2:13 Retro Fighters should design a Keyboard+Mouse controller for all consoles but it still plugs into their respective console controller ports. They would make FPS games very, very tolerable. If only such a thing existed. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............. 🤔
I don't need any of them... But I'll pick one just to support them. I also checked their latency its only half frame (which is very good) they do quality stuff and for a fair price (in my opinion)
Double-a batteries aren't an antiquated technology, Adam, and are actually superior to internalla installed batteries. The original Wavebird being the perfect example of why user replaceable batteries are a better fit for wireless controllers in general. I can still pop-in a set of disposable or rechargable double-a batteries into a Wavebird controller and get good battery life, in complete contrast to PS3 controllers just a single generation later. For someone who prefers physical media, the ability to keep retro wireless controllers alive and functional without having to open it up and replace an internal battery seems like a plus to me.
@@AdamKoralikDamn, that sounds like a serious run of bad luck to me, as I've been using both single use and rechargeable double-a batteries since the OG Gameboy days and never had any of them explode on me. I guess I could've had a serious string of good luck that's lasted my entire 32 years on this earth when it comes to batteries, but that seems kinda doubtful. I do remove them if they're in a high-drain device (like controllers or handhelds) if I'm not going to use said device for an extended period, something most people don't do, if the amount of Gameboys I've seen with corroded battery contacts is any indication.
I’ll be cool if they release one in a platinum color since the Cube it’s sorta known for that color and it was a limited edition(not really) color for the console and controller
Both seem as a great alternative for the Wavebird. I ordered the BattlerGC since most of the Gamecube games that I play relies more on the analogue stick, even the Dpad on that looks better than the tiny on the official GC controller
If you have a modded Wii U you could probably use HID to VPAD to simulate it as a Wii U Pro Controller. Could be a cool way to get extra use out of it.
Got these for the Wii finally don't have to deal with trashed up Wavebird controllers. Wii is just my personal preference over GC due to it's better homebrew and hardware.
The wavebird is my all time favorite controller. If it works with USB it should run with my retropie setup which I really need wireless controllers for. I may have to pick up a couple of these!
I preordered both. The battler GC controller from what I remember was never meant to be made originally, just the blade GC. However they had a ton of criticism the GC community saying how the blade GC controller was too similar to a PlayStation controller to their liking so Retro Fighters then went back to the drawing board & made the battler GC. Can't wait for the retro store in my area to get them in. Getting both controllers. One is for traditional GC games & the other is for playing games on my GB player
You got it all wrong on AA batteries. It makes any controller durable as hell. A well maintained Wavebird controller will outlive any Playstation controller because glued or soldered batteries is a shitty design decision.
Wow! I had glanced at this thing but just assumed it was a Switch controller. Now that I know it's for GC (but also works on Switch), I decided to order one! Thanks for the great video and I look forward to this thing arriving.
@@AmbientMess I tried to post a reply with some links, but youtube doesn't seem to like them. You'll just have to Google them. Google fzero gx remaster I guess. Take it with a massive grain of salt, though. There's probably only like a 1% chance it's true 🙄
@TokyoFool love your profile pic of kaiba. Don't appreciate your answer though. Do a Google search if you don't believe me. I never said it was for sure a done deal. They're just rumors. I didn't write them, and it probably won't happen anyway :/
Nice video Adam! The BladeGC is my first Retro Fighters controller. For GBA games, as well as stuff like 2D GameCube games or collections, it's amazing. I did run into a weird quirk that kind of reminds me of your Metal Gear issue. In the Mega Man X Collection, I tried the first game, and my inputs kept getting dropped. No other game, not even the other games in the same collection, have had that issue. I'd hold down B and my character would release his charge shot when he felt like it. Kind of weird; never had that issue with a real Wavebird. The only other issue I have is with Mario Sunshine, you need to know when R is held down all the way, because Mario will stop and aim with the pump, but its much harder to get a feel with it without the click in the shoulder buttons. Like I said though, otherwise amazing.
18 months ago or however long ago when I preordered these controllers, I planned on using these with the gamecube, but since getting more into the switch in the interim, I'm really excited to see what games I have that can benefit from the asymmetrical button/stick layouts. I've been playing Wunderling DX a lot lately and I think it works great with some button configuration. Thanks for the video adam!
