Thanks for pointing out to us about the moon guys. The nature of how we do these reactions, we're gonna miss a few details every once in awhile. Thanks for watching! - Eric
Blind Wave Haha, glad you guys answered all the comments, but even if this is pinned at the top, in week I'm sure the comments will flood again with more people pointing it out.
As many times as I've seen this show I never even noticed the moon. I never put much thought into it thinking that she was just that good but this makes it so much better.
This episode is one of my favorites.The darker story of Katara who is normally a kind, motherly figure, the continued redemption of Zuko as well as him representing a different philosophy from Aang. The ending where Aang preaches a more cliche moral forgiveness and Katara injects a more human perspective, choosing never to forgive but not to let it bind her is so freakin wonderful.
Now that this episode is up, I can finally talk about this. Here's a little theory I thought of and I wanna hear you and others thoughts on it. After watching The Southern Raiders one day, I started thinking, "Why did Yon Rha kill Kya while in the past, all other water benders were taken away? It's obvious he was following orders given to him by the Fire Nation, but why receive these orders instead of taking her away? And there was only one reason why...Hama. Remember, Hama was the last of the water benders captured by the Fire Nation before the Southern Raiders. And as we all know, while in prison, Hama invented Blood Bending and used it to escape. So, after her escape, the Fire Nation become aware of how powerful and how dangerous water benders can truly be. And with the discovery of one water bender left in the Southern Water Tribe, the Fire Nation are not willing to take the chance of creating another Hama, they decide to order Yon Rha to kill the Last Waterbender. So if Hama did not create Blood Bending to escape her prison, there wouldn't have been a reason for the Fire Nation to raid the Southern Water Tribe and kill the last water bender. She may have just been sent to prison as well. So Hama is the reason Kya had to sacrifice herself to save Katara. So it makes the scene of Katara telling Hama that she and Sokka lost their mother in a raid well...dark. And to think, Katara uses the same technique on the man she thought killed her mother. It's actually kind of a twisted theory. Thoughts?
i always thought that they were just looking for the avatar tbh cause his last life was in the southern air temple, so I thought that they assumed they he would brought back in the Southern water tribe( probably not but I always just didn't want to throw that theory out the window so soon
Could be, never hade such deep thoughts since I saw ATLA the last time when I was 12. Hama surely broke out before Sokka and Katara were even born, since she look young in her flashbacks. But how did the fire nation get the information of another waterbender? Katara was really young possibly 5 years and probably never bend in her lifetime. How should the fire nation know about a bender if they did not even patroled there (which would be wasting of resources).
It's a common theory that's kind of accepted at this point. The theory being that once Roku died Sozin knew the next avatar would be born an air bender. Sozin knew that the avatar born in another nation would always be an obstacle in the fire nation takeover of the world. His plan was to either capture the avatar and hold him as prisoner for as long as the avatar was alive or kill him in each of the cycles air, water, and earth. Until the avatar came back to the fire nation. Sozin believed that a natural born fire nation Avatar could be molded into his belief. Sozin knew this plan would probably never be finished in his lifetime since he had to kill 3 avatars in 3 different cultures, so he first invaded the air nomads to either capture or kill the avatar whichever was easier. After failing to capture or confirm the killing of the avatar, Sozin assumed he mustve died in one of the raids and moved on to attack water tribes. Unfortunately for Sozin he was getting old and died. His son Azulon took over his legacy and kept targeting water tribes in the hunt for the avatar. They knew their forces weren't strong enough to invade the northern tribe so they just hoped the avatar was born in the south. They captured every waterbender and tested them to see if they were the avatar. The ones who failed just went to prison. When Hama was captured she obviously failed the avatar test and went to prison. There she developed blood bending. So rather than risk another Hama situation. The fire nation decided it'd be best to just go with the kill all water bender strategy similar to the air bender strategy they used before. Plus it was getting close to 100 years post Sozins comet killing of the air benders. The fire nation mightve started to wonder if the avatar just died of old age in the northern water tribe and would then become an earth bender. Luckily for the fire nation there hunt was over when Aang emerged from the ice and showed that the fire nation didn't kill the air bender Avatar like they thought. Its amazing how this fictional world seems to have almost no plot holes and every off screen action is justified using logic.
If you notice, Sokka had a flower necklace the morning after. This was a subtle joke that the creators put in implying that Sokka got "lei'd" and Suki was "deflowered"
It's definitely implying that Aang has never killed anyone directly. During the raid of the Northern water tribe La, the ocean spirit, was in control and that's evident by him seeking out and specifically killing Zhou. Aang is a monk first and foremost. And also still a child. I'm assuming at this point the defeat the fire lord thing wasn't real in those terms to him.
But even if Zhou had died, the ocean spirit released Aang before he got his (its?) revenge. So yes, revenge was its original intent, but he used his rage to help Aang first to defend his people before going after Zhou.
Ving Rhames he didn't kill Zhao and probably none of the men. you see, in Legend of Korra Zhao appears in the spirit world, so probably that's where they all went.
I do remember that he killed a buzzard wasp in the desert when he was really upset about Appa. A buzzard wasp is not a human, certainly, but given that Aang has a great respect for all life it's still no less shocking. Other than that, I can't recall any other times where he's purposely killed a living being.
I think it's safe to say that Aang has killed people in the Avatar state, but he was never really sentient. I loved this episode, because it walked the line of "Forgiveness is key" and "Fuck that" I think at the end it came to a healthy balance of a resolution.
I said that..I said he wasn't really "Sentient" and by that I mean the Avatar state, because since he could not control it. He was not sentient. Glad to see were in agreement. I mean, i said the same thing. Like verbatim.
Allison Cornell when did aang killed someone? he just hurt people in the avatar state. he says it in the guru episode. and also it wasn't aang who killed zhao, it was the spirit.
They always say "Hurt" in kids shows and you'll never hear the word "Killed" or "Death" it's a fine line with children's shows. I think it's safe to say that's what was implied. and okay. Remember when the Earth general was trying to force aang into the avatar state? he decimated everyone...There's not a snowball chance in hell they survived. I think that's why when they brought up the scene in the guru episode he was so distraught over that. He's hurt other people besides those people, but they chose that scene. When everyone first watched it, we all knew they were dead or had a heavy feeling about it. But the guru episode was kind of the confirmation. You really can't rely on them saying "hurt" in about kids show. They never even said that Jet died. Everything is implied.
Doesn't relaly make sense for zuko to kill that guy either, he's still a good guy with compassion. He was just misled. Through the whole series, we've seen him have tons of compassion for others, even on the other side of the way. He never killed, even when he was starving, the worse hes done is stole. It wouldn't be in his character to kill like that, he isn't azula.
Yeah, and besides, this journey was all about him helping Katara find closure. Katara chose to not kill him, so I doubt he would kill the guy for Katara.
Exactly Zuko, is just not that type of guy to kill, Like for example in Book 1, General Zhao almost killed Zuko by blowing his ship up, but then what happened at the end, Zuko was trying to help Zhao from getting killed, he just couldn't watch another man die, even a man as bad as Zhao who wanted to get rid of him the whole time.
@@margeryojije7862I mean yeah, but Zuko just figured out which side he associates with, especially morally, it would make no sense at all to have him kill some random bad guy.
I actually really liked how the writers didn't do a clichéd "Katata will eventually forgive her mother's killer" ending. We have that idea of forgiving your enemies thrown at us a lot, but I just don't think it's realistic. You can still despise someone that horribly wronged you and still move on to live a perfectly normal life. There are a couple people from my past that I will always genuinely hate, but it doesn't weigh me down or plague my mind night after night. It's just a fact that I've accepted and my life has continued forward since then. If you do feel like forgiveness is what you need to move on, then you do you bro, but that's not the only option. The show handled this in a very mature way.
Yes, exactly! I also loved how the show didn't tell you if Katara was right or wrong in not forgiving him. It was just how Katara felt and it was completely realistic and understandable.
Yeah, she shouldn't have forgave anyway, like you just don't forgive a man who has murdered your mom, there is a difference between not killing someone and forgiving them, just cause you didn't kill them that doesn't mean you forgave them too, some people think since she didn't kill him she also forgave him but she didn't.
Yeah, that was definitely an important theme to this episode. And it was all the more reason why this episode isn't just my favorite episode in Book 3; it's my favorite episode, period.
I feel like people are misunderstanding. It's not that she shouldn't have forgiven him for what he did, she shouldn't forgive him because he wasn't sorry about it at all. The reason she can forgive Zuko is that he changed his ways and saw his flaws, the other guy didn't have any of that. So it's not that what he did was so bad that he could never be forgiven, it's just that he was no better then than he is now.
3:43 I'm glad that Eric understand why is so hard for Katara to forgive him and and why she is so hard at him. I hate when people say it has no sense :/
I love that this highlights the difference between closure and forgiveness. Nobody is entitled to be forgiven and a victim does not need to forgive to find closure (though some do).
