I was working groundcrew at RAF Wildenrath at the time of the incident. It was usual to tape over the Phantom’s arming selector knob with yellow and black chequered tape to remind the numpties driving the aircraft that it was carrying “lives”. On this occasion the squadron stores had run out of tape. It was that simple.
Surely the Nav should of checked with the pilot before hitting the fire button even in a simulated attack. Yee ha Jester’s dead became Mav armed the missile system and Goose has an over developed trigger finger. lol
I was twelve years at the time of the incident. I still can remember the vast autoumn maneuvers performed annually by Nato troops in my country. Operating with weapon systems is no joke, even when excercising. Damage will be done to nature, personal property and to limb and life as well. Gladly, physical damage was minimal in this incident, we all know, that this wasn't the case everywhere else. Was it worth it? My personal answer: Hell yes, it was! There is always a price to pay if stay vigilant, but the price you have to pay if you don't is tremendiously higher. Is the service of those guys underappreciated? Unfortunatly that's a yes, too. So here is a belated thank you to those troops staying vigilant in a foreign country.
I was lucky enough to serve two years 1982 to 84, at Rammstein airbase West Germany,the best experience in my life,lived off base in the town of Machenbach, Thank you to the German people
OVER HERE! l lived there for 3 years in the mid 60s just after the whole “Bay of Pigs” thanks to my Dad being in the USAF - it was fun - but my Dad sure got called in many, many times due to alerts - we missed a trip on the Rhine River - because we had to pull off the streets for a column of M-60 tanks on the move for a combat exercise
This brought to mind the several times I've seen movie aircraft engaged in an elaborate and protracted evasion of an enemy air-to-air missile. As Mark says, "The first Griggs knew about the Sidewinder's launch was a massive explosion..." At Mach 2.7, those things are much faster than most people appreciate.
I remember this well. I was busy doing research for an MSc on 'Actions not as Planned', which was subsequently used in the Inquiry, mainly to show how 'fail-safe' procedures are sometimes neither fail safe nor procedures, but rather wishful thinking, subject to human error.
i was staying with my cousin in erkelenz,he was in the raf at wildenwrath,he came home that night all exited,"you'll never guess what happened today" he said, and the rest is history..:)
"....silhouette added beneath the cockpit as a kill." Gotta keep some level of humor when in the military or in either hot or cold war. Shame that those in Brass seem to lose it.
They really should've put that Phantom in a museum. It just goes to show the good-natured comradeship between pilots. Props to Griggs in his response. Bet the Phantom crew was never allowed to forget their friendly fire kill from their fellow pilots
These War Stories Were Unique From A Hawker Hunter To An Runaway Harrier And This A F-4 Phantom. Man Your Content Was Pretty Damn good.You Deserve More Than A Million Subs
American Titan Well we had no allies in the South Atlantic to help us make the major cause of death become blue on blue. So the RAF had to make a supreme effort in West Germany. Actually I think we at least managed to down one of our own Gazelles down south.
I lived in Roermond in 1972-3 and passed Bruggen every day on a RAF bus. Kids I went school with were from Wildenrath, Laarbruch and BAOR Rheindalen. Phantoms flew from Bruggen then.
I shouldn’t think there are very many pilots anywhere, who could claim to have ejected twice from the same type of aircraft. Many thanks for making and sharing.👏
I'm not sure if the regulations were more lax at that time but I know that modern RAF fast jet pilots have to take early retirement if they are forced to eject a certain number of times. This is due to the long term effects of spinal compression from successive ejections. I'd imagine two ejections so close to each other can't have been great for his health. Great video!
After each ejection they are medically evaluated. I recently read that after 2 ejections they will almost inevitably be transferred to non combat aircraft piloting that doesn’t involve high G force stress. I’m no expert, just what I read!
I believe it depends the mark of seat he ejected in and obviously his health subsequently. Later marks use rocket packs so the ejection is more gradual. I also believe that Steve was unlucky enough to eject a third time, I heard through the grapevine a few years later.
