow since wrath and i have always played pve until now. Your videos have inspired me to pvp and on the realm darkspear with my buddys. Just want to let you know keep up the great work. Maybe ill see you in a bg or arena sometime.
Mages are broken and faceroll, every time Cobrak puts in extreme skill to earn his chaos bolt. Mage just iceblock, and spam instants, warlock has to cast, mage all instants.
![Cobrak 17 [ORIGINAL AUDIO]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/J7C29JaDTOM/mqdefault.jpg)
Cobrak couldn't get one chaos bolt to connect meanwhile cartoonz is throwing out 56k frost/fire bolt & ice lance constantly :p Cobrak almost won without casting more than like 10 incinerate and no chaos bolt hits, the real winner imo.
I miss when Warlocks could cast almost anything while moving...
talent lol 90
I miss when warlocks dmg came from imoolate and not chaos bolt
I miss when warlock was not destroyed by the stupid Legion expansion!
I miss people complained how EverQuest was was better and u would play warlock in wow instead
I miss my dad, he never came back with that pack of cigs.
Absolute PvP peak. All classes felt different, fun and unique. Look what we have now, embarressing...
4 years later, we got it even worse now
@@zsoltlang2144 yep bro.........
such an awesome duel... both played perfectly
Hotted you really gonna talk about self heals? our self heals are two cooldowns combine that are both 2 minutes.
You do 75% of our selfheals THE WHOLE FIGHT ENDLESSLY, warlock self heals are like 1/12 of druids.
True story
***** Evocation only doesn't have a CD if you take Invocation, which is kinda bad.
Plus, if you take Invocation, the Glyph of Evoke heals for a LOT less.
Have you played a Mage? Seriously. the only CCs we have that isn't used to shatter for burst are Poly and Counterspell. You can spec into a Silence and Fire has Dragon's Breath and Combustion, too. As for survivability? We have Temporal Shield/Ice Barrier/Flameglow, Incanter's Ward, Ice Block and Cold Snap/Cauterize. You can also waste glyph slots on the not-very-good Evocation and Spellsteal heals. The root effects of Pet Freeze, Frost Nova and Ring of Frost/Frostjaw/Ice Ward are bonuses. Those spells are primarily used to land damage, especially for Fire.
Baseline, Locks have Fear, Howl of Terror, Pet CCs, and can Talent into Demonic Breath. Mortal Coil (which is a heal, too) or Shadowfury and Blood Horror or an extra trinket. Now, sustain wise, Destro locks have Healthstone, Ember Tap (with glyphs for both) Dark Regen (which increases incoming healing)/Soul Leech, Spirit Link/Sacrificial Pact/Dark Bargain and the glyph of Siphon Life.
Locks have a LOT more CC, sustain and survivability than mages of any spec. But Mages (in general) have more burst.
all of that Aside, I think Cob played much better than Cartoonz.
cartoonz is survivin well enough mage can sheep u to full health then 100p u there surviviability is fine squishy yes but thats why they have immunity spells and a bubble and constant snares/slows
I WANNA SEE SWIFTY VS SODA!
it has happened, soda literally destroyed him
Joey Bartholomew
Soda is a undershit... Please don't write it again, it's hurting my eyes
joey it wans't happened at arena, it was happened at bg. lol
John Mar Panganiban
It was in a duel, and Soda would still destroy him, Swifty sucks nowadays, i mean he's 1500 on US, how low can you get. And yeah, he plays for fun, but if he was good he would still have higher rating.
one of my fav vids bro, keep them coming very intertaining to watch
Mr Swifty, I know that you are a popular guy and no doubt get tonnes of messages daily, but I want to say this anyway.
I think you are a fantastic guy, never before have I seen someone who respects their subscribers and provides such good content as you. Unlike many other RUclipsrs you actually reach out to your fans and thank them, and that earns you my utmost respect. I wish more people would follow in your footsteps because it would make RUclips a better place.
Even if you never see this, I had to let you know :) keep it up! I hope you have a great day, cheers man.
cartoonz vs hansol
I like Cobraks gameplay better
I want to see more of these in legion!