Zuko got friends, but Azula got her skills and her *sharp hair pin* ~ Sokka had a lei around his neck after that scene, so you could say he got "lei'd" ;) Katara bloodbending that Captain was my most favorite moment in this entire episode (my second being her stopping the rain), because her actually bloodbending him said so much more than any dialogue ever could. We know what kind of person Katara is and this show just knows how to convey so much without saying anything at all. This episode also gave me a lot more insight into Katara as a character. It was very heavily implied that Katara saw her mom's dead body when she and her dad got back home. So can you imagine what seeing that could've done to her at that age? Her mom was alone with that man in her own home, she went to go get help, but as soon as she came back with help, he was gone and she was dead. But even after the tragic loss, she stepped up and took in so much responsibilities. To do so, she must've bottled it all up so she could be strong for both Sokka and her dad and because of this, I don't think she ever properly grieved for this loss (as shown by how much she brings up her mom throughout the show). This also makes me wonder whether all this time, a part of Katara blamed herself for her mom's death. I mean, she was the last person to see her mom alive and she said it herself that she wouldn't be that helpless little girl anymore. When finally faced with her mom's killer, she didn't go through with her vengeance, even after she found out her mom sacrificed herself for her. There's just so much said about Katara this episode and it just makes me love her character even more. If people didn't believe Katara was strong before, this episode definitely showed that. I also loved how Katara said that she'll never forgive her mom's killer, because you'd think being a kid's show and all, it would be pushing for forgiveness in the end. So I loved how ATLA showed that it's okay to not always forgive, and I also loved how they did it in a way where it didn't really come off as Katara being right or wrong in doing so. It just showed us how she felt and it was completely understandable and relatable.
Yeah exactly Katara is so awesome, and lol why'd you have to talk about how Katara left to go get help and then went back home to see her moms dead body, I'm picturing that right now and literally crying 😭, I can't imagine poor little Katara going back home to see her mom not alive anymore 😢 so sad. And I agree Katara does feel responsible for her moms death to some degree, especially after how her mom was saving her as being the only water bender in the Southern Watertribe, I think she kind of feels like her mom died because of her, because her mom was protecting her, oh gosh this is so sad 😭😭
imaad uddin Lol sowiee ~ I remember not fully realizing the implications of that particular scene until I was a little older. When I did, I was like "Oh god, this is really dark for a kids show". I also remember shortly after, there were some people saying how Katara's past isn't that dark and tragic, and I'm just like "Here ya go" xD That's also why when she lashed out at Sokka like that, I kind of saw something else in what she was saying. It almost felt like she was saying "Well, you weren't the one that got mom killed, Sokka!"
Lalisa T Lolol it's cool, and yeah at first I didn't think of Katara's past to be that dark or sad either but now oh gosh I sure do, what happened to them, Katara and Sokka is terrifying and the fact their dad had to leave them too, to go to war and them being alone in their small Tribe doesn't make things better either. And yeah I was getting that impression too, I think she was expecting Sokka to be leaning more towards her side, which is why she lashed out at him like that. To Katara her mom being killed was personal meaning she thought it was her fault to some extent, but to Sokka it was more like some guy just killed my mom, so I think this experience impacted the two differently.
imaad uddin I think the reason why Katara is so personally involved with wanting to find her mom's killer is because of the fact that she was the last person to see her mom alive. I think that's what made the difference between her and Sokka. That and Sokka probably didn't see his mom's dead body like Katara did. God, Katara didn't want to leave her mom alone but she was helpless at that age and she had to. And that was the last time she ever saw her mom alive. That's pretty haunting, if you think about it.
Lalisa T Yeah really scary especially for a little girl Katara's age at that time, their moms death was a whole different experience for the both of them, Katara saw the man then had to leave when she didn't want to because she was helpless then came back and saw her moms dead body, Sokka probably just heard about it and like you said he probably didn't see his moms dead body so it was totally different for the two, and that was also the last time Katara saw her mom alive yeah it is really haunting, and Sokka even mentioned he has forgotten how his mom even looks and Katara has taken his moms place in his life whereas for Katara she remembers her mom everyday and never forgot her and remembers her with the necklace she wears around her neck all the time that was given to her by her mom, this is why this means so much for Katara and why she was so desperate to find the man who killed her mom.
This is probably the most grown up episode of TLA, and is unquestionably one of the best. I like the fact that each member of the group has a valid point of view about finding this man, and no one is painted as entirely right or wrong. As much as Katara would hate to admit it, Aang does understand what she's going through but she's hurt he doesn't support her in this. I also love how Zuko comports himself on this journey, he never pushes or tries to judge any of the actions Katara takes. I think this journey makes both of them more rounded - if Zuko had found his mother's killer in Book 1 or 2, I have no doubt he would have killed that person, but he quietly observes the path of revenge Katara tries to take and becomes a better man for the experience. Katara also gets to truly test her limits here too, and I think ultimately becomes stronger because of it.
This is probably my favorite standalone episode of the show. What we see here is the power of a fully realized Waterbending Master, and it is terrifying. It's really interesting to see this side of Katara, because while we see flashes of her anger and frustration about her past and her relationships with her family she goes to a very dark place in her hunt for Yon Ra.
Completely, and her transformation throughout the episode is the reason why this is my absolute favorite episode. Usually Katara is the loving and compassionate person, but in this episode, she became this revenge obsessed, hate filled person, but the biggest thing is that it all feels in character for her. As you said, we saw bits and pieces of it here and there, not only her anger, but her tendency to bury and repress her feelings and emotions, but when a time comes where she can no longer do that, all of those pent up feelings just come pouring out, and that was perfectly displayed here.
Katara is a really amazing character. There is a reason why she is my favorite character in a show full of brilliant characters. She is so strong and badass, yet her character goes much deeper than that. That last scene where she says that she didn't forgive him was one of my favorite scenes in the entire show.
Completely agreed, this episode cemented her as the best character. I know people say Zuko is the most complex and developed, but no, it's easily Katara in my book. Emotionally, there are so many layers to her, she is the loving and compassionate mother figure, but also has a lot of pent up hatred and anger, she holds grudges easily, but tends to bury them. But when that dam breaks, it breaks hard, as we saw in this episode.
***** I do understand perspective. I'm just saying for a kids show, it's a pretty deep show. And for Katara, when you do look more into her character, and even her past, she's a pretty strong and layered character.
"You use more powerful attacks when anger is flowing through, like lightning." "Lightning is a pure expression of firebending without aggression. It is not fueled by rage or emotion the way other firebending is. Some call lightning the cold-blooded fire." - Iroh, 'Bitter Work'
What I l particularly liked about this episode is that Katara using blood bending on the person she originally believed to be the murderer is basically her murdering him. In fact, that was probably a fate worse than death, having his body played with and feeling indescribable pain while slowly dying is quite gruesome. However, when Katara realized it wasn't the guy, she not only stopped killing him but started to realize what she was doing. If she had killed him, she would have had the blood of a (relatively) innocent person on her hands. The implications started to weigh on her. It was the first step to her overcoming her desire to kill.
Also, I love how they kind of got that through the censor but quite clearly Katara's mother was burned alive. In front of her. So yeah, if I were her I'd probably hate the group of people who in my mind are all responsible for that too. Might be wrong, but that seems to be the unfortunate cycle of war.
She wasn't necessarily burned alive in front of her, but it's definitely implied she walked in on her mother's ashes, which is just as dark as what you said. Seriously, imagine an 8 year old (I'm assuming) child walking in on that, that's going to leave some scars.
I mean no wonder everyone hates the fire nation. Airbenders don't really fight to kill (until much later). Waterbenders can shoot spikes, cut people down, launch projectiles, but overall you're going to have a body afterwards. Earthbenders can throw cars at you but still your going to have a semblance of a body. Firebenders? Even if you survive you have the potential to wear third-degree burns for the rest of your life as a daily reminder of their warmongering. And at worst your a melted puddle.
A Better Tomorrow it's unlikely to literally melt you unless they REALLY hate you and keep at it for a while. That being said, you're going to be smoldering and cooked by a firebender. Fire is among the most painful things a human can experience because it's an intense amount of pain to every nerve in the afflicted area, and it doesn't exactly leave a pretty mark. If you survive with full functionality, it'll still scar you st least somewhat, and anyone killed by fire isn't going to be fun to find. Burnt human flesh is something so awful to smell that some people have actually suffered a psychotic break. (Seriously, look up stories of Nazi soldiers in death camps. Quite a lot of those assigned to "disposal," ie setting mass graves on fire to get rid of evidence, lost their fucking minds because the sight and smell of burning people is inherently sickening to most).
