My Forefront’s are like putting clouds on my feet to wear. They are SO damn comfortable!! It’ll be a little bit before I need a resole. But, I know JKs crew does it right every time.
Jins - - What I meant s (in so many words) was that these boots were REALLY well made. Darn near had to destroy the uppers to pull and cut away the soles.
*I wonder why the soles are not 360 degree stitched. They're stitched around the toe area to about halfway. I did see that the midsole was stitched halfway from the heel area.* *Why is the midsole and Vibram soles halfway stitched? I guess they're holding each other on. But that Vibram sole, I'd be concerned about the heel separating at some point, but not after a very long time since contact cement is very strong. I'm not throwing hate. I'm just trying to understand, and I'm learning more about the process 😅! Great video and amazing fix for the boots! I love these videos!*
At a certain point most soles become to thick for the awl to make it all the way through. We do stitch the heel around and then the welt of the sole, meaning we do have 360º of stitching around the whole boot.
Any idea why my boots are not done from you guys yet? It’s been long enough of a wait. Also tell me why my exact boot, size and color were in stock on the website yet I’m still waiting?
Sorry to hear that you've been waiting, i don't have any way to see your order number from here but please email us at general@jkboots.com or shoot us a call and leave a message at (509) 487-0154 and we'll get back to you!
This is an example of why stitching through a 4014 sole makes no sense. Stitch through the midsole only, then glue the 4014. Resole requires no stitch work. 👍
*Yea I hardly ever see those Cristy soles get stitched on. I heard in cobbler videos that they're too difficult to stitch on or something like that? I too only have seen them glued on. What is the reason why places usually don't stitch them on? I'm trying to find out 😅 I do agree with you.*
@@JinsKookieJams it absolutely answers the question. The designed purpose of a Christy sole is to have it installed with glue alone, no stitching, so that when the need to be replaced (soft=often) it only requires a cobbler to pull off the old one and glue on the new one. Do you not understand this?
@@absolute.freedom *I'm learning a lot from various channels and videos. I already knew the Cristy was meant to be glued. I didn't know however, they aren't meant to be stitched. I'm guessing the density isn't good for the stitcher (and Vibrams work better since they are stiffer). I remember seeing a cobbler video where they used these soles. In the comments, the cobbler replies to someone saying how stitching the Cristy wouldn't be good for their machine. So it's why I asked. I'm sure other people didn't know they weren't meant to be stitched. Well anyway good to know because I never knew. I hope you understand that I didn't know. I see how it makes it easier to remove! I've noticed that in a lot of cobbler videos how easily they yank them off. They seem like a comfortable sole (I haven't tried yet.).*
*Actually if you look closely, that welt is a part of the boots. The leather at the end is flared out to be stitched on. This is a stitchdown construction. The stitchdown construction is a variation of the Goodyear Welted Construction method. But you might have known that already 😅* *As for the stitches themselves, yes it could be the welt was getting too worn. I did look closely and the edge was getting mighty close to the stitches. So it's good the customer sent them in just in time! Or the customer suggested they wanted one row instead. Good eye!*
@JinsKookieJams I actually belt sanded down the front of my forefronts because I didn't like how it looked. So when I get my resole I'll probably end up with one stitch too
I am impressed that you guys actually pull out the old stitching. I know that it's what you are supposed to do but I don't think the other PNW brands do that. Bravo
Thank you! We do it when its required, in this case the stitching was already pulling out from the teardown. Generally on a resole with a full leather midsole (something like a superduty) the treads will stay. All pulling them out will do is create open holes for air and debris to weaken the seams 👍
Yes, to do this for new boots create a custom O.T model, then make the height 6" and sole a honey 👍 If you are doing this for a resole or rebuild then its the same process just pick your boot and then what sole you want to get!
My Forefront’s are like putting clouds on my feet to wear. They are SO damn comfortable!! It’ll be a little bit before I need a resole. But, I know JKs crew does it right every time.
*That's great! How long was the break in period? I know it varies for people. I'm curious how long it took for you.*
Really shows what these new boots look like with use.
It was really cool to see the resoling process instead of the rebuild process.
Looks like I'll be having my custom forefronts for a long time when I finally get them.
Yes sir! Should be able to get a good few resoles out of them with proper care, then it will be time to rebuild 🤘
I can't wait until my bison forefront get to me in the next 60 days or so
Artists at work!!!
