Comparing E2 E1 Sn2 Sn1 Reactions

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    Comparing E2 E1 Sn2 Sn1 Reactions
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  • @greysonbaranowsky5872
    @greysonbaranowsky5872 3 года назад +14

    I'm finding out this 10 yr/old upload was the greatest early birthday present i could've ever asked for

  • @kpcixqnx
    @kpcixqnx 9 лет назад +76


    For secondary substrates, E2 usually predominateds, because E2 is
    not sterically hindered, while SN2 can be affected by the steric hindrance
    When talking about the stereospecificity of cyclopentane , drawing the chair conformation will help you a lot,
    With the help of drawing, you can easily determine the stereospecificity of cyclopentan, and then know which one is the major product or the reactant just not react

  • @singWHILEpeopleCHEW
    @singWHILEpeopleCHEW 9 лет назад +34

    Actually - both are occurring is not 100% true. Sn2 is occurring less than E2 due to steric hindrance, blocking backside attack (which I'm surprised was not once mentioned in this video and is extremely important for Sn2 reactions). Therefore it's best to say, E2 occurs more than Sn2.

    • @safabe96
      @safabe96 9 лет назад +3

      Well isn't this a small world! Hey Eva, it's Michelle! And thanks, I was hoping someone would explain which is the major product.

    • @singWHILEpeopleCHEW
      @singWHILEpeopleCHEW 9 лет назад +1

      Woah! That is just awesome. Well I'm glad I helped!!

    • @everydaylifeisgood
      @everydaylifeisgood 9 лет назад +2

      Eva Gershovich well it is true that both occur so he is right but not in equal amounts is what you are referring to which makes sense. Thanks

    • @RakeshChopracyipf
      @RakeshChopracyipf 6 лет назад

      Eva Gershovich absolutely correct

  • @nightryder85
    @nightryder85 10 лет назад +24

    Great video. He explained this so much better than my organic professor.

  • @imasurfer2
    @imasurfer2 11 лет назад +3

    Repetition is the quickest way to memorize something. I used to hate it too then I realized the more he said things the more familiar I became with them.

  • @natchan1178
    @natchan1178 10 лет назад +6

    Thank you so much! You saved my life from my orgo exam :D

  • @Snenors4pres
    @Snenors4pres 7 лет назад +51

    I like the black background

  • @Lawtonianbabygirl8
    @Lawtonianbabygirl8 12 лет назад

    THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!!!! I LOVE YOU!!! Lol..I'm about to keep watching this and your other ones until they sink in!

  • @michals000
    @michals000 13 лет назад +1

    your videos have helped me soo much this acedemic year. I keep telling my boyfriend that I want to send this person (you) a big fat thank you card! you're awesome and you explain things exactly how they are without complicating things. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ITS PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO MAKE THIS A BETTER WORLD FOR EVERYONE :)

  • @sarahj6781
    @sarahj6781 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you! That really helped a lot! But to determine which reaction is going to take place, wouldn't it also be possible to change the temperature?

  • @stigybirdable
    @stigybirdable 13 лет назад +4

    I love this man, organic test tomorrow

  • @shaklarkspar4967
    @shaklarkspar4967 11 лет назад

    your videos are so helpful ! thank you

  • @nightstar1219
    @nightstar1219 13 лет назад

    Thanks I'm going to do great on these questions for the test

  • @ragazziita
    @ragazziita 10 лет назад +2

    I love it when I actually understand :)

  • @SissouwChan
    @SissouwChan 5 лет назад

    Very useful content, thanks!

  • @nsarkar80
    @nsarkar80 8 лет назад

    Thank you very much sir. The video was awesome.

  • @joanapaulasoliveira
    @joanapaulasoliveira 4 года назад

    Great class! Thanks! Even though you're going all the way up the hill! LOL

  • @urdouchbag
    @urdouchbag 13 лет назад

    you are a very dedicated teacher!

  • @dhooy7150
    @dhooy7150 10 лет назад +2

    Dane would you mind helping me understand the mechanism for a paper? I'm totally confused

  • @adrianus1christopher
    @adrianus1christopher 12 лет назад

    TWO THUMBS UP FOR YOU!! it's a really excellent tutorial video! thank you so much!! keep making videos like these! LOL. God bless you!

  • @chelseawilliams8493
    @chelseawilliams8493 7 лет назад +6

    CAN YOU PLEASE make a video on what will be considered a strong nucleophile or a strong base? My ochem teacher tried explaining it and it didn't really make any sense.

    • @TheARJ15
      @TheARJ15 7 лет назад +1

      The way my professor explained it was that typically the strong base or nucleophile will be negative in most cases.