15:07 Gran-Gran wasn't a waterbender. She was betrothed to Master Paku. She left the Northern Water Tribe because she thought the idea of betrothal and only allowing women to learn the healing aspect of waterbending was ridiculous. Hope this helped:)
Question for the Blindwave crew and the fans: If Toph can see people by sensing the vibrations made by people moving in the earth, then could she "watch" Sokka and Suki get it on? O_O
Maybe, but then again, Toph can pick up a person's heartbeat from a couple of metres away. So unless Sokka and Suki were the quietest couple to get it on in history, Toph got a free show. XD
I think that she can hear heartbeats, it's just when they start rapidly beating that she knows they are lying. Also, I'm going off the maximum range I have seen her use the ability, and that's when they were confronted by Azula on the Day of Black Sun, which give or take I would say be about 10 metres away max.
Nope at this time her range is at least a few miles. we know this cause when Azula, Mei and Ty Lee first chased them she kept waking everyone up to warn them... so yeah she is totally seeing them get it on
I love the part when katara says that her mother was protecting the last waterbender and then the man asks who and katara yells "me!". The whole scene just makes Katara look so powerful and fearless.
4:04 and 4:05......U can tell Calvin knows what Suki was going to do. And he was excited to see everyone's reaction. I love seeing his reactions because he knows all about this show, but he can't spoil. So when the ask questions, and the guess something right or whatever, I know it must kill him to not spoil. I can relate because I'm watching this series with a few friends, and they haven't seen it before, so I have to sit and not spoil, and it's soooo fucking hard not to😂😂
The parts I love about the "came to kill but can't fulfill" scenes like these is that moment the person targeted would break down crying knowing they could've died for an action they knew was wrong. Scenes like that defines both sides of characters incredibly and I love this episode because of it. Also hold onto your chairs, the temperature is cranking up and there's no going back now.
As many already pointed out: Aang never intentionally killed someone and he never went somewhere with that intention. He either killed in self defense (when people where in vehicles and such) or in his Avatar state, which he hasn't mastered yet. So asking Aang, a raised monk to intentiolly kill someone, even if it is the fire lord, is a big deal for him.
The themes of the show are altogether more mature than 'adult' themes which are usually childish in nature and brought about by adults who do not know how to act.
It makes sense why Katara was angrier then Sokka. Sokka was out there fighting but Katara was the last person to see her mother alive and she left her. She probably somewhat blames herself for leaving her behind.
Why do their avatar reactions not have at least a million views like the Normies since they’ve been reacting to it before it was cool and their reactions are actually entertaining.
i actually read about a nice theory from some other community on this episode about why the southern raiders quit taking prisoners from the SWT. Its an interesting observation because it adds to the subtle mature content of ATLAB. Hama was supposedly the last waterbender taken prisoner from the SWT and taught herslf blood bending in prison and escaped. The southern raiders therefore stopped taking prisoners from that moment on from the south, due to their knowledge of that technique now existing and containment not working. Therefore, Hama can relatively to blame for katara's mother's death that day.
Eric: they are still based on the Western Air Temple, which I love that location! 10 seconds in the episode: Temple gets bombed and they have to leave. So sorry for you Eric lol
Nah, actually most of the crew was on board of the katara/zuko ship but Bryke decided against it because he liked the good ol' "the hero gets the girl" trope
Tbh if it were all up to bryke this show would've been shit Toph would've been a guy and a "love rival", so would Sokka. They would've all just fought for Katara's love all the time while Aang was the "good guy." Katara wouldn't have been the badass we see in the show either. You can already see in the comics (that's all Bryke) how Katara's character has gone to "AANG" and no other fucks were given Kinda sad. /shrug
Tbh Mai/zuko fucks me up even more than Katara/Aang. Mai: Throws things at Zuko. Dismisses Zuko's feelings. Berates Zuko. Calls Zuko names. Shuts Zuko down. Mocks Zuko's morals and beliefs, Scoffs at Zuko's romantic gestures. Thinks lowly of Zuko. Disparages Zuko's dreams and friends. Is never proud of Zuko, ever, or appreciates him- ever. Dates Zuko from Azula's manipulation. Manipulates Zuko. Exploits another man to hurt Zuko and never apologizes or confesses to this man. Leaves Zuko at his lowest point over trivial matters. *Helps her father attempt to assassinate Zuko and his family.* Gaslights Zuko and manipulates him into an apology Bryke: I think this is a good ship and Zuatara is dark! Let's make this canon!
StygianTraveler141 Top 5 in short 5. The Puppetmaster Because It is one of the creepiest episodes with dark animations and they made blood bending look so painfull with those damn sounds and ending felt like they won battle but evil teacher won the war. 4. The Blue Spirit Great character development and with one of my favorite action scenes when Blue spirit and Aang are fighting together. 3. The Southern Raiders Again Great character development episode. Also shows Dark side of Katara 2. Sozin's comet (without spoilers) Don't wanna spoilers in comments so it is just for me perfect ending all 4 parts together. 1. The Crossroads of Destiny This season finale just left so powerfull impact for me and it had so many things that I didn't expect to happend metal bending, Zuko's choise, and so on. Also it had my favorite fight scene Zuko and Azula vs Aang and Katara it is soooo GREAT and intense. This show had so much heart and it felt great experience to watch and learn.
Everything that happened before Zuko joined the group makes her 100% justified in how she treated him until "The Boiling Rock". However, the fact that he helped Sokka in getting Hakoda out of a Fire Nation prison (a country where he's considered a traitor) should've made her realize that he had changed, & that he was no longer an enemy. She told Sokka that he must not love their mother the same way she does, but her hostility towards Zuko after he contributed in busting Hakoda out of jail suggests that she may not love her dad the same way Sokka does (or as much as she loves her mom). That's what she deserved to hear from Sokka, & it's too bad that she never apologized to him.
I love the transition from the "personal field trip with Zuko" phase of Book 3 to "Sozin's Comet". Just one simple question from Zuko that perfectly pivots into the finale (not including "Ember Island Players").
No spoilers: One thing that I really like about this episode was the subtle play with memories that they did. If you go back and watch the memory from Katara's perspective, her mother's expression is consistently serious and grave. When you see the memory from Ran Ya's perspective, you see that Katara's mother smiles comfortingly before she tells Katara to leave. It's a small change, but it shows how time and emotion can alter how you can see and recall the same event.
If memory serves correctly (haven't seen this episode recently, and the section was cut from the video), Sokka was messing around with a lei, which was a writers' pun to indicated that "he got lei'd". Ironically enough, Hama (the wife of Darth Sidious from "The Puppetmaster") was the true culprit of Kya (Sokka Katara's mother)'s murder, since her breakout was what caused the raids. The Fire Nation initially did large assaults with their standard navy until they finally got Hama, who later broke out of prison by way of bloodbending. Large assaults and taking captives rather than kills proved ineffective, so they got freelance groups such as the Southern Raiders to carry out smaller scaled assassinations. I cherish this series, and the trivia I've learned from it. Trivia I enjoy sharing, too.
Yeah I remember in Book 1 before she became a master water bender she was messing around with the rain a little trying to control it, but now she can completely stop it, like damn girl!
Probably my favorite episode of the 3rd Season outside the finale. Great reaction guys, super pumped! Regarding the Legend of Korra, I really hope you take a little break after this show. Only because TLOK is a big change of tone, even if it's set in the same universe. People that watched expecting ATLA 2.0 ended up hating the show. So you should calm down and then start Korra with an open mind. It's a pretty neat show, especially season 3.
In terms of killing I think our only real case is Aang killing the buzzard wasp which was as episode in which he seemed to be losing his way and even hen it may have just been knocked out. The characters always seem to have super-durability, fire seems to knock them back instead of seriously burning them (usually), earth doesn't seem to crush people and kill them etc. If we assume everyone who gets knocked off ships can swim then none of the main characters have killed anyone. Even in The Siege of The North part 2 when Aang took down multiple ships with the ocean spirit, it's possible they all survived and fled. When Zhao is killed the ocean spirit let's Aang go before killing him and I think that detail was important to the creators. It's implied that Monk Gyatso killed fire nation soldiers before being killed himself but that was a case of self defence with no other option and it's possible that the fire nation used a machine that killed their own troops along with monk Gyatso as we know they are often ruthless. It does feel like a stretch to have so much large scale fighting without any of our protagonists killing anyone but I do think it's possible that this principle of not killing has been adhered to by all our protagonists.
Katara can only blood bend during a full moon. In the episode, in the background you can see the full moon to foreshadow she can blood bend that night if she wanted to, which she ended up doing.
I didn't see the full moon when I first watched this episode, but my thought process when the bloodbending happened wasn't "Hey how is she bloodbending without a full moon?", it was "Hey she's bloodbending, it must be a full moon"
1. There was a full moon, even if you missed that would not that be the first assumption, especially since the scene is at night and it would be a story-breaking power otherwise ? 2. The firebenders are lucky it does not rain that often in the Fire Nation, otherwise like 10 waterbender could dismantle their nation. 3. Katara is a good example of how to avoid writing a Mary Sue, her kindness and responsibility make her more empathic and trusting, but that results in her being more unforgiving, when her vulnerability is taken advantage of. She is one really bad day away from becoming Harma.
