Just stubbled onto your channel. I work as a writer, based in Europe and repped in L.A - I have to say managers & Agents are difficult. They blow hot and cold, they're super exctied and talk to you all the time or there's nothing... until you're flavour of the month again. I'm repped by top 10 Agency and I haven't signed a contract and someone who I write for (A well known director) hasn't signed a contract with them either. Just to say - I have faith in you, to keep writing and then finding the true person who can be you advocate.
Truly, truly supremely valuable information and insight from an experience very few are able to hear about. Thank you so so much my friend. And bless every future endeavor you’re involved with. Amen.
Hey man just discovered your channel. Fantastic stuff. Thank you for being so honest and transparent with your process. As a struggling aspiring screenwritier myself, hearing you tell your story is ASMR for me. Thanks and good luck with your endeavors.
Tweeting about "Living my best life in Europe." Reminds me of the lesson I learned from my first manager. You don't want a rep who has no financial need to make money off you. Why should they hustle to get you work when they don't need your measly 10%? Anyone trying to get their foot in the door needs to find a yep as hungry as they are. Cheers.
You’re absolutely right! I worked with this person because I thought they truly believed in me. Guess that wasn’t the case after all. Lesson definitely learned! Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers!
I definitely feel with you after hearing this... Since I’m a screenwriter from Europe, I would much prefer to video chat with a potential manager than to call by phone. Hopefully I can get a better impression of the manager by seeing them as we talk. I’ll take with me from your experience that we screenwriters are *definitely* in the right to pose critical questions and make certain demands for our own protection. P.S. Cool that you’re a fan of Film Courage! 🥳
We absolutely have to keep our best interests in mind. It’s a bit disheartening that we have to take such extra precautions when dealing with the very people who are supposed to be doing just that! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Film Courage is the best! 😁🙌🏾
Dope vid brother! And I’m not just sayin that bc of the shout out. 😂 Which I hella appreciate brother! You know I think you have your head perfectly in tune-which is literally EVERYTHING. Bro let’s jump on a call soon to shoot the breeze, at your convenience. 😎🤙🏾 After watching this vid yeah my last vid deals with exactly this. You made the right choice to not respond. *To new writers. Promise you. Jay Fingers is a dude you should definitely follow/subscribe. He “gets it” in a way most new writers don’t.
Haha, thanks, man. I appreciate you watching and commenting, and I definitely appreciate the vote of confidence in me. I'm absolutely open to a call sometime. I'll DM you. ✊🏾
Thanks for sharing your experience. I guarantee if you had sold something during that time, that ghost would've materialized to ask for whatever percentage he thought he was entitled to 🤣 I bet there's a lot of "managers" out there who sort of collect emerging writers just for that purpose. All the best to you. Your channel seems cool af.
Hey Jay... totally understand your frustration but, as a musician/writer, no matter how talented you are, there are no guarantees in any of the creative arts. I work with incredible bands and musicians who can't make a living doing their art. But we all continue doing it anyway because one really has to love the art form implicitly, otherwise it's really just a means to an end. I know people who are doing alright out of their music but are still complaining! Personally, I admire artists who are OK with their failure because, hopefully, the little victories we gain along the way can be enough. Always try to celebrate the small victories. Hang in there bro!
You just have to keep going. It’s so easy to get angry and discouraged because this is such an obscure industry at times. This manager should not have led you on, but it was not a year wasted-It sounds like you’ve put in a lot of work developing projects during this period of time. You sound like a very smart, and experienced writer… so just KEEP SWINGING. Like you said, there’s so many mediocre writers that are repped, that forces me to believe that it’s not the most talented people who make it, it’s the most TENACIOUS.
I know you might say, “Meh” to this. The agent might not be big but we have to let them know that YOU are BIG. Agent you don’t have a contract no problem. I have one and it’s for both of our protection. In fact once you see my work you will want to be attached to me before the money comes.
Hang in there. Your time will come at the right moment. Your ex-manager will be sorry he did you wrong! Sounds like he was definitely not trust worthy. Don't give up.
Jay, insightful video that I am glad I watched. But I had to watch it at 1.5x speed in order to get to the value before completely losing interest. I've not seen other content of yours - and regardless of my appreciation of this video's lesson - I don't expect to seek any on purpose. The pace of your anecdote is just too plodding to risk wasting my time when another source can deliver its value in a more-efficient timeframe. I hope I'm not coming off as some attention-deficit twitchy nut. My intent is simply food for thought; not a trolling or neg just to be an ass. Plenty of that without me adding grief. So circling back in order to end on a positive note: Your message here has value and I appreciate being able to add its insight to my own endeavors. Cheers
Writers gotta stop jumping through hoops like circus animals. The biggest myth screenwriters have accepted is the myth that they need a manager. Prior to the late 90s writers having managers was barely a thing and the industry ran much better and content was better imo. Managers treat their own time as precious and writers’ time as worthless. There is no excuse for writers not to make their own projects in this day and age unless they want to workin tv, in which case those writers should focus on the tv fellowship programs.
