This Ai Just Ended Millions of Careers (UDIO and Suno Ai)
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2024
- This Ai Just Ended Millions of Careers (UDIO and Suno Ai)
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That Dave Ramsey song is ACTUALLY fire! 🔥 I cannot believe how accurate that is!
SERIOUSLY!
Yeah for people that sleeps with their cousins.
@@AndreiJikh imma need that full Dave Ramsey song. I’m just saying.
@@beffjezos7701 roll tide
I’m a platinum selling engineer and a music editor on a 2x time Emmy winning show. This is kind of startling. But we’ve known it’s coming and I’ve been learning how to “control the machine”
is there a special meaning to "control the machine," or does it just mean you're surrendered to using it (no judgement)
AI already schedules my medical appointments. Now restaurants are having them take orders at drive throughs.
If a restaurant is taking orders it’s not AI . What is AI ? It is Artificial Intelligence, so mostly it’s used for decision making based on probability. So how is taking restaurant order AI ? Is it predicting what kind of food you like based on your history. In that case it’s just a lame use
Its going to be diagnosing you as well pretty soon
I got my food delivered by a robot yesterday at Anna Maria oyster bar.
Yep, those that have an IQ below 80 will be jobless. On the other hand, those same people will not need jobs because: you pay for groceries, go home and access your digital locker, advertisers will have bids in as offers for your DATA, and pay you more than you spent buying the groceries in the first place. DATA is the new Gold.
Physical atrophy is gonna be the future pandemic
I think the problem is humanity needs to start to look within because we are quickly realizing what true value is. It's not out there, it's within. 🙏
and learn how to grow potatos and truly appreciate that process again
@@sanderschat as a belarusian its nothing new, potatoes are the meaning of our life.
@@patrickbecker6725 hear hear!
Twenty-five years ago we were having the same conversation about printers and artists that could lose their jobs to home computer desktop publishing. How did we ever survive?!
Unfortunately, in today's society, as soon as you post something on the internet, it no longer belongs to you. And I don't know how we will ever truly combat this.
Why would you want to combat that?
Everything we create should be like that.
We create things for the benefit of others, the only reason for intellectual property and/or copyright, is for financial reasons and hopefully that will change one day.
Never put anything on internet if you don’t want to be copied
That didn't start with the internet. Magazines printed photos of people, and millions of people had those photos to do whatever they wanted with. Songs were on the radio, and people recorded them onto cassette tapes. Etc.
If you make something, you have two options: keep it to yourself, and no one else can use it; or share it with other people, and accept that those other people can now use it. Trying to share it with others, but also tell them "you can hear this, but you're not allowed to learn from it or be inspired by it in any way", is ridiculous.
That's a flaw in that Microsoft has to fix I can think of multiple ways to fix it
Upload it to your own site and share a link to your content via YOUR website.
First nobody cared that software engineers were losing jobs to Ai and now they do because it’s coming for theirs 😂
To be fair they are the ones who created AI 😂
At this point as a 3d artist I am enjoying the shitstorm that is coming for all other fields , people were saying get a real job instead of designer career 😂
I haven't heard of any swe losing their job to ai
@@animal9470 not gonna say “hey we fired you because of ai” but they realized now they don’t need 100 people to do algorithms when ai can solve it quicker and they only need half the people to do the same job.
@@Turanic1 umm... idk, seems like AI is doing all kinds of arts way better than music. I mean, AI music is still nothing more than a fun toy, while in ats - it actually is already taking jobs from real artists... so idk why you're so gleeful about it XD
Been in the industry 30 years, my last 4-5 have been lifechanging in regards to monetizing my craft finally. Self made success story and right now sitting on a catalog worth many M's... . .. A few years ago when AIVA and ecrette and similar launched, I said "give it two years, this doesn't create vocals yet, or drops, builders, sweeps, gapfills, falls, intro/outros, and it's still very synthetic". It happened pretty much on que, and no I didn't think it would be THIS good. My whole crew and I are contemplating our next moves re selling the catalog vs competing and innovating and continuing to feed the monster/dsp's.