I don't think her powers are strong enough to be a Mary Sue either, I think someone is only a Mary Sue if they seem so powerful or so perfect that we don't feel like anything will be a challenge to them.
TV Tropes strikes again!! After the tent scene, Sokka is seen weaving a white flower (daisies...) necklace for Suki the next morning - symbolizing that there WAS in fact, a "de-flowering" that night. ;) You know...FOR KIDS :D
Can i ask how some of y’all felt about Katara saying “You didn’t love her like I did” to Sokka? Because it really bothered me as a kid and idk what to make of it now a days
She was way out of line for saying something nasty like that. Kya was Sokka's mother too and he also had to deal with grief. Katara saying that he didn't love her and she loved her more is downright disgusting.
@@bemiatto67 - It wasn’t right for her to say it, but it makes sense that their mother’s death affected her more. She felt responsible because Kya lied to protect her, and she basically took her mother’s place in the tribe after she was gone. She also had to live with the memory of seeing the killer’s face and finding the body. Sokka forgave her because he knew it was coming from a place of extreme grief and misplaced guilt, and he knows how much Katara cares for him.
I think Katara and Sokka both know why she said it and that she doesn’t really believe it. Sokka doesn’t get defensive and Katara looks ashamed. We never see her apologize to him because there’s a mutual understanding.
It is implied that people have died in this show, but remember guys; because it's a kids show they can't show it. I guarantee if it was aimed for adults like us people would have died. : And omg I forgot about Sokka's little tent hello 😂 and there was an innuendo too. The next morning when Sokka was wearing a lei around his neck, it's subtly implied that he got Laid. 😅 : But damn, this episode showed a truly dark side of Katara. We've always seen her as kind and loving, but this one showed her as the most dangerous water bender in the world right now. She knows four types of water bending: blood, swamp, northern and southern. But you can see where her mind is at when she's confronting Yan Ra and it's scary. To have her not take his life (not only going back to the kids show rating) shows that she realized she was loosing control. I don't know if I'm the only one who saw this but it's almost like Hama got in her head. Hama created blood bending as a form of revenge and used it to attack innocent people, but Yan Ra wasn't innocent. It's almost like Anakin with Palpatine. It was truly a test to see if Katara could become not only strong but respected as well. : But these next few episodes are so incredible Blind Wave. Fun fact: when the four part finale was made, the Avatar creators wanted it to feel like a movie. So it will feel like one, but they also rented out a small theatre in Hollywood for the cast and crew. They also have the composer Jeremy Zuckerman an orchestra to conduct his music live too. 💗
I love that this show didn’t just have her forgive the guy who killed her mom. They show that you don’t always have to forgive people and that you can’t always forgive and that that’s ok.
This is my favorite episode of the series the way katara looks at ang when she says I knew you wouldn't understand fucking chills just the look of resentment gets me every time
For the people bashing Aang because they think he's being a jerk and or they don't like Aang there is some truth behind what he said about forgiveness. There is a saying that goes "Forgive others not because they deserve to be forgiven but because you deserve peace." but and he was saying it's wrong to kill unless it is self defense which is a point many people seemed to either gloss over or miss entirely. Also there's a saying that "Holding into anger and bitterness towards an enemy is like drinking poison and expecting them to die." And there are a few exceptions but in general it's better to forgive. But that doesn't mean I think it's easy because it's not. particularly if some has done something so terrible or has hurt you repeatedly and doesn't show remorse. But if you let anger consume your daily life you will continue to be distrustful and in time it'll effect current relationships with family friends going into new relationships etc because you'll be suspicious of everyone's motive and they'll always have to prove they are on your side. While the enemy likely hasn't given you a second thought your anger towards them eats away at you constantly. While you are wide awake they have no trouble sleeping. "sometimes the best revenge really is living well." I can see both sides in this situation it was defiantly one of the more complex episodes and one of the most action packed.
Zuko is just a guide to Katara. Like Iroh has been his guide before and didn't interfere in his decisions, he had no right and no real reason to interfere. It's not just a matter of a kids show. It's more about the fact that he was doing this to gain Katara's trust and to help her overcome her past, like he once did. He's not in position to interfere, but to show her that he respects her own decision. And an interference would mean that her decision was wrong, when their journey is actually HER journey, something more personal than absolute "right VS wrong".
But I don't think that Zuko can kill as well, at least not while in control of his emotions. He was already worried about Azula not making that fall, so I think he wouldn't kill someone random just because the person deserve and the others can't do it.
I really appreciate how Blind Wave found a way to stand out among a RUclips world of reaction videos by adding commentary at the end of each episode (more so than just "reaction" like the FineBros.). It's interesting listening to the commentary sometimes. I hope they find other ways to create original content alongside the basic reaction formula.
Thanks for pointing out to us about the moon guys. The nature of how we do these reactions, we're gonna miss a few details every once in awhile. Thanks for watching! - Eric
Blind Wave Haha, glad you guys answered all the comments, but even if this is pinned at the top, in week I'm sure the comments will flood again with more people pointing it out.
As many times as I've seen this show I never even noticed the moon. I never put much thought into it thinking that she was just that good but this makes it so much better.
Did you guys realize that they didn't even show how is the Temple inside, and they have been in there for probably a week?
Blind Wave no problem blindwave leader
This episode is one of my favorites.The darker story of Katara who is normally a kind, motherly figure, the continued redemption of Zuko as well as him representing a different philosophy from Aang. The ending where Aang preaches a more cliche moral forgiveness and Katara injects a more human perspective, choosing never to forgive but not to let it bind her is so freakin wonderful.
"She was protecting the last water bender."
"What? Who?!"
"ME!"
*STOPS THE F***ING RAIN*
love that moment
@Yafet Shibeshi did you not notice the water drops stopping in the air before she starts forming the dome?
OK......
Rain: *falling*
Katara: Not right now fam.
I get chills every time that happened 😌😌
Eric: I love that they now have a home base.
*homebase immediately attacked*
LOLLLLLLLL
Everything changes when the homebase was attacked.
😂
Ember Island: Hello there.
Lmaooo
I love that line Katara has: "I don't know if it's because I'm too weak to do it, or if it's because I'm strong enough not to."
Me too!
Great line
I prefer the line where she says she didn't forgive Yan Ra. Because fuck that guy.
@@SwordTune Fuck Yon Rha, all my homies hate Yon Rha.
@@drfifteenmd7561 and his mama!
Now that this episode is up, I can finally talk about this. Here's a little theory I thought of and I wanna hear you and others thoughts on it. After watching The Southern Raiders one day, I started thinking, "Why did Yon Rha kill Kya while in the past, all other water benders were taken away? It's obvious he was following orders given to him by the Fire Nation, but why receive these orders instead of taking her away? And there was only one reason why...Hama.
Remember, Hama was the last of the water benders captured by the Fire Nation before the Southern Raiders. And as we all know, while in prison, Hama invented Blood Bending and used it to escape. So, after her escape, the Fire Nation become aware of how powerful and how dangerous water benders can truly be. And with the discovery of one water bender left in the Southern Water Tribe, the Fire Nation are not willing to take the chance of creating another Hama, they decide to order Yon Rha to kill the Last Waterbender.
So if Hama did not create Blood Bending to escape her prison, there wouldn't have been a reason for the Fire Nation to raid the Southern Water Tribe and kill the last water bender. She may have just been sent to prison as well. So Hama is the reason Kya had to sacrifice herself to save Katara. So it makes the scene of Katara telling Hama that she and Sokka lost their mother in a raid well...dark. And to think, Katara uses the same technique on the man she thought killed her mother. It's actually kind of a twisted theory.
Thoughts?
i always thought that they were just looking for the avatar tbh cause his last life was in the southern air temple, so I thought that they assumed they he would brought back in the Southern water tribe( probably not but I always just didn't want to throw that theory out the window so soon
Possible, plausible, and quite probable
you didn't think of this, its a popular theory
Could be, never hade such deep thoughts since I saw ATLA the last time when I was 12. Hama surely broke out before Sokka and Katara were even born, since she look young in her flashbacks.
But how did the fire nation get the information of another waterbender? Katara was really young possibly 5 years and probably never bend in her lifetime. How should the fire nation know about a bender if they did not even patroled there (which would be wasting of resources).