Is there like a list of games that doesn't work with the BattlerGC? So far, my experience has been good, but I decided to pop in Naruto Clash of Ninja Revolution 2, and the controller would go haywire, made the game unplayable. Thought it was the controller but I tested it with the first Naruto game and it worked fine, I even tested it with a GameCube game and it seems to only be with Clash of Ninja Revolution 2, maybe others. Idk if certain games had a piracy thing with fake controllers or something, so maybe the game is reading it as a non official controller or something? Playing on original hardware, not emulating.
I am so happy that a new alternative to the Hori GameCube controller exists! I didn't know this version of the GC Retro Fighter controller even coming out, so thank you very much for this video Adam! My SP 101 was accidentally knocked over by a cousin, and some of it's shell/hinge cracked, so I've been playing GB/GBC on my GameCube with OG GBA as controller until I replace the shell. My og GBA's dpad is getting a little stiff, so pressing on it a bunch while playing Oracle of Ages (favorite Zelda game) on my GameCube a few weeks ago was painful. I didn't get far, before swapping to replaying Link's Awakening on Switch. Almost done with LA, so I'm going totally going to one of these from my local game store on Monday and hop back into Ages :D
Don't get the blade until they fix the analog stick issue. I got the battlergc and I like it quite a bit. Been playing melee and brawl with it, its a good wireless controller 👌
I got to the part about the triggers and i had to stop to think. Had this been one-two years ago, i would've been all over controllers like these, but man, that Laserbear Blueretro controller port replacement is a game changer. Used my PS5 controller no problem, even with that quickdraw thing. I even remapped the control scheme as best i coukd to function like MGS2 on PS2. Per game settings is also really nice. Easy as pie mod to do.
I love how they advertise "comfortable and accurate D-Pad". Seriously, Nintendo has a history of making great D-Pads, but nobody every talks about the one time that they were clearly high and thought that the D-Pad for the official GC controller needed to be microscopic.
i kinda wish they release the platinum color. which i have myself the platinum gamecube. but who knows. it's really cool to have this controller to play in wireless.
@@jeremyzeeky3024 I just ordered mine the other day. I have the original defender which is perfect for ps1 and ps2. The new Bluetooth defender will be perfect for the ps3 and I think I remember reading it'll be great for the ps4 as well
@@jeremyzeeky3024 I'm not sure cuz I haven't received mine yet but I remember reading someone's comments on a video saying that it could. But I can't confirm that myself yet
this is a very important questions for shiny hunters. can u control multiple gamecubes with 1 controller using multiple receivers like u can with the wavebird controller?
8:00 here's an idea for Retro Fighters: a GameCube controller or a 4-player multi-controller that has nothing but the Z button(s). What use could this possibly have? Well, you could use it when you power on the console just to conveniently hear the secret 1Z or even the 4Z boot-up sounds. That's it. That's literally the only use for this special controller
on controllers that still use AAs, can confirm the XBOX series still does! (fortunately thanks to my wife accidentally ordering a package of like 100 rechargeable batteries, we were somewhat prepared! haha) But more on topic this does seem like a cool controller especially for stuff like the game boy player. IDK if my wife still has her gamecube but would likely pick one of these up assuming it turns up.
this is a common issue with some devices, a lot of devices will only charge from a C to A cable and not C to C. although if you use a C to A adapter you can get charge into a device that doesn't support C to C cables. I have no clue why but that's how it is.
Hey Adam! You recently did a video for The bit station games. Do you happen to have a contact for them? I've been trying to reach them but no luck. Thank you!!!!
So does this controller take the place of the classic controller in the wii? Some wii games are gc compatible and classic controller compatible. Can i use this controller instead of the classic controller for games such as the conduit 2? Seeung how its only classic controller compatible.
19:41 Just dont press the trigger all the way in press it a bit so it registers the press and let it go. This happens cause the original's controllers had buttons instead of triggers, and so when you press it with the trigger it registers the press but since you keep pressing it so it goes all the way down and then let it go its not fast enough to do the quick change/unequip(I assume that you can choose to unequip weapons that way because the twin snakes was based on mgs2's mechanics and that had an option for it)
I imagine retrofighters be like: Adam: "mentions a quirk or oddity" Retrofighters: TAKE NOTE, TAKE NOTE If they are well priced i can see them replacing controllers for casual gaming, but for smash i would go original tbh.