You’re 💯 percent correct, Marlon. IMO managers just make it easier to break in since they supposedly have the connections already. And really, all that’s needed to break in is that one advocate. But you’re right, it’s easier now more than ever to create a project and get yourself out there. That’s something I’m definitely working on. Thanks for commenting! ✊🏾
There's a difference between being rejected and being ghosted and then dropped by the person who's supposed to be your advocate in the industry. 😭😭😭 But I understand and appreciate the sentiment. Thanks. 🙏🏾
20:45 welcome to Hollywood again! This is why it’s best to move on before getting dropped. Which you took the step to get clarification. Too easy to get lost in the sauce. These LA Agents are paid commission and their mind is on whatever is paying. So you were hippocketed and then he just forgot to give you love. Good to be proactive and move on instead of being moved ON.
I don’t think you can be just a writer Now a days. Jim Cummings got a 4 on the black list. Croudfunded the film and won Sundance. Maybe try producing your own films and grow your own audience.
Bro… get in contact with me. All of this is not in vain. I have a premiere on Saturday the 29th at TCL theater. I want to talk to you. My Doc is everything you need to see right now. Either way we need to chop it up. But destined for greatness. Use this.
I'm definitely down to link up and chat. Thanks for the words of encouragement. They mean a great deal. I'll hit you up and see about coming out on the 29th. Cheers, brother! ✊🏾
Just stubbled onto your channel. I work as a writer, based in Europe and repped in L.A - I have to say managers & Agents are difficult. They blow hot and cold, they're super exctied and talk to you all the time or there's nothing... until you're flavour of the month again. I'm repped by top 10 Agency and I haven't signed a contract and someone who I write for (A well known director) hasn't signed a contract with them either.
Just to say - I have faith in you, to keep writing and then finding the true person who can be you advocate.
Truly, truly supremely valuable information and insight from an experience very few are able to hear about. Thank you so so much my friend. And bless every future endeavor you’re involved with. Amen.
Hey man just discovered your channel. Fantastic stuff. Thank you for being so honest and transparent with your process. As a struggling aspiring screenwritier myself, hearing you tell your story is ASMR for me. Thanks and good luck with your endeavors.
Tweeting about "Living my best life in Europe." Reminds me of the lesson I learned from my first manager. You don't want a rep who has no financial need to make money off you. Why should they hustle to get you work when they don't need your measly 10%? Anyone trying to get their foot in the door needs to find a yep as hungry as they are. Cheers.
You’re absolutely right! I worked with this person because I thought they truly believed in me. Guess that wasn’t the case after all. Lesson definitely learned! Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers!
I felt this. You got this. Try to stay positive
Thanks, Fab. 🙏🏾❤️
I definitely feel with you after hearing this... Since I’m a screenwriter from Europe, I would much prefer to video chat with a potential manager than to call by phone. Hopefully I can get a better impression of the manager by seeing them as we talk.
I’ll take with me from your experience that we screenwriters are *definitely* in the right to pose critical questions and make certain demands for our own protection.
P.S. Cool that you’re a fan of Film Courage! 🥳
We absolutely have to keep our best interests in mind. It’s a bit disheartening that we have to take such extra precautions when dealing with the very people who are supposed to be doing just that! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Film Courage is the best! 😁🙌🏾
Dope vid brother! And I’m not just sayin that bc of the shout out. 😂 Which I hella appreciate brother! You know I think you have your head perfectly in tune-which is literally EVERYTHING. Bro let’s jump on a call soon to shoot the breeze, at your convenience. 😎🤙🏾
After watching this vid yeah my last vid deals with exactly this. You made the right choice to not respond.
*To new writers. Promise you. Jay Fingers is a dude you should definitely follow/subscribe. He “gets it” in a way most new writers don’t.
Haha, thanks, man. I appreciate you watching and commenting, and I definitely appreciate the vote of confidence in me. I'm absolutely open to a call sometime. I'll DM you. ✊🏾
Felt that. Push past, and keep at it. You are getting there!
I certainly hope so! 😅 Thanks!
Jay, man, I feel for you, sir. Keep doin’ you.
Thanks, Rick! Much appreciated. 🙏🏾
Thanks for sharing -- knowing helps.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for sharing your experience. I guarantee if you had sold something during that time, that ghost would've materialized to ask for whatever percentage he thought he was entitled to 🤣 I bet there's a lot of "managers" out there who sort of collect emerging writers just for that purpose.
All the best to you. Your channel seems cool af.
Thanks for putting this out there; good luck!!