It's a common theory that's kind of accepted at this point. The theory being that once Roku died Sozin knew the next avatar would be born an air bender. Sozin knew that the avatar born in another nation would always be an obstacle in the fire nation takeover of the world. His plan was to either capture the avatar and hold him as prisoner for as long as the avatar was alive or kill him in each of the cycles air, water, and earth. Until the avatar came back to the fire nation. Sozin believed that a natural born fire nation Avatar could be molded into his belief. Sozin knew this plan would probably never be finished in his lifetime since he had to kill 3 avatars in 3 different cultures, so he first invaded the air nomads to either capture or kill the avatar whichever was easier. After failing to capture or confirm the killing of the avatar, Sozin assumed he mustve died in one of the raids and moved on to attack water tribes. Unfortunately for Sozin he was getting old and died. His son Azulon took over his legacy and kept targeting water tribes in the hunt for the avatar. They knew their forces weren't strong enough to invade the northern tribe so they just hoped the avatar was born in the south. They captured every waterbender and tested them to see if they were the avatar. The ones who failed just went to prison. When Hama was captured she obviously failed the avatar test and went to prison. There she developed blood bending. So rather than risk another Hama situation. The fire nation decided it'd be best to just go with the kill all water bender strategy similar to the air bender strategy they used before. Plus it was getting close to 100 years post Sozins comet killing of the air benders. The fire nation mightve started to wonder if the avatar just died of old age in the northern water tribe and would then become an earth bender. Luckily for the fire nation there hunt was over when Aang emerged from the ice and showed that the fire nation didn't kill the air bender Avatar like they thought. Its amazing how this fictional world seems to have almost no plot holes and every off screen action is justified using logic.
She didn't forgive but she didn't sink to his level either and murder out of cold blood. Such a great episode
Yeah exactly, I found that incredible!
I'm all for that! I was like "hate him all you want just don't kill the fool.
Technically, the episode ends with Katara forgiving Zuko.
Weiss Schnee Not really murder to be honest.
@igor caique Uh, yes....yes it would.
If you notice, Sokka had a flower necklace the morning after. This was a subtle joke that the creators put in implying that Sokka got "lei'd" and Suki was "deflowered"
i dont see a flower necklace
za21 REALLY!? Do you know where that was said? I want to see it myself.
You saw that from another youtube comment
Where, I don’t see
Suki and sokka were down to fuck before zuko interrupted
*Zuko:* "Then I have a question for you, what are you going to do when you face my father?"
*Aang:* "Oh no, he's crazy and he has to go down."
exactly what he should have said
especially after killing zhao
@@tonydanatop4912 Thats rough buddyx
Tony Danatop the ocean spirit killed zhao
@@palmerevans2718
arrow boi was and accomplice
Palmer Evans Yeah that ain't gonna hold up in court 😂😂😂
It's definitely implying that Aang has never killed anyone directly. During the raid of the Northern water tribe La, the ocean spirit, was in control and that's evident by him seeking out and specifically killing Zhou.
Aang is a monk first and foremost. And also still a child. I'm assuming at this point the defeat the fire lord thing wasn't real in those terms to him.
Not super important, yet Korra-spoilery thing below
Zhou didnt actually die. But I do still agree with your point 100%
But even if Zhou had died, the ocean spirit released Aang before he got his (its?) revenge. So yes, revenge was its original intent, but he used his rage to help Aang first to defend his people before going after Zhou.
Essentially death. And the way I remember it, probably a fate worse than a regular death.
Ving Rhames he didn't kill Zhao and probably none of the men. you see, in Legend of Korra Zhao appears in the spirit world, so probably that's where they all went.
I do remember that he killed a buzzard wasp in the desert when he was really upset about Appa. A buzzard wasp is not a human, certainly, but given that Aang has a great respect for all life it's still no less shocking. Other than that, I can't recall any other times where he's purposely killed a living being.
I think it's safe to say that Aang has killed people in the Avatar state, but he was never really sentient.
I loved this episode, because it walked the line of "Forgiveness is key" and "Fuck that" I think at the end it came to a healthy balance of a resolution.
I mean yeah I think people have certainly died they way they take out like enemy vehicles and stuff lol.
I said that..I said he wasn't really "Sentient" and by that I mean the Avatar state, because since he could not control it. He was not sentient. Glad to see were in agreement. I mean, i said the same thing. Like verbatim.
Hm, I actually forgot about that. Good point!
Allison Cornell when did aang killed someone? he just hurt people in the avatar state. he says it in the guru episode. and also it wasn't aang who killed zhao, it was the spirit.
They always say "Hurt" in kids shows and you'll never hear the word "Killed" or "Death" it's a fine line with children's shows. I think it's safe to say that's what was implied. and okay. Remember when the Earth general was trying to force aang into the avatar state? he decimated everyone...There's not a snowball chance in hell they survived. I think that's why when they brought up the scene in the guru episode he was so distraught over that. He's hurt other people besides those people, but they chose that scene. When everyone first watched it, we all knew they were dead or had a heavy feeling about it. But the guru episode was kind of the confirmation. You really can't rely on them saying "hurt" in about kids show. They never even said that Jet died. Everything is implied.
Doesn't relaly make sense for zuko to kill that guy either, he's still a good guy with compassion. He was just misled. Through the whole series, we've seen him have tons of compassion for others, even on the other side of the way. He never killed, even when he was starving, the worse hes done is stole. It wouldn't be in his character to kill like that, he isn't azula.
Yeah, and besides, this journey was all about him helping Katara find closure. Katara chose to not kill him, so I doubt he would kill the guy for Katara.
Exactly Zuko, is just not that type of guy to kill, Like for example in Book 1, General Zhao almost killed Zuko by blowing his ship up, but then what happened at the end, Zuko was trying to help Zhao from getting killed, he just couldn't watch another man die, even a man as bad as Zhao who wanted to get rid of him the whole time.
@@margeryojije7862I mean yeah, but Zuko just figured out which side he associates with, especially morally, it would make no sense at all to have him kill some random bad guy.
Time for a flood of "There was a full moon" Comments.
Just wait for this video to be available for everyone on RUclips. o_O
I know lol I was gonna say that too, Blind Wave just posted a comment addressing that, but you know people will still bring it up haha!
Yisus Craist oh gosh
Was about to post it myself and then stopped and said, "Let me read some of the other comments to see if they already said it."
Ha flood. Just like the water and the flood that knocked the fire nation soldiers out.
I think Katara feels more guilt than Soka because she blames herself since her mom gave her life to save the last waterbender (her)
There was a full moon when Katara did her blood bending. If you watch again, there is a scene of Appa flying with the full moon in the background.
I actually really liked how the writers didn't do a clichéd "Katata will eventually forgive her mother's killer" ending. We have that idea of forgiving your enemies thrown at us a lot, but I just don't think it's realistic. You can still despise someone that horribly wronged you and still move on to live a perfectly normal life. There are a couple people from my past that I will always genuinely hate, but it doesn't weigh me down or plague my mind night after night. It's just a fact that I've accepted and my life has continued forward since then. If you do feel like forgiveness is what you need to move on, then you do you bro, but that's not the only option. The show handled this in a very mature way.
Yes, exactly! I also loved how the show didn't tell you if Katara was right or wrong in not forgiving him. It was just how Katara felt and it was completely realistic and understandable.
Yeah, she shouldn't have forgave anyway, like you just don't forgive a man who has murdered your mom, there is a difference between not killing someone and forgiving them, just cause you didn't kill them that doesn't mean you forgave them too, some people think since she didn't kill him she also forgave him but she didn't.
Yeah, that was definitely an important theme to this episode. And it was all the more reason why this episode isn't just my favorite episode in Book 3; it's my favorite episode, period.
Huh, I didn't know L watched Avatar.
I feel like people are misunderstanding. It's not that she shouldn't have forgiven him for what he did, she shouldn't forgive him because he wasn't sorry about it at all. The reason she can forgive Zuko is that he changed his ways and saw his flaws, the other guy didn't have any of that. So it's not that what he did was so bad that he could never be forgiven, it's just that he was no better then than he is now.
3:43 I'm glad that Eric understand why is so hard for Katara to forgive him and and why she is so hard at him. I hate when people say it has no sense :/
Because they don't think before they speak, unlike Eric.
I love that this highlights the difference between closure and forgiveness. Nobody is entitled to be forgiven and a victim does not need to forgive to find closure (though some do).
Zuko got friends, but Azula got her skills and her *sharp hair pin* ~
Sokka had a lei around his neck after that scene, so you could say he got "lei'd" ;)
Katara bloodbending that Captain was my most favorite moment in this entire episode (my second being her stopping the rain), because her actually bloodbending him said so much more than any dialogue ever could. We know what kind of person Katara is and this show just knows how to convey so much without saying anything at all.
This episode also gave me a lot more insight into Katara as a character. It was very heavily implied that Katara saw her mom's dead body when she and her dad got back home. So can you imagine what seeing that could've done to her at that age? Her mom was alone with that man in her own home, she went to go get help, but as soon as she came back with help, he was gone and she was dead. But even after the tragic loss, she stepped up and took in so much responsibilities. To do so, she must've bottled it all up so she could be strong for both Sokka and her dad and because of this, I don't think she ever properly grieved for this loss (as shown by how much she brings up her mom throughout the show). This also makes me wonder whether all this time, a part of Katara blamed herself for her mom's death. I mean, she was the last person to see her mom alive and she said it herself that she wouldn't be that helpless little girl anymore. When finally faced with her mom's killer, she didn't go through with her vengeance, even after she found out her mom sacrificed herself for her. There's just so much said about Katara this episode and it just makes me love her character even more. If people didn't believe Katara was strong before, this episode definitely showed that.