  • @lidyaFACE
    @lidyaFACE 13 лет назад +6

    i have my orgo final tomorrow and you cleared up every confusion i had! thank you! btw, how would i know if something is a strong or weak nucleophile?

    • @vaibhavdua6198
      @vaibhavdua6198 11 месяцев назад

      i was gonna answer this , but then i saw this comment was 12 years ago xd, is organic coming in handing buddy?

  • @SuperRhodent
    @SuperRhodent 11 лет назад

    I love you! Thank you!

  • @dianalara5184
    @dianalara5184 11 лет назад

    Thank you so much!!!!

  • @kikkirow
    @kikkirow 10 лет назад +30

    "The beta makes it a little dirty." Hah! Love these videos, they are so helpful.

  • @eragon2121
    @eragon2121 7 лет назад +2

    I like the verb nab here. I feel organic chemists should adopt this terminology. ^^

  • @Lyradopon96
    @Lyradopon96 7 лет назад

    Thank you Sir!

  • @Ni5000
    @Ni5000 6 лет назад

    Thank you!

  • @wimalasenajayasinghe8557
    @wimalasenajayasinghe8557 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot. 😊😇

  • @urdouchbag
    @urdouchbag 13 лет назад

    thank you...
    lol...i didnt realize it was a complete separate video...

  • @RSumayOOO
    @RSumayOOO 11 лет назад

    Wow. Thank you

  • @mylobage
    @mylobage 8 лет назад +37

    What is the criteria to recognize a "strong" base or nucleophile? It seems people just know, which doesn't help me.

    • @johnmandrake8829
      @johnmandrake8829 8 лет назад +9

      its ability to abstract H is stronger, or ability to donate e-. It will be stronger if its partial charge allows for easier split so it gets the e- (i.e Na-OH FOR OH-, or Na-NH2 for NH2- [these anions can now act as nucleophiles and abstract H] ). You can tell if the partial charge is strong by the EN difference between the metal and non-metal

    • @virulentCravings69
      @virulentCravings69 7 лет назад +4

      to classify whether a molecule , lets call it molecule A , is a strong base vs strong nucleophile , you have to look at the substituent groups of molecule A . Nucleophilicity parallels basicity except when the said molecule A is sterically hindered , for example , in the case of -OC(CH3)3 , its a very strong base , but its a weak nucleophile because its too sterically hindered to act as a nucleophile , as such , it will ONLY act as a strong base in E2 (mostly) or E1 depending on how stable the carbocation on the target molecule is .

    • @cozy_king23
      @cozy_king23 6 лет назад +1

      a base is considered a strong base if the pKa of its conjugate acid is 15 or greater.

    • @Dreamscape195
      @Dreamscape195 5 лет назад

      @@virulentCravings69 This is probably going to sound like a REALLY stupid question, and I know you commented this two years ago... but maybe even if you don't answer, someone else will see it and be able to help. How do we know it's sterically hindered? Maybe that's part of what I'm just not understanding. Does having 3 CH3s just make it big enough to suddenly count as too... complicated? I was under the impression things made bad nucleophiles if they were tiny (like F-) but - OC(CH3)3 doesn't seem like something I'd call small since there's kind of a lot going on there. Is it just because the O- would be similar to an F- (regardless of what's attached) in that H wants to crowd it out? And actually that only applies in a protic solution, doesn't it? So that still means I don't understand well enough in aprotic solution - which is where nucleophalicity matters most OTL

  • @beautylover4328
    @beautylover4328 7 лет назад

    Praaaaaiiiise for this video. 🙏🏼

  • @amayanapyeer
    @amayanapyeer 4 месяца назад +1

    Wait pls, how come CH3O- is a stronger base than hydroxides??

  • @Masterofchaos91
    @Masterofchaos91 13 лет назад

    Nice explained :-) which program do u use?

  • @user-km6dt7cu2q
    @user-km6dt7cu2q 9 лет назад

    Nice Explanation

  • @LazeHeat
    @LazeHeat 8 лет назад

    great thanks so much

  • @ASSHOLELA
    @ASSHOLELA 13 лет назад

    hey which is faster E1 or E2 and what depends which is faster?

  • @09nabila
    @09nabila 12 лет назад +1

    lol, our pot?? ahaha, thanks man! you're awesome! so much sense! :D

  • @amcrasto
    @amcrasto 12 лет назад

    GREAT VIDEO

  • @liagiba10
    @liagiba10 13 лет назад

    THANK YOU!!!!