They say that when you eject with the force that a modern ejection seat puts out, that you’re an inch shorter in height. I used to think it was temporary compression of the spine, but it’s actually permanent. It makes sense when you consider it’s a 20 G kick in the ass that occurs in less than a second from pulling the handle to chute deployment.
I loved the "Jag Killer" and kill mark, but the Phantom crew should've been forced to carry a part of the Jag everywhere they went as a reminder, not a court-martial. Good laugh.
I arrived at Bruggen in ‘83 and this incident was well known in the RAF at the time. Upon entering a certain club on the base I saw that there were two profile paintings of an Wildenrath Phantom and a Bruggen Jag on one of the club walls. In the 6 foot gap between the two, someone had drawn and cut out a rather detailed image of a sidewinder on cardboard and stuck it on the wall between the relevant aircraft. I was told the two paintings were originally hung in the opposite order but it was too good a chance to miss so they swapped them around.
Fun part is that a college of mine was working at wildenrath tower when this happened. Great story and the Jag pilot felt sorry for the F4 crews punishment.
One has to wonder how many other things could have gone wrong if this had been a real attack from the east. The British sometimes had problems getting onto a war footing when the worst happened in the Falklands as well. The loss of HMS Sheffield showed this kind of confused thinking compared to the battle readiness of the captain and crew of her sistership, the HMS Glasgow, operating in the same task force. The Agave radar of the two Exocet carrying Argentine Super Etendards was detected at more than 40 miles out, and before the missile launch. As per policy, Glasgow sent out an urgent warning of the hostile aircraft to all ships of the task force over HF and UHF radio. The Sheffield's radio operators hadn't been monitoring the HF radio since that was a long range radio, and all ships of the task force were within 10 miles of each other. It never heard the UHF warning because Sheffield and HMS Coventry were carrying out idle chitchat on the UHF radio. The Sheffield's captain had decided that a submarine attack was the greatest threat and was zigzagging every 90 seconds, making the ship's radars less effective against an air threat. In addition to all this, the radar jamming transmitter on the Sheffield was non-functional All this confusion, failure to follow procedures, non-operative equipment, and general lack of situational awareness on May 25, 1982 caused the loss of an aircraft, and the loss of an irreplaceable destroyer and the deaths of 20 crew on May 4 of the same year.
How was the destroyer irreplaceable. Are there no shipyards in England. I would assume that if they built that destroyer, they could obviously build another to replace it. Was a really good comment up till that part.
I think Sar Jim meant irreplaceable during the conflict. HMS Sheffield was a major part of the fleet defence and I believe that as a result they sailed further out from the Falklands
@@shelbyseelbach9568 The original task force had five Type 42 destroyers. By the time Coventry went down on the 25th of May, Sheffield and Glasgow were also out of the picture, leaving two from the original five. As Uhuru Mkali pointed out, all of these vessels were vital components for the defence of the task force as a whole. By the way, although at the time there were shipyards in the UK, each destroyer took about five years to build.
@@greva2904 Well, same here in Germany.The "Bundeswehr" nowadays is such a big Disaster....so, looks like not only you Fellows got that Type of Problem.;-)
In the Gulf War that same Type 42 design managed to shoot down an Iraqi Slikworm ASM fired at USS Missouri after USS Jarrett engaged chaff fired by Missouri instead of the correct target. This action saved many US lives and was the first successful missile vs missile intercept in combat at sea. Learning hard lessons in combat is something Britain does extremely well and is a big reason why the British Army took relatively few casualties on D-Day after learning from both Gallipoli and Dieppe.
RAF aircrews always performed well in NATO exercises and USAF Red Flag events. Many of the USAF, USN, and USMC aircrew in exchange programs who flew with the RAF and RN squadrons for a year come back bragging about how well-trained the RAF and RN aircrews are. My cousin, who flew RF-4C Phantoms recon missions over North Vietnam in '71-'72, did an exchange program with the RAF and flew out of Flossimouth with the RAF flying the RAF Phantoms with the Spey engines for 12 months. The Spey engined Phantoms were a bit less powerful than the USAF RF-4C and F-4E with J79s, but they gave a bit more range due to lower fuel burn. The thing he iked best was the camaraderie of the squadron he was attached to. Apparently drinking was involved. ")
Wow what an interesting and enjoyable video. Incredible pilot error. Videos about the Falklands and Desert Storm (1991) please! Both are interesting conflicts to me.
