Fonseca Sweeps The NextGen Field | Monday Match Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @lucine.resende
    @lucine.resende День назад +10

    João (my two cents on the pronunciation project: it's a nasal a, it's pronounced like the un in "under") really played some of his best tennis this week. It was so exciting to watch! His serve and defense have really made some progress, and he had some clutch moments, especially on the tiebreaks. I enjoyed this year's next gen finals much more than last year's (except for the deciding point, which I loathe). Thanks for the great coverage, as always :)

    • @Norf.F.C.Zoomer
      @Norf.F.C.Zoomer День назад +1

      @@lucine.resende who cares about pronunciation, Joao clearly doesn't, and it's being said in English so expect English pronunciation.

    • @tobiasgoldman
      @tobiasgoldman День назад +1

      ​@@Norf.F.C.Zoomer anyone who cares about language or cares about their name being properly pronounced.

    • @lucine.resende
      @lucine.resende День назад +2

      @Norf.F.C.Zoomer Why are you so pressed? It's just a tip. Gill likes to know how to say the name of the players properly. There's no English pronunciation, names don't have translation, we should learn how to say them the way the player says it, that's why there is the audio at the ATP site.

    • @Norf.F.C.Zoomer
      @Norf.F.C.Zoomer День назад

      @@lucine.resende the English pronunciation is how English speakers can and will pronounce it, language operates on a utility basis. Correct and lots of players on the ATP website simplify pronunciation to make it suitable for non speakers of their language, usually English. Stop with the woke bs.

    • @soysaucehairdye7869
      @soysaucehairdye7869 День назад

      @@Norf.F.C.Zoomer How is her giving a friendly tip on how to pronounce the ã in Brazilian Portuguese woke? You are a clown for being such a snowflake and piazza about the matter...

  • @adambernstein-performances8330
    @adambernstein-performances8330 День назад +10

    Great video (as always) Gil! Love you man. Super pumped for the top 10 predictions!!

  • @ollygough9865
    @ollygough9865 День назад +5

    Love that you covered the Next Gen so much Gill!!! Legend!!! Love JF- super excited for him! Great comments!!!!!

  • @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
    @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten День назад +14

    0:18 I would even say the most exciting young player that is not Sinner or Carlos.

  • @tasaneewantanakul8382
    @tasaneewantanakul8382 2 дня назад +8

    The future young player so fantastic congrats Fonseca🇧🇷🎉🏆

  • @jellaoud9712
    @jellaoud9712 2 дня назад +52

    Fonseca, instead of Rune, is going to make the big 3 with Sinner & Alcaraz

    • @rodrigocadima9174
      @rodrigocadima9174 2 дня назад +6

      Defo has the tools and is really well composed mentally, unlike Rune ofc lmao

    • @hitthurdeaux
      @hitthurdeaux 2 дня назад +20

      No idea why people are so fixated on thinking there will be another Big 3.

    • @ollygough9865
      @ollygough9865 День назад

      Yeah- I agree re: big 3…..excited about JF- huge prospect!! Someone for me to get behind after Novak retires….seems super humble and grounded.

    • @liamcannon9617
      @liamcannon9617 День назад

      sinner wont be in the big 10, nevermind the big 3

    • @francescomargaritelli183
      @francescomargaritelli183 День назад +5

      ​@@liamcannon9617 what? Lol at the moment he is the big 1 to be honest 😂

  • @ostrogodo
    @ostrogodo День назад +2

    8:30 Gil correct me, but the craziest part of João being placed here is players in that area are all tall, huge serves, so that +1 is there making this stat high, like Eubanks. João is 1,85m going for those winners in a rally.

  • @SidneyBe
    @SidneyBe 2 дня назад +4

    Heard a lot of hype about Fonseca, really looking forward to seeing more of him in 2025..hopefully add another phenom to the mix🎾🎾…