I feel like we are in the novelty stage, like with chatgpt, once everyone and their mom uses suno or udio, there will be a big return to our classics, 80/90's remixes, covers, and live acts. I also think the DSPs/platforms will all soon have to create a whole separate system for AI, maybe an on/off button for synthetic content as everything is going to get flooded with music 10x-100x more now. I also notice it's mostly the meme/funny songs going viral, which never have longevity, a human soul is still needed for other humans to relate to and fall in love/interest with.
agreed, I wish there was something that allows listeners to know when AI was used when making a song/art work (art I'm better at detecting) because it feels deceptive, I listen to music/look at art/read writing to relate to other humans with lived, human experiences that come through their artwork. I don't listen to music only when it's impressive or 'good', you have to feel something on the other end.
Some of it sounds like generic pop. If the radio were to simply push the song like some artists they do now, it could possibly chart and the public wouldn't really know or care for that matter.
Billions of people relate to and binge listen songs that barely have any substance anyway
Artists like you name em.. drake, iggy, lil wayne. Theyre just catchy
Real music is going to be just live “an experience” from human to human, the artificial created music is external, synthetic, yes it could be entertainment, but not a real experience.
Indeed. Once the initial "wow" of AI generated images faded I now get 100% uninterested as soon as I see an AI generated image, no matter how "cool" it is.
The same will probably happen to music.
As a music producer for the past 15 years my blood, sweat, tears and loads of my time has gone into perfecting the craft.. Its just sad that its all getting reduced to a click of a mouse with no time invested in the skill set.. this sucks big time... I feel this is deeply wrong
im in a similar position mate, i devoted my entire life to music for nothing.
The Shoulders of Giants.
I wouldn't worry. I use it to help my various crafts. It has massive limitations. All of them. I use Chat a lot for programming and AU in Photoshop for visual projects. AI needs you to be worth anything. It can definitely speed up our work.
This is the complete wrong way of thinking about this whole AI situation. You have to adapt and use AI to help yourself. Make songs faster, have more freedom. The next big skill to make money is, to know how AI can be used and integrated in your work.
ahahaha
"Never forget that the human race with technology is just like an alcoholic with a barrel of wine."
Yes, by the time the alcoholic finishes the barrel, they’re dead. Oops 😬
Hands down the most entertaining video you've ever done! The Music! The Magic! 🤣🤣🤣
haha thanks!
Beans and Dreams! That song was legit.
5:45 the AI did good, I can imagine music for commercials etc. Scary
Do you have a link to it?
It BREAKS EVERY SINGLE COPYRIGHT LAW THERE IS. BAN IT!
Tf? No it doesn't
It must be banned ASAP.
AI is coming for everyone. Do you think it will take over youtubers?
Probably some day but I don't think we're quite there yet
@@AndreiJikh Yeah, I think that creativity has no borders and can’t just be replaced by an algorithm. But if the world brings us new creators, hope there will be new AI viewers too! 😄
It already is
@@justinmasters220 Wait, so these “AI looking channels” aren’t actual real people? 😮
@@getstuffexplained I saw video about how you can create an AI version of yourself and use it to create videos.
Humanity is screwed. Good luck everyone
Not really. In the end its just capitalism as we know it that is screwed.
No money without jobs. No selling without money. 🤔
When AI does everything the current system is bscly. finished.
that was always the case.
AI is actually the first technology that may actually change that premisse.
God they need to be paying all the people they stole that data from
Or to enter a new age where Intelectual Property becomes Public while new creations drive prices down fast and we all benefit.
@@alexmunoz2032 Definitely not a black-and-white issue. And playing with the tools are a lot of fun. Some of the tools I use for work like magic mask in resolve. The thing is though the people that are running in these corporations. "To the most part or after only money". And other corporations want to save money. Why pay a artist to make a creation when there is a different artist that made a similar creation on a different project that a model has been trained with. Imagine you spend a bunch of time emotional and creative energy and then you see something very very similar that someone says they made with a prompt. They claim it as theirs... Technology and innovation in my opinion is a big part of what us humans are all about. I just think it's important to give credit where it's due.
Thank you for bringing the latest to light! Appreciate you always! (:
You are so welcome!