I remember as a kid in the 70's the roar of the Phantom, I lived a mile form the Fresno ca airport and they had a Air national guard unit detailed there. They were really loud!
Wow! I never heard about this incident! I was actually in London and West Germany on tour with my college choir that spring during the Falklands War. We stayed in the homes of members of the churches at which we were presenting concerts. All we talked about (in terms of military) was the war in the Falklands; this incident never even made the news (at least to my knowledge). Great story! And the court martial was totally necessary; the Jaguar pilot easily could have been killed, not to mention the unnecessary loss of an expensive aircraft and danger of civilian casualties on the ground.
I feel really lucky being brought up in RAF at this time. My Dad was stationed at RAF Bruggen while the Jaguars were there. Then posted to Waddington with the Vulcans. Growing up with the sound of jet engines all the time was special, and being posted to non air operational camps just wasn't the same.
The top brass need to get their heads out of their rear. At least no one died and the RAF learned that a series of mistakes and failures can lead to the impossible. thanks for sharing.
I heard a story about a B-52 pilot pulling a hard sustained turn. The navigator who was older and more experienced yelled "For Christ sake ROLL OUT!" (meaning level up). The tail gunner thought that the Nav said "BAIL OUT" so he ejected. The rest of the crew saw the ejection alarm go off and thought "the tail gunner must know something we don't". So they all ejected too. Only upon comparing notes later did they learn their error............
It's Fourteen Squadron and Ninety Two Squadron.... also it's Royal Air Force Wildenrath (Vil-den-rath)... sorry to be pedantic but 32 years service in the Royal Air Force Reserve does that😉
Thx Mark Felton i remember this incident well. I always loved seeing Phantom FGR 2, Jaguar and Buccaneers flying extrem low during exercises/manouvres in my Region the Solling Hills in southern lower saxony in the 70`s/ 80`s , when i was around 18 one FGR 2 crashed a few Kilometer away in the Weser Valley near Höxter anotherone a USAF F-4D crashed a few years later in early 80`s near Neuhaus in the central Solling Region
One again great video Mr Felton, Why don't you come forward as the author of the Pen & Sword series. It may improve your book sales., Truth be told I only read The Last Nazis and Ghost Riders. But they were of excellent quality and depth. My respect as a fellow historian and a Captain of the Royal Dutch Army (ret)
"the Phantom crew attendin the resultant piss up!" Made me crease up, especially with your very official sounding voice. I thought this was a period newsreporter until you said "Like and subscribe"
When I was growing up, my neighbor was a former aircraft carrier captain and phantom pilot. He was in an F4 Phantom when it suffered a catastrophic engine failure off the coast of California and he was forced to eject into a school of dolphins. When he was on his way down, he could only see fins above the water and presumed they were sharks. Despite the accident he said that he loved the Phantom and thought it was a great plane
The good news: Both Ejection Seat and Sidewinder are now proven to work as intended.
The bad news: Well...
Jaguar: member of the cat family.
Main feature: Pilot has 9 lives.
I was working groundcrew at RAF Wildenrath at the time of the incident. It was usual to tape over the Phantom’s arming selector knob with yellow and black chequered tape to remind the numpties driving the aircraft that it was carrying “lives”. On this occasion the squadron stores had run out of tape. It was that simple.
Surely the Nav should of checked with the pilot before hitting the fire button even in a simulated attack.
Yee ha Jester’s dead became Mav armed the missile system and Goose has an over developed trigger finger.
lol
I found it really funny that they added it to the plane as a kill!
Imagine the pucker factor as that Sidewinder launched... unreal.
"fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck" is what I would like imagine what both parties would say
"Dr Strangelove". oops.
"phantom one to control, we have a code brown situation"
G.H.T. ‘You can’t fight in the War Room!’