  • @andrewash9318
    @andrewash9318 2 дня назад +3

    New pronunciation project: Joao (with the tilde) does not rhyme with Wow. It's similar to the Sao in Sao Paulo. But I completely agree with your analysis: he suddenly found consistency on his shots, and he started beating everybody someone with his talent should be beating.
    Learner started the year playing starter futures, and this past week he beat #21, #41 and #48 in the world, and had that set point for a 2-0 lead against a future top 10. Somehow, he just wins, and it's up to us to get a better handle on how he does it. My sense is that he prefers to counterpunch, waiting for a winnable ball to unleash the power, and otherwise playing high percentage tennis. With his accuracy off the ground, that's good enough to beat the vast majority of players, but against the best he will almost certainly need to start taking more risk on his own shots. But I have no doubt that he will figure it out. The serve does need to be improved, and I think Jannik and Novak provide excellent examples of the benefits of reworking a suboptimal serve, especially when you're so young. Btw: I saw him up very close at the Knoxville Challenger. He's not that tall, but he is broad shouldered and very thickly muscled, and I'm guessing that's where the power comes from. I passed by him outside the facility, and he comes across as a very chill SoCal surfer dude with an easy smile who just happens to be a tennis champion in his formative years.
    Totally stoked by your comments about Nishesh. He does play very much in Novak's style, in exactly the ways you noted. (Given Novak's success, it is somewhat surprising that so few players have tried to do so, in comparison to the many who have copied aspects of Roger's and Rafa's games.) With all due respect, I think his serve is suboptimal. He does win a lot of points off it due to disguise and placement, but the power is not there. He has said that he tried to copy early Novak's serve, and he pretty much acknowledged that that might not have been the best idea. He also needs to improve mentally. I watched the semifinal match in Knoxville against Learner, and he just seemed to forget who he was and how he wins points. You could even hear him talking to himself, saying at times, "Dude, what are you doing?" I would love to see him (and Learner) transition to a top tier coach. I'd be curious to know your thoughts as to how young players at their level come to the attention of the best coaches.
    For those interested, Nishesh did a lengthy interview in the last month on the Changeover Podcast. Very smart, very interesting guy. Last year at this time he was taking computer science classes at Stanford. Compared to the videos of him playing college tennis early this year, he has improved an unbelievable amount in the last eight months, and I think there is more to come. So inspiring to see a fellow nerd have such athletic success.

  • @soysaucehairdye7869
    @soysaucehairdye7869 День назад +2

    João Fonseca and Macklin Celebrini are two 18 year old powerhouses in their sports.

  • @CarlosTheNovakSlayer
    @CarlosTheNovakSlayer День назад +2

    Love this kid

  • @divinitymode9364
    @divinitymode9364 22 часа назад +1

    I was very disappointed to see them all glued to the baseline. Guess it’s still just Carlitos with the skill and daring to play the game how it’s meant to be played.

    • @michaelmityok1001
      @michaelmityok1001 18 часов назад +1

      Yup, the game is not evolving in an aesthetically pleasing direction.

  • @krishnaramachandran7722
    @krishnaramachandran7722 День назад +2

    Arthur Fils, Learner Tien and Michelson will do well too in 2025 and beyond apart from Fonseca.

  • @VARMOT123
    @VARMOT123 День назад +2

    Nishesh is an unreal talent as well . Djokovic clone minus the gymnatic athleticism .gill ,bring on mike cation to talk about nishesh and learner

  • @ostrogodo
    @ostrogodo День назад +2

    🇧🇷

  • @ZlatniPlast
    @ZlatniPlast 2 дня назад +6

    Fonseca looks like Federer, plus he has a double handed backhand!!

    • @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
      @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten День назад

      And mostly his strokes have that fluid whip, which is similar to Federer. And his forehand also has some similarities with a young version of Federer.

    • @malekat8539
      @malekat8539 День назад

      @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
      What... No it doesn't

    • @ZlatniPlast
      @ZlatniPlast День назад

      @@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten He looks like he is Feds son. But his shots look different. He is upgraded Federer version. He will destroy the tour in 2-3 years

  • @JayneBangert
    @JayneBangert День назад +4

    Great for Fonseca but he´s weaker than Alcaraz and Sinner at his age

  • @jayj1054
    @jayj1054 День назад +2

    Gill, great analysis. Glad to see your take on Nishesh, was impressed but didn’t know what to make of him. Given we will see João a lot , you need to find a way to learn to pronounce his name. As an American living in Brazil, it’s jarring to hear his name pronounced wrongly by literally every American / British commentator.

    • @Norf.F.C.Zoomer
      @Norf.F.C.Zoomer День назад +2

      Who cares it's a foreign name, if you're listening to English speakers expect English pronunciation. I work with a lot of Chinese and they can't pronounce my name properly and that's fine, in fact it's actually different in Chinese too.

    • @jayj1054
      @jayj1054 23 часа назад +1

      @ nothing wrong in getting it right!

  • @2caiovini
    @2caiovini День назад +1

    E teve #FonsecaDay

  • @AlanSchorsch
    @AlanSchorsch 2 дня назад +8

    Yeah but Gill, who names their kid Learner? 🤨

    • @zirkvandenberg7776
      @zirkvandenberg7776 2 дня назад +1

      Non-English family background could explain that.

    • @AlanSchorsch
      @AlanSchorsch 2 дня назад

      @ ALL the more reason why it’s weird. If you are a non-english speaking family, and you want to name your kid an English name to give him an easier time integrating, why would you not go with sum safe? Why choose a freaking Verb that has never been used for a name?