Why swifty never film duels on légion ?
bcs pvp in legion sucks .
Itchigo Bleach lol ye I have test légion pvp ist too bad
it going to get worst in bfa
Tatsuya Sensei Maybe, duels are better now at least
Been loving your videos lol, love the intro for Legends of the Arena. Keep up the good work :)
Can we please see Hansol vs Cartoonz
Have one video, hansol fire and ctrz fire
In the second match Cobrak tanked the orb for some reason, and in the last match looks like he panicked and overhealed himself, could've won both times. Well played by him anyways.
Please do this again swifty. Pvp'ers have returned now because of Legion so it would be a great thing!
You can't do 1v1s in legion like you could in mop, it's terribly unbalanced now.
unbalanced? IMO classes and specs got defined a lot more. YES you cant 1v1 like you used to in mop but thats not a bad thing, Also is far from unbalanced compared to other exps.
Legion is beyond unbalanced what are you talking about? Legion is more broken than any other expansion inturn towards duels. Your entire argument and statement is invalid. PvP in Legion is terrible.
PvP should never been balanced around 1v1 duels... if u cant understand that simple concept then u are just clueless. just because before you could 1v1 with most of the specs doesnt mean was a good thing. so please learn to read.
It is. The fact that you dont want to believe it is just closeminded.
does anyone know what transmog is toonz wearing in the presentation
Mop best xpac for pvp i my opinion.
I miss it so much :(
Omg, someone actually shares my opinion. So sad WoW Freakz is dead server now.
i really want to play mop again. used to play in freakz but its dead as you say ;(
@@maikisvk3237 I played on WoWfreakz too but was mostly pve unlike pandawow.ru which is still alive and 95% pvp
Genial, una de las mejores arenas vistas 1v1... good players ; )
Cobrak outplayed him badly. shit mage
Love your videos man! Hope you keep being so awesome!
I want to see hansol vs warlololock
Woot cartoonz!
I take this back
Bajheera vs Revolutio
Unfair cuz dks > warrior
These videos are always badass, love all the music, and the editing.
Cartoonz vs hansol
That would be awesome xD
1:45 to skip the BS
CARTOONZ FOR EVAH MAGES 4 THE WIN
Here I am again, watching the best duel of all time!
GG Cobrak , Cartz was realy lucky with that fuking full proc !!!
No? He used alt time to keep his procs up
shut up
COBRAK WINS HANDS DOWN
this is 5.2 patch i think best time for warlocks)))
+Вадим Свирид everything before 5.0 was the best time for warlocks. when afflis used to be a serious mobility dot class with infinite soul swaps
SICK INTRO SWIFTY! That's armor intro was sick
Cartoonz, seriously? Ziqo 505456 times better.
sodapoppin beat ziqo LOL....and yet cartoonz facerolls soda. mkay clown.
haha so much shit talk.
reaper reap Soda is really good lawl......
reaper reap True :) rickrolled and facerolled sodas ass. .hahaha
Different tactics
Hey swifty, I want to see cartoonz play a warlock vs cobrak and see how skilled he actually is when he can't just instant freecast every spell.
And you know mages you know its true they've always been op and now even more faceroll, never ending instants.
3 fears, a stun,pet cc, 2 REDICULOUS self heals.....yeah warlocks are such skill............there is no hard class to play in wow anymore its all about forcing CD's you fucking puppet.
more skill becuase there is 2 MORE heals than a mage? or how bout 2 immunity buttons...no class in wow takes skill anymore is the point, yes warlocks have more buttons to press ' also more heals and immunities than any other class ' if thats what you think skill is..
reaper reap this guy XD
rofl the skill cap of a mage is higher then a lock, and a lock only has to hit 3 buttons to burst and put the whole other team at 30% plus they make sure that the healer doesn't cleanse so all in all locks are very good or "op"
*****
warlocks are pretty good yes, against caster.