After nearly dying from an errant missile, the two pilots go have pint in the pub together. Gotta love the Brits!
"The Phantom Crew attending the resultant piss up"
Mark Felton, 2019
"I think it's a brilliant, brilliant design because it's a Jaaag."
- Jeremy Clarkson
I didn't read it, I heard it.
Sorry its Jaaaag, Clarkson said so.
I was twelve years at the time of the incident. I still can remember the vast autoumn maneuvers performed annually by Nato troops in my country.
Operating with weapon systems is no joke, even when excercising. Damage will be done to nature, personal property and to limb and life as well.
Gladly, physical damage was minimal in this incident, we all know, that this wasn't the case everywhere else.
Was it worth it? My personal answer: Hell yes, it was! There is always a price to pay if stay vigilant, but the price you have to pay if you don't is tremendiously higher.
Is the service of those guys underappreciated? Unfortunatly that's a yes, too. So here is a belated thank you to those troops staying vigilant in a foreign country.
@@Schugger1 i was one of those troops, i served with the 11 th cav in Fulda. The Reforger excercises were a lot of fun.
I was in the RAF in Germany when this happened. I don’t recall anyone feeling that the Phantom crew deserved a Court Martial.
Love how a kill was painted on the side and a barrel of beer sent to the pilots.
"Griggs had no hard feelings for the crew of the Phantom". How Brittish of him.
"Sorry, I didn't know it was loaded"
"Shut up carl"
The Phantom was a handsome plane.
I was lucky enough to serve two years 1982 to 84, at Rammstein airbase West Germany,the best experience in my life,lived off base in the town of Machenbach,
Thank you to the German people
OVER HERE! l lived there for 3 years in the mid 60s just after the whole “Bay of Pigs” thanks to my Dad being in the USAF - it was fun - but my Dad sure got called in many, many times due to alerts - we missed a trip on the Rhine River - because we had to pull off the streets for a column of M-60 tanks on the move for a combat exercise
@@markholm6955 - That was '62....when the cold war was hotter than ever !
I was just down the Autobahn from you about that same time. Neubrucke Kaserne.(Baumholder)
That poor Phantom deserved to have been saved from scrapping
I remember that to make an ejection from an aircraft was jokingly called " to jettison airframe " .
It's the little details which makes these stories great
This channel is an awesome source of brilliant snippets of history that would be otherwise buried and forgotten.
This brought to mind the several times I've seen movie aircraft engaged in an elaborate and protracted evasion of an enemy air-to-air missile. As Mark says, "The first Griggs knew about the Sidewinder's launch was a massive explosion..." At Mach 2.7, those things are much faster than most people appreciate.
Another great video! Much appreciated, mark.
I just can't get enough of these video's! Thank you Mr. Felton
This incident reminds me of the last words my father ever said to me: "Stop, son! That pistol's loaded."
I remember this well. I was busy doing research for an MSc on 'Actions not as Planned', which was subsequently used in the Inquiry, mainly to show how 'fail-safe' procedures are sometimes neither fail safe nor procedures, but rather wishful thinking, subject to human error.
i was staying with my cousin in erkelenz,he was in the raf at wildenwrath,he came home that night all exited,"you'll never guess what happened today" he said, and the rest is history..:)
"....silhouette added beneath the cockpit as a kill."
Gotta keep some level of humor when in the military or in either hot or cold war. Shame that those in Brass seem to lose it.
They really should've put that Phantom in a museum. It just goes to show the good-natured comradeship between pilots. Props to Griggs in his response. Bet the Phantom crew was never allowed to forget their friendly fire kill from their fellow pilots
These War Stories Were Unique From A Hawker Hunter To An Runaway Harrier And This A F-4 Phantom. Man Your Content Was Pretty Damn good.You Deserve More Than A Million Subs
Friendly Fire was on!
One of Murphy's Laws of Combat: Friendly fire isn't friendly.
American Titan Well we had no allies in the South Atlantic to help us make the major cause of death become blue on blue. So the RAF had to make a supreme effort in West Germany. Actually I think we at least managed to down one of our own Gazelles down south.