Andrei, every time I watch your videos, I think, "This one is my favorite." Thank you for everything you do behind the scenes that we may never know about to bring us this content and for making what will in time be considered prophetic, palatable.
Aww thank you! I appreciate it, I have a lot of fun making my videos, but I doubt they'll ever be considered prophetic in any way, thanks again!
What’s really amazing is I was literally about to write what you wrote, I have come to the conclusion that Andrei is in a class by himself his content creation is incredibly sticky I always have to watch every second. Definitely exceptional
Totally agree with this!
Keep it up Andrei you are legendary :)
Great Magic show and editing job.
That is like with a photograher where everyone now has a smartphone that can do quite good photos.
Musicians can forget about a recording career. They better get good at live performances covering AI songs.
Glad you made a video like this. I didnt know this one existed and will be cool to hop on and give it a try. Thanks
Hope you enjoy it!
5:38 Beans and dreams T_T stop.... its time to STOP! 😂
Yep. Literally no need for musicians now from a commercial standpoint. Wow our lives are so much better now 🤣
That Edit was an absolute banger. Great Content
My iPhone has been making shorts from my travels for the past few years now.
Wassup Adre Bitcoin and AI 💪🏽💯
Love your content
thanks!
You’re awesome,Andre!
I'd be interested to see how the "sampling" aspect plays out in courts. I'd say it's harder to prove copyright infringement in music because of musical structures. Like Ed Sheeran just won a major lawsuit last year about this. He was accused of stealing chord progression from Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get it On" when creating "Thinking Out Loud." The court ultimately decided that "we all benefit from artists being free to create and build on what came before them...[otherwise] creativity will be stifled for fear of being sued."
We have a musical scale and harmonies that flow together. Literally billions of people have participated in the creation of music since the dawn of time. I don't like the idea of artists being forced to compete with AI capabilities. But at the end of the day, a big part of what makes music a truly human experience is the emotion and passion behind the notes. Until AI can replicate human emotions, artists and musicians will still have a place.
I agree, it'll be really interesting to see the cases play out worldwide about how sampling will be treated. Looks like Europe took a pretty hard stance against it
that's interesting.
The P-Zombie thought experiment shows that an AI which behaves like it has emotions is indistinguishable from an AI that does have emotions. In that regard, some of the biggest LLMs (especially prior to RLHF fine-tuning) may already be considered to have emotions.
That said... human artists and musicians will always have a place even after that, because art is not a rival good. An AI being good at music doesn't stop humans from still making music. It's the same way that Beyonce and Ed Sheeran being successful, popular, and talented doesn't stop indie artists from making music, and it doesn't stop anyone else from singing to themselves in the car. Others making art well doesn't stop anyone else from continuing to make art, too; that's true whether "others" are humans or AIs.
dude.. the card trick and intro song combo was amazing 🔥
Human created something and something created something. End of humanity
Real
Sorry I'm going back and work on The classic Mercury I have.
Good luck with this
Your videos stand out Andre. You are one of a kind.
your commitment to that cut was impressive Andrei. Hats off to you sir
Right. That five second intro cost you six hours of work? Worth it! It was fire.
This is a really nuanced take with a ton of information, thanks man!
ahah we're all screwed
Last one standing from the crew.
I'm not a musician but this will DEFINITELY trigger tons of lawsuits. If the AI was trained on (and comes up with derivative work) there will be serious questions of copyright violations. A lot of major music artists are sued every year from other musical artists saying their work was partially copied and used in the new song. See: Gap Band/Trinidad James/more vs. Mark Ronson (Uptown Funk), Queen & David Bowie vs. Vanilla Ice (Ice Ice Baby) Marvin Gaye and Funkadelic vs. Robin Thicke & Pharrel Williams (Blurred Lines), etc. Some aren't successful in court, but some are. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out but I'd be surprised if there weren't at least a flurry of lawsuits early on, similar to how Napster got hammered for copyright violations and went bankrupt.
The argument would be that humans are trained by listening to other songs as well and therefore so long as the created product is not a blatant rip off of another artist then it is fair game.