But shit did you played them against warriors or even rogues, then it's BYE BYE warlock :)
Cobrak 4 Ever
That first duel, is probably the best duel I have ever seen
frost mage vs. a class that casts… gg.
the worst mage ever i see
The worse grammar I have seen ever see
Hahaha noob.
He is bad but fortunately World of Warcraft puts much more weight on Luck through all its % chance based plays like proccing Fingers and Proccing BrainFreezes. People think mages are broken but when you understand even simple math you see that any mage that deals enough damage to stay relevant is just getting lucky proc strings
Lol ye. I dont really care if he got luck or no. He just suck xd.
Sh noob
Ok at 8:15-or 8:20, how the fuck can he run and cast chaos bolt? Edit: and after that runs while casting Immolate also...I do Not know what this shit is, I do know its not legit WoW realm.
Since the begining of MoP till 5.4 (I think?), Kil'Jaden's Cunning was actually a passive that made the warlock be able to cast and channel spells while moving. So yes, it is a legit WoW realm.
Fábio Bravo I see, thats crazy..if it was with chaos bolt also lol
Gizmoriderful Ye made your movement speed reduce to like 60% movement speed at all times if you keept walking and casting
before patch 5.4 warlocks could cast anything while moving if they had a certain talent
Jim Shurewoould its only for incenerate
sweet matches man, i really think that match was one of the best ive ever watched
Bad luck Cob. You da man still :)
Well Cobrak was definately better. It`s just well.. tell me an expansion where Mage is not OP.
Even though Cartoonz won, he still played like shit this whole video....
Do elaborate on how he played like shit, what made you think that. What did he misplay etc
no fire breath, no interrupts, only killed the pet once, actually letting him get CB's off....
Fire breath? Did you mean the dragon's breath? Since frost mages don't have it. And he did block and interupt a lot of CBs...idc for either of those players just trying to see what can be done better vs locks as a mage.
i love this series, keep them going pleeease!
Mage is for noobs warlock is skill
Warlocks are for people with poor grammar skills. :)
Watching a frost mage play is boring, play a real spec
fuk frost mage
Is it just me, or is cartoonz way to overrated as player ?
Awesome video's as always. your working hard, keep it up!
one hell of a match there!! Cant wait to see more!!!
This was the best fight of the series, hey swifty really enjoyed the series would love another 1
I am so in love with the intro !!!
The first duel was the best duel I have ever seen.
Swifty I have one question, you say that liking the video realy helps you, but you just disable it on almost every video, so how are we supposed to do so?
Awesome intro for the fight! ;)))
2020 who misses MoP pvp?
Wow I'm not going to lie that was an extremely entertaining arena. Caster v. caster got intense
Great vid dude! :D
so I fought you in arenas today. was excited that i won!
I like these legends of arenas videos, I wanna see Hansol in these :D
Why do you guys bother bitching about who's better when clearly Cartoonz and Cobrak are friends? They've got numerous videos of playing together or playing vs eachother. Also go check Cobrak's PoV of Legends of the Arena duels to understand what I am on about for starters.
No good at pvp myself, but i love watching these vids... keep up the world class arse kicking guys!
how does cobrak move whilst casting fear and immolate?
5.3 was golden time 4 Warlock ! Now its the HUNTER!
Ya i miss moving while casting, have to say it was really OP
but i miss it
Shawn Harrison yea i miss it too, but now you cast 4 fuckin chaos bolts in two targets just in 4-5sek with havoc :D thats some op shit
cobrak inspierd me to play destro lock
:)
Thanks cobrak im loving it.
Man that was def a battle of the titans awesome match up
Swifty its great to see you going strong for so long. Big fan. I have played with / know hotted in game and on twitch and perhaps one day I will guest in some videos with yas ^_^
swifty I love your intro showing all your armor its badass
Hey Swifty.do you play Warlords of Draneor,if you do,on which Realm,btw great videos
He's on Darkspear
Never expected Cartoonz to win. Fucking awesome vid, I'd like to see Swifty v.s. Bahjeera. Or Cartoonz v.s. Hanzol.
That was really friggin good duels.. Cartoonz hits like a truck. I want to see Cartoonz 1v1 a really good feral druid.