When I googled "friendly fire" I got a rather different sort of video LOL!!!
Ok seriously. How have I never heard of this incident. Your channel is awesome sir.
Fantastic as always mark! Keep up the good work
The phantom crew attending the resultant piss up ; Ah! men of my own heart . Thank you Dr Felton
I lived in Roermond in 1972-3 and passed Bruggen every day on a RAF bus. Kids I went school with were from Wildenrath, Laarbruch and BAOR Rheindalen. Phantoms flew from Bruggen then.
I shouldn’t think there are very many pilots anywhere, who could claim to have ejected twice from the same type of aircraft. Many thanks for making and sharing.👏
I really appreciate what you do Mark. Keep up the quality content
He Jigged when he should have jagged
Another enjoyable tidbit of history...Thanks for sharing Mark Felton
I'm not sure if the regulations were more lax at that time but I know that modern RAF fast jet pilots have to take early retirement if they are forced to eject a certain number of times. This is due to the long term effects of spinal compression from successive ejections. I'd imagine two ejections so close to each other can't have been great for his health. Great video!
There is a special club they join if I remember correctly.
WhatWouldYouHaveYourArbiterDo perhaps the outside of the body is fine, but the brain and organs are reduced to mere goo.
After each ejection they are medically evaluated. I recently read that after 2 ejections they will almost inevitably be transferred to non combat aircraft piloting that doesn’t involve high G force stress. I’m no expert, just what I read!
I believe it depends the mark of seat he ejected in and obviously his health subsequently. Later marks use rocket packs so the ejection is more gradual. I also believe that Steve was unlucky enough to eject a third time, I heard through the grapevine a few years later.
They say that when you eject with the force that a modern ejection seat puts out, that you’re an inch shorter in height. I used to think it was temporary compression of the spine, but it’s actually permanent. It makes sense when you consider it’s a 20 G kick in the ass that occurs in less than a second from pulling the handle to chute deployment.
I loved the "Jag Killer" and kill mark, but the Phantom crew should've been forced to carry a part of the Jag everywhere they went as a reminder, not a court-martial. Good laugh.
Always a pleasure to watch your first-class work. Many thanks, Mark Felton!
love your work. very high quality and bite sized chunks. ideal for when i have a few mins to spare.
I arrived at Bruggen in ‘83 and this incident was well known in the RAF at the time. Upon entering a certain club on the base I saw that there were two profile paintings of an Wildenrath Phantom and a Bruggen Jag on one of the club walls. In the 6 foot gap between the two, someone had drawn and cut out a rather detailed image of a sidewinder on cardboard and stuck it on the wall between the relevant aircraft. I was told the two paintings were originally hung in the opposite order but it was too good a chance to miss so they swapped them around.
As always, a great look into our past. Keep up the good work Mark.
Good job they didn't accidently drop a tactical nuke!
The Phantom is the coolest jet of the cold war.
Daddy Felton produces nothing but quality content, im glad I subscribed.
The Top Brass have absolutely no sense of humour, its all numbers and PR to them.
Thanks Mark, yet again another exciting story👍
Just found this channel, suffice to say : subbed!
your subscriber base is growing well done.keep up the good work mark.
Fun part is that a college of mine was working at wildenrath tower when this happened. Great story and the Jag pilot felt sorry for the F4 crews punishment.
You own a college? And you put it to work? You're a bad ass, Man. I don't even own a high school.
Absolutely brilliant little docs! Thanks for posting sharing with my ex forces & military history enthusiast chums! 😊👍
I thought this was going to be a video about a Rolls Royce Phantom racing a Jaguar!
Loved the video and ease on the ears narration of the incident... Great video and edits
One has to wonder how many other things could have gone wrong if this had been a real attack from the east.