I also loved how Katara said that she'll never forgive her mom's killer, because you'd think being a kid's show and all, it would be pushing for forgiveness in the end. So I loved how ATLA showed that it's okay to not always forgive, and I also loved how they did it in a way where it didn't really come off as Katara being right or wrong in doing so. It just showed us how she felt and it was completely understandable and relatable.
Yeah exactly Katara is so awesome, and lol why'd you have to talk about how Katara left to go get help and then went back home to see her moms dead body, I'm picturing that right now and literally crying 😭, I can't imagine poor little Katara going back home to see her mom not alive anymore 😢 so sad.
And I agree Katara does feel responsible for her moms death to some degree, especially after how her mom was saving her as being the only water bender in the Southern Watertribe, I think she kind of feels like her mom died because of her, because her mom was protecting her, oh gosh this is so sad 😭😭
imaad uddin Lol sowiee ~
I remember not fully realizing the implications of that particular scene until I was a little older. When I did, I was like "Oh god, this is really dark for a kids show". I also remember shortly after, there were some people saying how Katara's past isn't that dark and tragic, and I'm just like "Here ya go" xD
That's also why when she lashed out at Sokka like that, I kind of saw something else in what she was saying. It almost felt like she was saying "Well, you weren't the one that got mom killed, Sokka!"
Lalisa T Lolol it's cool, and yeah at first I didn't think of Katara's past to be that dark or sad either but now oh gosh I sure do, what happened to them, Katara and Sokka is terrifying and the fact their dad had to leave them too, to go to war and them being alone in their small Tribe doesn't make things better either.
And yeah I was getting that impression too, I think she was expecting Sokka to be leaning more towards her side, which is why she lashed out at him like that. To Katara her mom being killed was personal meaning she thought it was her fault to some extent, but to Sokka it was more like some guy just killed my mom, so I think this experience impacted the two differently.
imaad uddin I think the reason why Katara is so personally involved with wanting to find her mom's killer is because of the fact that she was the last person to see her mom alive. I think that's what made the difference between her and Sokka. That and Sokka probably didn't see his mom's dead body like Katara did. God, Katara didn't want to leave her mom alone but she was helpless at that age and she had to. And that was the last time she ever saw her mom alive. That's pretty haunting, if you think about it.
Lalisa T Yeah really scary especially for a little girl Katara's age at that time, their moms death was a whole different experience for the both of them, Katara saw the man then had to leave when she didn't want to because she was helpless then came back and saw her moms dead body, Sokka probably just heard about it and like you said he probably didn't see his moms dead body so it was totally different for the two, and that was also the last time Katara saw her mom alive yeah it is really haunting, and Sokka even mentioned he has forgotten how his mom even looks and Katara has taken his moms place in his life whereas for Katara she remembers her mom everyday and never forgot her and remembers her with the necklace she wears around her neck all the time that was given to her by her mom, this is why this means so much for Katara and why she was so desperate to find the man who killed her mom.
I thought you guys would notice that there was a full moon before they took over the ship :P
I am totally not complaining!
geknow what really?? I never knew. And I've rewatched like 5 times
I didn't notice it the first time I watched it. I always asumed she was powerful enough to do it without the full moon.
There is a full moon, otherwise Katara wouldn't have been able to blood bend.
I never noticed either!!!
They're not entirely wrong though with assumption that if you're strong enough you don't need a full moon to bloodbend.
This is probably the most grown up episode of TLA, and is unquestionably one of the best. I like the fact that each member of the group has a valid point of view about finding this man, and no one is painted as entirely right or wrong. As much as Katara would hate to admit it, Aang does understand what she's going through but she's hurt he doesn't support her in this. I also love how Zuko comports himself on this journey, he never pushes or tries to judge any of the actions Katara takes. I think this journey makes both of them more rounded - if Zuko had found his mother's killer in Book 1 or 2, I have no doubt he would have killed that person, but he quietly observes the path of revenge Katara tries to take and becomes a better man for the experience. Katara also gets to truly test her limits here too, and I think ultimately becomes stronger because of it.
hyperdeath84 also sokka got laid.
Best comment! You took in everyone's perspective and accurately at that.
This is probably my favorite standalone episode of the show. What we see here is the power of a fully realized Waterbending Master, and it is terrifying. It's really interesting to see this side of Katara, because while we see flashes of her anger and frustration about her past and her relationships with her family she goes to a very dark place in her hunt for Yon Ra.
Completely, and her transformation throughout the episode is the reason why this is my absolute favorite episode. Usually Katara is the loving and compassionate person, but in this episode, she became this revenge obsessed, hate filled person, but the biggest thing is that it all feels in character for her. As you said, we saw bits and pieces of it here and there, not only her anger, but her tendency to bury and repress her feelings and emotions, but when a time comes where she can no longer do that, all of those pent up feelings just come pouring out, and that was perfectly displayed here.
In the morning after that tent scene, we see Sokka with a flower necklace, also known as a lei, implying that Sokka "got lei'd".
Katara is a really amazing character. There is a reason why she is my favorite character in a show full of brilliant characters. She is so strong and badass, yet her character goes much deeper than that. That last scene where she says that she didn't forgive him was one of my favorite scenes in the entire show.
Completely agreed, this episode cemented her as the best character. I know people say Zuko is the most complex and developed, but no, it's easily Katara in my book. Emotionally, there are so many layers to her, she is the loving and compassionate mother figure, but also has a lot of pent up hatred and anger, she holds grudges easily, but tends to bury them. But when that dam breaks, it breaks hard, as we saw in this episode.
Completely agree with you both!! One of the reasons she's my favorite character of ATLA :)
+Fated Forever Oh yes it is. And if you don't see it, then you need to watch the episode again.
***** lol when has ATLA not been a deep show?
***** I do understand perspective. I'm just saying for a kids show, it's a pretty deep show.
And for Katara, when you do look more into her character, and even her past, she's a pretty strong and layered character.
"You use more powerful attacks when anger is flowing through, like lightning."
"Lightning is a pure expression of firebending without aggression. It is not fueled by rage or emotion the way other firebending is. Some call lightning the cold-blooded fire."
- Iroh, 'Bitter Work'
melon lord hypee so close now!
OMG yes!!!
THE Epic battle is near :P
Funny quote from a future episode below
I'M NOT TOPH, *I AM MELON LOORD*
Kaakeli laatotus Shhhh NO SPOILERS :D
FinnKeyPlay Is that in the next episode? I cant remember. If it is, no spoiler to Blind Wave.
Put a warning anyways, cheers.
4:19 I love how Eric blushed so hard when Zuko found Sokka. 😁
He couldn’t handle the Sokka
What I l particularly liked about this episode is that Katara using blood bending on the person she originally believed to be the murderer is basically her murdering him. In fact, that was probably a fate worse than death, having his body played with and feeling indescribable pain while slowly dying is quite gruesome. However, when Katara realized it wasn't the guy, she not only stopped killing him but started to realize what she was doing. If she had killed him, she would have had the blood of a (relatively) innocent person on her hands. The implications started to weigh on her. It was the first step to her overcoming her desire to kill.
Also, I love how they kind of got that through the censor but quite clearly Katara's mother was burned alive. In front of her.
So yeah, if I were her I'd probably hate the group of people who in my mind are all responsible for that too. Might be wrong, but that seems to be the unfortunate cycle of war.
She wasn't necessarily burned alive in front of her, but it's definitely implied she walked in on her mother's ashes, which is just as dark as what you said. Seriously, imagine an 8 year old (I'm assuming) child walking in on that, that's going to leave some scars.
I mean no wonder everyone hates the fire nation. Airbenders don't really fight to kill (until much later). Waterbenders can shoot spikes, cut people down, launch projectiles, but overall you're going to have a body afterwards. Earthbenders can throw cars at you but still your going to have a semblance of a body.
Firebenders? Even if you survive you have the potential to wear third-degree burns for the rest of your life as a daily reminder of their warmongering. And at worst your a melted puddle.
A Better Tomorrow it's unlikely to literally melt you unless they REALLY hate you and keep at it for a while. That being said, you're going to be smoldering and cooked by a firebender. Fire is among the most painful things a human can experience because it's an intense amount of pain to every nerve in the afflicted area, and it doesn't exactly leave a pretty mark. If you survive with full functionality, it'll still scar you st least somewhat, and anyone killed by fire isn't going to be fun to find. Burnt human flesh is something so awful to smell that some people have actually suffered a psychotic break. (Seriously, look up stories of Nazi soldiers in death camps. Quite a lot of those assigned to "disposal," ie setting mass graves on fire to get rid of evidence, lost their fucking minds because the sight and smell of burning people is inherently sickening to most).