  • @Bardea
    @Bardea 11 лет назад

    major and minor product is jargon that is specifically used for products of elimination reactions (look up "Zaitsev's rules"). Assuming you mean the major and minor product with respect either the SN or E reaction, user Erik D above you has a good explanation.

  • @animalamor915
    @animalamor915 12 лет назад

    @jaffey2006 What is a good way to determine the difference between a good base and a good nucleophile? For instance, CH3O- is a good nucleophile but how did you know it was a stronger base?

  • @randyjama
    @randyjama 11 лет назад

    is it true that the same products are formed between SN1/SN2 (or E1/E2), with the only thing differeng between 1 vs 2 being the rxn mechanism itself?

  • @curtpiazza1688
    @curtpiazza1688 11 месяцев назад

    Yikeees! It's getting real interesting! 😮 😊

  • @honshoku
    @honshoku 11 лет назад +1

    Is there other ways or videos that teaches you when to use SN1 SN2 E1 or E2? I found some comments but I think it would be better if Sal makes one. ;D

  • @aussietro
    @aussietro 12 лет назад

    Does the DMF tert amine remove the hydrogen from the ethanol?

  • @dodokiwi7-we
    @dodokiwi7-we 8 лет назад

    thank you

  • @jamesmichaels6476
    @jamesmichaels6476 9 лет назад

    Doesn't an E2 occur more often than SN2 reactions due to steric hindrance occurring for an SN2 reaction?

  • @srishtikalra9916
    @srishtikalra9916 11 лет назад

    thank u.

  • @ByRecentDesign
    @ByRecentDesign 10 лет назад

    My notes say that E2 reactions must have a hydrogen that is anti-periplanar. Is there an exception in the case of cyclopentane? All my example drawings are of cyclohexanes or chiral alkanes.

  • @TheSashaLoves
    @TheSashaLoves 11 лет назад

    In an Aprotic solvent a strong nucleophile will be a strong base. A weak base would favor an SN1 mechanism.

  • @junior1984able
    @junior1984able 13 лет назад

    can any two atoms with pairing valence electrons combine to form a bond??

  • @triforcejj
    @triforcejj 10 лет назад

    Is the SN2 the major product since there is no heat in the environment?

  • @jonathanpatton6894
    @jonathanpatton6894 5 лет назад

    Can you be my chemistry professor? This video makes so much more sense than my class on the same topic.

  • @misskfontes
    @misskfontes 11 лет назад

    How do you know which is the major product and which is the minor product?

  • @halogrenadier
    @halogrenadier 13 лет назад

    @jordanhop2 DMF is a solvent, it only determines the protic-ness, and the difference between 2- and 1-series reaction

  • @NEETJEEADVANCEDCHEMISTERY
    @NEETJEEADVANCEDCHEMISTERY 7 лет назад

    need more details

  • @7777fresh
    @7777fresh 10 лет назад

    I thought while both produces may form, the E2 is the major product as an extremely strong base was used and it was a secondary C. However, it requires anti-periplanar geometry with the H, so wrong H extracted I think.

  • @KillingKunoichi
    @KillingKunoichi 9 лет назад +3

    But is there a major product and a minor product..?? :

  • @TaklaDuck
    @TaklaDuck 8 лет назад

    awesome

  • @tanmay______
    @tanmay______ 3 года назад +1

    It’s worth mentioning that for E2 to occur, the beta Hydrogen should be Anti to the leaving group. ( imagine both of them leaving smoothly in opposite directions) this won’t be the case if they’re on the same side of the ring in which case the reaction will be sterically highly unfavourable.

  • @Spandex08
    @Spandex08 10 лет назад +8

    in what program is he drawing

  • @jenniferturner4784
    @jenniferturner4784 10 лет назад

    I love your videos, but I can't really use these as much because you don't involve the pka's. If you do another one you should really involve those for those of us who have professors that want us to learn the reactions strictly through pka's. Keep up the awesome videos though, they are extremely helpful!

  • @patricksutter7451
    @patricksutter7451 10 лет назад +7

    The E2 elimination reaction needs to use an anti-periplanar hydrogen, so the wrong hydrogen is being used in this reaction.

    • @03raq
      @03raq 5 лет назад

      which one would be the right hydrogen?

  • @dylanaljovic4901
    @dylanaljovic4901 5 лет назад

    Why is the methoxide ion a strong base and a strong nucleophile?

  • @marcobarco
    @marcobarco 11 лет назад

    Is it possible/likely for the CH3O-group to take away the hydrogen atom (proton) attached to the alpha-carbon?
    If possible, what would the final result be?
    Thank you for making a first time chemistry student with no experience into the top student in class! :)

  • @GenericYoutubeNameOk
    @GenericYoutubeNameOk 11 лет назад

    Do all E2 reactions form shoes?