The British sometimes had problems getting onto a war footing when the worst happened in the Falklands as well. The loss of HMS Sheffield showed this kind of confused thinking compared to the battle readiness of the captain and crew of her sistership, the HMS Glasgow, operating in the same task force. The Agave radar of the two Exocet carrying Argentine Super Etendards was detected at more than 40 miles out, and before the missile launch. As per policy, Glasgow sent out an urgent warning of the hostile aircraft to all ships of the task force over HF and UHF radio. The Sheffield's radio operators hadn't been monitoring the HF radio since that was a long range radio, and all ships of the task force were within 10 miles of each other. It never heard the UHF warning because Sheffield and HMS Coventry were carrying out idle chitchat on the UHF radio. The Sheffield's captain had decided that a submarine attack was the greatest threat and was zigzagging every 90 seconds, making the ship's radars less effective against an air threat. In addition to all this, the radar jamming transmitter on the Sheffield was non-functional All this confusion, failure to follow procedures, non-operative equipment, and general lack of situational awareness on May 25, 1982 caused the loss of an aircraft, and the loss of an irreplaceable destroyer and the deaths of 20 crew on May 4 of the same year.
How was the destroyer irreplaceable. Are there no shipyards in England. I would assume that if they built that destroyer, they could obviously build another to replace it. Was a really good comment up till that part.
I think Sar Jim meant irreplaceable during the conflict. HMS Sheffield was a major part of the fleet defence and I believe that as a result they sailed further out from the Falklands
@@shelbyseelbach9568 The original task force had five Type 42 destroyers. By the time Coventry went down on the 25th of May, Sheffield and Glasgow were also out of the picture, leaving two from the original five. As
Uhuru Mkali pointed out, all of these vessels were vital components for the defence of the task force as a whole. By the way, although at the time there were shipyards in the UK, each destroyer took about five years to build.
@@greva2904 Well, same here in Germany.The "Bundeswehr" nowadays is such a big Disaster....so, looks like not only you Fellows got that Type of Problem.;-)
In the Gulf War that same Type 42 design managed to shoot down an Iraqi Slikworm ASM fired at USS Missouri after USS Jarrett engaged chaff fired by Missouri instead of the correct target. This action saved many US lives and was the first successful missile vs missile intercept in combat at sea. Learning hard lessons in combat is something Britain does extremely well and is a big reason why the British Army took relatively few casualties on D-Day after learning from both Gallipoli and Dieppe.
Love your Channel Mark, hope you make many more videos.
So that's two ties from Martin-Baker. Well done.
Right, numerous mistakes were made let's make an example of the pilot.
RAF aircrews always performed well in NATO exercises and USAF Red Flag events. Many of the USAF, USN, and USMC aircrew in exchange programs who flew with the RAF and RN squadrons for a year come back bragging about how well-trained the RAF and RN aircrews are. My cousin, who flew RF-4C Phantoms recon missions over North Vietnam in '71-'72, did an exchange program with the RAF and flew out of Flossimouth with the RAF flying the RAF Phantoms with the Spey engines for 12 months. The Spey engined Phantoms were a bit less powerful than the USAF RF-4C and F-4E with J79s, but they gave a bit more range due to lower fuel burn. The thing he iked best was the camaraderie of the squadron he was attached to. Apparently drinking was involved. ")
Royal Air Force!
Honour in military as the allie in operational to the British military.
So if you eject twice do you get to paint a little "man in a parachute" image on the side of your plane? :-)
He most probably has 2 Martin baker ties now
You can paint on what’s left of your plane xD
Wow what an interesting and enjoyable video. Incredible pilot error. Videos about the Falklands and Desert Storm (1991) please! Both are interesting conflicts to me.
Holy crap...I knew NOTHING of this. Brilliant story...thank you, very much for this.
well, at least it shows the missile worked...
I love this stuff. Not many folks post content like you. Love from Canada.
Lovely aircraft the ole Jag. I served with them in Coltishall. 54, 54f and was even in Bruggen as well (Tonka's)
Another forgotten story brought back. Interesting as always👍 Love the Jaguar.
The Russians were probably thinking...….."With friends like Phantoms, who needs MiGs?"
I remember as a kid in the 70's the roar of the Phantom, I lived a mile form the Fresno ca airport and they had a Air national guard unit detailed there. They were really loud!