Thanks so much! Appreciate you watching and commenting!
Hey Jay... totally understand your frustration but, as a musician/writer, no matter how talented you are, there are no guarantees in any of the creative arts. I work with incredible bands and musicians who can't make a living doing their art. But we all continue doing it anyway because one really has to love the art form implicitly, otherwise it's really just a means to an end. I know people who are doing alright out of their music but are still complaining! Personally, I admire artists who are OK with their failure because, hopefully, the little victories we gain along the way can be enough. Always try to celebrate the small victories. Hang in there bro!
You just have to keep going. It’s so easy to get angry and discouraged because this is such an obscure industry at times. This manager should not have led you on, but it was not a year wasted-It sounds like you’ve put in a lot of work developing projects during this period of time. You sound like a very smart, and experienced writer… so just KEEP SWINGING. Like you said, there’s so many mediocre writers that are repped, that forces me to believe that it’s not the most talented people who make it, it’s the most TENACIOUS.
I know you might say, “Meh” to this. The agent might not be big but we have to let them know that YOU are BIG. Agent you don’t have a contract no problem. I have one and it’s for both of our protection. In fact once you see my work you will want to be attached to me before the money comes.
Hang in there. Your time will come at the right moment. Your ex-manager will be sorry he did you wrong! Sounds like he was definitely not trust worthy. Don't give up.
My theme song for agents and managers “These hoes ain’t loyal.”
Jay, insightful video that I am glad I watched.
But I had to watch it at 1.5x speed in order to get to the value before completely losing interest.
I've not seen other content of yours - and regardless of my appreciation of this video's lesson - I don't expect to seek any on purpose. The pace of your anecdote is just too plodding to risk wasting my time when another source can deliver its value in a more-efficient timeframe.
I hope I'm not coming off as some attention-deficit twitchy nut. My intent is simply food for thought; not a trolling or neg just to be an ass. Plenty of that without me adding grief.
So circling back in order to end on a positive note: Your message here has value and I appreciate being able to add its insight to my own endeavors.
Cheers
Classic example of a shit sandwich, Cody. 😆
@@JayFingers Okay now I'm hungry. 😏👍
🤣🤣🤣 You’re OK with me, man. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.
Good shit dude.
😅🙏🏾
Fingers crossed you land an agent who can really help you get your work out into the world. 🤞🏼
I truly appreciate this. Thank you. 🙏🏾
Writers gotta stop jumping through hoops like circus animals. The biggest myth screenwriters have accepted is the myth that they need a manager. Prior to the late 90s writers having managers was barely a thing and the industry ran much better and content was better imo. Managers treat their own time as precious and writers’ time as worthless. There is no excuse for writers not to make their own projects in this day and age unless they want to workin tv, in which case those writers should focus on the tv fellowship programs.
You’re 💯 percent correct, Marlon. IMO managers just make it easier to break in since they supposedly have the connections already. And really, all that’s needed to break in is that one advocate. But you’re right, it’s easier now more than ever to create a project and get yourself out there. That’s something I’m definitely working on. Thanks for commenting! ✊🏾
@@JayFingers Keep up the good work!
They say you have to get really used to rejection... hope you find your place soon.
There's a difference between being rejected and being ghosted and then dropped by the person who's supposed to be your advocate in the industry. 😭😭😭 But I understand and appreciate the sentiment. Thanks. 🙏🏾
18:05 Welcome to Hollywood.
20:00 welcome to Hollywood again, lol.
20:45 welcome to Hollywood again! This is why it’s best to move on before getting dropped. Which you took the step to get clarification. Too easy to get lost in the sauce. These LA Agents are paid commission and their mind is on whatever is paying. So you were hippocketed and then he just forgot to give you love. Good to be proactive and move on instead of being moved ON.
I don’t think you can be just a writer Now a days.
Jim Cummings got a 4 on the black list. Croudfunded the film and won Sundance.
Maybe try producing your own films and grow your own audience.
If you watch some of my other videos, you’ll see that is a goal I’ve talked about.
@@JayFingers first time watcher here. Look forward to seeing that. Im doing the same but from here in Japan. Hope to collab in the future.
Fo sho! Appreciate the views and comments. And definitely open to collaboration. I’m ready to work and get our voices heard. 🙌🏾🙏🏾
Bro… get in contact with me. All of this is not in vain. I have a premiere on Saturday the 29th at TCL theater. I want to talk to you. My Doc is everything you need to see right now. Either way we need to chop it up.
But destined for greatness.
Use this.
*you are destined for greatness
I'm definitely down to link up and chat. Thanks for the words of encouragement. They mean a great deal. I'll hit you up and see about coming out on the 29th. Cheers, brother! ✊🏾
@@JayFingers TCL Chinese Theatre 2:30 pm
Nice! Thanks! I will try my best to attend.