I don't think that they're implying they've never killed anyone, I think it's just that they've never set out to kill someone *on purpose*.
15:07 Gran-Gran wasn't a waterbender. She was betrothed to Master Paku. She left the Northern Water Tribe because she thought the idea of betrothal and only allowing women to learn the healing aspect of waterbending was ridiculous. Hope this helped:)
I love how they address Jett, considering the next episode!
You know, it was very unclear.
Question for the Blindwave crew and the fans:
If Toph can see people by sensing the vibrations made by people moving in the earth, then could she "watch" Sokka and Suki get it on? O_O
Sean McMillan I think the movements have to be like strong vibrations like a guy super heavy stomping but sex I don't think so but I could be wrong
Maybe, but then again, Toph can pick up a person's heartbeat from a couple of metres away. So unless Sokka and Suki were the quietest couple to get it on in history, Toph got a free show. XD
Sean McMillan I thought that was only if they were lying and she was close to them ?
I think that she can hear heartbeats, it's just when they start rapidly beating that she knows they are lying. Also, I'm going off the maximum range I have seen her use the ability, and that's when they were confronted by Azula on the Day of Black Sun, which give or take I would say be about 10 metres away max.
Nope at this time her range is at least a few miles. we know this cause when Azula, Mei and Ty Lee first chased them she kept waking everyone up to warn them... so yeah she is totally seeing them get it on
Love you guys. Been a rough week so Ive been looking forward to this video and this Avatar episode for awhile.
I love the part when katara says that her mother was protecting the last waterbender and then the man asks who and katara yells "me!". The whole scene just makes Katara look so powerful and fearless.
4:04 and 4:05......U can tell Calvin knows what Suki was going to do. And he was excited to see everyone's reaction. I love seeing his reactions because he knows all about this show, but he can't spoil. So when the ask questions, and the guess something right or whatever, I know it must kill him to not spoil. I can relate because I'm watching this series with a few friends, and they haven't seen it before, so I have to sit and not spoil, and it's soooo fucking hard not to😂😂
The flashback with her mother makes my eyes waterbend its so sad
*tearbend
The parts I love about the "came to kill but can't fulfill" scenes like these is that moment the person targeted would break down crying knowing they could've died for an action they knew was wrong. Scenes like that defines both sides of characters incredibly and I love this episode because of it. Also hold onto your chairs, the temperature is cranking up and there's no going back now.
As many already pointed out: Aang never intentionally killed someone and he never went somewhere with that intention. He either killed in self defense (when people where in vehicles and such) or in his Avatar state, which he hasn't mastered yet. So asking Aang, a raised monk to intentiolly kill someone, even if it is the fire lord, is a big deal for him.
That night... Toph felt every thrust...
Every one needs a field trip with Zuko
The themes of the show are altogether more mature than 'adult' themes which are usually childish in nature and brought about by adults who do not know how to act.
Fun fact: the flowers that sokka and suki had meant that sokka got "laid" and suki got "deflowered"
Anna Duer Wow. That's subtle. Good on you, animators.
I just can’t get over Katara’s “you didn’t love her like I did” comment
It makes sense why Katara was angrier then Sokka. Sokka was out there fighting but Katara was the last person to see her mother alive and she left her. She probably somewhat blames herself for leaving her behind.
The only time we've seen Aang willfully and purposefully take another creature's life is the Buzzard Wasp in The Desert.
Why do their avatar reactions not have at least a million views like the Normies since they’ve been reacting to it before it was cool and their reactions are actually entertaining.
i actually read about a nice theory from some other community on this episode about why the southern raiders quit taking prisoners from the SWT. Its an interesting observation because it adds to the subtle mature content of ATLAB. Hama was supposedly the last waterbender taken prisoner from the SWT and taught herslf blood bending in prison and escaped. The southern raiders therefore stopped taking prisoners from that moment on from the south, due to their knowledge of that technique now existing and containment not working. Therefore, Hama can relatively to blame for katara's mother's death that day.
Eric: they are still based on the Western Air Temple, which I love that location!
10 seconds in the episode: Temple gets bombed and they have to leave.
So sorry for you Eric lol
I know this is inappropriate but badass Katara is a lot more attractive that "hope" Katara. I can see why people shipped her with Zuko.
Nah, actually most of the crew was on board of the katara/zuko ship but Bryke decided against it because he liked the good ol' "the hero gets the girl" trope
Tbh if it were all up to bryke this show would've been shit
Toph would've been a guy and a "love rival", so would Sokka. They would've all just fought for Katara's love all the time while Aang was the "good guy." Katara wouldn't have been the badass we see in the show either.
You can already see in the comics (that's all Bryke) how Katara's character has gone to "AANG" and no other fucks were given
Kinda sad.
/shrug
I think it's fine, because Katara was Aang's anchor any time he lost control.
I honestly like Mai better as the girlfriend fore Zuko.
Tbh Mai/zuko fucks me up even more than Katara/Aang.
Mai: Throws things at Zuko. Dismisses Zuko's feelings. Berates Zuko. Calls Zuko names. Shuts Zuko down. Mocks Zuko's morals and beliefs, Scoffs at Zuko's romantic gestures. Thinks lowly of Zuko. Disparages Zuko's dreams and friends. Is never proud of Zuko, ever, or appreciates him- ever. Dates Zuko from Azula's manipulation. Manipulates Zuko. Exploits another man to hurt Zuko and never apologizes or confesses to this man. Leaves Zuko at his lowest point over trivial matters. *Helps her father attempt to assassinate Zuko and his family.* Gaslights Zuko and manipulates him into an apology
Bryke: I think this is a good ship and Zuatara is dark! Let's make this canon!
Yeah this episode is easily one of my top 5 episodes
StygianTraveler141
Top 5 in short
5. The Puppetmaster
Because It is one of the creepiest episodes with dark animations and
they made blood bending look so painfull with those damn sounds and
ending felt like they won battle but evil teacher won the war.
4. The Blue Spirit
Great character development and with one of my favorite action scenes
when Blue spirit and Aang are fighting together.
3. The Southern Raiders
Again Great character development episode. Also shows Dark side of
Katara
2. Sozin's comet (without spoilers)
Don't wanna spoilers in comments so it is just for me perfect ending all
4 parts together.
1. The Crossroads of Destiny
This season finale just left so powerfull impact for me and it had so
many things that I didn't expect to happend metal bending, Zuko's
choise, and so on. Also it had my favorite fight scene Zuko and Azula vs
Aang and Katara it is soooo GREAT and intense.
This show had so much heart and it felt great experience to watch and
learn.
Katara hugging Zuko is kinda cute lol.
It was so sweet!
A catharsis for the both of them.
i cant wait to see your reaction to the last 2 episodes, you're gonna be entirely blown away
The Last Agni Kai is comin boyss
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Everything that happened before Zuko joined the group makes her 100% justified in how she treated him until "The Boiling Rock". However, the fact that he helped Sokka in getting Hakoda out of a Fire Nation prison (a country where he's considered a traitor) should've made her realize that he had changed, & that he was no longer an enemy. She told Sokka that he must not love their mother the same way she does, but her hostility towards Zuko after he contributed in busting Hakoda out of jail suggests that she may not love her dad the same way Sokka does (or as much as she loves her mom). That's what she deserved to hear from Sokka, & it's too bad that she never apologized to him.
I love the long discussions you guys have after the episode. Keep it up:D
I love the transition from the "personal field trip with Zuko" phase of Book 3 to "Sozin's Comet". Just one simple question from Zuko that perfectly pivots into the finale (not including "Ember Island Players").
ANG GOT CALLED OUT AT THE END!
No spoilers: One thing that I really like about this episode was the subtle play with memories that they did. If you go back and watch the memory from Katara's perspective, her mother's expression is consistently serious and grave. When you see the memory from Ran Ya's perspective, you see that Katara's mother smiles comfortingly before she tells Katara to leave. It's a small change, but it shows how time and emotion can alter how you can see and recall the same event.
I'm gonna be so sad when this reaction series is over, it was one of the things that made me look forward to Mondays (and Fridays)
If memory serves correctly (haven't seen this episode recently, and the section was cut from the video), Sokka was messing around with a lei, which was a writers' pun to indicated that "he got lei'd".
Ironically enough, Hama (the wife of Darth Sidious from "The Puppetmaster") was the true culprit of Kya (Sokka Katara's mother)'s murder, since her breakout was what caused the raids. The Fire Nation initially did large assaults with their standard navy until they finally got Hama, who later broke out of prison by way of bloodbending. Large assaults and taking captives rather than kills proved ineffective, so they got freelance groups such as the Southern Raiders to carry out smaller scaled assassinations.
I cherish this series, and the trivia I've learned from it. Trivia I enjoy sharing, too.
Anyone else noticed Eric blushing like MAD during Suki/Sokka's tent scene?? xD
SO close to that 4 part finale. I remember actually getting popcorn and watching through that.