That moment you realize that you fired a live missile at a friend by mistake...
Wow! I never heard about this incident! I was actually in London and West Germany on tour with my college choir that spring during the Falklands War. We stayed in the homes of members of the churches at which we were presenting concerts. All we talked about (in terms of military) was the war in the Falklands; this incident never even made the news (at least to my knowledge). Great story! And the court martial was totally necessary; the Jaguar pilot easily could have been killed, not to mention the unnecessary loss of an expensive aircraft and danger of civilian casualties on the ground.
What a hell of a story! I am completly stunned on this story.
Great video as always!
Highly underrated channel.
This is by far the most intelligent channel on RUclips
Really enjoying your channel , keep up the great work 👍👍👍
I feel really lucky being brought up in RAF at this time. My Dad was stationed at RAF Bruggen while the Jaguars were there. Then posted to Waddington with the Vulcans. Growing up with the sound of jet engines all the time was special, and being posted to non air operational camps just wasn't the same.
Great video! Didn't know of this incident.
Thanks for another great story.
Loved the video, I had several friends who flew the “flying brick” into North Vietnam
The phantom is my favorite jet ^_^ thanks for doing this
Great stuff, as always!
THANKS MARK F 👌👍
As always, well done, sir. Nice Video.
The top brass need to get their heads out of their rear. At least no one died and the RAF learned that a series of mistakes and failures can lead to the impossible. thanks for sharing.
Awesome video Mark, your content is amazing.
Very informative and entertaining. Thank you.
I heard a story about a B-52 pilot pulling a hard sustained turn. The navigator who was older and more experienced yelled "For Christ sake ROLL OUT!" (meaning level up). The tail gunner thought that the Nav said "BAIL OUT" so he ejected. The rest of the crew saw the ejection alarm go off and thought "the tail gunner must know something we don't". So they all ejected too. Only upon comparing notes later did they learn their error............
I did enjoy that Mark, thanks for asking.
I love your channel and content Mark.
Wow these are great vids, this is why checklists are so important in aviation haha, Im glad they all survived.
I spent a week at Bruggen back in the 70's when they first got the Phantoms, This was when I was an ATC cadet.
They also had Lightnings.
Brilliant, previously unknown (to me) story as always Mark. Thank you.
It's Fourteen Squadron and Ninety Two Squadron.... also it's Royal Air Force Wildenrath (Vil-den-rath)... sorry to be pedantic but 32 years service in the Royal Air Force Reserve does that😉
What a story. You got a new subscriber.
Thx Mark Felton i remember this incident well.
I always loved seeing Phantom FGR 2, Jaguar and Buccaneers flying extrem low during exercises/manouvres in my Region the Solling Hills in southern lower saxony in the 70`s/ 80`s , when i was around 18 one FGR 2 crashed a few Kilometer away in the Weser Valley near Höxter anotherone a USAF F-4D crashed a few years later in early 80`s near Neuhaus in the central Solling Region
One again great video Mr Felton, Why don't you come forward as the author of the Pen & Sword series. It may improve your book sales., Truth be told I only read The Last Nazis and Ghost Riders. But they were of excellent quality and depth. My respect as a fellow historian and a Captain of the Royal Dutch Army (ret)
Argentina proves that training and fighting spirit makes any aircraft deadly they didn't back down from the British
"the Phantom crew attendin the resultant piss up!" Made me crease up, especially with your very official sounding voice. I thought this was a period newsreporter until you said "Like and subscribe"
When I was growing up, my neighbor was a former aircraft carrier captain and phantom pilot. He was in an F4 Phantom when it suffered a catastrophic engine failure off the coast of California and he was forced to eject into a school of dolphins. When he was on his way down, he could only see fins above the water and presumed they were sharks. Despite the accident he said that he loved the Phantom and thought it was a great plane
Truly fascinating I've enjoyed avaition since I was young but you never disappoint
Just imagine the feeling of PURE DREAD when he heard the sidewinder drop and launch towards his comrade.
Thats one favour that can never be repaid