Adam...you do know there are rechargable AA batteries, right? And in my humble opinion are better than the wireless controllers with a built in battery that eventually go bad. With the wave bird and the modern xbox controllers you won't have battery issues.
It sucks when they don't make bluetooth versions of these. 2.4ghz is great and all, but when everything needs it's own dongle, you run out of USB ports REAL QUICK.
Just got mine today. And the dongle didn’t work on my Wii or 2 GameCubes. 😢 only worked on my switch with the usb. The GameCube dongle doesn’t light up. I was so hyped for nothing
Battler is better solely for the fact that the GameCube being played with the PlayStation stick layout is abhorrent. I like the battler, it's nice to have a wireless controller with Rumble
the sad reality is the smash community (even if some of the pros prefer the ergonomics of this controller) have already banned this controller before anyone can use it because of turbo-fire. ironic really.
11:15 who cares about using the BladeGC & BattlerGC on the Sega Mini's when you could try using them on the Mattel Hyperscan, Bandai Playdia, and the Chippin Pippin?
I noticed that with the BladeGC controllers, only the black one had symmetrical thumbsticks, while the purple one was asymmetrical, at least, that's what was displayed on the box. Why is that?
Apart from the quirks and minor issues, Retro Fighters came close to making something pretty cool here.
2:13 Retro Fighters should design a Keyboard+Mouse controller for all consoles but it still plugs into their respective console controller ports. They would make FPS games very, very tolerable. If only such a thing existed. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.............. 🤔
I don't need any of them... But I'll pick one just to support them. I also checked their latency its only half frame (which is very good) they do quality stuff and for a fair price (in my opinion)
this is the review I was waiting for, great job as always, man👍🏾
Great job with the video very in depth and informative as normal. Keep up the good work.
If the Wavebird had rumble it would be my favourite controller of all time. Gamecube wired rumble was really nice.
Thanks for showing these! The BladeGC is definitely on my list now, because I have been looking for a good Gamecube Dpad for a while.
Double-a batteries aren't an antiquated technology, Adam, and are actually superior to internalla installed batteries. The original Wavebird being the perfect example of why user replaceable batteries are a better fit for wireless controllers in general. I can still pop-in a set of disposable or rechargable double-a batteries into a Wavebird controller and get good battery life, in complete contrast to PS3 controllers just a single generation later. For someone who prefers physical media, the ability to keep retro wireless controllers alive and functional without having to open it up and replace an internal battery seems like a plus to me.
Given the amount of AA batteries I've had explode and the annoyance of buying them over and over, meh...
@@AdamKoralikDamn, that sounds like a serious run of bad luck to me, as I've been using both single use and rechargeable double-a batteries since the OG Gameboy days and never had any of them explode on me. I guess I could've had a serious string of good luck that's lasted my entire 32 years on this earth when it comes to batteries, but that seems kinda doubtful. I do remove them if they're in a high-drain device (like controllers or handhelds) if I'm not going to use said device for an extended period, something most people don't do, if the amount of Gameboys I've seen with corroded battery contacts is any indication.
I’ll be cool if they release one in a platinum color since the Cube it’s sorta known for that color and it was a limited edition(not really) color for the console and controller
Both seem as a great alternative for the Wavebird. I ordered the BattlerGC since most of the Gamecube games that I play relies more on the analogue stick, even the Dpad on that looks better than the tiny on the official GC controller
If you have a modded Wii U you could probably use HID to VPAD to simulate it as a Wii U Pro Controller. Could be a cool way to get extra use out of it.
Yes! This will work 100%.
Got these for the Wii finally don't have to deal with trashed up Wavebird controllers. Wii is just my personal preference over GC due to it's better homebrew and hardware.
I agree completely
The wavebird is my all time favorite controller. If it works with USB it should run with my retropie setup which I really need wireless controllers for. I may have to pick up a couple of these!
Love it! Our review units should be here Monday, so video next week!
Yo thanks for the shout homie! I hope you're doing well 🙌🙌🙌
Yeah son!