  • @user13947
    @user13947 11 лет назад

    Aarggg trick question lol. Thank u!!!!!!!

  • @rachaelbradley4552
    @rachaelbradley4552 4 года назад +2

    Am I crazy? Given my understanding, this reaction wouldn't create a stereocenter on that alpha carbon. aren't the two carbons in the pentane equivalent? help me

    • @yourface13able
      @yourface13able 4 года назад +1

      If you count the carbons chained on each side of the alpha, then you'll see that there are different amounts of carbon on each chain, 3 on the right and 2 on the left. Another way to look at it since its CYCLOpentane is if you start counting carbons on each side of the chiral carbon, you will meet on the other side with different amounts of carbins on each side

    • @RonPaul42069
      @RonPaul42069 Год назад

      @@yourface13able That's not true. There are four carbons on either side of the "chiral" carbon. It's not chiral.

  • @TortillaBill
    @TortillaBill 5 лет назад +3

    does he just know everything and that's how he can do all these videos?

  • @dyepribudoy
    @dyepribudoy 12 лет назад +4

    "The beta makes it a little dirty" lol.

  • @19shaggy88
    @19shaggy88 13 лет назад +1

    i wonder how man of the 19k views would have failed their test if not for you

  • @AnthonyVoutas
    @AnthonyVoutas 13 лет назад

    @urdouchbag check out his previous video on the difference: It's called Nucleophilicity vs. Basicity. (Sorry, for some reason RUclips isn't letting me post the link)

  • @zxqwerxz
    @zxqwerxz 11 лет назад

    The only reaction that would produce a racemic mixture is an Sn1 reaction due to the carbocation that is formed in the transition state.

  • @W00t57
    @W00t57 12 лет назад

    I Like your pictorial view of SN2, SN1... But they seem very jumbled and disorganized. Still great video

  • @ashleighmarie14
    @ashleighmarie14 11 лет назад

    Because both the Sn2 and E2 reactions occur, does that mean that it is a racemic mixture?

  • @D_kiki999
    @D_kiki999 5 лет назад +3

    i like your handwriting

  • @richardkim738
    @richardkim738 9 лет назад

    The major product would be the Elimination reaction right?
    Also, how can you differentiate between E1 and E2 when you have the Alpha carbon in secondary instead of primary or tertiary?

    • @glittershxck
      @glittershxck 8 лет назад

      +richard kim
      For 2° carbons:
      SN2 when the pKa of the conjugate acid is less than 11.
      E2 when the pKa of the conjugate acid is greater than 11.
      SN1/E1 mix if you have a poor nucleophile with polar protic solvent.

    • @RameshSharma-cw7bw
      @RameshSharma-cw7bw 8 лет назад +1

      +Brittney Ciesa
      For 2 degree carbons:
      SN1/ E1 mix if poor nucleophile with a protic solvent.
      E1 when sterric hindrance by ring is present with above condition
      E1 when heat is given or temperature is high.
      E1 when nucleophile/ base is bulky
      SN2/ E2 mix if strong base/ strong nuleophile and aprotic solvent (but generally SN2 is preferred over E2 if all other factors are same)
      E2 when sterric hindrance by ring is present with above condition.
      E2 when strong base/nucleophile is bulky
      E2 when temperature is high

    • @aarongonzalez7251
      @aarongonzalez7251 8 лет назад

      Thanks Ramesh, very helpful.

  • @imasurfer2
    @imasurfer2 11 лет назад

    Wait, that -OCH3 group is pretty big, how would it do a 180 degree attack on the pentane ring?

  • @degiealauig3150
    @degiealauig3150 5 лет назад

    Why is methoxide described as "strong nucleophile" for Sn2, and "strong base" for E2?

  • @jeremiahexpensive5616
    @jeremiahexpensive5616 5 лет назад

    Why is d methaonic ion a strong nuclophile

  • @sharmaa.k.9256
    @sharmaa.k.9256 6 лет назад

    Good

  • @urdouchbag
    @urdouchbag 13 лет назад

    i may sound silly...but..what is a concrete difference between an nucleophile and a base....?

  • @junior1984able
    @junior1984able 13 лет назад

    bromide has one extra valence electron on its own ; right??

  • @sahilj03
    @sahilj03 9 лет назад

    Which is more likely to happen in this example, e2 or sn2 ??

    • @dragonkdd
      @dragonkdd 8 лет назад +1

      +Sahil Jain Depends on many things, one of them is temperature: if the temperature is higher, E2 would be favored.