Katara stopping the rain is just the coolest shit ever
Yeah I remember in Book 1 before she became a master water bender she was messing around with the rain a little trying to control it, but now she can completely stop it, like damn girl!
I can recall Aang killing the Buzzard Wasp in the episode known as ¨The Desert.¨ Well, he might not have killed it, but it was heavily implied.
Probably my favorite episode of the 3rd Season outside the finale. Great reaction guys, super pumped!
Regarding the Legend of Korra, I really hope you take a little break after this show. Only because TLOK is a big change of tone, even if it's set in the same universe. People that watched expecting ATLA 2.0 ended up hating the show. So you should calm down and then start Korra with an open mind. It's a pretty neat show, especially season 3.
There actually was a full moon in this episode, but I guess you guys missed it.
I always thought that with all of the themes and things happening in this episode, that this was the most grown-up the show got! I loved it!
this and fma brotherhood are definitely my favourite anime shows
In terms of killing I think our only real case is Aang killing the buzzard wasp which was as episode in which he seemed to be losing his way and even hen it may have just been knocked out. The characters always seem to have super-durability, fire seems to knock them back instead of seriously burning them (usually), earth doesn't seem to crush people and kill them etc. If we assume everyone who gets knocked off ships can swim then none of the main characters have killed anyone. Even in The Siege of The North part 2 when Aang took down multiple ships with the ocean spirit, it's possible they all survived and fled. When Zhao is killed the ocean spirit let's Aang go before killing him and I think that detail was important to the creators. It's implied that Monk Gyatso killed fire nation soldiers before being killed himself but that was a case of self defence with no other option and it's possible that the fire nation used a machine that killed their own troops along with monk Gyatso as we know they are often ruthless. It does feel like a stretch to have so much large scale fighting without any of our protagonists killing anyone but I do think it's possible that this principle of not killing has been adhered to by all our protagonists.
" Who was the real waterbender???
MEEE!!!! "
Gets me everytime!!!
"That is Aang's girl!"
Me, whispers: *Zutara forever*
Still Aang’s girl regardless
I love Katara. She's my favourite, and she's rules.
Katara can only blood bend during a full moon. In the episode, in the background you can see the full moon to foreshadow she can blood bend that night if she wanted to, which she ended up doing.
I didn't see the full moon when I first watched this episode, but my thought process when the bloodbending happened wasn't "Hey how is she bloodbending without a full moon?", it was "Hey she's bloodbending, it must be a full moon"
Unforgiveness is fertile soil for the root of bitterness, a root that can strangle your heart. Bitterness corrupts and destroys.
"She was protecting the last water tribe bender . "
" But who ? "
" THAT WAS ME ! BITCH ! "
I am so excited for you guys to watch the next episode, I think you guys will love it!
1. There was a full moon, even if you missed that would not that be the first assumption, especially since the scene is at night and it would be a story-breaking power otherwise ?
2. The firebenders are lucky it does not rain that often in the Fire Nation, otherwise like 10 waterbender could dismantle their nation.
3. Katara is a good example of how to avoid writing a Mary Sue, her kindness and responsibility make her more empathic and trusting, but that results in her being more unforgiving, when her vulnerability is taken advantage of. She is one really bad day away from becoming Harma.
I don't think her powers are strong enough to be a Mary Sue either, I think someone is only a Mary Sue if they seem so powerful or so perfect that we don't feel like anything will be a challenge to them.
i love the look on Eric's face when he sees Sokka in the tent.
Toph may not have gone with them but she heard some raiding of the south that night.
It was the fucking FULL MOON!!
TV Tropes strikes again!!
After the tent scene, Sokka is seen weaving a white flower (daisies...) necklace for Suki the next morning - symbolizing that there WAS in fact, a "de-flowering" that night. ;)
You know...FOR KIDS :D
Careful, dont channel too much of the critic. For they say if you do, you become the new one.
ObligedUniform Is that REALLY what they say, though? Hahaha :p
As someone whose fav character is Katara, this episode is just great
You guys have the best predictions.
Can i ask how some of y’all felt about Katara saying “You didn’t love her like I did” to Sokka? Because it really bothered me as a kid and idk what to make of it now a days
She was way out of line for saying something nasty like that. Kya was Sokka's mother too and he also had to deal with grief. Katara saying that he didn't love her and she loved her more is downright disgusting.
I feel like katara processed her mom death different cause her and her father saw the moms dead body
@@bemiatto67 - It wasn’t right for her to say it, but it makes sense that their mother’s death affected her more. She felt responsible because Kya lied to protect her, and she basically took her mother’s place in the tribe after she was gone. She also had to live with the memory of seeing the killer’s face and finding the body. Sokka forgave her because he knew it was coming from a place of extreme grief and misplaced guilt, and he knows how much Katara cares for him.
I think Katara and Sokka both know why she said it and that she doesn’t really believe it. Sokka doesn’t get defensive and Katara looks ashamed. We never see her apologize to him because there’s a mutual understanding.
It is implied that people have died in this show, but remember guys; because it's a kids show they can't show it. I guarantee if it was aimed for adults like us people would have died.
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And omg I forgot about Sokka's little tent hello 😂 and there was an innuendo too. The next morning when Sokka was wearing a lei around his neck, it's subtly implied that he got Laid. 😅
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But damn, this episode showed a truly dark side of Katara. We've always seen her as kind and loving, but this one showed her as the most dangerous water bender in the world right now. She knows four types of water bending: blood, swamp, northern and southern. But you can see where her mind is at when she's confronting Yan Ra and it's scary. To have her not take his life (not only going back to the kids show rating) shows that she realized she was loosing control. I don't know if I'm the only one who saw this but it's almost like Hama got in her head. Hama created blood bending as a form of revenge and used it to attack innocent people, but Yan Ra wasn't innocent. It's almost like Anakin with Palpatine. It was truly a test to see if Katara could become not only strong but respected as well.
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But these next few episodes are so incredible Blind Wave. Fun fact: when the four part finale was made, the Avatar creators wanted it to feel like a movie. So it will feel like one, but they also rented out a small theatre in Hollywood for the cast and crew. They also have the composer Jeremy Zuckerman an orchestra to conduct his music live too. 💗
Cool Easter egg: when Katara and Zuko pass by Sokka in the morning, he's playing with a lei. To signify him getting lei'd (get it? Laid?)
I love that this show didn’t just have her forgive the guy who killed her mom. They show that you don’t always have to forgive people and that you can’t always forgive and that that’s ok.
This is my favorite episode of the series the way katara looks at ang when she says I knew you wouldn't understand fucking chills just the look of resentment gets me every time
I agree with some other people when they say it's because of his pacifism, which is why she says that.
Top tier episode.
I've been waiting for this episode boy! The next few episodes get pretty epic
For the people bashing Aang because they think he's being a jerk and or they don't like Aang there is some truth behind what he said about forgiveness. There is a saying that goes "Forgive others not because they deserve to be forgiven but because you deserve peace." but and he was saying it's wrong to kill unless it is self defense which is a point many people seemed to either gloss over or miss entirely. Also there's a saying that "Holding into anger and bitterness towards an enemy is like drinking poison and expecting them to die." And there are a few exceptions but in general it's better to forgive. But that doesn't mean I think it's easy because it's not. particularly if some has done something so terrible or has hurt you repeatedly and doesn't show remorse. But if you let anger consume your daily life you will continue to be distrustful and in time it'll effect current relationships with family friends going into new relationships etc because you'll be suspicious of everyone's motive and they'll always have to prove they are on your side. While the enemy likely hasn't given you a second thought your anger towards them eats away at you constantly. While you are wide awake they have no trouble sleeping. "sometimes the best revenge really is living well." I can see both sides in this situation it was defiantly one of the more complex episodes and one of the most action packed.
Zuko is just a guide to Katara. Like Iroh has been his guide before and didn't interfere in his decisions, he had no right and no real reason to interfere. It's not just a matter of a kids show. It's more about the fact that he was doing this to gain Katara's trust and to help her overcome her past, like he once did. He's not in position to interfere, but to show her that he respects her own decision. And an interference would mean that her decision was wrong, when their journey is actually HER journey, something more personal than absolute "right VS wrong".
Imagine chilling in your tent thinking you're gonna reach some bases with your hot GF, and in walks Zuko asking about how your mother died
But I don't think that Zuko can kill as well, at least not while in control of his emotions. He was already worried about Azula not making that fall, so I think he wouldn't kill someone random just because the person deserve and the others can't do it.
man I just love this show thx you guys for the good time
Best line in the episode "Okay Guru Goody, Goody"
This is actually one of my favorite episodes!
I really appreciate how Blind Wave found a way to stand out among a RUclips world of reaction videos by adding commentary at the end of each episode (more so than just "reaction" like the FineBros.). It's interesting listening to the commentary sometimes. I hope they find other ways to create original content alongside the basic reaction formula.
there was death right on screen in this series at this point - Aang been killed in Ba Sing Se but he was revived after that incident