I love the new GameCube controller. I want to get it.
I preordered both. The battler GC controller from what I remember was never meant to be made originally, just the blade GC. However they had a ton of criticism the GC community saying how the blade GC controller was too similar to a PlayStation controller to their liking so Retro Fighters then went back to the drawing board & made the battler GC.
Can't wait for the retro store in my area to get them in. Getting both controllers. One is for traditional GC games & the other is for playing games on my GB player
The sticks being too sensitive kill it for me.
You got it all wrong on AA batteries. It makes any controller durable as hell. A well maintained Wavebird controller will outlive any Playstation controller because glued or soldered batteries is a shitty design decision.
I get where you're coming from but I personally would rather deal with that than the shittiness of AAs.
Wow! I had glanced at this thing but just assumed it was a Switch controller. Now that I know it's for GC (but also works on Switch), I decided to order one! Thanks for the great video and I look forward to this thing arriving.
Wireless gamecube controllers would be badass if they ended up remastering fzero gx like the rumors suggest. Fingers crossed
Rumours from where?
@@AmbientMess I tried to post a reply with some links, but youtube doesn't seem to like them. You'll just have to Google them. Google fzero gx remaster I guess. Take it with a massive grain of salt, though. There's probably only like a 1% chance it's true 🙄
@TokyoFool love your profile pic of kaiba. Don't appreciate your answer though. Do a Google search if you don't believe me. I never said it was for sure a done deal. They're just rumors. I didn't write them, and it probably won't happen anyway :/
19:29 I don't know if Revolver Ocelot will ever know if you use auto-tune, but even I would notice a floating assault rifle
Nice video Adam!
The BladeGC is my first Retro Fighters controller. For GBA games, as well as stuff like 2D GameCube games or collections, it's amazing. I did run into a weird quirk that kind of reminds me of your Metal Gear issue. In the Mega Man X Collection, I tried the first game, and my inputs kept getting dropped. No other game, not even the other games in the same collection, have had that issue. I'd hold down B and my character would release his charge shot when he felt like it. Kind of weird; never had that issue with a real Wavebird. The only other issue I have is with Mario Sunshine, you need to know when R is held down all the way, because Mario will stop and aim with the pump, but its much harder to get a feel with it without the click in the shoulder buttons. Like I said though, otherwise amazing.
18 months ago or however long ago when I preordered these controllers, I planned on using these with the gamecube, but since getting more into the switch in the interim, I'm really excited to see what games I have that can benefit from the asymmetrical button/stick layouts. I've been playing Wunderling DX a lot lately and I think it works great with some button configuration. Thanks for the video adam!
Is there like a list of games that doesn't work with the BattlerGC? So far, my experience has been good, but I decided to pop in Naruto Clash of Ninja Revolution 2, and the controller would go haywire, made the game unplayable. Thought it was the controller but I tested it with the first Naruto game and it worked fine, I even tested it with a GameCube game and it seems to only be with Clash of Ninja Revolution 2, maybe others. Idk if certain games had a piracy thing with fake controllers or something, so maybe the game is reading it as a non official controller or something? Playing on original hardware, not emulating.
Not that I'm aware of.
13:45 I never played MGS Twin Snakes, so I legit had to look that one up
Nice shirt. 😏 The GameCube controller is one of my all-time favorites.
Battler has analog sticks placed like WiiU Pro/Switch, BladeGC like Wii Classic Controller. 12:19 Both GameCube and USB dongle included
I am so happy that a new alternative to the Hori GameCube controller exists! I didn't know this version of the GC Retro Fighter controller even coming out, so thank you very much for this video Adam! My SP 101 was accidentally knocked over by a cousin, and some of it's shell/hinge cracked, so I've been playing GB/GBC on my GameCube with OG GBA as controller until I replace the shell. My og GBA's dpad is getting a little stiff, so pressing on it a bunch while playing Oracle of Ages (favorite Zelda game) on my GameCube a few weeks ago was painful. I didn't get far, before swapping to replaying Link's Awakening on Switch. Almost done with LA, so I'm going totally going to one of these from my local game store on Monday and hop back into Ages :D
Thanks for uploading today. I'm bored as crap at work.