    • @RameshSharma-cw7bw
      @RameshSharma-cw7bw 8 лет назад +1

      +Sahil Jain E2 will be favoured, no need to demand for more information like heat or temperature. There is a lot of sterric hindrance due to the ring and in SN2 reaction, attacking group has to come very close to the carbon atom to donate its electron pair. And, sterric hindrance does not allow the attacking group to come close. So, it simply performs E2.

  • @ujjwalsharma7250
    @ujjwalsharma7250 6 лет назад

    Nice

  • @ruuchan5021
    @ruuchan5021 11 лет назад +1

    "The ß makes it a little dirty," LOL
    But really this was very helpful, thank you for the video. :)

  • @Liquoricilicious
    @Liquoricilicious 9 лет назад +18

    Khan academy teaching 360.000 people to draw curved arrows in the wrong way ...

    • @sarmadpak10
      @sarmadpak10 9 лет назад

      Lol

    • @vitoat123
      @vitoat123 8 лет назад

      +Liquoricilicious 360,000. *

    • @Liquoricilicious
      @Liquoricilicious 8 лет назад +2

      I'm not living in the UK/US ... we use a period where I live. :p

    • @tubewoodycool
      @tubewoodycool 8 лет назад

      +Vito Ferrara that's a comma. What you wrote is 360 people

    • @tiff2794
      @tiff2794 7 лет назад

      Khan's drawing it the correct way though, the arrow head faces the hydrogen and the stem comes from the electron?

  • @dudepal187
    @dudepal187 11 лет назад

    The oxygen is negatively charged and therefore attracted to the anti-bonding (+) orbital on the alpha carbon. The whole molecule is not doing the attack, just the oxygen atom. It would also need the right trajectory to cause an SN2 reaction.

  • @AC-qo8oq
    @AC-qo8oq 6 лет назад

    More examples

  • @user-ku1et9ox3j
    @user-ku1et9ox3j 9 лет назад +4

    12:25 the circled E2 reaction looks like a shoe xD

  • @rt6490
    @rt6490 9 лет назад

    out of sn2 and e2 which would be the major product?

    • @ss-sv4vj
      @ss-sv4vj 7 лет назад

      frigging awesome they are reactions not products...

    • @proy8613
      @proy8613 7 лет назад

      frigging awesome

    • @swegattyswooty9307
      @swegattyswooty9307 6 лет назад

      Too late to answer..
      But it's actually ( mostly )
      The zaitseff product would be major ..
      But if the base is more bulky then Hoffman would be major ....

  • @FifaTipzHD
    @FifaTipzHD 12 лет назад

    Using CH3O- is not really a good example if you want to show an Sn2 because it is such a strong base. An Sn2 would occur, but in such a small quantity, that you wouldn't show it in the mechanism. This favors E2 reaction. The carbon is 2 degrees, the nucleophile is good and strong (not bulky as well) All of these point towards an E2 reaction rather than both. Still love the videos Khan and you're the reason I'm doing well in O-Chem :)

  • @ramanandsinghchemistry
    @ramanandsinghchemistry 8 лет назад +2

    E2 will be dominated in the reaction ..because for sn2 strong nucleophile and weak base like I- is required

    • @RameshSharma-cw7bw
      @RameshSharma-cw7bw 8 лет назад +1

      +ramanand singh the answer is correct but reason is wrong. E2 will be favored because of sterric hindrance due to the ring.

  • @TheDJPuertORico
    @TheDJPuertORico 12 лет назад

    This is not correct. To decide whether a SN2 or elimination reaction happens we just need more information... We need to know the temperature for example, because there is a strong correlation between elimination and higher temperature... Also solution effects will occur and we need to know the concentration of each reactant.. If the reaction occurs, for example, at a temperature of 150 K, maybe the substitution would be preffered.From this point of view it is quite correct to say, both occure..

  • @hahyoumakemelaugh
    @hahyoumakemelaugh 11 лет назад

    If only my professor could be as clear as you, I wouldn't be here

  • @erikd4690
    @erikd4690 11 лет назад

    E2 almost always beats SN2 as far as producing the major product when E2 and SN2 occur together. The stronger the base, the more elimination is favored, so the E2 product is the major product by a long way in this case.

  • @mas1568
    @mas1568 6 лет назад

    But E2 prefers polar protic solvents right??

  • @oneofsilverblood
    @oneofsilverblood 10 лет назад

    Does cyclopentane contribute to steric hindrance? I assumed because it was a big bulky group, E2 would be favored.