OMGGG trying to win prize, my mouse is falllling apart :D nice vid :P
The main reason why cartoonz won: He avoided ALL the Chaos Bolts, Pretty nice job, gg
great video - keep them coming
Once again, Cartoonz prooves he's still among the top mages, might even still be the best.
He's not bad, i'd like to see any of you do what Cobrak did twice.
- Proud mage.
i dont understand how he's casting fear, chaos bolt, and immolate while moving.. is it just his addons or am i just not seeing the picture correctly?
Are swift and hotted related? Or just really good friends or something? How do they know each other?
Reckful vs. Mercader (after you swifty duel hotted)! Let's finally see who is better ;)
This kind of tournament should not be a place for internet trolls to say things like 'Cobrak is bad' or 'Cartoonz is bad'. People have a hard time realizing that each class is very individual, as well as each spec. Cartoonz is a badass mage and Cobrak is a badass warlock and given certain instances, one class has an advantage over the other (Like when Cobrak teleported upstairs to juke Cartoonz in Blades Edge or when they got maps that gave Cartoonz a lot of free cast like in ruins of lordaeron).
In logic, skill vs another player should not be based upon who gets the kill, especially if it's 2 different classes --- even if the one that emerges with the killing blow is USUALLY obvious. It should be based on how they individually react to certain instances. Each class has a cooldown on a lot of abilities which gives a limit on what each class can do and how much they do it when the time arrives. By no means is PVP balanced in the slightest which gives no right to any 1 sided statement.
With so many differences in how different classes/people can set up their character to be supreme in a specific 1v1 scenario (reforges, gems, enchants, professions, talents, glyphs, picking this piece over that, EVEN THE ENVIRONMENT) there really shouldn't be anyone bitching about anything. Not to mention again that some classes are just stronger than others in general.
In ALL cases, it's not about the kill, it's about what you did to strategically get your ass kicked.
This comment is not to glorify Cobrak or Cartoonz, it is to bring light to the ignorant comment posters. They both played to the best of their ability.
I would like to see Cobrak and Cartoonz do some games together, whether that be in 2s, 3s, or 5s and I really hope the making of this video didn't make any of the players bitter at each other, that would be kinda lame.
Thanks swifty! :)
This is cool and all but whats your mmr?
Great video, pally heals are crazy...
I freakin love Legends of the Arena... So GOOD!
Hey Swifty. i have been watching you for awhile now. I have been playing wow since wrath and i have always played pve until now. Your videos have inspired me to pvp and on the realm darkspear with my buddys. Just want to let you know keep up the great work. Maybe ill see you in a bg or arena sometime.
which add-on is the one tha cartoonz uses that shows the debuffs exactly above of the opponent?
Mages are broken and faceroll, every time Cobrak puts in extreme skill to earn his chaos bolt.
Mage just iceblock, and spam instants, warlock has to cast, mage all instants.
EHM MELEE ALL INSTANTS NOOBS TOO I GUESS
mikaelss1 yep...
U MAD?
swifty vs pikaboo
45 year old vs 15 year old
where did you go paintballing at?
Question ! How can Cobrak cast EVERYTHING while moving ?
Sooo dat expansion you can do it , move and cast
It was a passive in the talent tree. Something like killjaden's blessing or curse I can't remember. Good times
That 3rd match from Cartoonz' PoV. My only thought was..
"The RNG is strong in this one."
Looks like you need to change your intro to a gnome gnow! :P
WTB NAGA!
Throw me please all the music from this video here or which remained Swifty Legends of the Arena - Cobrak vs. Cartoonz I will be grateful:З
when will have new Legends of the Arena?
This is a new account, I've seen all of these... many times.
Hell Yea ! Awesome video Swifty :)
I enjoy these matches a lot, keep em up Swifty and Hotted.
that was some awesome skilled fights. very entertaining to watch.
it would be cool, winners vs winners
sees title, wets myself...
PBW is awesome! I live like 10miles away from there. Used to play every sunday.
Thanks mate.
Cartoonz got lucky.