Don't get the blade until they fix the analog stick issue. I got the battlergc and I like it quite a bit. Been playing melee and brawl with it, its a good wireless controller 👌
Thank you for mentioning here. I watched Madlittlepixel's video and the analog sticks seemed very problematic.
I got to the part about the triggers and i had to stop to think. Had this been one-two years ago, i would've been all over controllers like these, but man, that Laserbear Blueretro controller port replacement is a game changer. Used my PS5 controller no problem, even with that quickdraw thing. I even remapped the control scheme as best i coukd to function like MGS2 on PS2. Per game settings is also really nice. Easy as pie mod to do.
I love how they advertise "comfortable and accurate D-Pad".
Seriously, Nintendo has a history of making great D-Pads, but nobody every talks about the one time that they were clearly high and thought that the D-Pad for the official GC controller needed to be microscopic.
i kinda wish they release the platinum color. which i have myself the platinum gamecube. but who knows. it's really cool to have this controller to play in wireless.
the perfect controller for all the Dragon Drive D-Masters Shot fans
Have you gotten the chance to use the defender Bluetooth? Supposedly it has sixaxis support and can wake up the PS3.
Didn't I do a video on it?
@@AdamKoralik it's confusing but they just put out a Bluetooth version intended specifically for the PS3
@@jeremyzeeky3024 I just ordered mine the other day. I have the original defender which is perfect for ps1 and ps2. The new Bluetooth defender will be perfect for the ps3 and I think I remember reading it'll be great for the ps4 as well
@@ghostofva1987 can it wake up the PS3 and control it when it's in safe mode?
@@jeremyzeeky3024 I'm not sure cuz I haven't received mine yet but I remember reading someone's comments on a video saying that it could. But I can't confirm that myself yet
this is a very important questions for shiny hunters. can u control multiple gamecubes with 1 controller using multiple receivers like u can with the wavebird controller?
Noticed how he hasn't answered the question. Not a good reviewer.
8:00 here's an idea for Retro Fighters: a GameCube controller or a 4-player multi-controller that has nothing but the Z button(s). What use could this possibly have? Well, you could use it when you power on the console just to conveniently hear the secret 1Z or even the 4Z boot-up sounds. That's it. That's literally the only use for this special controller
16:50 dude, you gotta make an update video to find out if Revolver Ocelot knows about your auto-fire antics
on controllers that still use AAs, can confirm the XBOX series still does! (fortunately thanks to my wife accidentally ordering a package of like 100 rechargeable batteries, we were somewhat prepared! haha) But more on topic this does seem like a cool controller especially for stuff like the game boy player. IDK if my wife still has her gamecube but would likely pick one of these up assuming it turns up.
this is a common issue with some devices, a lot of devices will only charge from a C to A cable and not C to C. although if you use a C to A adapter you can get charge into a device that doesn't support C to C cables.
I have no clue why but that's how it is.
If you only want to have C to C cables, you can use a C to A and then an A to C cable.
Yes it's as dumb as you think it is
Good bye Wavebirds, hello Retro Fighters! 😎
I hope 8bitDo sends you one of their sn30pro+ controllers. I think you would really like it
As someone whos never used a gamecube controller which of the two would you recommend. Grew up on xbox (offset stucks) leaning towards the battle GC.
4:49 yo, Retro Fighters should make BattlerVM and BladeVM for VMware NuOn consoles
You don't really mention in the video but does the controller have the 8 analog notches? That's what I love about the GCN controller.
Oh like the plastic indents for the thumbstick?
Hey Adam! You recently did a video for The bit station games. Do you happen to have a contact for them? I've been trying to reach them but no luck. Thank you!!!!
16:09 maybe they don't support rapid fast-charging??
Adam rules
Flying and Eating Rules
GameCube rules
Hey Adam, how much were genuine Gamecube controllers in Japan when you last went?
Entirely depends on where you get them from and their condition and all that.
So does this controller take the place of the classic controller in the wii? Some wii games are gc compatible and classic controller compatible. Can i use this controller instead of the classic controller for games such as the conduit 2? Seeung how its only classic controller compatible.
To be honest, not sure, didn't use it on the Wii.