    • @bucknut2000
      @bucknut2000 День назад +1

      @@AlanSchorschi heard it comes from his mom who's a teacher

    • @ClairHuxtable-e9u
      @ClairHuxtable-e9u День назад

      @@AlanSchorsch Counterpoint: It's really enjoyable seeing how pressed you are about his name, so that's certainly a mark in his mom's favor

    • @AlanSchorsch
      @AlanSchorsch День назад

      @@ClairHuxtable-e9u She really did a good job pressing a random youtube commenter by naming her kid the most stupid name possible, what a boss mom 👏 you know what would’ve made her even more of a boss, if she named her kid Dildo or sum 💩, then every time someone got pressed over it she keeps leaving marks. 👏 she really missed the opportunity to leave the most amount of Marks.

  • @DavidDrysdale-c4p
    @DavidDrysdale-c4p 2 дня назад

    It's tough to pronounce, but here's the secret:
    Try to get it (João) in one quick syllable! With a touch of nasal!

    • @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten
      @tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten День назад +2

      Fonseca himself doesn't do it that quickly (on the ATP website), but maybe that's to help westerners pronounce it.

    • @Norf.F.C.Zoomer
      @Norf.F.C.Zoomer День назад +1

      Who cares, we all know who he means and it it's being said in English, expect English pronunciation.

    • @morganrv
      @morganrv День назад +1

      Non Portuguese speakers will never be able to pronounce it like a native, forget it. I don’t think João cares

  • @ProbablyLying
    @ProbablyLying 2 дня назад +3

    42 minutes is way too long. Say what you need to say in 21 minutes. fucking hell, mate. Learner is learning. He'll be top 20 in 2026. Really smart player. Fonseca is a threat to the top 10. Still saying Fils is entering top 10 in 2025 and a Masters 1000 win.

    • @GabrielMiranda-mc9ip
      @GabrielMiranda-mc9ip 2 дня назад +49

      Simple solution to you:
      - Do not Watch!

    • @choide19
      @choide19 2 дня назад +2

      i’m absolutely here for all 42 minutes. Gill, we love your long form content, never change.

    • @hogeysandwich1633
      @hogeysandwich1633 2 дня назад +28

      Sounds like a you problem.

    • @lsb9073
      @lsb9073 2 дня назад

      "Mate"
      You have 134 subscribers over 8 yrs.
      Dont tell Gill what to do.
      And, dont be a d*ck.

    • @lsb9073
      @lsb9073 2 дня назад +22

      We're not here for you, 'Mate'. Go talk to your 134 subscribers from over 8 years.

  • @Kreatures100
    @Kreatures100 День назад +1

    For every Sinner and Alcaraz emerging here there is always a Nakashima and Hamad whom didn’t shoot to the stars. Mensik was supposed to be the guy and Fils and both fell. Mensik was injured and it’s a chronic problem. He also chokes way too much. The forehand nets under pressure and he get very tight. Fils has too many off days. A pattern of doing great then badly. The two finalist are solid. I suspect Tien as a bit too tight under pressure. He needs to fix that where he plays to win and get rid of not losing. Fonseca has more killer instinct. Nice package of a ground strokes net and serve.
    But this wasn’t a true score ( first one to four games) huh? Why? Doesn’t tell us enough. Fonseca had a slightly lessthan stellar year but prob due to too much hype and unnecessary pressure. But He also really rained in the energy zapping crowd neediness which is hurting some top players and is developing beautifully. Much more mature In a short period. Tien had a great year but not sure his ceiling is much higher. We need actual sets and constant matches to see how they hold under pressure week in and out.

    • @WestonMeyer-n6x
      @WestonMeyer-n6x День назад

      Mensik is unfortunately a Czech Draper. A big guy with a lot of power and decent speed but he gets injured all of the time and loses matches he should win because of those injuries.

    • @Kreatures100
      @Kreatures100 День назад

      Yup agree. I hope he can fix that where he currently has shoulder and forearm problems.

    • @Norf.F.C.Zoomer
      @Norf.F.C.Zoomer День назад +2

      ​@@WestonMeyer-n6xtbf Draper just had his best year 2 titles including a 500 and a GS semi final, he looks on track to be a solid top 10 player

    • @WestonMeyer-n6x
      @WestonMeyer-n6x День назад +1

      @@Norf.F.C.Zoomer
      Mensik will eventually be very good(he beat a seemingly unstoppable Rublev and a resurgent Monfils back to back and both of them defeated Alcaraz later this year so he has the potential)but like Draper it will take him too long to be consistent to be the very best.
      The one thing Mensik has going for him though is that he is already decent on clay and he literally just had his first ATP match on clay this year.