@@Gokutrump This argument has been used in actual cases of musical copyright and many have lost. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, nor am I saying that AI training is the same thing as "sampling" or "inspired by" type songs, but that's what has been the precedent. If you Google "rip off songs" you'll see many cases of musical artists who were "inspired by" another song losing a case and having to give up some royalties on their new creation because a court found it derivative of the original work. We don't know how the law will apply to AI usage at this point, but regardless, I don't think the record labels will allow it to happen without trying to get a piece of the pie if they can, justified or not.
Humans appears to be blocked by papers and documents. AI is limitless, will flood the world with creations.
I wouldn't wonder if AI is actually better in avoiding sich similarities. Cause it can check the output by the entire input afterwards.
Give this man I like bruh he deserves it. 0:54
wow cant wait to see the tesla one!
Among your better videos - thoughtful, researched, entertaining. Hmm, hair combed forward - a situation? The questions posed by legislation or the lack of is the crux of the problem among so many haunting us. AI, what a field to challenge the accepted world. The robot insert, brief though it was, so wise, so wise. Thank you.
Yeah what’s going on with the hair? 😂 Must not have had time to style it. This is one busy man.
Haha love the creativity and editing! And some good info!👍
Just live long enough and you'll see it all! Wow!👀👀
Already talks of AI being about to eventually stop and even reverse aging- so living long enough shouldn't be a problem ;)
Job displacement happens all the time. 5-10 years ago companies paid hundreds of thousands of to web agencies to build websites. This time is over, replaced by website generators. Web developers had to adapt and I believe most did, musicians have to do the same.
Dude you're the best!
I can't decide if I'm excited or terrified about the impact of AI on the music industry.
We need the full version released
Amazing!
Beans And Dreams, I feel Dave would approve
That was soo cool!!!! Worth a thousand takes!
That card part was 🔥
I remember those records that were on tv for money. 😮
I keep forgetting your a magician 😭
Great vid. It must have taken your assistant forever to put it together!
I, for one, side with our new robotic overlords
Andrei what should I buy with my VTI?
Your freedom!
@@AndreiJikh thank you mi lord
Here!, I'm here, sorry just off work.
very interesting thank you
Genuine question Andre.
Do you have any investment in UDIO and Suno Ai and the other folks you know?
No I wish! I think those companies are private
I'll still be running my audio studio 🎙️
magical Andrei, you're amazing!
Wow, thank you!
That Dave Ramsey song is FANTASTIC 😂
Soulless AI music might come out better than those made by talentless creators, but people are not going to give up listening to real humans en masse, especially w/ the live aspect. Only thing people might do is generate some AI beat and try to hide it in their work, but I imagine it will be received just as well as people who try to pass off AI photos as their own art. And at the end of the day, art isn't even a zero sum game.
Oh yes, people want to connect with the artist. Music is about emotion first and foremost.
you're wrong, it's in it's infancy....extrapolate it even by a year. The best musicians will be the best prompters.
@@johnmiller9953 is still a long way off, AI is only capable of generating music, not creating or innovating, it generates music from other artists' music and creates variations of them, but only humans are capable of innovation, music is generic and let's say mediocre (I'm part of that group hahah) it won't pay as well as before, only those outside the curve, the many talented people who innovate will survive, the problem is that no one is born talented, they evolve to reach that level, I don't know what's next generations or even the current generation will want to invest their time and dedication to become great musicians, I think there will be little support for this.
@@Gutz-po9xf too long, lost interest after line one
I see this type of comment aging poorly unfortunately 😢
T-Pain has now been reduced to "TAI Pain".
Never mind finance and investing. That drop and magic trick was 🔥!! Must be that heat hitting us in Vegas! 😂
thanks haha
ok but why do i want the full version of that dave ramsey song
I can't believe how much better this music AI is from Suno last time I used Suno. I think I used Suno six months ago, maybe a year ago.
AI came up with the hyperbolic title of this video.
8m 45s - He doesn't believe his own click bait.
The comments are just as entertaining as the actual amazing content 👏🏽
Brilliant video Andrei 😂😂
Japan has the right idea, embrace new technology. The same way we embraced cars over horses.