I like the Name BladeGC. why? because it sounds like a licensed Blade game exclusive for the GCN that never came out.
So you’re saying, the triggers are analogue only with no digital “click”?
I'm not sure of the tech to be totally honest, but yeah no "click."
7:22 It’s not Bluetooth! It’s just 2.4GHz Wireless.
12:25 bro, that's not a dongle. That's someone else's attempt to make an Adam Koralik Dreamcast keychain built to scale
19:11 The gamecube specifically? No the ps1 version of mgs did this too.
19:41 Just dont press the trigger all the way in press it a bit so it registers the press and let it go. This happens cause the original's controllers had buttons instead of triggers, and so when you press it with the trigger it registers the press but since you keep pressing it so it goes all the way down and then let it go its not fast enough to do the quick change/unequip(I assume that you can choose to unequip weapons that way because the twin snakes was based on mgs2's mechanics and that had an option for it)
I imagine retrofighters be like:
Adam: "mentions a quirk or oddity"
Retrofighters: TAKE NOTE, TAKE NOTE
If they are well priced i can see them replacing controllers for casual gaming, but for smash i would go original tbh.
GameCube controllers are engaging
wish this controller was Bluetooth like the N64 controller
If those controllers are compatible with Switch, do they have gyro?
That I don't know.
Adam...you do know there are rechargable AA batteries, right? And in my humble opinion are better than the wireless controllers with a built in battery that eventually go bad. With the wave bird and the modern xbox controllers you won't have battery issues.
Yes, I'm aware. I find them more annoying than practical though.
Speaking of gamecube I will say metroid prime remastered is probaly one of the best switch games
It sucks when they don't make bluetooth versions of these. 2.4ghz is great and all, but when everything needs it's own dongle, you run out of USB ports REAL QUICK.
if like me you are a wired controller fan, can the usb cable be used on a pc with the controller wired style(if that makes sense).
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Lodda information, lots more info than a few Peanuts, although if i bought of one these i might need a Lil Welfare afterwards....
🔥🔥🔥
Just got mine today. And the dongle didn’t work on my Wii or 2 GameCubes. 😢 only worked on my switch with the usb. The GameCube dongle doesn’t light up. I was so hyped for nothing
Sounds like a syncing issue.
@@AdamKoralik I’ve tried everything. I got a replacement coming tomorrow
I'm so conflicted. I love the ps layout but it feels incorrect for the gamecube.
Get the battlergc then
DREAMCAST CONTROLER!!!!!!!🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Battler is better solely for the fact that the GameCube being played with the PlayStation stick layout is abhorrent.
I like the battler, it's nice to have a wireless controller with Rumble
the sad reality is the smash community (even if some of the pros prefer the ergonomics of this controller) have already banned this controller before anyone can use it because of turbo-fire.
ironic really.
11:15 who cares about using the BladeGC & BattlerGC on the Sega Mini's when you could try using them on the Mattel Hyperscan, Bandai Playdia, and the Chippin Pippin?
I own a bit of these controllers and for 3rd party, nobody else makes any near as good and original stuff is to much or beat up
Does R1 serve as Z for gamecube games
Yes, it works on both R1 and R2.
If it runs out of battery, can you just plug it in and use it instantly, via usb c cable?
@@CmPuke101_ Actually that's a really good question, mine didn't die so I didn't encounter that.
Please OG Xbox next!
Does it work on Wii?
Didn't I go over that...?
@@AdamKoralik yes you did sorry
can this work on a wii
Not sure to be honest.
Why won't they do one for Xbox already!?!? GAAHH!!
Adam’s got all the toys 😡
😴💤
Are these gamepads LGBT friendly?
They possess no sentience, they're either everyone friendly or not friendly because they have no emotions, they're plastic.
I need this in my life
I noticed that with the BladeGC controllers, only the black one had symmetrical thumbsticks, while the purple one was asymmetrical, at least, that's what was displayed on the box. Why is that?
Not sure what you mean, they definitely make BladeGCs with symmetrical thumbsticks, in purple.
@@AdamKoralik The image on the purple BladeGC box has asymmetrical thumbsticks.
@@aaliguy9986 Like on their website or something?
Would these controllers work with *AntiMicro* on PC?
No idea.