Dang whoever made these boots sure didn't mean for them to be worked on!!😄
*What do you mean? Not hating. I'm learning more things, so I'm confused by your comment 😅*
Jins - - What I meant s (in so many words) was that these boots were REALLY well made. Darn near had to destroy the uppers to pull and cut away the soles.
*I wonder why the soles are not 360 degree stitched. They're stitched around the toe area to about halfway. I did see that the midsole was stitched halfway from the heel area.*
*Why is the midsole and Vibram soles halfway stitched? I guess they're holding each other on. But that Vibram sole, I'd be concerned about the heel separating at some point, but not after a very long time since contact cement is very strong. I'm not throwing hate. I'm just trying to understand, and I'm learning more about the process 😅! Great video and amazing fix for the boots! I love these videos!*
At a certain point most soles become to thick for the awl to make it all the way through. We do stitch the heel around and then the welt of the sole, meaning we do have 360º of stitching around the whole boot.
@@jkbootsusa *Thank you so much for the reply! Makes sense! Are the Cristy soles squishy and comfortable? I've been wondering about them.*
@@JinsKookieJams Yes the soles are very comfortable on hard surfaces.
Any idea why my boots are not done from you guys yet? It’s been long enough of a wait. Also tell me why my exact boot, size and color were in stock on the website yet I’m still waiting?
*How long have you been waiting?*
Sorry to hear that you've been waiting, i don't have any way to see your order number from here but please email us at general@jkboots.com or shoot us a call and leave a message at (509) 487-0154 and we'll get back to you!
This is an example of why stitching through a 4014 sole makes no sense. Stitch through the midsole only, then glue the 4014. Resole requires no stitch work. 👍
*Yea I hardly ever see those Cristy soles get stitched on. I heard in cobbler videos that they're too difficult to stitch on or something like that? I too only have seen them glued on. What is the reason why places usually don't stitch them on? I'm trying to find out 😅 I do agree with you.*
@@JinsKookieJams bc it defeats the purpose of the sole/resole 👍
@@absolute.freedom *Ok, but that doesn't answer about the Cristy sole at all. Is it because the sole is too soft or hard to be stitched 😅?*
@@JinsKookieJams it absolutely answers the question. The designed purpose of a Christy sole is to have it installed with glue alone, no stitching, so that when the need to be replaced (soft=often) it only requires a cobbler to pull off the old one and glue on the new one. Do you not understand this?
@@absolute.freedom *I'm learning a lot from various channels and videos. I already knew the Cristy was meant to be glued. I didn't know however, they aren't meant to be stitched. I'm guessing the density isn't good for the stitcher (and Vibrams work better since they are stiffer). I remember seeing a cobbler video where they used these soles. In the comments, the cobbler replies to someone saying how stitching the Cristy wouldn't be good for their machine. So it's why I asked. I'm sure other people didn't know they weren't meant to be stitched. Well anyway good to know because I never knew. I hope you understand that I didn't know. I see how it makes it easier to remove! I've noticed that in a lot of cobbler videos how easily they yank them off. They seem like a comfortable sole (I haven't tried yet.).*
So only one row with the rapid E on a resole? Is that because the welt is a bit more worn and no room for two rows?
*Actually if you look closely, that welt is a part of the boots. The leather at the end is flared out to be stitched on. This is a stitchdown construction. The stitchdown construction is a variation of the Goodyear Welted Construction method. But you might have known that already 😅*
*As for the stitches themselves, yes it could be the welt was getting too worn. I did look closely and the edge was getting mighty close to the stitches. So it's good the customer sent them in just in time! Or the customer suggested they wanted one row instead. Good eye!*
Yes, if the welt is to damaged or to small to get 2 clean rows we will go with 1 row!
@JinsKookieJams I actually belt sanded down the front of my forefronts because I didn't like how it looked. So when I get my resole I'll probably end up with one stitch too
Nice Patina 👍🏾
I am impressed that you guys actually pull out the old stitching. I know that it's what you are supposed to do but I don't think the other PNW brands do that. Bravo
Thank you! We do it when its required, in this case the stitching was already pulling out from the teardown. Generally on a resole with a full leather midsole (something like a superduty) the treads will stay. All pulling them out will do is create open holes for air and debris to weaken the seams 👍
@@jkbootsusa thanks for explaining
Would you guys be able to put a honey sole on the forefronts?
Yes, to do this for new boots create a custom O.T model, then make the height 6" and sole a honey 👍 If you are doing this for a resole or rebuild then its the same process just pick your boot and then what sole you want to get!