AI would never make a video this good
As a part-time music composer & producer of over 10 years, I find this to be both amazing and scary. Definitely helps spur creativity and showcase my talents as a songwriter, and gets ideas flowing when working with artists, but if it ever gets refined enough to generate really good quality audio, music composers, instrumentalists, and producers will need to adapt big time.
It was inevitable and actually a really good thing. Making generic music, copy paste songs with minimal variations may lose its value and artists would be pushing their limits to create unique stuff as it’s used to be.
No seriously, I need the full version of beans and dreams now!
This is the future. Doing magic tricks while ai sings to you.
Your the best I love your videos
After about a week of messing around with Udio, I can say that it's very good at pinning down specific genres. It does have some trouble generating suitable outros for full-length songs though. Sometimes you'll have to have it generate 6-8 or more iterations to get something that fits the rest of the song.
Those songs were absolutely amazing lol
I do have to say it is pretty impressive how you can take idea's and put it to music in the stay you want
Maaaaan that beat and card trick combined SLAAAAPS!!!! 👏
🔥 I must agree!
Hehe I agree!
Yo your sunglass tan while talking about people losing their jobs is freaking hilarious!
I hope no one uses Ai to make rap songs of the news....
Sometimes you just can’t find the right song that’s royalty free for your videos without hours of search. This is a win in my book..
lol that intro trick & song was sick lol. Watched it a few times.
I hope platforms like this become regulated to the ground or made illegal.
No agreed upon standard just yet, I guess we'll see!
Yeah, why don't we just make everything illegal? Isn't the government already controlling us enough?
Hey @andrei Jikh, did you link the metal pasta song? It sounds like a banger haha
AI still hasn't made my pancreas work...
Omg the Dave Ramsey song is awesome!
My publishers are currently tracking and combating all of this. I receive updates every few months about AI and law implementation into my music royalties. I work with four publishers. 😂 I believe the only way to combat this as an artist is through your image. Really ask yourself: do you have a following? Are people waiting for your next track? If there is a demand for you or your band, then you will be fine in your creations because people will want to hear whatever it is you are putting out next. But if you have nothing, no demand, and you are just trying to win over fans starting from scratch, then you are in for a hell of a tough battle.
AI is currently being developed just for the sake of AI itself and humanity is reacting to this development, rather than creating it in a controlled manner for humanity like it should be...
Andrei, when you aren't bringing us magic, you are bringing us magic if you know what I mean. Love this video
Very interesting
Very!
All record music studio jobs could be harm but real artist performing live playing live intrument and singing will have even more value in the future just like real paint art
Its difficult to imagine successful legislation that would effectively regulate this industry. Pandoras box is wide open. Not just the ability to create your own music but the ability to run your own private app similar to udio/suno is right around the corner.
WOW!!!!
I have an active subscription with Suno, and I must say, the quality of music they produce are impressive. HOWEVER, after listening to several songs that I've generated, I realized that, although the music was really well done, it doesn't have the soul. The lack of being able to associate the song to an artist who is actually performing the song is missing. Imagine listening to a very nice country music, with a wonderful melody, wonderful lyrics, but you can't imagine the face of the artist performing the song. Its just not there... At best, artists can capitalize on this platform as a way to jumpstart their music production, by using AI to 'help' them lay the foundation of their next great song.
There are also many artists who do not show their faces. They produce music behind the scenes. The totality of their work and ideas have been sucked up into these machines for cheap redistribution (making money for the UDIO investors and none for the people who's work was appropriated for the training of the neural nets). Just because these people are faceless to the general public, do you think it is fair that they don't get to have their careers anymore?
@@arpaddanos9416 At this point, what I think doesn't matter anymore. The reality is, AI is already here, and there seems to be no sign of regulating its use, and no one is establishing any boundaries in terms of its rapid development as of this writing.
@@iPadChannel True. Do you think we should put up any boundaries or just let the venture capitalists run amuk with it?
@@arpaddanos9416 There are several groups around the world who are working on legislations to govern the ethical aspects of developing and using AI. But until then, this free-for-all buffet will continue.
I think this will impact more producers than actual performers
Just throw some water on it.